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happening. we will keep on the story and bring you any latebreaking details but that's all for this hour fox news live new set of chris wallace is up next have an awesome sunday and a great week >> i am chris wallace for the president promises to end the forever war in afghanistan. slaps russia with new sanctions in his biggest foreign policy week so far. ♪ ♪ >> it is time for american troops to come home. >> after two decades of more than 2000 u.s. troops killed, mr. biden said he will pull all american forces out in time to mark 20 years since 911. critics say it could destabilize the region or even worse. >> with all due respect president biden has not ended the war you have extended a bright >> while the u.s. it's russia with tough new
sanctions and russia respond. with the present national security advisor jake sullivan about the emerging biden foreign policy. then, congress divided it as lawmakers off over infrastructure and guns the filibuster and supreme court, will ask democratic chris coons a republican senator about the potential for compromise. it is a rare bipartisan sitdown only on fox news sunday. plus with one in five fully vaccinated, the battle over safety versus freedom boils over on capitol hill. >> the american people want doctor fauci to answer. [inaudible] >> you need to respect the chair and shut your mouth. >> we will ask her sunday panel but mixed messages as americans prepare for yet another new normal. in our power player of the
week admiral william nick may vent on what a real hero. all now on fox news sunday. >> and hello again from fox news in washington. for the first months of this presidency, joe biden focused almost exclusively on the pandemic. both the public health concerns and the economic fallout. but this week he turned to foreign policy. the u.s. will begin its final full withdrawal of all military forces from afghanistan. the white house maintains it can deal with terror threats from the region outside of afghanistan. but critics warn the president is handling the taliban a victory. and it comes at the present biden hits russia with new sanctions and pushes back against china. in a moment will sitdown the
president's national security advisor jake sullivan to discuss the emerging biden foreign policy. but first let's bring in david traveling with the president from delaware with the latest on a consequential week, david. >> chris, with three major foreign-policy announcements in as many days the president is redefining america's role in the world. >> bin laden is dead and al qaeda is degraded in iraq and afghanistan. and it is time to end the forever war. >> almost 20 years after september 11, president biden said he will pull u.s. troops from afghanistan, a plan critics call dangerous. >> any withdrawal of forces that is not based on conditions on the ground puts american security at risk. >> on thursday the president announced economic sanctions against several russian companies and individuals in response to attempts to interfere in the 2020 election. the president says he is in
talks to me if russian president vladimir putin. meanwhile on friday he met the japanese prime minister to discuss a growing problem for both countries. china. also friday after democrats complained, the president backtracked on plans to keep the trump administration limit on refugee resettlement this fiscal year. >> he said in february that he was going to lift the refugee cat. i believe he needs to do that right now. >> the white house clarified the president will later increase the cap. meanwhile in ten days he will address the joint session of congress on april 28 to mark his 100 days in office. chris. >> david, spot reporting from delaware david thank you. and joining is now the president's national security advisor jake sullivan, jake welcome back to fox news sunday. >> thanks for having me.
chris: jake, as david just reported on friday morning the president indicated that he was going to stick with the refugee cap set by president trump last year. not the 62500 refugees the administration promised in february to allow into the u.s., but instead just 15000 refugees this year. then, under a storm of criticism the president backed down within hours friday afternoon and said he will set a higher cap in may. jake, what happened? >> well first of all we face two problems and we came in. there's the problem of the cap, 15000 there's a probably allocation was at the trump administration had said zero people can come from africa effectively zero people could come for the middle east. until the president wanted to go with this in two steps. the first step was to change the allocations of people in africa could literally get on
planes this week. the second would be to raise the cap as we are fixing the system and its process may took the first step this past week or he'll take the second step in the weeks ahead. i think there was some misunderstanding on friday about the import of his decision friday morning which was focused on the allocation on the cap. chris: but in fact was issued on friday it talked about 15000, yes it did talk about maybe going higher later but it sets the cap at 15000 at this point. and, a lot of people pointed out include some democratic senators blumenthal handling refugees handling the flow of illegal immigration at the border undone by two separate programs. they suggest the real problem here the real reason you're sticking with the trump gap until you got blowback exams there's a crisis at the border.
suddenly he want that many immigrants coming across the board into the country. statement well, first of all the octaves of refugee resettlement is the same office that handles them both company children at the border and refugees coming in from around the world. and so as it turns out, president biden and his team had to dig into whether we could allocate the resources effectively to be able to get folks into the refugee pipeline and into united states. he is absolutely committed to making sure that not only is america welcoming to refugees, not only do we get people on planes immediately by changing those allocations which were rooted in xenophobia and racism but also we raise the cap. he is committed to that and will follow through on that. chris: new >> where there's been a lot of pushback to the president's decision to pull all u.s. troops out of afghanistan by 911, senate
republican leader mitch mcconnell says that we are opening the door for the taliban to come back increasing the possibility that terror groups like isis and al qaeda. take a look at senator mcconnell. >> i currently wear to help our adversaries ring and the anniversary of the 911 attacks by gift wrapping the country and had to get right back to them. >> why did the president overrule the pentagon? can he be so searched and given the fact these pentagon isn't in the cia isn't that al qaeda and isis won't reconstitute in a new afghanistan? also the millions of young afghan women who have been allowed to go to school and to lead full lives? what happens to them the taliban takes over? >> well chris, that is a number of questions.
let me take each intern. respect to the afghan threat in afghanistan president biden is not going to take his eye off the ball. he said in his speech we would maintain capabilities in his region to make sure we can tilt any threat that reconstitute sprayed the intelligence committee may clear this week in public testimony that will have months of warning before al qaeda isis could have an external plotting capability from afghanistan. we are not going to take our eye off the ball. but then second and this is really critical, the terrorist threat has changed dramatically since we went to war in afghanistan 20 years ago. al qaeda is in yemen, syria and somalia. isis is across-the-board or region in iraq and syria and multiple countries in africa. so to really protect this country from the terrorist threat we need to allocate our resources and capabilities across a range of countries and continents, just focus them on a stand.
finally on the question of women and girls. resident biden, i can stop there if you would like. >> real quickly if you can give me an answer to that that's an important issue. >> so on the issue of women and girls, president biden said in his speech that the united states would continue to provide civilian and humanitarian assistance to protect their rights. more than that the united states would continue to finance the afghan national defense and security forces. we have trained and equipped 300,000 afghan forces to their country and their people. some years ago nato said at the end of the year at the end of 2014 we would transition full responsibility to them. president biden determines finally time to do so. the eight but joe biden was justin confident in 2011 about pulling all u.s. forces out of my rock. here he was then. >> and there are skeptics,
skeptics who said don't move too fast. what if the iraq he's aren't ready to take on this responsibility? but the iraq security forces proved to be more than ready. chris: jake, you know what happened as well as i do. isis group, ended up seizing 40% of the territory in iraq and the u.s. end up having to send back 5000 troops because they left too early. guarantee that won't happen in afghanistan? i can tell you president biden has no sending forces back to afghanistan but he has no intention take care eye off the ball. we have the capacity from repositioning our capabilities over the horizon to continue to suppress the terrorist threat in afghanistan. i cannot make any guarantees about what will happen inside the country. no one can. all the united states could do is provide the afghan security
forces, the afghan government and the afghan people resources and capabilities training and clipping their forces. providing assistance to the government. we have done that and next time for american troops to come home and the afghan people to step up and defend their own country. chris: he said the president was a focus on the threats of 2021 not 2020. i want to talk about one of those and that is iran. they say they are making progress and talks indirect with the u.s. on resuming the iran nuclear deal. first of all, is that true? secondly philip iran wouldn't they be willing to go step-by-step to lift sanctions as they move back in compliance with the agreement? or do they have to resent all of their violations now 60% enrichment before we lift any sanctions? the next soap first, he talks
in vienna have been constructed in the sense that there is real effort underway there with the permanent five members of the security council plus to germany on one hand and iran on the other to get on the table all of the issues related to sanctions and nuclear issues so we could end up on a compliance basis. i am not going to negotiate on television on the question of how that compliance for compliance issue plays out. what i will say is the united states is willing to lift sanctions unless we have clarity fully returned to compliance with hits, obligations under the deal that it will put a lid on the nuclear program. that will expand its breakout time. that it will reduce the level of enrichment and the scope is enrichment in this country. and until we have confidence in all of those things united states not going to make any concessions at all.
chris: finally found a minute left for this, what did we learn this week about joe biden's foreign policy? is there a biden doctrine? >> i would let the president speak to that rather than try to characterize it for him. i will say this, chris, president biden believes the united states should be approaching the challenges of the second quarter of the 21st century from a position of strength. that means investing here at home so we have a strong foundation. that means putting emphasis on our allies like japan his prime minister visited on friday. it means rejoining international institutions like the paris climate agreement so that the united states is writing the rules and not leaving them to be written by china. and finally, it doesn't mean ending the forever war in afghanistan. so we are set up to fight the battles of the next 20 years and not just the last 20 years. and across all of these
dimensions, president biden is but values and center in his foreign policy. he believes this is the moment democracies need to prove they can deliver for their citizens that ours is a system of government that will ultimately went out in the long run. chris: okay, thank you. thanks for your time this sunday. please come back. epitaxial talk with leading senators from both sides of the aisle. a rare joint interview on the possibilities and limits of bipartisanship in washington. er. that's easily adjustable has no penalties or advisory fee. and we can monitor to see that we're on track. like schwab intelligent income. schwab! introducing schwab intelligent income. a simple, modern way to pay yourself from your portfolio. oh, that's cool... i mean, we don't have that. schwab. a modern approach to wealth management. ♪ (ac/dc: back in black) ♪
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promises a bipartisanship are already fading. but there are some senators who are trying to find issues where they can seek old-school compromise. joining us now republican senator john cornyn of texas. democratic senator kunz of delaware. gentlemen i'm going to begin with a bit of a back story. senator coons you and i were talking a few weeks ago you congested a segment with senator cornyn and you about bipartisanship and specifically about a plan you are both working on to take on china. however in preparing this week i find that you are no longer together necessarily on that china planned. so let me start with you senator coons are is this a lesson bipartisanship or exactly the opposite? ischemic chris it's great to be on with you. it's great to be element senator cornyn of texas. we just talked about this yesterday paid we are both hoping that in the next few weeks as we work through
committees that we will end up being together on a bill that will invest in american competitiveness. as jake sylvan just said in the last segment, we have to reinvest here at home. and john led an effort in the last conference and got signed into law to bring back to the united states the manufacturing of semi conductor chips if seen urgent as if we keep manufacturing automobiles in this country. i support john's initiative their print and working across the aisle on the foreign relations committee which will have a market this week. so actually chris i would not declare it dead yet. i think it's a positive and possible we could work together still in the coming weeks on investing in america to better compete with china. >> senator cornyn, taking on china would seem to be something that all americans let alone senators could agree on. but there then reports that you and a number of other
republican senators after making big bipartisan push, are beginning to back off. what is the problem? >> i think we were all encouragingly heard president biden on jenner the 20th talking about healing the divisions in the country in appealing to national unity. unfortunately as i've complained to my friend chris coons with 30 executive orders and a partisan $1.9 trillion covid 19th will that only 10% of which was actually covid-19 release. we are not off to a great start. having said that, chris and i are working together to try to come together on some bipartisan bills. the teacher is it's very hard to get anything done in the senate unless it is bipartisan. there is some exceptions to the role. but in a 50/50 senate neither party has a mandate. and so we simply have to work together to make progress where we can. i am encouraged that chris is a good partner and willing to work with me to it try to
accomplish the important things. chris: let me pick up on that with you, senator cornyn. there are some areas where the two of you are working together. i want to put up a couple of them. one is the next denial notification act which would require federal officials to notify state and local authorities if someone fails a background check. another one is the core activity expand americorps. so senator cornyn, what did we learn here? what are the areas where there is a possibility of working together? and where are the limits to that possibility? for a fully try to do is identify areas where we agree. the truth is the parties are not as divided on some of these issues as you might imagine just from reading the papers are watching the news online pouring cable news. we are trying to identify areas we can make progress. i know a lot of concern about gun violence in the country
that has been a chronic problem. i work with chris murphy the senator from connecticut. we passed something called the fix and nick's abilities resulted in millions of new background checks being uploaded to the background check system. as i've told chris, i'm very proud of our work together on that. because i believe it has saved lives. so chris coons and i have tried to identify those areas like civics education like you said the background check denial, report to local police, americorps things like that we can make some progress and hopefully sort of bring back some of the muscle memory of previous years when congress actually work better together. chris: i think it's fair to say the biggest issue right now is infrastructure. senator coons you made an interesting proposal this week which is, everyone agrees is infrastructure highway, bridges, roads, expanding
broadband comes to about $800 billion. facts that on a bipartisan basis for republicans and democrats. and in the rest of it which is another trillion dollars of much more questionable infrastructure that democrats would pass that on a straight party line basis on reconciliation. the question i happy senator coons, what is in it for republicans to agree to a plan in which democrats can act bipartisanship as part of the bill but the night ram the rest of it through on a party line reconciliation fund. >> will chris the broader question you're really asking is what is in it for our country and what is it for the people we represent from our state. and republicans and democrats work together to solve problems. i think if we come together in a bipartisan way to pass that 800 billion-dollar part infrastructure bill i have been urging can solve problems
privy all agreed for a long time that we need to invest more think in the next few weeks we need to roll up our sleeves, sit down and find ways that both parties can support these critically needed investments. that is here at home. but chris, it is also critical for standing in the world. the worst thing that could happen to xi jinping to ruin his day is for them to see republicans and democrats working together the house and senate to solve the problem facing the american people in partnership with president biden. that showing our framers vision of principal compromising congress can still work. and so whether it's working with john on a basic ability but teaching >> center school, or to working together with john on the more challenging issues of immigration, or mental health, or gun violence for investing in infrastructure a think we have to show folks we can and will
do our best to work together. >> senator cornyn, when republicans ever agree to that? we will play bipartisan to you to pass $100 billion in heart infrastructure. but then understand that you're going to go ahead and pass the rest of another 1 trillion plus raising taxes through a straight party line vote run it through. >> wellin the interest of bipartisanship i will agree that senator coons is half right. there is a core infrastructure bill that we could pass with appropriate pay for like roads bridges even reaching out to broadband which this pandemic has exposed the great digital divide in the country. we have seen advances in telemedicine. we have seen more people learning online pretty think we could all agree to that. that is the part we can agree on till let's do it and leave the rest for another day and another fight.
chris: you be willing to go for the 800 billion if you could agree on a plate forward regardless of what democrats went on and did? i want to end on this >> senator cornyn. i want to put up a tweet you sent out this week, here it is. the president is not doing cable news interviews tweets from his account are limited and when they come unimaginably conventional key public comments are largely scripted. biden has opted for fewer sitdown interviewers with mainstream outlets and reporters, invites the question is he really in charge? i question i guesses, et cetera cornyn, is that helpful to be sending out a tweet with his mental faculties? >> chris thank you for the question. i think there has been a lot of confusion. that action was a quote from a politico story that i pasted into a tweet and that i simply asked a question.
what i am trying to do is reconcile the joe biden we heard from on jane or the 20th to the joe biden many of us know from his previous service in the united states senate. from the joe biden we are seeing now jamming through $1.9 trillion of spending bills. i have learned in washington you not only need to listen to what people say, you need to watch what they do. so far there's a conflict i'm trying to reconcile. i bet i'm not the only one. do you have questions whether joe biden is really in charge, frankly fees up for the job? >> that tweet was not meant to suggest anything about the president's competency or physical or mental. i know some people suggested that certainly was not my intention bruce simply tried to reconcile the rhetoric with the reality. we need the reality to match the rhetoric. and it is not matching right
now. chris: i'm glad weise clear that up senator cornyn center coos thank you both good luck working together and try to get something done washington. always good to talk with you both. up next move bring in our sunday group to discuss that heated exchange between doctor fauci and congressman. amid the frustration felt by millions of vaccinated americans. versus the other guys. ♪♪ clearly, velveeta melts creamier.
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spit out what measures have be obtained before america did the first moment liberties back? >> right now we have about 60000 infections a day which is a very large risk for a surge. we are not talking about liberties but we are talking about a pandemic that is killed 560,000 americans. chris: republican congressman heated back-and-forth with dr. anthony fauci over the tension between freedom and public health. as the pandemic continues.
it's time now for sunday former chief of staff to vice president pence mark short, karen of the "washington post" and author of the new book the triumph of nancy reagan. i've read it it is great. and marie harper of the serve america pack. mark, you were deeply involved in the covid the vice president's chief of staff. how do you think the biden team is doing so far in handling the pandemic? what about the decision to pause distribute the j&j vaccine? >> will chris, i think it's incredibly dangerous decision to pause the distribution of the j&j vaccination. the reality is one and a thousand women can suffer blood clots my birth control pill and it a sickly one in a million from johnson & johnson. get were passing it we
continue to deliver the vaccination. you're going to create hesitancy who have doubts. the reality the pauses incredibly dangerous move. chris: marie, i think it's fair to say it is not been an especially good week for the biden administration and the covid area. first of all they pause in the j and j vaccine, which i think as mark points out is going to increase concerns about taking the vaccine. and this week there were hundreds of thousands of vaccine appointments that went unfilled. and then in addition the continuing confusion about what you can do and can't do, especially after our fully vaccinated. your thoughts on that? >> will chris, the biden administration is still very far ahead of where they had promised to be with vaccinated americans but we are setting records every single day for
how many americans are good and shots in their that is a good thing. what comes to the j&j vaccine the administration may clear this week we have enough of pfizer and moderna vaccines to vaccinate americans by the j&j pause will not impact how many americans are able to get vaccinate. actually shows the opposite. shows when there is a concern raised when there is a question the experts are taking a pause and get into the bottom of it. we know these vaccines were developed in record time. we know they are incredibly effective but we just want to make sure as we get new evidence is taken into account right that's what you heard from doctor fauci. this is a disease a year end a half ago none of us had ever heard of. the facts and the data keep coming in. as they get information but we can and cannot do when vaccinated they are going to put it out there. chris: ^-caret i want to pick up on that last point. the biggest frustration i hear these days is from people but
they can do, what they can't do. to mean the ultimate case of that was a couple weeks ago the cdc said if you are fully vaccinated, it is safe to fly in an airplane as long as you observe the safety restrictions but continuing to wear a mask. but then they added in the next sentence, but we urge you against any nonessential travel. how do you navigate the confusion there? >> i just think they're going to have to be a lot clearer. we have reached the point where the end is in sight. this vaccine is our quickest, surest, straightest route to that end. i am with marie. i was actually reassured by the j&j pause. the figure that mark decided that less than one and a million is talk about the population at large. but in women of childbearing age the risk of a blood clot
is actually higher than the risk of dying of covid. is it related to the vaccine? i listen to the cdc presentation. their logic made a lot of sense to me. and to me it says they are being cautious with this. and they are looking at warning signs. chris: limit switch subjects on you. president biden as we discussed earlier has made a lot of big news this day of foreign policy, announcing he is going to pull all u.s. troops out of afghanistan by the 20th anniversary of 911, here is the president. >> i am now the fourth united states president to preside over american troop presence in afghanistan. i will not pass this responsibility onto a fifth. chris: mark, president trump won it to have all troops out by may 1. putting aside the fact it's
not going to before months later, and september, did president biden make the right move here? vicki no chris i'm please he's continuing the president trump's policy of withdrawing troops. i think that too often we are given a false choice. either the war was a mistake we must stay there forever. i think it's important when attacked to make your enemies know we will pursue them to the ends of the earth. that i think has accomplished killing some of bin laden and most of his lieutenants. that is helpless to push back on the war on terror. had a lot of success. we are not in a peerless nation. it's important to bring the troops home at this time. we are not there to be nationbuilding force either. where they are to build a war on terror, we've had success is time to bring our troops home. chris: pitcairn as i discussed with jake sullivan, a lot can go wrong as we saw and iraq. a terror group can reconstitute or a new terror
group like isis can form. at if the taliban takes over that is certainly a possibility, what happens to the life, the bright full life those millions of afghan women and girls weren't leading, do they end up having to go back into the burqa? >> that is a very real concern. and certainly when you're hearing and seeing when reporting on the ground in afghanistan. this policy that president biden announced this week is a pretty much the exact same policy that he was arguing for in 2009 when the obama administration did its big review of policy in afghanistan. he lost that fight. i did a troop surge a draw down and discovered the afghan military was completely ill-equipped for handling its own security. so, this is going to be joe biden's opportunity to discover whether a policy that
he himself has advocated for over a decade, is going to work. and i think -- you cannot help but be very concerned about the state of what is going to happen on the ground there. especially all of these women who were essentially imprisoned in their own homes. who in the last 20 years have been able to go to school and have careers. i do think this is more than humanitarian organizations are up to. >> i'm going to break it up there. i will said talk to a top white house official this week just before the president's speech and asked that exact question for his official said look we are sensitive will do every thing we can to support women admit that is not the role of the u.s. military to solve domestic problems inside afghanistan. right we have to take a break here. up next will discuss the trial of police officer derek
chauvin as it heads of the jury tomorrow. but first as we been telling it fox news sunday turns 25 next week. as we look back will share some memorable moments including sit downs with several presidents. >> why didn't you do more to put obama check out of business that's the difference we may and some. i tried. >> some people wonder do you worry about terrorism and you feel the threat of terrorism as they do? >> there's not a president who's taken more terrorist off the field than me. mech we have the seventh highest mortality rate in the world. >> think that one of the lowest mortality rates. >> we had 900 deaths on a single day >> can you please give me the mortality at kayleigh's right near prospective feel a tremendous enterprise vc not just your children but your grandchildren carrying on that family traditions?
chris: police officer derek chauvin decided not to take the stand's murder trial for the death of george floyd. both sides make their closing arguments tomorrow. we are back now with the panel. marie, as we say the chauvin case closing arguments tomorrow than it goes to the jury. what are your thoughts about the trial so far and the possible reaction to the verdict?
>> will history tells us police officer's are usually not convicted when they are accused of these kinds of crimes. but we all saw that video. so many of us have watched this trial and heard testimony from expert after expert that said george floyd would be live if derek chauvin had not put his knee on his neck for all those minutes. if he is not convicted. if derek chauvin is not convicted it will feel too too many people i could gross miscarriage of justice. just since the trial started, chris, we have seen a more young black men killed at the hands of police officers. come and their army uniform harassed by police officer. this is bigger than this trial. with this trout represent such an important moment to see if we can actually get justice when the evidence is in front of us for all of us to see. chris: but you know mark, the judge has made this clear. all of those events outside of
minneapolis outside the courtroom are supposed to be totally irrelevant. and justice is supposed to be blind. your thoughts about the trial? we all fear obviously what might happen if there is either a hung jury or an acquittal in this case. >> you no chris comment last year after the riots and an opportunity to travel with vice president pence to minneapolis and some of the communities that were ravaged by the riots. the thing i struggle with we met with minority business owners, hispanics, asians and african-american is how ashley pleaded with the police to protect them. they were at the's biggest benefactors and support us in asking the police to please help protect us from riots but think it many cases the media has done an injustice here. or in some cases networks are openly cheering for the prosecution. and as a post telling the jury be the one to make a decision here. i think it's creating a cauldron that perhaps can boil over. think it's also important in
this moment for your viewers to remember it was only a year ago there was a bill offered on the senate floor for police reform. and that built was filibustered by the very same people today who are saying the filibuster is a relic of a jim crow era. they killed tim scott's bill for police reform. unfortunate there's a lot of rhetoric here that's racially based. i hope there can be a lot of healing in this community. i hope and pray as the did jury make this decision that media will report on the facts versus opinions. chris: i want to pick up on something that marie said. because in fact this week we had two more cases that we learned about of police shooting young men of color. we were able to seep both cases because of police and body cameras. how much put the first video
up now the first is daunte wright who died at a traffic stop in a suburb of minneapolis when the police officer said sheet ms. took her gun for a laser. and then there was a 13-year-old adam who was shot by a policeman in chicago responding to reports of gunfire in the neighborhood. and there you see him at that moment. and here was vice president harris on the dante wright case. >> law enforcement must be held to the highest standards of accountability. at the same time, we know that folks will keep dying if we do not fully address racial injustice and inequities in our country. jackie: these are split-second decisions that police have to make with their lives at stake. is it fair to blame what we saw in those two videos on racial injustice and a broken system as vice president harris did? >> there certainly is a racial reckoning underway in this country.
but i do think we also have to take a very hard look at the training of our police officers. a veteran officer could mistake her taser for her gun? should police be involved in traffic stops that do not involve issues of public safety? we have seen so many of those episodes and tragically. and what we saw in chicago, very perilous thing is when police are involved in apprehending suspects on foot. these footage chases have also had some horrific results. so i think we do need to look as well at the training our police officers are given.en. then also, what is their mission? should they be out there dealing with mentally ill , substance addicted
people in ways that might be better handled by medical professionals or social workers? i do think a big part of this we should be looking beyond the racial element to what we expect of our police and how we train them. chris: mark, i think we can all distinguish between derek chauvin with his knee on the neck of george floyd for nine and half minutes, when floyd's hands were handcuffed behind his back, and those cases which are very active situations. or someone was running away, shots had been fired or the dante wright case where he was resisting arrest. your thoughts about vice president harris comment in the comments of other people in the biden administration? >> well again, chris, i was so impacted by so many of the minority business owners we met with who were asking for the police as hell. the reality is it's not helpful when you see someone
like maxine waters out today saying there needs to be more confrontation in the street. the reality is we need to turn down the volume on this a little bit. the vast majority, the vast, vast majority of police are out there in our communities putting their lives on the line for us to protect us. and yes, be there are some bad apples in the should be crop prosecuted. in the reality that should not be its brought indictment of the police and the vast majority are protecting our country. and again to karen's point about reforms that's exactly what tim scott was proposing last year with more training and funding for that training. in the same democrats are alleging allegations on the filibustered kill the tim scott bill the very same things he's asking for. maria got about 30 seconds final thought. >> democratic led house passed the george floyd and policing active put in place actually more reforms than tim scott was proposing.
i hope congress will take the issue seriously. take up the george floyd act and come together to address this. because it may not be everyone. it certainly isn't. it is too many and it is exhausting. so hopefully our communities, our police department's and congress can actually do something to make this problem better. chris: thank you marie, thank you panel see you all next sunday put up next our power player of the week. admiral william mick raven buried the commander of u.s. special forces for some of its most daring operations. he will tell you what it takes to make a hero. we made usaa insurance for members like martin. an air force veteran made of doing what's right, not what's easy. so when a hailstorm hit, usaa reached out before he could even inspect the damage. that's how you do it right. usaa insurance is made just the way martin's family needs it with hassle-free claims, he got paid before his neighbor even got started.
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♪♪ chris: there's a popular meme online that says not all heros wear capes. when an ordinary person pulls off something extraordinary. the idea is we can all be heros for those close to us. our power player of the week tells us how. ♪♪ >> if you look at the textbook definition of a hero, it's someone we admire for their noble qualities. and i actually think that's a pretty good definition. chris: admiral william mcif raven knows about heroes. he was a navy seal for 37 years,
then took command of the u.s. special forces that rescued captain phillips, captured saddam hussein and took down osama bin laden. in his new book, "the hero code," mcraven offers a blueprint for finding the hero in each of us. some of the qualities you talk about in "the hero code" seem obvious, courage, sacrifice, but i think some may surprise people like compassion. >> yeah. i do think when you take a look at compassion, again, these noble virtues are really about are you making the people around you better. chris: mcraven gives the example of an actor who brought compassion right into a meeting of top u.s. brass in afghanistan. >> in comes this civilian. he says my name's gary sinise. and he went on to make this very compassionate and this passionate plea to general to get some c-130s in order to bring school supplies to the children. and you could see the entire tenor of the room change. when you see this compassion
come forward. this great, again, noble quality. it really changes everything about, you know, your own internal belief in the humanity of man. chris: mcraven tells of meeting another hero when he was late to greet president obama, and a young airman refused to let him into an area of bagram air base because he wasn't on her list. >> all of a sudden arms are flailing, watches are being tapped the. of course, i'm thinking, yeah, or i'm a three-star admiral, and she looks me in the eye and says, sir, i have a job to do. you are not on the list of approved people to enter. well, about ten minutes later, you know, we get the word, we pass through. all the way back we come back through the same gate, i stop, i get out of the car and i said, airman, do you know that i was ten minutes late briefing the president of the united states? yes, sir. and i said, you can come work for me anytime. and then she said something to me, she said, sir, i was just
doing my duty. doing your duty in life and doing it to the best of your ability is important. it is a noble virtue. it is a noble quality, and i think it's what makes our heroes out there. chris: finally, how do we tap into what you say is the hero in all of us? >> i'm hoping that as people read "the hero code," they will see that these values can be learned. you can learn to be courageous. you can learn to be humble. and i really hope that this younger generation will read this book, they will see that these are learned qualities because we need them to be our heroes. we need them to move us ahead as a society. chris: admiral, thank you. >> my pleasure, chris. thanks. chris: just days from now, may 1st, will mark the tenth anniversary of one of mcraven's most daring and important missions, the raid that took down osama bin
laden. have a great week, and we'll see you next "fox news sunday." ♪ ♪hu ♪ maria: good sunday morning, everyone. thanks so much for joining me. welcome to "sunday morning futures," i'm maria bartiromo. coming up, freedom and prosperity in florida. governor ron desantis on the economic engines firing up the sunshine state and his latest lawsuit filing against joe biden's radical agenda. plus, america tested on the world stage. the president sent his vp to welcome japan's foreign minister as china lays down its law in hong kong and circles its wagons in taiwan and russia. plus, the ranking member of the house intel committ