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the tech sector and internet sectors leading it down for this afternoon. in addition, energy companies are off. dow reached -- oil reached a month's long low, which could mean in the weeks ahead you'll see lower prices at the pumps. for now, i'm shepard smith. fox news new york. [chanting]. >> neil: protesters clashing outside as broward county officials count the ballots inside. now the fight over recounts is heading to court. welcome, everybody. i'm neil cavuto. you thought the election was over, right? not so fast. a state court in southern florida now ground zero in a lawsuit filed against broward county supervisor of elections, brenda snipes. the lawsuit filed by the republican governor and senate candidate rick scott.
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demanding snipes turn over key election documents in the florida senate race where razor thin and we mean super razor thin margin senates the governor and the incumbent democratic senator bill nelson. phil keating with the latest. hi, phil. >> hi, neil. no election in florida comes easy. oftentimes not flawless. election lawsuits no stranger either. just right now up in ft. lauderdale, a hearing has wrapped or soon will. this was an emergency hearing to deal with the governor's lawsuit he filed lawsuit last night alleging rampant fraud in the broward county elections department over the way they have been handling these provisional and mail-in ballots in the days after the election. the canvassing board met about 1:00 this afternoon in broward county as well as well as another county around the state. that is the way it works.
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canvassing boards at the elections office go over the provisional ballots and the mail-in ballots in the days after election tuesday just to compare signatures, rule some in, rule some out. and discard votes or add votes to the running unofficial total. not the case outside of that elections department today. quite raucous. more than 100 people protested. republicans and democrats each accusing the other of trying to steal the election. >> we ran 22 sites, run 14 days, we ran 12 hours. we had a big vote by mail. so don't try to turn it around to make it seem like i'm making comedy out of this. >> this is incompetence. that is clearly true. but also be naive to not realize that they can overrule the will
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of the voters in florida. >> florida's hotly contested senate race between rick scott, the governor and bill nelson shows a different of 15,000 votes. that's .18 of 1% destined for a recount. the latest numbers in the governor's race show ron desantis' now down to 36,000 votes over tallahassee mayor andrew gillum. that is .44% also in recount territory. state law dictates any election in florida where the margin of victory is under a half a percent automatically gets machine recounted. it takes the secretary of state to order it and expected to do that tomorrow afternoon in tallahassee. neil? >> neil: so could be a machine recount. >> first a machine recount. every count has five days to get the results in. if it's under 25.25% at that point, hand recount.
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>> neil: amazing. wow. >> and the senate race could be. the senate race right now is so close it would caqualify for a hand review. >> neil: thanks. join us for "cavuto live" as they go through what could be a long and extended recount. now we have gail prada joining us, attorney. the process could take how long? let's say you do a machine recount. you do it across the state then, right? every single county, jurisdiction, right? >> that's right. it could take weeks. we saw this happen in 2000 with the presidential election. particularly when you see the process itself is being flouted and the rules being ignored. so as we go forward, if they continue to ignore the very specific rules that are designed to promote voter integrity and
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to make sure that the casts are -- the votes are cast and tabulated in a fair process where both candidates can understand the process and have updates, then you can see that this will be dragged out. we've had lawsuits filed and as soon as the courts get involved in this as well, it also has the possibility of extending things further than they should be extended. >> neil: gail, i remember with the gore-bush, bush-gore recount, there was criticism about certain counties getting recounts and others not. and retrospect, the gore folks errored by focusing on palm beach counties, broward county. the same democrat counties here. but the scott folks said we don't know the universe we're looking at here. we don't know how many ballots right or left we're talking about, right? >> right. every american should be
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concerned about that. if you don't know how many ballots they are going through and tabulating, then you can add ballots and we've seen through the history of elections in this county, the recent history, there's been a lot of problems, a lot of lawsuits, there's been sanctions against broward county for irregularities for violating the law. we saw news reports this week there was an entire lock box fox with provisional ballots. if highest importance of a board of supervisors or elections to make sure that they are able to conduct elections in a fair manner. this is not the case in this situation. rick scott is rightfully challenging this in court the make sure that the votes of all floridians are respected because if this process is not in accordance with law, then you're disenfranchising eligible voters. >> neil: now, if there's a statewide recount, republican
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counties, democratic counties, counting all military ballots, absentee ballots, is it your understanding that that would satisfy the governor, satisfy democrats as well that if it is going to be a full recount, it's a full recount of everything from everywhere? >> think of how expensive that is. that is putting public -- >> neil: isn't that automatic? i was under the impression it was when it got under a half a percent. >> right. shouldn't have been. rick scott was ahead by 55,000 votes tuesday. as we continue to have these votes come in that were not -- the florida law required that the total number of votes be released by 30 minutes after the day of the election when the polls were closed. so that wouldn't have been the case. now -- >> neil: we don't know the total number of votes. that is -- >> correct. >> neil: understood. >> all right, gail. thank you very much.
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we'll still stay on top of this. recounts going on in a number of other states and what will be a fresh count going on in particularly states where it was close to begin with. arizona and georgia comes to mind. more on that in a second. the big development today, not just the sell-off but the idea that energy prices are collapsing, oil is collapsing. the flip side of that means that if oil is in a bear market, down 20% or more, that means you will soon be paying less at the pump and less for heating oil this winter and that frees up more of your dough for other things like christmas shopping, that sort of thing. fbn's ashley webster on the implications of that. >> hi, neil. the markets are very skittish place these days. we have factors on the markets and the psyche of the investors. one is a dramatic fall in oil prices. the price of crude has fallen to ten consecutive sessions.
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it hasn't done that since 1984. since hitting highs last month, oil prices have fallen 20%. meaning it's now in bear territory. the u.s. is pumping more oil these days, but it does raise concerns that the global economy is struggling and demand for crude is falling. that is a negative. we also learned today that wholesale prices in the u.s. jumped by the most in six years last month led by higher prices with gas although they're falling and also higher prices for food and chemicals. that leads to questions about the fed. we know the fed will likely raise rates next month and possibly three times next year. when higher producer prices are out there, that creates worries about inflation and even more fed intervention. on on the of all of this, there's growing concern about the health of the chinese economy. the second biggest in the world. for instance, the latest data suggests auto sales in china fell some 12% in october as
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compared to a year ago and now the chinese government is taking steps to boost bank lending to the private sector. all of this an off shoot of the trade war its having with the united states. so you put all of this together, there are reasons that investors are cautious. don't forget, of course, we have the big post mid-term election rally. everybody was cheering, a gridlock congress, lawmakers can't hurt us. guess what, neil? the euphoria is wearing off. >> neil: incredible. a moody bunch, the investors. >> indeed. >> neil: we're going to be up on those developments and implications tomorrow live when we'll be here from 10:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. following the developments. we're also going to be paying attention to what is happening as we speak right now. the president will be landing on air force one in paris. of course, looking back 100 years at world war i, the war that was supposed to end all
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the #1 prescribed fda-approved oral combination treatment for hr+/her2- mbc. >> neil: all right. we are told president trump and the first lady, melania trump, have landed in paris to commemorate the anniversary for the end of world war i. the president will meet with emmanuel macron. john roberts has more. >> good evening from paris, where it's just about a little after 10:00 p.m. the president just touched down at the airport a short time ago and will be making his way to paris. he's here for the commemoration of the 100th anniversary of the armistice that ended the wore of all wars, but just set the stage for world war ii. 117,000 americans perished in
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world war i fighting here in europe. 5.7 million allies that died. the president will be paying his respects to those that fought and died when he participates in ceremonies at two american cemeteries. one just outside of paris and one here northeast of the city. the one in the northeast part of paris, which is on a hill that overlooks downtown paris, is a beautiful, beautiful location. as he was departing the white house, the president said that he's looking forward to the weekend. listen here. >> it should be a very beautiful period of time. the 100th anniversary of the ending of world war i. we have many countries, the leadership of many countries that will be there, especially since they heard the united states will be there. we look forward to that. it will be a great commemorative service. i think it's going to be
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something special. >> yeah, there will be dozens of leaders here including vladimir putin. the president said it's likely that he would meet vladimir putin on the sidelines of the commemoration this weekend, the national security adviser john bolton said the same thing. seemed to be more definitive of it happening. so now they said there's not enough time and the president postponed it. most likely he will meet in the g-20. he will be meeting withme president macron of france. he's lashing out at some factions of the european union. he sawed without a doubt, europe is too ultra liberal. we must have a europe that can defend itself on its own without relying on the united states. the president about to disembark
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there from air force one. neil? >> neil: thanks, john. the read on these developments including a number at the united nations, karen pierce, the u.k. ambassador do the u.n. if you have not heard this woman in action, i urge you to record it. she is just a sight to be hold on the floor of the u.n. grad to have you here. >> thanks for having me. >> neil: these are serious, austere events recognizing the end of world war i but they bring all the powers together and to try to maybe think about the risk you take going too far. how do you think this weekend goes for this president, for all the major european leaders? >> you're absolutely right to talk about bringing people together. first and foremost, an opportunity to say thank you, thank you to all of those soldiers from all of our
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countries that served and gave their lives. it's an opportunity for europe to say thank you to the united states for sending its soldiers to help and an opportunity for reconciliation above all with germany as the enemy that most people think of, but now look where we are with relations with germany. that's a really important reconciliation lesson for all of those other countries involved in conflict around the world to look and see how trans atlanticly we have managed to put that relationship back together. >> neil: you think about germany ending a war in the beginning 100 years ago and going back into wore a little more than 20 years later. i'm wondering your sense of lessons learned from experienced like that and whether -- what is that old line? history doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes. >> or repeats itself once there's tragedy.
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i think the biggest lesson on that from the first world war is that although it was understandable, countries wanted to punish germany for what she has done. the thoughts of harsh fishment meet, they meet it out economically, produced the crisis in germany that had its culmination in hitler and the second world war. that recognition has guided a lot of the way europe has run its affairs, always being magnanimous in victory in which churchill said and has stood the test of time. >> we talked during the break about the changes in europe. angela merkel, the longest serving western leader that will be going. we don't know when. there's a battle to replace her within her party. but she has been, as you touched on a number of times, very tough in the face of vladimir putin. saying we can't let our guard down, et cetera.
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by the same token, scoring large business deals, natural gas deals with the russians, this president, trump has said sends mixed messages what do you make of the back and forth on that? >> there's always a danger when economic interests loom so large in a contest if you like in europe between the e.u. and russia. some find an individual's set of national interests are going to win out over the collective need to stand firm against russia.on the security side, all of europe has been very united in pushing back on russia. they were very supportive as was the president when the u.k. took measures to expel russian diplomats because of the poisons in salisbury and they have been very united bring sanctions against rodriguez and reuniting astonia against russian aggression.
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so on the security side, we have a firm set of principles and cooperation. always on the economic side, yes, sometimes national interests creep out in front and we need to guard against that. it's only by being united and determined that russia will be deterred. >> neil: we're still facing trade frictions, some of the trade impasses with some countries in the united states, not so much with china and the united states. obviously, you know, your country a lot of european partners are worried it will turn into a global trade war. the president descends on air force one. the president says we will solve this and we will be better for it. do you believe that? >> i had a pleasure of talking to the president about trade. he clearly knows a lot about it. he has a lot of the figures in his head. he doesn't like cheats in the international system. i think we agree with him on
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that. but in britain, we like to think of ourselves as free traders. it's always been important to britain, it was in the 19th century and still is in the 21st century. we like to fight back against protectionism. we hope the g-20 meeting that the president will go to, we hope that they can take more steps against protectionism. it's not to say we don't agree organizations like the world trade organization don't need to be reforming to reflect the modern economy, but we want to raise that standard for free trade. it matters to us all. >> neil: we're watching the president arrive in paris. things have changed in less than two years he's been president. he was an unpopular figure in europe when he came. in he was a globally devicive figure but certainly more popular than his european counter parts, emmanuel macron whose approval rating is in the
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mid 20s. i'm wondering what you make of that and what europe makes of this president who had one of the most successful economies on earth and firing on all cylinders. do they credit him, look at the mid-terms as a split read on american power and who has it? what? >> it's fair to say that europe doesn't always understand america as well as it might. the converse might be true. but because -- >> neil: you can say that about britain. >> we think of ourselves as a special friend of america and think of america as a special friend to britain not just because of the world wars but because of all the security cooperation we've had. the american economy is a very important beacon in the world. >> neil: still a little friction, right? i didn't mean to interrupt you. i don't see you tweeting much, by the way. i thought -- >> i tweet a bit. not as much as the president. >> neil: the reason why i
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mentioned that, the president apparently angry at president macron of france and suggested talking about him, that europe built its own military to protect itself from the u.s., china and russia. very insulting. this is coming from the president. but perhaps europe should pay its fair share of nato which the u.s. subsidizes greatly. >> this is a debate in europe for quite a while. for us, nato is the cornerstone of the trans atlantic alliance and the trans atlantic defense. we're very grateful to america but as britain, we pay our share and pay over 2% -- >> neil: apparently france is not. whatever macron has said in addition is not sitting well with the president. >> i can imagine it will be the subject of some quite intense debate. the president has raised this issue before. we join him and encouraging our
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allies to meet that 2% defense spending target. i think more important point and particularly referring to the point about reconciliation after the first world war, these meetings bring leaders together. they show why western liberal democracies lead to open, thriving societies. i think it's very important that other countries around the world see that. we use it to sort out any differences we may have. we need to push back against the more aggressive russia and assertive china and i don't think anyone disagrees with the president on those two things. >> neil: your american counterpart, nikki haley will be leaving by the end of the year. without giving or expressing a bias, the names you might have heard mention, is it the type of person that you want to see in that job? >> well, first, i just want to pay tribute to ambassador haley.
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she's been a terrific representative for the american people. also a very good friend to me. she's a very gracious, generous warm person. she's been fantastically effective particularly on sanctions against dprk, north korea. she has some of the toughest sanctions the security council has ever seen and basically this is the security council lining up behind american policy, behind the president, showing what it can do when they're united. so in nikki haley, she's brought out the best of the security council. we will work with any counter part the president chooses to send to the united nations to replace ambassador haley. but obviously i would hope that she would be follow bad a success f successful person. >> neil: a woman? >> always nice to have another woman. >> neil: and the united nations will be taking up these issues ahead of the g-20.
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certainly we're live again. meantime, taking a look at what the president has set the stage for, what was supposed to be sort of a century look back, but already a brewing battle with the president of france with whom he has a very big disagreement, particularly when it comes to defense spending. more after this. hi, my name is sam davis and i'm going to tell you about exciting plans available to anyone with medicare. many plans provide
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>> it's bigger than me, bigger than nancy pelosi. it's about the long-term agenda. >> neil: someone is going to challenge her, right? >> i hope so. i hope somebody does. it important for us to have that competition. >> neil: have any of these requested you, congressman, ryan, take her on again? >> we're getting a lot of phone calls and a lot of us are talking. you know, i think it's important, as i said, i don't have any intention on doing this at this point. >> neil: at this point. but two years ago when he did challenge nancy pelosi for leader of the democrats of the house, he got 63 votes, which raised a lot of eyebrows and might have greased the skids for
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challengers her again with bigger and better results. we shall see. chad pergram with what is at stake. what are your thoughts? >> right now you can't beat somebody with nobody. there's no challengers to nancy pelosi to be the speaker of the house. it's clear she has a majority of her caucus. here's how the process works. when you're going to be elected speaker of the house, you have to have an outright majority of all of those casting ballots on the floor. 435 members. you need 218. here's the problem. there's a number of democrats, incumbent democrats that say they can't support her. incoming freshmen democrats that say they can't support here. so how does she get to 218. sometimes people are absent. they're not sworn in and sometimes they vote present. what does nancy pelosi do to try to persuade these members to vote yes? when her day was the mayor of baltimore and she was a little
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girl, she was in charge of a favor file to help get him votes on different issues and help reward people that assists her father. here's another little story. in 2008, walt minnic, a republican from idaho. he intended to vote present on the floor. not vote yes for pelosi or no, vote present. he and pelosi speak the day of the vote. she said that would harm my speakership. and walt voted for nancy pelosi and they held that against him and he thinkses that one of the reasons that he lost re-election in 2010. so if you have these freshmen coming in and they're on the record saying i can't vote for nancy pelosi and the very first ballot they cast is for nancy pelosi, the ad writes itself for the republicans in 2020. >> neil: amazing stuff. thanks very much.
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>> thank you. >> neil: chad pergram. a lot going on in florida. we're back to 2000. i don't know what the fashions were then, but we're back to 2000. i'll explain. snacking can mean that pieces get stuck under mike's denture. but super poligrip gives him a tight seal. to help block out food particles. so he can enjoy the game. super poligrip.
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>> neil: they're counting ballots again in florida again. it's going to go on a long time again. the lawsuits are starting. deidra bolton looking at the numbers again. >> yes. leave it to the sunshine state. we'll show you what's going on in broward county. of course, you have nelson versus scott in the sunshine state. two of the highest profile races. the senate race obviously in the state. look as if they could go to a recount. so broward county. there it is front and center. you can see the numbers and how close it is there. governor scott's campaign and the republican candidate for the
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florida state alleging that there could be rampant fraud and accused democrats of trying to steal the election. governor scott's campaign and the national republican senatorial committee filing the two lawsuits. there was breaking news just moments ago in governor scott's favor. but against broward county and the other one against the supervisor of elections in palm beach county. so these lawsuits alleging that the supervisors have not been transparent either about the collection of the votes or about the vote count in violation of florida law. right now governor rick scott in the lead. they're leading senator bill nelson. as we know, it's very close and we do not know, for example, if there will be recounts starting saturday. same kind of situation at risk here as far as this race goes, we know that the ap has called the race for desantis. this is close within about
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35,000 votes. of course, we do know desantis ahead of the tallahassee mayor, andrew gillum. that is the state of florida. we also continue to watch the great state of arizona as well. close there as well, neil. you know, arizona kirsten sinema now ahead of mcsally by a mere 2,000 votes. a lot to keep following. the races are not over. >> neil: no, they're not to put it mildly. thanks very much. so looking at this broward county ballot, how could this happen? especially in a state where they want things simple. it's not very simple. we'll show you the details in just a second. supervisor, very good to have you joining us. >> hi, neil. how are you doing? >> neil: do we have confusion running rampant here? a lot of people were telling me, some of these counties, broward,
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palm beach, that the ballots went on and on and own. both parties write off on it. they only have themselves to blame if they're complaining now. but that a lot of people were confused. is that a fair assessment? >> well, any time you have long list of amendments and exacerbated in broward county but they have to do ballots in english, spanish and haitian makes their ballots extra long. any time you have that number of complicated amendments, it can cause problems in the voting booth. usually results in longer lines at the polls. people take more times to digest what they're reading in the voting booth. >> i know the governor just wants to be aware of the universe of ballots we're looking at here. that some seem to materialize out of nowhere. so some suspicions that ballots
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were popping up out of thin air. can you address that? >> not at this time, neil. i'm not in broward county. i'm the farthest away from broward county as you can get. i really can't comment -- >> neil: something like that regardless -- i understand there's legalities here, sir. but in a full statewide recount, wouldn't suspicions like that be addressed? you'd be recounting everything. >> we have been inundated with requests from media and from everywhere else. if these ballots are ballots issued as part of a request for a mail ballot, we're all getting requests for copies of the database and who has asked for ballots and stuff like that. probably just for the reason of cross-checking stuff like this. >> neil: so do we know -- i'm
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talking statewide -- all military ballots, all absentee ballots have been counted or is that part of the process as well? whether it's palm beach or broward or dade county and further points in the panhandle, that they're all being processed now, they're all -- if there's a recount, they all go through the same process? >> so example in my county, we have the largest air force base in the world, special operations command, navy, coast guard station. we have all five service branches here a lot of military ballots. the deadline for military ballots for people not overseas was 7:00 p.m. on election night. that allows to all 67 counties in florida equally. what we're still waiting on and can still tabulate is the ballots from overseas voters.
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there's still ballots to be atted for the military folks overseas or who send them in in time. we give them an extra ten days to arrive. so yes, there's still military votes that count. the lions share of the ballots have been counted in florida. i looked at the state website a few hours ago. looking for the checks marks and the columns to say which states are reported as complete. broward is the only one still outstanding, perhaps palm beach. >> neil: back to the military you alluded to, is it possible that they run into the thousands of untabulated ballots? >> well, i mean, in two days -- when we did our provisional ballots last night, my canvasses here, we processed the military overseas ballots on hand. even with the large number of military voters that i have that number only came up to 16 for the two days since the election.
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>> neil: 16 what? >> 16 ballots that we counted from overseas military. >> neil: is it fair to say there's potentially more than that that have not been tabulated? >> i can tell you, this was a real point of contention. i worked in the elections office in 2000. we had almost 200 military ballots that were being counted on that tenth day after the election in 2000. we had lawyers from all over the place, we had lawsuits about it. because we had 200 ballots nearly in a race that was divided by 525 votes. so of course everyone was interested then. you know, some of the races are that close. the commissioner of agriculture race is tight. if not almost a dead heat. of course, the senate race has slipped from almost barely being recounted to almost hitting the threshold for the manual recount.
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>> neil: fascinating. thanks very much. you can appreciate from what paul is saying here that it is a herculean process and there's no way to know the universe of available ballots to count. just that the back and forth continues as do the protests. it's florida. 18 years later. today, 97% of employers agree that skills like teamwork, attention to detail, and customer service are critical to business success. the kind of skills, that work for you. billions of problems. dry mouth? parched mouth? cotton mouth? there's a therabreath for you. therabreath oral rinse and lozenges. help relieve dry mouth using natural enzymes to soothe and moisturize. so you can... breathe easy, there's therabreath at walmart.
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>> neil: all right. a settlement has been announced in democrats and republicans in arizona. the two candidates there are separated merely by a few
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hundred votes. they have until wednesday to go through every single vote and sort out who ultimately won that senate race. in florida, the back and forth continues. my next guest has choreographed all of this discord going on for the dichotomy of leadership. these two former navy seals certainly have the right environment for all of that. elise, great to have you here. >> thanks for having me on, neil. >> you both write about being proactive and i'm simplifying it here. it's hard to do that when you don't know how, for example, some of the key contests are going to sort out. what do you make of this and some of the lessons that we're being forced to relearn again after the 2000 recount and all of that? >> i think there's always
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leadership lessons to be learned from our politics here in america. this book, "dichotomy of leadership", it's about finding the right balance of leaders. it's important to do. you can go to far in any direction. you have to be a leader, be decisive and also be a follower. get in line and when someone else has a good idea, jump on board. a lot of politicians that need to stop putting theirselves first and put the mission first and what is best for the country long-term. >> neil: i'm applying current events this week to your fine book. i'm thinking, you know, where you have to seize and react to events that you can have little control. the mid-term elections offered something for everybody, somebody for the democrats, retaking the house, something for the president to take heart in, maybe beefing up republicans in the senate. both have to work with each
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other now. easier said than done, right? >> it is much easier said than done. with the heated rhetoric, it makes it difficult. it's time to tamp down that heated rhetoric and people get back to work and make things happen here. you know, there's a lot that i think democrats and republicans can align on. i think they need to start smart and once they see that it's not going to be a killer to make some things happen, whether it's infrastructure or what have you, to try to start with something that they can find some common ground on. once you can build some trust in the small things that translates to trust to bigger things. >> neil: you talk about aggressive and being pro active and doesn't mean that leaders can be aggressive towards their people but also doesn't mean being reckless. do you think president trump risks getting reckless
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sometimes? >> that's a tough dichotomy for leaders. you have to be aggressive and decisive and make things happen. it's never about being aggressive towards people. it's about being proactive to accomplish the mission. you have to mitigate risks and control. for president trump, often with so many leaders that we work with through our leadership consulting company, we see that leaders oftentimes, the greatest strength is the greatest weakness. for president trump, he's aggressive. he attacks those that attack him and he punches back and a lot of his supporter as appreciate that about him, which can be a great thing. on the other hand, you can take that too far in the other direction. it can be too aggressive. when you're given a platform to people that wouldn't have the platform and punching back when it's unnecessary, i think that's something that he needs to find balance in. >> neil: it's hard for people to change their stripes.
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in his case it's worked for him. >> certainly worked for core supporters, absolutely. i appreciate that about up trump. he tells it like it is. a lot of people do. however, when it alienating a position when you're trying to negotiate with folks, you have to do a better job of that. he has shown some strength there. i look at the kim jong-un situation with north korea. there was extremely rhetoric. when president trump sat down with him, he's tamped the rhetoric down. he's shown some ability to do that and hopefully he will do that with the democrats. >> neil: "dichotomy of leadership" is the book. they may you think whatever your perspective, just keep the focus on getting the job done. leif, thanks very much. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me.
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>> neil: all right. i forgot to mention georgia. right now, that battle is too close to be solved right now. stacy abrams, the woman who wants to be the first african-american governor of any state, and brian kemp who appeared to have the lead all locked up, but more likely a runoff election in a close battle there. doug collins is the republican congressman from that of georgi georgia. congressman, it's a mess! where is this going? >> i'm going to say here in georgia you're going to find that brian kemp is our next governor. stacy stacy has a problem with math. there's not enough votes for that. i don't know what you make of broward county. somebody has just got to keep calling this is crazy.
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we keep going back to the same place with the same kind of problem. at some point someone's going to call and say this has got to get better. >> neil: governor scott has said this and now marco rubio. this is an allegation, we don't approve of this, some new ballots are replacing damaged ones in the state, particularly palm beach county. that would be a no-no, but we've got no confirmation of that. but having said that, the process is in question. a recount wouldn't address that, may be in a georgia, a runoff wouldn't address that. maybe a new runoff election would possibly address that. what do you think of all these tight margin races in your state, in arizona, the senate battle there, in florida, both the senate and the gubernatorial battle, what's going on? >> i think it reflects something, your previous guest also wrote another book,
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"extreme ownership." democrats want take extreme ownership over the fact that they lost november. what we have is here in the election in cycles like georgia, suburban areas, i traveled the country during this extensively and what we are seeing is the excitement level is built up, but we also saw a lot of rhetoric that was going on that excited the republican base but also excited the democratic base. i think you are seeing a very partisan election right now, very few were independents, and i think it makes these boxes where it seems to be processed for even more problematic. i think we've seen the election, understood that we are going back in, i'm looking forward next week getting our process together, supporting kevin mccarthy, a great minority leader for that as we look forward to. we've got to prepare the message for 2020, the last few years have been good for america. we've got to make sure the
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message goes along for the next two years as well so we can go back in 2020 and make this a different election. >> neil: by then we'll know the results in florida and georgia. good thing we are live tomorrow and we are up it will be talking to the u.s. ambassador to germany on the president's trip to paris. much more on all these races. "the five" is now. >> dana: hello, everyone, i'm dana perino along with dan bongino, marie harf, -- this is "the five." florida once again the epicenter of a major postelection battle. allegations of fraud are being thrown around as two key races move closer to recount. broward and palm beach county causing senate candidate rick scott to file lawsuits accusing officials they are of trying to steal the election.


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