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kyran hooper. mom and baby are happy and healthy. he's nine points. congratulations. so cute. little kyran is not so little. thrilled for them and wish them a loot of happiness and rest for momma. that's "the story." see you back here tomorrow. >> neil: intense fighting in kharkiv today. russian tanks continue to pound mariupol and this ramping up of russian attacks that knows no bounds. we'll be speaking with john kirby on how far this goes and what we're learning about the effectiveness of the ukraine response. we're getting word that ukrainians are making life difficult for russian soldiers having now capture towns north
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of kharkiv. this is neil cavuto and "your world." trying to make sense of fast developments that seem to favor the ukrainians yet again. word that they're not only capturing land but making life extremely difficult for russian land controlled by russian soldiers so we thought. let's get the read from greg palkot in kyiv with more. greg? >> hi, neil. yeah. the war rages on. there's a practical and symbolic return of american diplomats to this capitol city. first, the war. new russian middle strikes to the south of in the important port city of odesa and reportedly not confirmed by hypersonic missiles. outside of car kiev, a have a civilian convey blasted by russians. but the ukrainians are taking villages around that important city and the ukrainian fighters are holding out in mariupol
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against tough battering by the russians. to this comes the american. staff and diplomats have arrived and prepare for a formal reopening of the embassy later this month. it's been shut since february. i asked how offensive u.s. military aid could get. take a listen. >> ukraine is in the right. we believe that ukraine should win this war and we want to make sure that russia not just stops their aggressive actions against ukraine but make sure that they don't take further aggressive actions in the region which we're concerned about. >> she had high praise for ukraine president zelensky and the soldiers putting up a great fight. she was scathing about the man targeting them all, russian president vladimir putin. here's more. >> i think it will be impossible to go back to business as usual. any future relationship we may
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be able to cobble together is going to be based on what president putin does. >> what does putin, neil, have to do to make amends according to the acting ambassador? stop the war crimes. get out of ukraine and act like a responsible war partner. we asked her about president biden when he might be making an important and symbolic visit here to kyiv. she says she's not ruling it out, but she's not saying when. back to you. >> neil: thanks, greg. with us right now, john kirby. john, as some of you might know, he's a retired admiral from the navy. that's why he is comfortable explaining military matters that go over my head. very good to have you. >> good to be with you, neil. >> neil: where do we stand on the russian attacks in kharkiv? suddenly we're told they have territory and then we're told they don't. now reports ukrainians are
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taking towns outside of kharkiv. where is this? >> yeah, kharkiv has been surrounded almost since the very early days of this war. the russians were never able to take it. the ukrainians have mounted a very stiff resistance in kharkiv. it's geographically very important to russia, particularly if they're trying to cut off the donbas. it's a big industry city, which is clearly placed to help them do that. what we're seeing is not only are the ukrainians continuing to resist any russian efforts and we do think the russians want to take it but they're pushing them back out. you're seeing this to the east of kharkiv, neil, where they're pushing the russians more a 20 miles back in the east of the donbas. the russians are losing ground and losing firepower and information around kharkiv. >> neil: maybe you can update me
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in mariupol. we're hearing that the ukraine death toll may be higher than the u.n. tally in large part to not knowing the details of what's going on in mariupol and how many might be trapped and/or dead there. >> yeah, look, obviously we don't want to see anybody hurt. we need to brace ourselves for the fact that the casualties will be higher and more severe than what we think right now. it's just difficult to know for sure. international aid organizations can't get on the ground and stay on the ground. they've been able to evacuate people but not stick around. the damage being done by mariupol even today is just devastating. you don't know who else is in the rubble. who else got killed in a collapsed building. so we need to prepare ourselves for more dreadful news. >> neil: that would include
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constant poundings in attacks in odesa, the port city. president zelensky is making sure that no aid gets in or people try to get out. any updates on that? >> what we're seeing on odesa is sporadic strikes. it's not clear what the russians are up to on what they're targeting. we don't have a good sense. there's not been a lot of air strikes in to odesa. there's no threat right now presented by russian ground forces. they can't get much out of the town of kherson. so they're not posing a threat to odesa. the coast is still blockaded by russian ships. so odesa doesn't have trade. we're not sure why they have the air strikes. there's not an imminent invasion but the russians are trying to isolate odesa and trying to pin
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down force there's. >> neil: have you gotten any evidence that it's more difficult to get military supplies to say nothing of humanitarian supplies in there? >> no. the shipments continue to get into ukraine every day. they're largely ground routes and they change every day. as far as we can see, that flow continues pretty much unabated. >> neil: we're learning the russians won't attend the u.n. human rights council meeting slated for thursday. a russian spokesman said that this is simply not a legitimate moment or legitimate effort. that the russian delegation will not legitimize what the russians call a presence to show the twisted nature of this bias. an extraordinary session of which we will have no part. what did you make of that? >> that's consistent russian
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bluster and denial. what is not legitimate is the way they're killing civilians and the war crimes being conducted by russian soldiers. that's not legitimate. there's no surprise that the russians don't want to show up at an institution and organization and committee charged with helping presufficiency i'll have -- civil rights. >> neil: there's been a back and forth among top intelligence officials including several today in washington where u.s. intelligence was questioned not only here in ukraine but going back to what was going on in syria where we believe that the u.s.-backed government would hold out for months and didn't. we had similar expectations that the russians would have an easy victory in ukraine and didn't. is there something wrong with our military intelligence that
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it misses the mark? >> i've been around the military intelligence for my entire adult life. i can tell you, it's never perfect. it's a mosaic. you do the best you can with the information that you can collect. put it together, try to analyze it. sometimes you're closer to the mark than others. with respect to ukraine, the united states would literally lead the world in making it clear that what we saw russian do since the fall in terms of amassing forces and their attention to go to ukraine and we said it loud and clear from here at the podium and all over town and international capitals and particularly in europe and not everybody believed us. we were right about what russia was about to do. we also worked hard in the lead up to the invasion. you and i talked about this, we declassified the intelligence and made that public to try to get ahead of mr. putin's false flag operations. it's never perfect. there's a lot of effort going into it and we're doing the best we can.
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i think with respect to ukraine, the intelligence community is more right than they were wrong. >> neil: senator angus king of maine had said on that very subject, i realize the will to fight is a lot harder to assess from tanks, but i hope the intelligence community is doing soul searching. it's easy to plan monday morning quarterback on this. especially on my part here. i do wonder looking back at that and knowing what you know now whether a lot of this weaponry should have been and could have been in ukraine's hands months ago. >> there will come a day when we will want to take some lessons learned here and look back and see what might have been done differently. i would remind a couple of things. one, the biden administration was flowing in weapons well before the invasion. the first billion dollars that the president committed to ukraine did include lethal
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assistance and that was before putin decided to move in. plus, we were open and honest about what we were seeing the russians do. the last point which we don't keep in mind as much as we should, the training and effort that went into getting the ukrainians ready for this kind of war over the last eight years. the united states, canada, britain, other allies really helped train the ukrainians in small unit leadership, command and control, operational maneuver, the kinds of things you're seeing them do now. it's not about the weapons. it's the skills and the leadership that they're exerting on the battlefield. they have transformed from a soviet era, to top down, rigid military to one that is more western. that wasn't an accident. that is the work that so many united states and allieses did over the years. >> neil: president zelensky
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warned of the threat over the global food supply, that the russians are trying to block it from getting out of ukraine. i'm wondering if the russians deliberately are trying to starve ukraine and then by extension maybe all of continental europe by blocking that food supply. would that warrant a nato response? >> i won't get ahead of nato or what the alliance would to. remember, the alliance is a defensive alliance. article 5 is triggered when there's an aarmed attack against the alliance. it's not clear to me that a food shortage or the economic flow being stopped would trigger that. i won't speak for the alliance. i think president zelensky makes an important point. it's not just the warfare that is being waged inside and the violence being waged against the ukrainian people. he is trying to strangle the country. he's blockaded the black coast.
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nothing can get in. he's trying to limit ukrainian's ability to trade with the world. which will not only have an economic impact in ukraine but with their partners internationally. >> neil: thanks, john. good seeing you. let's take a look at the corner of wall and broad. we look at these final figures as dull. we traded 1,000 point range today. up better than 500 points. the dow down 500 pounds, finally down 85 points. doing little to calm nerves. now there's a battle between not only inflation but how the higher prices will slow things down in the overall economy, which is why you saw oil prices drop to under $100 a barrel and yields climb down on the bond market where all of the thinking seems to be this will slow everything down. ten-year note, attached to a lot of popular mortgages and car
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loans now back under 3%. these guys are confused to pulled it mildly. the record high gas prices you're seeing, they have never been higher. they'll have an impact, too. if you think they stop here, madison alworth in east rutherford, new jersey, you have another thing coming. >> i spoke to drivers here today at this gas station if it's going to change their travel plans. also got more about what this means for the overall driving economy for the summer. i'll tell you about that coming up.
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>> neil: i didn't know jackson brown was previewing the sky high movement in gas prices. right now, for next that can't afford it, there's signs that even with today's official record hike in prices right now, all-time highs in nominal terms, it could get worse. maybe a lot worst to madison alworth in new jersey with more. >> hi, neil. we're paying more for gas than we ever have in the history of this nation. americans really feeling it because of these high gas prices. its impacting how much they travel and how much they spend. we're now paying $4.37 on average. it is particularly shocking when you compare to it the price of gas from just a year ago. some states have it worse than others. three states are paying over $5 a gallon.
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that's california, hawaii and nevada. here in new jersey, it's only slightly better with an average price of $4.47 a gallon. the drivers i spoke to say that they feel stuck. >> already committed to certain things and that's why this is a big shock. i've committed to my kids, to work, to things that i have to do. so there's no choice but to pay this price. >> every now and again, you need a change of scenery, take the kids out, take the family out. we can't do that it's costing us just to get to somewhere. i haven't sat down to eat and i'm $65 in the hole. >> so neil, the biden administration is considering a federal gas tax holiday that could come as good news for these americans. right now people are feeling stuck. it's hard to pay to get to work let alone to go on a vacation, which after two years being locked up many are playing on
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doing. we'll see if this impacts summer travel. it could. >> neil: thanks, madison to kevin hassett, the worker white house economic adviser and counsel to the president of the united states, jerry baker, "wall street journal" at least with jerry baker. a very popular show here. jerry, let's start with you. get your sense about how this run up in prices would be slowing things down as we speak. one of the reasons why yields might have been coming down today. i'm wondering if we're at that spot or are we overinterpreting it? >> well, it's a complex picture as you heard. gas prices are rising sharply. a lot of gas rises unfortunately in the pipeline, if you'll forgive the pun. we'll get the cpi numbers tomorrow. most economists expect that to be down a little bit from the high of 8.5 that we had in much. maybe down in to the low eights.
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even that's not guaranteed. what is certain, neil, is that we're stuck with very high inflation, whether it's in the 7s or 8s. the federal reserve is way behind the curve in raising interest rates. of course the problem is the faster they raise rates, the bigger hit it has on people's pockets as well. so people are going to get hit here with a double whammy of inflation, inflation rising and interest rates will slow the economy down, too. it's a bleak picture. you don't want to make people miserable but it's not a very happy picture. the reason you're seeing a back off in interest rates today, more and more people are -- the markets and the sell off in the equity markets, people are starting to think a recession is an increasing likelihood. >> neil: what do you think, kevin? is a recession come something.
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>> i think we're in a recession right now. one of the things that i think history has taught us, if you go back and look, there's a regular pattern when you disrupt global oil markets with the shoeing of the suez canal or the iraq war, a study once said that when there was a disruption in global oil markets. we're seeing that right now. if you get a negative quarter for q 1 and q 2, we're in a recession. five years from now and we see oil was disrupted like it was with war in the middle east in the past and we had a recession, people will say of course we did. right now it's wishful thinking to think we won't. >> neil: if that were the case and the markets have been been here and there, you know, we've had a big hit and didn't follow it up with a big comeback, it's
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like a market can't get conviction because maybe you pointed out they just don't know what is next. they're selling in to that. you expect that to continue? >> yeah, i do. if you look at the broader market indexes, neil, we've seen a lot of people focus on the dow jones and the s&p 500. they're in correction territory. if you look at the broader markets, the russell 2,000, the mid cap stocks, it's off like 25 plus percentage points from the high last year. technology stocks have been hammered. we've had this increase in yields, ten-year treasury yields. that's up from two years ago up 250 basis points. that kind of move in interest rates is obviously affecting stock prices. that's why we're starting to see the stock markets really fall out of bed.
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also it's very strongly indicative as kevin says, the economy is getting hit and the investors are getting increasingly nervous about whether or not as kevin says a recession is here or certainly whether this hit is so great that we're going to see a turn around in the economy after this expansion from the debts of the covid recession that we're starting to see the economy declining again. >> martha: >> neil: kevin, the president said deficits are going down under his watch. he didn't do the obvious comparison that we're spending and throwing trillions at covid. he said that is a start of something big. what do you say? >> right. well, recall that that happened because congress decided not to pass his build back better plan, which was -- when you score it, going to add like $4 trillion to the deficit. he has to find something good to crow about. i don't blame him.
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he's got to talk about a bad economy. it's rough. outith a plan to talk about what he's going to do about inflation. he focused on inflation. i didn't see any ideas or newsworthy thoughts about what to do about it. what they need to do is help the fed. okay, if the fed does this by itself, they have to left interest rates three, four, 5% to get this inflation under control. if congress were to do something to stimulate supply so there's more supply chasing demand, there's a hope that we could have the soft landing that some people are talking about. the fact is that if you want to see somebody that is speaking frankly and accurately about the economy right now, then you should look at the bank of england. the people watching should google it. the bank of england has said we'll lift interest rates so much that we'll have a deep recession this year. that's what any truthful central banker would say. >> neil: if you're only relying on the central bank, that's the
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contrast between his economic plan and one that he says has been proposed by republicans. >> they don't want to solve inflation by lowering your costs. they want to raise your taxes and lowering your income. >> the trouble there is that republicans have not put forth a plan. he was referred to an individual tax proposal by senate eric scott. according to "the washington post," as far as we can tell, not a single other republican in congress has embraced scott's specific tax proposal. the post gave the administration that the republicans were trying to raise taxing three pinocchios. the majority of republicans were behind a plan to raise taxes. here's jen psaki with more. >> it's either this put together by the person who is leading the effort to win back the senate or nothing. the president this morning talked about what his plan is. if they have an alternative
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plan, we would welcome them putting it forward. >> mitch mcconnell said the party will not propose a plan that raises taxes. he today said this about the president's economic performance. >> this democratic government has managed a unique kind of economic turn around. they took and economy that was ready to soar, turned it around and drove it in to the ground. >> the president today was asked about if he feels responsibility for inflation. he said that he believes his policies are helping and not hurting. neil? >> thanks, alexandra. to john thune right now, the senate minority whip key player. south dakota senator. good to have you. >> thanks, neil. good to be with you. >> neil: on this rick scott proposal, that's what the president was going after today. we understand this view that not all republican senators support
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it but we know that ronna mcdaniel, heads up the rnc, does like it. so do you know any of your colleagues that do? >> i think everybody who is running for re-election this year, neil, is going to come up with their message for their constituents, that resonates with the people that will vote in their states. any time you have somebody propose kind of a global plan, it's a different solution in different parts of the country. what i see happening is not people embracing any particular plan put out by somebody else but developing a campaign message built around the issues that speak to the things that people in their individual states care about. that's what i'm doing -- >> neil: but he's not any other senator. he's been raising money for republican senate candidates and he has this position is that is at odds with you, mitch
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mcconnell and the powers in the republican party. so is he giving ammunition to joe biden when he claims, the president, that republicans embrace raising taxes on half the population? >> again, i don't think that there are -- he made it very clear this is his plan. it's not a plan for other senators. >> neil: you don't support that, right? you don't support this effort right now where half of the people in this country aren't paying federal income taxes, but you would be opposed to as i think senator scott has said, senator, having everyone having some skin in the game? >> i'm not embracing that plan. i'm talking about, again, i have my own agenda for the people of south dakota. having said that, one of the things that is clear about, this president biden is flailing around, swinging blindly hoping something will land. his latest target is rick scott. but the truth is he can't defend
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his administration's report when it comes to the border, energy and inflation. there's so many things that are in crisis right now. so he's obviously trying to change the subject and distract away from the failed policies that he's put in place and which the american people are now reacting to and trying to blame somebody else. in this case, he's picked rick scott. the very simple fact of the matter is this is an administration whose policies have been an abject failure on so many levels. they're doing everything that they can to change the subject. >> martha: senator, when the president says i'm doing my part to do what republicans always say they want to do and this is, decrease the deficit and he's making the comparison of $5 trillion over two years that changed the math, so we're down from that. but that is his pitch. that if you want to get this under control, want to get inflation under control, i'm doing it by decreasing the size of these deficits.
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what do you say? >> well, look, i'm think what he has -- things he's talk about, for example, and he did get something. he got $2 trillion under the guise of covid relief. it was a massive spending bill that flooded the economy with dollars and created this inflationary spiral. their solution now is another $5 trillion in spending on top of that. it's the absolute opposite prescription for what we need right now. more than anything else, the american people are staying stop the madness and stop the out of control spending. do no more harm. his administration has no solution except to spends more. that's what democrats do. they grow more and spend more and try to raise taxes. all of which are part of his proposal to spend another $5 trillion. >> neil: so when he comes back at you to say republicans take over what they're going to do, they're going to go back to tax
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cuts for their wealthy friends. you say? >> look, i think the thing we need to do is make permanent a lot of the tax provisions in the 2017 law. that law is working. you're seeing more repatriations coming from international firms, dollars coming back in. you're seeing the capital gains tax reductions obviously are generating more revenue. it's having the desired effect. the economy was poised to expand and grow and obviously we had a pandemic, which we had to deal with. the tax policies were put in place not for the short term but for the long-term. what investors need is certainty. they need predictability. if we make those tax changes permanent, i think you will start to see the investment come off of the side lines. you need change in policies in other issues like energy where this administration, again, has completely shut down oil and gas production in this country. there's a lot of things that you can do that would get the energy producers off of the sidelines and back into the game.
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part of our agenda needs too be making permanent 2017 tax law. it's had the effect that we said it would. that sin crease additional investment. >> neil: senator john thune, thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> neil: the alabama prisoner and escaped inmade is all resolved. the tragedy from the sheriff who was overseeing it after this. trust safelite. in one easy appointment... ♪ pop rock music ♪ >> tech: ...we can replace your windshield and recalibrate your advanced safety system. >> dad: looks great. thanks. >> tech: stay safe with safelite. schedule now. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪
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>> neil: all right. escaped inmate and the corrections officer, the saga is over. one is alive, the other is dead. mike tobin has more from evansville, indiana. mike? >> casey white, neil, is here in jail waiting for lauderdale
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county detectives to take him back to alabama. the sheriff says the two were armed for a fight. four 9 millimeter handguns, one ar-15, even a taser. >> members of the u.s. task force basically rammed the vehicle and pushed it in to a ditch. we later found out had they not done that, the fugitive was going to engage in a shootout with law enforcement. >> now the couple still had $29,000 cash with them despite preparing two weeks after the motel 41. that is where authorities closed in on them. sparking the fight that ultimately ended with vicky white shooting herself. she died of those injuries. what is interesting is that despite this starting out as a jail house romance, the sheriff
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said casey white shows no remorse that casey is dead. back to you. >> neil: very sad. rick singleton is here with us, the sheriff for lauderdale county. a sad ending for vicky white that took her life. but i'm just wondering what precautions are in place now to make sure that something like this doesn't happen again. >> well, of course, we had policies in place. those policies were violated by vicky white. she took advantage of her position as assistant director of operations. she was the one that coordinated all transports out of the jail. she knew that friday morning was a very chaotic morning at the jail. inmates were in and out, being transported back and forth to court. she assured that before transport deputies that were at the jail were all at the courthouse when she had casey white brought out.
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so the policies, everything was in place. you know, we're going to reinforce those. but at the end of the day, when someone makes their mind up to do something, you don't know -- you can't read their mind. you don't know what they're thinking about doing. >> neil: i hear you. sir, meantime, do we know whether casey white had ever harmed her or ever threatened vicky white? >> not that we know of. early in the investigation, when we discovered them missing, that was a concern of ours, that he overpowered her somehow and took her. of course, then we found out that the evaluation, the court appearance she was supposedly carrying him to, there was none scheduled. woe realized this was an escape. we thought that maybe he had coerced her or threatened her or her family to get him out and no evidence. >> neil: sir, you had said we
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got a dangerous man off the streets and he will never see the light of dagen. that means additional charges will be filed. what has he said since getting back to jail? >> well, of course, he was in the jail in indiana. we have a transport team in route to pick him up. he's talked to him. what he told them, i don't know. >> neil: got it. sheriff, congratulations on resolving this. thanks. this saga has ended. meantime, here, something that is not ended, elon musk and apparently a flirtation with one donald trump to come back to twitter. the sooner the better. after this. this isn't just freight. these aren't just shipments. they're promises. promises of all shapes and sizes. each, with a time and a place they've been promised to be. a promise is everything to old dominion,
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>> neil: you know, with every passing day, we're getting more of an inkling of what we'll see elon musk do at twitter once he has the company. there's no guarantee he will get it, but he's giving a better idea of big changes. kelly o'grady has more out of california. kelly? >> hey, good to see you, neil. yeah, he's continuing to make
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headlines, this time with the future of the car conference hosted by the financial times. part of the conversation focused on what else, his twitter takeover. a big revelation that he would reinvestors former president trump from the platform. he said permanent bams would be extremely rare and call it morally wrong and effective and drove him away from a single forum of debate. >> it was not correct to ban donald trump. i think that was a mistake. it alienated a large part of the country and did not ultimately result in donald trump not having a voice. the answer is i would reverse the permanent ban. >> elon musk said that jack dorsey agreed with him. he said i do agree, there's exceptions but generally
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permanent bans are a failure of ours and don't work. he said some posts do not belong. he identified speech categories that are destructive to the world and wrong and bad that should face penalties. the big question is what content receives those labels and how similar criticism thrown at current moderators. it's a thin line to walk, right? stepping to that editorial roles with liberals threating more. jen psaki responded to questions about musk. he said the left wing bias might be because it's located in san francisco. maybe we'll see. twitter move out of california. >> neil: can you imagine? kelly, thank you for that. kelly o'grady. the late forecast the border, a couple weeks away from a momentous moment that could be a scary moment. the eagle pass texas mayor here and only here at this. hey you two, go outside and play. ♪ ♪
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>> neil: less than two weeks away from title 42 going away at the border. many are concerned. the eagle pass texas mayor here with us. what happens on that day assuming there's no extension there or no alternative plan? >> what happens -- first off, thanks for having me. we're getting prepared as a city to have thousands of people cross the border. right now what we're doing is
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working together with border patrol, and we have created a staging here if we have hundreds of thousands of people, to process them. eagle pass is a very small community. we just don't have the resources to have thousands of people in our city. >> neil: so that seems inevitable. wee heard figures from 7,300 per day today. could easily triple. do you think that is really possible? >> absolutely. getting together with federal agents is very likely. actually they say there's already hundreds of thousands of people just waiting for may 23 once title 42 is no longer in effect so that they can come in. so we're getting ready for the worst. definitely don't want anything to happen like it did to our neighbors in del rio, where you
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have an influx of 15,000 immigrants coming in to the community. so we want to maintain order. >> neil: i apologize, sir. are you angry at the mexicans for not doing more? many say mexico is doing very little to alleviate the pressure ahead of this. >> i've been working with the mayors across the border. they're doing a good job. what i think would help, a stronger message from the federal government, from our president to tell these people we're a nation of laws and this isn't open borders. i think the message there is what is failing. these people think that we're a nation of open borders. that's why you have thousands crossing through our city of eagle pass, texas. you know, it's very sad. today we got news a lady from
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honduras drowned in the river, seven months pregnant. we're seeing stories like that. it's very sad. as a country, we need to send a strong message telling them that we are a nation of laws and we can't just come in -- >> neil: we have to make that clear. thanks. that will do it here. here's "the five." >> jesse: hello. i'm jesse waters with judge jeanine, harold forth jr., dana perino and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." >> do you take any responsibility for your policy? >> our pollsies help, not hurt. >> jesse: president biden taking zero responsibility for record high inflation and claims that he's helping americans.


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