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♪♪ >> martha: more than 100 veterans that served in vietnam, korea and world war ii sang our national anthem and we salute them all. thanks for joining us on "the story." we'll see you back here tomorrow. >> neil: thank you, martha. we're focusing on who is getting through those checkpoints in kabul right now as we get reports of protesters outside the airport and taliban forces firing on them. so much we don't know. this much we're getting to know. a story in the "wall street journal" that vladimir putin had rejected a role for u.s. forces near afghanistan after that recent summit with president biden. the argument at the time and the pitch for the president at the time was to see if he could establish a base of operations
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outside land locked afghanistan. it never happened. now we're beginning to understand why it was such an important issue. could that have been a sign of the angst the administration had ahead of this pull-out from afghanistan and the collapse that has followed? welcome. i'm neil cavuto, this is "your world." we're still keeping on top of the exodus that is now picking up some steam in kabul. that is the good news. the bad news is that we're not quite sure who is picking and choosing when gets through that perimeter, if anyone, for the time being. let's go to jennifer griffin with the very latest on what is happening. jennifer? >> neil, the u.s. provided weapons to the fighters in the 80s that is now the taliban. now billions of dollars of hardware in the hands of the
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taliban. now the clock to evacuate winds down. all eyes on an august 31 withdrawal deadline. >> isis and al-quaida is a planning factor. you wouldn't expect it to be otherwise. i'm not going to talk about specific force protection measures against terrorist threats. i think clearly we're mindful that that threat could persist. >> defense secretary lloyd austin made the admission about limits of rescuing americans stuck behind taliban lines in downtown kabul. >> we don't have the capability to go collect up large numbers of people. >> at the pentagon today, we pressed the point further. >> british paratroopers are leaving the airport, going into kabul to rescue an evacuate some of their citizens who are trapped, can't get to the airport because of the taliban. why isn't the u.s. doing that?
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>> at this time as an army mission continues to secure hkai to allow the american citizens and others to come in and be processed at the air field. >> the pentagon says the u.s. military evacuated 2,000 people in the past 24 hours. far less than the capacity it has to fly out between 5,000 and 8,000 people each day. each c-17 took off with about 180 people per flight. far fewer than the load master and pilot who packed 640 on one c-17. a key bottle neck we're told is the state department only has had on the ground a handful of counselor officers that is changing. the military always knew after they pulled out that they would get the 911 call from the state department to help evacuate americans is and special immigrant visa holders that the pentagon warned for weeks needed faster processing by the state
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department. they just weren't sure that the wall would come this soon. neil? >> neil: thanks very much, jennifer. rich edson at the state department. the big question is who is being processed through here and who is calling the shots on who gets through that perimeter? it's too early to tell. >> the taliban is calling the shots on who gets to the airport. for the americans that are there or not, the administration says many of the people being processed right now are americans, but they don't give specific numbers. the administration says they have evacuated 7,000 people since saturday. we know from officials that about 1,800 of those were american citizens or residents. officials have also said they processed about an additional 6,000 who were expected to leave soon scheduled on about 20 flights that are going to go out tonight. we have yet to hear directly from the secretary state, anthony blinken on this. the state department says that will change. >> he's been meeting regularly
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with the president. he's been regularly meeting with the broader national security team. he's been deeply engaged on this and i expect you'll have an opportunity to hear from him soon. >> the department is getting no timeline on when that will be. the state department says they cannot ensure safe passage to the airport in kabul. there's taliban checkpoints, gun fire, massive crowds forcing the government to temporarily shut one of the airport gates today. to address this john bass will try to negotiate with the taliban to allow american safe passage out of the country. >> my office has been in touch with dozens of people on the ground, outside the airport with the taliban are beating people indiscriminately, taking their visa papers and passports. this is all happening a few yards from the gates. >> the state department says they will have doubled the staff working on processing all of these people evacuating.
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the department refuses to give a number. we know as of this morning it was about 20 officers that were dealing with these thousands of people leaving the country. neil? >> neil: all right. thanks very much for that, rich edson. we should separately note here that nancy pelosi wants to go ahead and kickoff a hearing in to all of this and who made what decision and how and when and why. the person that will play a instrumental role in that joins us right now. republican michael mccall from the state of texas. serves on the foreign affairs committee kicking off that hearing. i understand, congressman, as soon as next week. >> we'll have a classified briefing going into next week in a public hearing probably when we return in september. we obviously have a lot of questions to ask from this administration. it's been in my view, neil, dereliction of duty by the commander-in-chief. he has a stain on this
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presidency, of this ill conceived evacuation which is utter chaos at the airport. my numbers are there there's 10,000 to 15,000 americans and 20% of those have escaped out of the kabul airport. the taliban has circled the perimeter and beating people with chains as they try to get in to the perimeter to get on one of these flights. you heard kirby, the spokesman for the pentagon. he had no idea who is on the flights. i'm getting reports that some of the flights are half full. they're half empty. how does this happen? >> neil: who decides then, congressman? do you know who is getting through that perimeter that this taliban has set up around the airport? who gets through? who decides that? seems to me it's the taliban deciding that and we're leery going there to force the issue for now. >> they're flexing their muscle.
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it's embarrassing that the united states of america has an unconditional surrender to a terrorist organization and begging them to back off of our evacuation. that is a situation on the ground that we're in right now. i've had thousands of vet trans contact the foreign affairs committee trying to get interpreters out, trying to get loved ones out and american citizens out. we can't process all of this. they got caught flat footed. we warned them to prepare, if you're going to do this, do it right, have the siv applicants, the american citizens, the planes ready to go. you had the story about putin now flexing his muscle against biden. we're projecting weakness when putin tells the commandner chief of the united states, the president, that he cannot put a base of operations for intelligence, surveillance and recognizance. >> neil: that was before all of
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this hit the fan to your point, congressman. what putin said is that that was not an option and for the u.s. to establish any base of afghanistan wasn't an option. how did he finally have veto power on the issue? we couldn't we force the issue with other countries in the area or did we try? >> because we're projecting weakness, not strength. the international community sees this. they view us as a weak country's impacting our status around the world. failed leadership. why would we allow putin to dictate to our commander-in-chief what he can and cannot do? what we're talking about here is intelligence. right? we have no intelligence anymore. bagram shut down. our isr capability, dark. the embassy dark. we used that to not only see afghanistan threats from within like isis and al-quaida but also
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china, russia and iran. we cannot see the threats coming out of the region now. when i talked to the commanders and veterans, this is putting us in a very compromising situation. >> neil: do you think when the president said there was no intelligence and top military brass were saying including the joint chief of staff that there is no way to foreseen or anyone to have a discussion of the country falling within days let alone weeks or months? >> neil, i hate to be so strong, but it's a lie. if i'm getting these briefings, i sure as heck hope the president of the united states is. the fact is the i.c. assessment all summer long has been very grim that the taliban was going to overrun the country, the afghan government would fall without our air cover. now the president blames the
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intelligence community. this is a lie. the i.c. was correct. it was very grim. they had a six month and 90-day assessment. he ignored his top generals in my judgment. milley, i've known him a long time. i'm disappointed that he would say that, that they had no warning in advance about this. i certainly did. just in my position in congress. >> neil: you knew the country could fall in days. you got that kind of intelligence or access to that? >> it did happen even faster than the i.c. but they said during the fighting season and then 90 days. the point is, it was a very grim assessment. the state department kept going back to this rosy picture of we're talking to the taliban. everything will be fine. you can't negotiate with the
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taliban. i talked to mike pompeo, former secretary of state this morning. the idea that somehow this is trump's fault and that president trump -- that his february agreement had something to do with this. what pompeo told me is they were in constant contact. when they violated the agreement like not cutting ties with al-quaida or hitting provincial capitals, there was an immediate swift response with air support. they were bombed. the problem is we have a weak president now who is unleashed the taliban on this country. what i fear for the most are the women left behind and the state that they're going to be put in when they're enslaved and treated like property. >> neil: yeah. does make you think of donald trump and for the administration to argue that they inherited this policy and to stick with that when in fact overturned by executive order everything else
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trump did. it's not right. thanks for joining us on this. it's not just republicans who are bashing the president here. we've been talking about foreign leaders that are concerned about where this is going. a top democrat who also was saying this was a mistake, not in june of this year, try june of last year.
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>> neil: you know, outside of the president's interview with george stephanopoulos on abc, it's largely by operation ignore from the commander-in-chief on this implosion going on in afghanistan. jacqui heinrich on the strategy behind that. hi, jacqui. >> hi, neil. the president was asked in july if a taliban takeover was inevitable. he said no. calling it highly unlikely. now he's admitting the intelligence community did not fully agree. >> i think there was no consensus. go back and look at the intelligence reports. it was more likely to be sometime by the end of the year. >> top military brass defended the president amid reports that he ignores warnings against a
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hasty withdrawal. defense officials say no such intelligence predicted this swift of a collapse. the president doubled down defiant. >> your top military advisers advised you about keeping the troops. >> no, they didn't. it was split. that wasn't true. >> they didn't tell you they wanted troops to stay? >> no. not in terms of whether we were going to get out in a time frame, all troops. they didn't argue against that. >> despite admitting some in the intelligence community believes contrary to his claim, a taliban takeover would happen, the president also maintained that nobody knew it would play out like this. at the same time, he tried to argue that they expected this chaos. >> the idea that somehow there's a way to have gotten out without chaos ensuing, i don't know lou that happens. i don't know how that happened. >> so for you that was priced in
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the decision? >> yes. >> 7,000 people have been evacuated through an on going agreement with thele taliban who the president said he doesn't trust. there's no plans to go outside the airport to help the stranded americans and our allies, which by the way the british are doing, although in a narrower capacity. a credible source tells me the state department is looking into nonmilitary ways to stage and move americans and others stranded around kabul. i asked the state department about this. the information that this is an alternative to sending military forces in to kabul for the rescue. they did not dispute that information, neil. >> neil: jacqui thanks very much. and my next guest said be
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careful what you wish for last year. you can get more than you plan for. i'm talking about joe lieberman that co wrote an intriguing opinion piece with jack cane warning about an abrupt the departure from afghanistan saying the u.s. military is fighting deadly enemies that plan to kill americans at home. the troops withdrawn prematurely, americans, not just afghans will suffer the consequences. the senator and former presidential candidate joins me right now. joseph lieberman. a different president, a different plan. this is the present president with a different plan from that one. but in both cases, you were concerned about how we leave. does that still bug you today with what you're seeing playing out? >> oh, absolutely, neil. look, we're living through the
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nightmare that general jack keane and i worried about. we always -- we had it in a balance. that's why i think this thought that president trump had and the policy that president biden is now implemented to moves out of afghanistan all together was just not worth it. we had it in a balance. 2,500 troops, mostly involved, not in counter insurgency, not in nation building but focusing on keeping the taliban, who were terrorists out of power and keeping al-quaida and isis out of afghanistan and the region to the extent that we could. as general keane and i said in that op-ed last year, if we pulled out, we would surrender to an enemy, the taliban that we have largely defeated. that's what has happened.
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i'm not surprised that president biden asked -- discussed with president putin, establishing another base outside of afghanistan to do a lot of the things our troops were doing in afghanistan because it's absolutely necessary for regional security and the protection of americans from terrorists. what i am surprised at is that president biden would somehow give president putin a veto over that decision. if we had a friendly country in that region that wanted to take a base of operations for us and low cat it within the country, we should have done it. which is what putin would have done in the roles were reversed. >> or seen how far president biden would go with that and do it on his own anyway. i want to go back to the message that you were sending president trump at the time. he has since said that his strategy was very different than joe biden's and that even though he was calling for a may
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departure versus one in august as things stand now for president biden, that the taliban would have never been doing some of the things that they're doing and they would have never tried because he would have sent a very different signal than this president has to them. what did you think of that? that's kind of -- that's what he's been arguing lately. >> yeah, i don't think that in my opinion there's a strong basis for that conclusion by president trump. if you begin to -- it's possible that he would have better prepared for an evacuation. let's hope he would have. this is so -- >> neil: are you saying the taliban would have been aggressive, no matter if it was donald trump or joe biden? the taliban took advantage of it regardless? >> yeah, the main point is that as i said before, we had it at a balance. we hadn't lost an american soldier in afghanistan in more than a year. they weren't in the fight. they were giving moral support to the afghan army and
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performing counter terrorism. once you pull out of that, you're inviting the whirled wind, which president trump would have done if he implemented his policy and president biden has invite the whirled wind to occur now and to endanger -- >> neil: did you expect whendown and general keane wrote that that would fall so fast? it was clear from the thinking of the trump people at that time and certainly the biden people right up until this time that they envisioned the government would be under great stress but would not fall in days. what do you think? >> general keane and i -- he has such experience. i respect him so. he's a dear friend.he should answer for himself. i would say certainly i felt that a collapse -- i didn't know whether it would be days or weeks of the afghan army and the government, if we pulled out would happen.
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if you relied on something else, you were relying on something that was a wish, not based on a fact. because it was clear that we were providing moral support by being there to the government of afghanistan and the military. all of my years in the senate, going to afghanistan, talking to the american military, they felt that the afghan soldiers were courageous fighters. they liked fighting alongside them. now, you know, when we left, we pulled back air power, which they really relied on and holding the taliban back, they thought it was over. so naturally they gave in. i think the government in kabul felt that as president ghani would have been hung and he wasn't going to hang around for that to happen. over a period of time, over the last months, it was very clear,
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going back to the trump administration with the bad deal being negotiated with the taliban in qatar, but certainly the last several months, the biden administration was sending signals to the afghan government and military, we're getting out of here. that made them very nervous and i think hastened the collapse that has occurred. >> neil: got it. joe lieberman, as you pointed out in the end of your piece, talking about those that made their sacrifices in afghanistan and what could happen if we did this too quickly. they will not be grateful to have their sacrifices squandered. >> i agree. it's heart breaking, a great generation of american soldiers committed to the fight, believing -- and they were right. they were protecting the security of the american people from terrorism such as occurred on 9-11 by the fight that they
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were waging or by their very presence in the end after we knocked out the taliban just by being there. just sacrificed all they gained for us. it's heart breaking and infuriating. didn't have to happen. totally unnecessary. >> neil: joe lieberman, thanks very much. as a point that the senator and former presidential candidate likes to emphasize as he did today, nothing can be taken aware from those men and women, the 2,400 that sacrificed their lives and to know there was no follow up attack on the continental united states since that time we first arrived. we avoided that even though we are far from avoiding other crises. stay with us. ♪♪ (vo) the rule in business used to be, "location, location, location." now it's, "network, network, network." so you need a network that's built right. verizon business unlimited starts with america's most reliable network. then we add the speed of verizon 5g.
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>> all right. it's a mess. it's turning violent. protests and those that are just waiting outside that perimeter that the taliban set up outside the kabul airport trying to get in. tens of thousands we're told. only so many can get through. as we evacuate, now about 2,000 a day. we're learning that as many as 65,000 american and afghan friends want out. is there any chance at all they'll be able to get out? at least that number. especially when we're finding out it's not the u.s. calling the shots on who gets through the perimeter but the taliban. danny coulson, a former fbi director. this is tens of thousands of
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people that want out. the latest intelligence we're getting is that we're not going to that perimeter the taliban has set up. the taliban is controlling that perimeter and its deciding who gets through what do you think of that? >> it's true. think about this, neil. we've created the world's largest hostage situation. how do we get them out? we don't know who they are, where they are. i was in the hostage rescue business. the hardest thing about rescuing people is knowing where they are and who they are. we have chaos created by our own lack of planning and use that as an excuse for failure. i don't know how to get out of this. i'm not so sure it's possible. i would look to buying them out, doing whatever it takes to get them out of there. this is an impossible situation to deal with.
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>> neil: you don't know who you're getting out of there, right? bad guys could slip through. that's a big concern. >> yeah. exactly. the easiest thing about rescuing hostages what is the objective. the hardest thing is where are they? how do you get there? can we operate there? more importantly, once we get in, how do we get them out? the answer is we don't know, a terrible situation. lack of planning, artificial deadlines on what we're going to do which is the biggest mistake and now we have all of these people that need rescuing. i'm not sure how we're going to do it. we have great military, military planners, a lot of capable teams that can do rescues. but where do we start? >> neil: yeah. then you have to wonder when the defense secretary made clear that his job is to concentrate the forces inside the airport, not at the perimeter so it doesn't sound to me that we'll go to the perimeter and enforce
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the issue. that's not our intention.we're relying on the good will of the taliban to do it for us. what do you think of that? >> i remember afghanistan is a tribal environment. we have the taliban. we also have local tribal leaders that control their geographical area. what the taliban says today, the tribal leader may say no tomorrow. it's a fluid situation. we don't know what will happened with regards to commitments or agreements. it's not like the monolithic united states or soviet union. it's a group of tribes that may or may not agree and could change tomorrow. it's the worst possible scenario. >> neil: the taliban seems to be presenting this public image that we're new and different, improved, whatever you want to say. >> sandra: you know them well. you know the organization well, whatever you want to call it. are they different?
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are they -- have they changed? are they so concerned about their image to the world and the international stature that they get to get that money that has been frozen, that they can't get access to now that they'll behave differently? >> there's a possibility that they will do that. also the possibility that they'll change their mind tomorrow. they may say okay, we want this money. we have neil cavuto here. we can hold him for a couple million dollars or in your case $30. we'll get that money. that could be their money. that could be their cash cow. hostage taking is a very profitable operation. >> neil: you think this could become another iran with the fall of the shaw and ayatollah and could be that bad? >> it could be. what i'm concerned about, we'll have another blackhawk down situation. we know how that worked out,
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this didn't happen to happen, neil. they should have done this gradually, should have gotten the innocents out and kept bagram operational until the very end if that's what they wanted to do. not pull out our resources and leave everybody to their own devices. that was crazy. >> neil: real quickly. president biden was talking about we'll do whatever is necessary to get those americans out. that could go well past the end of august deadline to get out. do you think that is doable? >> they won't get them out by then. no. there shouldn't be a deadline. >> neil: if you do the math, right? it would go well into december and beyond. >> absolutely. could go to the end of the year with that many. and who you're dealing with. i don't have a lot of confidence in the state department to negotiate this. not because of the state because of who they're negotiating
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against. didn't have to happen. i'm disappointed the president didn't see anything wrong with it. makes me worry about our future. >> neil: i hope you're wrong. you haven't been in the past. the $30 comment about me, not withstanding. >> i'm sorry. >> neil: you're probably right. that would be generous. danny, thanks. former fbi assistant. finish your thought. >> no, i was going to say, i'll give you $30. >> neil: okay. good. that balances it out. danny, thanks for that. we were trying to crunch the numbers and do the math here. if you by the rough count, 65,000 to 70,000 that would want to leave now kabul as it stands, some are saying it's easily double that and take the rate at which we're doing it now, 2,000 a day, some say we will tick that upwards but it's much more than that. roughly talking 30 days, 60 days. again, the higher the count goes, those that want out, then it gets conceivable this drags
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if you've been financially impacted by covid-19, janssen may be able to help. >> neil: all right. so maybe two vaccination shots won't do it. a third will be a charm. the administration looking at booster shots as soon as next month. for those already vaccinated, is it necessary? let's ask dr. marty makary at johns hopkins. what do you think, a third shot? >> neil, the strength by which this recommendation was made so universally for every american was entirely disproportional to any supporting evidence whatsoever. we know break through infections are a little more common as we get out. i'm not sure they're avoidable. break through infections are seasonal. the way you saw a strong recommendation without any supporting data that a booster
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reduces the risk is a concern. i won't be getting a booster myself. >> so i think the president was looking at those that were vulnerable, the olderly, the compromised immune systems. would it be good for that subset? it's a large subsettle but that group of the population. >> i'd love to see the data. we don't have the data, a mild symptomatic case of covid-19 is probably seasonal. may make since for certain populations to reduce the risk of the common cold symptoms but the way it was recommended, that was the concern. let's wait for the data. the reason that we're talking about break through infections is the two doses were close together in the pfizer and moderna roll-out. when the closer convenience are, the shorter the interval, the less powerful the immunity is. it's been studied with pfizer at three months, 3.5 times
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stronger. that's what i did. >> neil: you talk about the break through cases. three more u.s. senators join lindsey graham as, you know, getting covid even though that they've been fully vaccinated. we saw greg abbott, same deal. what is going on with this? should we worry about this? >> again, this is something that we have not mentally come to accept as a society. we've been trying to achieve covid elimination. eradication is not possible. we'll see break through infections. they be mild. hopefully we'll see better therapeutics. it's something that we need to keep in mind is that we'll have to manage. we won't be able to booster our way out of mild infections. right now we have 200 million
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booster doses available. they should be overseas where variants emerge, not right here right now. >> neil: doctor, a lot of people are leery of getting vaccinated in the first place, looking at these break through cases and saying that's it. i'm not getting it. what do you tell them? >> look, people confuse break through cases with the vaccine not working. there's really two levels of protection. part of the problem is we've messaged the idea of efficacy or protection with one term. there's really two levels. there's a protection against death and disability. that's always been our battle and a protection against mild illness. that wanes we know that's the case. people need to know the vaccine works instead of break through infections. >> neil: thanks, dr. marty. >> thanks, neil. >> neil: by the way, we're in the process of seeing the biden
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>> neil: ahead of what could be thousands of afghan refugees making their way to the united states, many of them at the
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border, long come as proposal by the biden administration that says change our asylum processing rules. jonathan hunt with more in mission texas. what's going on, jonathan? >> normally anyone that crosses this border here seeking asylum would have to plead their case through a court and in front of a judge. but now the biden administration wants to change that and have agents with the u.s. citizenship and immigration services deal with those cases and in fact adjudicate them. merrick garland announcing this "today marks a step forward in our effort to make the asylum process fairer and more expeditious. this rule will reduce the case load in our immigration courts and protect the rights of those fleeing persecution and violence." there's plenty of critics that say that this is simply going to allow a lot more immigrants to get in. numbers u.s.a., an organization
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that advocates for less immigration, their deputy director told us today "rather than address asylum abuse at the border, this administration is throwing open the gates. this rule will further bog down the system, grant asylum to those with nonmeritorious cases and grant parole to aliens that by law should be detained." as you take a look at live pictures from our drone team, neil, i think everybody would agree that this -- everybody does agree that this will in fact speed up the asylum process. the question is here neil in these cases, is speed actually the enemy of good decision making. neil? >> neil: thanks for that. jonathan hunt at the border. meantime, in afghanistan, what if i told you forget about what is going on in that country. why it could be a preview of coming a tractions in other countries. by rootmetrics.
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for example, iraq is asking the question are we next, are we th next country to be abandoned fo eight our enemies he saw the brightman team cave in they are seeing the collapse in afghanistan under the same team. our enemies couldn't be happier about what's happening, and thi will have consequences throughout southwest asia in th middle east as well. >> what are some countries that you think have this sort of violence under pendant there or resurgence in terrorist activit that could be difficult? >> what we saw during the sprin is the fighters left afghanista to go kill in these other countries, so we saw the fracturing of syria, and we saw the fracturing of iraq. there are countries on the verg of the middle east. jordan as one of those countries . foreign fighters will go to afghanistan to receive training.
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all these groups will now be able to train, they will be abl to use u.s. captured equipment in will be trained by soldiers that were trained by the afghan by u.s. special operations meaning former soldiers. there is a taliban social walking the street outside the airport dress likes u.s. specia operators. they took the uniforms in their walking around like they are eight u.s. special operators in they happen to be taliban special forces. iran has deployed to put down protest inside of iran come in they hope to utilize their proxies and on the other side jihadist are looking to use theirs to further structure and destabilize the province of saudi arabia into go farther in go after allies like israel. >> what you make of the wall
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street journal story that president biden had pitched the idea with vladimir putin for u.s. to have a base outside of afghanistan and was slapped down ? what did you think that? >> i don't understand the collapse of leverage. the biden team collapsed with iran, and i made the argument i you cannot handle iran, how are you going to handle russia and china. to allow hooton to weigh in on where american forces go in former soviet republics that want nothing to do with food in yet putin has more of a state i the united states, that's not leadership, that is dreadful. >> we could still force the issue, right? >> absolutely. the secretary of defense austin was my commander in the second division. his answer yesterday about not being able to do things is not true. they can do things. the united states military can do things. they need to either own up for this, or in tell biden that he
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needs to change his policy, or they should resign. united states military should not be told what they can and cannot be due by the taliban an it certainly shouldn't be told what it can and cannot do by vladimir putin. >> thank you. i hope you're wrong on this. just this one time, i hope you're wrong. >> hello, everyone, i'm greg gutfeld. it is 5:00 p.m. in the new york city in this is the five. >> first he was in denial, now president biden is apparently delusional about the disaster i afghanistan. while the taliban has taken ove the country president biden seems confused by mixing update in claiming no one has been killed. >> there


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