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it's that's all the time we have left this weekend. a busy newsweek, i promise you that. laura ingraham is coming up next. we hope you have a great weekend. we'll see you on monday. >> laura: hi, everyone, i'm laura ingraham and welcome to "the ingraham angle." we have a special show for you tonight, the first ever "the ingraham angle" town hall. last week i went to chicago to discover the reasons for the staggering levels of violence. violence destroying the south and west sides of the windy city. and i wanted to expose the city's impotent political response to it. so we spoke to victims, politicians, religious leaders, all of whom are on the ground. what they have to say is going to shock you. but these voices need to be heard. now we learned this week that chicago's democratic mayor realm emanuel will not be seeking a
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third term. one can only hope that a new mayor will bring peace and healing to a city in desperate need of both. here's our town hall from chicago. [ applause ] good evening, everyone, i'm laura ingraham and welcome to the first ever "the ingraham angle" town hall. now i'd like to thank the city of chicago and the audience for hosting us for an incredibly important discussion. chicago is one of the truly great american cities, spectacularly beautiful in the summer and winter. but in recent years gang violence has reached epidemic proportions and a level of violence that is unacceptable for anywhere in america. the city is on pace for more than 2,000 shootings this year which will mark the fifth straight year it's topped that grim mark. just so you get some
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perspective, since 2011, the year that rahm emanuel took office as mayor there have been over 4,000 murders in this city. that's more than the 34,481 killed in action from 2003 to 2010. and it's not just the level of violence in the city that's the problem, it's the lack of justice. according to an analysis conducted by the "washington post," chicago police have made an arrest in only about 27% of homicides since 2010. that's the lowest rate of any city the post examined. for nonfatal shootings it's even worse. the university of chicago crime lab tells us just 10% of shootings resulted in arrest in 2014 and by 2016, the latest year available, that number had dropped to just 5%.
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the unsolved crimes undoubtedly fuel a vicious cycle of distrust between law enforcement and community. and no one is immune from this violence. throughout the hour we're going to talk to members of law enforcement, community activists, religious and political leaders as well as members of the audience to try and figure out why this tragedy is unfolding in chicago and how to stop it. let's get started tonight with anthony napolitano, he's a form you police officer and the sole republican in the city council. martin priebe who is a member of the fraternal order of police. and -- anthony let's start with you. this is so both heart breaking and infouriating. we have a world of violence across the globe, heart breaking stories every day. but as americans, i can't
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imagine we find this level of violence in a city as spectacular as chicago with its rich history, acceptable. what do we do? >> the biggest problem i think right now in the city of chicago is they're not breaking it down into three groups of what is plaguing our city. it's you have an incredible amount of narcotics in the city of chicago. you have an enormous amount of guns on the street in 2018 alone, 5200 guns have been recovered. we have a sale of stolen merchandise, part of a criminal element on the street that is a multimillion dollar industry. it's not just gang bangers shooting each other is this this is a fight over territory and making money on the street right now. if you can't get to the street and say you got to stop the narcotics coming in in the boat loads and we have to get more of the guns off the streets then we have to realize that the criminal element is using the streets to sell stolen merchandise we're never going to
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get ahead of the problem. we're over the 2,000 mark of the people shot in chicago already. and 375 homicides. i always say can you imagine how many of them missed? >> laura: kevin, the police have had their hands full with the level of violence. but you see the number of murders solved, suspects arrested and it's a pretty small percentage compared to other cities as you saw in that analysis. why? >> there are a couple reasons. the first reason is, first of all we have had 2,025 shootings in this city as of today. first of all, it started -- it didn't start yesterday. it started several years ago when they decided to underfund and underman the police department. we have -- we are instilled -- still 1,000 police short.
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>> laura: wait, you're 1,000 police officers short in the city of chicago today? >> we only have half of the detectives we need. we used to have 2,000 detectives. >> laura: how many now? >> just about 1,000. >> laura: what is the reason for that? >> you're going to have to ask the mayor rahm emanuel for that answer. he closed three police stations and two detective areas. we didn't do that. we have always -- at the f.o.p. -- tried to interject our solutions to the problem but when it requires money we're shut out. our opinion doesn't count. that's part of the problem. and that is what has to change. we certainly want to go out there and do the job that we were hired to do. but because they have decided to have more police oversight and accepted the aclu and their long stop carts because they had decided that we're going to work 12 hour days and not allow
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people time off. that wears on police officers and that is what has contributed to the problems in this city. >> laura: let's go to melanie brown who prefers not to reveal her political party. welcome. >> thank you for having me. all right. so we know that all police aren't bad. you know, but when some of the police officers hurt or community, then we feel like some of the other police officers should try to help the community because they should care what the community thinks about the police department. so i just wonder what happened to the good cop/bad cop where there's one group of police officers we might be afraid of but the good cop, where they can share who did the murder, was there a crime or anything like that and we can get more crime solved for our community and help everyone. >> laura: going back to the issue of trust. trust between the community and law enforcement. law enforcement is supposed to
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keep people safe and when you call the police you want that level of trust and the police want you to trust them or they are not able to do their job either. martin? >> as the writer in the group i would answer that by pointing to one statistic. the city of chicago has paid over $700 million in police misconduct cases. and many, many of these cases these claims against the police are bogus. and they're used to push this narrative of police corruption that is quite often fraudulent and the city pays out on these and creates this industry of suing police officers that in turn lends itself to more police oversight. and even good police officers and i believe the overwhelming majority of them are good. i think when officers do something wrong it's generally a mistake. but all officers now in chicago face an absolutely ludicrous
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level of oversight and potential lawsuits and criminal charges by a prosecutor that is clearly anti-police. and so this is one of the reasons that the police are unable to do the kind of effective police work that they want to do. policing is an art. and the city is now set up in so many levels -- >> laura: give us some examples. let's say when you brandish your firearm for any particular reason do you have to write a report any time -- >> that's what they're trying to do. >> laura: that's what rahm emanuel wants. >> one of our officers, they were trying to find he had done something wrong. the f.o.p. dug our heels in and found out they were trying to hold secret investigations and not divulge the outcome to the officer which cleared him. they wanted to make sure that officers were found guilty.
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that's unacceptable. i don't care if it's a citizen, that there's a secret investigation going on or a police officer. people need to be treated fairly and police officers are not treated fairly. >> laura: you think it's the accusation against the police officer, they're presumed guilty? by the community. so there's distrust between the community -- police don't trust the accusations or no? >> it is the investigative body. all cases that involve shootings are sent to the -- to the federal -- to the fbi, and to the state's attorneys office for prosecution. >> laura: what we're getting at and it's painfully obvious, when you is 1,000 detective deficit on a police force could be a lot of things. is it money not allocated? is it the pay is not enough? is it demoralized police? is it too dangerous and people feel like for the risk i'm
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taking i'm not getting much of a benefit. why am i going to do this job in policing should be -- it is a noble profession but, anthony, you hear two police officers and they feel like oftentimes they feel like they can do no right but we have concerned citizens who say we need more of a collaboration here. got to be able to fix this. >> i was a police officer, myself. i worked the street. i worked in the 15th district in austin as a gang enforcement officer. i've done that job and built relationships on the street with other officers and there was an ability to work crime based on relationships. but in america police are becoming an enemy and the neighborhoods are closing their doors. snitches again stitches. >> laura: i've seen that t-shirt. >> there is a concept of thin blue line between officers and there's a code and that's not true. the thin blue line is the
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officers that will take a bullet for each other. in the neighborhoods nobody wants to talk about what they saw but it's a big element in the neighborhood where there is a lot of money being made on the street. you are hurting an enterprise on the street alone. >> laura: let's go to a republican with a question about federal involvement in chicago. reed? >> so my question for the panelist is whether or not they support president trump's previous calls if for national guard to be sent to chicago and if so, what would the national guard be able to do that local police cannot? >> laura: president trump mentioned the national guard in chicago and it's been thrown around before. talk. >> i certainly believe any time we have federal law enforcement agents they're welcome. and i certainly have nothing against federal troops and i'm sure that the president meant that. as trying to help the city. i think what we need to do is
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make sure that politicians realize that they have to spend the money to hire police officers, hire the right police officers, make sure they are trained. have a facility in which to train them and also be out there in the community. we've removed our foot officers through the -- most of the city and we -- >> laura: are they shutting down detective -- detective offices in these difficult neighborhoods, inglewood and so forth? >> they have closed some districts and whatnot. that has been the case. but, you know, i really couldn't say about the national guard, you know. >> laura: to me, it's like this is a local problem and for the most part has a local solution. >> i think it's a bit of a myth to say that there's complete distrust in communities from the police. a lot of people call us. they rely on us. they want us to help them. a lot of it is the gangs.
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most of the violence is gang violence. >> laura: 2400 offshoots of the gangs and among the most vicious in the country and in the world. thank you for your input tonight. one of the money running to turn chicago around is joining us next. l join us next. it's easy to think that all money managers are pretty much the same. but while some push high commission investment products, fisher investments avoids them. some advisers have hidden and layered fees. fisher investments never does. and while some advisers are happy to earn commissions from you whether you do well or not, fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. maybe that's why most of our clients come from other money managers. fisher investments. clearly better money management.
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disastrous results are impacting residents every day. chicago is about six months out from the mayoral election. we invited mayor rahm emanuel to attend the town hall. not only did he turn us down his office used fairly ugly language in their response to us. well, we think this issue is of critical importance even if the mayor's office does not and does not want to participate. but for more let's bring in jaymal greene who is running for mayor. leshawn ford, a democrat and member of illinois state house of representatives and depaul university professor jason hill. professor hill, i know you study these issues, seemingly retractable issues of a recurring cycle of violence. today, as you see things now, is there hope for this city?
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>> i think there is hope. but i think the hope lies in strong leadership. and i think the hope lies in a change in governance. i think we have an incompetent mayor who is recalcitrant. i think corruption and violence are part of the political dna of the city. >> laura: what does that mean, part of the political dna? >> chicago is the most corrupt city in the united states of america and has been for a long, long time and we have a mayor who assumed the mayorship and did nothing about it accept look the other way when bribes were being undertaken. and i think that a change of governance is really necessary. i think there are a couple of things that would make this city very, very difficult to attract businesses, for example, the high crime rate in the city is the number one issue that -- >> laura: businesses don't want
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to move in to south or west side because, look, too much of a risk? whole foods opened in inglewood and ran into a whole foods executive on the plane coming here. we opened up a store there, it's not easy. it's not easy being in business there but we did it. >> we have a population in the city with a high crime rate. >> laura: but it's overwhelmingly democrat. and representative ford. i think it's 83% of the city voted for hillary clinton in the last election and 12% voted in president trump. take the parties out of it for a second. it's like if you have a bad basketball coach who doesn't win, you kick them out and get a new one. why do we keep returning year after year after year to overwhelming liberal leadership in the city of chicago when it seems like it's obviously not
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working for the people who need the most help? >> that's a good question. i'm one vote and my people need help in chicago. black people need help if we want america to be the greatest it can be. we need stronger black leaders. we need a black mayor in chicago. there's no way we'll be able to deal with the issues in chicago until you have a mayor that really understands the critical issues impacting the people in chicago. the black issue is the number one issue in the city of chicago. and until we have a mayor in this city that understands how to remedy those problems and understands fairness and equity and attacks those problems we're going to continue to see problems like -- >> laura: i mean -- you're basically having saying it has to be a black mayor. that's wild thing to say. it could be an asian mayor that is able to heal wounds and get police together with community activists or black or white
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or -- >> i'm going to say we need a black mayor. i can't back down from that -- [applause] >> the last time we had a black mayor things were improving. white people are good and i want to work with white people. >> laura: i'm here and trying to figure it out. >> i have nothing against white people but what i do know is we have to work alongside blacks and whites. no one can really solve black people problems better than blacks. >> reporter: jaymal, it could be you. you're 26, 27? >> 23. >> laura: you have had your own issue running with the police. we don't have to go into it. it involved you getting into a dust up with a police officer and you pled down a misdemeanor. but you're the next-generation. you guys are going to have to solve this problem. what to do? >> you're exactly right. i'm from the communities and understand it.
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i saw people being shot in front of me hiding behind the bushes to hope that the gunman didn't see me. i experienced poverty, having to light candles because my mom couldn't pay the light bill and we need someone who has experienced these problems because we understand and have the passion to change when we get into these positions. these are the type of people that care, right, for all issues in the city of chicago and that's why i'm running for mayor. >> laura: so many young people leave their house in the morning not in the fancy areas of chicago, not in the rich suburbs so much but in the neighborhoods that are hurting the most, they don't know if they are coming home. i grew up in a town outside hartford, connecticut. i never worried about getting shot. didn't have a lot of money but didn't worry about getting shot. i don't think most people across
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the country can understand how that feels. until you live that, i think you're right, it's not a race thing but until you live that fear -- >> you will never understand it. >> laura: i can't put myself in your place. look, we might not agree on a lot of political issues but i like the fact you are getting involved here. we have a question from maize jackson, a political independent. >> my question is with violence out of control, with black unemployment the highest in the country, and with blacks leading -- last in the 16 economic indicators will the black community vote for rahm emanuel again? >> well, that's a good question. we saw that in a last election where overwhelmingly blacks voted for rahm emanuel and put him back in power. i think now, with the laquan
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mcdonald cover up and the cover up of a murder of a person shot 16 times. a lot of police reforms and people like attorney mad began stepping up with the consent decree. >> laura: the police are beleaguered too. if you have half the number of people trying to teach 2,000 kids in a public school or trying to be a detective on the street and you are outnumbered and sometimes outgunned. so rahm emanuel campaigns in the city, right? he goes down to these areas and walks these streets. you see him down there? >> no. the only thing he does -- >> laura: he wouldn't come here tonight. >> the only thing he does in the community is dances at cha festivals. >> laura: what is cha this?
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>> chicago housing authorities. >> laura: he takes pictures and dances. >> he was a ballet dancer. >> laura: good for him. >> we don't need another dancer. we need solutions on how to solve the problems and i don't think he can do it. >> i have written a book called we have overcome and i laid out some of the solutions for what i think are in the city. i think parts in the city have to be placed in military receivership. >> laura: you want uniformed military -- >> boots on the ground, national guard, the navy. >> laura: won't that make people feeling under siege. >> it will make them feel safer. >> laura: when we return, religious and civic leaders will join us with their plans to help save their city. don't go away.
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>> laura: welcome back to our town hall from chicago. this city's political class has utterly failed its citizens while crime threatens the future. what are the religious and civic groups doing that politicians apparently can't. joining us are cory brooks and ira acree along with a professor. it's great to see you here tonight. wonderful city. love coming here. always do. tough problems. reverend acree, tell us what your thoughts are. you have heard the conversation from the police perspective and the political perspective. we invited rahm emanuel to come. we really wanted him to come, wasn't going to be part of this. no other primetime show is in chicago doing this show by the way. >> i always say if a house is on
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fire, it's my responsibility to get out of the house. but it's the police -- the fire department's responsibility to put the fire out. not to come on the scene and lecture was somebody playing with matches, whose fault is it? there's a responsibility that the fire department must do and that's put out the fire and that's what we really need while all institutions must put all hands on deck we need the mayor to lead the way. in chicago we have a tale of two cities. we have economic disinvestment on the south side and the west side. on the north side you have economic boom. you have first-class schools on the south side and west side you have 50 schools that are closed. this anger is fuelled from the poverty and the disinvestment which ultimately leads to the violence. >> laura: it's a cycle, though, is it not, pastor brooks. when a community becomes dangerous, business doesn't want to go in.
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and if business doesn't go in, you don't have the opportunity, you don't have the stores. stores bring a sense of community as well. so with that cycle, which is very depressing to a lot of people, how does the faith community step in and say, there's another way? >> we have to do our part. we are constantly playing the blame game in our community blaming everyone for our situation. but we have to step up to the plate and stop waiting for someone to save the day for us. we have to start developing businesses and training individuals. we have to start making sure we have schools that are properly educating our children in our neighborhoods and then someone has to say to our parents we have to take responsibility for our children. we cannot allow our children to run rampant and unharnessed. we have to cover all bases and we cannot continue to blame anyone for those issues. we have to take advantage and start doing the things for
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ourselves. >> laura: personal responsibility. professor hardemann, the level of fatherlessness in our society at large crosses all economic spectrum and all racial background. it especially is difficult in chicago. and especially in the poorest neighborhoods. young men without role models, mothers doing their very best, working hard. they seek role models in the wrong places and the gangs are there to fulfill those roles. what about that, the family part of the equation. >> in the 1950s, 70% of african-american families had fathers in the household. black death is a hustle. every time there is a high level of shootings and homicides, you have community groups that need millions of dollars. with $130 million i can hire
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every black man in chicago for the next 30 years. black death is a hustle. the police have not been trained to stop killings on the front en. they are involved after the crime has been committed. >> laura: how would they do that? >> i propose training police in conflict resolution and gang remediation. i can train the police. i have a proven track record in the area of reducing shootings and homicides -- >> laura: you have had incredible success with your program, early intervention. a police officer cannot come in and fix a family situation. they can help on the margin though. >> i agree with you. it's incumbent on the black family to unify. you will not need a program if black people unify. it's incumbent on us to step up to the plate and save our city. we have a mass exodus of african-american people moving
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out of chicago because of the violence and because no one is stepping up because black death is a hustle. and we have to stop it today. >> but here's the thing. when you look at our community and you see a community struggling like our community is, you have some failure in multiple suing tos -- constitutio institutions. we have to have taxpayers have the responsibility and we must also get the services that the government is supposed to give. we must have that. when we look at the homicide rate is 17% for 2017 i'm convinced it's not an urgency for the administration when 83% of the people murdering people are still running the streets, that's a problem. we need to get the murderers off the street and that means increasing the capacity of the detectives unit. there is only 1100 detectives. in 1990 when we had 2,000 detectives -- >> laura: this is a 911
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emergency. so it's now a third basically of what it was. >> but the mayor has a strategic plan of gentrification. the homicide rate is 83%. as long as -- 83% of the people are still free that commit murders. you are still going to have black people from the south side and west side running out of town. people downtown and on the north side are still going to be safe. it's a strategic plan of gentrification by the administration. >> laura: that is quite a charge. i mean, i wish the mayor were here to respond to that. hold on one second. nicole vaughn who is a democrat has a question for us. nicole? >> so in effort to cure violence in chicago why isn't economic development a priority particularly in underserved community? >> well, part of it -- if we keep doing the same thing over and over in our community, everybody's voting democrat and
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you will think if the same individuals are not creating economic development in your community you think we would start to look in other places. until we start to diversify how we view politically ourselves we will get the same thing all the time. >> laura: it's not working. i think -- i think the question about economic development is a great one. again, going back to the primary problem that we came here to discuss tonight, if the streets are unsafe, if people are afraid to walk out on the street, you're not going to get big businesses moving in to have those good-paying jobs to keep young men and women feeling like there is another way except to join a gang. it's a cycle -- a nightmarish cycle without safety. all of you, thank you so much. up next, fox news political analyst investigates some of the worst affected areas of the city
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ravaged by violence. he'll be there. don't miss it.
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>> laura: welcome back to this "the ingraham angle" town hall, chicago's violence is hitting close to home for fox news political analyst gianno caldwell who has watched in dismay as violence increasingly plagues his native city. and this week gianno asked
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residents how the mayhem is affecting their daily lives. >> it's the trenches right here. it go down right here, [ bleep ]. it go down. >> you have been shot how many times? >> two times, bro. caught me right there, bro, you feel me. >> reporte . >> laura: joining us islikelike and vic maggio who is a citizen journalist. gianno, you are from here and you are infuriated. i'm getting more and more angry as we've gone on in this town hall. but we have to channel this to answers and solutions. >> absolutely. >> laura: if there is one thing that cowl change and the worst affected neighborhoods to make a real difference what would it be? >> first, two things, i want to thank you for bringing the show to chicago and doing this town
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hall. i know your heart and this is something you care about and isn't political. i thank you for that. the second thing, this is about solutions and we need to have an open dialogue. there was a guest in the first block who said there is a myth about distrust between police and community. that is a false narrative. but in terms of this, your question, if there's one thing that can change, there's always going to end up with jobs and opportunity. and as i interviewed a number of the residents in the city of chicago they yelled that there are so many married to the life because they have no exposure to anything else. there is no path to get there. and that is something that needs to be worked on sincerely. >> when i realized how bad the problem was when i started going in the streets i was at a stop sign and a boy was sitting with
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his mother and i waved to the man and started playing with the radio and when i looked at him and he did this to me at 5 years old and i realized how deep the problem really was and the next question i had was who taught him that? >> laura: that's powerful and laquan mcdonald, it's that narrative and that means it's the whole relationship and that subsumes everything else. in what can be a really positive and necessary relationship between community and law enforcement. >> and it goes back to -- >> that gave way -- >> way back. >> but there has to be honesty when we're having these dialogues. i know you are advocating for president trump to come in and do a town hall. he doesn't have to come here. he can just bring the solutions. that's what we're looking for. but you need help. you need mental health services.
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i think maize jackson pointed out that unemployment rate for african-americans in the state of illinois is the highest in the country. if you are between the ages of 18 and 24, 42% of you are unemployed and out of school in a booming economy. the numbers are very -- >> laura: the lowest african-american unemployment on record. >> nationally. >> not for chicago. >> for the state of illinois is different and obviously in the city of chicago. >> laura: you found out more in your reporting. >> we went all across the city of chicago where the violence is at its highest and we heard interesting things from the gang members in the community perpetrating the violence. >> you be out here doing all this and -- >> as far as running up, going to get this and going to get
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that. >> got shot. almost died three or four times, man. >> ain't no jobs out here. people going to do what they need to do to survive. drugs and this is life. you have people who want to change and people who want to stay on the streets. the people trying to change it, they are not used to a legit life. like me. i'm trying to change but i'm not used to a legit life. this is what i'm used to, selling drugs. >> if someone would give you a job, would you get out of the life. if you get a job you would get out of the life? you would no longer be involved in the gang? 100%. on live national television you say you would get out of the gang. >> i would. >> we're going to make it happen. >> laura: well, it's -- i mean, to see those young men, i
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mean -- i mean -- vic, the hope is there. i mean, everyone here tonight could be anywhere. they decided to come and watch the show and chew over ideas, frustration, solutions. but there is a desire for a better way. >> he demonstrated that in the last clip. he said if you give me a job and opportunity i will leave the life. charles said he will hire him. this guy you saw in that last piece. i think that speaks to if you bring the resources to the doorstep, a lot of people will take them. >> laura: you is to show up at a job with a sense of yourself, you have to put yourself together. you have to have skills. basic skills you learn in school or from your parents. it can't just show up and say -- you have to show up and want a job and get the proper training to do that.
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it's a great sense of fulfillment to get your first paycheck. even if it's not as much as you want and it's legitimate. who wants to be in a gang? >> you know what built these neighborhoods in chicago? major corporations. >> laura: industry. >> that built the structure. when you go into these neighborhoods today you see vast swaths of land empty. empty. why this mayor is not incentivizing businesses to come back here to rebuild. give them the proper tools to rebuild the communities and everything else will fall around the industries that come into the communities. property values will go up. what's happened is the industries left and the opposite -- when they built -- >> laura: the tax base is gone. >> the economy in the neighborhoods are desolate. >> it's not just the government solution. but there's a deficit of personal responsibility.
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and i met a man yesterday, tyrone muhammed who has a group of 300 ex-cons to stop the violence. we have to take advantage of the opportunities that exist in the community and we need to exercise what we have to -- >> laura: a strong righteous man can do a lot to inspire young, dejected, disoriented young men. one righteous man. and i bet you talk to these guys like, hey, he looks pretty cool. >> i came from the neighborhood of important. >> laura: but you came and succeeded because you worked hard. >> my grandfather exposed me to different things. >> laura: a father figure. >> your individual choice. that's what it comes down to. >> laura: fantastic. vic, great to meet you and great to see you. one of the most horrific acts of gang violence today.
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>> laura: . >> laura: we've talked a lot tonight about the causes of and potential solutions to chicago's violence but we want to hear directly from a family member who has been deeply impacted by
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the mayhem. even by chicago standards the death of 15-year-old demetrius griffin jr. was beyond comprehension. demetrius was murdered in 2016 and a gang tried to recruit him. police say that demetrius was burned alive. his remains discovered in a 55-gallon drum in an alley. demetrius's aunt joins us now. thank you for being here. i know this is so hard and some of his friends and family is here tonight. how is polly, his mom, doing? >> basically, she's distraught. she's basically not functioning. that was her only son. that was my only nephew. he was 15 years old. there was nothing that he could have done to anyone that would want someone to do that to him.
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he was about 4 foot 7 in height and about 97 pounds. they burned him alive in a garbage can. he wasn't in a gang. he didn't do drugs. what is it that he could have done so bad that a monster would take his life like that, and two blocks from his home. we have to pass that block every time we visit my mom. i can't go into the house without hearing him saying tete, i did this or did that. he was looking so forward to high school. he only did two weeks of high school. he wanted to be on the swim team. he loved dogs. he loved animals. why would you do that? why would you burn someone alive and then why is there such a code of silence that you did not hear him hollering for help and did nothing? >> laura: no one saw anything?
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>> no one -- >> laura: no one said they saw anything? >> well, yeah. >> laura: no leads in this case at all? >> no leads. >> laura: he's another statistic in the outrageous clearance rate in the city, meaning people not apprehended, not prosecuted, not jailed. >> no suspects, nothing. >> laura: i am -- i mean, my heart breaks for you, for polly and all of his friends, school mates. again, until -- you can't put yourself in a mother's place who has to go this in america. >> and we did fundraising and are still doing fundraising. we raised $10,000 as well as an outraged citizen and people in the area, $10,000. two years, $10,000, nothing. >> laura: give me a hug.
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>> thank you so much. thank you so much. >> laura: i'm so sorry. >> it's just that we have to protect our children. and if we have people that are leading our city not concerned with protection of our children, then where do we stand as a people? >> laura: you need new leadership in the city. >> we do. >> laura: it's not democrat -- it's someone who knows how to run the city. >> for three days straight we dialled 311 to get some acknowledgment, the superintendent, we reached out -- >> laura: the mayor call you? >> we have not heard from neither of them yet. >> laura: is that acceptable to any of you? >> no. >> not yet -- >> laura: a boy is burned alive and left in a 55-gallon drum and
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no one from city hall picks up the phone and says we are going to find who did this? >> we got a resolution -- >> laura: a resolution. >> 16 months later. >> laura: that's helpful. >> not anything. we did not receive -- nothing. >> laura: your story, as horrific as it is, is repeated -- not the details or same level of suffering, thousands of times and this has got to stop. thank you for being here tonight and sharing your story. final thoughts when we come back. [applause]
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>>before we go, >> before we go we a huge thank you to the participants in this townhall and the chicago community for welcoming us and we hope we did something to get closer to some resolution. discussions like this are just the start. we need more of them. we need more trust and cooperation and we have to do some self reflecting along the way. the story does not end for us
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here. we will continue to highlight the violence ravaging one of america's great cities, the heroes who are trying to stop it and the innovators who are coming up with solutions. on behalf of the entire ingram angle crew, i or ingrid. good night from chicago. [applause] todd: 1 to fox news at night, and outright battle between former president obama and his successor, donald trump. he is back and unloaded a scathing tweet on the current president, the republican party and donald trump's supporters, the president responding by pointing to the economy. his message will resonate more effectively with voters as we march into the mix terms 60 days to go. you won't want to miss juan williams and jason chaffetz. who said was in this clash of titans.


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