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document and started february that document when she didn't mind is >> the trump administration find that document, correct? >> that's correct. >> and under that document, it had a very serious date for withdrawal. >> dana: hello, everyone, i dana perino along with katie pavlich, jesse watters, and pete hegseth. it's 5:00 and of this is "outnumbered." ♪ ♪ you are looking live at capitol hill and secretary of state anthony blanket in the hot seat testifying before the house kept born affairs committee on the chaotic exit from afghanistan which left americans behind, about 100 of them. we'll continue to monitor that for any breaking news. in the meantime lawmakers on both sides of the i like it in
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their first chance to hold the administration's feet to the fire over what went wrong. as with the secretary said in his opening statement. >> it's time to end america's longest war. there is no evidence that staying longer would have me the afghan security forces or the afghan government and a more resilient self-sustaining. 20 years and hundreds of billions of dollars of support in equipment and training would not suffice, why not another year, another five, another ten? >> we expect the taliban to make good on its commitment. to uphold the basic rights of afghan people. b-1 republicans are pressing the secretary and one whether any were blocked from leaving. >> to the state at any point the process black american citizens from leaving afghanistan? >> no we did not. >> so your testimony is the state did not block any american citizens? >> on the contrary.
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my officer is men and women ran from around the world. >> yes or no, i just want to clarify. you didn't block anybody? >> we lived there to help americans get out. >> dana: pizza, let me start with you. the accountability for this is what is going to be a question for quite a while, even if it's only about 30 days since it all started going down in terms of, it feels like over the weekend, everything had changed in terms of the war on terror. two people feel safer? and we will talk about democrats being frustrated and warrant to mike worried, yelp and that i was on with neil caputo and he was very critical and said the president ought to admit his mistakes. >> where we are compared to 20 years ago, you can't deny the fact that tony blinken and they
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square with the actions, from what he can oversee to what he would never ever do. and do you think that's why he was trying to be so careful in the way he answered that question michael >> he was but he also said it, no. no we rush into the building. no, we were there to facilitate. no, you black people every school turn and you could never end. mike answered the actual question as far as a number of people. so give or take a the americans, as iv, we are vetting them as we go to the process that we don't actually know whether there's a big difference between siv applicants who have been vetted through process and at risk afghans who were hoarded onto an airfield at the last minute with
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very little vetting. the information we are getting so far is that most of the people that made it through are not siv holder so that process will unravel and it's all because what he said was true. we said in march of the would bring a responsible and to the troops. of course we did know those 13 games, and many of the taliban who are in charge at 9/11 are in charge now. >> dana: and they were exchanged for bowe bergdahl. >> pete: you know how anthony black don't like lincoln describes that? they have a challenging track record. >> dana: the state department never lets you down in terms of the way to speak. there was a lot of blaming of democrats, they tried to blame president trump. we have a little bit of sound, watch this. >> there was a protest with the trump administration negotiated a deal with the taliban. >> how meticulous with the planning for the trump
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administration declared me first withdrawal? >> thank you congressman. we inherited a deadline but we did not inherit a plan. so no plan at all. >> among us 5,000 people released with the consent and it negotiated agreement with the trump administration, i guess our concern about terrorists is pretty selective. >> dana: it just say, your thoughts? this before and that's why they didn't really lay a glove on him because they don't have to write questions. republicans today needed to zero in on what biden and his team are saying publicly and how that wasn't really the truth if you compare it to the embassy cables, the intelligence briefings, the facts on the ground, the phone call between joe and the afghan president, that's the nexus of the scandal, that's the dereliction of duty and that's where the lies lay, that's where the cover-up was. they don't have to write question and that's why they are going to run mr. hex seth for congress so they can get on the
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committee. we did find out he has no clue how many americans are still there and the taliban is still blocking things and we found out basically that potent booted joe biden from central asia so we don't have any basing rights to give us that, as he loves to say, over the horizon capability. it actually seems like the fbi interviewed blinken about the hunter biden criminal probe. that slipped out during the hearing. so at a boy republicans there. but the guy was so boring at that was a strategy. and you know dana, i don't like to make personal attacks on the show. >> dana: i know you don't, you made a new year's resolution that you really held us to it. us before he so boring that paint watches him drive. i tried because i couldn't follow, putting the subtitles up on tv, but the tv wouldn't even do that. it's like when the dog whistles, humans can't hear it. it's like a mortician combined with a podiatrist and a hostage
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negotiator, it just kind of washes over you. even members of congress who i've never seen, they can't get booked on cable. they were more compelling than anthony lincoln but that's the strategy, worried to death while everyone else dies. >> one of the things that antony blinken said in his opening statement is, he basically kept saying, if we had stayed longer, it wasn't like the afghan army wasn't going to be able to sustain but that wasn't really the question. >> they are trying to focus on the idea that americans want out of afghanistan, and that's not the point. also let's not forget that president biden in july said that there is no way that the afghan army is going to get run over and the taliban will take over the country and here we are. so when he throws up his hands and says, we didn't know this is going to happen, nobody knew.
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they did know and the president lied to the country about it. i want to focus on what he said to come to, when he said we inherited a deadline and not a plan. they are trying to rewrite history here. this administration push the deadline from may which was the trump deadline to september, to the fighting. when -- to september 11. where the taliban was going to be stronger which is why they marched all over afghanistan instead of being able to get out in may. they say that they were just executing president trump's plan in the last couple of weeks with the chaos but now he saying that he wasn't given a plan. so which one is it? we also so i can say in april that he wanted to withdrawal responsibly, deliver lien safely but that didn't happen. i was on the plane in february 2020 when the secretary of state mike pompeo released the framework for this agreement with the taliban which was also in agreement with that the taliban and afghan government had to work together. there were conditions.
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we killed taliban leaders that were involved in any kind of violence. we went 18 months with zero u.s. casualties in afghanistan and we just had 13 american service members killed, many of them wounded and americans were left behind. so this idea now that they were going to say, they didn't have a plan, or they did have a plan and it was trump's plan, and that was getting out of the country and it was successful and responsible way. that's definitely a tactic because they were trying to focus on the polling point. >> dana: if this is not the only hearing come out there's one tomorrow. and they are saying they don't want to focus on the last 30 days, they want to focus on the last 20 years. >> everyone wants to get in a
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couple of pot shots at the opposing party, get their cable news sound bites of jesse watters know who they are, and that was pretty hard about the humanitarian issues. and these are at risk people in these communities that are being left behind from us which is one of the central pledges of why joe biden and frankly every american president always said, human rights matter. and they obviously don't. and they approve of the decision and up next, as president biden
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our thanks. your rewards. >> pete: joe biden defending his disastrous withdrawal from afghanistan while former obama officials are calling them out and biden is admitting he could have helped create a new terrorism safe haven.
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>> president biden: it's already back other places, what's the strategy? every place where al qaeda is, we would invade. i'm on. 70% of american people would have a hard time, but the flip of it is they didn't like the way we got out. but it's hard to explain to anybody, how could you do it? >> pete: biden getting slammed by former obama officials from making a terror threat in america worse. >> the taliban is harboring al qaeda today. the taliban winning the war in afghanistan, and then the way our exit happened, has absolutely inspired jihadists all over the world. not only will jihadists be inspired, but a lot of them are going to come to afghanistan to be part of the celebration, to be part of jihadists central. >> the most important thing for
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this president to do is be willing to accept responsibility for the mistakes and move on. and to basically do what is necessary now to protect our national security. >> pete: you don't often see this especially amongst democrats, former obama and cia officials coming out and saying, except responsibility because you just made the problem worse. >> dana: and leon panetta pointed out the fact that he thinks there was mistakes made but you don't hear that from anyone in the biden administration. they linked arms, it's red rover, red rover, send them over. you're sending over obama people. but it reminded me of something. do we remember when robert gates, the secretary came out and he said they had not been right on any foreign policy issue in the last 30 years? that's pretty strong. as i recall there wasn't a lot of defense of the vice president at the time. people didn't pilot on but they
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kept their powder dry, they didn't say much. i think americans want to be on offense against al qaeda when president biden says what are we going to do, invite every country that has al qaeda? no one is suggesting that. the strawman arguments really frustrating but america does need to be on offense against al qaeda wherever they are. we can argue about afghanistan and getting in, but that is just a false equivalent there. the last thing i would say is, it took the botching of the afghanistan a hasty retreat to bring americans together. you now have a bipartisan agreement that it was -- that people wanted to get out of afghanistan but then it was handled terribly on the way out and they are embarrassed by it, humiliated and they want the americans to pay out. it doesn't look like that's happening anytime soon especially for those outside beads. at the last bipartisan point is that people do not feel more
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safe today than they did before 9/11. >> pete: and to what dana just said maybe the obama officials knew who joe biden was all along. and they knew you put him in a situation like this where he might makes dynamic decision and ultimately places blame anywhere else. >> jesse: it when i see panetta, i noticed obama and hillary. they've both been dead silence since the sting broke out and they are kind of speaking for hillary and barack. break down the statement for me, pete. do me the honor. it's an al qaeda comeback, but it's already back in other places. does that make you feel safe? how about this, what's the strategy? every place where al qaeda is we invade and have troops there, come on. and that's like saying you don't
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like my hair. they not, you don't like my hair? i'm just going to shave it off. and how else could you get out? every pundit on television has been saying, you keep bigram and delete air support in while you pull out the allies and the civilians, may be coordinate with nato and they get all the hardware out before the chinese can steal it. come on man. >> how could you get out any other conceivable way? is this a democratic view? what is the foreign policy, what with the democrats say that foreign policy is? al qaeda is all over the place. >> i haven't heard anyone but the president saying that and that's certainly not what jen psaki is saying. that's not what antony blinken is saying today, that's the president and a very casual exchange with a reporter, i'll give you that. >> on 9/11? >> yeah. i don't think anyone -- if you
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look at joe biden schedule, i don't think there's any way to think about what he doesn't care about it. but i really don't want to go there. he was ground zero in the morning and he released a great statement so let's leave that. as for the criticism, what's more interesting to me, these are obama-biden officials. it's an administration. and obviously people have their preferences and they say we want this guy and we want this but these are those from your own team because it's not just democrats saying that. it's ones that you've worked with for years and people who you've often worked with for decades when you are in this kind of position certainly in relation when he was a chairman. >> pete: but that's what makes a criticism much more stinging.
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michael morale is saying we have inspired jihadists. could we do this if necessary? >> of course he could. we have the capability to do this and they are choosing not to. they are saying the press secretary is saying something and the president of the united states is in charge of the security of the country. it's a commander in chief's number one job which is protecting americans and it's the idea that he saying al qaeda is everywhere, so throwing up my hands and it's a very defeatist attitude. he has this attitude from the position of weakness where we are relying on the taliban to get people out. there are americans left behind and his attitude should be we will fight them wherever they are and we have the capability to do that and they should mess around and find out. but instead he saying, what do you want me to do?
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that's your job. your job is to do something. >> pete: instead we've been taking effectively orders from the taliban. that means we don't have all the ingredients it would normally have which means you end up droning an aid worker with water bottles. coming up, what g.o.p. governors planned to do about mandates.
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now looking to take the president to court saying the mandate is an overreach. >> the problem is i'm trying to overcome resistance but the president's actions in the mandate hardens of resistance. it should be a personal health care choice, not something the government should mandate. >> he's got no authority to do what he's doing, we will stand up for people's jobs and we will stand up for people's freedoms and their livelihoods. and we are going to be on the front line with this full-spectrum response. >> dr. anthony fauci is back with even more restrictions for unboxed americans. >> if we do it in the next six months, and it will happen in the next six months, if we do it in the next two months it will happen in the next two months. i would support that if you want to get on a plane and travel with other people you should be vaccinated. >> jesse: pete, take it back to the top. if you think that you mandate
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getting vexed at work, it will make people dig in and say no? >> pete: yes, i think it will make them want to get a religious exemption, they found. [laughs] i think the more you force, the more you mandate, the more people have been making rational choices in their own life, he suddenly make more rash choices and say, how dare you? is not part of the americans. you don't get to tell me what to do, i get to make my own personal health choices? also what gets people is, who is exempt from this? congress is exempt, members of congress don't have to apply. of course they don't. i think also teachers in many cases, something else that tony fauci said was revealing, he asked about natural immunity and his answer was, honestly, that's a really good point. i don't have a firm answer for you on that. how are you -- anthony fauci, because he knows.
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if you actually add up natural immunity, we are getting closer and closer. that's a first time i've heard him use the word herd immunity. >> jesse: now there are conversations about planes, katie, but the biden administration can't get on the same page. some want the vaccination mandates to fly and other say no, not so fast. it's confusing me. >> katie: they have all the technology to make sure the air is safe, and it's double or triple filtered or whatever, and they are limiting their credibility again. the reason why people are so distrusting of this and why governors are -- their legal teams are fighting back is because they've been lied to. the president that he wasn't going to do this, dr. fauci said it shouldn't happen, the cdc director said it shouldn't happen and jen psaki said it shouldn't happen, and now all of a sudden they are throwing it out there and saying it's
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happening and that companies are forced to do this, but by the way there are all of those heard exceptions. they said data from blood donation shows that covid-19 antibodies increased from 25% to 83.3% after the rollout of the code vaccine. if you add natural immunity on top of that, we are clearly at herd immunity on the question is why are they now throwing the hammer down even harder and denying this reality of herd immunity? >> jesse: so katie according to calculations we are now at her herd immunity america. and the boosters. are we getting the boosters now? where do we stand on boosters? >> it's in limbo now about the boosters. senior citizens have become eligible, the ones who went first. my mother just got her appointment for her booster shot in the next couple of weeks. and we should want to protect
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them, there is some confusion. but i want to say this is a fallacy because he can just take a test. you don't have to get vaccinated. and they said they would fire you, right? >> a timeout for private business. you serve in the military and you have 17 inoculations. but there are also private businesses, and look what delta did? and i was i $100 surcharge for everyone that wasn't vaccinated and they saw huge bombs in the numbers of people went and got vaccinated. >> jesse: or if you are a member of congress, congress and illegals. >> dana: i had charles koch on "america's newsroom" talking
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about this incoherent policy of the biden administration. biden is blocking them. you cannot come to the united states from its countries but there are countries that have 3% vaccinated, and they are all allowed to come in. that's an incoherent policy that should be fixed. president biden verbally attacked the end vaccinated and that is what led to the hardening of everyone's position. so he ran on, it's not working out the way that he wants. he called on on people to divide rather than unite. the next thing i would say is ask yourself, do you really want to solve the problem? there are people that are too hesitant to get the vaccine if you think that's the problem. last week on got failed!
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, they were asking about the vaccine. however, i also believe in your individual liberty. so the headlines out of the interview worked, president trump encourages people to get vaccinated. if they chose the second part, they say president trump says people should be hesitant and have a right to be, it was even more egregious than that. so you have to ask yourself. if you are the president for the media, do you really want to solve the problem or do you want the issue? >> and that's why the fake news has always been the enemy of american people. up next, gavin newsom pulling out all the stops to stay in california. president biden coming to his rescue later tonight. ♪ ♪ retirement income is complicated. as your broker, i've solved it. that's great, carl. but we need something better.
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♪ ♪ >> katie: of the voters whether governor newsom will keep his job. president biden is on the ground in the golden state. at newsom is telling californians what's at stake. >> we are debating democracy in this country. we are better than trump and trumpet will vote no on this. >> g.o.p. candidate larry elder thing the governors out elders won't even defend him. >> can ever say the following magical words, gavin newsom is doing a good job for the people of california. they can't defend his record on crime, on homelessness, the way he ignores signs and shuts down the state. >> pete, obviously the tides have shifted, the democrats woke up and they said it we want to keep the democrat in now. it looks like newsom and do you
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see any big errors in the elder campaign? he said he would replace dianne feinstein, donald trump today put out a statement that said republicans should vote because it's raked. >> i think the era republicans are going to face is that the state is full of left-wing democrats who will ultimately outnumber republicans. the president put putting out that mail and balloting is fraught with problems is not a controversial statement and it's a statement that they can't rightly, and it's fraught with problems. it's been pulling in different directions, and they seem to not care about the crime and the homeless, the wildfires and the school closures and they seem to be just fine. they are teaming up with the media to be a self made a black
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man. what's happening in california is the face of the modern democrat party and good on larry elder for running it. but right now it doesn't look great. >> katie: dana, you've been covering this closely. >> dana: watch for the independent vote, they are the most enthusiastic about voting. so if it's off year election or a recall, if they are the most interested or most enthusiastic, to me that's not good for the incumbent. i do think the recall process is hard, complicated and it's weird. the best recall is certainly in a general election, i it's very rich for people to come out and say larry elder would be terrible for communities of color. and then communities of color, and president trump in the 2020 election is doing better with
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hispanics. i do think there's an opportunity here with republicans, and they make additional progress and they will be some signs that they should continue to push forward. before if you live in calpurnia and what your lights on comp vote elder. if you don't want your house to burn down because of a fire in a forest that gavin mismanaged, boat elder. if you don't want to get shot by an ex-con who got released early on parole, vote elder. if you don't want to walk over a homeless man with needles sticking out all over the place, boat elder. elder won't get rid of gay marriage or candidates or hurt black people. elder is black. they don't want you to know that in california, they want you to think he's a white supremacist and that's with the newsom strategy is. and it's been atrocious.
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>> larry elder did say that, and larry elder if people don't know, has a very deep history and knowledge of all of these issues and he's entitled to his opinion, as a black man in america. he doesn't have to be told by the liberal left what to think about these issues and he's running on issues. is not running to promote president trump, is running on all the things like crime and the things in that interview. they have really reveal themselves and "the washington post" had a reporter at one of his events in california and he called the assault by a white woman in a gorilla mask with the egg that she tried to throw at him a "egg throwing incident." so that just shows you that you are allowed to be a republican as long as you fit into the perfect box and it will smear you and they will throw these
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things aside that would be complete national news stories for weeks on end with every person in the party having to condemn it. just wash it away is little incident. i'm proud of larry elder and i think there's a lot of conservatives in california, that are grateful that he stepped up to the plate and to get on the ballot, and we worked really hard to get him there. you know what, maybe there's a chance. >> this crazy video that everyone is talking about, football fans saving a falling cat with an american flag.
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♪ ♪ >> katie: this is amazing video of fans at a college football game this weekend spring into action to save a cat. before the feeling was dangling from the side of a balcony about 50 feet from the air and let go but quick thinking people used an american flag is a net to help save him. the couple pulled it off that often rescues explaining how they do it. >> frequently has defaults from
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the upper deck and goes down below and sometimes it's thrown and sometimes it's dropped. they started pointing up and at that time my wife and i look up and we could see an animal but we couldn't tell what kind of animal it was. >> katie: you're a cat gaia, so would you have used the flag to save this feline? >> pete: unabashedly iccat gaia, they are superior to dogs, clearly in their survivability. do any of the dog owners here believe eric dog could survive such a fall? >> dana: probably not, you would need a larger flag. >> pete: it's amazing that they have the flag and travel dare to go. and how did the cat get there? i brought my cat to fox & friends and i have never been so nervous in my life. i was convinced when he got out of the carrier which was a cardboard box, he was going to
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get loose in the studio and i would never catch him again. >> jesse: that was a most nervous i've ever seen you. >> katie: doesn't just mean america is going to be okay? >> dana: that's what our enemies don't understand about america. in that college football stadium we had americans of every race, creed and color and they were all, number one, compassionate and caring about the cat. they cheered when the cat was caught, and when the guy held the cat up like simba and the lion king, the crowd went wild and that's what makes america great. it was perfect for the anniversary of 9/11. >> katie: the cat looked terrified when he was caught. but i mean, i wouldn't have lasted like three seconds with this upper body strength. >> jesse: thought cat dropped faster than joe biden's approval rating katie. i disagree strongly with pete
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hegseth well-liked but is totally wrong on this. how ungrateful is this cat? can he save the cat's life and all the cat does when you pick it up and show it to the crowd a scratch she went has set you? a dog would lick you with it you saved its life. basics because we serve cats, that's the relationship that we have with cats. >> katie: i have to say jesse is right, i rescued a cat from a dumpster once and he bit me and that was the end of my cat loves. "one more thing" up next.
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exclamation, exclamation. two t's and exclamation points. we have kat timpf, indicate arey pavlich. really funny comedian tune in 11:00 p.m. eastern time. don't watch it if you are greg. greg, i don't want you watching. >> i cannot wait for this. i have it dvred as i always do. take a moment to let everybody know about a special that was actually leased by the fox news digital team. go to see part one of what is called the gathering storm. it just came out. so, it's about a 14-minute long video. it is excellent. and it tells you about this 96 heroic earth by our people to get the americans out. also it talks about what happened in terms of leaving bagram in the middle of the night. this is only part 1. i watched it last night.
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i thought it was fantastic there are insights from former cia intelligence officer and a former u.s. deputy assistant secretary of defense. they are very candid about it all. and i was just super impressed. that's called the gathering storm. they did an excellent job. pete? >> pete: future administrations can watch that to see exactly what not to do. >> dana: after the action report right there. >> pete: pretty cool story from a young lady. the are ladies final saturday with layla fernandez taking on emma. >> dana: very good five points. >> pete: although she is canadian la la finished the match runner-up. >> new york has suffered the past the years when it did happen and i just wanted to let them know that they are so strong, they are so resilient. just having them here, happy, lively and just going back to the way they were and having my back in these tough moments has made me stronger.
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>> pete: athletes with perspective are very nice thing to see, especially for young people. again, 19 paying tribute to new yorkers on the 20th anniversary. i would like to hear more of that. >> dana: super cool and canadian. >> pete: sometimes. >> dana: i loved seeing the two young ladies play and i think you will see them a lot for the next probably 15 years. jessica? >> jessica: awesome. so i mentioned a couple weeks ago that there was going to be this 9/11 charity comedy show that pete davidson whose father was first responder or fireman passed away on 9/11 and jon stewart were hosting and it happened last night incredible comic about dave chapelle in person for the first time. john my lynn any was there. michael weekend update. it was great. special guests. a firefighter before he made it in show business and went back to ladder company from long island after 9/11 no phobes just
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you and thousands of people all fully vaccinated laughing what was a tough weekend so for some of us. incredible are. a lot of very funny jokes repeat it was supposed to be this private thing hopefully they air it. >> katie: i know you have seen jury was stick park and growing of dinosaurs in a lab and going poorly. we constructing woolly man moth teamed up with gin net cyst to deextinct the woolly man moth called colossal aims to create new woolly mammoth to withstand artic temperatures. the goal is to create a woolly mammoth calf? six years. lack of funds put it on ice.
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it received $50 million in funding recently from investors. >> dana: wait? why would we do this? >> katie: like the people who open up egyptian mummies just leave it alone. just leave it alone. >> dana: that was a great show everyone. don't forget exclamation point with watts tonight. that's it for the "special report" is up next. get. >> bret: that was a great show i like jesse's imitation of greg. can i get one more? >> jesse: we have tyrus! >> bret: that's all i needed. good evening and welcome to washington i'm bret baier welcome to our new "special report" set here on capitol hill it halls a new look it has a lot of bells and whistles that we will show you in coming days. today news came from capitol hill and one fiery committee hearing. >> bret: breaking tonight president biden's top diplomat puts the number of americans still trying to get out of afghanistan at, quote: roughly 100.


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