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>> thank you for spending part of your sunday with us, good night from south carolina. ♪ ♪ >> i am shannon bream. mass shooting in the organ abortion emerges as a flashpoint in the midterm elections. pennsylvania prepares for its turn in the primary spotlight. ♪. shannon: a march to the sepsis supreme court after a leaked draft of signaling justices are poised to overturn roe. >> will sing of the american people, stand with innocent wiper. >> and moved by democrats to pass a bill up making a to an abortion national law, build to
pass. this devotes the senate is not where the majority of americans are on this issue brickwork snap the debate shifts to the states that this hour will talk with two state leaders, oklahoma governor were abortion is now banned after six weeks apart in colorado jared who state has expanded the abortion with virtually no limit. plus a nationwide shortage of baby formula has a parents and washington scrambling for answers. >> the baby's crying, the baby is hungry we need to address it right now but. >> this administration should be look at everything and anything. we have heard absolutely nothing for. >> lastly send a panel but the political fallout or formula. and. quick stakes are high stakes are high for. >> the pennsylvania public and primary now a three-way race as the conservative candidate suddenly surges. >> if i lose, you lose work to us cap a barnette about her last-minute surge and scrutiny from fellow republicans.
and we talk to voters on a road trip across the keystone state and this week's road to the midterms. >> do you think people are going to take what's happened to their wallet and go to the polls? >> i hope they do. >> all, right now on fox news sunday. ♪. shannon: hello again fox news in washington but will get to the national debate over abortion in just a minute. but first, breaking news. ♪ i have a horrific scene of violence in western new york authorities as saying a white 18 rope gunmen wearing military gear open fire on a supermarket and a predominantly black neighborhood in buffalo killing ten people, wounding three others with the suspect live streaming at all with the helmet camera. go straight to the scene from the latest from alexis mcadams. >> shannon, that is right a horrible scene in buffalo, new york as this community grieves a
loss of so many innocent lives but investigators say this was a racially motivated attack here in buffalo, new york. sources telling us the gunmen and detail of attack and planted posted online for take a look on your screen this is a photo of the affected gunmen now given to us just last night by police. buffalo police say they've identified the gunman's 18-year-old peyton. it just hours after that shooting the teen was arraigned on first-degree murder charges. investigators say he drove more than three hours from a small rural home in downstate to carry out the deadliest mass shooting in buffalo's history. the shooting happened around 2:30 p.m. saturday afternoon and this tops grocery store buffalo pretty to the crime scene there. he shot three people in the parking lot and then ten more inside. officers that he was armed with an assault rifle interest in tactical cure from head to toe but investigators tell us of the 13 people shot, 11 were black. >> this was pure evil.
it was straight up racially motivated hate crime from somebody outside of our community, outside of the city of good neighbors as the mayor said. coming into our community and trying to inflict that evil upon us. >> tonight the suspect will be behind bars and will be back in court on thursday. president biden did condemn the shooting in a twit saying in part we must do everything we can to end hate fueled domestic terrorism, shannon for. >> alexis mcadam reporting from buffalo alexis thank you. shannon: now the debate over abortion breaking wide open with the leak of a draft majority opinion that indicates the supreme court could soon overturn roe v wade. proponents of marching to the steps of the high courts this weekend and per democrats rejoin their midterm message and now they fight shifting to the halls of congress and state houses across the country. in a moment will be joined by
two governors to states or dealing with the issue very differently. of colorado and kevin of oklahoma. but first let's turn to lucas tomlinson of the white house with the latest in the biden administration, lucas. >> shannon, justice clarence thomas choate called the league and infidelity that shredded the trust among the justices and rallies across the country protesters voice their outrage. crowds ascending on the national mall. and in major cities across the country spurred to action as a direct result of the leaked draft opinion. democratic lawmakers attacking the court's conservative majority. >> we all know this is a crisis moment. the radical supreme court justices and right wing extremists are making it clear that they won't stop a nationwide ban is expected for. >> protesters command to march in for the homes of conservative justices. many republicans in some want
present bind to attorney shall just stop them because it's unlawful to against the law to protest a sitting justice requests the motion does not agree to protect their credit we just try to make abortion a constitutional right. fifty-one -- four damn boat falling well short of the 60 needed to clear a procedural hurdle. >> sadly the senate failed to stand in defense of a woman's right to make decisions about her own body pay. >> red states plan to target the procedure. blue states rushing to protect abortion rights. in six states including colorado there are no abortion restrictions. a baby formula shortage now the latest problem for the white house on top of record-setting inflation that remains close to a 40 year high. >> empty shelves that imprint scrambling calling friends and family and other states to check availability her final news conferences press secretary jen psaki claims the white house all the latest crisis brewing. >> i will note there has been work ongoing for months.
>> two weeks or not house democrats plan to hold a hearing to discuss the baby formula crisis. shannon. shannon: lucas tomlinson report for the white house, lucas thank you. turning south from oklahoma city republican governor, governor welcome to fox news sunday. >> thank you shannon, thanks for have me on too. >> with the appearance of that leaked a draft opinion if it remains becomes a majority opinion that may be going down you signed a trigger law that would make it a felony to perform an abortion punishable by up to ten years in jail and up to $100,000 in fines. performs abortions in oklahoma said this these laws are being created by people of note medical expertise. they're not being. with patient safety or medical outcomes in mind they are created entirely by control body your response? >> my response as i represent 4 million oklahoma's. i don't how much clear we can all be. we believe life begins at conception were going to protect life in oklahoma.
there were 5000 just in oklahoma alone 5000 unborn children that were killed last year end we do not believe that in oklahoma. other states can do things differently we are going to stand for life in the state of oklahoma. >> a group called the front tier journalistic group has looked into it they say some fact checks what you are saying about what how people in oak while the filled out abortion. they cite a. research that is tate most recent numbers they have are from 2014 from 51% of oklahoma respondents believe abortion should be legal in all or most cases. they last for years to say your state pretty evenly split on this issue. x oh well, some of those -- some of those different facts of those newspapers you are quoting are not what we find with the people in oklahoma. the representatives are from all of the state of oklahoma probably 80 or 90% passage in our states. i totally disagree with those
numbers but. >> was talk about another while you site much like what your neighboring state texas is on for private causes of action for anyone who attempts, completes or facilitates an abortion for this include some who pacer went after a heart beat is detected. roughly six weeks got brandon's fox news pulling on this and how people feel about that six week mark. a 50% say they think six weeks abortion should remain legal. your law as you know it has for rape or incest. the victim may not know it six weeks she is pregnant. but he say for a woman who finds himself in that situation lives and that state feels like she has no options? >> first of all super compassion about that. i have daughters and cannot even imagine what that would be like and that hardship. you have to choose, that is a human being inside the wilmot. we are going to do everything we can to protect life for both the mother and the child we don't
think killing one to protect another is the right thing to do either. our heart is super compassionate about that part two of the churches throughout all of the services the state, the non- profits to come ralph adoption services. that is super, super hard. we are going to do everything we can to help them. but aborting that child we don't think is the right thing to do. shannon: let's talk this on this issue she knows where the main critiques of the pro-life position. so in oklahoma to look at the steps of what a woman is facing there with a child, 21.3% of children live below the poverty line. 71% of snap participants are in families with children and oklahoma ranked 42nd overall and child well-being for a "washington post" opinion headline puts it this way, the gop roars about abortion than they abandon the children. so, what is the plan and oklahoma to help women if you are advising them to carry through on these pregnancies
when they're up against some real challenges? >> well, here's the deal. is the answer to the socialist democrat left to abort poor kids? that is just ridiculous even quote this types of stats. we have a free market in oklahoma we believe god has a special plan for every single life and every single child. and we want everyone to have the same opportunities in oklahoma. aborting a child is not the right answer. >> went to ask others made tie in with the recent decision from 2020 said basically crimes are committing taking place on a reservation they're going to face prosecution now there are questions about do you think there would be doctors who would say we can get around the state laws we can perform abortions on reservations. people can come to us if that's the care want to seek.
>> that's a lot of a lot of oklahomans of her the rumbling's as well the tribes in oklahoma are super liberal. they go to washington d.c. they talk to president biden at the white house they kind of adopt those strategies so yes we think there is a possibility some tribes may try to set up abortion on demand. they think you could be 11 thousands tribal member and not have to file the state law. that is something we are watching. i will tell you this oklahomans will not think very well of that the tribes try to put up abortion clinics abortion on demand and eastern oklahoma includes a city of tulsa now which is a million person ssa. >> out to talk further at the tribal lands the separation there nearly half of all oklahoma land are part of a reservation. you've vetoed a bill that would require the state to recognize
tribal conviction in the same way it acts upon conviction from state municipal court. at 96% support from your legislature the intertribal council of the five civilized tribes said this. it's unfortunate the governor vetoed the public safety but we welcome opportunities to collaborate and work together. our governor continues to be uncooperative and unwilling. i want to give a chance to explain why you vetoed that of what is going on there. >> first off that was not a bill requested that was not a bill the department of public service requested. that is a tribal builder try to get across the finish line it did not reciprocate. there were in the state of oklahoma to accept all tribal conditions whether they had jurisdiction or not. it was not reciprocated they were not willing to take on the stateside as well. we are not going to expand it tribal jurisdiction the state of oklahoma. we want to have an honest conversation. really the question should be asked where the tribes fighting the state of oklahoma to protect
native victims in the u.s. supreme court? we just argued before the supreme court the tribes fought for the stage from trying to protect and prosecute a bad guy there was not even native to protect the native victim. again we are for a law and order and eastern oklahoma for the trying to confuse the situation. oklahomans want to protect and we want to build a prosecute the crimes of eastern oklahoma. right now they're telling us we don't have that right too. >> governor stitt we appreciate that's our time to rethink his heart for joining us today but. >> thanks shannon. spin it up next another state and the perspective colorado governor joints is next.
shannon: six years before roe v wade became the loveland colorado begin the first aged to caramelize abortion now finds itself in the front lines. tournaments now from boulder governor jared polis welcome back to fox news sunday, governor. >> good morning shannon. shannon: okay this is what you resent signed into law the reproductive health equity active state simply a pregnant individual has a fundamental right to continue the pregnancy and give birth or to have an abortion. i don't see any structures related to weeks or trimesters. does that meet in colorado now there's a right to abortion up to what? >> what we did here to be
preserved essentially the roe versus wade protection in colorado because fundamentally, shannon, what we believe this is not about the government making that decision it is about women making that decision. on to win this battle it's about the hearts and minds of women, but the laws of man. shannon: is there a limit on abortion for women up to nine months in colorado? >> it's a statement has been for the last several decades people facing good branching decisions every day whether it is rape or incest often having to choose between the life of the mother or child for the government to insert itself in that conversation tweet of doctor and a woman, faith leader and a woman, it is simply wrong. waiting to approach this a different way. i think there's a lot of common ground run reducing unwanted pregnancies, empowering women and men birth control. really generating a culture of responsibility about what it means to be a parent. spin and i will take that as a guest there was an option for abortion up to birth.
let's talk about that. when a people specifically by trimester framework as to whether it should be legal illegal, 80% will begin to third trimester is you should be illegal even "new york times" noted in an article updated this may the united states is one of just over a dozen countries that allow abortions for any reason beyond 15 weeks of pregnancy. the times goes on to note that includes north korea and china. set the company colorado ones want to begin? >> this was on the ballot in colorado just a year end a half ago overwhelmingly rejected bening third trimester abortions. that is because people know how painstaking and difficult that is. when you know you might beat near birth you find that your kid -- make your baby doesn't have lungs and will live for more than a few minutes outside of the womb. this is a really difficult thing that women face. and the right answer is of course to make sure we trust people to make that decision and
people have the freedom to do that we do not say big government is going to insert itself until them how to handle something that sadly really does not have a right answer. spin it we simply do people think abortion should be legal illegal straight up questioner fox polling 4040% said legal. 54% said illegal that's the lowest number we have checked for it legal to first-time illegal has polled about 50%. so there in colorado conservative leader said these are the kind of numbers that on their side, jeff director centeno institute said my contention is a trend with us we may lose the battle but we will win the war in the state there already talking about measures for 2024 you worried about your work being undone and coming elections? >> not particularly. it has been on the ballot as a set as recently as a year end a half ago. voters agreed the government should not interfere with this basic freedom this basic decision. it really is in the realm of conscience. it's in the realm of how women
understand there are options buried by the way that includes adoption. we implemented a preschool in colorado making daycare more affordable part of want to make sure people know about these things and of course we want to make sure we can increase access to birth control for both men and women and really build that culture of responsibility and also understand the importance of consent for both men and women to help reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies. >> spent a zero while the bands picketing and parades outside judges with the intent of influencing the "washington post" has come out now against these pickets and demonstrations at supreme court justices private homes. one of the top democrats in the senate has done as well but what is your position on these demonstrations? >> well, i certainly do not think they are effective in persuading judges. in fact it might further alienate them from a particular cause to be that aggressive. i think our judges the men and
women on the supreme court are the embodiment of our highest and best judges are very thoughtful about how they look at the information how they look at the record they make a decision. i've read a number of their decisions over time. i think we want to keep that intellectual realm rather than direct them for their in the political realm request talk about the economy that can used to pull the top concern for americans across the board across party lines, backgrounds, ages all of that. there in denver specifically they have got inflationary payments above the national average which is already pretty tough for folks. the seventh highest among u.s. metro areas want to cook us of the numbers you're dealing with out there. food prices up over 9% utilities up over 17 in housing about 8%. what more do think the administration could be doing to deal with inflation? >> well, here we are focused on tax relief would cut property taxes by seven or $50 million. every colorado is going to 500-dollar rebate check.
but i think washington could focus on it if it is of course fiscal responsibility, monetary policy in addition to the links to them drop some of the tariffs which add additional inflationary pressure for consumer products across the country. >> during covid your bit of an outlaw you to keep from the left you thought you were a little too permissive when it came to things like masks, lockdowns and mandates. do you regret any of the decisions you made note of a closing nearly a million deaths in the u.s. question requested value freedom in colorado. we never sugarcoat it would give people the best information we could about the importance of masks indoor in around others we did a normal statewide vaccination campaign the risks are ten times less if you're fully vaccinated. so again it has been a difficult challenge everywhere. think it is tragic we have lost a million lives to this pandemic. but without being trusted purveyors of information in making that vaccine widely available we be talk about several million people right now. spin a governor got to ask you
something totally random we are prepping for the show is dishonest about the unsolved jonbenet ramsey case a few days he said i could say one thing the killer of jonbenet ramsey should not rest easily because i'm still optimistic he or she will be apprehended with the top analogy that lists today and in five years and ten years producing that case will ultimately suck be solved, governor? >> we've had several great cold case breakthroughs in colorado essentially prosecutor with harsh bureau of investigation technologies emerging everyday they can take existing evidence, analyze it new ways. i don't think anybody create a capitol crime ten, 20, 30, 40 years ago should rest easy because technology is making improvements makes it likely to be able to apprehend the suspect and very optimistic. twenty-seven on a wide array of topics always good to speaking with you thanks for being here today. >> thank you. shannon: cap next both democrats and republicans think they've got a shot at pennsylvania's open senate seat. come tuesday we could know a lot
spin and fox's centers on the road to the bedroom today in pennsylvania a three way race for the republican nomination for the senate seat left open by retiring senator pat toomey here's the latest fox news show showing oz, mccormick and barnette in a statistical dead heat it was a much different picture back in march with barnette pulling a just a single digits when it comes to enthusiasm the subgroup of voters who say they are extremely interested in this election, barnette top oz and mccormick who outspent her by millions in just about all speak with kathy barnette about her sudden surge. but first alex hoff takes on a road trip across the keystone state where he up with voters and campaigns. >> this time was so prosperous for their stores, and restaurants us was like time scripture. >> braddock, pennsylvania sits just east of pittsburgh what was
once known as a steel valley. >> once the mills went a lot of sense of pride and families went to progress the steel mill is a rare survivor the industry's 1980s collapsible so operational it's days as the town's lifeblood have long gone. directly across the street is what used to be a prominent car dealership. >> you had some expense about right? >> my dad bought a car there in the mid 60s were quick to tell candidate john federman. >> we need to keep making sure in this country for. >> federman as shall we say it out size political figure pennsylvania winter perhaps in part because he did not look the part. >> he spent 13 years as a braddock's became lieutenant governor break. >> those are more choice projects he has so far held a soap lead in the primary race even as his opponent has called to progressive the pack a backing lamb ran a short-lived ad calling him a democratic socialist brickwork socialist.
>> does not hurt the party as a whole? using words like that? like this connor story consulted way needs to. neither he nor i are socialist obviously. when you have trouble in poles and money you say things that are desperate for. >> the voter demographic in pennsylvania is nearly identical to the united states as a whole. the looks and links of each region differing greatly. so come as candidates put in the miles so do we. >> these campaigns a lot of them have been traveling for 100 days now. we get to the diners and then the local officials along the way. >> who is introducing? workout up with republican senate current candidate david mccormick at a campaigns up outside philadelphia. >> thank you for being here brickwork's former hedge fund ceo mccormick is facing a very tight primary race. >> stakes are high steaks or hybrids a majority of this campaign mccormick has been pulling neck and neck with the
producing character celebrity heart surgeon doctor mehmet also. how are you bouncing winning them over? >> he is very popular. and mehmet is not popular us and he is not popular's his positions don't line up with the primary voters. >> road trip into the outside the station we will discuss this with doctor oz but first he paid a visit to someone within a group of increasingly coveted voters. as a suburban mom. >> i had been a liberal democrat for 34 years but. >> that changed during the pandemic she felt covid school closures and mask mandates had to have a burden on families. parents eyes were open to pulsing curriculum issues. >> if they just open the schools all of us parents would've gone back to our jobs in our lives it would stop paying attention brickwork she says crime inflation also become issues
weighing heavily on families. >> out to the grocery store. you know i had three little bags of groceries it was over $100 for. >> the latest university pulpits inflation of the top of republican voters concerns followed by illegal immigration which many see as contributing to drug smuggling and worsening a glaring opioid epidemic. lesson two hour drive west and the contrast within the commonwealth become more vivid. lancaster county is home to the largest amish population. they shy away from showing their faces on camera. but in recent years have broken tradition by showing up to the polls print almost always in favor of republican candidates. further west while there are a lot more cars to fill up,. >> blue color people. >> rising cost begin to the fuel pump. >> you have to make sure you can afford food. >> do you think people are going to take what's happened to the
waltz and go to the polls? >> i hope they do. cooks among democrats the issue of abortion also suddenly reemerge as a rallying cry. >> you cannot sit back and were lax in and assume things will continue on the same way they have. >> it should be very concerning moment for all americans been hoping will bring people out to the polls. >> pennsylvania bar and have a lot of fun for. >> or public inside a different rallying cry. >> doctor oz for. >> former president president trump during his weight behind doctor oz. >> it will be for doctor oz even though i heard he is a liberal is far as abortion is concerned. back in western pennsylvania oz greeted vamps and undecided voters assuring them he believes that life begins at conception. >> are all kinds of people who are confused because after $30 million of negative ads that run against you you can confuse people. >> prior to a sitdown interview i mentioned i had felt lightheaded earlier in the week.
and in true form, despite a career in medicine and to be awesome says the former president backing proves he is the right choice. >> i am smart, tough and will never let you down. he wrote that to address the folks were saying what you are saying which is oz is trump and doris but is he really the right person? yes he is. >> in recent weeks another serious but far less well-funded republican tender has emerge from congressional primary kathy barnette. >> people they were too busy in fighting and now you see a surge pre- >> i haven't been vicious i've been focus, right? they are mad iran a far superior campaign. little old me they did not expect it. >> off the campaign trail in pennsylvania's eclectic commonwealth of communities, life is still tourist and politicians have made promises before. >> are still manufacturing is never going to go back to the
50s and 60s. if it did that be when the greatest miracles of my lifetime. >> alec hoff reported from pennsylvania bridge during cell kathy barnette when the republican senate candidates. miss barnette walk on fox news sunday. >> thank you so much for having me. >> a show to the polling as well as those who most interested in this race, you are starting at just the right time on a shoestring budget compared to the other two top contenders. but, former president trump has weighed in on this race a pretty a plenty of good things to say about you but also offers this big kathy barnette will never be able to in the general election against the radical left democrats. she has many things in her past which have not been properly explained or vetted. here's what doctor oz said to me about that when i asked him thursday and special report. >> she has raised questions in her own candidacy she has refused to answer this is a candidate who lost by 20 points when she ran for congress 18 months ago.
she's not going to do all the general election. spain i want to give a chance to answer these questions in your creek cluster with your military record you've never lose a couple of forms related to your service. your website, your bio seducer for tenuous critics say those forms do not prevent out, your response? >> that is not true. those forms to prove just that. i have not embellished on my record, on my time in the military i'm very grateful that i have the wonderful opportunity to serve our country. spent where were you an adjunct college professor? >> yes. in fact let me make this really short for you. hand to viewers you can go to my website at barnette for senate.com. we have placed right there on the front page will see my family and around my family is a well only place within the things you want to know about kathy barnette. i've been running this race now for about 13 months.
and if you listen to the mainstream media you would think i crawled from under iraq yesterday. i did not. we have been out here for 13 months. we started off doing about 90 miles a week and then bumped it up to in thousand. now these last couple of months we have been traveling over 150. i have been out here stomping the ground, getting to understand what the issues are in pennsylvania. and the immediate was derelict in their duty. i have been in a statistical tie for first place not just a one-week buck, but for about four weeks. so i have been out here during the hard work with the numbers have been showing it. no one paid attention to me they were too obsessed with the two men in this race did not take a bother to look at what we were doing pre- >> targeting the attention you have searched for you at the right time. so is the information about your work as a professor on the website now? >> it is. >> okay when did you move to pennsylvania?
>> yes, we have lived here for nine years going into our tenth year. i have raised two of my babies here. spent it's a great state as i told her during the commercial merit into pennsylvania family and is a great place have family. >> i love it i love pennsylvania. >> uses some of its are taken out of context. i want to give you a chance to respond to them a tweet in 2014 he said if you love freedom must not be allowed to survive under any condition you got tweets about former president obama, one of them in 2016 said open mom is doing a muscle drink muzzle mike things. he said he's not he's a practicing christian. so any context for those particular tweets? >> yes. let me say in almost all of those tweets especially when you look at the time frame we were living in at that particular time we had the obama administration bringing in a lot of syrian refugees at a time. i was watching the former fbi
director, james comey testify i believe in front of the senate think we can vet until the cows come home and we will not know who these people are. yet obama at the time was telling the american people don't worry about it we are going to affect everyone. but we were watching as america, very unnerving branch of the people will remember that. we look at the post and nightclub shooting we were looking at people take vehicles, weaponize them and run people down the streets. we're looking at the san bernardino shooting. we will look at some very unnerving things that as americans we thought would never happen here. and at that time i was hosting a show called truth exchange i would have all kinds of ideas and was leaning into helping the public begin to have those conversations. that is the context around a lot of those tweets. those are being presented too or not. spurred that people take it and they began to build our own
narrative around it. i cannot provide a lot of context because again it's almost ten years ago. that is how far they have to go back to try to find anything on me. what i can say although i cannot provide a lot of context of that it is a half thought and everything is not there for me too be able to speak to it. but i can say is i love my country. and i have always loved my country. i have always been willing not to blink in the face of difficult discussions but we are facing a lot of difficult discussions almost 1500 miles traveling all around the commonwealth. people feel squeezed and known as ask me about my tweet. what they are talking about the illegal immigration we are on track front million unlawfully present people. this your loan they're talking about inflation. have someone call me the other day saying they are driving over and hour because they heard a rumor about baby formula milk. we have some very real issues
that is the reason why i am searching and doing so well is because throughout this entire time i kept the main thing, the main thing and that is pennsylvania. shannon: you know if you win this primary your democratic opponent mr. fadiman's going to bring up these things and more per they have not come to light until now because you have done so well and your opponents think you're a threat how will you answer him? he will not hold punches on these many things. >> yes, people ask me all the time are you afraid to run against fetterman. my response is generally as long as i'm not running while black as many of your listeners well know he was not only accused but he did held a black man up with a shotgun. democrats have their own issues. i truly believe as we continue to move throughout this year the american people specifically pennsylvanians are again going to prioritize their kitchen
table issues above a lot of the other noise we are hearing right now. people are unnerved. most people know gun fondly wrong with how it's been govern. attacking themselves, refusing we have seven duvets and mehmet oz and mccormick showed up to two will they were talking one another on television i was out here with the people. we spent less than $2 million they are mad. they are mad because i did not ask for permission to be in this space. i just walked in because this is my country and our country is in trouble. i do not believe we have any more room to elect to warm bodies within our licks of the name and say check republicans when we don't want us not
working out for us. spent after that incident is him not confess i'm not from without alga shall dig into that picture get information out. >> it is there it is they are. shannon: thank you for your time will follow the returns who happens on tuesday. >> thank you so much for having me pick her except exit by demonstration tries to dodge the political fallout from rising gas prices. now a nationwide shortage of baby formula impacting parents and the political landscape portal bring or send a group to discuss what some voters mind as they head to the ballot box
intimidation tactics aimed directly at federal judges. >> i know there is an outrage right now i guess about protests that have been peaceful to date. we certainly encourage that outside of judges homes. >> a debate over demonstration supreme court justices homes with the political faultlines of the leak of a draft opinion indicates the potential overturning of roe v wade at the time now for the sender group fox news contributor charlie hurt, foreign dnc seek medication directors, fox news contributor guy bench and host of the guide bench and shout and catherine who covers the white house for the wall street journal. welcome to all of you. alright charlie, what you make of these protests? we have a number of prominent democrats cannot including dick durbin this week to say don't do it. >> it dick durbin's comments were a little late. actually his were fairly forceful but unfortunately out of the white house they were late actually kind of nonexistence.
which reveals a terrible double sense of the problem is of course it's actually illegal you are not allowed to do this sort of thing. so we have a lot of concern about our institutions which is a good thing to have, this disregard for a real attack on an entire branch of government trying to work through a very complicated issue is not good for the country. >> edit the relevant parts with the intent of interfering with obstructing or impeding the administration of justice or the intent of influencing any judge in the discharge of his duty pickups operates in or near a building or residence occupied or used by such a judge shall be fined under the title or imprisoned not more than one year old both. so moe, why isn't the justice department getting involved? they get involved in a lot of things. i'm not a lawyer am not a prosecutor not going to pretend to know why the d.o.j. is or isn't doing anything. i was a politically i am against
these protests outside their homes for a number of reasons one i just think it's wrong. number two it's not going to be successful they're not going to sway any justice. but number three we spent the last couple of minutes talking about the protest outside of justices homes instead of talking about the content instead of talking about the real threat to roe v wade. and as a supporter of having access to abortion of roe v wade i would much rather be having that conversation than whether or not or where we are protesting. bret: senate democrats try to pass something cap being entitled the codification of roe v wade many people think is far beyond that the world news group have the piece entitled more radical than rest of the proposed law was much more extreme that abortion on demand for any reason and at any point up until birth. the first time in our nation's history schumer's law would have done away with the religious liberty protection for medical
providers who object to performing abortions on religious or conscious ground. it would have also allowed for selective abortions. even pro-choice republicans are joined by joe manchin said they cannot go that far. >> right. i think the senate bill was actually appalling it goes far beyond anything that really approaches just codifying a row. a few senators were asked questions about that on the democratic side and corona who i said let's not get bogged down in the details but the details actually metal quite a lot the details were discussing they're actually quite similar to the bill just recently signed into law by governor your guest earlier in the program he was dancing around your question. the answer was yes unfortunately. but he did not really want to spell that out. he did say this issue, abortion should become numb to the hearts and minds of women not the laws of men. he is eight mail governor who signed a bill into law that according to a new you go the pole flies in the face of 65% of
what american women believe on this question. so, i think you saw these two governors on the program today. different approaches that represent in each case a pretty small segment of the american electorate and public opinion whereas many other people there is a messy middle here on a lot of these issues does not really seem to be getting a lot of attention from some of the loudest voices. shannon: so catherine how does the white house assess this? the presidents upside out on almost every issue repoll on. this democrats say something to rally round for the midterm so they feel like this is it? certainly democrats think this is potentially galvanizing issue they think this motivates women voters, some of the key groups they think are important and some the tough districts in the fall suburban women, they are hoping this will help bring people out and get people energized in an election that's looking very, very challenging for democrats for the president's numbers are really
low. people are frustrated about information they're frustrated about the shortages of baby foreman for example which is a real issue for parents. the question is, how much this does? what i've heard from a lot of analysts and pollsters is democrats in an economic message for the need to bill a talk to be about inflation into bill show their doing things on this. people do think this could help on the margins for. >> to the economy, 710 american so pew research in a poll released this week inflation is a very big problem for the country today. we president is upside down, democrats are upside down these things and people vote with their wallets. she think it is salvageable by the midterm the issue of the economy? >> this is actually fairly messy election season i think. there are so many unknowns that are still coming in. how does roe v wade play into this? how does any number play into this? how does yesterday's tragic shooting in buffaloes and the issues that come with that
change sort of our collective thinking purring having said all of that, inflation is a big problem. it is going to be the number one issue. that's why see the president out there over the past week being much more assertive and aggressive and talking about the issue and trying to number one say here's what democrats in my administration are trying to do and number two increasingly doing contrast with the republicans for increasing drawing a contrast with how senator rick scott tax plan will negatively impact people per. >> republicans -- >> you see them trying to draw a contrast between the two sides. i end up look, they are even beginning to see how they can try to connect the economic argument to issues like roe v wade you brought up some great statistics in your interview with your governor of oklahoma a little while ago. he seemed to be caught a little
flat-footed by some of those. economic impact of some issues. i think you'll see democrats lead into it a lot more they are facing some serious headwind. cooks with a challenge for the white house as they are trying to create a choice for voters say lucas us versus the republican tears or republicans or do they raise taxes. it's typically very, very hard to shift midterm election for what is a referendum. >> especially got this issue of moms who can find formula, charlie. >> also with inflation in particular the white house also denied that was a problem for very long time and tried to pretend it away. the fact they are grasping at something like roe v wade i think also underscores just how desperate they are for an issue how you would rather be talking about roe v wade. i'm on the opposite side of this
issue. if it does in fact get overturned. so people elected legislature can have the arguments. arrive at decisions i found a word she requests the president gave the speech a lot of blame for inflation that pulses are helping not hurting. that's not their perception of anyway thank you very much sue next sunday cap next a final word up ahead. the more information i found, got me more curious. it showed how much my family was really rooted in campbell county.
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