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both portraits will be displayed in the national portrait gallery here in washington. thanks for inviting us into your home. that's it for this "special report," fair, balanced and unafraid. "the story" hosted by my colleague martha maccallum. >> martha: thanks a lot. breaking tonight on "the story," new questions about the clinton campaign and the obama white house and what they may have been doing the 2016 election. this comes as democrats wait for the redactions on their memos so they can release it. and also -- and that is an answer to the fisa abuse memo by congress nunes as you remember last week. lindsey graham and chuck grassley dropped a bomb. they handed over a criminal referral for christopher steele written well before the original memo that appears to substantiate and back up what the nunes memo puts forward. senator graham is here tonight to explain what he found and wrote in that original as well as some new things. in the original included this that christopher steele leaked information to the
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media while he was working for the fbi which is not allowed. clinton allies resume rumored te cody shearer research clinton campaign for the state department. the state department which made its way over to the fbi. today, "new york post" editorial writer michael good win wrote this about the whole thing it increasingly appears that the clinton machine was the secret original source of virtually all the allegations about trump and russia, that led to the fbi investigation. joining me now is senator lindsey graham. thank you for being with us this evening. >> good evening. that was a mouthful. >> martha: it was. hope it makes sense. >> there will be a test at the end of the segment, folks. >> martha: not only that but now we will lay new information on top of all of this because you have put out a new memo today that highlights an email that susan rice, advisor to
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president obama, wrote to herself on inauguration day 2017. can you explain to us what you found there. >> yes. i found an odd and disturbing email from susan rice at 12:15 on january the 20th, the day of inauguration. she emails herself about a meeting that occurred on january the 5th in the oval office. and she says in the email that the president was being briefed by the intelligence community about russian hacking in the 2016 election and he had a follow-on brief meeting with sally yates, jim comey, herself, and vice president biden. and she quotes what the president said. now, this is the email to herself 'a meeting with the president on january the 5th. president obama began the conversation by stressing his continued commitment to ensuring that every aspect of this issue, the russian investigation is handled by the intelligence and law enforcement community by the
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book. and in parentheses by the book. the president stressed he is not asking about, initiating, or instructing anything from a law enforcement perspective. he reiterated that our law enforcement team needs to proceed as it normally would by the book. so she is sending herself an email talking about a conversation on january the 5th, with a president reassuring herself and i guess the president that this would be done by the book. i think that's odd and disturbing because we know that the investigation regarding the trump campaign was anything but by the book. >> martha: so why do you think -- has she responded to your letter, first of all? >> we sent a letter to her saying did you email yourself -- usually if you email yourself it's about to pick up something, not about a conversation that seems to be very self-serving when the president is telling the law enforcement intel
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community. when you look at trump associates do it by the book. this meeting was on january the 5th. the email was sent on january the 20th. so, what i'm worried about is this an effort by the president to basically get himself on the record through susan rice to make sure that from his point of view everything was done by the book. the question is did the president know anything about the fisa warrant application? did susan rice know that the warrant application included a dossier from mr. steele, when he was on the payroll of the democratic party, coming from russian sources that he was a political operative being paid by the democratic party and that the information in the fisa warrant application was a dossier that was political in nature and that mr. steele hated president trump, candidate trump and was trying to do he could to deet him. that's not exactly by the book. >> martha: it's interesting. because when you speak about that, and the way that she wrote it, it reminds me in a way of, you know, prior
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protestations on the part of president obama when he wanted to insist during the irs investigation, for example, and also during the hillary clinton investigation that he was absolutely not involved in any of it and that he, in both cases, believed that there would be no law breaking found in any way. so, perhaps, you know, there is an effort to be on the record about this as well that susan rice wanted to document. >> no question. i mean, it's the oddest thing in the world to send an email to yourself on inauguration day about a conversation held on january the 5th where the president tells the law enforcement community and the intel community. now, when you look at this russian stuff, you need to do it by the book. that's an odd thing to be saying on january the 5th. number one, why should he have to say that to begin with. number two, what brought on that conversation on january the 5th? they knew they were going to be out of power just in days. they sent an email trail who
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showing the president was instructing everybody doing it by the book. when you look at what happened, it was an abuse of power not by the book. so this is really odd. >> martha: it also brings to mind the "new york times" story which was written about how, you know, the obama administration was concerned. they wanted to make sure that the little tea leaves were left for the russia investigation. and they lowered the ability for people to be engaged in that in terms of there, you know, classification. and they wanted to make sure as many people as possible saw what they saw as the clues out there that there was something untoward with the trump campaign and russia. is that connected to this, do you think? >> well, they were going to leave bread crumbs, you know, to make sure that people could follow the russian efforts to undermine the 2016 election. what did comey say when the president allegedly told him i want you to do it by the book? do you think comey mentioned to the president that the chief source of information regarding a fisa warrant on
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carter page came from a paid operative of the democratic party, mr. steele who is on the payroll of fusion gps that was being paid by the clinton campaign and the democratic party, that the dossier came from russian sources, very unreliable and still hasn't been verified, that the number four guy in the fbi, mr. ohr's wife worked at fusion gps who did the research for mr. steele? do you think he told the president any of that? this is the oddest conversation i can imagine. why are they talking about doing things by the book on january the 5th and what did comey say when he was told to do it by the book? >> martha: senator graham, thank you very much. we will follow this with great interest as we have throughout. we thank you for being here tonight. thank you, senator. >> thank you. >> martha: here now with more judge andrew napolitano fox news senior judicial analyst. you are listening to all of this judge. what do you make of it. >> something very serious. effort by susan rice to reconstruct history, to make
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barack obama appear as though he was ignorant of the fray fomented by his administration to undermine the incoming president and his hands were absolutely clean. i mean, this is the same barack obama who told our chris wallace he didn't talk to anybody in the justice department about any of the investigations and, yet, we know from the emails from peter strzok and susan page the two fbi people -- not emails whose texts we have seen hundreds of times poet tus written in 2016 to the references to barack obama wants to know all about this. so there is some real. >> martha: the stapg we have is that is with regard to the russia investigation. >> yes there is a serious disconnect there. they must have learned something in the waning minutes of the obama administration which made them worry that what we now know they were doing would be discovered. so, in an effort to reconstruct history, she writes herself a memo, by the way dear susan rice, don't forget that barack
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obama said i want this done by the book and he said it back in january 5th. nobody would believe this. no rational jury. >> martha: january 5th or january 6th. but on inauguration day to go back and make sure while you are still in office some of these things are on the record. her explanation may be as simple she was writing a book. she wanted to make sure she had in in the records. >> could very well be. what senator graham and we all would like to find out what communications made their way to her between january 5th and january 20th, the day donald trump becomes president and barack obama is no longer president that caused her to write. this. did it come from the state department or character cody shearer is more chris steele than chris steele is in terms of feeding information from the democrats to law enforcement and to intel. there's a lot more here to be found. but senator graham and his colleagues are to be
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commended for having found this and gone directly to susan rice and to her lawyers. i saw the letter. to her and to her lawyers earlier today. >> martha: we will see where it goes. judge, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >> martha: joining me is tammy bruce and a former advisor to hillary clinton. thank you both for being here tonight. >> hi there. >> martha: felipe, let me go to you first on this. what do you make of it? >> well, i think senator graham was being at best disingenuous and your previous guest worse than that let's be very clear about something. during the transition when you say something by the book maybe it means by the book. second of all, we are awful forgetting that mike flynn was under investigation. the obama white house during transition warned the trump incoming administration multiple times that there was a problem with mike flynn. that was a concern of theirs. by the way fired mike flynn
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within 23 days of it. in terms of all these conversations and stuff, here's what i don't get. clinton campaign and the obama white house and loretta lynch were all just fen natiofinfe fen nation gling. public that we were being investigated by the fbi. then they shift to trump, no one knows they're shifting to trump. fast forward to october. comey at the worst time brings it up again, still not saying anything about trump. nohow on earth can you say the logic there exists. >> martha: it's possible that it back fired. you know, that the assumption was that hillary clinton would win and that, you know, they were working to discredit drunch the
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candidate. >> why would we allow the investigation start in the first place if we could just turn it off. >> martha: let me make tammy weigh in here. what do you think. >> we are in a age where there is rhetoric and spin. now we are dealing with some facts on the ground frankly i'm also surprise you had. republicans are not good at getting things done. look at mollie hemingway at the federalist with the details of the moment by moment report by report, fact by fact about how this has unfolded and how the clinton team and clinton machine has been involved from the beginning. people expect rhetoric and certain kinds of spin. now the difference now these days is that there is a variety of information media outlet where the democrats and liberals are the establishment in general, including some of the republicans don't control
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all of the information come out. people are not just reliant on sources from television. amazing amount of details like that letter to susan rice. we have seen it we have actually seen the letter. that is something maybe 10 years ago the measure people wouldn't even see. so we are seeing at the very basic dynamic at least some kind of shenanigans funny business leading up to this. >> and how is by the book shenanigans? >> committees and that this investigation will make a difference. >> martha: felipe, the reason that by the book, i guess, is getting attention was in quotes. they are wondering why she wrote it on january 20th on inauguration day rather than january 5th or january 6th. >> i think no matter what susan rice wrote or font orson tax, we would be having this conversation about it as far as mike cad goomichaelgood win is concerned. as negative he's gets and
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every time he can take two paths he takes the more conspiratorial. george papadopoulos is the reason investigation started. we are conflating the investigation starting and the fisa warrant. the investigation started either late spring or early summer. and that was based on george papadopoulos, period. >> well, i think there is always going to be an excuse or at least a trigger that allows to you move down a dynamic. when it comes to conspiracies. the democrats have their own with conspiracies that debunk between donald trump and the russians. >> we are the in the world. >> i will tell you the other thing about this, the transition between the fifth and the 20th, but this notion of being by the book, one halls to ask and i think this is senator graham's point, something also said in that meeting that was memorialized where the president was informed or at least had an inclination of what had been going on for the entire year previously. why was that meeting where he would challenge them to
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be by the book not done in the summer of 2016? see, this is the strange timing. that kind of dynamic. >> because the white house made a decision. >> martha: quickly. >> president obama made a decision not to announce that there was russian meddling. how do you in any way that's by the book. that's by the book and that hurt hillary clinton. not donald trump. >> martha: we have got to leave it there. good to see you both. >> thanks, martha. >> martha: making sense of deleted tweet about north korean cheerleaders calling north korean cheerleaders, quote: this is so satisfying to watch, it says. while many appear to be in a dangerous la la land as they witness a barrage of north korean propaganda at the games. just look at this photo. this is south korea all lit up at the bottom there and there is north korea in the dark except for pyongyang and ask about this man and whether or not he is the one
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>> martha: olympic games never fail to produce special athletes that the entire country and the world get behind. this time around it seems much of the adulation so far at least to the media directed at something bizarrely different. the brutal dictatorship of north korea. kim jong un's sister, a powerful player in her brother's clearly savage regime is emerging as something of a darl of the games with american news outlets calling her captivating. many also fawning over north korea's cheerleaders going so far as to praise their fashion sense. all this while they slam vice president pence for basically not being nicer to the regime during the games. >> kim jong un's sister, the first member of the regime to come into the south since the war and the united states essentially saying to its ally, no, no, no, no. >> never perceived american jab at the peace overtures
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the vice president's special guest at the olympics the father of otto warmbier. >> does it suggest to you that the north koreans are a lot more rational than we think. >> certainly when you talk about optics. north korea is coming out of it extremely well. >> trace gallagher in our west coast newsroom with the back story tonight. hi, trace. >> hi, martha. major media outlets coming under fire. glowing coverage of north korea's cheerleaders that you pointed out the "u.s.a. today" said quoting proved to be one of the most indelible memories of these olympics and then there is the high praise of kim jong un's sister kim jong un who a woman with a phoenix like smile or the new york headline sister turns on the charm. every comment came a dig at the u.s. including cnn using a north korean source to go after vice president mike pence. watch this. >> the biggest insult the north koreans say was that
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the vice president chose to stay seated and he didn't clap when the unified korean olympian team came out during the ceremonies. my source called it undignified act that degraded the status of the united states. >> yet, cnn chose not to have a u.s. source balance that statement. even a commentary on cbs trump network every knows the press hates president trump who knew they hated him enough to make a hero out of one of the most deadly dictators in history? a dictator by the way who is believed ordered the assassination of his own half-brother. and according to south korea, a dictator who publicly executes thousands of his own citizens to keep the population in line? a 2014 united nations report also detailed, quote: unspeakable atrocities afflicted on political prisoners in north korea where three americans are still being held. 5-year-old tony kim. 5-year-old tim and kim dong
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all serving long terms for alleged hostile acts against the north, charges that human rights groups call bogus. who can forget the treatment of otto warmbier sent home to die after suffering brain damage in north korean prison. many north korean defectors have also documented the horrific living conditions, including a man named g named h. >> one day he tried to steal coal from a railroad car to barter for a few scraps of food which were very hard to get. in the process, he passed out on the train tracks exhausted from hunger. he woke up as a train ran over his limbs. >> coming out, quite a contrast, martha, to the glamorous headline coming out of the winter olympics.
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>> martha: trace, thank you very much. good reminders there bill bennett host of the podcast. he is also a fox news contributor. bill, good to see you tonight. it seems that, you know, they are pretty much eating out of the hands of the north koreans because they have played this perfectly in terms of presenting themselves in a way that certainly the regime is absolutely not to be represented. >> yeah, i think a line from shakespeare we will go to them most counterfeitly. we all knew the media preferred the liberals and the democrats to trump and pence and republicans. but we didn't know they preferred the north koreans, at least on this occasion to mike pence. really disgusting and disheartening. kim yo jong the sister who charmed everyone. i will concede she is better looking than her brother. that's not hard.
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>> martha: better hair cut. >> yeah. okay. well, yeah, you noticed that. she is in charge of propaganda in this terrorist and totalitarian state. i don't know if anyone else had this thought, martha. did you? when you saw that photo of her sitting right behind mrs. pence. didn't you get nervous? i mean, i got worried that she or one of her handlers might lean over and, you know, do something to the vice president or mrs. pence. remember, this is the crowd, you know, that killed his half-brother, kim jong un's half-brother in an airport. i wouldn't put anything past these. i assume secret service had things totally under control. >> martha: you got to imagine that for secret service it was not an optimum situation. and something that no doubt. >> exactly. >> martha: they weren't too comfortable with. i want to show you this quote from a "u.s.a. today" piece today by david meeks. by stand and recognizing athletes of the korean
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unified team as they walked during during the opening ceremony, pence not only offended the host country he sent a message the trump administration not only common courtesy matters more than childish politics. your thoughts. >> childish politics may be leading to something. supposing all these things that the north koreans are doing are not head fakes. maybe they really do want to sit down and talk and mike pence's last comments were, you know, we are not going to ease up. we are not going to ease up on the sanctions. by the way the sanctions are beginning to have their effect. he said if they want to talk, we'll talk. the other thing, you know, you mentioned. you showed the cheerleaders and the cheer squad and all. i thought compared to a good group from texas, high school. they were pretty amateurish. remember as i was watching what about defection? what if some of these people want to defect like that brave soldier who they found
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in such horrible shape in terms of what was inside him from eating the north korean diet. supposing they want to defect? you realize they can't defect because the punishment for defection if you are a young person or an old person is three generations of your family will go to their version of the gulag. so if you are a young person like many of them were, it would be your parents, grandparents and perhaps your infant children or child. >> martha: unbelievable. >> this is a brutal and horrible regime and the press should never forget that. >> martha: i just want to put up this tweet from willie geist who took an opportunity to actually do some real sort of journalistic assessment here and he seems to be standing out in the crowd at nbc. i can report south koreans and here in pyeongchang are not enthralled with kim yo jong in north korean cheerleaders as it seems some media are back home.
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we have seen tragedies before at olympics. these are times when these countries come together and when the reality is of what exist in the world can be talked about and pointed out. it's a great effect. >> yeah. what about kids, martha in school who haven't learned anything about south korea or north korea or who think socialism is preferable to capitalism as we saw in the last survey. so here's an opportunity to teach some geography and what's behind the geography the differing systems and political systems. they hear all the swooning about the cheerleaders and about kim yo judge, they seem like perfectly decent people. here is educational opportunity, what we call a teachable moment that was lost if you were limping to a lot of the mainstream media. shame on them. >> martha: that's a great point as always. bill bennett. thank you so much. good to see you tonight, sir. >> thank you, martha, thank you. >> martha: president trump speaking to the forgotten men and women who he addressed during the campaign in his
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infrastructure plan. >> it provides $50 billion for rural infrastructure, to ho have really been left out. >> martha: this as we mark 50 years since robert f. kennedy's poverty tour. why are so many of those kennedy democrats now trump republicans? finance a fascinating political shift. we will talk about that coming up next. and israel and iran battle in the skies. where is this heading? ♪ when you have a cold, stuff happens. [ dog groans ] [ coughs and sneezes ] nothing relieves more symptoms than alka seltzer plus maximum strength liquid gels.
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♪ >> martha: so today for the first time since december president trump spoke to vladimir putin specifically about middle east peace negotiations ahead of putin's meeting with palestinian leader mahmoud abbas. just last month as you may remember, mahmoud abbas turned down a meeting with vice president mike pence. this as tensions continue to grow across the region. over the weekend, more fighting broke out when an iranian drone entered israeli airspace and one of the israeli teams responding to it was shot out of the sky by a syrian missile. shortly after israel retaliated by disseminating 12 nearby bases in syria. all of them with ties to iran. here now to sort this out to us tom rogan washington
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examiner. most of the mclaughlin group. good to see you tonight. what is the most important take away, do you think, from what happened over the weekend between israel and iran? >> thank you for having me on, martha. i think there are two points. first of all, it shows the prime minister netanyahu is very clearly trying to draw or trying to enforce israel's red line. he has said they would take action of this disagree before. secondly though, i think it's important to recognize that syrian air defenses seemed to have improved. who is syria's main militaryian benefactor. they're is broader regional ramifications and 1r5r8 trying to send a message to iran and to syria if you try to exert more pressure on us, we will make the costs higher for you than they are for us. >> martha: yeah. i mean, obviously, a lot of delegate diplomacy, discussions going on here as you point out, vladimir putin sort of on the other
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side of this equation, clearly. and then you have the discontent over the trump administration's decision to declare jerusalem the capital of israel as secretary tillerson heads over there so lay out for us what we should be watching on that trip as well. >> well, i think it's quite clear that prime minister netanyahu, there was a recent vote in the israeli cabinet which, again, people sometimes think that prime minister netanyahu as much as president trump is the leader of the republican party, is the leader of the israeli government. is he on paper. but he leads a collision coalite fractious. parties much more dedisposed not making concessions to the palestinians, perhaps he would be. what you see from secretary of state rex tillerson is an effort to try to say look, the united states has moved our embassy to jerusalem. a major concession. it is now time for you to make concessions. and we will see whether prime minister netanyahu can take more formaive steps
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there. if not, i think the peace process goes on hold for the foreseeable future and certainly there are elements in israeli politics and on the hard line elements with some of the palestinian parties, most notably who would like that outcome. >> martha: quickly, do you expect that we're going to see more of the kind of military action that we saw over the weekend? >> yes, i do. because the iranians will keep pushing u fortunately though, the israelis, i think, have an understanding of the need to enforce this red line. next time i think you will see strikes inside damascus. they tend to enforce red lines. >> martha: tom hogan, great to have you with us. >> thank you. >> martha: unveil official portraits. what do you think when you see them? that's one of them. plus senator robert kennedy's devotion to the poorest amongst us in appear ap.
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>> it provides $50 billion for rural infrastructure who have really been left out. the rural folks have been left out, including broad band, internet access, which they don't have, and they want it. and the farmers want it. >> martha: president trump speaking of the forgotten men and women that he talked about so much on the campaign. americans living in rural communities, blue collar
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workers who feel ignored or betrayed. these were bedrock for democrats until last few years. 50 years ago that senator kennedy took a tour across the united states reaching out and taking on poverty as "u.s.a. today" puts it what was kennedy country is trump country. children of kennedy democrats are trump republicans. those inspired by rfk in 1968 which what should be happy anniversary is instead an occasion to puzzle the reversal of political fortune. patrick kennedy former rhode island congressman and nephew of the late robert f. kennedy joins knee now. great to have you. >> thank you, martha. >> martha: what goes through your mind as you hear that quote from "u.s.a. today"? >> well, unfortunately, there are parts of this country that have never seemed to do well and the people in those parts of the country know when they look at how other americans are living that they are not keeping pace and that there is something fundamentally
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unjust and wrong with how this country leaves them behind. the feelings that my uncle bobby faced when he visited those areas, hardest hit, and every economy where people felt that they were left out, left behind are really the same feelings, i think that president trump found when he visited those areas so the one consistency is that the people in those areas have for good reason felt that they have been left behind in the pursuit of the american dream. >> martha: yeah. i want to play a sound bite from hillary clinton when she was confronted by a coal miner during the campaign that might speak a lot. let's watch. >> i just want to know how you can say you are going to put a lot of coal miners out of jobs and then come in here and tell us how you are going to be our friend. >> you know, i'm -- i don't know how to explain it other than what i said was totally out of context from what i
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meant because i have been talking about helping coal country for a very long time. >> martha: so there is a disconnect in an area that as i said was such a strong hold for democrats. so, i'm interested in your assessment of how democrats lost this group and, of course, i'm sure they are working hard to get them back, but how do you think they lost them? >> well, i first of all think that my uncle robert cengsd certainly in the minds' eye of most historians was someone who could connect with people on a very human level and evoke the kind of spiritual leadership that is so wanting in america today especially. people found him genuine and his concerns for them and their economic deprivation authentic and that's what i think connected them so much to robert kennedy's america i think it's crucial for
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news this day and age not have a particular ideology where we will give you these things and expect to you vote for us because i don't think in this day and age people vote on those terms. i think they vote in a very real way for who they can connect with on an emotional level and certainly for robert kennedy, people of appalachia and indian country certainly connected with robert kennedy on an emotional level. >> martha: patrick, thank you very much. good to have you with us tonight. >> thank you, martha. >> martha: here now with more charles hurt political columnist for "the washington times" and fox news contributor. charlie, good to have you tonight. i think it's interesting when you look back 50 years and you look at -- i don't think that democrats right now are seen as the party of the poor or the party that is really trying to eradicate poverty. and i don't know if anyone is doing that successfully right now. that is clearly of the way that they used to be seen that isn't what we saw in
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the 2016 election. >> no, it isn't. they certainly have sort of lost much of their reputation for that i think it's largely because, the democratic party today can be very patronizing and looks at people like those very people you are highlighting that supported robert kennedy 50 years ago and donald trump today. they looked at those people and thought they were looking for handouts. the democratic party today, the kennedy brothers would not recognize the democratic party today. you would not have a democrat today say ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country. that's very much because the democratic party has become the party of class warfare and handouts. they make economic agreements with voters. you vote for us, we will give you certain things. that's not -- that's not the party that works progress or the works project administration. the kennedys and before that fdr, they believed in work.
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and all that seems to be gone from the democratic party today. and you look at a guy like donald trump and that video you showed him violating the cardinal rule of politicians you never put a hat on in public. of course he puts that thing on and starts shoveling. it was the fact that he was talking about work and those people that those people that he was targeting there they want to work is what they are looking for. he responded to that. >> martha: people are proud of work and doing well. they want a chance to do that and provide for themselves and families. it's going to be interesting to see if those promises were kept to them as we move forward and we don't have to answer that quite yet. >> absolutely. with the economy going the way it is. it certainly puts it in that favor anyway. >> martha: good to see you. >> martha: thank you, more that. portrait of michelle obama unveiled today. every president and first
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>> martha: today was the day new portraits of president obama and former first lady michelle obama generating mixed reviews.
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folks on social media specifically taking aim at michelle obama's modern depiction by amy. some saying it doesn't look that much like the former first lady. here now dana loesch and nationally syndicated radio hosts a you know. dana, thanks for being here tonight. >> good to be with you, martha. >> martha: this is something we watch whenever a president leaves office after a year or so they unveil the portraits and everybody critiques them as we do in america. there is president bush in his. which i think is actually a very nice portrait. and there is laura bush. laura bush's portrait also beautiful. then we have the clintons on the left and right there. can you see their moment when it was unveiled. no doubt when they do this, dana, you know, the person who is -- nobody likes the portrait of themselves completely i would imagine. you feel like it doesn't look like you. and michelle obama looking at hers. what do you think? >> these are your forever portraits and this goes -- these portraits go in the national portrait gallery. it's just -- i mean kudos to
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them for not doing the whole thing where they are just holding papers and grabbing the back of a chair. i will start with the former president's, he is fighting with -- he is floating, ivey, whatever it is he is floating in a cloud of kugzu. now we are all looking at it. >> yeah, yeah. he is flighting in this cloud. he is competing with the background. i know mr. wiley the artist of this particular portrait. i don't know, someone said it's just go and street cast people and combine them with hyper luxurious background. feels like you are fighting to pay attention to him as oppose to the background. but his like news really does look like him: i like the way the sunlight is playing on his face. >> martha: to his credit he said he asked him to give him smaller ears and less gray hair and but they didn't -- >> -- right. >> martha: i like the modernness of them. >> should have toned down
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the -- >> martha: i know we have a little delay that's why it sounds like we are stepping on each other. i like the modern nature of both of these. i think they are interesting to look at. good to sort of push the edge of the portrai portraita le bit. what do you think of michelle obama? >> it doesn't look like her. it looks like regina king it doesn't look like the first lady. perspective is kind of -- i don't know, the proportions are wrong. i know some people just say that's artist styling. i is a i sometimes think stylized. her shoulder is not in real life bigger than her head and i mean, come on. it looks cold, flat and stilsterile. regardless whether you like her or policy proposer. that doesn't suit her personality. her personality is not cold and sterile and flat. and that painting looks like it is incredibly flat. it doesn't even look like her. that's the thing. if it was just her likeness, it looks like napoleon
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dynamite. he divided to paint the former first lady. >> martha: dana, stepping in as art critic tonight. good to see you. coming up next, the high flying american teenager who charmed the world brought home gold and tattled on his loved ones, after this. so he got home safe. yeah, my dad says our insurance doesn't have that. what?! you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance.
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healthful. flavorful. beneful. >> martha: my favorite story of the kay teaday team u.s.a. bg home the gold. born in 2000, folks, to make you feel old. 176 his friends and family dime south korea, made the long trip to cheer him on it seems like they are having a pretty good time. he said to reporters this morning, quote, i got a snapchat this morning at 8:30 when i was taking the bus up and shotgunning beers on the way to the mountain. that's a family after my own heart. congratulations, way to go. that is our story tonight. see you back here tomorrow night at 7:00. my friend tucker carlson is coming up next. ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tucker: well, good evening and welcome to tucker carlson tonight. you may think the media are only capable of skepticism and loathe some. journalists can love too. latest crush the democratic people's republic of north korea. kim yo jong is at the winter olympics this week. according to the press, she is a huge star. bigger star even than our vice president, mike pence or for that matter bigger that are stan any of the actual athletes. don't believe it, consider some of these descriptions from "the washington post: the ivanka trump of north korea captivates. from cnn,


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