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in this amount of time. pete: go to eachmcmahonpumpkins.com. >> it is i would say one month, it could take 2 or 3 hours. pete: we are out of time. have a great day. neil: this halloween weekend the president looks to scare up some support from half a world away for some sort of framework that allows the big spending bill to pass. let's just say it is looking pretty scary for him right now. the president has been meeting with counterparts from around the world, the richest nations on the planet and committing themselves to some pretty
expensive stuff including a worldwide minimum corporate tax of 15% they hope to have instituted by 2023, sooner than thought. we are monitoring each of these elements from half a world away from president in key states. polls are narrowing and it is not a given even in new jersey the democratic governor is a layup. we are following this development with a special one on one, the former governor of virginia is not surprised the race has turned to his favor. doug wilder is here, the candidate creating waves in the garden state, outlining some of his ideas that he thinks are resonating in the highest of high tax states. so much to get into. i am neil cavuto.
a lot of tricks, very few treats when it comes to saving money in washington. more on that in a second. amy kellogg in rome. >> reporter: getting together again since the distance the pandemic forced on all of them. the g 20 represents 60% of the planet. 75% of international trade and senior white house administration official said last night this is an example of president biden being committed to face-to-face diplomacy at the highest level. as he glad hands systems, elbow taps his way to a covid cautious reality that he is escaping is a budget deal as
yet not finalized flagging poll ratings to bring back deliverables to boost his family and time for those key elections in virginia and new jersey you mentioned on november 2nd. biden's people claim this meeting in a rome compound originally conceived as bonito mussolini's show off expo site, isn't lofty, detached and an elite gathering but biden is doing diplomacy for the middle class. set a global been a mom corporate tax which the biden administration thinks keep from american jobs going overseas, and $60 billion of revenue in the united states, unblocking supply-chain interruptions and stabilizing energy markets plus unilateral fence mending and bridge building like here with france fuming over the decision to give a $90 billion nuclear submarine deal originally promised to them to australia. >> not done with a lot of
grace. finally in a moving start to this summit, mario draghi bringing a host of healthcare workers, onto the stage for the famous g 20 family photo. another it should be on the climate they will be talking about is ways to foresee and prevent a pandemic. neil: back to the united states as the president is cajoling them half a world away. lucas tomlinson, where do they stand? >> reporter: president biden's entire domestic agenda is on the line, $2 trillion in hopes
of getting democratic hold out joe manchin and kristen sinema on board. many republicans not sure what the price tag is. >> talking about a bill we don't know at the end of the day how much it will cost. this is being negotiated by people who have no appreciation in finances and the national debt. >> this is new green new durrell subsidies that will kill job creation. >> reporter: subsidies for electric cars, some question the environmental impact of mining for copper to make the batteries needed for these electric cars, swapping fossil fuels for another mineral, copper. democrats rush to defend what the white house caused the largest effort to combat climate change and focus on education. >> here's why the bills back better bill is good, universal preschool for everyone, child
care is covered, massive investment in solar and wind. >> reporter: 80% of solar panels under labor practices many find questionable to the massive bills republicans favor one over the other. >> the infrastructure bill which is supposed to be paid for ads $398 billion to the debt and has a lot of questionable provisions that it is the better of the two. >> reporter: the impact of the two bills goes beyond washington, the midterms and the governor's race across the potomac and virginia could be affected and great to see you back in studio. neil: you have been very kind. lucas tomlinson, never has these. the washington examiner, looking at the impact in washington, this could play a
part, what do you make of that. >> voted for biden in november of 2020 wondering what they got for doing that at this point. there hasn't been a lot of productivity in the biden administration. things of gotten worse economically. covid restrictions are in place in a lot of areas. with governor murphy after election bid and terry mcauliffe's reelection campaign running different campaigns, different styles of campaigns and one thing they have in common that is not resonating with voters they are not talking about issues voters are saying time and again that they are most concerned about. inflation, education, having a job, affording groceries, those are not things either candidate is talking about. they are continuing to run against donald trump and a version of the republican party
that isn't realistic, not a realistic picture democrats are painting so you are seeing that show up in the polls, democrats are going to learn some hard what lip is -- lessons tuesday. neil: i have trouble understanding, democratic voters would be so excited about this large spending bill, whether it is $1.5 trillion, will seal the deal if even they could get to a vote before the election which is extremely unlikely. are we overplaying that or democrats overpromising that? >> reporter: one thing i think democrats and president biden have botched is tying this bill to the impact it would have for people. when you look at surveys how they feel about the bill people are making the connection this bill is going to help them with the economic pressures they are
facing. democrats haven't been making that argument because they've been too busy fighting among themselves about what will be in the bill and haven't pivoted to the point they are trying to sell it to the american people because they are trying to sell it to each other. even if this bill were to get past, people can see the benefits for the program before the elections tuesday and there are not necessarily making the connection now that those programs will help them. the passage or failure of the bill to pass is overblown in terms of impact on the race and the perception the democrats are in disarray is baked in right now to how democrats are feeling. neil: the biggest component of this measure, half $1 trillion devoted to climate change which is all well and good but that is not how it started. i am wondering for voters, not only these crucial states but ahead to the midterms next year, we are concerned about rising prices for the time being, now you've got the
pricey package the priciest component of which is to address climate change, however you feel about climate change, a huge disconnect. >> reporter: climate change is not something people, voters, servant voters, democrats need to retain her congressional majority. that is not something voters are citing is a factor in their decision about this race and democrats don't have a compelling counterargument on issues of the economy and inflation and jobs, what republicans are offering right now which is a roadmap to get out of this economic turmoil we are facing. that is what glenn youngkin and jack to rally are talking about. what they are talking about is voters concerned, what democrats are choosing to talk about is out of touch with what people are saying is driving there though, their concerns.
president biden is guilty of that, the climate change makes of the greatest proportion of that bill while people are having trouble filling their gas tanks and buying groceries is emblematic of the problem with the democratic party right now. neil: i am in new jersey and it is interesting when you look at the polls in new jersey, the economy not surprisingly but higher prices the subtext to that and simply a lot higher, taxes, one of the highest taxed states in the nation when talking about texas, that does seem to be resonating. governor murphy, the democratic incumbent has a comfortable lead among under dependence his neck in neck and way down for the advantage he had in the summer. how prepared is the political world prepared for an upset? >> reporter: if he were to win
in new jersey that would be an earthquake for democrats. hasn't registered in the polls as likely to occur but new jersey is a heavily suburban state where democrats enjoyed a lot of recent successes where they need to retain voters over them to lose a block in a deep blue state in new jersey would be catastrophic for them but if governor murphy is reelected with this, if the margin is small, independents break overwhelmingly for jack ciattarelli, the other data points could give democrats some lessons in virginia and if glenn youngkin pulled off a victory that would be an upset. democrats may have to look at the strategy when trump is no longer on the ballot and reevaluate how to get to the midterms and find a way to talk about kitchen table issues in a compelling manner that can
connect with voters because they are not doing that now. >> whatever worked for gavin newsom at the recall election, doesn't necessarily pan out in virginia and new jersey. we are watching closely. we will talk to jack ciattarelli on this phenomenon in the bluest of blue states, new jersey. in the meantime thank you very much. a couple development we tend to follow up on, we tend to pay a lot of attention but suppose they are way off. when doug wilder was running for governor of virginia, he led by 30 points in the polls. virginians were open to an african-american governor. he still won but it was much much closer. maybe at the time people said one thing and voted another. he's here to remind us be careful with those polls, very careful. he is next. hello, for the last few years, i've been a little obsessed with chasing the big idaho potato truck.
neil: especially in the virginia ballot that has a to state and a purple state that used to be a red state going sharply the other way. be careful relying on these. it is fair to say it wasn't a walk. you were saying at the time. do you think the same is the case here in the democrat academy? >> the last one you took.
this election will be a turnout election. to that extent the people who are committed turnout. what was the message delivered to the voters for the turn out. neil: the education issue has grown to be an interesting one in that state. whether mcauliffe realized it when he dismissed the role parents should play in their kids education, his opponents pounded that and it really has been an election changing issue. i wonder if it carries the republican candidate all the way? >> several things. education has always been key in any election. the more important thing, what
is it about the challengers that is different from the person who had it before. youngkin had no experience, mcauliffe had none. people in virginia are asking what do you bring that you had to come back to the extent of saying bold and imaginative leadership is needed. what about the current governor? bold and imaginative leadership, criticism of the current leadership. a lot of people asking that question. anyone coming to virginia, campaigning for the democrats, is campaigning to campaign for black votes. no democrat will win an election without big turnout of the african-american community.
you see it with the vice president and others running for office and the current officeholders. the question is what do you bring, to say to those voters, the reasons for you to be elected? todd: do you think terry mcauliffe has made that? the enthusiasm for him does not seem to be what would normally be the case for a former governor looking for the job again and the inroads the republican candidate has made, a continued stride to. i or why there isn't this enthusiasm? mcauliffe said can't take anything for granted. depending on the pole, he's not in position to take the ultimate. >> if you ask the real question during four years he was
governor, the question would be medicaid expansion to medicaid, the deciding vote for that, the lieutenant governor gets no credit and all the other persons were called upon to resign and ask every person in statewide office leadership to re-sign and one is running with you that you run with the endorsement which you ask for and the question that you ask needs to be answered, why was that necessary and what did you do that you have not done, what you did do that is so remarkable. we don't have successive governors in virginia. no governor has ever run for
election in virginia to come back other than he ran as a democrat and came back and ran as a republican but for this to happen, mister mcauliffe ran against people of color, were persons of color so he felt none were qualified. neil: he did bring in barack obama to see if he could improve the numbers and see if that works out. very good seeing you again. please start aging. >> you are doing well. i remember you and i having one of our first encounters with the tea party. neil: absolutely. >> you and i have always had a great relationship. god bless you. neil: thank you very much. douglas wilder, the polls can be a little wrong. on capitol hill, big oil ceos
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>> you made $29 million poisoning the planet. >> one of her colleagues said we have 11 years left to save the planet. >> are you can is lowering production? >> the issue -- >> yes or no, reduce production when the president of the united states is begging opec to increase production. that may be the dumbest thing i ever heard. neil: it was meant to address climate change but not much was set of general price changes in oil and gas. you see every day when you fill
up your car but it was not a topic of discussion with the biggest ceos of the biggest energy companies on the planet, gathered in washington and treated like piñatas. the tip of the hat to andy because long before we started seeing the sheer scope of price hikes in energy he was forecasting it. whether he still sees price hikes coming, how do you see it now? >> thanks for having me. oil prices have continued to rally in spite of demand starting to be capped because of these high-energy prices. over the next couple months, gasoline prices will peak as we get into early 2022. the new thing that appeared in
the oil market is the iranian nuclear negotiator is willing to sit down for talks in november, increasing supply down the road. neil: in the meantime, gathering in rome they are talking about climate change and go full throttle monday when they start discussing it, sporadic protests that the world is not doing enough. i notice there is a concerted effort to make sure the richest nations pay up for this. leavitt ---- very little about the rising energy prices as they stand. a calculated mistake as you see it, are you all in on energy including traditional energy open to wind and solar and all that because one or the other seems to be producing this confusion. >> it is all of the above
approach where you have some wind, solar, fossil fuel, for the last couple years, china closed down hundreds of coal mines as the economy has recovered, coal prices have gone up, they switch to natural gas, natural gas prices have increased 5fold in asia and europe, those consumers are switching to oil and then we see an increase in oil demand so it is all connected. the bottom line is the sun isn't shining and the wind isn't blowing you need some fossil fuel plant to handle the baseload. neil: you and i were talking in the early days of the biden administration, not to pin this on him but there was a calculated decision to just shut down keystone, put less priority on domestic oil
drilling and tracking and bring in other energy sources. to your point do you think it would have been wiser, whatever views on oil change, don't sacrifice something giving us energy independence and cheaper prices. was that in retrospect a big mistake? >> consumer demands affordable energy and to the consumer it means lower prices and the keystone pipeline would have gotten increased production out of canada and supply the consumer with more oil in an oil market that continues to grow, it is a number of years away but it is one of timing, if the people -- if you keep the keystone pipeline in service it would take a number of years to get oil production up. at the same time it takes a number of years for solar and
wind to come online through various parts of the world. neil: baron's is talking about $5 a gallon gas. >> i am not because there is a big reaction from the consumer at $4 a gallon on the demand side. you are already seeing pressure on opec, with the pandemic. at a faster rate. neil: nice seeing you. the energy expert has been uncannily prescient. putting what the holiday season could be looking like in perspective. first we learn the likelihood that a lot of the gifts we wanted wouldn't be in time to put under the tree, then we heard there might be a devil of
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no atlanta bureau. it started in my apartment with a fax machine at a cell phone. neither had anybody calling for stories. as a reporter early on, i am from fox news, is that the simpsons network? people said this is a niche audience. the niche was half the country. for me it was 9/11, started doing live shots with the burning pentagon behind me. what changed me is this is bigger. it is an honor and to think about all the stories, all the things we have been through. really good to be here. neil: a lot has happened in 25 years. something we didn't see 25 years ago that is rearing its ugly head, inflation, supply chain disruptions exacerbating price increases and the likes
of amazon and apple warning not going away anytime soon. they will make things dicey not only for the holidays but the fourth quarter or beyond. is it that big a worry and should we be that concerned? jonas, welcome, all of you. this idea that it is going to be a bumpy ride through the holidays. >> it will be a bumpy ride through sale season because you can't create much demand. i don't think it is a supply chain issue. it is a demand issue. a lot of demand for a lot of product because of the changes in demand behavior because of covid spending or disruptions, people not going to concerts to buy bicycles or something and they are not able to meet production.
there are production issues related to shutdowns but most shortages you see are in countries that are earning budget deficits like the uk. it is people have essentially too much money and not producing as much, working at home, not as productive. they were giving checks to retirees who were not producing and now they are consuming more. they didn't have an income. all the demand and supplies, what it is, company like amazon complaining about this. sales growth, the highest ever, goes up 30% last year because that's the shift in consumer behavior to them. other companies it has not been so wonderful. walmart doesn't have the same issue so it is a massive demand change, what you buy, how much you have to spend, overtaking a tight supply chain for the pandemic. neil: higher prices still to
come, how much higher, i am looking at how you cringe the numbers. in the month of october with all the averages, record highs and all appreciated 6% or 7%, all running ahead at a double-digit pace year-to-date so i don't think they seem too rattled. >> i'm not rattled as far as how the market is reacting. the market is not going to have a major correction until something happens with interest rates. we may be forced into the situation depending on whether we end up in a recessionary period. with inflation out of control. let me say this. i was one of the people early on that said jay powell was wrong saying this was going to be transitory and the reason i
said that is i did not see policy that was going to change. for example we are now moving towards vaccine mandates. some people will get the vaccination because of that but a lot of people will choose not to work as a result. when that happens we will have a bigger problem with less labor when we have a shortage. neil: there have to be substantial numbers. inflation stops when people stop paying high prices. we hear craft and mcdonald's, variable to pass along price increases and customers are paying them. it comes a point where someone says stop. they hit 50 bucks but until then, might be okay with it. where do you see the consumer
in this, they will decide how this goes. >> these things to self regulate when people want to pay more. that is not occurring. on the top end you have appreciating asset prices keeping people wealthy enough so they keep up with inflation and on the bottom you have a lot of stimulus working its way through the system so there will be a breaking point where people are not willing to pay. this is compounded by a lot of issues, the labor market is an issue, they were pre-pandemic that have not been recovered, a number of people needing jobs because they had covid realization, the mandate is exacerbating that. it is exacerbating a lot of it. a number of things occurring all at once. the biden administration is
trying to find containers for staying in the port too long but the thing is you can't make huge changes all at once. getting back to a semblance of normalcy, weight on the vaccine mandates until after christmas. try to incentivize, order things early, labor shortages, a restaurant in michigan, i ordered my iphone 13, not coming until thanksgiving. but more importantly i am happy to see you back, healthy and happy. neil: i stew pick your brains on this of the rich paying their fair share. we got a new number attached to that close to 50% on the federal level.
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neil: you probably know this guy. he has gotten a lot of attention. he turned lopsided race in favor of the former democratic governor into a real contest and is leading. glenn youngkin you know. you might not be as fiddly with what is happening the garden state, the surge of jack ciattarelli, republican candidate for governor going against a guy who a few months ago trailed close to 30 points.
depending on the goal he has never that to as little as 6 points and among independents, he is the one with the lead right now. we reached out to the governor as we always do, he didn't return our calls, jack ciattarelli did and joins us now. good to have you. is getting close, down to the wire, how are you feeling? >> feeling real good. the energy has been great up and down the state. around the 7 well attended. we are need to be to carve out a win on election day. republicans have done it 6 of the last 10 times in new jersey and we will do it again. neil: i was looking at this, a footnote on new jersey, it is overwhelmingly. but democratic governors had a devil of a time getting reelected. you have to go back to 1977. when it comes to the likes of john corzine it doesn't happen. why is that? >> these guys once elected go
too far left and phil murphy is more extreme. new jersey a fiscally conservative socially moderate state and the majority, quote, party of new jersey, the independent voters that been right and dictate the outcome of statewide elections. president biden and phil murphy are underwater with unaffiliated independent voters. neil: if you were to pull off and upset, you have been saying your own tracking surveys show great momentum but the general polls have you behind a bit. what are your numbers gleaning that we don't see in the more traditional polls. >> when we look at internal polls in both camps particularly among unaffiliated independents we see a dead heat. we are where we need to be.
when a republican governors has won election when did they win? in the last week of the election. this is no different. i'm confident in the performance of my team and the message. we will do what we have done the last few months and we will win on election day. neil: you have been head to head and debates with governor murphy, he seems to like to attach donald trump to your name. it worked for democrats in california in the gavin newsom recall election, similar in virginia, doesn't appear to be working but polls could be wrong. how would you answer that? a fine line to walk but how do you answer that? >> new jersey and aren't foolish. they know every time phil murphy wants to talk about donald trump or blame chris christie or blame climate
change for his failures on tropical storm ida it a distraction from his failed record. he has failed new jersey. we lead the nation in nursing home deaths to take home covid 19 patients. we have the highest property taxes in the nation. we are considered the worst state in the country in which to do business. he has ruined the labor markets, one of the highest unemployment rates in the nation but everywhere you go there is a help wanted sign in the store window of mom and pop shops. we talk about those failures and lowering property taxes and make new jersey a better place to do business. neil: when governor murphy says taxes are your big issue, you shouldn't be in new jersey what do you think? >> he poked a finger in the eye of new jersey into the most overtaxed people in the nation. nobody pays more taxes than new jersey and and he said it, taxes are your issue, probably not your state. he wanted to make new jersey the california of the east coast and when he took away our right to assemble a to run our businesses and the right to worship on the station, he said
the bill of rights was above his pay grade. neil: we are watching closely. jack ciattarelli, you have a busy next couple days. we put out multiple and i need multiple calls to the governor. we simply haven't heard back. it is your call, governor but you're missing a great time. more after this. this is yours. thanks, dad. -there's more to it. find the perfect present at the one place that has all that you need. ♪ ♪
neil: don't know if you have downloaded this apps but it is wild. you don't have to be an astronaut to be into it, the space x falcon 9 repent to launch this weekend, they are putting it off until november 3rd. the weather is the issue, wind and other things, they want to be extra cautious. four astronauts preparing to go to the international space station is elon musk continues his dominating role in space. welcome to you. you guys and what you are doing is amazing but talk about a debut where you have a nor'easter the opening week and
a launch that is scrubbed because of mother nature. i'm sure this is coincidental but it made your job busier. what made the issue with the launch? >> reporter: it has been a chaotic week to say the least. the concern for nasa was a powerful low pressure system over the ohio valley, meandering there, sending some strong winds toward the eastern us which nasa has been monitoring for several days and last night they decided it was a no go for the lunch, just too unsafe to send the rocket up. a couple different factors they need to consider. with the launch of this magnitude, they have four astronauts on this to reach velocities of -- the long-duration stay.
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>> neil, that's the big news in rome, all leaders in town agreed to support raising the global minimum tax on corporations from 0% right now to 15% within the next couple years and a senior biden administration official was telling us this afternoon the leaders all came out in support of a global minimum tax and the president emphasized the importance of this historic deal during his invention. the countries represent 80% of the gdp. and argued whether they pay a fair share no matter where they're lohe-- located off shore, and they see this much bigger than a run-of-the-mill tax agreement. but the president can't just create new taxes when he wants to and he cannot expect a rubber stamp from the people who have that ability back home. rick scott, the republican senator from florida plans to
object, writing the u.s. congress must pass legislation to change u.s. law. further, in order to enter in or amend a bilateral or tax treaty, the biden administration must receive approval with a two-thirds majority vote of approval in the u.s. senate. so, all this means, that president biden's plan to pay for progressive priorities back home with new taxes there are on hold so he is taking his revenue-raising ideas for new taxes to multiple continents. neil. neil: man, that's gone global. gone viral. all right, peter doocy, thank you very very much, a beautiful back drop in rome. the push that the administration has to get this spending bill done and try to get the moderates and progressives on the same page. only the only thing he's
succeeded at is ticking off both sides. >> i think there's the trust by the bipartisan coalition that supported the package. there were two votes, and then fused together and now they are again. neil: could you explain that to me, senator. i was talking to a producer and that -- have they indeed been put back together? that would negate the need to vote on an infrastructure-only package today. i would imagine that democrats would have a problem with that as well? >> the progressives said they're not willing to move forward unless it's all in one and discussing the last several days whether or not having an a little now with the promise in the future is fusing those two together and some in the democratic party say you have to have both of those votes together, which means the consensus for one is a pre-requisite for the first
vote. so in my opinion and frankly those shared by most people on bot sides of the aisle, that's bringing the two back together. the lack of confidence ap transparency of in this process should be concerning to every single american. an infrastructure package that spends less than 10% of the overall resources on roads and bridges over the next five years should be concerning. we're back to the days where you have to pass the legislation to know what's in it. that's bad news for every single american and it feels like the great american shakedown, especially as we move into the larger, more problematic package. neil: you know what's interesting on it, senator, and you know those details far better than i, the president is a saying the economists say it's paid for, but how does it know that? it's din than what was talked about, a, it's after price and
it's different than anything before and we don't know what the final package is, where is he getting that information? >> out of thin air. there's no way in the world you can call this package paid for, not only paid for, but he says it costs nothing. so costing nothing and being paid for means taking more money out of the pockets of working americans. on top of the already negative impacts of inflation for many americans well below $400,000, their gas prices have gone from a buck 99 in december to 3.23 when i filled up in charleston just this past monday. so on top of that we will see a 1.75 trillion dollar package that's paid for by higher taxes. neil: all right. south carolina republican senator tim scott. by the way, we have been showing you these boards, we
call those full screens, they look very, very busy and very involved and we apologize, you know, with the detail of it. they're on our website and you can read all of these details, but i want to cut to the chase here to say that they are going to be spending something like this, right, and the revenues, the taxes looking at something like this. so it isn't spent, it's fall half a trillion shy of the money they need from a wharton school survey. and that in and of itself, the tax increases in there are targeted to the very wealthy, and, well, corporations. it's a changing definition all the time in this package and even as they come up with the framework and a very different take on if you raise the top right now to close to 50%, it begs the question, are the rich finally paying their fair
share? which is a popular point among progressives and moderate democrats. if you doubt me, hear them. >> all i'm asking is pay your fair share. pay your fair share. pay your fair share. >> pay their fair share. >> pay their fair share. >> pay their fair share. >> pay your fair share. >> here is the problem, even if you allow for the fair share, it doesn't come close to paying for this. and the fair share is a constantly moving target. it used to be when we'd get the top rate back up to 39.6%, that would be fair share. i can't keep whispering like this because it hurts my voice. kidding here just to make the point. what is fair share? you know, because it is a
moving target and no matter how high that goes, it keeps going still higher and the rich still have to fork out more. back with dan and jonas max ferris. dan, and not to play games with the numbers here, but to point out something, say what you will of the rich you know, when the top 1% are paying close to 40% of the taxes and the top 5% are paying close to 60% of the taxes and you still have an unusual situation in this country where half aren't paying any federal income taxes. now, that might be a holdover from the pandemic, but in the 1950's the most we saw that get to was 20% not paying. not everyone is, forget paying a fair share, not any share. so, i always think, like, sort of targeting the wealthy, whatever you think of them, sometimes isn't very fair at all. what do you think? >> i think that the talking point-- >> no, you have to whisper your response, dan. you must whisper.
kidding. [laughter] >> , [whispering] the talking points of the democrats are all wrong. neil, they're trying to vilify people who are successful saying they don't want to pay more and it's at your expense, but you bring up a great point. no one is saying, you know what? part of the problem besides the government spends way too much because they get more of their fair share tax collected is that half the people in this country pay no income tax. why should you have 5% of the people paying 60%, half paying nothing. the math is out of whack, it's just politics here to vilify a certain group of people so that people jump on board. bottom line, neil, and you're pointing it out. the government spends way too much, far beyond what they collect. neil: you know, jonas, the worry going forward, that's not
sustainable. i think that everyone should have skin in the game and i'm not saying everyone pays at that top rate, but even should paying is. because then you're more cognizant how much they're spending, it's sort of like if i go out and dan is treating, i'm going to order two appetizers, a couple of bottles of wine. if i know i'm going to have to foot some of the bill i might try the twist off cap thunderbird and leave it at that. i think that's the danger, we get so used to the notion of so much coming to us from the government, as long as we aren't the ones who have to pay for it. that's the worry i have because this is going forward on steroids. >> and they've made it less deductible business lunch expenses so this thing you're going to do to dan is very horrible so they're making them pay their fair share. neil: takeout, you're right. >> neil, there's so much wrong here. the bottom line, i mean, good thing i'm not running for office anytime soon, is that
the middle class are wildly undertaxed in america relative to the wealthy people and the middle class in europe and this is where the democratic kind of lie with the tax policy falls apart. to get the goodies, the social programs of the scandanavian country pay akin to the wealthy people. if you go to the countries, they kick in at 70, 80,000. and we have single digit tax rates under a middle class tax range and the other way they do it through a very high consumption tax, a vat tax, effectively 25% tax on all goods and services, highly paid by and that's how you pay for the social programs, to deny that as a democrat is to ignore how it works. it can work if you can handle high unemployment and low gdp
growth. a country like germany has budget deficits before covid, and we were not with the soak the rip ap pay for the spending that we havement and to do it right would require raising taxes on consumers and middle class people, but the politicians on both sides of mostly democrats, do not want to scare off voters with a proposal, so they're trying to figure out a way to hit 1 or 2% already highly tax to pay for it all. specifically you want the 15% corporate tax thing, you know, corporate taxes are pretty low in europe, believe it or not. we can't go higher than them or the companies who have the easiest time evading taxes will move to the countries. there are a few countries that people try to run profits through and most corporate taxes are paid in europe. even though the level is low in the 20's, they collect it.
in america, we were only collecting like a third relative to gdp of what they do in europe. somehow companies like amazon do, legally through the tax code, it's not cheating, get their rates lower so we should in some ways come up with a global standard, but to go higher than that is only going to ruin business in america. >> well, they're going to be at 15%. we'll see how that slides as soon as 2023. dan, harken back to your accountant training and wharton crunched the numbers available to them. they come up a half a trillion of paying for this, the idea that it's know the adding to the debt is wrong. they've got to correct that or just sluff it off. >> the comment is completely disingenuous to say that it's paid for or free or doesn't have any cost. again, all that is is trying to garner votes. and now what i think is going
to happen here, neil, if all of these tax increases are going to go through, and this is what i see all the time in our accounting practices, we're doing tax strategies. the federal tax going up, let's say for individuals hitting 50%, and you're kind of trapped in that, well, what's going to happen people are going to migrate because now the state income taxes become really, really important. before you were talking to jack ciattarelli running for governor in new jersey, and he's talking the taxes are highest in the country. neil: money can move, and i'm jumping on you and being rude. thank you both very much. in a word, [whispering] more after this. fore. i've never woken up like this before. crafted with clinically studied
terry mccauliffe is going to be busy on this hour crisscrossing the state as will his republican opponent. we've got both campaigns covered right now. and first to alexander huff in virginia dealing with the youngkin campaign and how are you there? >> it feels like good old-fashioned campaigning here. and he says due to the latest poll numbers, he feels like his campaign is moving 75 down 95 and his opponent's 45. he says he's passing him right now and reason to think that according to the latest polls. let' take a look at the latest fox news polls. of likely voters in virginia he leads the democrat ib opponent.
"the washington post" poll one point behind mccauliffe within the margin of error. he's been making five stops a day since the bus tour started a week ago. a lot of people were enthusiastic getting out here. if you want to to take a look. they're signing the bus and the campaign tried to liken itself to a grass roots effort. there's a lot of money in the race, the most expensive in virginia history. the w point is to get out and meet people. we have a harvest festival going on and something where people feel very in line with the campaign, that they're friends of it and generally the notion that the republican here is trying to push forth. the polls are in his side right now and at this stage in any kind of election, you expect curve balls to happen, but something that happened yesterday in charlottesville whale we were -- while we were there something the youngkin called disturbing,
a stunt that is. there was a picture taken of five people carrying tiki torches, they were supposed to look like white supremacists from movement. and they accused them of being youngkin supporters. and they said they were not youngkin supporters and they indeed turned out not to be. that was a stunt put on. and the vibe out here is positive, exciting enthusiasm because of the new poll numbers. neil: do you know whether the mcauliffe campaign took back the charges that this was all, you know, orchestrated by the opponent. >> i haven't seen any, and that's where it started retweeting a photo from a local affiliate accusing the people in the photo of being supporters. there's a lot of questions right now, including, neil, if
those five people out there posing for that picture were paid, and if so, by who. neil: very interesting. all right, thank you very, very much. and now let's go to the mcauliffe campaign in virginia beach where we'll find our rich edson. >> good afternoon, neil. we're in a sports bar and there are wings and beer, but it's a college football campaign. a campaign event here where terry mcauliffe is appearing with local sports legend bruce smith, a nfl hall of famer. governor northam is here trying to get the vote out in this area of the state and he's been campaigning in virginia beach, norfolk, he'll head back up to richmond and try to go there and northern virginia in an effort to try to boost the vote totals. early voting has been going on for a while here. mcauliffe's attacks on youngkin are more aggressive trying to
paint him as an extremist. >> i'm young against the most homophobic and-- and i ran against ken cuccinelli. and last night it was vice-president kamala harris in southern virginia, headlining in norfolk. and mcauliffe maintains it's about local issues, this race has gone national with democrats trying to tie youngkin to former president donald trump who lost virginia by 10 percentage points and the vice-president acknowledging the national consequences of this race. >> it's a close election and it is a bellwether for what happens in the rest of the country. what happens in virginia will in large part determine what happens in 2022, 2024 and on.
>> now, over the closing days of this campaign he's got the national democrats continuing to campaign for him. senator tim kaine, the virginia senator will be campaigning along with barbara lee and jim cliburn. neil: thank you for that, rich edson. and following this closely as will fox 24/7 and even the big vote on tuesday. in the meantime, the debate having kids as young as five vaccinated. are you on? after this.
panel had more than 48 hours earlier. now the issue becomes who should get them and when. let's get the read from the missouri hospital ceo. doctor, very good to have you. how do you feel about this, doctor, whether parents should commit their kids to getting vaccinated? >> i'm really excited that the opportunity is there for younger children to get vaccinated, especially for those who may have other illnesses and things that put them at the highest of risks among that age group. overall that age group is a very low risk of course, and that's where the risk-benefit analysis comes into play. i'm hoping that the c.d.c. will give parents the flexibility and the encouragement to talk with their physicians and make sure that the risk-benefit analysis is comfortable to them, but overall, i'm really glad to see that this is now available for the younger children. >> so, doctor, in the beginning of the pandemic, there was not as much concern that children certainly would be affected by
the pandemic, let alone be carriers, and pass it along to others. has that since changed? >> it has, and the delta variant really put a new spin on the original thinking about how children are affected. many more children have been affected more seriously as well during the delta surge. and so we've seen hospitals not have room in the pediatric icu's, we've seen children, about 5,000 children have had the multi-system inflammatory syndrome which can be devastating not only for their heart, their kidneys and in some cases cause death and there have been 150 deaths reported so far. and parents do need to take the delta surge and whatever next surge is coming very, very seriously whether the vaccine is good for their children. neil: moderna is separately working for a vaccine for kids and i don't know where it stands in the approval.
it's come up with a one stop shot, if you will, to deal with the common flu and covid. what do you think of that? is that the way we're going to go with covid in the future, either an annual shot or something like that to address, ach much as you would, the common flu and other ailments? >> we will be trending after some of the hysteria of the covid vaccinations and more and more safety data comes out and people are comfortable with it as we have with so many other vaccines, i think we'll see a time when these combined vaccines are two separate jabs at the same time, will be more acceptable and really sort of the mainstream. i'm looking for the day when the next variant appropriate booster comes out so that those who maybe have been hesitant after having the disease because they have natural immunity or having had an earlier form of the vaccine will be eligible for something
more appropriate to the ever more mutating strains of the virus and that will be an exciting day, between influenza and covid, i think these are going to be endemic, a continuous threat in varying degrees to varying populations and eventually we'll be able to have not only a personal defense against whatever virus we face, but a consensus defense, a unified front against the virus. neil: you know, i didn't expect to become part of an international debate here when i disclosed that i had tested positive for covid, still testing positive for covid. but my strong belief was everyone get vaccinated. i later found out even though fully vaccinated, i'm part of that group of, you know, immuno compromised individuals that now make up half the breakthrough cases and my only wish passing along to those who are concerned about getting vaccinated, to do so. i didn't want to weigh into the mandate and all that.
a lot of people say it's prove that the vaccine didn't work for you, look at colin powell, he's dead now, didn't work for him even though there were extenuating circumstances, he was 84 years old. dealing with a serious cancer. but there are a lot of people from whom i've heard who are use using this as a reminder it's not worth it, getting vaccinated is not worth it. what do you tell them? >> neil, i would use your example as the prime example in fact why people should think about this in the other way. yours is a perfect example of had you not been vaccinated and had you contracted the virus, you've been transparent about your underlying susceptibles ties, and had you not been vaccinated, we'd not be talking to you, you'd still in be an icu. that's speculation, but i think
of vaccines as a motorcycle helmet or maybe a flak jacket, a vest that a law enforcement officer or a military member may wear. it doesn't mean you're not going to guarantee you're not going to get shot and killed, but certainly reduces the risk of death or severe injury should they get shot or in a motorcycle crash. neil: i hear you. >> what the vaccine did for you, having educated your system to the virus, when you encountered it, it was armed and ready to go and then it pulled the trigger, much more quickly than had you not been unvaccinated. and i think that's really the message people need to hear. it's not meant to guarantee you from infection, but if you do, you're going to avoid in the vast majority of cases avoid landing in an icu or in a casket. neil: well, i'm talking to you now, doctor, what you say is clearly, you know, it's true. it's the fact that i am alive and well that frustrates, i
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migrants moving slowly through mexico still a few weeks away and giving texas and authorities here to prepare a defense to see what it's going to look like. we saw the texas national guard hum-vees. they're allowed to carry live rounds to deploy deterrents and the immigrants while on private property. since march when operation lonestar was launched, military and dps made a combined 150,000 apprehensions. in kinney county alone 1200 arrests led to trespass charges and jail time in the state prison in dilley, texas. >> there's a concern that they're staying in jail longer than they should, but once we get the, you know, the complaints filed against them within 30 days, it's a process, you have to go through the arraignment processes and if
they plead guilty or not guilty then you go to the trial. >> the dilley prison was cleared out of state prisoners to free up 1,000 beds for my migrants facing local charges, and many ranchers are happening pause because they've been dealing with crime for decades. and one rancher is afraid of retribution from the cartels that are profiting right now. >> i'm scared to death that if i say governor, i want to press charges and i arrest these people. i'm the bad guy. it's not my place to be the bad guy. if our president would do his job and protect our country. >> and late yesterday, the biden administration further angered conservatives here along the border in texas. the did. dhs announced a second attempt
to overthrow the remain in mexico ordered by a court to remain in place, but the biden administration launched a second attempt to have that thrown out and in the meantime, moving forward with complying the court order and having it ready to go in mid november if they need to. neil. neil: all right, dan springer, thanks for that. another out of the administration, the doj plan to pay families separated at the border up to 4 to $25,000 each. the fact that the administration has not responded to this leads me to believe that maybe it's actually going to happen, as incredible as that seems. the acting u.s. attorney general, at first, matt, when i heard this, i thought, no, that's too crazy and i can't imagine the administration wouldn't waste a nano second correcting it. best of my knowledge, it has not. so this is apparently real, so what do you make of this?
>> yeah, good morning, neil. glad to be with you, what i make of it is a huge mistake. the biden administration appears to be willing to doubledown on all the things that are not working, all the bad policies that they've implementing, not returning to the good policies we had in the trump administration, but you know, this settlement, if allowed or if agreed to by the federal government, i think is just completely outrageous, you're going to give $450,000 not only to a child that was subject to this policy, but also a parent, and so you could see a family get over a million dollars ultimately and that's just, that's not fair when you look at like people that have sacrificed for our country in foreign wars only get about $400,000 and it's outrageous, and i think the american people are fed up with these types of policies. neil: you know, whether the means by which people were separated at the border, what they were doing were illegal. it was an illegal act and we're
rewarding an illegal act here, and i'm sure these payments, if they come to pass, will incentivize others to do the exact same thing. >> yeah, we have so many magnets now under this administration that are drawing people to our southern border. whether it's, you know, not following the remain in mexico policy anymore, whether it's allowing, you know, frivolous asylum claims to be filed and then last for years, whether it's giving green cards to people after six months of a pending asylum claim, there are so many policies just attracting people to our border and this settlement, you know, again, once you play the telephone game, the suggestion is probably going to be that, you know, every illegal immigrant is getting a paycheck and i just think the american people just cannot let this happen and we need to make our voices heard and make sure that, you know, we exercise our constitutional rights of telling government that these types of things should not
happen. neil: all right. we'll watch it closely, you're mentioning telephone because we're having a devil after time getting an official administration position on this, the facts it's not disputed or challenge tells me they're rolling along with it, we'll keep everyone posted on that. thank you again. in the meantime, something less controversial, the world series game four on tonight. the latest. >> ♪ talk me out to the ball game ♪ ♪ take me out with the crowd ♪ ♪ buy me some peanuts and crackerjack ♪ ♪ i don't care if i ever get back ♪ ♪ let me root, root, root for the home team ♪ ♪ if they don't win it's a shame ♪ ♪ for it's one, two, three strikes you're out ♪ it departs... being first on the scene when every second
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atlanta. charles watson is there. charles, i keep thinking that the world series is being played right now in atlanta and that of course, was shelved for the all-star game and it's a 180 and a whole new world. they're excited for the big game tonight? >> certainly a 180, you can see tons of fans out here early in the battery preparing for game four of the world series tonight at truist park. the atlanta braves will host the second world series game to be played here in some 22 years. last night game three was the first, it was a big night for the braves who got those bats swinging just enough to pull out a win against the houston astros and go up 2-1 in this series, but you know, no one may be more thrilled than this than republicans, especially georgia republicans, who still have some feelings over the mlb's decision to pull the all-star game from georgia after the state passed new voting laws that were called restrictive and unnecessary.
ironically, both democrats and republicans opposed the all-star boycott. here is what georgia governor brian kemp had to say on fox and friends this week. >> it's really ridiculous to inject politics into sports and baseball, but that's what they did and then they moved it to a state, colorado, they lied about the elections integrity act and said it's suppressive, it's jim crow 2.0. it's not. >> and neil, if there is one thing for sure, there is plenty of money to be made out here. accord to go one economist we spoke to, these three games of the world series are expected to bring millions of dollars right into the pockets of local business owners listen. >> i was estimating something around 10 million dollars per game, so it's going to be a $30 million take for the weekend. >> and now some big names to expect tonight, former president trump is expected to
watch the game live here from truist park. of course, with all of these pumped up braves fans, it's going to be a good show, hopefully the braves pull out a win, at least that's what the folks in atlanta are hoping. neil: a-ha, i thought you tipped your hand there, young man. [laughter] >> charles watson, thank you very much. two more wins in atlanta would do that. charles, thank you again. but you know, we're also at halloween weekend and a lot of people are planning parties. a lot of things have gone up in price and we've got my buddy back, that's right, chef rob planning to party not on the cheap, but cheaper. ♪♪ ♪♪ rfect. no, you know what, a few more.
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>> and that was my response, and kaitlin got her braces on today and we're putting together-- . how are you doing, honey? >> putting together the halloween party right now. neil: all right. how do you do it? what do you do because you have to, you know, juggle a little bit here because some things have gotten off the charts expensive. >> everything has gotten expensive and only invite the people you want over. don't overinvite the people. there really is, we stayed away from a lot of the rise in beef prices and what i did i made a haunted house out of three different rice crispies, a rice crispy treat haunted house and my girls are molding. we're doing an oreo, or calling them oreo surprises. so they've got oreos and cream
cheese and you mix them together and form whatever you want. these girls are making some haunted house here and we've got cupcake here. so we use cherry filling for the cupcakes and they're oozing out. and oozy cherry surprise. i believe that kelloggs is going to give me some sort of endorsement and some of these as wellments there you go, it doesn't sound adkins and low carb friendly, that's a calculated risk, right? >> and right now, it's -- (inaudible) >> all right, we're having some audio difficulty with you. you talk about limiting the size of a party, but some people go big for their halloween parties and combine it with a night of trick-or-treating and all of that. how do you advise people who are planning parties, now, aur obviously focusing on the sweet
stuff, but a lot of people throw a lot into it and confuses people. you want to keep it simple, right? >> it's kind of hard not to, and you know, look at the bottom line and what you buy, don't overspend or overextend yourself. if you're going to have a party, you've got to have people you want to come over, it's not how much you spend, but what kind of quality time. and when you have cheap labor it's a lot easier. when were you a kid, were you always a good cook and food and how you can combine stuff? were you like one of these you see on the chopped shows and all where at eight or nine, they're like culinary geniuses? you were one of these kids? >> this is hard work. [laughter] >> my mom and my grand ma, my family, a line of italians, amazing cooks. we're close as a family, as a family growing up, getting it
to the family and a lot of recipes, and a lot in my food truck and we do a lot of stuff. but i always, always enjoyed cooking and you know, it's like vis-a-vis italians are always getting family together. neil: my italian relatives are the same thing. none of it passed on like for you. the girls, they're going to be like on a chicago high my late tomorrow-- they will be on a sugar high, and are you okay with that? >> and i'm going to be at work and leave the girls. >> that's very, very risky, girls, you're excited about this and ready to trick-or-treat tomorrow? >> yes. >> that's their favorite day of the year. neil: all right. better at home, girls. you have far better stuff at home. forget about knocking on doors. i hope you all have a great, great halloween. you have a great dad, girls, and fact of matter always
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>> election showdown in virginia, our latest fox news poll showing republican candidate glenn youngkin eight points ahead of terry mcauliffe in a governor's race that could be a bellwether for next year. i'm griff jenkins. anita: i'm anita vogel. they're complaining as election day is drawing near. we have fox team