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about those families. we are praying for those families. we care about those families and fellow texans and fellow americans. >> carley: we echo that sentiment. a tight-knit community going through so much right now. attorney general ken paxton, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> carley: with that "fox & friends" starts right now. >> todd: bye-bye. ♪ >> ainsley: we start with a fox news alert. tragedy in texas, at least 19 children and two teachers killed in a shooting at robb elementary school? uvalde, texas. this morning, we are learning of the names of some of those killed. xavier lopez was a fourth grader, he was only 10 years old. he accepted an award at the school with his mother just hours before the shooting, the last time she saw him alive. and the associated press reports 8-year-old u z iah garcia is also among the dead two. teachers were also killed.
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including this lady eva morlz who spent nearly two decades in that school district. >> will: sources tell fox news the suspected shooter 18-year-old salvador ramos was shot and killed border patrol agent special unit who respond to the disaster. an emotional president biden addressed the nation moments after the tragedy. biden is offering quote any and all assistance to texas governor greg abbott. across the country flags are flying at half-staff to honor the victims. >> ainsley: we also have live team coverage there in uvalde. we have lawrence jones joining us from texas. lawrence, what's the latest there? >> >> lawrence: guys, you know, i have covered many shootings involving young people, whether it's chicago or philly. the smell of death here. i just saw the suspect's truck that he used to get here.
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the one comfort that i do find is that law enforcement was able to get this guy. sadly it wasn't before he took 21 lives. eva morales is a hero. we should honor her today. she used her body as a shield to protect her classroom. it's one thing to teach those kids, but to put your life on the line for those kids, i think it's pretty remarkable. i don't want to say the shooter's name any more than we have already said it because we don't want to give him what he wanted which is glory. we want to focus on the victims. we want to focus on the heroes. the cop that decided to engage but w. not enough backup on the scene this was a very fluid situation. there was a lot of good guys who came out here to make sure that we saved some lives. i know it's hard to talk about it we are talking about the second most young people that we have lost in a national tragedy like this ever. and so our heart breaks.
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my heart breaks. i'm a texan. this is home, will, as you know. one thing i will say is this, guys: the law enforcement they have let me know right now. i know theres with a lot of speculation about had the family been notified. all the families now have been notified. all the bodies have been taken away from the scene they did that in the night so there couldn't be any cameras. everyone knows that their loved one is now lost there are some painful conversations that happened over-the-night. families right now are grieving, guys. >> will: absolutely true. as we spend our morning here, lawrence will be with us throughout the day and uvalde, texas. we spend our morning hopefully doing two things. bringing you the latest information. the facts on exactly what has unfolded there. this immeasurable, incomprehensible tragedy and bring you the latest details and do our best to provide whatever small sense of comfort,
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obviously in extending our empathy to all of those involved. there will be time when we will be searching for answers for what it is that plagues this nation. how we move forward and ensure this does not happen again. this, i think i can say for all of us will not be a day where we focus on partisan politics. this will be a day where we focus on this country as a whole. not a divided united states of america but united states of america. >> ainsley: these are children we are talking about in the great state of texas. these are american children. and we remember them this morning. we are praying for their families. i was reading about this shooter who walked into the school. i have questions about that. why was the door unlocked or was it unlocked? how did he get in the school? there was a fourth grade classroom close to the entrance. he walked. in children were jumping out of the windows. some of them were hiding at a funeral home which was close by to the school. there are reports that this shooter killed his grandmother first and then headed over to the school, was heavily armed in body armor and had weapons and walked into the school and killed these innocent children.
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>> will: there are suggestions he was involved in a car accident and that began this melee but, you are right. there is also reports that he killed his grandmother first. we will find out all these details as time goes on and as everyone wakes up and as lawrence has time to talk to more people in uvalde, we have reporters on the ground obviously all throughout the night last night and this morning. >> ainsley: lawrence is co-hosting the show with us. lawrence, great to have you in this morning and will, lawrence, we are thankful you are there on the ground and give us details as they unfold. >> lawrence: you got it, family. it's important. the president of the united states, joe biden addressed this tragedy last night. let's take a look. >> i had hoped when i became president i would not have to do this. , again. another massacre. uvalde, texas, an elementary school.
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beautiful, innocent, second, thirksd fourth graders and how many scores of little children who witnessed what happened see their friends die as if they are in a battlefield parents who will never be the same. to lose a child is like having a piece of your soul ripped away. i ask the nation to pray for them. give the parents and siblings the strength in the darkness they feel right now. as a nation, we have to ask when in god's name are we going to stand up to the gun lobby. >> will: in almost a speech that was the story of je'kel and hyde. president biden did spend the first part of his speech extending condolences you very heart felt. the hole that can never be
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filled loss of the child. did he turn to politics and turn to gun control. we do have a conversation what is at the root cause of what seems to be an increasing plague in this country. there is something, there is something plaguing this country we will spend time figuring that out. buff the president did spend time there at the beginning talking about this on a human level. >> ainsley: yeah. the president was on air force one when he heard the news and was reacting to this. he created psalm 34. he said the lord is near to the broken hearted and saves the crushed in spirit much. and our country is crushed. so are these families. the young uziah garcia was 8 years old. his family say he loved gaming and playing basketball as friends. we can relate to that as parents. there is another child who on twitter last night 6:38 a relative was asking if anyone had information. we can't find her very worried. six hours later she tweeted that her beautiful cousin was one of the victims and she wrote rest in peace my sweet girl. you didn't deserve this there is
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also xavier lopez 10 years old. his family said he couldn't wait to get out of school because he wanted a summer of swimming there picture right there. his mother had just been there for the awards ceremony and that was the last time she saw her son alive. lawrence? >> lawrence: this kid had everything ahead of them two. days. just imagine, take yourself back to elementary school. two days before school is let out. your mind is on to summer. you are having fun with your friends. you are checked out. these seniors were just celebrating these young people. coming to their school. family members were there yesterday early that day celebrating these young people. and in the blink of an eye, an evil person, evil came to texas yesterday. and took these innocent lives. greg abbott, the governor of the great state of texas, had some words. take a listen. >> when parents drop their kids off at school, they have every
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expectation to know that they are going to be able to pick their child up when that school day ends. and there are families who are in mourning right now in the state of texas is in texas with them for the reality that these parents are not going to be able to pick up their children. >> will: that's the governor of texas, greg abbott. he will speak today at 1:00 p.m. eastern time. lawrence, you brought up, i think, appropriately, that human perspective that was experience. i can tell you i know ainsley can tell you when you have children there is literally nothing in the world that is more important. and to. >> ainsley: true. >> will: put yourself in the position those parents must sit in today it's impossible and you don't ever want it to be possible to understand what's being experienced there in texas. so, you know, i don't know what else i can say.
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>> ainsley: the tea party was married to a police officer. and her friends said she loved running and she loved hiking. she was just the sweetest. her neighbors say they would see her taking her dogs out. she would always stop and say hi. this couple they are just such nice people. she has a daughter in college. so now her mom won't be with her when she walks down the aisle one day or brings children into the world. she was in her 40's and in the school district for 17 years, lawrence. >> lawrence: innocent life. you know, guys, i don't have children but i know my parents love for me. every day -- i'm a grown man, every day because i'm cross-country. i send a text when i board the flight. when i get off the flight to just let my patience know that i'm safe. put yourself in those parents' position waiting all night to be notified if your children survived or not. the pit in your stomach. i mean, that's what we heard. some of our reporters that were on the scene talk about the
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wailing that was hang as the victims' parents waited outside of the community center to get the information they knew it because they hadn't heard from their children. they hadn't been reconnected because of the investigators still processing the scene. still asking the family members for d.n.a. so they can get it right. you don't want to go to a parent and tell them you got it wrong. you want to be able to deliver the news, how hard it is. you got to get it right. >> ainsley: and lawrence, imagine standing outside of that school. waiting. they haven't told you if your child is one of the victims. and you know your child is on the other side of that door, on the other side of those walls, and you can't get to them. even if they're taking their last breath or they just did. and you can't be with them in their last moments. how gut wrenching that would be. >> will: there were reports by the way there were parents running toward the building while it was unfolding. >> ainsley: i'm sure. >> will: obviously must have gotten some notice of what was happening in local community in
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uvalde at the school and racing, racing. you can imagine just in shear panic to save their children. >> lawrence: guys, thank you so much. i want to wring in lieutenant colonel allen west former texas gubernatorial candidate and former congressman. thank you so much. you are also a texas resident and run the party for texas. what is your word of comfort and healing for the community here in uvalde. >> well, without a doubt, pleasure to be with you lawrence. this is a sad day. and when i was notified of what happened, immediately i thought about my 1-year-old grandson who just turned 1 last week. and you think as you say as a parent, as a grandparent this is one of the worse things that can happen for you as a parent or grandparent. and it is so important that we come together and we support this community. i have been down to uvalde on several occasions. i know the mayor down there in uvalde is a very small, tight-knit community. as you just said evil came into
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that community. one of the things that i think we have to start asking ourselves is that why do you see sporting venues or entertainment venues or a place like the academy awards. they are more secure than our schools. we have got do better at protecting those most vulnerable in our society and in our communities and that's at our schools. i would hope that we start looking at ways that we can better secure our schools. and as a # 2 year veteran of the united states army, let's get out there and look for veterans who would be more than happy and honored to provide safety and security for the least of those amongst us, which is our children. >> lawrence: lieutenant colonel, you know, the obvious thing is evil will always be there. evil came to texas yesterday but it will always be there. what can we do to protect our precious loved ones? you know, when i see these pictures of these young people that died, i have a god baby
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that age. i can only see her face. >> first and foremost last night when i was going through and reading all the reports about this, there are always indicators and warnings, it seems, with these strategies. we go back to what just happened in buffalo, the individual there was posting on social media. he had been picked up and had a mental evaluation. but he was never followed up on. there was no -- he was released. and the exact same thing here with this evil person down in uvalde. and there was social media posts. and i find it unconscionable that you can get kicked off of social media by talking about covid or talking about vaccines, but, yet here you have someone who was making very questionable posts and violent oriented posts and nobody reported that so i think that we have got do better job of looking out for these individuals, looking for these indicators and warnings and it seems that there is also a mental illness component too the
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shooter and that's something else that we need to be focusing on as well. just the same as in buffalo. >> lawrence: that's a perfect segway lieutenant colonel. i have been speaking with my sources all day and can i confirm under dps the texas rangers will be leading this investigation. of course they will have the support of the fbi and the local municipalities. how much confidence do you have in the texas department of public safety, texas rangers specifically, the premier law enforcement agency in texas that they will get answers for this community? >> well, i have the utmost confidence they will do that. this is a tragedy that should never have happened. if you go back and remember the church shooting in south land springs. this is an individual that should have never been able to acquire a firearm because he had gotten a dishonorable discharge from the united states air force because of the domestic violence case. he was a felon. but, yet, the air force never reported that and so, therefore,
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he was not in the system. so i think we need to start checking the systems that we have out there and making sure that we are reporting individuals just the same as nikolas cruz back there in parkland, there were 21 call outs to his home yet nothing was ever done. we need to have those proactive assessments that are out there. and i'm not talking about this, you know, red flag or things of this nature, but we need to have people within the community that are saying here is a troubled young person. we need to make sure that we're doing what is necessary to get them the help but also to protect those that are vulnerable in our communities. >> lawrence: yeah. so true. lieutenant colonel allen west, thank you so much for joining the program today. >> it's my pleasure. my heart goes out to these families as a father and a grandfather. >> lawrence: yes, sir. thank you so much. ainsley and will, the lieutenant colonel makes an interesting
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point. and this is we continue to hear from after these incidents. they were on a watch list. we saw there were warning signs. i'm so tired of. that is like when are we going to stop watching and do more doing? it seems like the attacks keep happening. >> will: you know, lawrence a very natural reaction is to try to reach out and grab some sense of control. that leads a lot of people -- that leads them to partisanship and political issues which i think shonel a real sign of a character flaw if your first instinct is to blame. that shouldn't preclude us to looking for answers and ways to help. i agree you had the interview and i heard colonel west and did he point to something in my mind you are right, signs, social media. we have to be able to do more to protect our schools. meaning can we put someone in place in every single school that is there to protect our children? you on hear logistics or money is a reason why it can't be
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done. it isn't hard for me to look around and see where we are spending gobsz of money. $40 billion sent to ukraine. covid, we just spent tons of money protecting our schools when it comes to code of it i believe isn't spent yet. we can do things. lawrence, maybe we can identify through social media with red flags. i do think it's logistically difficult to constantly comb social media and decide who is and isn't a real threat. it doesn't mean it's impossible. but we can do more to protect our children inside of these places of mass gatherings. inside of schools. >> ainsley: remember this bore tech unit and border agents responded to this they responded. unfortunately 21 were killed. how many more would have killed if they had not been there and close by to respond? the local law enforcement officials reached out to border patrol and said if anyone is close by, please go and respond. and a border patrol agent was the one who took down the
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suspect and killed the suspect. they say he was bare scared inside the school. the agents were there to help save these lives there were 08 border patrol agents that responded. police officers responded. they were trying to take the children out of the school and reunite them with their parents who were outside. lawrence. >> lawrence: can you tell this suspect. he went after his grandmother that tells you who goes after their grandmother. if you looking at the scene the truck was skill in the ditch. he was clearly out of control, he was clearly clearly on the rampage. the question is whether a are we going to do going forward to honor these victims, a and number two, make sure it doesn't happen again? kids are precious. i'm not blessed enough yet like you guys to have children. but i have a god baby and i know what i feel about her we got to do better as the a society.
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will, you are right. we don't know from a legal perspective what we can do to get these suspects off the street. there is a legal standard there. there we will have that debate in the coming days. guys, the least we can do is make sure there is a cop at every single school, retired military somebody there that lets gunmen know when you try to enter in a school, you are going to be method with the same amount of force that's what should happen every single school. >> ainsley: you might not be a father but you are a human being. we all have a heart for children, animals, anyone who could hurt them are purely evil. we thought our top story was going to be elections unfortunately live it's the shooting to texas. now to the other story we have been watching. busy primary across five states key races in alabama, arkansas, georgia, minnesota and texas. >> will: griff jenkins is live in washington with the take away. >> griff: good morning, guys. big night for primary results.
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got race board starting in the peach state. governor brian kemp will face off against democrat stacey abrams for the second time after soundly defeating trump-backed senator david perdue. kemp hammering abrams last night for calling georgia the worst place to live. watch. >> georgia will never be on stacey's mind because her priorities are our priorities. her is meant to please people in new york, california, and chicago who are funding her campaign. >> griff: in the senate race there trump backed football star herschel walker delivering big time. can you see challenge progressive democrat raphael warnock. >> but, if you speak out, they will cancel you out they are force you out of your job. they will cancel you. these people call themselves progressives. but this isn't progressive. this is self-destruction. >> in arkansas former white house spokesperson sarah
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huckabee sanders winning in a landslide taking the g.o.p. nomination for governor. >> you know when i worked in the white house no one ever cheered when i went up to the podium. [laughter] this is different. >> griff: senate race john cruising to the g.o.p. nod there now, down in texas. trump-backed attorney general ken paxton holds on defeating land commissioner george p. bush but it was too close to call in the democrat house primary between aoc backed jennifer cisneros and henry cuellar who found controversy when the fbi raided his home. finally in alabama, they are headed to a runoff as well in the g.o.p. senate primary. katie britt and mo brooks will face off in what is already the most expensive senate race in alabama's history. will, ainsley? >> will: griff, thank you so much. we will keep our eye on that
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throughout the morning. >> ainsley: too close to call, what happens next? recount? >> todd: which one? >> ainsley: cisneros vs. cuellar. she is progressive and is he democrat but is he pretty moderate. >> will: lawrence is with us from uvalde. we will keep an eye on that alll morning there was a race last night in exit. cuellar but also attorney general ken paxton was in a run off against george p. bush. paxton one for attorney general of texas. he has also been addressing this horrific tragedy in texas well he was on "fox & friends" this morning where he talked about what happened in uvalde. >> my people are already down there. we had an election yesterday and i was dealing with that this was a really tough day for texans. we obviously all suffer together when we lose some of our people like this.
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i feel pain for them knowing what it would be like to lose our own children. we are definitely thinking about those families. we are praying for those families. we care about those families as fellow texans. >> ainsley: crime is such an issue in all of our communities. this is something that will definitely be on the forefront of all of our minds when we go to vote in november we will be listening to all of these candidates to find out how they want to approve the safety in our schools. lawrence? lawrence the attorney general is going to have a big role in this the investigative agency the texas department of public safety and texas rangers are actually under the governor's office the texas attorney general also manages all the victim compensation funds, all the resources for the state when national tragedies and state tragedies like this happen. a lot of resources these families are going to need. not just the families that are impacted by losing their loved
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ones, it's all of those kids in that school that witnessed that. they are going to need counseling. their family members are going to need counseling. some of the family members will have to rebuild their lives. so often after the television cameras leave. the community is left to rebuild by themselves the attorney general's office is going to be very crucial for their rebuilding process will and ainsley. will willing lawrence, as we attempt to find ways to move forward as you point out pointed out do something to help control, alleviate. make better this problem. we will talk about logistical tangible. red flag laws. be together for hours throughout the morning. something is plaguing young men in this country. >> lawrence: so true. >> will: carley pointed this out on "fox & friends first." almost always young men. talking about the perpetrators. often teenage young men there
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are something we are failing young men with. i don't know. it's deep. it's cultural, it's a rot, but it is beyond worthy. it is imperative that we figure out what we have done that we have lost young men, many young men in this country and i don't believe we will find solutions real complete solutions until we address that root issue. >> ainsley: yeah, a lot of it is social media related i believe. we are seeing warning signs from these shooters on social media and websites. we need to pay attention to that and see those red flags early on. sources telling fox news it was a border patrol agent who shot and killed the teenage gunman stopping the terror. fox news contributor and retired acting ice director tom homan joins us now. thank you for joining us, tom. you have been on the forefront of law enforcement there in texas for decades whether a are your thoughts this morning when you hear all of this news? >> first of all, my heart breaks
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for the parents whose hearts were broken last night. they are never going to be the same what a tragedy. one thing i want to talk about is the border patrol. the border patrol has had a tough year. they get attacked. this administration has attacked horse patrol and how they are doing their job. these men and women are working overtime 24/7 biggest crisis. when they were needed they didn't hesitate to go to that school and face the gunfire. as a matter of fact, border patrol agent that actually neutralized the sung. i will say it again like i always say in this network. the men and women of the border patrol are american heroes. they are part of that community. people need to understand they are part of the fabric of that incident economy. their kids went to that will school. they go to church and grocery stores. they are not just border patrol agents that enforce immigration law. they are part of the community i'm so proud how many responded biggest law enforcement contingency there. i want to say something no one else is talking about.
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my heart breaks for the children and the families. but we have got to remember the first responders. people wonder why i get emotional on network and get emotional when i testify in front of congress the death i have seen in my career men, women and children. i have held a dead child and dying children. i have never been the same after that. that's why i'm emotional of trying to secure the border and save lives. the first responders are never going to be the same either. the men and women who responded and saw the carnage they saw will never be the same either. it affected a lot of lives. i hope some of the first responders seek help. when you see something like that and deal with something like that. they will never ever be the same i hope they get help. >> will: one of the individuals involved in bringing down this shooter was a border patrol special tactical unit officer. i believe my terminology may be off, tom.
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tell us more about that unit and these officers? what are they capable of? what are they normally tasked with? what kind of an individual was this? >> the border tech unit like the swat team. they do an allot of extra training. highest paid agents in the patrol. they respond to life and death situations, barricade situations with a shooting on the border. they respond to that and, you know, for instance, two years ago, if you remember the two prisoners had escaped in upstate new york prison. that were in walking around with shotgun. actually border patrol that responded and tracked that person down and neutralized him because he had a shotgun and was taking on border patrol agents. the men and women of bortech are the highest trained group of law enforcement officers i have met. i have been in law enforcement in 34 years. training is extraordinary. volunteer thing. thank got bortech able to respond. most highly trained people on
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border patrol. finest marks men in law enforcement. training is 24/7. they are always will there and willing to be deployed 24 unit was nearby. at loos one of the border tech guys was able to get from and take the subject off before he killed anyone else. every first responder that showed up think of the lives they saved when they got in there that shooter was not done. god bless them god bless them from saving them from gunfire running toward gunfire when most would not do that god bless the border patrol finest 1% this country has and god bless the first responders that showed up, all of them just covering crime in general. across the country. every single day having the sources on the ground, tom, i can't tell you how many times and you have been in law enforcement for a long time the
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amount of times i hear from law enforcement our hands were tied. we wanted to do something but we could not do something. can you talk about that? >> we all know what's going on the border. they joined try to secure the border and save lives. they are frustrated. so everybody knows. when there is a need and call for action. when there was live gunfire going on. these men and women didn't hesitate to get to that scene and do what they could do. law enforcement, especially just under last couple years been under attack, right in the morale is in the toilet for most law enforcement agencies with all the defund the police. as a matter of fact, there was actually talk about defunding school resource officers. again, law enforcement beaten up for two years but people need to
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understand. even though they have been beaten up and thrown under the bridge, many times and attacked by the left and attacked by the media, when there is a need, they are there and they don't hesitate to respond despite the hatred they have taken the last two years. these men and women, i will say it again, are america's heroes they strap a gun to their hip every day and wear a kevlar vest because they have to. that's the tools of the trade. we have lost a lot of them this last year. they they're to serve and proven it once again. despite all the attacks, when it's time to take action, they won't hesitate to put themselves in harm's way. the law enforcement, my dad was law enforcement officer. my grandfather was a cop. i became a cop. i, you know, the cops are american heroes. i hope once again that this tragedy has proven that they are the finest people out there. >> will: if i may. >> ainsley: sure, go ahead. >> will: on that note just to follow up, tom. i may have missed a detail and i apologize if i have. you would certainly have the expertise, tom. we don't normally see or think
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of border patrol being the frontline on a situation like this. in your estimation, or your knowledge of this situation, tom, uvalde is about 75 miles from the border. we all know the border patrol isn't limited to actions on the, you know, on the border. was this an off duty border patrol officer? was this a deployed unit that got there first before any other federal law enforcement or perhaps the sheriff's department? was it voluntary? did he rush to the scene? how was it your knowledge, tom, ended up being tactical officer border patrol the one to bring an end to this horrible tragedy? >> well, i can tell you a lot of border patrol agents responded. a lot of law enforcement contingency there. the local police department is very small. but you have hundreds of border patrol agents. many of them were on duty. my understanding, talk to my friends in the border patrol the officer actually shot neutralized the suspect was off
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duty. it was just he was nearby. he got his gear and responded. so, you know, thank god he was close by because, again, how many lives tragic how many lives were lost and how many lives will. >> ainsley: hey, tom, so many administrators, superintendents, teachers, parents are watching this program this morning and you have been in law enforcement your entire life. and our schools are going to have meetings, closed door meetings to find out how to secure their schools better. parents are going to be talking. parents are going to want answers because we all fear that this could happen at our child's school. what is your advice with your expertise, what do you tell these administrators? what do you tell these principals about securing their school? one entrance, one exit? armed guard at the school door? what do you advise. >> we need to harden the schools. and we need to have armed school resource officers.
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you know, this country, we are a rich country. we have a lot of men and women in law enforcement. there is no reason -- we have armed officers protecting banks, we have armed officers in our malice. we have armed officers protecting politicians. and to me there is nothing more important than a child. i mean, i have children. and so, why not take -- why not, you know, use unused funds that the federal government has and fund school resource-school resource officers in every school? we can do that. we are the greatest country on earth. these children are precious. they are our treasures. they are much more than money in the bank. now is the time to harden schools. have armed officers at these schools. we can do it. we are great nation. and the parents who send the children to school will now know we have somebody on campus that protect their children and take something. if it happens. and, look, i think it's also
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going to help to repair the relationships between the communities and police officers. the groups that didn't want school resource officers because they are armed. they didn't want guns on campus. we can change that dynamic. we can have these men and women, heroes on campuses protecting the campus, protecting the children and help to rebuild that relationship through community and law enforcement officers. so the first thing i would do is put an armed officer in every school. we would have a lot of retired police officers, a lot of retired military step up in a second to do this. i hope people take this seriously after what we have seen the last couple of years. >> ainsley: tom homan, thank you for joining us this morning. >> will: thank you, tom. >> ainsley: lawrence, did you have another question? >> lawrence: real quickly before we leave, tom. right behind me, they are still processing the scene. although they have removed the bodies out so they can return them to the family members, can you tell me what it's like to pull up to one of those scenes? i got a message from a source
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today said it's the worst thing they have seen ever. what is that like for law enforcement? >> you will never forget. it changes you forever, lawrence. i have found a lot of dead people throughout my career. the one that affected me the most was when i got to a crime scene and i'm walking through a crime scene, 19 dead migrants at my feet, including a 5-year-old little boy that suffocated. and all i could think about what his last hour and 30 minutes were like being strapped in steel box and suffocated to death. i thought about his father who was holding him. his father also died about what he went through his last 30 minutes. and that instant has changed me forever. and that's why i fight so hard to secure the border and try to save lives. that's why i get emotional on this fox network. i get emotional testifying in front of congress. it's personal. when you see something like that you will never ever be the same. when i saw the video coverage last night what is happening in
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uvalde. i laid in bed and thought about the tragedies that i saw. and that's why i mention about first responders and families god bless them. my hearts break for them. they will never be the same. first responders, i have been there. i have had to get help. i'm hoping the first responders that responded last night will seek some help to try to deal with what they saw. >> will: tom, we really appreciate you being with us this morning and sharing not just your analysis but your personal experience as well. thank you so much, tom. >> ainsley: for all do you for your service. >> lawrence: appreciate it, tom. >> ainsley: we will have more from texas coming up. first, authorities make an arrest after a man is randomly shot dead new york city subway and his family's emotional plea to the leaders. ♪ was time for a nunormal with nucala. nucala reduces asthma attacks it's a once-monthly add-on treatment for severe eosinophilic asthma. not for sudden breathing problems. allergic reactions can occur.
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♪ >> will: so a career criminal is arrested after an unprovoked shooting on a new york city subway. killing a goldman sachs employee, the victim's family is
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now making a desperate plea for more to get done to keep criminals off the street. todd piro is live with details. >> andrew abdullah taking into custody after a citywide manhunt. he was busted out attorney's office as they attempted to surrender yesterday. enrique question last weekend and criminal possession of a weapon. with his arrest comes a revelation that he is a career criminal with at least 19 prior arrests including assault, robbery, grand larceny, and an outstanding gun charge from last year. the victim's sister understandably frustrated. >> they keep committing crimes and they keep returning to the same neighborhood and they are violent and they are aggressive. i'm only meeting with the press because i'm pleading that this does not happen to another new yorker. that it does not happen to another family. i don't want my brother just to
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be a passing name in the media. >> todd: enrique's brother-in-law speaking out calling on mayor adams to refocus his priorities. >> i think the big thing is everybody needs to work on priorities. before you go after chocolate milk and plant based vegan based lifestyle options. go to albany. that's not equity when you have more random victims. that's tyranny. and it has to be addressed and stopped. >> todd: mayor adams set to address new york city crime problem in an emergency meeting tomorrow with major business leaders including the ceo's of goldman sachs as well as wells fargo. >> todd: thank you for that tragic story. >> carley: we are going to start with this. fda officials will testify today before house lawmakers. the agency will answer questions on the formula shortage and why it's taking so long to inspect abbott's michigan plant after it was closed last fall due to
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contamination concerns. the clays are reportedly because of fda scheduling conflicts. logistical problems and covid-19. the fda's commissioner is also set to meet with baby formula executives from abbott, reicht and gerber. the abbott plant says it will reopen on june 4th with the first batches of new formula expected to be available around june 20th. et death of george floyd. the "new york times" reporting he will order federal agencies to overhaul their force guidelines and police departments to stop chokeholds and no knock warrants and create a national list of officer discipline form conduct. the will cut back on the transform of military equipment to police. and to a fox news alert now. a moment of silence for the school shooting victims before tipoff at the nba playoff game between the dallas mavericks and
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the warriors. >> our thoughts and prayers are also with the victims of the horrific shooting today at robb elementary school in uvalde, texas. we mourn with their families and friends and the entire community after this unspeakable tragedy. >> carley: after the game warrior star steph curry how the players are dealing with this tragedy. >> i got kids. send them to school every day, drop them off. you feel for the parents that are going through what they're going through. i can't even imagine. it reminds you of how blessed we are to be able to do what we do. >> carley: curry pleased kerr setting the tone among players adding it was hard to stay focused on playing the game. those are your headlines. ainsley, over to you. >> ainsley: carley, thank you. key races taking shape as brian kemp and rafns berger beat trump
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backed. hernl walker endorsed by the former president easily won his senate primary running against five other republicans. what does this all mean for the g.o.p.'s midterm chances? atlanta based radio host erick erickson addressed kemp's re-election party last night and he joins us now. good morning to you, eric. >> good morning. >> ainsley: i know you are a big kemp fan. why do you think he did prevail when you see donald trump he has endorsed 70 plus candidates who have won across the country. >> media wants to make this all about trump some degree it was and about incumbency. donald trump supported a candidate his won. when the incumbent candidate that person already knew that candidate won. kemp has been all over the state as governor. is he is well-known and very like. very conservative there wasn't a reason to ever run anyone against him and his challenger didn't put on a very good race. i mean, the moment david perdue got n december i said this would happen. turned out it would.
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>> ainsley: do you think more people -- we heard a lot yesterday when lawrence was in the diners in georgia that they were voting for kemp because they knew he could beat stacey abrams he had in the past and that was more important to them than choosing a trump backed candidate. >> overwhelmingly there is more of a constituency in georgia about 75% of republicans who want to beat stacey abrams and it 5% who want to re-litigate the 2020 election. >> ainsley: what do you know about stacey abrams and what do you expect in november when she does run against kemp? >> she has never actually been a great candidate. she only won a state house seat that wasn't largely contested. she has never gotten india that despite the national media hype. she didn't win in 2018. in fact she didn't come close to winning. what she came close to was run off. the media said she came close to winning. that wasn't true. she always put her foot in her mouth. 2018 before the election she insulted the ag community south georgia after a hurricane. just this past weekend she said georgia is the worst place to live. she is not the candidate the media says she is. she has believed her own press
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and the press believes it, too. ainsley: what do you make of herschel walker? he won by a landslide beating out all the other republicans and when you look at this senate seat, he is going to be running against raphael warnock in november that senate seat is so important because the senate is 50/50 right now. this is a must win for democrats and republicans. >> it is. walker is going to have a ton thrown at him through his own admissions in the past. if he handles that right with his mental health issues, he is probably the weakest of the republicans who ran. but, at the same time, a weak republican beats joe biden's economy and herschel walker comes from behind and wins football field he is going to do it as well in politics. >> ainsley: do you think republican also take back the senate? >> i actually do think the republican also take back the senate. i think herschel walker wins in georgia laxalt, nevada they flip those two seat they have the senate. >> ainsley: what about the other two states in november. >> listen, democrats are going to run now on the gun issue in light of the issue in texas. they tried running against trump
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january 6th and roe v. wade the supreme court. they goal after guns now. the fundamental problem is americans can't afford to put gas in their car or food on heir table. that dynamic is not changing in november. the white house admits it this is the carter economy returned. >> ainsley: what issues are on the ballot for people in georgia? i know in atlanta people are worried about the crime. but, overall, why do you think people are going to the polls? >> inflation and the economy. listen, governor kemp has created tens of thousands of jobs in georgia with two e.v. plant, electric vehicle pay above average wages. even those people making better than people around them in their neighborhoods are struggling because inflation is so high right now. it's like they have gotten pay cut. >> ainsley: we are all feeling it thank you for joining us, eric. always good to see you. >> thank you, you too. >> ainsley: will? >> will: this morning, parents across the country are grappling with how to explain the horrific texas shooting to their own kids. goth is director of child and
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adolescent counseling and she joins us now. sissy, thanks for being with us. our friends lawrence co-hosting with us this morning brought it up earlier. there will be a lot of counseling needing there in the uvalde in the coming days and years ahead. but that's not to overlook the kind of counseling that will be required simply for somebody watching today. you have got to talk to your kids. explain to then what has happened in this country. how do you do that? >> it is so hard to know how to move forward in these times with kids. and i think there are a few big picture things we want to think about when we are thinking about kids. younger kids are concrete thinkers. and the first thing we want to consider is that we want to be the source. you know, kids are going to be talking about this. they will often get information that's wrong or that is inflated and we want them to hear the truth from us. and so starting to think about being the source and being very concrete to match their thinking. so with younger kids we want to lead with just like one sentence of what happened and then let them ask the questions.
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because, kids have this amazing innate ability that they ask the -- for the information that they're yesterday for. so we start with something like that. and then we let them ask and answer age-appropriately as the conversation moves forward. >> lawrence: sissy, what do you tell the young people, especially the ones that were there but survived? you know, the innocence of a child is to want to do something about it. so, when your child comes to you and say i want to do something about it, what do you tell them? >> well, i think i love that idea that mr. rogers talked about about looking for the helpers. and so thinking about -- kids are grieving anywhere where were the helpers and talk about those people but also how can we be one? we can write notes to the kids that we know were at that school. if they were at the school they could write notes to somebody else that was there as well. i think we can always pray for kids and families and i think moving forward and having a
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sense of purpose really helps us work through grief and an important way for kids and adults alike. >> ainsley: i like how you say just say the one sentence and let them ask questions because you don't want to give them too much informationner really very young. >> yes. >> ainsley: i have a 6-year-old. will, how old are your children your boys? >> will: both in middle school. >> ainsley: he definitely has to have the conversation with his kids? 6-year-old too young? 3rd graders? fourth graders? when do we have the conversation about what happened in texas? >> definitely 8, i think below that we want to think about the places where they are. and being aware of the conversations they might be exposed to. because, again, that idea of being the source. and one thing i want to say in light of that as we are having these conversations, we want to be aware of our own emotions. because kids are very aware and very in tune and sometimes they will either shut down or feel like they have to rise up to take care of us. so, for us to be aware of our own emotions as we are having those conversations is so
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important, too. >> will: sissy, let's speak about emotions for just a second. we talk a lot about the rising state of anxiety among kids. a lot of different factors that play into that rising anxiety. this can't be ignored as one of those corinthing factors. ainsley brings up i have a middle schooler. can i speak from firsthand experience they do something that i never did. i went into tornado drills. i went in to all types of natural disaster drills. they go into active shooter drills. my kids have since they were young. they barricade themselves in classrooms and go to the corner away from the door. this is something that's part of their life. what is this doing to our kids and their emotional state? >> well, we have seen for the past five years rates in anxiety just skyrocketing where we are now one in four kids with girls twice as likely as boys to deal with it one in three adolescents. i think the awareness of that in past years i think just recently what has happened is going to make it worse. i keep thinking about the kids all over the country who are going to school this morning and
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hearing about this and what it is going to be like for them. that is where it feels like it's really important this morning even before school to be talking with kids, praying with them. reminding them of what are tools they know to walk through anxiety because they are going to have to be practicing this morning and moving forward like you all talked about. >> lawrence: sissy, i'm going to ask you a difficult question. because i think it's important for us to focus on these young people that have been impacted by this violence and having this difficult conversation with them. but what about parents detecting things that may be problematic, that their son or daughter could be a potential gunman or do something nefarious in a classroom? how do you spot that? what signs should parents be looking for? >> i think we want to watch for any conversations that sound violent, any words that they are using. a lot of anger, a lot of hatred directed at any kind of group of people or people in general and
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i think we also really want to watch for signs of depression, anxiety, where they are going with that. we want to watch for kids that are withdrawing from other people, with adolescents it's confusing because a lot of what they go through normally can look like depression but for them typically we look for loss of interest they like anyway. that is a concern. any time we see that isolation, we see that sense of hopelessness creeping in oar whole lot of anger and especially if you are aware of them talking about any kind of plan, any kind of off handed remarks, we want to report this to the authorities and do what we can to help those kids to protect all kids. >> ainsley: isisy, i know they are not going to have school any longer this year i believe in the whole district of uvalde. the kids are going to need counseling. i have two questions. what do you say to them because we have a lot of viewers in texas. their kids might be at the school or in that district.
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what do those parents say to these kids and then what is the conversation that we have with our children? do we say there is evil out there but you are good? god has good plans for your life? we are praying for protection? what is the conversation? >> i think we say you're safe. we're going to keep you safe. that's our job as parents. we start there. i think it's important to even say because elm kids are going to have really big questions spiritually in these moments. and we're going to feel like because we want to take care of them that we have to have the answers. we don't. none of us have answers in these moments but to say god is sad, is he grieving. he loves those kids. he loves those teachers and help them understand he is with us in it and if they are in a situation where they feel fearful to talk about what do they have control of? what do they know in that particular place and we will get to you a place where we can talk about it. we are not experts as your mom and dad but we want you to have people that are. that can help you talk through this. it's part of our job is to provide support for you.
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>> will: i can almost hear the conversation. i think i might have had the conversation, sissy. they will seek that reassurance that they are safe. still the next question will be why. why does this happen? they will look just like all of us sitting here today. looking for an explanation of how this type of evil exists. they will ask why. and their parents will not -- we as a nation are going to have double answering that question much less a parent talking to ewing child. >> and i don't think there is an answer. other than i mean i think what you said, we could point to there is evil in the world. i think we can also point to there are people who are really sick in the world. and something was wrong. for this to have taken place and we can do all we can, again, i think with kids we want to shift them. they are so concrete that they're going to ask those big questions but they are not going to stay there. so we shift them back toward the practical and what they can control because that's going to help them anchor to a place of safety. >> ainsley: well, that's great advice. what about the schools? what do schools need to do when
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they are talking to these children? i know you are not in law enforcement but we're talking -- we're having conversations about locking the doors and maybe metal detectors we know some schools here in new york have metal detectors. what is your advice to the administrators, to the superintendents that do have to face these kids and to the teachers? >> i think we need to be aware that kids are very transient in their emotions. they are going to be all over the place. even when we think about anxiety with kids. it looks really different with different kids. for some kids it looks more like anger. some kids are going to be more teary and sad and grieving. we will notice that some kids will have a lot of recurring tummy aches and headaches at this point. being aware of all of those things with kids and really dialed in that we are aware that all behavior is communication for kids. being aware of what might be underneath their behavior and layering in a lot of counselors. i think for schools to bring in added counselors that can be
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available for kids at any time and normalize that for those kids. we want to have a lot of people around who are safe and who are available to talk to you at any point. we would love to provide you with that help. >> will: all right. sissy gov, thank you so much for being with us "fox & friends" and helping us address a difficult conversation. >> thank you for having me. >> ainsley: thank you so much. >> will: straight to a fox news alert. tragedy in texas 19 children and 2 teachers shot. the had happened two days before the end of the school year. this morning we are learning the names of some of those killed. xavier lopez was a fourth grader just 10 years old. he accepted an award at the school with his mother just hours before the shooting. the associated press reports 8-year-old uziah garcia is also among the dead. two teachers were also killed
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including eva morales who spent nearly two decades at the school district. >> ainsley: sources telling fox news the suspected shooter, there he is right there, 18-year-old salvador ramos was shot and killed by a border patrol agent from a specialized unit called the bortech unit. they are elite team of border patrol agents. an emotional president biden just hours after the tragedy. >> i had hoped when i became president i would not have to do this, again. another massacre. and how many scores of little children who witnessed what happened seen their friends die. >> ainsley: biden is also offering, quote: any and all assistance to texas governor greg abbott. across the country you are going to see flags flying at half-staff to honor all of those
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victims. we are also joined by lawrence jones who is down in uvalde. the three of us are co-anchor the show. and lawrence got a plane quickly drove all through the night to try to get there to uvalde so you could tell us what is happening. tell us more, lawrence. >> lawrence: yeah, ainsley and will. because of plane delays, because of the weather we divided to make that drive down here and i was talking to sources back and forth the entire trip some agent say this was one of the worst crime scenes they have ever dealt with they are going to be leading this investigation. the suspect's truck is still on the scene. we found out this morning they have now because you may have heard some of the reports in the middle of the night of some families saying they haven't been notified. that is complete now.
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all families have been notified about their loved ones. all of the bodies have been removed from the crime scene that is behind me. texas rangers are taking the lead on the investigation they continue to process the scene. there is a shift change dps is guarding the perimeter to make sure they stay secure the evidence that is here our focus this morning is on the victims. the stories of the agents. the border patrol agents that came to rescue. special operations unit that took out the killer eva one of the teachers of fourth graders that shielded her students. we are learning that she tried to call 911 and the shooter said accords to her grandmother i'm going to kill you all. t. is a tragedy here today. still a lot of unanswered
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questions. we are going to be teachers and young lives and heroes. >> will: i got a text from friend in texas i don't know how to send my kids to school this morning. you start exactly appropriately in the right place. focus on the victims. the names we already learned of these impossibly young kids who have now been lost to what is a growing national tragedy metastasizing problem. we also need to look and i think it's appropriate to look at the heroes involved in this. lawrence, you point out the teachers, ainsley, you point out the border patrol special agents and appears in this area of texas uvalde is not a big town. border patrol presence there 57 miles from the border. all hands on deck. call went out officer volunteered. ran to the scene and took down this shooter. we honor those first responders
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try to bring an end and successfully bring an end to this horrible national tragedy and then there is us, okay? then there is us how we solve this going forward and we have begun this conversation. i will just say for me i say in the 1980s we wondered why serial killers were proliferating and we created the behavioral science unit at the fbi. we need have a psychological profile. we need to understand why this is happening and why this is growing and secondarily then why young men are losing their way meaning and purpose and spirituality, community, it is a growing problem. almost always young men and we have to figure out how we have failed young men in this country and then, ainsley, there is actually what we can do inside of schools to make our children more safe. >> ainsley: that's exactly right. we wonder they don't just want to harm themselves or in many cases they will turn the gun on themselves. they want to harm yntd individuals. children. how anyone could do that these children just did what our kids are doing every day.
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going to school trying to become smarter hanging out with their friends. hanging out for the summers. xavier just 10 years old he couldn't wait to get out of school he wanted a summer swimming. his mother was there with him at the award ceremony in school. there is his picture. look how darling he is just before he was killed and she was there to watcher him i assume accept the award. and his cousin said it was the last time she would see her son alive. there is uziah garcia 8 years old. we put up his picture he is the one in the nike shirt. he loved gaming and playing basketball with fans. his aunt primary guardian nikki jackson. she said they took news a room and started calling us out one by one and we gave him his picture. that's when they told us he didn't make it there are other children that we don't have the names or the names have not been confirmed. there is eva morales, she is the fourth grade teacher.
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she works for the uvalde school district for 17 years. in her 40's. there is her picture. her daughter is in college. think of all the lives she has influenced in her 17 years and being a mother. her daughter now will not have her mother there at her wedding. and when she has children one day because of this evil act that this suspect, this 18-year-old guy did. and her neighbor said she was just the sweetest. she would take her dog out and say hi, her husband is a police officer. and they are very nice people. her neighbor says. she loved running and she loved hiking. lawrence, i just wanted to take some time to remember the people that lives were cut short. >> lawrence: it's so fitting, ainsley. we don't want to give the killer more attention. even though he is dead. we don't want-that's what they want. there is an exclusive club though, ainsley of people that have been impacted by tragedies like this.
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so often we need wisdom on how to keep these kids safe. carlos gimenez who used to be the mayor of miami-dade dealt with the parkland situation. he diswroind us on "fox & friends first" and had some words. take a look. >> the things we did immediately after parkland i ordered all police officers to make sure that every single school in miami-dade county had an armed police officer in it. that continues to this day. the state and the school board did a great job in hardening all of the schools and single point of entry. on top of that, every single police officer in miami-dade on the street has assault rifle and enhanced body armor and we also created a priority response team of 50 police officers that their sole mission is actually responding to active shooters. once we took the steps. nobody said a word about the cost. it costs about $20 million about half way through our fiscal year it didn't mart. we needed to protect our children. that's what we need to do. that's what we need to do around the country.
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>> will: this is something we can do lawrence and ainsley. this is something that we can actually accomplish. it seems, you would think, to rise above partisan divide. you know, the president of the united states did offer heart felt condolences last night. he also did then turn to partisan political issues. we don't want to have a divided states of america today. we want a united states of america. i have to think protecting our schools is something we can and should be able to unify around. we have unspent covid money. covid is an example of when we face the national crisis we did what it takes to fund retrofitting our schools. ventilation. by the way, again, not all that money is spent. why? why can we not do something to protect our schools from a problem that we all acknowledge is growing? lieutenant colonel allen west was on with lawrence earlier. he talked about the way we go about protecting other aspects of our society. why not schools? >> evil came to that community. one of the things that i think we have to start asking
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ourselves is that why do you see sporting venues or entertainment venues or a place like the academy awards. they are more secure it than our schools. we have got to do better at protecting those that are most vulnerable in our society and in our communities and that's at our schools. we need to have people within the community that are saying here's a troubled young person. we need to make sure that we're doing what is necessary to get them the help but also to protect those that are vulnerable in our communities. >> ainsley: he brings up a good point. we spend lots of money. the hollywood crew, the elite spent a lot of money to guard those red carpets. you can't get near thee celebrities. aren't our young children as important as they're. tom homan was the acting ice director under donald trump. is he retired now and he is a fox news contributor. he was on our show in the first hour talking about the first responders. and the border patrol agents who responded. he said that the bortac u unit
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elitist most trained in the group. he said they came rush in. law enforcement was involved. local law enforcement was involved. also there was a border patrol agent that was very close by. and went into this school. and walked in and i believe that fourth grade classroom was right at the front entrance of the school which is where most of this took place where the kids were jumping out of windows and going to hide nearby at the funeral home just to get away from the shooter. but tom homan addresses those first responders that we really need to remember they were heroes there were 80 of them that responded to get those kids in touch with their parents outside ever the school. listen to tom. >> this unit, thank god, was nearby, so at least one of the bortac guys were able to get in there and take the subject out before he killed anybody else. every first responder showed up. think of the lives they saved if when they got in there because that shooter was not done. so god bless him. god bless him for facing gunfire. running toward gunfire when most
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citizens would not do that once again, i will say it again on this network three years god bless the border patrol. this is the finest 1% this country has. >> lawrence: god bless law enforcement. it is something that we will never understand going in to process a crime scene to gather loved ones and have to reunite them with their loved one that has been shot and killed. to have to process a crime scene. it is truly heart breaking some of the stories that i'm hearing from sources. the last thing i would say before i bring in the sheriff, you know, so often when we are having these conversations, we don't want to get into a partisan debate. but, in order for change to happen, it does have to go through the political process. and so often this moment just passes us by. we say we remember the loved ones, we say it will never happen again. but we don't really do something and so, you know, will and
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ainsley, i think we have had some great conversations. i just hope our leaders do something about it. and the safety of the school, making sure there are armed guards there that we support the law enforcement officers being there as the last line of defense. teachers shouldn't have to be human shields when we can have real law enforcement there, with an actual shield and a piece of steel to defend those schools, so, i just hope that we pick up that conversation through legislative process as we go. let's bring in king county sheriff brad koch he sent his deputies to respond to the neighboring uvalde county. thanks for being on the program. tell us what happened yesterday when you sent your sheriff deputies to respond to the scene. >> good morning. yesterday i got a call from my chief deputy.
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he had heard over the radio there was an active shooter situation in uvalde. i didn't hesitate. i said roll that day and send two additional deputies from kenny county and sent deputies from galveston county down here to help us. we sent a total of five or six people over there to assist uvalde county. >> lawrence: tell us and i don't want you to get into the investigation. explain to us because we were just talking about law enforcement and what you guys have to do? immediately secure that scene tell us the aftermath being there to support the local department of public safety and law enforcement there on the ground what that do d. to your deputies. >> i have been talking to my deputies through the night. they are extremely upset. they are -- we are going to have to have some serious counseling on this. it's something that we train for. something that we pray to god we never have to encounter
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yesterday my deputies encountered it. >> will: lawrence, i know you are in kenny county right next door to uvalde county. i'm curious about the timeline when you first heard about the incident. there was aid needed in uvalde, i'm curious the timeline of when you first got that call to the point at which the situation was, i don't know the right word to use resolved in hand, when the shooter was taken down. i'm curious about how long this entire situation played out. >> for my team, we responded immediately as soon as we got word. over the course of the day, we were hearing various reports, i mean, of course 90% of it we did not put out because we didn't
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have the true numbers. we didn't have the facts. it wasn't until late yesterday afternoon that i finally got all the information. of course not being on scene, i wasn't privy to all of that and i'm not even going to question how long it took the information to get out. that's all in uvalde's hands. we are praying for them. i'm just part of the back field trying to support them any way i can. >> will: i'm curious how long -- was if an hour long? i'm curious how long this went on. how long he was inside the school if you have any information on. that was how long this entire tragedy unfolded. >> i don't have the information exactly how long it took inside. how long was inside the school. >> will: okay. >> i know several hours before i finally got all the information. >> will: got it. >> ainsley: can you paint the picture what they saw without being too graphic? i'm sure they saw the worst of the worst when you see children that have been killed. but, was the fourth grade
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classroom we are reading you walked in the school the fourth grade classroom was close to the front door that's where the active shooter walked in first. kids were jumping out of the windows. what did they tell you? what happened? can you paint the picture for us and tell us what their encounters were were the parents, what stories they herd? >> >> of course i didn't get into a whole lot of the details with the deputies. i know one of my deputy was assisting in identifying the bodies. he has got kids that age. excuse me. it was tough on him. i have got him set up. is he going to see a counselor today and tomorrow. and got to get him right so we can protect the kids here in kinney county. >> lawrence: sheriff, we can hear the emotion in your voice. you know, law enforcement, we entrust you guys go in there and
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deal with these situations. you guys aren't will appreciated enough for taking those sacrifices and tolls. what are you plan on doing for law enforcement officers that have to go through that? will counseling be provided for them? this is something that they will never forget. >> we will have counseling for them. i will stay in touch with them. i see them every day. have to check on aid, well being, mental status. my phone line is open to them 24/7 it always has been since i took office. one of the things we are looking at is additional training for the deputies in a scenario like this. we do train two or three times a year in case something like this ever happens here. >> ainsley: sheriff, what do we tell our children? is there anything they can do if they are in this situation? >> >> i visit with the kids all the
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time here in kinney county. truth. this can happen. we try to prepare them. what to do but we are talking children, kids, who may not comprehend it but we have to tell them the truth. >> ainsley: what do we tell them if they are in this situation and an active shooter god forbid ever walked in their classroom, what do they do? >> we told them we have been through some scenarios, put on presentations. seek cover if you have to leave the building, run. we'll find you later. we have some areas they can run to if they are caught. run to the local grocery store, the baptist street across the street. anywhere that they can hide to keep them from being injured. >> lawrence: sheriff coe thank you so much for what you are doing for the country and the deputies. you will definitely be in our
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prayers this morning. >> thank you all. god bless you all. >> ainsley: god bless you too. >> lawrence: god bless you, too. ainsley and will can you hear the emotion in the sheriff's voice. this is the part of the tragedy that's not talking about. yes we will continue all morning to highlight as you beautifully did, ainsley, the victims' stories. we will also highlight the heroes, the teacher eva who used her body as a shield. we will highlight the border patrol agents that is responsible special response unit that appeared on the scene that took out the gunman. but we also have to talk about the aftermath and the emotion that these sheriff deputies local municipalities and the texas department of public safety will be dealing with as they process this scene. >> will: you can hear. first responder, but obviously also a human. >> ainsley: he got choked up. >> will: you can hear that as well. okay, we will be seeking more details and sharing them throughout morning as well. looking forward to what we can
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actually do to try to resolve or alleviate these horrific situations. >> ainsley: we will see flags flying at half-staff across the country today. remember these two children and teachers. >> will: carley shimkus is with us with additional headlines. >> carley: we will begin with a fox news alert. actor and uvalde resident matthew mcconaughey reacting to the statement in his hometown writing in a statement once again we have tragically proven we are failing to be responsible for the rights our freedom grant us. action must be taken so that no parent has to experience what the parents in uvalde and others before them have endured. mcconaughey reportedly says he supports the second amendment but believes in common sense gun reform. he has been inundated with messages asking him to travel to uvalde. one social media user saying quote this is your hometown. these are your people. the shooting expected to dominate today's confirmation hearing for president biden's nominee to lead the atf.
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steve dettelbach just received key endorsement from the national association last night urging lawmakers to confirm him. the hearing is set for 10:00 a.m. before the senate judiciary committee. listen to this. the federal agents foil an isis plot to assassinate former president george w. bush. iraqi citizen living in columbus, ohio reportedly traveled to dallas in november to take footage of the former president's home. he also planned to smuggle other terrorists into the country through the southern border to help him carry out that attack. according to the doj charging documents, he launched a plot in retaliation for iraqi deaths during operation iraqi freedom. that man has been arrested and charged. california gas prices in some areas soaring past federal minimum wage. the federal minimum is $7.25 per hour. gas buddy reporting stations in the bay area. southern california and the
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yovment region yosemite charging past that $6.06. that's the highest in the country. those your headlines will over to you. >> carley: you are welcome. >> will: nation reeling after 19 children and two teachers fatally shot inside heir texas school. fox news contributor charlie hurt is with us this morning. charlie, as you see this news unfold yesterday and you wake up with it again this morning. what are your thoughts? >> it's just -- it's, you know, unspeakably heart breaking. there are no words. it's a tragedy of proportions we can't even marks you know. i mean, can you imagine what it must be like to be those parents? obviously, you know, we all say a prayer for them and we say a prayer thanking the incredible courage of the teachers and the officers, the responding officers who risked their lives
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to probably save even more children from unspeakable carnage. >> will: yeah. you know, charlie, it's natural for us all to look for some semblance of control. some semblance of solution in the face of these horrific incidents. >> . >> will: where can we -- we clearly have a metastasizing problem. a growing problem in this country. what can we do about it? >> you know, i mean, not to oversimplify it but obviously there is extraordinary evil that we see play out in a situation like this. clearly there is a real mental illness problem that we are not addressing. and not to oversimplify it but we need to get to know one another. people need to put their phones down and get to know the person next to them. and in this case, you know, the shooter's family.
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i'm interested in knowing more about what they knew about this kid. obviously he was deeply troubled. there is something very, very wrong with him. he had -- you know that evil in his heart took over him and cost the lives of these children. and, you know, you can't get to know people if your nose is buried in your phone all the time. or, you know, you are online all the time. you have to get to know people. i feel like, to me, that's the biggest sort of failure in our country today where people are just not getting to know the people that are right next to him whether it's your neighbor or son or grandson or whatever it is. we need to get to know each other. and when we see that there is something wrong with somebody, we need to sort of engage them and figure out, you know, what's wrong and get them help and try to help them. and but that doesn't happen if we're not engaging with one another. >> will: i don't think that's
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oversimplified, charlie. i think you are pointing somewhere in there at the root of the problem where we have lost ourselves spiritually. we have lost a sense of meaning. lost a sense of community and connection. and ultimately the only way we can really resolve these issues is on an individual and a small community basis. but there still leaves the larger community and that will inevitably mean political. i'm curious as you focus on themental health crisis. people who look at red flag laws or something like that or look to social media could law enforcement or the school or anyone have known or seen these types of things happening? those are very difficult flags to -- even though there will be something there will be something on his social media in realtime there is something on a lot of people's social media, right? so what can we do as a larger community politically? >> yeah. and i think that you raise a great point and obviously when you get into predicting problems that should prevented somebody from having certain rights, you
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get into very -- we don't predict criminals. that doesn't work. and that's where the sort of limitation of a lot of these laws comes in. but, whether a there aren't limitations on is getting to know one another and figuring out how somebody is troubled. and what is wrong with them. and engaging them in trying to sort of figure out because, you know, laws can't solve everything. governments can't solve everything as we see here. and you hear people talk about common sense gun raws and i agree with that but we have common sense gun laws. if you are a felon, you are not allowed to have a gun. and, you know, so in this political environment, when -- where you have an administration that has focused on either not enforcing crimes or attacking police for different reasons i don't think that's particularly helpful worse tendency in this
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situation is to try to politicize them to reach for solutions that aren't -- that are not real solutions. that don't fix anything. and that's, to me, the most troubling part of it. at a time when, you know, we really do, you know, it's why you pray, you know? >> will: no doubt. >> we all feel so helpless. there is not a single person in america who wouldn't give anything to have prevented this or to fix the problem. >> will: i think that's really well said, charlie, i appreciate that i do want to turn -- it would have been the top story of the day. it's not. it can'ting ignored as well that's the political primaries that took place yesterday across the country. most notable probably in georgia where governor brian kemp won in a massive margin over former senator david perdue. he is now scheduled to beat
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stacey abrams. he herschel walker the nominee in that state. also throw on your plate ken paxton in the state of texas winning again as attorney general against george p. bush. >> yeah. well, you know, there is a lot of speculation about what this means in terms of former president trump's hold over the republican party. and i kind of find it somewhat of a comical discussion. because obviously we can sit here and look at places like, you know, in georgia where president trump had endorsed david perdue over brian kemp over the issues the voting issues in georgia. well, you know, if you step back, first of all, president trump has a tremendous record across the country, including last night, of the candidates he has endorsed going on to win. but, more importantly, the entire message of all of these candidates is -- you know, president trump has so altered the issues, the face, the platform of the republican
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party you know, in pennsylvania, for example, you had three candidates, all of whom running on a trump running on a trump aa first agenda. maybe trump's candidate doesn't always win but his issues keep winning. they win every single time. obviously you had the other issue in georgia about elections. and president trump is right about this. we don't have a republic. we don't have a democracy if we don't have fair and secure elections. and we have clearly had problems with elections. but, and he is right to talk about those things. but, at the end of the day, it's those underlying issues and, brian kemp did a very good job of talking about these things. that matter and these are the issues that president trump brought to the table. those are the issues that really get people out to vote. those are the things people really care about more than and both parties have neglected it for a very long time. i think a lot of people in
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georgia looked at david perdue for example and saw a guy who just lost. they want somebody who is going to win and they want somebody who is going to win against stacey abrams and they put as you point out massively went for brian kemp to be the guy to beat her again. >> will: well over 50 points. charlie hurt, yeah, thank you for being with us this morning. thank you, charlie. >> great to see you, will. >> will: ainsley, over to you. >> ainsley: thank you, will. this morning texas parents desperately waiting on word of their children after 19 were killed along with two teachers in their elementary school. lawrence told us all the parents do know now if their children are victims. >> will: "fox & friends weekend" co-host rachel campos-duffy just returned from this very area, uvalde, texas. and she joins us now. rachel, glad to have you with us this morning. as i wake up, what's your reaction? >> good morning to all of you. and, yeah, when i woke up this morning. my heart was so heavy.
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i couldn't help putting myself in the shoes of those parents to go what would it be like to wake up this morning knowing what had just happened yesterday? it's just -- it's just unimaginable. and, yes, i was just in uvalde just like lawrence and i spoke with the mayor there. and this community was already overwhelmed with what was happening because of the open border policies that were impacting the town. the mayor had told me that, you know, everyone is packing heat. they are carrying guns. if children play outside, they will be outside with their children and they will have a gun. because things were just not the same. since with all these, you know, illegal immigration coming through their town. and so, i just can't imagine that on top of it, and i really want to commend all three of you for great show today. really helping everyone put things in perspective. especially for your guests. sissy goff from day star
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counseling what wonderful advice she gave about age-appropriate conversations to have with your children so proud she brought up prayer. the spiritual is ha we ignored as a culture. will, you talked about the hopelessness in america and so many young people and young men in particular. and i don't think that it is not coincidental that all of these shootings have happened at the same time that we see religion and christian values and judeo christian values declining in our country. our faith gives us hope. something is happening with young people. and i remember asking ever since the time of dillon klee bold and eric harris and columbine why we haven't asked more deeper questions about what was happening in that family with those children. we never really get to the bottom and we see studies about shrimps on treadmills think
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about the money wasted on covid in schools. get to the bottom of what is happening in american families and with young men as you mentioned, will. we have to get to those answers instead of the easy answers. there is no substitute for families. government is a very poor substitute for that. >> lawrence: rachel, you make such a great point. and you noted that sissy goff was on the program earlier. here is a clip from that program earlier. take a look. >> want to be the source. kids are going to be talking about this. they will often get information that's wrong or that is inflated. and we want them to heart truth from us. kids are going to have really big questions spiritually in these moments. and we're going to feel like because we want to take care of them that we have to have the answers. we don't. none of us have answers in these moments. but to say god is sad. is he grieving, he loves those kids, he loves those teachers.
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>> lawrence: rachel, you have really smart children. you have beautiful children. what do you say to your children? obviously you are a woman of faith right here in uvalde, this there is crosses everywhere. churches everywhere. it was such an uplifting moment as i was battling what i'm going to say on air just to see some symbols of faith this morning. so what do you tell your kids? >> rachel: by the way, that is a 90% hispanic school. i can tell you that hispanics are people of faith. and you can be sure that that is what they are clinging on to. last night, when my kids had questions and we all sat around in the living room and we talked about it, we prayed. we prayed for those families. we prayed for those children. and we prayed for our country because a godless country is not the kind of country we want to live. in i think it depends on each one of us to bring home and love to the world and we start with our own families. i think we try to grapple this problem.
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it's too big. it's too overwhelming. just start with your own little children. your grandchildren. your nieces, your nephews and that's where we start. we have to start rebuilding this country and we turn to god. this nihilism, this lack of hope and break down in families many families broken down because of drug addiction. there are a lot of problems in our country. we can start with prayer. and we can start with prayer and our families. >> ainsley: rachel, i can't agree with you more. i remember after 9/11 anne graham lotz was on "the today show" and she was being interviewed why is god allowing these bad things to happen to good people and she said as a country, we have taken down -- we have taken down any bibles. we have taken down any religious information in our schools we have asked god to get out of our lives and god has done that because god is a gentleman. god is always standing at the
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door ready for you to open it and invite him into your life but she said you can't take him out of our lives and then ask where he was when we need him. so, i agree with you that families and individuals out there that have a void in their heart, god is the answer to that god can fill that and change you. and change your life and turn you into a better person. but this is pure evil. anyone that can do this they obviously don't value human life. because no one could point a gun at a child and pull the trigger. it is just unconscionable. we cannot even wrap our heads around this. what did your conversation look like with your children when y'all prayed, god bless you for doing that you are raising your children the right way. what did they ask you and what were your responses? >> rachel: you know, they ask why would someone do this? how old were they? they had really, you know, basic questions. i'm sure that today will actually be more interesting because they will go to school and the children will talk with other children. and then we'll have to make sure that we have another
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conversation to process that. but, you know, our duty as parents is to instruct our children, start small, start with your own kids. and then move on up. but, you are so right, ainsley. we took god out of schools and we wonder how this evil comes. in we have left a vacuum there in the lives of so many children. that's why i was so grateful that you had this counselor on who was unafraid to talk about spirituality and really our country as a whole. just dissending, we are living in a time of unprecedented. the repercussions ever that on families a wave of things. there is a lot to be done but we can start with god and appreciate you guys so much. i consider you guys my family, too. and so blessed to work with all three of you. >> will: rachel, you always do a good job of getting to the heart
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of the issue. you have once again this morning. i share your sentiment. i think it's unanimous now. >> ainsley: absolutely. >> lawrence: yeah. >> will: nihilism loss of meaning. we can't effectuate change but it is as much prayer as it is policy. it is as much in your home as it is at the ballot box. and more so in your home. than the ballot box. rachel thank you for cutting straight to the issue. >> rachel: thank you so much. >> ainsley: thank you, rachel. god bless you. >> will: uvalde is part of tony gonzales' district and he joins us next. but new preparation h soothing relief spray is the 21st century way to do all three. even touch free. preparation h. get comfortable with it. i'm steve. i lost 138 pounds in 9 months on golo and taking release. golo saved my life. i was way overweight, and that's what sent me down the path,
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thank you for joining the program this morning under these unfortunate circumstances right here. sir, this is your area district. we are all mourning with you today. what is your message for your people? >> yeah. good morning, lawrence. thank you for having me. you know, i spent 20 years in the military and war and carnage and death is not a new topic to me but it is very different when you have to deal with it at home. and when you are talking with at children. yesterday my district is very large. i was on the other side of the district i was in el paso yesterday. i had all night. i drove all night to get on this side of the district and i had time to process and what it reminds -- we will hear about all the failings and all the people that have died. but we can't forget the survivors. and there are a lot of survivors that are hurting right now. i'm a father of six. and i'm thinking hey, as a parent, as a father, what can i do to protect my family? i would urge everybody regardless of where you are
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small town, big city, call your school, talk to principal. ask them what are their policies for active shooter. what are things your children can do to protect themselves as well? >> ainsley: com, i know that you -- thank you for driving through the night so you can be there with your constituents because they are hurting right now. i understand you are not quite in uvalde and you are going to go today and we are hearing that one of your staffers does have kids in this district. that person's kids are doing fine and they are okay. tell us when about the community and what your staffer is saying. >> yeah. i will be in uvalde here in a couple of hours. it was very difficult. i'm speaking with her all day yesterday. and, you know, she is just reacting as any parent would. trying to get her child to a safe spot. and, you know, the part i want to mention, you know, minutes after this happened, you know, i have notified minutes afterwards, my first call was to the sheriff. sheriff, he picks up a call. he is in the middle of what is happening.
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and he goes hey, tony, it's pretty bad. let me call you back. the day went on. you know, i spoke with many people. but as i'm driving through the night. i remembered sheriff and i go let me check up on him. and i call him and i go look, i know the details already. we have already gone through it how are you doing? right? the same thing i called the bortac, bortac is essentially the navy seals of border patrol. these are the people that neutralize this shooter and they are the ones that save lives. and i called the bortac chief and guy hey chief, appreciate everything you are doing. how are your guys doing? so i just want to reiterate, we have to think about the survivors in this as well. we are hurting. uvalde is hurting. we are going to hurt for a while. we need help, we need prayers. faith, you mentioned faith is very important. not only to me but to my district so, please, you know, pray for us and we need your help. >> will: congressman, lawrence and i are texans we are familiar with uvalde. for anyone listening today, tell
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us about your constituents. tell us about uvalde? how big is it? what type of community? you talked about the survivors. let's focus on them in that community. >> yeah. it's a small town. it's about 16,000 people. i actually grew up not too far from uvalde, a small little town called camp wood about 500 people. so uvalde is very familiar with me. i went to elementary school in camp wood. so, it's a small town. predominantly agriculture. and i would say it's a sleepy town. you know, everybody knows everyone. you know, very friendly environment. but, you know, with this -- the chaos that has happened along the border, you know, high-speed chases isn't anything new. but this is a different level to have this level of carnage and people are hurting. i mean, it's to the point where families can't identify their children. they are having to use, you know, d.n.a. because of the horrific scene it is. so, this is only going to get worse as more information comes out and i would say we need to focus on those.
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i'm looking forward to going there today. and we need to start healing and coming together. but, yeah, it is pretty much a small town, very close knit. >> ainsley: congressman, do you know anything about this suspect? as lawrence said, he doesn't even want to say the name this morning because we don't want to give him too much attention. but we heard he killed his grandmother before. is this guy from your district? do you know anything about his upbringing? >> yeah. i do know a few things. i will say he is from uvalde. the sheriff that i spoke with was actually on scene with this assailant's grandmother that eventually passed. so, the root of a lot of these issues is mental health. and, you know, this has been evidence for a long time in this country. there is an evil that is growing, that is rising that we have to curb. and part of that is mental health. covid certainly didn't help. last year i worked together with the judge who is a democrat, the local mayor, who is a
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republican, we came together and we go hey, how do we build a mental health clinic in uvalde? i was very proud we allocated $2 million through community projects. it's a $20 million project. i say all that to go i believe not only in uvalde but throughout the country we need to start focusing on mental health and making sure that our children are safe and protected. if this happens in uvalde, it can happen anywhere. >> lawrence: congressman, and forgive me because i have to ask you a difficult question but it's one that has healing takes place in uvalde, the community will be asking was the suspect on some sort of watch list? was he known to the community to be a problem? and why, if that is true, why didn't local officials do more to stop him? >> you know, i don't have all the full details, but, from the initial reports that i have gotten, there were some red flags that showed this person had issues.
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and i think this is some -- we need to look at when there is a person that is acting out, i mean, we need to take hold of that. we need to review things ahead of time. but i will say, look, talking, once again, talking to local law enforcement, they are spread thin and they were focused on a lot of other areas. he is telling me i'm going hey, hey, sheriff, what now? what does tomorrow look like? he is going, you know, he goes, tony, you know, one of my deputies was on scene at the school. and he lost his child on scene. he goes i'm going to lose at least three deputies because of everything that is happening. it's a small police force to begin with. so, it is a ripple effect that happens on there. >> will: congressman, just a very quick last question for you because you have talked to so many local law enforcement, it's a gap in our knowledge. do you know how long this was an active shooter situation? was it 15 minutes? was it one hour? how long was he in the school? >> you know, i'm actually -- i
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will have a briefing, a full thorough briefing at 10:30 this morning along with governor abbott and senator cornyn, we will have all those details there shortly. i don't want to get ahold of that what i will say is law enforcement immediately responded to the point bortac, once again going back to border patrol agents. these are the navy seals of border patrol agents. they're the ones that ultimately neutralized this assailant. in these communities, law enforcement is everything. everybody was on top of it. once again, these were our kids that we were looking at i would say law enforcement acted very quickly. >> will: congressman tony gonzales, thank you for sharing your knowledge with us this morning. >> lawrence: thank you, congressman. >> ainsley: thank you, congressman. our next guest lost his daughter meadow in the parkland school shooting in 2018. andrew pollack has been on our show before and joins us now. good morning to you, mr. pollack. >> good morning, ainsley. >> ainsley: good morning. breaks my heart. so sorry for what you went through and what these patients
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are going through now when you lost meadow. how are you doing? >> it's tough, you know. reliving it, going through it. and seeing that it was avoidable. that is the biggest thing to me that they didn't learn anything from what happened in previous school shootings. there was a school shooting in texas right after parkland where i think about 10 students were killed. we should be looking at what we can be doing to fix these things in schools. a singular point of entry. how did the intruder get into the school? it should be locked down. we need school resource officers and it is just terrible to think that this was all avoidable. and we we shouldn't be focusing on gun control now. parents should be focused on what they can do. they could learn and educate themselves. they could go to a website that i have been working on burn in safety. parents should educate themselves and see what they could be doing.
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>> ainsley: what are these parents going through there in uvalde right now? >> well, it's horrible, i hate to say it, but they are never going to be the same. time doesn't heal moving forward. you are just going to have to learn to live with it. and it's just a terrible situation for these parents. nothing i'm going to say to them is going to make them feel better because i can't bring these children back. but, you know, one good thing that's been going on in the country with everything that we hear that's negative, parents are getting involved in their local school districts. there is no reason why we could give 40 billion away to ukraine and we can't protect our children in this country. so parents need to get involved. they need to go to their local school districts, get involved, see who is on their school boards and see if they are taking school safety serious. >> ainsley: what can we do as a community? what can uvalde residents do if
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they know one of these parents? 21 people have died small town where everyone knows everyone. what helped you when you were grieving? do we write a letter? do those people write a letter? do they send flowers? do they send food? go over and just pray with them? what really helped you get through those moments? >> keeping busy as much as i can. being with my family. and getting involved with things that make a difference. that's what i wanted to do and that's what my daughter would wanted me to do. get involved with your community. get involved with your local school boards. and stay busy. stay with your family. you got to stay strong for the rest of your family and kids. and that's all i could tell them. night. going to be able to say to them what's going to make them feel better because there's nothing i could do to make them feel better, which is very sad. i live with it. it's a double pain. they have to live with it get involved. my rabbi freidman in coral
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springs he has been a big supporter of mine with my faith. and just get involved with your community and keep busy. that's the best thing my advice to them. >> ainsley: i have interviewed parents that have lost their children and some say we are not changing anything in his or her bedroom we always want to remember where he or she slept. how are you getting through this? do you think about her every day? all the time? >> i looked at the pictures right now and i, you know, i get a wave of emotion all the time every time i think of my princess meadow. it just comes over you. and it's very overwhelming constantly to he feel it i do things now i talk to parents and tell them to get involved and try to make a difference. parents that have their kids now. there is no reason to believe you should be sending your child to a school that doesn't have a single point of entry. that doesn't have a perimeter
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fencing. that doesn't have a school resource officer or a trained teacher. there is no reason in 2022 to send your child to a school that doesn't take this school safety serious. and that's what i focus on. and i have a shrine at my house. i pray. i hope to one day see my daughter again. >> ainsley: i'm sure you will. thank you so much mr. pollack for being on with us. god bless you. >> thank you. >> ainsley: thank you. we will have more coverage from uvalde coming up. the lower your drag coefficient, the more efficient you become. such amazingly perfect shapes run throughout the natural world.
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among the dead and there he is in his nike t-shirt. many of your kids might have similar t-shirts. two teachers were also killed including eva morales who spent nearly two decades at the school district. >> will: sources are telling fox news the suspected shooter, 18-year-old salvador ramos was shot and killed by a border patrol agent from a specialized unit who responded to the massacre. an emotional president biden addressing the nation hours after the tragedy. >> parents will never be the same. to lose a child is like having a piece of your soul ripped away. i ask the nation to pray for them. give the parents and siblings the strength in the darkness they feel right now. >> will: biden also turned to partisan politics focusing squarely on the coming gun debate. he also offered "any and all assistance to texas governor greg abbott." you're looking live now at the
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white house where the american flag is flying at half staff along with flags across the nation in honor of the victims. welcome to "fox & friends." will cain, ainsley and lawrence jones who is hosting live for us this morning from uvalde, texas. lawrence? >> lawrence: good morning, family. a somber mood here today. as i was traveling here, family members had yet to be, some, notified about their loved ones. the local reporters, our reporters are on the scene, talks about the wailing that happened as some were notified while others all the way up to 2:00 a.m., 3:00 a.m. had still yet to be notified. i have talked with d.p.s. since, a source is telling me all the families have been notified and right behind me is the school. all the bodies have been transported off the scene. d.p.s. is now processing the scene. the texas rangers who are under the d.p.s. will lead the investigation. f.b.i. will support them with
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any and all resources they have available. the texas governor is expected to be back here for a press conference sometime today. we just saw, you'll be seeing traffic back and forthright behind me as they continue to process this scene. the truck of the suspect is still here on the scene. that special operations unit is making their way in, conducting this investigation today, guys, we want to focus on the victims, the young people, the young girl that decided she was going to call 911. the teacher that used her body as a shield to protect her class. and also, the special operations agent from the border patrol who wasn't even assigned to this school who rushed to the scene and took out that gunman. ainsley and will? >> ainsley: you know, you think about the border patrol agent that happened to be in the area. here are some of the pictures that little xavier on the left who is 10 years old, that is uziah in the middle and that is, i believe, eva morales.
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that's a different picture that we had up earlier. it looks similar. she's a fourth grade teacher and worked for the school district for 17 years. she was in her 40's and had a daughter in college. her daughter will grow up without her mom when she has her own children. the grandmother will not be there. the neighbor said she was just the sweetest. she would take her dogs out and say hi. her husband happens to be a police officer, and the neighbors say they are just very nice people. she loved running and she loved hiking and she loved teaching and taking care of these precious children. the border patrol agent was close by, got word, went over there to the school. 80 more border patrol agents were sent to assist the authorities there. this border patrol agent went into the school and stood between the gunman and the children and killed the suspect so that the suspect couldn't continue through the school on this rampage. we talked to the sheriff, brad coe of kenny county which is a town next door to uvalde and he is sending agents. he did send agents through the night to go and help.
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and he said one of his agents had to help identify bodies. and he got choked up. listen to this. >> we're going to have to have serious counselling on this. it's something that we train for. it's something that we pray to god we never have to encounter. i know one of my deputies was assisting in identifying the bodies, he's got kids that age. excuse me. and it was tough on him. i've got him set up. he's going to see a counselor here today and tomorrow, and we got to get him right so we can protect the kids here in the county. >> will: impossible grief for everyone involved. impossible heroism for those that bought an end to this horrific tragedy. impossible problem that our nation needs to deal with, how do we deal with the generation of lost young men who are perpetuating this horrific crime in increasing fashion in the united states of america. how do we get this country on
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the right track? we're going to talk about tangible logistical issues, putting more resources in schools to protect our children and talk about spiritual issues on saving the soul of so many in this country. and we got to focus on uvalde and the survivors there in that community, in texas and quite honestly all across the united states of america. congressman tony gonzalez is the congressman that represents that district and he talked about what's left behind. >> i spent 20 years in the military and war and carnage and death is not a new topic to me. but it's very different when you have to deal with it at home. and when you're talking about children. we're going to hear about all the fatalities and the people that have died. but we can't forget the survivors and there are a lot of survivors that are hurting right now. i'm a father of six. and i'm thinking hey, as a parent, as a father, what can i do to protect my family? i'd urge everybody, regardless of where you are, small town, big city, call your school, talk
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to your principal, ask them, hey, what are their policies for an active shooter? what are some things that your children can do to protect themselves as well? >> lawrence: yeah, we have a difficult responsibility to be balanced this morning, to talk about the victims, to talk about the heroes, talk about the evil young man that went in and took the life of innocent young people. but we also have to talk about accountability for our elected officials and where do we go from here? you know, it should not be a partisan debate but it is political because it's going to take a political process to get the necessary safety and tools in these schools. it just seems like we continue to hear about it. we continue to pray about it. we continue to put pressure on our leaders to do something and it seems like at bare minimum, we should have a law enforcement
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officer at every school to be a shield. it shouldn't be teachers using their -- we've heard it countless times where teachers went in and they were the human shield. we have law enforcement officers that have a vest and a gun that can protect these kids. andrew pollack experienced this himself and he talked about the safety of these schools. watch. >> i looked at the pictures right now and i, you know, i get a wave of emotion all the time, every time i think of my princess meadow. it just comes over you and it's very overwhelming constantly to feel it. but i do things right now like tell the parents and tell them to get involved and try to make a difference. parents that have their kids now. there's no reason you should be sending your child to a school that doesn't have a single point of entry. that doesn't have a perimeter fencing. that doesn't have a school
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resource officer or trained teachers. there's no reason in 2022 to send your child to a school that doesn't take this school safety serious. >> ainsley: sorry, go ahead. i'm just sitting here thinking you hear the phrase in church, lawrence, we all are involved in our churches that we all put jesus on the cross. it wasn't just one group. we were all guilty in that because he had to die on the cross for our sins. and i think about, is this all of our faults? i mean, as a country, we're so divided. we are -- you hate someone else because they vote a different way than you do? you know, what makes these individuals do this to pick up a gun and go in and kill our children? why do we now have to worry about that? and you think about what these parents are going through and they'll never see their kids again, you know, and even if they have three kids, it doesn't replace the one that they lost. but what about the mom who has one child and she will never be a grandmother because this man
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went into these schools and did this. what do we need to do to heal as a country and make sure these gunmen like this do not -- are stopped before they get to this point? parents, take your children to church. i don't know what is going on in these individuals' hearts but they have a void. they have a hole in their heart and they are evil and they are unhappy. help them to get help. and i know it's not always the parents' fault because the parents are trying in many cases and when there's mental illness involved, sometimes you're at your wit's end and there's not much more you can do. but i don't know what the solution is. i don't know how to fix this. but i do know love your neighbor as yourself. that's what the bible instructs us to do. it doesn't say love your neighbor if he or she is a democrat or a republican. and our country has gotten so divided and i just am tired of all of this evil and i don't know what the solution is but we definitely need to love each other and come back to where we were after 9/11 where we were one country. >> will: i hear your emotion and i share exactly where you are as
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i know lawrence does as well. you know, it's one of the reasons you look at this and say how can someone possibly turn to their partisan political adversary in a moment like this. how can you point your finger of blame of people that disagree with you. there are things, by the way, that we do agree. on we can protect our children. we have the resources to literally protect our schools. we send $40 billion to ukraine and covid spending that we responded to within a minute. we have covid spending that we haven't even deployed and we have the ability to do things that we do agree on. and we do, ainsley, this is where i want to emphasize. i think it is the most important conversation. we have to focus on whatever has wroughted at the depth of our spirituality that we have almost always young men that have been lost, lawrence? >> lawrence: lost, it's a problem. we should be evaluating it, and they've come from a spiritual component as well as from a legal component in figuring out what that criminal profile is.
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i want to bring in jorge ventura, "daily caller" reporter here with me on set right here outside of this. we've been talking to sources. you do a lot of field reporting on the ground. what is law enforcement telling you about this situation? >> here, lawrence, this is completely shocking. something like this doesn't happen in a small rural town. this is a town that is overwhelmingly hispanic. very close, tight knit and they've been completely heart broken. i interviewed a local man here, his name is adolfo whose nephew was across the classroom from where the shooting happened. he saw the teacher get shot and according to him, he saw his own friend get shot in the face. and his nephew is traumatized from the event and this community is just asking questions very heart broken. like i said, this is a community that's very tight knit. everybody knows each other. driving up to the scene, you had all the neighbors asking why uvalde? why today? these kids were two days away from summer break, and robb elementary, we're talking about between second graders to fourth graders, you know, 10 years old,
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12 years old. completely heart broken. and you know, law enforcement right now is doing the best they can to get a handle on the situation and the f.b.i. arrived on the scene to begin their investigation. we're waiting for more answers and exact motive from the shooter. >> lawrence: before i turn it over, a.t.f. just arrived on the scene as well. talk about some of the personal stories of the people here. i don't think people realize how small this town is. how loving this town is. and what they're going through right now. >> yeah, lawrence, here in uvalde, actually i've been reporting here on the border and according to the mayor, this is a very, very tightknit community. everybody knows each other. you can call the mayor by his first name and everybody is willing to help out. i interviewed an 18-year-old kid who heard the first shots ring out when ramos shot his own grandma. he goes outside and saw the truck crash into the ditch. when the car did crash into the ditch, two employees from a funeral home had shots ring to their side. after that, that's when ramos goes into the school.
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they were fearing for their lives, like i said. just, like i said, just what adolfo is going through here. one of his close friends, steven garcia, over six years did not know whether his daughter was deceased or not and found out around 1:00 a.m. in the morning that his 10-year-old daughter is deceased. it's heart broken. there's no words for it and, you know, lawrence from a reporter perspective, this is the toughest assignment i've ever had to report on. >> lawrence: tell me, for our audience, right behind me, as you see, law enforcement is still coming in and out. if you go right behind me is where that crash is. the truck is still in the ditch. so he started to fire on the funeral home employees before he ran into the school. >> exactly. first, he actually ended up shooting his grandma. jumped in the truck. crashes about very close to the school. then two employees came out after hearing all the commotion from the funeral home. had shots ring to their side. those employees ran back in the building when ramos jumps into the school. law enforcement arrived three minutes after it was reported. so they were arrived pretty quick.
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border patrol assigned there. if it wasn't for that border patrol for being a hero, only more lives can be loss. let's also not forget the survivors. these kids -- they're going to be traumatized for this event forever. completely gutted for them right now. >> lawrence: will cain is in the studio. i know, will, you have some questions about the response of law enforcement. i'll turn it over to you. >> will: i have two questions. first, do you know, was there a school resource officer at this location? we have talked about the need for school resource officers. law enforcement on site. was this school, did this school have one employed? >> as of right now, our reports are showing they did not have one. i also spoke to a parent who said every single access into the school was supposed to be locked. there was one door that was unlocked. that's where ramos entered. like i said, border patrol, i mean, immediately came here and responded. this is something that they don't usually attend to. if it wasn't for that border patrol agent, he was a real life
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hero getting in the line of fire and taking out ramos. >> will: i heard you say that. three minute call response time, i believe, before law enforcement arrived on the scene. do you know, then, how long it remained an active shooter situation after law enforcement arrived? >> right now, we're still trying to get exact information. there was a constant exchange of gunfire between ramos and law enforcement, two local agents actually were injured and we're still trying to find out from our sources whether they were life threatening or not. like i said, the border patrol, too, immediately attend to this and put all hands on deck. this city of uvalde is a very rural town. so all the resources are usually dried up and just attending to the illegal crossings here in uvalde. so border patrol, texas state troopers, local law enforcement worked together and get a handle on the situation as quickly as they could. >> ainsley: they'll have to answer questions. why there wasn't a security officer or a school resource officer on the property. why that door was unlocked especially when children are
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behind that door. and i understand the reports that the fourth grade classroom was -- i know this school was for second graders, third graders and fourth graders. and when you walked in the school, there was a fourth grade classroom close to the front door. it's being reported that that's where a lot of this happened. kids were jumping out of the windows and running across the street or next door to the funeral home. can you kind of paint the picture? what it looked like when you got to the scene? >> i mean, it was just commotion. i mean, you had law enforcement scrambling all over the place. as soon as you arrived, every single person that lives next to this school was outside crying, asking questions, what was happening? a lot of the people here actually live pretty close to salvador ramos and they're saying we never saw any red flags with his behavior. but i mean, it's a small, you know, community here and they're just completely latter broken. everyone is asking questions and the part that was most painful was for the parents to not know whether their child was deceased or not. like i said, steven garcia last
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night went over six hours not knowing. he found out about 1:00 in the morning and the community right now is completely heart broken. there's no words. >> ainsley: was it d.n.a. they needed? >> lawrence: part of it was the d.n.a. i talked to d.p.s. this morning and they had to get the d.n.a. because they didn't want -- they knew they had a deceased body there but they didn't know the identity of the child. and so it took them a while to make the confirmations of the child to be able to deliver that news. you know, part of that difficult job in law enforcement is you do not want to notify a parent with the wrong information. and as quickly as we wanted them to get that information to have to walk that difficult line. >> quickly, i was speaking to a law enforcement in the hospital who say that, i mean, the children with these gunshot wounds were coming into the hospital. they were unrecognizable. and the d.n.a. testing was necessary just to get the information. >> ainsley: picture would not suffice. >> everyone is heart broken right now in uvalde. >> will: jorge, i saw a report
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and you can tell me if it was an accurate report or not that parents were running to the scene attempting to, i don't know, save their children, get there in time. tell me more about that. was word spreading in town that this was going down for quite sometime? how would parents have heard about that? would they have heard the gunshots? how would parents have been running at the scene and was it while it was still taking place? >> yeah, well, the information we got from our sources is as soon as the shots rang out, i mean, everyone here that lives right next to the school immediately started running towards the school and actually intended to take their own kids out of there. thank god for the border patrol arrived before the parents and local law enforcement was able to block off the area. it was still an active shooter scene. right here, they're surrounded all by these homes. i mean, all these kids, you know, go to this school. and as soon as, like i said, the shots rang out, everyone attended to the shooting and it's just been complete commotion because a small town like this, they don't expect
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things like this to happen. so they needed all hands on deck from law enforcement. just to get a handle on the situation, like i said, that shooting was reported around 11:30 in the morning, law enforcement arrived three minutes after and it was texas d.p. s., local law enforcement in uvalde and border patrol working together to get a handle on that situation. >> lawrence: guys, we're learning that, and i got a text message from a source that said actually one of those local law enforcement officers was with the towns police as well as it was one of the school resource officers as well. they just weren't stationed at the school. they arrived on the scene just around the same time as the border patrol special operations agent that arrived on the scene as well, guys. >> ainsley: yeah. >> will: lawrence, would that be an s.r.o., school resource officer assigned to another school? or at a home base or something? do you know anymore detail on that? >> lawrence: you know, i'm still getting -- i don't know if jorge knows, i'm still gathering information on that. you know, just what i know about
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texas, there are some school districts when it comes to the elementary schools that have resource officers that share an area meaning that officially, the high schools and the middle schools because we know that most gunmen are normally older, they decide to put full-time resource officer at those schools. some of the elementary schools don't have full-time resource officers and that's just what i know about texas. we didn't have one every single day growing up here in texas. and from what i'm hearing, that was probably the case here as well, guys. >> ainsley: so jorge, lawrence, i don't know if you can answer this, but i was watching our coverage last night. and at one point, we saw that there were, i think, there were -- there were, let me see the number, there were 19 students that were killed. during the coverage last night, there were 18. and then one, we learned in the middle of the show last night, i think it was during hannity's show or laura ingram's show, there was another one that passed away. if i'm a parent and i go to the
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school and i know there's gunshots, my first instinct would be run in that school and go to my daughter's classroom and grab her and try to lay on top of her and protect her or pull her out of that school. did any of the parents try to do that? did the kids, did they -- this one obviously did not die instantly but the other children, did any of them, i hope not, suffer? but i would be worried if my daughter is in there and i can't get to her and she's shot. what if i can rush her to the hospital? what was the response time of the e.m.s. and the ambulances and what did that look like? >> lawrence: well, here, look, as soon as the shots rang out, parents ran immediately to the school. local law enforcement blocked them from coming in. it was an active shooter scene. when i was speaking to sources inside the hospital, they were talking over 10 kids taken to the operating room, needed every single operating room available. ramos actually grandma showed up to that hospital as well and was pronounced deceased at the hospital. like i said, they did try to put
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all hands on deck. thing is information was moving so fast, everyone was trying to get exactly what is exactly happening. ramos did go in there with a rifle and handgun. he was armed. but like i said, the operating rooms here, they had them all available and multiple children arrive and the majority of them were pronounced deceased at the hospital. >> lawrence: it's important to note before we go, with the trauma unit that was here as well, some of them end up going to san antonio as well which is about an hour away with traffic, even more. so some of them were air lifted. i haven't gotten any information if any of the young people that were pronounced dead were in that san antonio unit. it just shows you how expanded the crime scene is. >> will: really quickly for both of you, lawrence, for you, have you heard -- are there anymore children in critical condition in any of those hospitals? and jorge, i just wanted to see if the reports were true, could you confirm, did the shooter have on body armor?
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>> lawrence: i haven't heard about who is still in critical condition. i know there are still young people that are in the hospital. what about you, jorge? >> will, our sources are telling us that the shooter did have tactical body armor when he entered that school. >> ainsley: ok. both of you, thank you for being there on the scene. i know you all have worked tirelessly through the night to get there and report this news for us because we have so many questions. all right, will? >> will: this november, midterms are shaping up after a busy primary day across five states. >> ainsley: live in washington with the takeaways from the key races. griff, we thought this would be our top story this morning. unfortunately, it's not. >> unfortunately, it is not but it was a big night, ainsley, for primary results. and georgia took center stage, let's go right to the race boards and show you. governor brian kemp will now face democrat stacey abrams for the second time after soundly defeating trump backed former senator david purdue. kemp slamming abrams already for calling georgia the worst place
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to live. >> her priorities are not our priorities. people in new york, california and chicago who are funding her campaign. >> in the senate race, trump backed football star herschel walker with the big win. he'll challenge progressive democrat rafael warnock trying to put that seat back in the republican column. >> if you sneak out, they'll cancel you out. they'll force you out of your job. they'll cancel you. these people call themselves progressives. but this isn't progress. this is self-destruction. >> in arkansas, former white house spokesperson sarah huckabee sanders cruising to victory in a landslide. look at that. taking the g.o.p. nomination for the top job her father once held. >> you know when i worked at the
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white house, nobody ever cheered when i went up to the podium. so this is different. >> in the senate race there, republican incumbent grab the nod in a fairly reliable red seat. down in texas, trump backed attorney general paxton holding on defeating george p. bush. it was too close to call in the democratic primary. a.o.c. backed and her old boss who had his home raided by the f.b.i. earlier this year are headed to a runoff. and in alabama, they're headed to a runoff in the g.o.p. senate primary katie britt and mo brooks facing off in what is already the most expensive primary race in alabama history. will and ainsley? >> will: thank you so much. >> ainsley: thank you. >> will: still ahead, we continue our coverage of the tragedy in uvalde, texas. congressman ronnie jackson will join us live.
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nation reeling this morning after at least 19 children and two teachers are shot to death inside their texas school. g.o.p. texas congressman ronnie jackson joins us now. congressman, thanks so much for joining the program. you represent the state of texas although not this district. what are your thoughts on initially of comfort to the residents of uvalde? >> i don't know, lawrence, what i can say that hasn't already been said 1,000 times since this happened. our prayers and thoughts are with the families there. it's just unbelievable. it's just unbelievable evil and i don't know how someone could do like this. there will be all kinds of discussions in the media regarding second amendment and regarding the other issues around guns in this country. but i think we really need to ask the question, how could something like this happen? how could somebody do something so evil? what kind of person, what kind of animal can do this? i think we -- i grew up in a small town in west texas not too
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much smaller than uvalde. and i can never imagine something like this happening when i grew up. when i grew up, things were different. there was a focus on family and community and church and i think that, you know, we knew each other. and i'm not saying that the people in uvalde don't know each other. but i think that that's been robbed from us. our culture has changed over the last, you know, 30 or 40 years, and there's been an attack on those things in particular. and i just think that kids are exposed to all kinds of horrible stuff. i think about the rap music and the video games with all this horrible violence and stuff. i think they have access to the internet on a regular basis which, you know, is not good for kids i don't think. i don't know what's going on. i think we need to stop at this particular point, nobody needs to be pointing fingers too much right now. we need to look at why did this happen? how did this happen? what's wrong with the culture in this country that allows something like this to happen right now? >> lawrence: yeah, you know,
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congressman, i want to get a little personal with you because of your background and what you did in the military. but you were also entrusted and being there if anything tragically happened to three presidents, and that is being a trauma surgeon right then and there if something was to happen. all these young people that have went to the hospital, some of them were unrecognizable. talk about what the medical staff had to do to stablize them and some tragically had to pronounce them dead on the scene. >> well, it must have been horrific scene to be in the hospital to be honest with you. this is a small community hospital, i'm sure, that's not used to this kind of trauma. they're not a level one trauma center. they're not set up to receive even one patient like this, you know, on a regular basis. and to be overwhelmed with this number of patients with horrible, horrible injuries like this and these are doctors and nurses that, like i said, aren't accustomed to seeing on a day-to-day basis. if you were to go to a large trauma center in l.a. county or parkland or somewhere, they're used to seeing this kind of
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stuff. it's always hard no matter what. i don't care how long you work in an emergency department to see young kids killed and critically injured is just, it's very, very hard to see. so i think that, you know, those folks are going to -- they're going to need some counselling and some support. and i can't even imagine what this community is going through. the other children that witness this stuff, and their lives are going to be changed forever, unfortunately. we need to focus as much as we can as a country on making sure that we help the people in uvalde heal. >> lawrence: you know, congressman, a lot of the people locally especially the state of texas, although this is uvalde, it's a part of our home. and texans are grieving. the country is grieving. and they also want answers from our elected leaders. they don't want partisanship. what do you think needs to be done to keep these schools safe? there will always be evil. what can we do to secure these schools? >> we have to do a really good job of just getting together and
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talking about, you know, figuring out where we can meet halfway on this between the left and the right. i think we all should be in support of trying to harden these places and making sure that we provide the resources so that these schools, you know, can keep their doors locked and maybe have doors that open from the inside where you're buzzed in. so there's a controlled point of entry. so we know who is coming in and out of these schools and at least get some kind of early warning if something is happening. so i'm all in favor of spending the money that we need to spend to reinforce that and to make sure that we can make our schools safe for our kids. you know, it's been mentioned a lot that we do this all over the country for other venues. we don't always do it for our schools. i know it's difficult. we have so many schools. that's a lot of resources to put into our local and public schools. we need to make sure that we're doing that because we can't have things like this happen. it's just unthinkable and unbelievable. and unacceptable. >> lawrence: you know, congressman, so often we have these conversations and we want to present these big ideas to prevent the next tragedy. and then the next week, people
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forget and they move on to the next news story. so while we're talking about it right now, again, not to get into the partisanship what do you think it's going to take to take this matter seriously? what is the hurdle preventing getting the necessary resources for these schools so they can be secure? >> i think something like this, you know, advances that because it's hard to forget something like this. i mean, we have shootings all the time and they're all unfortunate and i wish none of them happened. but when you see something like this, it's extra horrific. and i think that this will -- and i know on my part, this will allow me to, you know, to talk to my colleagues on the other side of the aisle and say look, you know, i'm a staunch defender of the second amendment and i'm going to remain that way. but what can we do? what can we do to harden these places and to make schools safer? what can we do to make sure that we're providing the mental health resources that we need. and we're preparing our kids for stuff like this. like i said, i'm all about what
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can we do to repair the damage that's been done to the culture of this country. i think we need to get god and family and community back into our lives in a big way and there's been a big push for a long time from some of those on the left and some of those that, you know, at the higher level that are responsible for educating our kids on keeping that stuff out of the schools. and that's the wrong answer. we need to encourage that within our schools. >> lawrence: before i let you go, congressman, texas governor greg abbott, our governor, is expected to make remarks here and travel. what does he need to say? what tone does he need to strike for the people of texas? >> he just needs to let people know that we're all together on this. that this is one team, one fight when it comes to figuring out what happened here and how to avoid this. and just empathize with the families and, you know, it's been said before, it's not the time for politics right now, you know. and i think that -- i think that governor abbott knows that. i think that he'll be reassuring to the people in uvalde and to
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the rest of the country. and i think that's what we need right now. we need somebody who shows some sympathy for what the people in uvalde are going through. and can just provide that leadership and that support that we need from our leaders right now. >> lawrence: congressman ronnie jackson from the great state of texas. thank you, sir. >> thank you, lawrence. >> lawrence: i think i'll turn it over to will and ainsley. >> will: all right, thank you. we will have more -- >> lawrence: actually. >> will: i got it. we'll have more from uvalde where lawrence will be with us throughout the morning after this break. from prom dresses to workouts and new adventures you hope the more you give the less they'll miss. but even if your teen was vaccinated against meningitis in the past they may be missing vaccination for meningitis b.
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>> ainsley: we are back with a few headlines starting with a fox news alert. a moment of silence for the victims of the uvalde, texas school shooting before tipoff at the nba playoff game between the
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dallas mavericks and the warriors. >> our thoughts and prayers are also with the victims of the horrific shooting today at robb elementary school in uvalde, texas. we mourn with their families and friends and the entire community after this unspeakable tragedy. >> ainsley: after the game, warriors star steph curry sharing how the players are dealing with the tragedy. >> send them to school every day and drop them off and you feel for the parents who are going through what they're going through. i can't even imagine. it reminds you how blessed we are to be able to do what we do. >> carley: curry later praised the head coach steve kerr setting the tone for the players. actor and uvalde, texas native matthew mccoghanay writing after the shooting, as americans, mothers and fathers it's time we re-evaluate our wants from our
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needs. we have to rearrange our values and find a common ground above this devastating american reality that's tragically become our children's issue. the oscar winner has been inundated with messages asking him to travel to uvalde, one social media user saying "this is your hometown. these are your people." those are your headlines, guys, over to you. >> ainsley: thank you, carlie. >> will: we've been talking about throughout the morning where our point of focus should and where it will be. it will be many places, it will be with the victims and our empathy. it will be as we turn to solutions, how multifacttoral and complicated many of those solutions will be and it will be on those that brought an end to the horrific tragedy. the first responders. i think, lawrence, you've done a good job of highlighting the teachers among those protectors and first responders. we lost two teachers in this situation and also the law enforcement that showed up. and tom was on our show earlier and he talked about it was a
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border patrol tactical officer who showed up and apparently brought this tragedy to a conclusion by taking down the shooter. watch. >> this unit, thank god, was nearby so at least one of the guys that would get in there and take the subject out before he killed anybody else. and every first responder that showed up, think of the lives they saved when they got in there because that shooter was not done. so, you know, god bless them. god bless them for, you know, facing gunfire, running towards gunfire when most citizens would not do that. so, you know, once again, i'll say it again, god bless the border patrol. these are the finest 1% this country has. >> lawrence: guys, that's something you continue to hear from law enforcement. it is a scene they'll never forget and, you know, we talk about the -- them being heroes and running towards the fire. and the more and more we learn about it, this guy was vicious. he did not care about life at
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all. but we cannot forget about what they had to endure after processing the scene. as they're trying to identify these young people. many of them have children of their own. that is going to be a story to come. and the mental health that they're going to have to deal with, the counselling and the grief counselors are going to be brought in for the law enforcement to deal with that, guys. >> ainsley: after we saw what happened in parkland shooting, we all talked about we need to go to our schools and talk to our principals. we need to make sure that we have a one entry point and the same exit point. we need to have armed security guards on our campuses or school resource officers. so we interviewed a dad who lost his daughter meadow. meadow pollack in the parkland shooting and he said this is preventable so i know going forward, we need to make sure as communities we don't allow this to happen ever again because there are evil people out there that want to target our children and our schools and so we're all going to be having conversations
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with the leaders of our schools to make sure our doors are locked, to make sure there are security measures in place to make sure this doesn't happen. we do thank the law enforcement officers that were there. the border patrol agents that were there. tom homan mentioned the elite of the elite of the border patrol. navy seals of the border patrol. they are trained. this guy happened to be, was it three minutes away. >> will: that's what they reported to us this morning. >> ainsley: three minutes away, rushes to the school and gets there before law enforcement does or the sheriffs or the deputies and rushes into the school. and we're being told maybe this is a fourth grade classroom, somewhere close to the entrance of the school. and he really targeted those kids. these kids are 10 years old. >> lawrence: yeah, guys, if i can bring in christopher alovarez, spokesperson for the department of public safety. as we said earlier, the department of public safety is leading this investigation, the texas rangers division is under
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them. l.t., what can you tell us about what your brothers and sisters are dealing with with this crime scene that they're processing right now? >> you know, lawrence, it's hard to put into words right now especially not only the victims but families are having to deal with this horrific tragedy here in uvalde, texas but also law enforcement, those who responded on scene, initial officers that witnessed these children just lying there helplessly that were shot. hearing those gunshots, it's just hard to put into words and it's going to be a significant impact on this community and also those law enforcement officers that responded to that scene. >> lawrence: tell us about not just the investigation, but was this guy on any radar for law enforcement before? we know this is a small town. not a lot of resources. not as much as the state. but did you guys have any idea that this was possible? because a lot of victims are asking this today. >> right, they are. and of course, we're trying to answer those questions. i mean, we're working closely with, of course, our texas rangers are working with the f.b.i., a.t.f., multiple agencies trying to determine exactly what the motives are,
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what triggered this shooter? what do we do know for a fact it was an 18-year-old individual who resided here in uvalde, texas, attended a local high school. lived with his grandparents in which he did shoot his own grandmother, was unemployed. we haven't been able to identify any friends, girlfriend, no gang affiliation. no criminal history. so a lot unanswered questions. that's why we're trying to put all those pieces together and gather as much evidence as possible to bring some type of closure to the victims and families and the community here in uvalde, texas. >> lawrence: i've been working my sources, many of them friends of ours and they were telling me about a lot of families were grieving because they hadn't gotten word yet and they had to process a lot of these young people that were not recognizable. they had to use d.n.a. testing. talk about to us and the audience about that methodical process of gathering the d.n.a. and having to wait as much as you want to give answers to these families. tell us about that. >> you know, that was a challenge because we do understand, of course, with such a horrific tragedy here, especially the amount of
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children that were killed, families want answers. they want to know what's going on. they want to know where their loved ones are at. again, with our texas rangers, they were able to provide that type -- it's all part of the investigation especially when you have a mass shooting to have a type of d.n.a. analysis conducted to make sure that we have confirmation of those children along with those parents. as of right now, we've been able to identify all the victims, all the families have been notified. all the victims have been removed from the school and right now, we are processing the scene of the school again to try to gather as much evidence as possible. >> lawrence: i don't want you to get ahead of your investigation. is there any public posting, manifesto, anything that indicates his planning of doing this, text messages or anything? any of that been discovered so far? >> there's some stories of that circulating. but we have not confirmed that as far as from the texas rangers but if there is, the f.b.i. as well as texas rangers will be able to identify that and also use that as part of this investigation. but again, that is a key point right there. we saw what took place in buffalo. we saw there was social media indicators prior to the
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shooting. so we're looking at everything very closely right now. >> lawrence: l.t., this is also a part of the investigation. my sources tell me that he targeted one classroom. do we know why he targeted that fourth grade? >> we do not, lawrence. we know as he made entry into that school, he went into the first classroom that he was able to gain access to. he made entry to that classroom, barricaded himself inside that classroom in which law enforcement was unable at the time, the initial officers weren't able to go into the classroom because they were met by gunfire with that shooter. once that shooter was in the classroom, started shooting children. 19 deceased children as well as two teachers that were killed inside that classroom. >> lawrence: our sources are telling us it was about three minutes before local law enforcement arrived on the scene. how long did it take backups to get in so they could neutralize this suspect? >> right, we do know, lawrence, that local law enforcement responded on scene, it was a local police officer from here in uvalde, texas, state trooper,
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also a local police officer that worked with the school that responded on scene. they heard the gunshots. >> lawrence: it wasn't radioed in. they heard it themselves and responded to the scene? >> the initial call that the police department received here locally was there was a crashed vehicle and an individual armed with a rifle making his way into the school. with that call, they were able to respond to the scene. they were met with gunfire. at that point, they were at a disadvantage. they could not make entry into the school. they surrounded the school and set up a perimeter, breaking windows trying to evacuate children and teachers as well. we had a specialized tactical team comprised of local border patrol and local law enforcement and made entry into that classroom and one of those agents was met with gunfire. at that point, they were able it shoot and kill this suspect before any other loss of life that could have taken place there. >> lawrence: there's a lot of misinformation out there. i want to dispel the myths out there. what led to that crash? were agents already in pursuit
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of this suspect or anything like that? >> no, we heard that, too, lawrence, that's not accurate. as we know right now, initially the shooter did shoot his grandmother. there was a domestic disturbance just nearby the school where the shooting took place. at that point, he fled in a vehicle. he was not being pursued by law enforcement. all we know right now that the initial call that was called in to law enforcement here in uvalde was that there was a crashed vehicle and an individual armed with a long rifle making his way into the school. >> lawrence: wow. l.t., thank you so much for what you're doing. all these guys are doing and we're praying for you and the country is supporting you all guys. i'll send it back to you guys, will and ainsley in new york. >> will: i think we're going to stay with this and see if we can get a few more answers. great interview. and by the way, lieutenant, this is more information than we've received up to this point in time and we really appreciate that. so if i could, could i just push on a couple of points of clarification? it sounds like he barricaded himself in that classroom. how long was he able to remain in an active shooter status before law enforcement made
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their way in? >> you know, that's a good question, will. we're trying to establish that timeline, exactly how long he was in that classroom. one thing to keep in mind, too, once he made entry into that classroom, you have a large group of children, teachers inside that classroom armed with a rifle with numerous rounds of ammunition. so it's a matter of seconds that he can kill as many people inside that classroom. so we got to give praise to those brave men and women in law enforcement that put their lives on the line between the shooter and those children to try to preserve any further loss of life. again, that can happen in a matter of seconds and, of course, no telling what could have taken place if those law enforcement officers did not respond in time. >> ainsley: yeah, lieutenant, 19 students, two teachers. that sounds like what most classrooms are made up of. about 19, 20 kids. primary teacher and then a secondary teacher. did anyone survive inside that classroom and did he just shoot people inside that one classroom?
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>> right, so we do know right now is he barricaded himself in that classroom and again, just having no regard for human life. just an evil person. just shooting numerous children, teachers inside that classroom. we know there was multiple children that did survive that were injured. i do not have the exact number at this time. but we will continue to provide updates as we continue this investigation. >> ainsley: any idea, can i ask one more follow-up. any idea if he was planning to go into that classroom or happened to have a car crash right next to the elementary school and he was mad, he just killed his grandmother. and then he ran in? >> you know, we're still trying to determine that. we're working with f.b.i., working with a.t.f. to, you know, try to determine if there was any prior indicators. any red flags, you know, checking social media platforms as well to see if there were any initial signs that he was going to conduct a mass shooting especially in this school in uvalde, texas. >> will: there's still details to be flushed out on that. can you tell me about the role
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of the killing of his grandmother? was that something that took place at his home and then he took off in his car? was she in the car? i haven't been able to place that particular moment and what it may or may not have led to in this larger picture? >> right, so that was the initial event. these are two separate events. we have the domestic disturbance that occurred between the shooter and his grandmother where this shooter was residing with his grandparents. he did shoot his grandmother. the grandmother is in critical condition. we're hoping she pulls through. our prayers are with her and also with the victim and the families here and also the entire community here in uvalde, texas. so these going to be a key witness to this investigation to be able to identify any prior history with this individual, this shooter. >> ainsley: yeah. i didn't know that. i thought the grandmother had died. i'm glad she's still alive. >> will: insight into what happened here. lieutenant, i really appreciate this. this is very insightful and important information. lawrence?
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>> lawrence: yeah. so l.t., i just want to go back to the scene as well. tell me about -- i'm sorry, guys. go ahead? >> ainsley: you go ahead, lawrence. >> lawrence: all right, l.t. we're running out of time. we know you guys are going to be here processing this scene, everything, we appreciate everything that you guys do. thanks. >> ainsley: all right. >> lawrence: i'll turn back over to you guys. i know we're expecting texas governor greg abbott to be here to be doing a press conference. we've already seen the special operations unit here to start securing for the governor to make his way in. >> ainsley: this is one of the stories that will continue to unfold throughout the day. we'll be watching because, unfortunately, more victims' pictures and parents will be sending picture in and we'll get confirmations as to who actually died because right now, we're only remembering about four or five of them. we have a few pictures that we're able to show. >> will: this is 8-year-old uziah garcia. again, as ainsley points out, there are pictures coming in.
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these are several individuals that we can confirm were lost. we just learned from the lieutenant is many of these children, it appeared, were in one fourth grade classroom. the teacher, perhaps, fourth grade teacher eva morales was in that classroom along with another teacher as you point out accurately. it has a make-up of what sounds like a classroom. two teachers, perhaps an aide, 19 students. you heard the officer, he barricaded himself inside of one room making it very hard. >> ainsley: you know what's interesting, though, this little boy on the left, that's xavier. he's 10 and the little boy in the middle, uziah, he's 8. so normally they wouldn't be in a classroom together unless -- >> will: that can tell us, we don't know for sure that all was in one classroom. i have seen the majority of images and information suggest most of the children were about 10 years old. vast majority were about 10 years old. this is just impossibly
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horrific. impossibly horrific as you're watching at home today whether or not you have children but significantly if you do. we all place ourselves into this situation. and we place ourselves in this situation as americans and how this is what is happening with increasing frequency in our country? and we need to find the answer to the question. and it's going to be deep and it's going to be rooted. but it can't -- it has to come at the same time we look at the pictures on the screen and remember these human beings. and remember those also who helped to bring an end to this tragedy. >> ainsley: yes, it's so unfortunate. we're remembering their families in our prayers. their lives will be changed forever. can't lose a child and continue on the way that you used to. so we will remember them in our prayers and in our churches. lawrence, you drove through the night to get there to tell their stories, to honor these victims. we thank you for that. what does your day look like today? will you stay on the scene? >> lawrence: i'll be covering this story all day for the network. so make sure you tune in. >> ainsley: ok. >> will: thank you so much. you've done a great job there in
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an impossibly difficult and emotional situation. we appreciate your work and thank you for being with us this morning here on "fox & friends." we'll be continuing coverage all throughout the day, obviously. >> ainsley: take over after our show. thank you for watching. just keep it on fox and we'll continue to keep you updated with new developments. >> we can't get anything, anything as little as they're okay, they're not okay, we're still waiting. no information has been released to any of the parents here. >> there are kids possibly held at the funeral home and that's what brought me over here to find out what's going on. i'm scared and worried and trying to find my baby. >> my heart was broken today for our small community and we need your prayers to get us through this. >> good


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