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retire that calendar with their coupon is utterly ridiculous. i didn't write that line. somebody on the staff wrote it at but i read it and it was good. i tried to pull it off. they are supposed to be looking for the cow appreciation day but how are you going to tell when cow appreciation day is happening if you don't have a calendar? shannon bream is going to sort that out with mike pompeo. i am sure it is one of the questions she is going to ask him. it is pressing here on "the ingraham angle." i'm jason chaffetz. thanks for having me. >> shannon: jason, had i known ahead of the interview, i would have asked him. in the meantime, i will challenge you to a nugget eating contest. we'll get back to that. >> jason: there is no way. >> shannon: [laughs] we begin our show with a fox news alert. secretary of state mike pompeo is speaking out tonight extensively on backlash to the helsinki summit, and shedding new light on what happened behind closed doors. my interview with him coming up shortly. i knew tonight, deputy attorney general rod rosenstein turned to speak. he is making that major news
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along with the director of national intelligence dan coats. enter mccarthy will break it down for us. as california continues to wage war, it's a resistance against the trump administration over immigration policies, and old policy of the good the gubernatorial front-runner gavin newsom has progressives worried. why he is apologizing and backtracking. hello and welcome to "fox news @ night." i box to shannon bream in washington. the white house tapping down a firestorm, saying that president trump is not entertaining vladimir putin's proposal to allow his government interview americans. despite the outrage following the helsinki summit, president trump says he is ready now for around two. team coverage tonight. kristin fisher on the justice department's new effort to fight election meddling. richardson at the state apartment on pompeo's importance to all of us. we begin with chief national correspondent ed henry with the very latest from the white house. good evening. >> there were signs today that may be the democrats had overplayed their hand a little and some of the mainstream eddie had gone a little hysterical in
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their over coverage of what president trump said and did not say in helsinki. but then the white house gave the story a little bit of a new life by revealing they have invited vladimir putin to visit the white house for the first time since 2005. it will happen this fall right before the midterms. intelligence officials say putin is trying to interfere with the midterms. democrats will undoubtedly try to politicize that visit, white house spokeswoman sarah sanders frame this as an important policy dialogue, the president told john bolton to invite boudin to washington to follow up on potential breakthroughs. putin telling reporters that in to in private in helsinki, he presented a new plate on ukraine while the white house has been touting the fact that they are talks of syria, north korea, other hot spots may also bear fruit. in several tweets this morning, the president attacking the press for setting a negative narrative about helsinki to "ths so badly to see a confrontation with russia, a confrontation that could lead to war. their bushings are recklessly hard, they hate the fact that i will have a good relationship with putin.
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we are doing much better than any other country." the president tweeted a video showing secretary of state hillary clinton was extolling the virtues of getting close to putin while in a cnbc interview the president said, while his words have been dissected again and again, when you look at action on sanctions and other matters, he's been tougher on russia than anyone, while democrats, led by adam schiff, try to turn the intelligence hearing under the threat from china into a circus as they tried to subpoena the translator who sat in between the meeting between trump and putin in helsinki. >> we want a strong russia because a strong, competent, prosperous and stable russia is in the interest of the world. >> getting along with president putin, getting along with russia as a positive, not a negative. with that being said, that doesn't work out, i will be the worst enemy has ever had. the worst he has ever had. >> it is our motion that the interpreter be subpoenaed to come and testify in post session for our committee.
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i would like to yield to mr. eric swalwell for the purposes of -- >> did you make a motion? >> i am making a motion, yes. i would like to -- >> this is, as you know, this is a hearing. and the only motion you can make is a motion to adjourn. >> mr. chairman, my motion is that we subpoena the interpreter. that we have her come and testify in closed session. >> that would be unprecedented. as you see, devin nunes, the republican, swatted it down. it was a meeting on china's theft of intellectual property and a search of the american government while democrats again tried to focus on russia. to be seem to like it there. thank you very much. some of the biggest names in the administration showing up in aspen, famous for its gatherings of global elites. tonight, the nation's top spy and the deputy attorney general technically robert mueller's bosque of our making some big news. correspondent tricked on my kristin fisher is tracking of the news. >> there are so headlines coming
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out of the aspen security forum that is hard to know where to begin. let's start here. the nation's spy chief, dan coats, went rogue and said things that president trump is likely not to be happy about told the crowd tonight that he has no idea what happened in that meeting between president trump and putin. he would have suggested a different way. he also said that the reason he put out that statement defending the intelligence community's assessment of russian meddling was because he felt the need to set the record straight. listen. >> i just felt at this point in time, that what we had assessed and reassessed and reassessed and carefully gone over, it was important to take that stance on back with the intelligence community and the american people. anyone who thinks of vladimir putin doesn't have a stamp on everything that happens in russia is misinformed. >> you can imagine his surprise
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when he was completely broadsided by the news on live tv that a second meeting with putin had already been planned, this time, in the united states. >> the white house has announced on twitter that vladimir putin is coming to the white house in the fall. >> say that again? [laughter] >> vladimir putin -- >> did i hear you? >> yeah, yeah. >> okay... [laughter] >> that's going to be special. [laughter] >> is going to be extra special, since the deputy attorney general rod rosensteint detail just how much the russiae continuing to metal right now, regardless of whether a selected time or not. he made a major announcement. from now on, the justice department will alert the public to any foreign operations targeting u.s. democracy, such
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as exactly what russia did in the 2016 election. >> exposing schemes to the public as an important way to neutralize them. the american people have a right to know if foreign governments are targeting them with propaganda. >> in fact, a microsoft executives speaking at the same aspen forum said that his team has uncovered evidence that russian military intelligence has already targeted at least three candidates running for election this year. shannon? >> shannon: kristin fisher, thank you very much. scrutiny tonight over the timing of the indictments of 12 russian intelligence officers for their alleged roles in computer hacking aimed at election interference. >> i think it was a terrible mistake for the department of justice, to issue that indictment on the eve of foreign policy trip. the justice department is not supposed to be intruding on the foreign policy of united states. they should have, on their own, held onto it. >> shannon: without, fox news contributor, former chief u.s.
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attorney, andrew mccarthy. great welcome. great to have you with us here tonight. i know you agree there are problems with this indictment, you may have different ones and professor alan dershowitz what you say that it's either one of two things. publicity stunt or a political statement. how so? >> when you use an indictment to have a story rather than to put people on notice for trial, which is what an indictment is for, and an indictment is to put dependence on notice of what the charges against them are, this situation involves 12 people who are actually agents of the intelligence and military apparatus of a foreign government to carried out operations against the united states, in this case, cyber espionage. they are never going to see the inside of an american courtroom. so if you're using an indictment for that purpose, you are using it to put out a statement. it's not fair to help them prepare their defense.
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there isn't going to be any defense. >> shannon: of course, the deputy attorney general knows there are critics out there who think this wasn't the right to move or a smart move. he talked about that tonight. we want to play a little bit of what he said about why he thinks this indictment was important. >> some critics argue against prosecuting people who live in foreign countries that are unlikely to extract their citizens. i think it is a shortsighted view. they do not underestimate the long arm of american law or the resolve of american law enforcement. >> shannon: he went on to say, these indictments will impede people's travel if they go through a country that is considered one with rule of law, they will have a hard time, and may end up in custody anyway, it's a deterrent, and it makes them less attractive as people who could be employed, financial partners, coconspirators. >> that is how it is going to be for the americans who are now going to, based on our green light, we have set up a system
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or other countries are incentivized to do exactly the same thing to our intelligence operatives and our other officials who, by the way, are more active than the officials of any country in the world. so i respectfully suggest that deputy attorney general rosenstein may not like living in the world that he created. >> shannon: that is true. we have to think about the fact that as you said, this president will be used against our men and women who are working around the world in various roles in intel and otherwise. i know that you said, as well, you believe there are other ways this could have been handled other than the indictment. mueller himself, the fbi, could have issued reports that would have singled out these people. why do you think the indictment is the way this was rolled out? it was his guts with the president in advance. there are reports that he said, yes, let's do this. >> i think since the president was given the option to not have the indictment come out before the meeting, and i applaud
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deputy attorney general rosenstein for making sure that happened, they had to have thought that it would strengthen his hand going into the negotiations. if the plan was not executed well, that is another matter. but that actually must have been a calculation they made. but i do think, shannon, that this reminds me a lot about the debates that we had in the 1990s about whether terrorism, especially attacks by an international terrorist organization against the united states overseas, whether terrorism was actually a law enforcement problem, whether a great nation, when it's attacked by a foreign hostile actor, responds by issuing indictments and subpoenas, when most of the bad actors are never going to see the inside of an american courtroom. it seems to me there is a lot of ways, and you have to hope this is going to go on, that we can respond to russia besides an
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indictment that is really just telling a story that is never going to be actually prosecuted. rosenstein says, we prosecute people who do this kind of stuff. they are not going to prosecute these guys. >> shannon: i don't think they will be vacationing in the u.s. anytime soon. andrew mccarthy, always great to read your stuff and have you on. thank you for coming. >> thank you. >> shannon: after the russia semi turned into a full-blown media and political feeding frenzy, senate democrats and republicans wanted to hear from the president's top advisors about what went down behind closed doors with a. end. at the top of their list, secretary of state mike pompeo. the secretary scheduled to appear before the senate foreign relations committee next wednesday in an open session. data from from a richardson noh more on why pompeo is so important for untangling what went down in helsinki. >> the white house is objecting a white house to question michael mcfaul, american born investor, bill browder, and
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several other citizens. after acknowledging that president trump discuss that with vladimir putin in helsinki and was working with his team of the issue, white house white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders is in a statement, "it was their proposal that was made in sincerity by president putin but president trump disagrees with it. was go that follow state department spokesperson heather nauert who criticize that idea. >> i can't criticize the white house without but i can tell you that the overall assertions that have come out of the russian government are absolutely absurd. the fact that they want to question 11 american citizens and the assertions that the russian government is making about those american citizens. >> democrats and republicans say they are trying to figure out what happened between president trump and president putin this weekend helsinki. secretary of state mike pompeo is expected to testify next week before the senate foreign relations committee and answer questions about just that. the state department says he also plans to update congress on his negotiation with north korea. tomorrow the secretary travels
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the united nations headquarters in new york to discuss north korea talks with japanese and south korean officials. and russia is now suggesting the united nations security council considered easing sanctions against north korea. the u.s. and its allies disagree. >> we remain firm that the security council sanctions placed upon north korea for its nuclear and missile provocations will remain in place and be faithfully implemented. >> while the trump administration says it refused to lift current sanctions, it has avoided additional sanctions against north korea. as long as it negotiates in good faith. >> secretary pompeo says earlier this week, north korea agreed to retain all micro the remains of some u.s. service members from the korean war. the secretary says that transfer is expected that a couple of weeks. shannon? >> shannon: rich edson from the state department, thank you. the white house withdrew denominations of one of president trump's traditional picks just minutes before he was set for a senate confirmation
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vote. u.s. attorney ryan brown's had been in line to be a judge of the ninth u.s. or to circuit court of appeals. the two senators from his head state, home state, objected to the nomination, protested and ss on the senate floor. melania trump spent some of her day listening to teens talking about their best practices for being civil online. mrs. trump met with 15 students from across the nation who are tasked with helping the tech giant microsoft on the issue of youth centered online safety. the president spoke to run the internal revenue service is facing opposition from several senate democrats. they say they'll vote against charles reddick, protesting the agency policy, some groups won't be forced to disclose their donors are dying and thieves. critics of the policy will let more so-called dark money, including from foreign interests, flood into the u.s. political system. coming up, cable news exclusive interview with secretary of
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state mike pompeo. >> the russian abbasid or to the u.s. is now saying there were is made with the president. can you tell us anything about that? >> i'm not sure i would take the russian abbasids words for a whole lot. >> shannon: bombshell for gavin newsom. jonathan hunt investigates next. ♪ [music playing] across the country, we walk. carrying flowers that signify why we want to end alzheimer's disease. but what if, one day, there was a white flower for alzheimer's first survivor? what if there were millions of them? join us for the alzheimer's association walk to end alzheimer's. register today at in testing our performance line, we go to
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♪ >> shannon: this is a fox news alert. new video from iowa showing extensive damage from devastating tornadoes that touched on east of des moines. a manufacturing plant apparently taking a direct hit. several people were rushed to the hospital, still unclear the extent of their injuries. rescuers were going through the rubble. so far we are told no fatalities have been reported. amanda reported 60-mile-per-hour wind gusts, one of those two work boats crashed in branson, missouri. 31 people were on board. we've gotten preliminary reports of people actually fatalities in an accident. we'll stay on it. california is continuing to wage war against trump administrations immigration policies. democratic gubernatorial hopeful gavin newsom says he thinks he is the best suited for the fight but in all policy decision of his has progressives worried tonight. chief correspondent jonathan hodges digging into that.
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good evening, jonathan. >> gavin newsom is the frontrunner in the california governor's race. he's been outspoken in his support for california's so-called sanctuary state policies. he's been openly critical of president trump's words and actions on immigration and has presented himself as the best possible person to lead california and its ongoing battles with the administration over immigration policy. in 2008 when he was mayor of san francisco, newsom instigated a policy that required law enforcement officers to report young undocumented immigrants to immigration and customs enforcement if those immigrants were charged with violent felony crimes. the important and controversial part of that being the idea that juveniles face deportation on the basis of simply being charged, not convicted. newsom enacted the policy in the wake of the murder of a san francisco father and his two
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sons by an illegal immigrant and ms-13 member who had previously been arrested twice but not deported because of san francisco's sanctuary polic policy. >> the sanctuary city was never designed to be in any way, shape, or form, a framework where people can commit crimes and be shielded against those crimes. that is perverse. it's absurd. >> newsom now says he was wrong, telling the sacramento bee, "these were people charged but not convicted. some people ultimately were exonerated. i will just say this to my critics. fair game. looking back, there were things we could have done differently." the mayor quotes comes in the protests of president trump's policy of some writing immigrant children from their families at the border. republican john cox, newsom's opponent in the race to be california's governor, wrote on
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facebook, "as usual, gavin newsom wants it both ways. a san francisco mayor, newsom ' 'policy reported undocumented youth to i.c.e., he was forward before he he was against it it." usc "los angeles times" poll last month showed newsom with a comfortable 17-point lead over john cox among those who plan to vote in november. it will be an interesting one, shannon. >> shannon: we'll watch along with you on the west coast. jonathan hunt, thank you very much. for more insight into the california governor's race and many other things, joining me now, fox news politics editor, editor of the halftime report, chris stirewalt. >> happy almost friday. >> shannon: you see the story about gavin newsom, also part of what he said about why they made changes. he said we were the poster child for the same story policy, we have a tragic example where someone was in our custody, ms-13 young person, when he was released, came and shot three members of a family.
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he said that that is why they had to crack down on things but with the president talked about cracking down on things because of ms-13, he gets raked over the coals. throwing everyone of the same bucket. it was okay for the democrats were not for the president? >> gavin newsom is lucky on timing. if this would've come out of the primary, it might have been enough for the former mayor of los angeles to get a little more traction and try to get past john cox in the jungle primary to get into second place, get out there, at then he could be dogging him with us now. instead for a new symptom of the way it works out is, he poses ultra left and then ruth -- i shouldn't say poses -- he runs as an ultraleft candidate in the first round of the primary, andn gets beyond that, and if he can pass as a hard-liner of immigration, just in time for the -- >> shannon: speaking of elections, the president talked about someone he would not mind matching up against next time around. here's what he has to say about the former vice president.
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>> i dream about barden. that's a dream. joe biden ran three times. he never got more than 1%. and president obama took him out of the garbage heap and everyone was shocked that he did. >> shannon: there are a lot of people you know last time around who thought joe biden was very lovable, had longtime democrat record and support anti-could have been a very viable contender. >> history i think will report that hillary rodham clinton was the worst major party nominee in two generations. really catastrophically bad. just in so many different ways, with her base, with persuadable voters, all of these things. go to a different democrat has beaten donald trump? probably. with that democrat have been joe biden? i don't know. joe biden is very popular, well-liked politician, that can change when you run for president, though. oh, i like you, but i don't like you that way.
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>> shannon: friend zone. >> yeah, friend his own. it's hard to say. we do know that trump and biden hate each other. they have threatened each other, threatened to fight each other -- physically fight each other. two man and their 70s -- >> shannon: maybe that's how we should do debates now. >> a full rochambeau. i'm open to it. it would make your job as a moderator easier because you just blow the whistle. >> shannon: the uppercut! i would be a boxing collar. although i would really like to ask about this new study that says consuming bacon negatively affects your mental health. >> these are from people who want to take your bacon. anyone who is telling this, they are trying to steal your bacon. don't listen to. >> shannon: i knew you would be very anti-this study. i want to ask you about some polls from "cbs news." the president's handling of the semite with food. 68% of americans -- of republicans, who responded, say, i approve of how he did. >> overall, very bad marks, 32%. among republicans, 68 or
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percentage that i approve of the way he handled it. we have to remember that is not monolithic. part of that are the people -- we talked about it before -- i call them the gold star trump supporters because they are the people who backed trump in his feud with a gold star family during the 2016 election. 20 percent for the electorate that is withdrawn by they support him right or wrong, they are ultra all the way. >> shannon: 68%. >> there's the other portion to say, he apologized, i don't know where the line is -- okay, he fixed it, he didn't -- it's okay, let's move on, i want to talk about why democrats want to abolish i.c.e. party loyalty is an amazing thing. as i like to say, partisanship is like peach brandy, little of it makes life more interesting, too much of it and you with a hurting had an empty pockets. >> shannon: you don't feel that way about bacon? >> far from it. >> shannon: bacon and peach brandy? >> we need another study. >> shannon: i'm sure it's
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♪ >> shannon: today i sat on a secretary of state mike pompeo to talk about an historic meeting of religious persecution. the state department put together for next week. first, we had some other hot topics to discuss. >> shannon: mr. secretary, thank you for your time today. we are here to talk and historic meeting that you've gathered next week on persecuted religious minorities around the globe. first, i want to get to some news of the day. let's talk about russia. what do you make of the assessment, our president appeared weak standing
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next to president putin in helsinki and allegations by lawmakers that he must "have something" on our president for him to be acting this way? >> secretary pompeo: shannon, thank you for having me on today. i think those allegations are absurd. this administration has been relentless in its effort started her rush from its bad behavior. we inherited a situation where russia was running all over the united states. the last few days have been frankly, more heat than light. this administration has been strong in supporting the ukrainians. strong and making sure that we protect against russian expansion to other parts of the world. we all recognize that threat is real. president trump has been strong and protecting america from russian aggression. >> shannon: "the new york times" is reporting that the president was fully briefed a couple of weeks before the inauguration about meddling, presented compelling evidence about that. do you worry that he continues to equivocate on this issue of whether or not there has been russian meddling? >> secretary pompeo: i did have a chance to talk to the
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president about this over the last, goodness, you're in half now. the president consistently been briefed on this issue, he knows that the russians have interfered in our elections, he frankly understands that has been going on for an awfully long time. it wasn't just the 2016 election. somehow america seems to forget the history of russia's efforts to undermine western democracy for decades now. it gets confused because there are those who want to make a partisan case of it with respect to the mueller investigation. the president understands what russia did in our elections of 2016. he has empowered each of us to make sure that it doesn't happen again in the 2018 or 2020 elections here in the united states as well. >> shannon: looking at those things moving forward, the president was asked yesterday by the press corps whether he believes meddling is still ongoing. he responded, "thank you, no." the white house that he was saying no to further questions. do you believe russia still meddling in our elections? >> secretary pompeo: i have great confidence the russians will try to undermine western
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democracy in 2017, 2018, 2019, and for an awfully long time. it's our responsibility as leaders of united states government to do all we can to deter them from interfering with us, not only in our elections, but more broadly as well. >> shannon: the russian advisor to the u.s. is now saying that there were "important verbal agreements made in a private conversation between the president. can you tell anything about it? >> secretary pompeo: i'm not sure i will take the russian ambassador's word for a whole lot. from time to time, they are wanted to tell stories. here's what i know, i have had a chance to talk to president trump about his discussions with president putin. there was progress made on a handful of fronts, agreement to try to work more closely on counterterrorism. an effort to begin conversations around arms control, to prevent the spread of nuclear proliferation. there were lots of things discussed fact remains a great deal of work to do. the president accomplished a great deal of goals, which was to create a way which two leaders of these important countries get half positive, constructive conversations that surround is incredibly
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important issues. they will be lots of places are rhetorical countries interests and values diverge. president trump is deeply aware of that. >> shannon: any chances administration would entertain the idea of allowing putin or anyone from his team to have the ability to question or have physical custody of people like our former ambassador, mcfaul, or other dhs officials who have been investigating things that are not beneficial to the putin regime? >> secretary pompeo: none. >> shannon: let's talk north korea. tomorrow you had to be run -- >> secretary pompeo: i have to answer that question quickly. i watched the noise these last few days. [laughs] the president has been very resolute. he understands precisely who it is we are dealing within russia russia. he gets it. he is trying to take opportunities, places where we can work together and put america in a position to do the things he wants to do on behalf of the american people. >> shannon: north korea. tomorrow you had to view and have discussions about our conversations with them. what do you make of the reports
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and assessments that north korea has no intention at all of getting rid of their nuclear ambitions and program? >> secretary pompeo: no one has been closer to that than i have. everyone else is simply speculating about what is taking place today. i have been there. the north koreans have consistently reaffirmed their commitment, the commitment that chairman kim may do president trump. no one was under any illusion that this was going to happen in hours or days or even weeks. it's going to take time to achieve this outcome. we hope for a brighter future for the north korean people. if chairman kim continues to follow through on his commitment, the people of north korea will have a brighter future. >> shannon: let's talk about the historic meeting you put together, the ministerial level meeting addressing religious persecution around the globe. why was it important to do that? >> secretary pompeo: religious freedom is a fundamental human rights. the state department of the united states of america ought to be in the lead in promoting that religious freedom around the world. shannon, not every country has the religious freedom we have in the united states, individuals are punished for their beliefs,
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or frankly, the absence of their beliefs. we ought to promote that around the world. i want the united states and our state department to be front and center, talking about religious freedom. not every country will ditch the place we want but i'm confident that if we focus on this as part of american diplomacy, we can make religious freedom for individuals all across the world at least a little bit better. >> shannon: we have a case of the american pastor, andrew brunson, being held in turkey. yesterday, denied freedom, as with many are calling a sham trial, continuing. turkey is a nato ally of ours. what can we do in that situation? >> secretary pompeo: there's been an enormous work done by this administration to gain the release of pastor brunson. we have others held in turkey, other americans -- others who work for the united states, held in turkey today. we are working diligently on that case and frankly, every place an american is held. this is one example where religious freedom matters. we will have over 80 delegations
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at the state department and handful of days, 40 of my counterparts, foreign ministers, historic opportunity, the vice president will be speaking at the event. we believe we can increase the capacity for human dignity and religious freedom by gathering the nations of the world and working together to get outcomes so we can prevent situations just like them when the pastor brunson has experienced. >> shannon: do you think that they are -- humans are into our country is unique when it comes to the issue of religious freedom. how much do you think you can cut across those biases and other theocratic areas around the world where this is a real issue? life and death for many people. >> secretary pompeo: it is indeed life-and-death way that is why this ministerial gathering is so important. we are under no illusions. we don't think we will change each of these countries to become as religiously tolerant as the united states is. but we have seen this, every time we take an action to protect from anti-semitism or protect christian freedoms or others from across a broad range of religious faiths, every time we act in that way, gather the nations of the world to talk
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about why that matters to make their country better, we think it is real progress and we think, every little increase in religious freedom is better for the world. >> shannon: we wish you great success in that mission, secretary. >> secretary pompeo: wonderful to be with you. >> shannon: up next, reaction to my interview with secretary of state mike pompeo. our panel, doug schoen and guy benson, standing by and ready. plus, do most americans care about our relationship with russia? the answer might surprise you. stay tuned. ♪ are you done yet? does it look like i'm done? shouldn't you be at work? [ mockingly ] "shouldn't you be at work?" todd. hold on. [ engine revs ] arcade game: fist pump! your real bike's all fixed. man, you guys are good! well, we are the number-one motorcycle insurer in the country. -wait. you have a real motorcycle? and real insurance, with 24-hour customer support. arcade game: wipeout! oh! well... i retire as champion. game hog! champion.
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♪ >> shannon: secretary of state mike pompeo saying a short while ago here on "fox news @ night" that the last days there has been more heat than light. as our panel agreed? doug schoen and guy benson are here to debate. welcome, gentlemen. doug, i'll start with you. the secretary, he pushed back at a number of things with regards to how the president has been perceived following the helsinki summit. he obviously, someone who has deep roots in the intelligence community, was very much in the corner when it comes to the assessments of what is going on. >> that's right. i found the secretary's comments reassuring up to a point. we still don't know what the administration's strategy is, what was discussed about counterterrorism, or arms-control. we really don't need to know ws
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next summit is going to go, with all government on the same page. more importantly, shannon, giving me assertion about religious liberty, let's expand that to freedom, liberty, the nato alliance, our core principles, and article five of that covenant. that is what i want to hear. i say that as a patriotic american. not a partisan. >> shannon: i want to read something from a piece in "the new york times." an opinion piece. he's calling out both secretary pompeo and also ambassador bolton. "by continuing to serve the president, pompeo and bolton and their top aides are not, as they doubtlessly tell themselves in humiliating moments like this one, cleaning up after him. they are covering up for him. bolton and pompeo should be leading the conservative charge against the putin appeasers in office. they are effectively complicit with them." guy? >> what bret stephens prefer less competent, less conservative people in those situations if they were to step
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aside and join the resistance from the right? i'm not sure that is necessarily in the nation's best interest. calling into question their motives or soft justification for holding those very influential positions, i am not particularly interested in that. i do think that watching the interview that you did was secretary pompeo, he was clearly trying to tow the line, and walk the tightrope, he was backing up, trump, downplaying the criticism of him, while also reinforcing what the intelligence community has assessed over and over again. i think that he did a pretty agile job of that. >> shannon: let's talk about average americans at home and folks like my parents when i talk to them. i don't know how to enter this whole russia espionage and intrigue that they are this week. we have a poll that came out. right before the summit. the gallup poll met, people were asked to rank what they think are the most important issues, that they are concerned about, y want to hear about, it is way down the list.
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you have to scroll down to the bottom of this website that has economic issues, noneconomic issues, and near the bottom, you'll see our relationship, the situation with russia. and right next to it, you may see an asterisk. my reading of the poll was that came at less than 1%. they coded even find it on people's radars. doug, after the passing days, that may be different but there are a lot of other things that americans say they are worried about that how we are doing with russia. >> i, as you know, shannon, advised bill clinton for six years. i know all too well that white people vote on and evaluate a president on is basically the economy, economically, and are we at peace. on most metrics, we are doing pretty well. the problem for the president i is, if there is uncertainty of what we were trying to do, whatever posture is on russian intervention, on arms-control, as i was adjusting, and where we are heading, that only weakens his message and weakens
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his position overall. i think guy is right. secretary pompeo did a good job. the administration has got a lot more to do to project strength, certainty, and a path going forward, if we are to fully succeed and make the next summit and unquestioned and unrivaled success. >> shannon: guy, we get word from the white house that there will be an invitation for a second meeting with president putin. how do you think the white house may handle this one differently? >> i think they will hopefully learn from the most recent one. two quick points. one on pompeo. i thought his one-word answer to your question about the whole issue of whether the u.s. government would think about allowing russians access to diplomats or u.s. agents in any context, he said none. really, annunciated that word. that was the type of clarity that i was hoping to hear, that was the right answer. back to the gala poll you showed, i think there is a difference between asking people for your response, what is the
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most important issue for you going into the election, of course, people will say things like the economy or health care. but as that graphic scrolled down, right next to russia was abortion, which also came in at 0%. no one is going to argue that abortion is not an important issue too many people. that i think it is a separate question. people care about this, people care about the issue, it is just not top of mind when we are considering their vote for a that is how i read that. >> shannon: we did see that the economy -- two separate categories. the economy and jobs are at the top of the list. most of the folks responded there. doug and guy, great to see you tonight. >> thank you. >> shannon: where in the world is the goal? there is a sunken warship that potentially has 180 billion -- with a b -- billion dollars worth of gold and there is a race to claim it. there is a race to claim edge. around. ♪ hey, no big deal. you've got a good record and liberty mutual won't hold a grudge
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♪ >> shannon: tragic upgrade to a story about you earlier. the tour boat crash in branson, missouri. we are being told, a people are dead. several others hospitalized and off-duty sheriff deputies working security, able to help rescue some people. recovery efforts are ongoing, some passengers still unaccounted for. a dive team is now assisting. if we get more details, we'll
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let you know. ♪ time now for "where in the world." israeli intelligence officials say they thwarted a plot by a wrong to attack a june gatherint outside paris. they reportedly were part of germany, france, and belgium with critical intelligence about the attack which led to the arrest of a cell allegedly lettered by an iranian diplomat. a bodyguard to french president emmanuel macron is facing investigation after this video surfaced of him allegedly beating a student. currently under a two week suspension without pay. and a south korean company claims that it has discovered a sunken russian warship laden with gold, prompting an investor frenzy and triggering official warnings about potential investment losses. a salvage company is claiming the ship was carrying 200 tons of gold when it sank in 1905. that is possibly worth $180 billion. so to stake a claim to the gold, south korean government requires
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>> shannon: people were really getting into it, we love it. so grateful you spent the evening with us, good night from washington, i am shannon bream. ♪ ♪ evening andood welcome to "tucker carlson tonight," all week we have watched our leaders other countries to our democracy. for a national seek to influence our election, they have told ushe again and again and they are right, some countries do that. it's a fair point. with that in mind it was a little bit surreal to watch today as democratic politicians in california encouraged foreigw nationals to actually vote in our elections. it wasn't treason, how could it be? -- progressives are doing it. it's a form of civil rights. in san francisco, citizens of other countries, including illegal aliens, are now allowed to vote for scol


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