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arm, a pat on the face, a touch on the stomach, a slap on the back. it's my way of saying "i see you. i appreciate you, and i thank you." i'm not comfortable just walking past and ignoring them. of course, usually they are male troopers. in this case, i don't remember doing it at all. i didn't do it consciously with the female trooper. i did not mean any sexual connotation. it was totally thoughtless in the literal sense of the word. but it was also insensitive. it was embarrassing to her, and was disrespectful. it was a mistake, plain and
simple. i have no other words to explain it. i want to personally apologize to her and her family. i have greatest respect for her and for the new york state police. now, obviously in a highly political matter like this, there are many agendas and there are many motivations at play. if anyone thought otherwise google would be naive and nenew yorkers are not naive. i want to thank the women who came forward since your complaint. it's not easy to step forward but you did an important service, and you taught me and you taught others and important lesson. personal boundaries must be expanded and must be protected. i accept full responsibility.
part of being new york tough is being new york smart. new york smart tells us that the situation and moment are not about the facts. it's not about the truth. it's not about thoughtful and malice. it's not about how we make the system better. this is about politics i'm our political system today is too often driven by the extremes. rationalness. twitter has become the public square for policy debate. there is an intelligent discussion to be had on gender-based actions, on
generational and cultural behavioral differences, on setting higher standards. and finding reasonable resolutions. but the political environment is too hot, and it is too reactionary for that now. and it is unfortunate. you know me. i'm a new yorker, born and bred. i am a fighter, and my instinct is to fight through this controversy. because i truly believe it is politically motivated. i believe it is unfair and it is untruthful. and i believe he demonizes behavior that is unsustainable for society. if i could communicate the facts to the frenzy, new yorkers would
understand, i believe that. but when i took my oath as governor, then it changed. i became a fighter but i became a fighter for you. and you lose your best interest that i must serve. the situation, by its current trajectory, will generate months of political and legal controversy. that is what is going to happen. that is how the political wind is blowing. it will consume government. it will cost taxpayers millions of dollars. it will brutalize people. the state assembly yesterday outlined weeks of process that will then lead to months of litigation. time and money that government
should spend managing covid, guarding against the delta variant, reopening of states, finding gun violence, and saving new york city. all that time will be wasted. this is one of the most challenging times for government in a generation. government really needs to function today. government needs to perform. it is a matter of life and death, government operations. wasting energy on distractions is the last thing that state government should be doing. and i cannot be the cause of that. new york tough means new york loving. and i love new york. and i love you. and everything i have ever done
has been motivated by the love, and i would never want to be unhelpful in any way. i think that given the circumstances, the best way i can help now is if i step aside and let government get back to governing. therefore that's what i'll do. because i work for you. and doing the right thing is doing the right thing for you. because as we say, it's not about me. it's about we. kathy, my lieutenant governor, a smart and competent, this transition must be seamless. we have a lot going on, i am very worried about the delta variant and so should you be.
but she can come up to speed quickly and my resignation will be effective in 14 days. to my team, and the hundreds of dedicated administration officials, i want to say this. thank you. thank you. and be proud. we made new york state the progressive capital of the nation. no other state government accomplish more to help people, and that is what it's all about. just think about what we did. we passed marriage equality, creating a new civil right. legalized love for the lgbt community and we generated a force for change that swept the nation. we passed the safe act. years ago, the smartest gun safety law in the united states of america in advance the
madness -- it banned the madness of assault weapons. the highest minimum wage in the nation, lifting millions of families standard of living, putting more food on the table and close on our backs -- probes on their backs. we have managed every emergency mother nature could throw at us. fires, floods, hurricanes, super storms and pandemics. we balanced the state budget on time. more than any other administration. because government should work and perform. free college tuition for struggling families. nobody in this state will be denied their college because of their income. we have built new airports, rail, transit, roads all across the state faster and better than ever before. more than any state in the
nation, the most effective green economy program in the nation. we did more for black and latino families and any other administration, we did more for working families, we did more to battle racism and anti-semitism. today so much of the politics is just noise. just static. that's why people to doubt. that's why people tuned out. what matters is improving people's lives, and that's what you did. you made this state a better state for the generations that follow. and that is undeniable, inarguable, and true. even in these ugly, crazy times. i think to the speaker and the leader for their leadership. let me say this on a personal
note, in many ways i see the world through the eyes of my daughters. they are 26 and 26, twins. and 23. i have lived this experience with and through them. i have sat on the couch with them, hearing the ugly accusations for weeks. i have seen the look in their eyes and the expression on their faces, and it hurt. i want my three jewels to know this. my greatest goal is for them to have better future than the generations of women before them. it is still in many ways a man's world. it always has been. we have sexism that is collateralized -- institutionalized. my daughters have more talents and natural gifts than i ever
had. i want to make sure that society allows them to fly as high as their wings will carry them. there should be no assumptions, no stereotypes, no limitations. i want them to know from the bottom of my heart that i never did and i never would intentionally disrespect a woman or treat any woman differently than i would want them treated. and that is the god's honest truth. your dad made mistakes, and he apologized, and he learned from it. and that's what life is all about. and i know the political process is flawed and i understand their cynicism and distrust and disappointment now. but don't give it up. because government is still the
best vehicle for making positive social change. lastly, i want to remind all new yorkers of an important lesson and one that i will carry with me for the rest of my life. and that's what you new yorkers did in battling covid. the enemy landed in new york state. covid launched the attack here. it came on planes from europe, and we had no idea. it was an ambush. and it was up to new yorkers to fight back. we were on our own, and it was war. nurses, doctors, essential workers became our frontline heroes. hospitals became the battlegrounds. streets were still and sirens
filled the city's silence. tearing the bodies of our fallen brothers and sisters you refused to give up and you fought back and you won. going from the highest infection rate in the nation to one of the lowest. no one thought we could do it, but you did it. you lead the nation and you show the way forward. and how you did it is what's most important. you did it together. not as black new yorkers or white new yorkers, not as lgbtq new yorkers orchestrate new yorkers or democrats or republicans or upstate or downstate are jewish, muslim, protestant, catholic new yorkers that is one community. one community, one family, the family of new york, you overcame the naysayers in the heaters that a fear the division and
unified, and you rose and you overcame. you saved lives and that was powerful in its effect. it was beautiful to see. and it was an honor to lead. please remember that lesson. hold it dear and hold it up high for this nation to see because it is new york state at her finest, creating her legacy, fulfilling her destiny, giving life and animation to the lady in the harbor saying excelsior, we can be better! we can reach higher! and proclaiming e pluribus unum, out of many, one. unity, community, love. that is our founding premise and our enduring promise.
that is the salvation of this nation that it so desperately needs to hear. thank you for the honor of serving you. it has been the honor of my life. god bless you. >> new york governor andrew cuomo in an epic self-defense. we first heard from his attorney, holding her own press conference for about 30 minutes and then we waited for a few minutes and then the governor. while we knew we would hear from him, we did not anticipate the crescendo of his remarks. first, he went after the allegations with these women. one by one by one, not all 11,
but certainly nearly half, he talked about the moments and the things that those women say that they had experienced because he touched them. he said he didn't mean it. because he said things, he made them uncomfortable. he asked for kisses and hugs. if you it. he didn't mean it. all of that leading up to his political enemies who he thinks he is now facing. although the law plays a huge part in this. made those findings known last week. for the governor today, he took on the political fight that he said he would be able to wage because he has special gifts in that area because he's from new york. he was ready to fight. but he says he's also ready to serve in the best thing for the people of new york, crescendo, is for him to step aside and then he says his resignation will take effect in 14 days. and then the soliloquy, the
swan song. made it through the pandemic of the worst of times, had to do it without help, that whole thing. he thanks new yorkers for giving him opportunity reserve. you're watching "outnumbered." kayleigh mcenany, dagen mcdowell, fox news headlines 24/7 reporter carley shimkus. in the center virtual seat, fox news contributor and professor of medicine at nyu, dr. marc siegel. well, kayleigh, when we talk politics we often will acknowledge that it so blood sport. and for a governor who we know has joked about the allegations against him and has made at least inferences that the stories were not true. albeit in accordance but he did not deny. he said he either didn't
remember or he didn't mean so many of those things that made those women uncomfortable. the politics, though, is what he capitulated to. not the law. the politics. >> kayleigh: that's exactly right. what you just witnessed was the stunning downfall of the democrats' darling. this is someone who was floated as a presidential candidate potentially, someone whose name was mentioned. being better or superior to joe biden even at times. you witnessed his stunning downfall, you nailed it. it was because of politics. what we just watched his governor cuomo resigning, and democrats just passed that monstrosity of an infrastructure package. that was in the bottom right corner of our screen because andrew cuomo chose to go to a microphone and make that decision now. stopping on the democrats' messaging. joni ernst proposing the chrome on them and in congress, funding for states that have a governor found to be guilty of sexual
assault. ralph northam being asked questions about this. this was becoming so untenable for the democratic party. he capitulated to the politics with two-thirds of the new york state assembly saying that they would vote for impeachment. though i would say as recently as yesterday, we had reporting, "the new york post" did, i should say, that he was going behind the scenes, his team talking to lawmakers saying if i agree not to do another term, will you not impeach me. they tried at the very last moment to stop it but they simply could not. what is -- a stunning turn of events. >> harris: the newspapers in this region, you could see the dealmaking didn't happen overnight. when that fell through, the attorney came up first about an hour ago. began laying out her case. making a compelling argument that she hadn't received the interview transcripts where the
evidence in the case. we don't know the whole story. we don't know how hard they were pushing. we don't know if this governor was ever really going to wage a fight. because perhaps he was making a deal or thought he could. we won't ever know the whole story and thus everybody starts talking. which you could say is what happened with these 11 alleged victims of governor cuomo. and there is someone else. joining us by phone, janice dean, her reaction to the breaking news. you talked about justice. sometimes justice will come in a way you hadn't anticipated, we were focused on the nursing home scandal, lives lost, and that because of this governor's leadership decision, your reaction today. >> i didn't think he was going to do it, harris. i thought he's going to blame everybody else. blame her, blame them, god,
mother nature, "the new york post," all the things he blames for his nursing home decision. so i was waiting for him to do the same and i was waiting for him to say i am going to stick it through because i believe i'm innocent. instead he said he was resigning. i'm in shock, i'm not going to live. i got a text from my sister-in-law and i texted my husband and i said he's gone. got to be honest, we had my in-laws' memorial yesterday at a firehouse in brooklyn. a lot of us were talking about maybe, yesterday when there was the memorial for my in-laws, maybe he would resign. some kind of divine intervention. it happened the day after. i will say that i believe that being on the side of the angels has helped us. he has nowhere to go. he had nowhere to go.
he was in a corner. people were jumping off the sinking ship like rats. today's a good day but i will say this, harris. i want justice. i don't want this to be the end of the chapter. i want investigations to continue. i want justice for those brave women that came forward and i want justice for those who have no voice, who are in a grave right now because of his mandate. don't forget the over 15,000 loved ones that deserve answers. we haven't talked about those people. it has gotten caught up in the me too stuff. it's an abuse of power. that's what this guy has been leaving with in the last two terms, the abuse of power. it's over today. do not forget that he has investigations, some could turn criminal. his corruption runs deep. >> harris: the way that you
put that, janice, it is so true in terms of how you go after this next. we don't know what's next. what we do know is that on this day, the unexpected happened. and you mentioned your loved ones and memorializing them yesterday. our prayers and love and thoughts are always with you, janice dean. we are alongside you for the fight in all these cases, because there will be thousands of them. if you split them up. over 15,000 of them. he could be a very busy guy for a very long time if the law continues its pursuit. janice dean, i know everybody on the panel wants to talk with you. >> kayleigh: janice, you mention this is not the end but perhaps just the beginning. the judiciary committee. this was just one component of where they were looking at. you mentioned nursing home deaths. they likewise are researching or looking into, rather, the
usurping of state resources for family members and personal favors and also a cover-up pertaining to bolts on the mario cuomo bridge. where you think comes next? the nursing home scandal that has been so dear and near to your heart. >> i have been talking with assemblies. they've been in this fight for a long time with me. it has nothing to do with politics. the governor likes to say this is all about politics really person that was making it political with him. a democrat was affected personally by his uncle. losing his life in a nursing home because of covid. we have the same goal. not let the issue go away. he has assured me, as late -- he will continue his fight in the assembly to make sure our
family members get answers and accountability. i'm not sure what that looks like. but i believe him. i believe him because he has a loved one he lost as well. we've become good friends. i'm hopeful. i would like president biden to continue his doj investigation. but we do know they stopped that one. i would like accountability for the other states that had mandates to be covid positive patience in nursing homes. as a laundry list of scandals surrounding this governor. the friends and family covid test is a big deal because nursing homes could not get covid tests to test incoming patience but yet the governor gave those tests away, those tests to his friends and his family and chris cuomo. that makes me sick. state resources to drive to their personal homes in the hamptons to get a test and then drive back test albany and use
those state resources when nursing homes literally could be saving lives with those tests. that should be criminal. >> harris: dr. siegel come i want to bring you in here because from the very beginning of the pandemic, we covered the decisions being made just like we are doing now with masking and dosages of the vaccine for little ones. the entire journey. the part of the journey that janice dean is talking about was the preventable part. it was not a disease that had gone awry and crept its way into places. he put people into places, the most vulnerable, are elderly and loved ones, blocked off and left a battle that disease as he put sick patients next to them. >> marc: he was busy marshaling only the scarce resources for his own family at a time when we were struggling in the hospital to get enough
testing, to get enough equipment. how dare he start to equate himself once again with the partnership with the health care workers who put their health on the front lines while he was hiding in his mansion with his supplies. another point, i don't know if the viewers really understand how egregious it is. a nursing home, no matter what you do to it, you can gold plate it. you can never make a nursing home a proper place for covid-19 patients. you need negative pressure. you need specific rooms. it's got to be infectious disease. it is literally murdering people. one more thing i want to talk about is when he starts glad-handing. i'm sure every woman on this panel is really angry to hear how he talked about that police officer. let me tell you. women know when they been groped and they know when they been attacked and i have treated them in the emergency room after they have victims of sexual assault.
if this happened, women will not be the same again after this. this is an enormous, and norma's assault, that's the right word. >> harris: we have talked about the psychological part. you see people in your practice. you'll say they are coming in for one thing but i get their whole psychological profile as well. that's where you're getting some of this information from. >> marc: i think that's one of the reasons, this is alleged and you've had some tough lawyers talking about this on the show, including emily. it feels like the victims, there is some ring of truth here. when you have the specific details down and you say it was your stomach or you say it was your shoulder or you say i was touched from behind or you say he kept hugging me or groped my
breast, anybody can make up the story but to me as a physician that's taken history after history, it has the ring of truth to it. one more thing. this also speaks to janice's point, there's a profile here, psychological profile of someone who may feel he's better than other people, beyond other people. other people are subhuman. people don't have to be factored in, whether it's a nursing home victims or whether it's women in his employee. >> harris: we have got leo terrel. you talked about one of those great attorneys. he's a fox news contributor, he joined the last hour as the attorney for andrew cuomo, soon-to-be ex-governor of new york in about 14 days. as that story was breaking with her laying out the defense. leo, i have a question about what could happen next and why do you think the doj dropped its case against this governor that's facing so many allegations? >> thank you for having me again, harris.
your analysis really michelle has been fantastic. the whole show has been. let me tell you. i've been saying this over and over again it's political. there's a political aspect, democratic leadership in new york and the white house. the question remains, what deals were cut for cuomo to resign right now. he gave a nixonian type of farewell speech and i guarantee as you've been talking about the last 24 hours, he's been trying to cut a deal with the state assembly. >> harris: that's what's been reported. >> right. will they pursue these nursing charges? what about the criminal case? all these things we don't know yet unless people talk. there's out standing issues that are still occurring. we don't know unless people speak. i want to make one other point that i've done civil rights law and sexual harassment cases. i find it appalling for cuomo to try to justify his deviant behavior based on his cultural
heritage, based on that's the way we do things. that's an affirmative defense to allow anyone to say oh, because i was raised this way, i don't have to follow the sexual harassment laws. that he incorporated, that he enacted. he is saying excuse me. i want to make sure everybody understands this. don't use some type of private or personal trait or characteristic you have to ignore sexual harassment laws. i found that offensive. >> harris: what's so interesting is in addition to playing the cultural card, which i mean, is so offensive anyway. whoever heard of saying, because i miss her because i'm that. i can be excused from doing these things because we are all huggers. my head exploded when he played the race card. all italians and all diversity -- he wanted to give himself
credit for those in law enforcement for having diverse hiring. reviewed because one of the accuser says he got to be mr. hanse allegedly. he said i respect them all and i have no doubt that what she is saying is true. >> the comments that he was making, he excused all his misconduct. his apology, his sorry does not provide an affirmative defense. this guy was a sexual predator. janice dean for governor. >> kayleigh: i second that. was kind of stunning to hear those admissions, yes, his attorney telling us he didn't touch troopers on the side. he did kiss and hug staffers. with the lines have been redrawn, he said. he had made mistakes. i am paraphrasing but it was stunning to hear this kind of
admissions. interesting to hear you talk about dealmaking particularly because, as i noted earlier, we noise recently as yesterday there was reporting that the governments reaching out behind the scenes trying to get a deals we could stay in office. the state party chair said his offer of not running again, that he would not be impeached, he said this. "it was something that was floated to me by the folks in the cuomo camp as a possible option before the ag's report came out. i never saw it as a viable option." what kind of deal could have been made here? >> i'll tell you, kayleigh. you and i think alike. i guarantee this man's ego wanted to stay in office. he's been disgraced by resigning. i'm telling you that the deal i think and i'm guessing, because it took him -- it took a lot for him to quit today. he quit. he resigned. call it whatever you want. i think the deal was they are going to shut down and you're going to expect them to shut
down any type of subsequent hearing in the state assembly. why? they figure this is enough. this is enough and let him go away and we'll go away. that's what i'm expecting, kayleigh, to happen. hopefully i'm wrong because justice has to be served. the domino effect is that criminal case, kayleigh, that case cannot be kneeled away. it's not a political deal. it's a form of justice and it has to be adjudicated one way or another there is a boatload of evidence in that governor -- former governor keep admitting that he is sorry, those are admissions that he did something wrong. mr. d.a. and mr. sherif, you've got a lot of statements by the governor to do that you can use in your criminal case. >> harris: we got a statement here from the accusers attorney, alyssa mcgrath. "my clients feel vindicated and
relieved cuomo will no longer be in a position of power over anyone. his efforts through his paid attorney over the last few days to gaslight and attack the brave women who came forward apparently serve no purpose. ms. mcgrath and ms. limiatis remain grateful that their voices and experiences were heard and substantiated by the ag's investigators and feel solidarity with all women who continue to be abused by men in power, at least today one of them has faced some consulates is." we were talking about potentially what could come next and all of this and there was a part where he was one by one, several of these women refuting what was going on. he didn't say those things didn't happen. it was near the top of his comments but he did try to substantiate why they happen, either he had no recollections, they weren't intended and all of
that. all that, i'm curious what it could look like if anyone went down this road. >> i think he is trying to signal along with his attorney to tell these victims you don't have a case or it will be a tough case or drop the case. now the victims have options either pursue this case civilly or do they find peace with his resignation. i will tell you from a legal standpoint, there's a lot of outstanding civil cases that are pending based on their decisions to pursue this legally or do they want to accept his resignation? when you file a lawsuit, your listing and into your minimum litigation battle. especially attorney going step-by-step to the victim saying this is why you don't have a case. that's a strategy being sent to the victims' attorney. >> harris: it seems to have a strategy about it because it was in concert to what rita, his
attorney previously said the hour before. we have bryan llenas life in albany. he's been on the story since hit broke. bring us up to speed and reaction that you're seeing. >> i have gotten confirmation from a few members on the judiciary committee that's running the impeachment investigation here in albany that there is an appetite to move forward with impeachment at least from one republicanism women as well as two other democrats and that includes the chairman of the judiciary committee, charles levine, who just yesterday in a press conference at that i wouldn't discount back for a moment when asked whether or not they would move forward with impeachment regardless of whether or not the governor resigns. so we'll see. the appetite can be for a couple things. i've heard that there's -- people really want to make sure that they hold the governor accountable. one democrat, and assemblyman
said, this is the most powerful governorship in the entire country. we need to move forward with his impeachment so that we can start to rein in the power of the governorship. others have pointed to the nursing home situation with covid-19 and the deaths as well as his pandemic memoir as well as the preferential testing for covid-19. so ultimately there seems to be an appetite, at least from the judiciary committee, it all comes down to whether or not people like carl has tea, head of the state assembly, willing to also move forward with his caucus in the assembly to do that. another point that we were talking about is the governor said in this stuck out to me, he said in my mind i've never cross a line with anyone but i didn't realize to the extent to which the line has been redrawn. he helped to redraw that line. he literally passed a law in 2019 that got rid of the strict and pervasive necessity needed
for sexual harassment accusers to come forward in the state of new york. he lowered that bar and he was celebrated for doing it. it's really striking that he's outside counsel and him both made that a core part of their argument today. that it was his intent. he didn't intend to do that but the bottom line is according to the new york law that he signed and according to the attorney general, it doesn't matter the intent of the governor. it only matters whether or not that person felt as though they were being harassed. that has been continuously a big part of his defense. he even said a few months ago, he said in a press conference it doesn't matter, making somebody feel uncomfortable does not mean it's sexual harassment. so obviously according to the law it does. all eyes here in albany. i will say one last thing, i did ask karel heastie as to whether or not they were negotiating.
he said no. i've not had a conversation with him since february, no negotiations were going on. >> harris: when he talked about the line being redrawn, you and i kind of side from opposite ends and they meet in the middle. one is what you said, he helped me draw that line with the policy he put in place. maybe he didn't read the policy. we don't know. the other way to take it is he didn't know what right from wrong was until somebody drew the line for him. that's a mess and it's also criminally wrong. bryan llenas, such a great job where you are, catching us up on all of this and throughout the week that we have known about the attorney general's case against this governor and the sex scandal that has been around him like an albatross for many months. bryan llenas, thank you very much. dagen mcdowell on "outnumbered" today with carly simkins, dr. siegel, kayleigh and me.
dagen, i wonder what you have to say about this portion of it. bryan llenas was talking about carl heastie and would they go after him and impeach him, his name and reputation for the rest of time. recently one of the tweets from the first open accuser of governor cuomo, lindsay boylan, attacked carl heastie and she wanted to know when would enough the enough with the victim blaming. >> dagen: part of the justice of what these sexual abuse, sexual harassment victims, it's not just the fact that he and his attorney are trying to smear their reputations. it's strange incredulity for them to suggest these 11 women came together included with one another to accuse this man of
just being overly friendly. we know that's not happened. and one of the bigger problems laid out in the attorney general letitia james' report is the retaliation that they took, cuomo and his cronies, his small inner circle of ghouls to go after these women who had accused him and they laid out in great detail including involving the chairwoman of the times of legal defense. remember that? roberta has since resigned from that post because she was involved in crafting or reading a letter, crafting the response, the retaliation against these victims. i have been talking about this governor, excuse me, former governor, in 14 days, since right after the nursing home order was handed down in march of 2020. i have been walking around with that very order on my phone
since last year because governor cuomo and howard zucker who had been commissioner of health, they scrubbed it off the internet so people couldn't find it. i have been talking about it and tweeting about it and getting angrier and angrier about this order that sent 15,000 elderly people to their deaths. the cover-up and the lying and governor cuomo favoring his relatives but sticking his ghouls on the grieving family members of the dead elderly including janice dean and her sister-in-law. and letitia james earlier this year in january released a report which, by the way, is enough to impeach this man that found that he did cover-up the covid related nursing home deaths. benefited him to the tune of $5 million in that book deal.
he won in the emmy and in terms of what he didn't do to help new yorkers. the comfort ship from the u.s. navy. nobody was sent there. how did that help anybody? he fearmongers the vaccine. he went after trump, president trump, he said he knew his own team of people here in new york to go over the scientific adequacy of the vaccine. in terms of what this man has done, something came up to me privately, not that long ago, it looked at me and said you were right about this governor all along. you were telling us last year that he was no good, that he was working in his best interest, that he was a bully. i will end on this, he's clearly had a complex living up to the legacy of his father, mario cuomo. mario cuomo was elected to three terms as governor of new york,
as was his son, andrew cuomo. mario cuomo served those three terms, andy cuomo, 14 days from now, did not. a failure in every way. >> kayleigh: no doubt about it. i've got to ask about the timing of the decision. i don't think it was coincidental. this is my surmising. i don't think it was continental he chose to do this just as the senate was voting on infrastructure, big win for the biden administration. it seems a revenge shot at schumer while schumer is on the floor of the senate, getting infrastructure through. almost a shot at his party who threw him under the bus. you make anything in the timing of the decision? >> dagen: he is petty, very petty. it wouldn't put it past him. however, i think that with the call so far and wide for members
of his own party all the way up to president biden for him to resign, that he would start picking up. it was a cheap shot at schumer. but he might be expecting more and more calls for his resignation particularly with victory behind the democrats down in washington. one other thing, the state is in disarray because his micromanager. this states rent assistance for people heard during -- hurt during covid's a mess. the eviction moratorium, that's a spotlight in the federal level, this is going to be of greater focus i think in the press. i think he's probably afraid of more that's going to come out. two additional tutors have stepped up that we don't know, we don't know anything about them. more and more accusers in terms of the sexual harassment are
starting to come out of the woodwork. this is only going to get worse for him. >> harris: it'll be interesting. there is a statute of limitation that canon will apply to some cases but as we have seen in the past, the drumbeat can inform sometimes legally what things really look like. maybe not all admissible in court but a drumbeat, a pattern can help them to ask certain questions and look for certain evidence. it all goes together. leo terrell knows that better than anybody and kayleigh, i know you're going to recommend. i want to get this and quickly, statement from new york city mayor de blasio on governor cuomo's resignation. remember, as a quick backdrop, they didn't like each other. mayor bill de blasio today released the following statement. "make no mistake. this is the result of survivors bravely telling their stories. it was past time for andrew cuomo to resign. it's for the good of all new york." that is a short statement.
kayleigh. >> kayleigh: let's bring in leo terrell. leo, what is very interesting is to leave her joe biden. we've heard pelosi, we've heard others come out and call for this resignation. it was a toothless move because ultimately the decision was in the hands of cuomo. here is something president biden could do. he could say department of justice, i'm not telling you how to come out of the civil rights investigation. that would be improper. but i can tell you to look at it. i can tell you, take a look at these actions. are there any federal violations, civil rights violations? that would be something. if president biden is true to his word that he he is as aggrieved by these allegations as the rest of us. can he call on his doj to look at the civil rights component? >> absolutely. you and i are thinking on the same channel. the word that harris used is called pattern and practice. there's a pattern and practice of misconduct involving
sexual harassment. under title vii, the department of justice can investigate it and take a second look. if you're listening, attorney general garland, why would he resign? because there is evidence, overwhelming evidence of his misconduct. could the ag investigate? yes. should the ag investigate? yes. there's a wealth of evidence by the attorney general that the ag and the u.s. attorneys can look at. if they really want to do justice, if they really want to show equality across the board regardless of party affiliation, department of justice, investigate andrew cuomo for sexual harassment under title vii under a pattern and practice theory. >> harris: i have a quick question. i know this is both legal and political. part of the response to how long and what a slow roll affect the
democrats in new york were doing in terms of impeachment. first of all, the assembly wasn't going to look at it to september. the senate, the state senate wasn't going to look at it until october. it couldn't have been slower if you are rolling backwards. but the entire time taxpayers on the hook for whatever he was doing and now it's down to 14 days. what can he do in 14 days? we are not going to pay for anything, early, as taxpayers? well, i live in jersey. but those who live in new york. in terms of his defense? >> i'll tell you how exactly, all these allegations, while he was in office, they are, the taxpayers are on the hook. the acts occurred during his official duties in office. he can resign. he could have been impeached. they are going to still have to cover it legally because it occurred during his official
duties. the state of new york is on hook regardless. >> harris: he wasn't really doing what he said he was going to do and correct me if i'm wrong because i'm only going by the man's words. he was doing this for the good of new york but it's also for the good of andrew cuomo because new york is going to pay anyway, right? it is still a distraction anyway? it may not be front-page news but it is still their money. for him and is particularly bad if it doesn't end now. >> he wanted to keep the $5 million and not use it for attorneys fees. the state of new york, the book deal. $5 million. and when monies for attorneys fees. i think bryan llenas gave that report, the standard of proof has been lowered to establish harassment under new york law because they lower the standard of proof. you don't need intent, just the conduct has to be deemed unreasonable. that's where the women's
testimony is critical to finding a conviction or civil damages against the soon-to-be former governor. >> harris: carley shimkus with us. >> carley: leo brings up a good point and governor cuomo was the one to lower the standard. the way this whole thing played out is enough to give you whiplash. it sounded like he was laying out a case for him to fight impeachment. laying out a case to fight impeachment. and then it turns out he wasn't laying out a case for his innocence. he was laying out a case for his political legacy. i am innocent but i'm going to step aside for the greater good of new york. this is one of the greatest political downfalls in the history of modern american politics to think about where governor cuomo was a year and a half ago. he was holding these hours long
press conferences being held even in the 49 other states that weren't new york. people were calling themselves cuomo-sexuals, the book deal and the emmy award. the nursing home scandal deemed him but the central harassment. there's a lot of evidence that showed governor cuomo and his and administration tried to it up. there are ongoing investigations on that front. governor cuomo is right about one thing and that there is politics -- it does come into play. some democrats who called for his resignation did so because they think he's to moderate and they want a democrat socialist in his place. there's a gubernatorial election that's going to take place next year. i was thinking, as everybody else was giving their great analysis, what that could look
like. i think eric adams becoming the presumed mayor of new york is really telling it with the governor's race is going to look like. new york is the most liberal area of new york. they picked a moderate candidate as opposed to a democratic socialist. i think that could be the future for new york. >> harris: what they picked was an ex-cop. this place is not safe in many areas of the city. you don't have to be carrying money on your shoulder to get hurt. it's not for the money. this place has stabbings. things that don't have anything to do with the gun-control democrats like to talk about. we have all sorts of violent crimes. eric adams represents something not just opposite of socialist. it represents his nomination through the primary process,
defund the police. it's amazing. not just antisocialism but anti-defund the police which are huge, huge topics of conversation among particularly far left leaning democrats which many of whom vote in the city. kayleigh, i want to talk about something that we haven't gotten into. cnn is in a pickle. they haven't been covering this, not the way they should be because his little brother is on tv every night, chris cuomo. he hasn't touched this. we understand from reports today he is still talking to his brother and he is still on the air. we know how executives at cnn have said how they felt about it in terms of how they have dealt with him. apparently they don't mind. >> kayleigh: apparently they don't mind. no journalistic standards at cnn. "the washington post" calling them out, erik wemple saying you magically found a standard that didn't exist during covid. when things were going quite well from governor cuomo, people
thought he was the democrat wonder boy. you let him come on crisp almost program a dozen times. then you discovered a nonexistent standard when things got bad and said no, no you can't cover your brother. but you're exactly right to point out. what chris cuomo did. he is on formal calls with the governor's office. he is drafting statements about how to respond to these allegations the day before he tells his viewers he obviously cannot be fair and unbiased covering his brother and then we find out yesterday from "the washington post," governor cuomo has lost most of his advisors save two. one of them is you've got it, chris cuomo. it should be investigated. erik wemple made a great point. when "the new york times" had an conflict of interest, they investigated it. it should be investigated at cnn which they want to call themselves a journalistic
enterprise which of course they are not. >> harris: i'm curious what this looks like. potentially as we've been talking about with everybody today, you can see further investigations. according to leo, maybe the doj would open up based on a lot of evidence and allegations against his governor. not just the sex scandal and not just the nursing home scandal but as a whole host of things. if the department of justice were to take another look, wouldn't chris cuomo have to kind of cover that? i'm telling you they are in a world of hurt with that host. look at the readings, they are before the grace of god go we though truth is our mantra. it's going to be problematic over there because if there is more to the story, 14 days of whatever the coverage is going to look like between now and then. i doubt that this guy stops
talking. what's your take? >> kayleigh: it is usually problematic. some of the most awkward moments i watched are the handoffs between chris cuomo and don lemon. don lemon say you're my friend, my buddy moments before he said "stunning news on governor andrew cuomo" and turns into what resembles a newscaster that we know don lemon is not that. if if cnn wants to be fair, there are new allegations, they should say let's investigate it. that's "the new york times" did when there is an allegation that one of their sports writers writing a book with michael phelps was giving glowing coverage of michael phelps, cnn, answer "the washington post," answer erik wemple. >> harris: reputation, as you know because you've spoken with
people, you often give advice on so many things. reputation, reputation. what is this man's reputation? >> i have a nixon psychiatrist at as a patient and we talked about nixon trying to rebuild his ego. he was going through tremendous depression. i don't think it matters whether he's impeached or not. i think he's been badly tarnished and won't recover. i think he will likely need deep, deep therapy and analysis. i don't know him personally. one funny thing, i ran into chris cuomo this weekend out east. he was putting his boat on the dock and he was smiling, all smiles. cnn, the handoff, the discomfort, you couldn't see it on his face. it was like crisp promo was above it all, enjoying the boat
ride. it was like chris cuomo was above it all. >> harris: we only judge what we are put in charge of and god judges the rest. on this day there were some political judges and inside that man's head he saw them looming so he quit his job to leave new york under scandal. here is "america reports." thank you so much and continuin the coverage of the governor of coumo saying he isn't resigning effective than 14 days ago this after bipartisan calls calling for him to step down. hello and welcome to america reports on a tuesday afternoon.