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>> and it was then up to the political process to say, "what do we do with the truth?" . steve: evening everyone, welcome to "the next revolution" i'm steve hilton, this is the home of positive populism. they are here to break down the top stories, also a special edition of "swamp watch." my exclusive interviews with two lead members of congress who reveal unbelievable details how the d.c. swamp really works. big tech on trial. don't miss my verdicts on the controversies facing google and facebook. i knew i'd get that wrong. it's a british thing. and the author of a shocking new study joins me, the anti-conservative bias in silicon valley. but first, here are some of the things that happened this week in our economy. evidence of a major shift from
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part-time work to full-time work. 2016, the final year of the obama economy saw the highest number of part-time jobs on record. last year the trump economy saw the highest number of full-time jobs on record. across the board wages are going up. millions of workers are getting thousands of dollars in bonuses. an extra week or more of pay for half the workers in america. none of this is an accident, it's the direct result of this administration's economic policies. in particular, deregulation and tax reform. last week we saw military get the resources they need. we got news of incredibly important effort to reform the civil service and cut back the permanent bureaucracy in washington. we saw signs that president trump's new tough policy on north korea may be paying off with real movement for the first time in years. but what did the elite focus on in the plunging dow on wall street. dueling russia memos in
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congress. the elites are letting americans down right now. here's how. when you see all this drama on wall street, just remember this, the financial markets are a casino. most of these financial elites are greedy fools who know nothing about creating a job or running a business, they don't have a clue what they're doing. they're just gambling with other people's money. whatever happen, they'll get richer. they make sure of that. now with technology taking over, algorithms that shift billions of dollars in a fraction of a second, the financial elite's idiocy is amplified. what a joke they are. the political elite in congress corrupt as hell as we'll see later in the show in the "swamp watch" segment is messing around with memos instead of getting work done that might help you. where is the immigration plan, where is the infrastructure
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plan? the state of our democracy is rotten because of them. and finally let's not let the white house off the hook. president has been badly served by top aides, right from the start. this lawyer, don mcghan, what a joke. he had the details of these domestic violence allegations a year ago! what about reince priebus? he was in charge when rob porter's security clearance was denied and now john kelly, yes, of course, american hero whom we all admire. he undermined his boss badly by claiming the president was uninformed on immigration and had been told by kelly to drop plans for a border wall. now this new mess. the white house should be leading the charge to stamp out domestic violence in our society. by all accounts kellyanne conway wants to do just that, but instead, they're on the defensive. president trump's white house team is too weak. we need more people in there who are real political
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professionals who understand deeply understand the ideas behind the populist uprising we saw in 2016 and who got the skills and intellect to put it in place a pro-worker policy agenda and radical assault on the washington swamp and the deep state permanent bureaucracy that for decades blocked the changes, you, the american people vote for that. is the next revolution we need. please tell me what you think. follow us -- now let's bring in our panel. fox news contributor, tomi lahren, host of the last week on earth comedian ben cleave and kara swisher. for those of who you don't know, a legend in the tech industry, we're talking a lot about technology tonight, and that is going to be a great chance for you to introduce yourself. >> thank you. steve: to our fox news audience. a lot to get in there. i want to cover a few of those
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things. tomi, i want to start with you. what do you make of this rile that's going on, stories about chaos in the white house, what's your take on it? >> anything new, steve? usually when things are going well for the trump administration, like you mentioned, jobs, unemployment, things of that nature, they have to find something else to focus ootherwise they focus on the positive gains being made. they're going to focus on the salacious stories, the average everyday american is sick and tired of hearing. this want to hear about the things that affect them day in and day out, immigration, they don't want to hear about russia anymore. we're tired of it. let's move on. steve: ben, do you think that there's any -- this week, i was watching, look at wall street stuff and the plunging dow and all the headlines. i know many of those people work in the financial sector. they don't know what they're doing. you're a comedian, i think you're the perfect person to ask about wall street. >> as a comedian probably the
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biggest expert the stock market you could ask for, i'm glad to be here. look, it's mad, i know i'm checking my mint and my money is dropping every month. i also do realize that while it is a gambler's world in the stock market and doesn't necessarily reflect our economy, our president seems to like taking credit for it when it climbs right up and goes mum on it when it goes down as though it's somebody else's fault. people even on this network blamed obama for the downturn in the last week, but trump gets credit for the upturn. has to be one way or the other on that. steve: my view is, as i said, it's so -- somebody said so irrelevant to the real world experience of people, and far fewer people who are actually invested in the stock market than the many people think. it really passes a lot of people by, and yet, the incredibly wealthy wall street people are obsessed with it. kara, what about -- i mean, look, i know that you come from
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the left. >> yes. steve: in terms of your political point of view. what -- do you think, are you okay with the democrats endlessly going on with russia and all of that? >> i was super enjoying fox before this with the monica lewinsky documentary. salacious. i know fox isn't interested in that. come on. these are legitimate stories to talk about when you have a legitimate situation like this at the white house. you might not want to obsess on it but spin all positive stories. it's a legitimate story of a screwup on behalf of the staff and trump himself who weighed into it and made it worse by not discussing an issue we can agree. i don't think you have to be on the left or the right to agree that hitting a woman is not right for anybody. steve: what i mentioned kellyanne conway, i saw her today, and she spoke powerfully, campaigned on, it cares about, and she would like the white house to be taking that role, and i think the
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stock messups, that's why they're on the defensive. >> she's so far down the rung in power on the white house and the president needs to be the leader on moral issues, that's more important part of his role than leading policy because he thinks he can say and do and tweet about it and he has no problem doing. it seems like he always sides with the abuser or the accused abuser. when does he make statements on the other side? when does he say, look, there's multiple allegations, this person should go. i'm sorry my staff doesn't been it. steve: tomi, the supporters -- >> i think we can all agree, i think that the president could have done a better job in addressing this. that's something we can agree on. i will say this. there are some many on the left that are not going to be happy with anything this president does or says, it's never going to be enough. he could go as far as you explained and people would say it's not enough. turn it back on him.
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what frustrates me is when something happens with the staff. he is the leader. he needs to take accountability, but funny why some on the left say someone in his staff did this, automatically, trump did this. trump is an abuser, trump is an assaulter. they do it day in and day out. >> not a giant leap. they're conflating the two. he has been accused by 16 women of abuse, the accusations are on the record and comes out publicly and only defends the alleged abusener his white house, i don't think it's true. i think if people -- i think if trump came out and said exactly what i said right now. this is horrible, we didn't know about it. make sure that people who knew about it in the staff get reprimanded or let go, this is a serious issue. maybe some on the left make an issue of it, finally he's saying something nice. steve: tomi's right, that actually -- and i take the point, i'm not saying i literally agree it's an
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important thing to focus on but not at the exclusion of real things that affect real people. i made another point about what's going on in d.c. why, people look at d.c. and they're so angry, especially the democrats right now. what's the message for the midterm elections? it's like we hate trump and russia and that's it. >> every single thing that this president does, every single thing that kellyanne conway does. instead of focusing on real things that affect real people. they have no agenda. they have to be hyperfocused on the scandals on the left and the right, the swamp has to be focused on scandal because they have no message. trump is helping the american people. so could his words be nicer? say things a little better? yes, he could. at the end of the day, what impacts real people? unemployment. that's jobs. that's immigration. border security. national security. all things the president is doing and doing well. yes, could he say things better, yes, he can. come on. >> i'm not going to not agree,
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but beating women -- steve: we don't have time. we can come back to it. we'll do a little more. but we've got to go a break now and come to it in a second. we've got to leave it for the minute. later a special edition of "swamp watch." a member of congress reveals unbelievable details of the corrupt system of money and politics in the d.c. swamp. and up next, delay it a little bit, have the conversation, big tech on trial. charges of creepy surveillance destroying jobs, sucking up the despots in china. are the tech firms guilty or not guilty? find out after the break. stimulant laxatives forcefully stimulate the nerves in your colon. miralax is different. it works with the water in your body. unblocking your system naturally. save up to $5 on miralax. see sunday's paper.
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. steve: all right, the big tech companies are getting bigger and more powerful by the day. they're the most valuable corporations on the planet. they affect almost every aspect of our economy, society and daily lives. apple, amazon, facebook and google were once loved and admired, now increasingly loathed and feared. opinion piece set out the charges against big tech. here tonight on "the next revolution" we are putting big tech on trial. there you are, a
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special graphic and special in your honor. i should say to the audience, this very important point, though you are literally the most admired and respected tech journalist, you don't represent tech. in fact, you've been just as critical as many others, but i'm so excited you are here to get the benefit of your experience. the other thing i should always do when we discuss technology is do my full disclosure. i live in silicon valley. i run a tech company, my wife was formerly a top executive at google and now at facebook and we try not to mention uber that came in between. now that's all out of the way. get to the charges. i'm going it read them out and quick response, guilty or not guilty. number one, big tech's creepy surveillance is destroying our privacy. >> i don't think there's a guilty or not guilty, it's -- i couldn't answer that -- i'm sorry. steve: do you think that privacy -- a lot of people argue -- >> yes, of course, there hasn't
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been privacy forever. everything that's happened in the past ten years around digital has been a march toward lack of privacy, for everybody. steve: okay. >> guilty? i don't know if you can say guilty or not guilty. steve: have they done it? the argument, the case against them -- >> of course, some of them make models, apple makes iphone. anyone who has advertising or commerce business absolutely. but that was the business of supermarkets before, they're just better at it. that's what it is. >> i would say crazy guilty. apple especially because they don't have an advertising business and every iteration of the iphone, we unlock it by scanning your eyeballs. that's how you get into the high-security places. >> what phone do you have now? >> the one before that. because i refuse to get it -- >> they have your finger -- >> they have my fingerprint. they made us have it. >> i'm not defending them but,
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yes -- >> you can't -- steve: people surveillance capitalism. l.l. bean they are using technology to put sensors in your clothes that track you so you can track you? >> that's going too far. they're the problem, they are guilty? i don't know, as consumers, we're choosing to use these things. i don't like the victim mentality, big tech is coming to get us. are they going too far? yes. when americans sit back and love iphones and love google and apple and sit back and act like a victim. you don't have to use it. steve: we've got to get to the next one -- >> i've got to get to the next one. you are both a bit reasonable about it, which is very nice to hear, but i'm going to go with your guilty as hell. i'm going to go with guilty for the first one. thank you so much. number two, big tech is destroying jobs? >> i just did a big special on another network. steve: no! that's not allowed.
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>> the future of jobs is an issue for the government, tech companies and citizens to talk about. the digital companies are serious. a.i., automation, robotics, will destroy industries and create jobs. akin to farming to manufacturing shift and i think we have to think hard about who's going to decide, who's going to train people, educate people properly and it is a government business relationship that has to happen. steve: very important point it will create jobs. >> it could, we don't know, we don't know. >> what will determine that? >> i think any job that can be digitized is going to be digitized. from lawyers to accountants to anything that can be digitized will be. and through a.i. and other means, it will destroy jobs. >> the jobs argument is a big reason to donald trump's rise. this feels like it's part of that. >> here's the thing, how i feel about this one, it could destroy jobs, but what i say to workers, when you are demanding
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a $15 minimum wage, don't be surprised when an ipad is going to replace you. when people cry, we need to raise the minimum wage, we need more benefits and perks, companies are going to innovate, replace them with whatever technology is out there. i caution workers before they pick it for more money to flip burgers or what have you that they pay attention. >> they need it to live. the standard of living costs more -- steve: i think on the point about destroying jobs. >> the minimum wage has nothing to do with what's about to happen. this is a cataclysmic change. >> as long as we have job, pay people a living wage. steve: i don't know, i think the -- >> you have no jobs, no income. steve: it could be a big transition. i am going to go with not guilty on this one. i don't think it's right to -- we don't know. the middle ground. >> no middle ground. >> not on this show. steve: number three, big tech is committing.
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this is my favorite one, you can tell. big tech is committing economic treason by helping china in bid for world domination. i'm thinkingly of handing over a.i. technology to the chinese government, qualcomm, you know, the price of access to china is handing over the technology. >> google had been resistant to china for years, they did take a stand. including owners of this network were friendly with the chinese and that's the issue, there was a great story in the new yorker this week that china is pulling ahead of us in lots of ways in technology largely because the government is super committed to it and know it's an important thing. this government, which does not have science, the proper science advisers or anything like that has to think hard when they are doing infrastructure, trade, about what we're going to do here instead of just talking about -- they've got to have a real agenda and a plan, and i don't think that exists. steve: i think that's right. but part of that plan has to be
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-- we're going to have to leave it there, i'm sorry, because you know, we've got to rattle through these things. but i think they definitely, what needs to be part of that plan is actually really standing up for this argument that you shouldn't just be helping china. >> commonsense regulation. steve: verdict on china. guilty. [laughter] >> we're like judge judy. >> no, no, better. steve: coming up later, tonight's swamp has shocking revelations. direct from members of congress themselves about the d.c. swamp. it's not funny. and next, discrimination against conservatives in silicon valley. don't go away. there are two types of people in the world. those who fear the future...
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10-page manifesto, but what do the actual employees of tech companies think? the lincoln network conducted a survey. a silicon valley tech workers from google, uber, facebook and apple speaking online and/or in person to over 400 people. here to break down the results, the co-founder of lincoln network, eric chin. tell us what you found in the survey? >> the lincoln network started five years ago as a desire to organize people who are freedom minded and live in silicon valley. a known issue in silicon valley to have people from the middle to spectrum felt ostracized in the community and james damore highlighting the concerns about technology moving more into the mainstream into policy who have the survey. first we did this as a joke to
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small group of people and woke up the next day, hundreds of responses and people were posting it in the internal chat sessions at google and microsoft and the responses i would say are not surprising, but when you put numbers against, it it's pretty shocking. steve: look at the numbers on this basic workplace ideology, what do you find? >> we found that overwhelmingly, regardless if you are on the left side of the spectrum or the right, people view the technology company as leftist. steve: they all agree with that? >> they all agree with that. steve: whether you yourself self-identify as being on the right or left, universal agreement, the companies themselves have a liberal culture. >> yes. and then the highest segment of -- when you break it down by ideology, the far left were less likely to say that the tech company was conservative versus the very conservatives said zero. steve: right.
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>> which is interesting. what about the -- what do people say how this affected their ability to do their job. >> when you go from middle of the road to the right side of the spectrum, the overwhelming response is it does affect their job on a daily basis, and what's interesting is liberals and some of our one-on-one interviews, they said that post james damore firing, they feel scared about having basic discussions at work. although and it should be said that most people in technology like the day-to-day workers, average engineers at tech companies, they're not really interested in politics, this got added onto silicon valley in many ways but now they definitely fear that it has moved beyond we work at a liberal company to now we're in a moment of rampant intolerance that's going hurt innovation, the ability of companies to have the challenges as well.
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and that's really what silicon valley is about. steve: there's another question forming from that which you asked, which is about people that they could be themselves at work. what did you find there? >> similar to can they bring themselves to work, and what's interesting is that the valley prides itself on the ability to bring yourself to work. prides itself on the ability to being tolerance, that's why we have the perks so you can view google as your home, but overwhelmingly from centrists to very conservative, stark numbers to way over 50% of people said they could not be themselves at work, and they cannot bring themselves to work. they couldn't even bring up controversial issues. we have stories of people being fired for bringing ham sandwich to work at a very vegan company to being almost fired or having negative performance reviews because you attended the wrong political convention. steve: so you started this ooa
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a whole lot. >> i'd love to meet that person, i think that's not true. steve: tech companies, there is a culture in silicon valley, you hear the word diversity and you campaigned on this. >> it is a word they use. steve: normally that is understood to mean gender balance and so on. but ideological diversity doesn't seem to be on the radar at all. >> most people are meet are libertarian. i deal with most of the leaders i meet, most of the average engineers are libertarian more than intolerant on either side, and james damore, i don't think he shot up yet. he's got plenty of place to talk. >> he got fired. >> because google has rules. he doesn't have to work at google. the companies have rules, they have the way they want to build their society and if he doesn't fit in, he doesn't fit in. i can't work at a place like fox, for example. steve: do you feel it's a
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problem that needs to be addressed or not really? >> they have ample opportunity to express themselves. silicon valley talks too much, actually. and they're able to like -- google has dozens, hundreds of hundreds of boards, if you have seen these things sore gone to the meetings or gone to the public meetings, these engineers can say anything they wanted to ceo of the company which doesn't exist anywhere else, you can't do it in a media company. can't start yelling at the owner and get ample opportunity to talk, and the minute there is disagreement, they get upset they can't say anything that's on their mind, they're not children, which they behave like most of the time. steve: tomi, why should we care about this? >> we should absolutely care about. this on the left they appreciate diversity. they want everyone to look different but think exactly the same. that's a problem. you hear many on the left think it's not a problem, you can work somewhere else. on every other issue of the
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spectrum of diversity. they're vocal. they want to stand up for tolerance, except from the right. this is a sdeeshgz it's not only in tech companies it's on college campuses, in the workplace. from here to new york and everywhere in between, it's a problem. people don't feel they are themselves if they're on the right. the left is tolerant so long as you think the way they do. steve: quick last word from you. >> sure, just because there is a difference to protecting diversity when it comes to protecting people and identity and people's opinions of issues of civil rights, of morality. that's where you don't have to accept a tolerance of all views if certain views are abhorrent to you. you are allowed to create a company cult. >> to the left it's abhorrent to vote for president trump. that's the issue. steve: good point, there is definitely that culture of public free speech as well. >> people are libertarians, if
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. steve: welcome back. special "swamp watch" tonight. i recently spoke at the unrigged system conference in new orleans and talked to two members of congress about experience inside our corrupt political system. first up, wisconsin gop congressman mike gal her. take a look. >> this is about the corruption in our political system, how everything is rigged. these are things we cover a lot on our show. in particular on "swamp watch," which i know our audience really likes where, we look at
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the corruption in d.c. and that interchange of money and politics. you've just not got there but you are pretty new to the swamp in d.c. what's been your experience of that? >> sure, so i think the money is a probable, it could be the problem, i don't think at the house side it works the way people thinks it works, right? there hasn't been in my experience a moment where someone says here's five grand and you have to do x to get it. the real danger of the money, the time you spend raising money is time you're not spending doing your legislative work, doing committee work, engaging with colleagues. so the consequence of that is so much of what happens in washington, d.c. is pure political theater, right? it's people running around, running across the street to make calls for money and popping into a committee hearing, reading a question that a staffer told them to read or giving a speech to empty house chamber. that's the problem. steve: this feels like something the parties could do something about within
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congress. you don't need to wait for some kind of legislation. the way it seems to me just talking to people again, raising money is the way you make your way up the ladder. how does that all that work? >> in order to get a committee assignment that you want, you have to be a member in good standing of your political party. right? which means -- steve: is that code for something? >> the dues you pay, and it's on both sides, go up and down in proportion to the perceived value of the committee that you are on. steve: so the dues that you pay? what does that mean? >> you pay dues as a member of congress to the national republican congressional committee and democrats pay dues to the dccc, democratic congressional committee and reinforces the power structures to both parties. steve: you have to raise money? >> yes. steve: and you hand it over to
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the party machine. >> yes. steve: and the more money you raise, you get committee assignments? >> well, it's not quite that explicit, but if you don't -- if you don't actually meet the requirements, then it's less likely that you're going to be put on that committee. steve: so the thing that -- what you're describing is almost the opposite what people would like to see which is passionate people that care about public service get elected. they have expertise in particular topics, they spend time thinking about the topics and debate openly with others in a mature way to come to the right conclusion. none of that really happens. >> let me give you two ideas that would not require legislation at all and i think would help. one, usual week in congress, fly in on monday or tuesday night and fly out on thursday night. ure working, in quotes, two days a week, and people are
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constantly flying back and forth so they don't develop personal relationships there. keep us in session contiguous low for three weeks and require members of congress to work six day work weeks and attend committee hearings and do the unglamorous serious work of evaluating policy. understanding what the federal government is doing in the first place wrapping our head around this process and flying back for a week to your district. that alone would be helpful. steve: yeah -- >> the majority leader could do that tomorrow. and another thing you could do in order to get at this is you could have committee chairman be voted on by the members of the committee. so you would be incentivized to listen to the various voices that are in your committee, and that would require an internal rules change for how we organize as a conference. steve: he exposed something really important there, how you get the jobs on the committees
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is about raising money, and where do you think they get the money for the particular topics they deal with on the committees? from the industries that the committee indicates. >> that sounds real healthy. steve: i know, thank you very much. i also spoke at that conference with hawaii's democratic congresswoman gabbard about what's driving the swampy behavior in washington. take a look at that. >> thank you for joining us, i'm so excited that it is one thing for you to join us on "the next revolution" for ages, i love the way you put such a positive perspective on politics i think is what people are looking for. you are here at the summit, unrig the system, people are talking about corruption. just from your point of view, what's the one or two biggest priorities in terms of unrigging the system and dealing with the broken political system we have? >> yeah, there's so many layers to get at this, but there's no
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question when you look at both the policies that are being made in washington as well as the electoral system itself, so much of it is driven by big special interest dollars, and when you look at that corrosive influence, and how it impacts the decisions that are being made, the kinds of people who are getting elected into office with their support, you can see the clear connection with the impact on people's lives, and how more and more the voices of everyday people all across the country, in my district of hawaii, voices get drowned out and they get frustrated and disengaged and end up with the situation we're in today, where very few people are turning out to vote. very few people are saying, hey, i want to run for office because they see it as an insurmountable challenge, and it no longer is this government of by and for the people our
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forefathers built the foundation for. steve: we're sick of the corruption, what do they do? >> look, the first thing is vote. we've had abysmally low voter turnouts in states like mine and hawaii and nationally in the presidential election. what that results in is a very small group of people, determining the leaders who are going to form and shape the policies that impact us now and for generations to come. so we have a responsibility to cast our vote and make sure that that vote is informed, that we're not just voting blindly because of a political party or because of someone's name, if that's the only thing you know about them. be informed and make sure that the person you are voting for has your interest in mind that there's someone going to fight for and you not writing them a big fat campaign check. steve: and then the final question i just wanted to really focus on is -- you there
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are in d.c., but you have the feel to me of a bit of an outsider. you've been critical of the establishment not just generally but in your own party, too. how did that get changed? >> for this washington bubble that's disconnected from the reality of the lives of americans all across the country, nar bubble to pop, it's got to come from the outside. steve: my thanks to congressman gallagher and congresswoman gabbard. next, could you live without your phone? one of our fanl just tried it. guess how that worked out? and guess how long i've been doing it? we'll tell you after the break. >> tech: at safelite autoglass we know that when you're spending time with the grandkids... ♪ music >> tech: ...every minute counts. and you don't have time for a cracked windshield. that's why at safelite, we'll show you exactly when we'll be there.
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. steve: for many people their cell phone is practically an extension of their body. could you live without yours? let's ask kara, how did it go? >> not well. steve: what was the idea? how did you -- >> i was somewhere where there wasn't electricity or wi-fi so i climbed to the top of the hill and found the cellular service. steve: you did say you will do it for a week. >> yes, especially twitter which i think is addictive. i think can you see i'm
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caressing my phone right here. it's hard to do, they are fantastic devices but at the same time clearly addictive. so it was hard but i managed not to be on twitter, i was so happy all week. the endless cesspool of twitter was away from me, that was nice. e-mails piled up which was irritating but it was nice, it was a nice respite from the constant noise. steve: okay. >> well, i could not live without it. i'm hopelessly addicted to it. i made a new year's resolution i would only check the replies and "likes" twice a day. >> have you done it 17 times since. >> every commercial break i'm immediately like this, it is so deviously brilliant the way they did this. the only thing george orwell got wrong in 1984 the dark distonian future with the government has the screens tracking what you did and said. instead they let us optin, they
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give us the technology and made it seem so irresistibly cool, tell us screens i can look into the world and tell them where i am. my friends know where i am at all times? perfect! the government knows too? perfect! agree, never stops. steve: what is that thing on the back? >> he got a ring -- >> it's a weird version of a pop socket. >> this guy can always be with me. steve: living without a phone? >> i couldn't do it. i'm addicted to it and i know that. i've worked on not using my phone around other human beings. if i'm alone, i'll use my phone, if i'm out with others, i'll put the phone away. if you take a break from technology, you spend twice as much time trying catch up. and to be honest, you have to check what trump is saying.
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>> 100%. >> you have to not use technology when walking around. that's one thing that is critical. what i do a lot of times in san francisco and here today, when someone is walking and looking at their phone and coming into you or behind them, i go hey! like that! put it down. steve: it's a public service. >> i don't like it. i don't like it. >> i text, i shouldn't do it, i do sometimes text when i drive. i use voice text. >> no. >> you can use voice text and punctuation, mom, i will be there in a minute, period, closed (thesies, i'm my own robot. >> i can't wait for that. >> you can take selfies and do your own thing. steve: i promise to tell the audience how long i have been without a phone. six years. >> how do you do that? steve: it's a long story. >> you churn your own butter as well. steve: we have chickens that
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lay their own eggs. >> it's true. i'm impressed. >> why did do you this? steve: that's a long story, and i will direct people to a piece i wrote about it on the internet. google steve hilton cell phone. >> but you can't google, it that's a problem. steve: sorry, got to go. next up, this is a silicon valley story so insane you literally won't believe it, but it's true and it's coming up after the break. the guy says, "you picked the wrong insurance plan." no, i picked the wrong insurance company. with new car replacement™, we'll replace the full value of your car plus depreciation. liberty mutual insurance. when you have a cold, stuff happens. [ dog groans ] [ coughs and sneezes ] nothing relieves more symptoms than alka seltzer plus maximum strength liquid gels.
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this guy has got rather grander plans in mind. he has started a new religion based on artificial intelligence. i am not joking. he set up a church called way of the future and has the gospel called the manual, a liturgy and a place of worship. it will focus on the realization acceptance and worship of the godhead based on artificial intelligence developed through computer hardware and software. what we want he says is a peaceful and serene transition of control of the planet from humans to whatever. and to ensure that whatever knows hope to get along and that's a quote. what will be created to be a god not in the sense it makes lightning working but if there is something a billion times smarter than the smartest human what else would you call it.. i can think of quite a few things. let us know. he said this is not seen as silly or scary and it's a bit
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late for that, don't you? thanks much to our panel. that was great. i hope you can join us next monday when the next revolution will be televised. that is someo remembers her new orleans time. three years in moscow. great having you in dc thanks for coming down. appreciate you being with us. appreciate you being with us at home. "fox news sunday" starts right now. >>chris: talk about possible white house a shakeup after a domestic abuse scandal. while the president has no go. we will discuss what the deal means for the nation's debt, stock market and coming debate over the dreamers with white house the director, mick mulvaney was being talked about as a possible replacement for chief of staff. then, the deficit hawks in congress feel betrayed by a republican president and congressional leaders. >> a country cannot go on spending money like this forever. >> this is the second-largest discretionary increase se


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