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>> some people will see you back here on monday morning. have a wonderful weekend and a wonderful holiday, everybody, thank you for joining us here. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> harris: we begin with a fox news alert, the senate is off until the new year with no deal next on an impeachment trial, including whether to have any witnesses. both sides, the senate, republicans, democrats, mitch mcconnell sounding off on the senate floor yesterday. >> as of today, however, we remain at an impasse. because my friend the democratic leader continues to demand a new and different set of rules for president trump. >> harris: the impasse, as senator mcconnell calls it, follow speaker pelosi's refusal to commit to sending the articles of impeachment of the senate, citing concerns over how
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republicans would conduct a trial. senator chuck schumer's office says in a statement, senator schumer asked senator mcconnell to consider senator schumer's proposal over the holidays because senator senator schumer and his carcass believe the witnesses and documents are essential to a fair senate trial." and for his part, the president tweeted this. "after the democrats gave me no due process in the house, no lawyers, no witnesses, no nothing, they now want to tell the senate how to run their trial. actually, they have zero proof of anything, they will never even show up, they want out. i want an immediate trial!" let's get immediately get to it all. you're watching "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. to my right, katie pavlich. lisa boothe, executive director of serve america pac, also a fox news contributor, marie harf. in the center seat, former white house press secretary sean spicer.
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we say he "outnumbered." always good to see you, welcome. let's just jump right in on all of this. i mentioned the impasse senator mcconnell was talking about, how do you see it? >> i don't see it as an impasse, the senate is controlled by the republicans, mitch mcconnell can decide how he wants to run at the same way nancy pelosi ran the house. at some point he's going to say, i listen to your concerns and we are moving forward. before we can even talk about that we've gotten them sent over to the senate. i don't understand how you can tell the american people, this is a very serious charge and a serious subject but i might not send it over. >> harris: it passed in the house, it's not like she's sending over documents that are just outlines. >> talking about following the constitution, the rule of law and she has the gall to say i don't know because i don't think the senate -- that's not her job. >> harris: can i ask you a quick question? i'm curious because you've seen some recent polling that shows that north of 70% of americans
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regardless of political party want to see witnesses in the senate trial, they want to hear from some people. >> sean: okay, unfortunately, there's a lot of things people would like but we ran the house -- the house ran their process the way they do, they called the witnesses, the republicans weren't afforded -- i'm sure there are 70% of people. >> harris: they got a couple witnesses. >> sean: house republicans had a right to have minority day, they were denied there. i get that people want certain things but look at this, chuck schumer in 1996 said when it was clinton's impeachment that there should be no witnesses. the bottom line is, nancy pelosi gets to run the process in the house and she is leader leader there. the precedent is the senate has witnesses. the republicans should have had a minority day. and so it is what it is and the senate will follow exactly --
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for these other folks to run a ramrod through the house and start to dictate the terms is quite ridiculous. >> lisa: it's not the senate's job to do with the house failed to do, going to court, battling it out with the executive branch, a separate branch of government that operates in a different ways of the judicial system could decide whether the house judiciary committee has the right to call certain aids of the president to come and justify about unanswered questions in front of the house members about what they want to hear. so mitch mcconnell is saying, i ran the senate, i don't know why nancy pelosi is trying to boss me around and tell me what to do and they want the senate to do the work the house has not done and mitch mcconnell is like, we have other things to get to. >> sean: i think the point that katie is making can't be overstated for viewers to really appreciate this. in the past, witnesses have decided not to go and congress,
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the house went to court to compel them to. they chose not to do that. >> harris: they wanted to get this along quickly. >> marie: if you're going to talk about the precedent, one built clinton was impeached, the head of the senate and the democratic said sat down together and hashed out the rules, they didn't come on the senate floor, they interviewed them in an outside briefing. >> harris: are you criticizing the fact that it hasn't happened? >> sean>> marie: they had a pros in place. i listened to the interview on npr this week, they called each other immediately. we need to figure this out. chuck schumer sent mitch mcconnell a letter weeks ago that mitch mcconnell never responded to, they sent him another one this weekend he's now asking him over christmas to think about how they can do this together. nancy pelosi is going to send the articles to the senate, she just wants the rules in place. she said that publicly, harris.
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the president was with the bill clinton impeachment. >> sean: he said they had a productive meeting. at the end of the day, mcconnell has listened to his concerns, he is the leader. >> marie: he's protecting the them. >> sean: at the end of the day he's sitting down but he is the senate leader and if that's how they handled it at the time, that's great. >> marie: they had witnesses then. >> lisa: nancy pelosi withholding articles of impeachment underscores it was always partisan in nature, it wasn't about the constitution are getting to any sort of truth, this was about trying to append the election and hurt president trump. if she was serious she'd allow the senate to conduct its constitutional duty, which is to conduct a trial. she's withholding it right now for a partisan political reaso reasons. from the beginning, what i find ironic is you have -- impeaching
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the president over abuse of power and obstruction of congress, how is nancy pelosi not doing the same thing right now? abusing her power, obstructing congress, obstructing the senate from doing their jobs. the american people see that and that's where the numbers are moving against the democrats. >> katie: the narrative is shifting to mitch mcconnell's not doing what he's is supposed to do in the senate. the articles of impeachment move over to the senate and now there are questions by witnesses that democrats called in front of the judiciary committee, harvard law professor saying -- >> harris: let's get to it, noah feldman testified against the president in an op-ed is now arguing against holding back the articles of impeachment which is exactly what speaker pelosi is doing right now. if the house does not communicate its impeachment to the senate, it has not actually impeach the president. if the articles are not transmitted, trump could
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legitimately say that he wasn't truly impeached at all. scholars may go back and forth on this point but the critical part of all that is that he was a witness for democrats during the house portion of the impeachment inquiry and now he's saying, if th the president has impeached until nancy pelosi does her job. you're asking the exact question, i asked our senior producer on the hill yesterday, have we ever seen anything like this before? how could they not have anticipated she might do this? he said he's talked to long-standing people with lots of experience through three impeachments, right? and if you're over the age of 55 you are probably an adult at some point during the first two, if not all three. he said no one's ever seen anything like this before because it hasn't ever been done and it looks more like, okay, let's just try this out. rather than, we've got rules for
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this. so it makes sense that that past history of bipartisanship would exist because there was no reason to challenge it but this is so polarized that we are seeing new dance moves. >> marie: i think part of the challenges mitch mcconnell is not taking seriously by many accounts what chuck schumer is asking him to take seriously and isn't having a negotiation. there should be no question that nancy pelosi will send these articles of impeachment to the senate. i just don't think -- this is my opinion based on working for a member of congress and knowing a lot of them. she said we are going to do this, we just want to make sure there are rules in place. >> sean: that's not her job. her job is to say, the house has done its job, here you go, senate. >> marie: legally she is allowed to do this, so she is doing her job. >> sean: in the late '80s, the judicial nomination to the supreme court changed the
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trajectory in the face of judicial nominations going forward. i believe the weaponization of impeachment right now will change how impeachment goes forward. this is going to become a tool that is used over and over again by the opposition party of the house if the white house is controlled by a different party. mark my words, this is now the new norm. >> marie: people said that about the clinton impeachment, too, lisa. >> lisa: republicans are going to do the same thing to the next democratic president at some point down the road, you see it with blowing up the filibuster for the lower courts as well, the republicans turn around and did it for senate confirmation as well. this is the new weaponization of impeachment, they are cheapening it and making it partisan and there's no going back. >> katie: mitch mcconnell cannot do his job if nancy pelosi is not giving him the articles. it's really that simple. >> harris: all right. the impeachment fight rages on. we are not fighting, we are just
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debating. they are fighting on the hill. a surprising call to remove president trump from office coming from a magazine tied to his religious base. plus, 2020 democrats at last nights debate pressed on why more americans are not backing impeachment. >> the court that counts here is the court of public opinion. the american people deserve to see the truth of these administration officials testifying under oath. ♪ most people think of verizon as a reliable phone company. but to businesses, we're a reliable partner. we keep companies ready for what's next. (man) we weave security into their business. (second man) virtualize their operations. (woman) and build ai customer experiences. (second woman) we also keep them ready for the next big opportunity. like 5g. almost all of the fortune 500 partner with us. (woman) when it comes to digital transformation... verizon keeps business ready.
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>> harris: 2020 democrats took the stage at their sixth debate last night, 24 hours after the house voted to impeach president trump without a single republican vote.
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the moderator pressed candidates on why democrats have not convinced americans. many of the candidates reflected odefected on that. >> we have a president who is running the most corrupt administration in the modern history. >> if the president claims that he is so innocent, why doesn't he have all the presidents men testify? richard nixon had his top people testify. >> harris: 2020 candidate andrew yang warned that democrats impeachment could backfire. >> we have to stop being obsessed over impeachment which unfortunately strikes many americans like a ball game or you know what the score is going to be, and actually start digging in and solving the problems that got donald trump elected in the first place.
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>> harris: interesting. really, marie, most people would think that if you brought up impeachment on a stage where you had more than one senator you probably would get kumbaya but andrew yang went after it. >> marie: in this case he's actually not right here. the house led by nancy pelosi has passed 300 bills this year they have republicans on them, bipartisan support. a large majority of those bills are sitting on mitch mcconnell's desk. democrats running in 2020, at the house and senate level are going to say is yes, we did impeachment, we believe it was our constitutional duty to do so but we pass the prescription drug bill, we passed against 300 bills in the house that they got republicans on, many of which sat on mitch mcconnell's desk. there is some indication for 2019 races and some other special elections, some we've seen this year that that actually works with voters particularly in some districts. >> harris: the nuance you are saying is now you've added in
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the line that republicans were part of that which is worth noting. what does that mean when those bills go to senator mcconnell's desk and don't get picked up? >> sean: i think voters are results-oriented. when you go back and say, here's why my excuse to why it didn't happen. that's why trump got elected, he cut through all the b.s. and said "i'm going to get it done." we can argue the merits of how the system works but at the end of the day, voters look at politicians and say, you promised me the following, did you deliver? trump's come around and said i said i'd cut regulations, i said i'd cut taxes, i said, i said, i said. i did, i did, i did. here are the results. members of congress will go back and say, let me give you an excuse to why i didn't get something done. most voters will say, i will get somebody who can get it done. it might've been over the senate, but at the end of the
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day when republicans controlled the house and control the senate, things got done. >> katie: they did repeal the individual mandate but the reason it's falling flat is because the argument is weak, it is simple and what i find interesting is everyone is talking about how nancy pelosi is a shrewd political tactician. in 2010 she walked the democrats off a cliff with obamacare, you are at the rnc at the time and witnessed all of this and what i find interesting is when you look at these town halls, elissa slotkin out of michigan, looking at adam schiff who is that chairman of the intelligence committee, they are being shouted down at these town halls and that's something i'd be looking at as well. there was a lot of anger from voters, taking the country in a direction they didn't want to
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see. you mentioned the results oriented voters are, it's going to the senate where the president is going to be acquitted, where it's not going anywhere and everyone knows that. you looking at this as a huge waste of time. >> harris: i want to piggyback off of what you said, one of the early tweets from the president of the united states today, $738 billion defense spending bill today, 12 week paid parental leave, give our troops are raise, create the space bar southern border wall funding. raises the smoking age to 21. >> sean: from a purely political standpoint, this isn't a partisan thing. if you go down that list and think about the groups and the constituencies, you got veterans, moms, fathers, labor. labor and you go into michigan,
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wisconsin, pennsylvania, you're really hitting key constituencies in a presidential year and i think that one bill, that's one bill, how many jobs that's going to create but the differences when you go in the next few months and make your case to voters on why you either want to be reelected, you're going to have to enumerate things people can identify with and not some obscure thing. that bill alone, think about how many people are talking about parental leave. when a child is born naturally or through adoption, that's a big deal. >> lisa: those are also issues that democrats used to be able to champion and that's changed because president trump decided to try to change the direction of the republican party. the gloves coming off in last night's debate as elizabeth warren called out pete buttigieg over a recent fund-raiser sparking this tense exchange. >> the mayor just recently had a fund-raiser that withheld in a
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wine cave crystals and serve $900 a bottle line. billionaires and wine caves should not pick the next president of the united states. >> i am literally the only person on this stage who is not a millionaire or a billionaire. so if -- this is important. this is the problem with issuing purity test you cannot yourself past. >> katie: i thought pete's response was really good, elizabeth warren was accusing him of something, you don't know these people, why are you accusing these turtle people do charitable people. she has a long history of taking corporate money and transferring it over to her presidential campaign. says the guy on the stage, i'm not the millionaire here, you are. marie: i agree with pete that purity tests do not have a place. people are not taking these kind
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of purity tests, elizabeth warren is trying to push the presidential candidates in this direction but a lot of democrats are rejecting this. the fund-raiser pete had, most people in the audience weren't billionaires and millionaires, it was an open press fund-raiser at a winery. she was attacking him because she sees him as a political threat. he's rising in the polls. >> sean: what really got lost and that is what is a wine cave? i've seen a wine cellar. >> lisa: i looked it up, it is a standard cave that many wineries around the country have to store wine at proper temperatures. it's not a fancy thing that millionaires have. >> harris: if you ever play trivia with her, you're going to win. >> katie: i've technically been to one because i've been to a winery. >> lisa: can i make a point and be lame?
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the only point i want to make is i think this underscores how poor elizabeth warren's political instincts are coming or going to go after the guy when you're sitting on $12 million when you are the definition of a capitalist, you've made money selling books, flipped houses, done consulting work, investments. >> harris: which by the way, is fine. >> lisa: more power to you, get it, girl, but don't be out there going after people who are rich, that was such a phenomenal line he gave back to her. >> katie: president trump fighting back at a prominent evangelical magazine after it ran an op-ed about his removal for office. john durham's investigation into the russia probe's origins ahead as attorney general barr, his due insight on what's going on. >> it's a much broader investigation. also, he's not just looking at the fisa aspect of it.
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>> lisa: new insight into u.s. attorney john durham's investigation into the origins of the russia pro. attorney general william barr telling martha maccallum he does not expect the report for quite a few months. but that durham is moving diligently and that his investigation will be wide-ranging. >> is looking at other agencies
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and private departments and also private actors. and it's much broader investigation and also he's not just looking at the fisa aspect of it, he is looking at global conduct both before and after the election. >> katie: this is "the new york times" reports that durham has begin examining the role do john brannon played in the investigation and has requested his email, call log and other documents from the cia. obviously this is more serious, inspector general horowitz can only investigate inside the department of justice and it looks like durum is looking at some discrepancies john brannen may have had between what he was saying privately to people like former fbi director james comey and what he said under oath to congressional -- during congressional hearings. >> sean: if you take what horwitz came out within the report he did, there was clearly
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some malfeasance, procedures weren't followed, sloppiness at the very least. the ability to look at the holistic approach that was taken back then, what went into some of these reports and investigations, across departments and agencies will really be fascinating because being confined to one department limits the ability to see where certain things came from and where they went afterwards. i think this really could be a tremendous look inside of how things were operating heading into the election. >> katie: this is a criminal investigation. he's looking at before and after the election as well. >> harris: you look at someone like kevin kleinsmith literally doctoring information that would show that carter page is working for the united states government rather than against it calls into question the motivations of the people at the helm of this investigation in its totality so it raises questions about the
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motivation, raises questions about other wrongdoing that took place and then you also have john durham putting out that statement disagreeing with horwitz and the fact that the investigation was predicated from the beginning which shows there's more to the story here. click on john brannen, this is the guy who spied on that senate intelligence committee and lied to congress about it so the idea that he was somehow aboveboard flies in the face of the truth. >> katie: marie, any thoughts? >> marie: everyone i know who worked on the russia investigation at the time did so at the cia or the fbi, because they believed there was an she national security threat potentially from the russians, potentially working with people affiliated in some way with the trump campaign. we've gotten many more details about that. i am concerned, the motivations, the people i know were the right ones. i am concerned they are doing this to a kind of satiate
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president trump's political desire for this to be investigated and i am fairly confident that whatever comes from this, if it's accurate and accurately reflects what i know to be the truth would be people are genuinely concerned about a counterintelligence threat and/or investigating it based on properly predicated information. my own personal experience the there. >> katie: the fbi and intelligence committee have lost a lot of credibility with the country. i think of a question about john brannen, carter page was working for the cia as an asset for the united states government, why wasn't john brannen standing up for him while he was being smeared in the media by the fbi? >> harris: i will be quick. just to kind of respond to what marie was saying and also you, what you are laying out is why marie doesn't trust the process and i don't think that it's trust is in any political party, doesn't matter where you are, for the reasons you just laid out i think the american public
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looks at this, another investigation, can we be honest about the findings? on both sides of the isle you would have to agree, those 17 areas where there were problems, we've got problems and we need to start a fix that. fbi director christopher wray talking about the things he wants to fix, the secret court, things we need to fix and we may very well find the same thing, let's be honest about it when it comes out. i don't need a signpost on this, i'm going to wait. the other one, we just got it two weeks ago. let's be patient and wait and see what they find and agree that the facts are the facts. >> katie: isn't accountability important? this was not just mistakes that were made, there was doctored information, doctored evidence, huge omissions that would change the entire narrative of the last two years. this is a criminal investigation and accountability is important to the american people trusting these institutions that have so
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much power over them. >> sean: in the days leading up to the election, a couple of my colleagues were asked to come down to the department of homeland security. if you remember the narrative at the time, whether president trump would accept the outcome of the election and the legitimacy of the vote. they were doing these briefings for us, saying this is how the elections were, we have full faith and confidence in the system and the integrity and we asked you to express confidence in the integrity of the system. once trump won, i think that was predicated on the fact that they knew -- up until then it was hey, we've got this thing under control. speak >> katie: we will learn in a couple of months accordingo the attorney general. a plump day my prominent evangelical magazine calls for president trump to be removed from office. the president is firing back. ♪
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>> the question is, when does his behavior rise to the level where he's no longer fit to serve office? and to me we cross that line with the impeachment hearing. >> marie: that was the editor in chief of "christianity today" with a scathing editorial calling for president trump's removal. the president fired back on twitter, calling the publication a "far left magazine that's been doing poorly and what rather have a radical left nonbeliever that wants to take your religion and you're gone then donald trump as your president." billy graham's son franklin graham slammed the editorial. this has created quite a firestorm on the internet, president trump trying to respond by saying this is a liberal outlet, liberal author. that is not true, the author of
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this piece and the magazine itself is quite conservative. >> harris: i know we stopped at that point, "my father would be embarrassed" but here's what i found interesting, it is not going to change anybody's mind about trump, there is a live lil element within the evangelical movement. what is franklin graham jr. talking about there? >> sean: look at the president support among evangelicals, if you are evangelical that's been told especially from folks on the right over and over again over the past decade, we're going to do the following and it doesn't happen, you've got a guy like trump who not only campaigned particularly in the area of the judiciary, these are the kind of judges i'm going to a point which is very important to the evangelical community, and he fulfilled that, he kept his word and there are a lot of folks in the evangelical community saying you know what, he's not a perfect vessel just like so many other people that god has chosen --
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>> harris: how is that a liberal element? >> marie: it's not. >> sean: i think he saying there are people in the evangelical community who don't agree with us -- that's what i read it as. >> marie: katie, what's frustrating is i've heard a lot of evangelicals during bill clinton's presidency talk about the personal morality of the president being so important and you see people, not just open christianity today," but prominent evangelical, that's come out for a long time and said "we use to say morality matters, we should also say it matters now." that's what democrats would respond to. >> katie: when we get into debates about morality, i think a lot of evangelicals who are more conservative would argue that liberal evangelicals are hypocrites, too. if we go down that path there's all kinds of political issues we can debate but i think this proves your point, harris, the word "evangelical" is a broad term that's used to describe a lot of different people and they are not a monolithic group.
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the president has 80% of their support but they don't all think the same way and a lot of them do struggle with the issue of maybe some of the things president trump has done in the past or the way he handles things like -- they also look at the supreme court and say he's put justices on the court who believe in my first amendment right to practice my religion freely. he also has put a number of people on the court, the lower courts reveal the exact same way. they are making a choice to not accept his behavior but i understand that's the way it is in return for real results that protect their civil liberties. >> harris: i think evangelicals look at this from a practical standpoint, neither party has the upper hand on morality, look at someone like bill clinton. they look at president trump as a vehicle for getting some of the policies done that they want to see done. they also look at someone like
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joe biden who is allegedly a moderate who wants to give it about hyde amendment which is something most evangelicals are going to reject that notion. i think they say, look, neither party is perfect, president trump clearly has a colorful past but they say, you know what, you're at least going to push forward policies i agree with more than the other side and i think that's ultimately what it comes down to for many of them. >> marie: it's frustrating from a lot of democrats who heard a lot about morality when it was a president that's not trump. a fox news poll from december shows what evangelicals approve of president trump by about 67%, we will look at these numbers. an interesting place to look at ahead of 2020 as well. >> harris: among democrats, the bar has always been by evangelicals that i interview from different groups, not everybody thinks the same, it's like all tall women are different.
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my point is, what they will say is we are just looking for politicians who will listen to us without the side i have not liking us. can you get to neutral and also make policies that reflect our values? >> marie: evangelicals are a very influential voting bloc and i think the democratic nominee will be asking that exact question here in 2020. in the meantime, a rare moment of bipartisan support for one of president trump's key policy initiatives. why are the president and the house speaker now sparring and who will win back in the court of public opinion? we will debate it up next. ♪ attentions veterans with va loans,
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>> of course we will take credit for what would be a collateral benefit to the president. an opportunity to do something very important for the american people. >> harris: house speaker nancy pelosi thursday morning saying her caucus deserves credit for improving the u.s.-mexico-canada trade agreement. hours later the house finally passed that deal. majority leader mitch mcconnell says he won't take it up until after an impeachment trial. this as nancy pelosi and president trump are sparring over who gets to claim victory. i think the american people can claim victory. mexico, our biggest trading partner, that's a big deal. >> katie: i find it funny that nancy pelosi wants to take
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credit when it's been languishing. she has to prove she can do things the same time if she's impeaching the president. she's trying to take credit for it. they've change some things in the house. >> sean: she just made them walk the plank on impeachment. >> harris: only two of them walked. >> sean: she now needs to say, you can work with president trump. this is the attempt to do this. the president was the one who came up with the idea, the one who forced both mexico and canada to the table multiple times. the one who went and said, this is. he pressured the house into doing it and we went around the country selling these things. president trump deserves the credit. >> harris: i want to ask you this, why wouldn't mitch mcconnell go ahead and do what he needs to do here? look at all the gamesmanship that's being played right now.
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she's going to not release the articles. i hadn't started to put all this together but it sounds like sixth grade. >> lisa: look at the timing. the same day nancy pelosi unveiled the articles of impeachment, she announces they're going to move forward, put it together. this is a political ploy. >> harris: i get it, but why won't mitch mcconnell? >> marie: mitch mcconnell should also do it quickly. it wasn't -- nancy pelosi was doing her job and negotiating with the administration, as soon as they got that done she got it to the floor before the new year which is amazing, i did not think that was going to happen. they did what republicans have called on us to do. we looked at something and voted for it if we liked it. i don't know what you guys want. he wanted us to vote for it, we
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did. if mitch mcconnell would move it, it would become law. it's on your desk, man. >> harris: has 2019 been a good year for you and for america? would it surprise you to learn americans are split on answering that along party lines? we will report on anything in terms of that as a country. fox polling tells us about the state of the nation next. ♪ dogs. the first dogs trained to train humans. stopping drivers from: liking. selfie-ing. and whatever this is. available to the public... never. smartdogs are not the answer. but geico has a simple tip. turn on "do not disturb while driving" mode. brought to you by geico. i feelbusiness logo...outdoor sign. you always get me. get free next business day shipping or
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exact reverse with 65% declaring it a good year and 13% saying it was bad. probably not a lot of surprise there. what do these numbers tell you? >> marie: how was your year, sean? >> sean: i think i had a great year, i enjoyed it, i loved it, i feel blessed in so many ways. i don't know, i feel bad for some degree if you look back on our year and whether you had a d year, whether family are so many other things in your life but i hope for the people that's a bad that it gets better. >> katie: marie, was your year bad? >> marie: it's kind of mixed. 365 days, a lot of things happened, girl. it's an interesting question, i said it was very interesting when i saw it because taking a step back, looking at the last year, it has been so polarized. next year i'm nervous, the
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election, it's not going to get any better. that wasn't very hopeful. >> lisa: we saw this in the split. >> katie: i think if this question is asked in purely political terms, the president, the economy is very good, democrats are in a fight for a primary which is a very difficult process for a party to go through because you are fighting against your own team in a lot of ways and republicans have had a lot of big plans. down to personal contacts, i've had a great year. thank you to everyone and all the viewers for making it a good one. hopefully next year is better. sean spicer, thank you so much for being here and merry christmas to you, my friend. we are back on monday at noon eastern. "outnumbered overtime" starts now with harris faulkner. >> harris: a fox news alert on this friday, the impasse over
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the senate impeachment trial bleeding over the holidays as senate lawmakers depart washington with no signs of compromise between nancy pelosi and senate majority leader mitch mcconnell. this is "outnumbered overtime," i'm harris faulkner. president trump and his are public and allies are criticizing speaker pelosi who has refused to send over those articles of impeachment for the senate. democrats are demanding current and former white house aides take the witness stand during a senate trial. mcconnell says they are just wasting time. >> sam houston democrats imply they are withholding the articles. some kind of leverage. they can dictate the senate process to senators. i admit i'm not sure what leverage there is in refraining from sending us something we do not want. >> democrats won a fair trial


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