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andrew cuomo's administration created a "hostile work environment" right with fear and intimidation. there will be a lot of news on this throughout the day. we will have coverage on the fox news channel. q for joining us throughout, thanks for watching "the -- >> fox news alert: details of bombshell sexual assault allegations against new york governor andrew, the state attorney general and her investigators announced the results of their investigation. here is a state attorney general letitia james moments ago. >> gen. james: the investigation found that governor cuomo sexually harassed many women, many of whom were young women, by engaging in unwanted groping kisses, hugging, and by making inappropriate comments.
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further, the governor and his senior team took action to retaliate against at least one former employee from coming forward with her story. her truth. >> emily: this is "outnumbered." investigators have described in vivid detail how governor cuomo allegedly molested his multiple victims, and said he retaliated against a former worker who complained. the investigation alleges that cuomo violated multiple state and federal laws. bryan llenas is live with more on what we just learned. >> bryan: they just released a
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155 pages report, and in it, it has the accounts from 11 people that say governor andrew cuomo sexually harassed them. this was an independent investigation. they did not brief criminal charges, but this was a report from the governor's office, and it was done by independent investigators, and attorney general letitia james del mike james. the details are graphic. executive assistant who accused the governor of groping her, that that did happen. i also found that the governor inappropriately touched a state trooper as part of his security detail. it was into one independent investigators describing some of what just learned. we don't have that, but on top of that, bottom line is that these are two independent investigators deputized by the
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attorney general. this was a former u.s. attorney in manhattan. the governor's office has attacked him and the attorney general for saying that this report was politically motivated, and the governor has said he wanted to come out and speak about this, that he was eager to tell his side of the story. attorney general investigators have found that the governor violated multiple state and federal sexual harassment laws, created a toxic work environment in which these women did not feel safe to come forward, and if they did, they were retaliated against, and on top of all fats, they they were saying that ultimately, they went into depth at how horrific this was. for the governor, for the last five months, he's been operating as though things are normal. he has been flanked by politicians day after day, having event after event, just missed calls his resignation,
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and right now all eyes go to the state assembly, which is conducting an impeachment investigation. it's now in the hands of the democrats of the state of new york to decide the fate of governor andrew cuomo. this report has come out, and now the state assembly, run by democrats, will have to decide whether they move forward with impeachment. carl hastings, the state assembly speaker in new york, a democrat, has said this report, before it came out, would not necessarily enough to start impeachment proceedings, that they would need to wait for the conclusion of this state impeachment investigation. remember, governor cuomo is not just under investigation for sexual harassment allegations, but also for essential using this $5.1 million pandemic memoirs -- as a federal investigation by the fbi as to whether or not his administration. covid-19 data as it relates to the nursing home situation and
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deaths there. there is a lot to chew on here. this report has come out and substantiated and corroborated allegations we have all heard over the last few months from 11 people. 74,000 texts, emails, documents, 179 interviews with former and current staff members, and the governor, who has been fund-raising in moving towards a fourth term campaign, potentially, is now going to have to react to this. he says he's eager to. we will bring up his comments when he does. >> emily: thank you so much for that excellent recap. taking this a step further, we've heard a lot of questions at the end of that press conference, where the attorney general says "i was tasked with this investigation, my work has concluded." the report speaks for itself. she has named participants in the cuomo administration, not just the governor, with these
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conclusions of wrongdoing. what can viewers look forward to in the way of accountability or next steps for the other members of governor cuomo's administration that the attorney general has called "toxic" question rick >> bryan: great question. what the attorney general was saying here is that her job has concluded. in terms of criminal charges, it will be up to the prosecutors. these 11 women who have come forward, they can decide if they want to take this to civil court if it's within the statue of limitations, or take it to the police and file a report. those who enabled the governor in his office, that's a question i can't answer, but i do know that the governor, the recourse we have is political, it's through the state assembly. it will be up to the state assembly to decide his fate and ultimately, i believe his fate will be tied to those mentioned in this report, to varying
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degrees. we still have to go through this report, but ultimately, they did give detail about that 11 hour conversation that the governor had. he was interviewed for this report, reportedly, for 11 hours on july 17th. it was supposed to be contentious. he admitted to some things, but did not admit to others. in the course of that interview, he says that the independent investigator was politically motivated and out to get him, which i think, again, is something we can look forward to moving forward. i don't think they are going to forget about that. we will see how the governor reacts. >> emily: thank you so much, brian dennis. we will look to you as more developments occur. kayleigh, i come to you on this. brian mentioned a political witch hunts, and allegations that governor cuomo has called "the investigation --" this
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morning, the attorney general said she found it offensive. what do you see in the way of further comments for mayor de blasio? we saw him earlier today, just show that life spot where he said "i'm going to reserve judgment until i read more." what can we expect from top democrat party leaders on the national stage, and terms of their reaction? >> kayleigh: i think we should hear from them. this will be asked in a white house press briefing. there will be a white house reaction to this, pressure to hear from lawmakers like nancy pelosi and others. they have been issue in issues like this. kyrsten sinema will be asked to react, among others. there's pressure in the democrat party building on the governor. i wouldn't imagine they are huddled in his mansion strategizing about what to do. i don't anticipate him stepping down. it would be political suicide for him to do so, but it's the right thing to do. the allegations are grotesque, appalling. one woman saying her career in
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public service ended because the governor was bored and lonely. this is a classic example of a man who is drunk on power, who abused his position. take a walk down memory lane. you had "abc news" reporting on the fact that there is a groundswell of cuomo 42020, running for president, "usa today" saying this is america's governor, a profile in forbes talking about how compassionate he was, a study sy leader in covid. what was going on was appalling, the sexual assault allegations, nursing home scandal, book scandal, the testing for his family. this man was a monster! an absolute monster. the right thing to do is step down. i don't think he will do so. he will follow the playbook and ride it out, but it's no doubt the right thing to do, stepping down.
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>> emily: kayleigh, here is what new york investigator and clark said just moments ago. >> on the vendor >> on november 16th, 2020, in the executive mansion, the executive assistant number one -- reached under her blouse to grab her breast. this is a culmination of inappropriate conduct, including intimate hugs where the governor held her so closely that her breasts were pressed against his body and ran his hands up and down her back while he did so. there were several occasions on which the governor grabbed her butt. executive assistant number one vowed she would take these violations "to the grave." she was terrified that if she spoke out, she would lose her job. she broke down in front of colleagues she heard the governor on march 3rd, 2021, in his press conference, claimed that he had never touched anyone
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inappropriately. >> emily: kayleigh, what we are hearing there is partly what the attorney general described as a culture of fear and flirtation, essentially normalizing illegal behavior, while holding his voice under a sum of fear that if they did anything wrong, they would be severely retaliated against to the form of a "abusive environment." >> kayleigh: that's right. the one accuser -- it makes your stomach turn. the one saying "i was eviction f sexual assault and he weaponize that against me." her history, pain, past, a governor of a huge state using her pain, twisting it saying "i date women under 25," when she was 22 years old, and all she wanted to do was to her job. this is gut wrenching imagery here that we have learned detail by detail, as we come through this report. what makes matters even worse, emily, i believe we have the
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sound bite here. is this image of governor cuomo, that i cannot get out of my head, and i have heard these gruesome details -- >> have you ever had a relationship with a fellow employee? >> gov. cuomo: intimates, you mean sexual relationship? don't just read the question. you have to know what it means. >> reporter: with a fellow statesman? >> gov. cuomo: intimate has a number of manifestations. i think we have an intimate relationship, don't you think that? yeah, not a sexual relationship. [laughs] no. no. >> reporter: no to governor -- >> gov. cuomo: made you uncomfortable with that question, didn't i? [laughs] >> kayleigh: smug, arrogant, and cruel. imagine you are that young woman who has been sexually assaulted twice and that's what you
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watched, a cackling governor who has assaulted you. >> smug narcissist, that's what i'm thinking when i watch that. he laughed it off like it's nothing. among the 11 women coming forward, many of those who had come forward before, i guarantee you there will be more to follow. kudos to those brave women who came forward during all of this. certainly, the nursing home disaster, and the abuse of power, giving special privileges to those within his close family to get the covid vaccine and tests. 74,000 pieces of evidence, 179 interviews, the state trooper was a surprise to me, to hear the story of his accusers, especially a state trooper. a 22-year-old woman is riding in an elevator with the love-guv, despicable in his own right that he had that nickname that he was proud of. his brother used it on
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international and national cable news. nonetheless, she worked in his protective detail. we learned today that he ran his finger down her spine in an elevator saying "hey, you." hey love guv: game over. after this, with the new york state assembly, which they will convene and have to decide whether or not they go forward with impeachments -- can you imagine the backlash? let's remind our viewers that the new york state assembly is made up of democrats, and our governor is a democrat, our mayor is a democrat. home to stand behind the sky who has completely abused his how long do you stand behind this guy who has abused his power? it's a matter of time whether this man faces charges. the fact that he has not up until this point is, quite frankly, not shocking, but disappointing. the fact that not one police report has been filed against this mock -- there has not been
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a police report. all these women have accused him of what letitia james just said, she's got a pile of evidence to support -- the fact that he has not been criminally charged at this point is another example of the abuse of power that has been going on in our country for so long, and too long, and hopefully examples will be made today. >> emily: the albany police department is investigating the incident of the breast groping incident. i'm glad you brought up the state trooper, because to me, that illustrated that power dynamic, the picture the investigator painted with a trooper was holding the door open for him, while he was doing that that was one of the instances where he touched her "from trust to privates." we know it's appalling and illegal. moving forward, the civil rights attorney and fox news tribute are leo terrel is joining us by phone with reaction. can you hear us? what is your topline reaction to
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all of this developing now? >> leo: thank you for having me, emily. the bottom line is this: he is a predator. he should not be given preferential treatment because he's governor. there should be civil charges filed. there has to be an investigation. i want to mention one other thing. it's great to have that 11 hours of testimony from him, because those words will come back to haunt him. that's a wealth of information for state lawmakers, cello prosecutors, a criminal prosecutor to pursue. i guarantee you, he probably lied in the statement he gave to the ag. overall, it's the next 48 hours that will be critical among the district attorney's office that files the charges, and whether or not there will be a series of civil lawsuits, and what he will actually do as governor.
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i agree with kayleigh. i don't believe he's going to resign, because that position provides him with some form of temporary protection. >> emily: leo, do you foresee from him any type of mea culpa? as bryan illustrated, we've seen a change of his behavior, although he has never admitted, always has carried that hubris as he surrounds himself with his advisors and carries on day today. do you see from him, after this, any change in that tactic, and a from him up until now, absolutely digging in and refusing to admit he has engaged in anything less than what he interpreted as "acceptable behavior?" >> leo: the next 48 hours, i believe his team -- there is a combination of a political/legal combination going on. because he is the governor, the political advantage he has come of the legal system is after
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him, so he's going to use his political position to try to provide as much protection for him. if the advisor she has politically and legally will be in his ear for the next 48 hours. i want to mention another thing. democrats use the term "systemic racism, systemic harassment." you have systemic harassment. he want the fox viewers to hear that. here is a perfect example, these 11 women show that there is a pattern and practice of sexual harassment. i will tell you now, from a civil standpoint, he is liable. if those individuals, his supervisor, his support staff, work in a managerial position, they could be held civilly liable, because they participated in this pattern and practice of a governmental agency harassing women. that is very significant. >> emily: that's exactly right. the investigator specifically
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said that toxic, hostile or abusive culture is what allowed the harassment to occur and persist, to your points, to create that pattern and practice. it was essentially this cesspool of fertile ground for this abusive, illegal behavior. can you walk us through that civil angle you are approaching? we have a three year statute of limitations on the federal side. what do viewers need to understand about the civil versus criminal liability he is facing, and what they might expect coming down the pipe for him. >> leo: as a civil rights attorney for 30 years, i've handled these type of cases. for the civil side, the key is to find out the civil statute of limitations within new york state. if any of these acts occurred within that time period, emily, in order to establish this pattern of practice, but things
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occurring outside of the statute of limitations would be applicable to impose liability. if i'm a civil rights attorney, i'm looking at these civil cases, looking at what portions of each of these 11 victims i can use within the statute of limitations, and once i get that, i can bring as much as i can into the case. there is an argument of sexual discrimination and harassment. the golden one is retaliation. you get a multitude of claims against the governor and his staff, sexual discrimination, retaliation. it's easier to prove retaliation than it is the actual discrimination, because all you are looking for are adverse acts of conduct after the complaint of harassment or discrimination has been reported. retaliation is always easier to prove than the act itself. on the criminal side, again, it applies to the statute of limitations. that is where the district attorney of new york, as it
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relates to come in my opinion, no question, the groping of the b27, that is definitely an assault, definitely straight the groping of the breasts, that is definitely an assault, and in my opinion, would result in a charge against the governor. the district -- alban he will pursue that immediately. you have a criminal track and the civil track. i think from this point on, you will not hear a peep from governor cuomo regarding these acts. anything will be used against him. the biggest mistake he made, if i would defend him, which i would never do, is that statement, the 11 hour statement he gave to the attorney general. that's going to come back to haunt him. >> emily: it remains to be seen whether he can keep his mouth shut, leo. after mike i don't know if he has demonstrated that restraint in the
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[laughter] i don't know if he has demonstrated that restraint in the past. thank you, leo terrell, as always. we will have you standing by. >> our own janice dean from fox news is joining us via phone. janice, you have been at the forefront of another cuomo scandal, losing both of your in-laws. i can't imagine. i have seen your pain, your tears. they are part of the nursing home scandal. how do you feel today questioning >> janice: i have always said that i don't care what rings him down. women, strong women, i am holding your hand today, standing with you. brave women that came forward. it shows you the power and abuse that this man thought he had come and he has been doing it for years now. i have been fighting for justice for my in-laws since may of last year, when we found out he was putting covid positive patience in a nursing home, and then he
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covered up the numbers for months and months to sell a $5.1 million book to celebrate himself in the middle of pandemic. there is not only the sexual assault and harassment charges, but we are still waiting for justice when it comes to over 15,000 seniors that died in nursing homes. i think that's due in part to his march 25th order to put effective patience into nursing homes. not only that, we had the vip covid test he was giving to his brother and families, while nursing homes could not get any to test incoming patience. there are state resources he used for that $5.1 million book, and so many other scandals that plague this governor. today, i am brace, salute, thank the lord for these women that were brave enough to tell their stories and show what a monster this man is. >> kayleigh: that monster, i remember being in the trump
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white house. every day, we were compared to the great governor andrew cuomo, who is holding the press conferences, while making horrible decisions in the background on nursing homes. he tried to deflect blame to the former president on that. we saw some form of accountability today. do you think we will see the governor step down, move aside? >> janice: i don't think so. i think he's going to be steadfast. i think it's up to the assembly in albany to get there impeachment in line. they have enough to impeach this governor. they've had enough for weeks! they continue to stonewall. now is the time to get the impeachment going. we need those lawmakers to stand up. they have been stonewalling, they have been weak, and they have been waiting to find out, i think, for the attorney general to hear how this report would be. you've got your proof, put it in writing. >> kayleigh: that's right, and
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do you think we will see national pressure from democrats? kirsten gillibrand comes to mind. she led the charge against al franken. she's been silent on this, not demanding the resignation of andrew cuomo. biden has done the opposite, saying he must step down. you think that national pressure -- you've been around state lawmakers -- can force their hand to call for and moved for impeachment? >> janice: they need to stand up today. i know that they have months ago when this first started to become front-line page in the newspaper. they did say "if these accusations are real, the governor should resign." they need to do that today and make sure impeachment is on make sure impeachment is underway. listen, i want justice for my in-laws, just as for the 15,000 that aren't able to testify. if this is easier to digest for
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democrats to get rid of the sky, i'm all for it. >> kayleigh: can you update our viewers on the status of justice for those 15,000 seniors, investigations? update us where that stands in parallel to these other very egregious findings here from the new york attorney general. >> janice: the attorney general said there are multiple investigations into this governor, and a nursing home and she was one of them. the fact that he covered up the over 15,000 that died, why? the book, of course, the timeline shows he covered up the numbers to cell is $5.1 million book. those investigations are ongoing. today is just one piece, and that was to give the women their day, to say that "we are not going to take this anymore. you broke your own law, governor, and you need to pay for it." >> kayleigh: emily, i think you have a question for janice.
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>> emily: janice, this is emily. i wanted to ask you about the findings in the report about the retaliation by the administration against these women who came forward. do you experience a taste of that when you used your platform and strength to speak up about your family situation and the egregious nature of the administration's handling in the nursing home in covid deaths? i wanted to get your thoughts on those allegations and conclusions now of retaliation by this administration that you experience. >> janice: i believe 1000%. i experienced it on a smaller level from one of his top aides that said "she doesn't know anything except the weather." come up with something more original as a party. i also heard from other people saying you go against this guy and are going to have a mark next to you and to watch your back. those are the things i was hearing when i was starting to tell my family's story.
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i believe those women were demeaned. i believe that his aides were calling employers and friends to find out dirt on these women. i believe that chris cuomo at cnn did the same thing. he should be looked at as well. the administration on cnn time? we need to look into that as well! >> emily: does this reassure you at all? are we one step in the right direction, for all the pain these new york families have suffered, yours included? do you see this is a reassuring sign, or are you still not holding your breath in terms of the accountability of the governor could and should face? >> janice: i hope. we are on the side of the angels. i believe there are angels on earth, and i believe angels in heaven are helping this stomach us with this investigation. today is a big day, and i think the attorney general for her investigation into this
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governor. she's a democrat, and she was helped to be elected governor cuomo, so for her to stand with the women, i hope we get some justice. we have to find out what were the origins put covid positive patience in a nursing home. i don't think it's getting the headlines it deserves. it should be a top story in new york state. we've lost over 15,000 seniors and he tried to cover it up. >> emily: a thank you for your thoughts today, janice. you've been so emblematic as a warrior. you've been leading this crusade. you are the example of using your platform and voice. we are grateful for that and our hearts go out to your family as well. >> janice: thank you. i have to think fox news as well for letting me have this platform, so thank you. >> emily: a new reaction from governor cuomo's accusers. we are awaiting white house reaction to the bombshell investigation. more on this breaking news story in just a moment. stay with us. is ignite
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>> fox news alert: we are waiting to hear from governor andrew cuomo. he's going to be holding a news conference this power after the state attorney general and her investigators announced the results of their bombshell investigation. just a reminder to our viewers here. we wait to hear from governor andrew cuomo, 1:00 p.m. 1:00 p.m., live from albany. we'll wait to hear whether he will resign, stay put. a reminder to our viewers that biden has made his position clear. we will get white house reaction as well. when asked, president biden, should he resign if the allegations turn out to be true? he answered emphatically "yes." he went further to say that he anticipated, perhaps,
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prosecution. on that note, i will bring in mercedes: with us here. fox news legal analyst. u.s. president joe biden, who said "i think he will end up being prosecuted." if these allegations turn out to be true, and we find out that, in fact, they work, do you believe we will see a prosecution? >> there is overwhelming evidence. this is a 155 page report, 179 witnesses were interviewed, 11 accusers, and took a very fine, exceptional lawyers that ran this investigation. it is undoubtably clear that there is a very large percentage that this case will also be prosecuted criminally and pursued civilly. these individuals, especially the ones that have retaliatory acts, that's a significant issue. on the civil side, and on the criminal side, allegations of
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groping, grabbing, kissing, all of which are unlawful, if done without consent. >> a reminder that we have yet to hear from two senators, who both stopped short of calling for a resignation. it seems very difficult now to avoid this reaction. we have a sound but i want to play from the attorney general last hour. let's play that sound bite. >> governor cuomo sexually harassed multiple women, many of whom were young women. engaged in unwanted groping. kisses, hugging, and by making inappropriate comments. >> after the governor had become single, he asked the trooper how old she was. when she responded her late '20s, he said "that's also all sold for him." he asked how much of an age difference he thought he could have between him and a girlfriend and how the public would accept it.
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she suggested it might be a good idea to stick with women as old as your daughter. she deflected from the conversation by asking the governor who she was looking for task he responded he was looking for somebody who can handle pain. another time, when the governor said the trooper was engaged, he asked her why she would want to get married, because, among other things, your sex drive goes down. employees were counted a pattern insensitive comments and conversations. >> one young woman saying it's heartbreaking that her time in public service ended because the governor was "bored." what are the next steps for these young women who have incurred so much suffering is this investigation is played out? >> certainly, if there are criminal charges, prosecutors will rely heavily on their participation in the criminal process, including testimony. if it's on the civil side, some
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of that may still be able to sue civilly, especially if there is a continued business argument, meaning that there is this type of -- it's not bound by the statute of limitations, but rather, continuous. their participation will be critical to bring these claims against governor cuomo. we can see the possibility and probability of both tracks taking place, where there are civil suits against the state of new york, the governor individually. professional status, his public capacity, private capacity, any in the interest end. under local laws, there is a section that talks about those enablers, could be sued individually. anyone within the administration under cuomo that enabled him in any way can be brought as aiders and abettors, and find themselves individually liable. that's on the civil side.
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criminally, any aiders and abettors can be brought in with specific allegations against them. >> kayleigh: emily, i believe we have a reaction from kirsten gillibrand, who said it's deeply disturbing, calling on him to resign. this is a very serious report. emily come over to your. >> emily: that's exactly right. the full statement here. "as i said before, these allegations are deeply disturbing because kirsten gillibrand now, saying she is just reading the reports. "along with the fact that these have been corroborated with this investigation, 11 women coming forward, it's deeply disturbing. these actions are inappropriate for the governor of their states. i believe he should resign. my heart goes out to the women who would come forward, and i think them for their courage. this is a very serious report." mercedes, my question to you is, as you outline the potential liability for those additional
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participants here, you said everyone can be found as aiding and abetting, or their own individual liability. how much more investigation would have to occur, the starr report, over 150 page report conducted by the attorney general's office? is that enough for the prosecution to take place, or do viewers have to look forward to another year of contemporaneous investigations for more accountability to have in customer >> mercedes: great question. this was such a thorough investigation, the 199 witnesses interviewed, it's likely to have enough evidence to bring that type of claim against those aiders and abettors. if there's anything that needs to be done in supplemental fashion, especially on the civil side, they can do it through discovery, some questions under interrogatories, impose individuals that will lead to other individuals.
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there's enough checks and balances, of processes within the civil structure to allow for that to happen without another undue delay to getting the case underway. >> emily: thank you so much for joining us this morning. insightful legal analysis. bringing it back to the full couch, part of what was so riveting about this pressure held yesterday, brought forth with the attorney general about what has been brought forward here, verbally what was in there, what sounded almost like a truth mobilization, war strategy that the administration embarked on when these accusers came forward, specifically, i'm quoting the investigator, they mobilized to attack and neutralize this, including the use of the press, detailing the document between governor cuomo and his aides about victim
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shaming. we had an insight into the evil imaginations of this administration led by governor cuomo. >> now we are hidden from his colleagues, the new york state senate majority leader, andrea stewart cousins, released a statement calling for governor cuomo to step down. step down previously. as for the biden reaction, back in march, if this investigation turns out to be credible, that he should step down, should await new reaction, but it does come to mind that 160 lawmakers back in march called for him to resign or step down or face impeachment. that means we are going to get that title wave of reaction from those people again. i have had indications what governor cuomo's strategy in fighting back could be. he may bring up some gubernatorial political
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aspirations by attorney general letitia james, or that june kim has investigated him in the past. he may take a strategy that this is a witch hunt and also, as janice dean pointed out, that all eyes are now on the impeachment inquiries, and some people had said that there's a lot of lawmakers in albany that although he has faced backlash, there's a faction of that have his back. some people feel they are dragging their feet on this impeachment inquiry. we will have to see if this attorney general report changes that. a recent poll found that he wants to run for governor again, and recent poll found that 60% of voters would rather see him resign or not run for office. his political future is in question. it's one thing if he's going to face criminal charges from local jurisdiction, but as of now, it's hard to believe, if you
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would run for office again, but that's because this is in the news cycle. it felt like that in march. when these things die down, it seems like politicians have a new wave of political future that one would not have thought possible, could be possible again. we are going to have to wait and hear from the president to see what he has to say on that front come and how that could affect his political future as well. >> emily: great points. do you foresee that although democrats who have stood by governor cuomo, do you foresee them wading away now with the conclusions of this report, this public shaming? do you see it happening, and potentially that his power is -- >> julie: i do. they have no choice. we just mentioned earlier, and kayleigh had talked about it as well about the president, he
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basically said that if these findings were going to come forward and there was fact based evidence, that the attorney general was going to push forward on validating all of these accusations, than absolutely, not only should he be impeached or step down, but he could face prosecution. i also think it's interesting, the circle of protection that he received by his staffers. it would be interesting to see what kind of charges, if he is charged, who won his staff will be charged? the retaliation and protection was not completed just by the governor himself. he had a circle of women, which is even more disappointing. marissa's former top aide, who basically muffled one of the 11 accusers, and then participated in actual retaliation, which is why they described the work culture, anyone who worked in his circle, as being "toxic,
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abusive, and vindictive." janice dean made a perfect example when she talked about the retaliation she received for standing up for the 15,000 plus seniors who died in the state. she received backlash. who would attack the family, the grieving family that just lost their elderly loved ones? that's the tip of the iceberg. i believe there's more to come, especially when it comes to these sexual harassment accusers. i believe these women have opened the door. i think we will be hearing from more women in days to come. >> emily: we are waiting to hear from governor cuomo himself, who is said to hold a news conference. we will take you to. ch money can liberty mutual save you? one! two! three! four! five! 72,807! 72,808... dollars.
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>> word is that witnesses have been used repeatedly -- including "toxic, hostile, abusive." others use words like "fear, intimidation, bullying, vindictive." >> that's new york investigator joon kim described in the
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investigation. we are minutes away from hearing from governor cuomo, holding a news conference this hour. it will be interesting to hear his reaction. i want to read some sound bites from former new york lawmaker hillary clinton, and democratic nominee, calling for this investigation. aoc, andrea cayo cortez, likewise calling for an independent investigation. saying this is extremely serious and painful. short of a resignation call, but we will await reaction from congresswoman cortez, and governor cuomo himself. there is at least one call we know of now with kirsten gillibrand demanding a resignation. what do you expect we will hear from governor cuomo in mere minutes watch golf >> there's going to beat >> thank you for bringing me back, kayleigh.
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there is going to be a script, not going to reference, individually, the victims. i think he's going to make general estimates, something like "i'm going to fight these charges, they are not true. i'm going to stay in office." he's going to make broad statements without commenting, specifically, on anything he said in that 11 hour investigation. expect a broad, general "i'm going to fight this out, new yorkers believe in me and trust me." that's what will happen in this press conference he's about to give. that's what i expect. >> emily: as kayleigh detailed, some of the lukewarm responses we've been hearing, do you foresee more of a public groundswell eroding support for this governor? do you cede the public demanding accountability from the democrat leaders, and also this office within new york? >> leo: good question, emily. i will tell you: i think there
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is the initial blowback is going to receive from democratic or supporters, because they have to. this is the comingling of politics and the law. they have to say something critical, but just like 4-5 months ago when these charges came about, a lot of criticism, and it died down. i think he is going to try to wait this out. i go back to what kayleigh says. it's powerful for him to stay in office. he gets protection, legally, a law firm to protect him. if there's actions taken against him now, emily, isn't it amazing? you get the attorney general, the taxpayers finding him guilty, but it might be the same taxpayers who provide legal protection in his official capacity. i want to bring two more points, if i make them a very important. the magic phrase is "pattern and practice," because of the victims, but the key here is the only people who will be held liable in the instance of cuomo are managers and supervisors who
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have control over these victims, not everyone, but managers and supervisors. one final point. these victims have to think long and hard. trust me, cuomo will hire a defense firm in these victims, who have gone through a lot, will be tormented with long litigations. they will be deposed. they might have 2-3 years of their lives if they go the civil route. that's always agonizing for a plaintiff. do you want to go to war in litigation? kayleigh, we know the litigation process is slow and draining, so all those factors are in display. the governor knows it. >> emily: thank you, leo. >> julie: leo, i will come to you in a second, but i wanted to read a quote from one of cuomo's accusers. "thank you to everyone who expressed support out loud and in whispers for hogs, and
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squeezes, and texts. thank you." here's another tweet from an accuser. "yes, meaningful report for women everywhere, not just new york." leo, i have to ask you -- we have to remind our viewers. what is incredible and all of this is that the governor's own office gave the attorney general of the green light to open this investigation into him. he knows himself -- nobody knows better than governor cuomo what he has been accused of and what he is guilty of. he went ahead and gave one of the most powerful law offices in this country the open door to go ahead and go forward with this investigation. didn't he know this was coming question mike >> leo: yes, but he had no choice. democrats, it is the "me too" party. there was an allegation, a
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complaint, but he had no choice. people need to remember, cuomo is a lawyer. he knows the game! he had to do it. did he expect a bombshell report? probably not. it's devastating, but this guy, i would give him credit: he is a fighter. he will stick this out. the key here is this: do those victims have the same determination to go to court and fight him tooth and nail in a courtroom? that's a decision that will be made later. one final point. some of these victims may be vindicated right now, some of them may want to go to court. we don't know the minds of the 11 victims. >> carley: we are talking about the sexual harassment report that came out, but it's important to remember that there are a lot of other investigations going on as it relates to governor cuomo. the fbi, still investigating the
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nursing home cobra. letitia james took a question and reminded everybody that her investigation into him isn't done. her office is also investigating whether or not he used state resources to write is coronavirus memoir. what is your response to all of those upcoming investigations? how do you think that will play out, and when will we learn anything new on that front? >> leo: good question. that is what you call the mounting pressure to resign. each one of those allegations and investigations you just articulated have a separate independent threat. i hope our great white house reporter peter doocy will ask an sake "will the federal government go for a federal civil rights investigation?" to go back to your question, those are independent tracks of investigation.
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the question is, collectively, will they put enough pressure on the governor to resign? that's how they would impact his current situation, the collection and pressure of these multitude of investigations. >> emily: leo terrell, thank you so much, as always, for your legal analysis. bringing it back to the full panel, kayleigh, what are your final thoughts as we await governor cuomo's >> kayleigh: i am awaiting that response, also waiting and wondering what we will hereafter. a white house press briefing for 1:30 p.m. anything short than a demand for a resignation would be a complete 180 from what we heard from president biden. also more reaction, we heard from senator gillibrand coming out demanding the resignation, but i want to hear from nancy pelosi who said previously he should look into his heart on whether to resign. i think that the answer is very clear. i want to hear from the female
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democrat lawmakers come out like senator gillibrand did. >> kayleigh: julie, do you think they will? >> i think they will, but leo made a point that the democrats have no choice, will they pursue and continue to put the pressure on the governor or will they fall silent after they have made their points known, and that will be the most telling example, it's all on the new york state assembly, those democrats have to do the right thing. >> emily: carly, quick final thoughts. >> i want to bring up in 2019 governor cuomo signed antisexual -- holding employers accountable for sexual harassment. apparently that did not happen in his own office because of this intimidation tactic that he was using come of this environment of intimidation, but he is starting to be held accountable today. >> emily: that's exactly right. i think everything we have heard
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this morning has been absolutely illuminating in terms of the toxic workplace culture that persisted and governor cuomo's administration and therefore the allowing and enabling for the sexual harassment to occur and persist. in the words of the attorney general, stay with us for continuing coverage as we await the governor himself. his response team, now here is "america reports." ♪ ♪ >> thank you, fox news alert. standing by for that response from new york governor andrew cuomo just hours after an explosive report from the state attorney general andrew cuomo is now speaking, let's go to the governor. >> as this unfolds, i did not want anyone to say that i did feared. i said it would hold my tongue, and i have. making only limited comments. it has been a hard and painful period for me and my family. especially as others feed ugly
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