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uvalde texas, texas, the governor will speak about the school shooting massacre. 19 students and two teachers were all killed inside one 4th grade classroom. 17 others were hurt. >> john: mark another tragic day of mourning in america. i'm john roberts in washington. this is america responds. exchanging fire with the barricaded gunman and breaking windows to get others out. and texas rangers look for a motive behind the attack. 18-year-old gunman was reported a loner with few friends, and plenty of problems at home. >> sandra: texas d.p.s. chris oliveras with more on what we are learning in just moments.
>> john: fox team coverage from across the country. >> bill will begin things for us on the ground in uvalde, texas for us. our coverage continues. bill. >> bill: sandra, a lot of conflicting reporting whether or not there was a school police officer on campus when the shooting took place. texas d.p.s. tells me there was a school officer on campus who exchanged gunfire with this gunman. i'm told that the officer was shot and injured and that is when the shooter ran inside the school, got into a classroom, barricaded himself and started shooting in discrimnatly, shows the 18-year-old local resident armed with the rifle going into the school. he shot his grandmother in the face a short time before this, then drove to the school, crashed his car, got out, apparently engaged in gunfire with the school officer, hurt
him, went inside, then committed this heinous shooting. take a listen to the 911 dispatch audio. >> all units stand by. >> bill: if you look at video of children evacuated from the school, 7, 8, 9, 10-year-olds, 2nd, 3rd and 4th grades. some posted they had just gotten awards, and now some of them are dead. 19 killed, two teachers killed almost all of them in one single classroom, a 4th grade classroom where the shooter barricaded himself. as you take a look at video of the scene yesterday, the latest in the investigation, we are learning that police are serving search warrants, they are going through the shooter's social media, going through his phone records. they are trying to contact any relatives he might have, so far
i'm told they have only been in touch, or only know of his grandmother. described as a loner, and take a listen to what this local resident had to say as well, a very tight knit community of about 15,000 people. what she had to say. >> really, it's really hard to see what happened today here as a grandma, yeah, it is very hard. i can't imagine going through that with one of my grandkids. my heart is broken for the parents here in uvalde. never thought something like this would happen in a small town, and friendly as uvalde, but we know each other, and it's been a very, very bad tragic here. >> bill: and a couple of other things to point out, texas d.p.s. telling us there are still 17 other people injured as a result of this shooting. that includes the suspect's
grandmother, again, who was shot in the face. we are told she is in serious condition at a hospital in san antonio. we are also learning that the gunman here apparently bought two ar-style rifles legally here in the uvalde area in the days leading up to the shooting. a texas state senator saying he got a briefing from the atf he purchased the weapons on may 17 and may 20th, also purchased on may 18 375 rounds of ammunition. so, clearly he was stocking up in the days leading up to this attack. they found one of the rifles in his crashed car, the other inside of the school where the shooting took place. back to you. >> john: bill, it's john here. let me come back to the school resource officer. we did hear chris oliveras from texas d.p.s. speaking to that, the officer was on scene, engaged the suspect as he ran up to the school, got off a couple of shots, but he himself was hit and i heard you raise the
question as to why the school didn't go into instantaneous lockdown after that engagement. why was there still a door open? >> bill: well, that's the golden question, john, is how was that shooter able to get into the school. let's assume you can hear the gunshots happening outside, there was an active firefight going on. how did that gunman gain access to the school. you saw that social media video it appears' walking up a ramp or stairs to get inside. clearly he was able to get inside. it's unclear if there was a door left open or unlocked or somehow maybe able to shoot his way into it. we are waiting for those details to come out. but that absolutely is going to be one of the major questions of this investigation if there was a car crash outside, if the police were after him, if there was apparently a shootout outside, you would think that would be heard, the doors would be locked, we don't know what happened, we don't want to speculate, but the bottom line is the gunman somehow did gain
access, not just into the school, but also into the classroom, a 4th grade classroom where he then barricaded himself and apparently just started killing everybody inside. >> sandra: bill, last follow-up on that and hear more about this in just a minute and very specifically more about these children and teachers who lost their lives, but there was an effort to go around the building, now knowing it happened, there was an effort by local police to go to the windows around the school, break those windows to try to help anyone who could escape while this was still ongoing. >> bill: yeah, that's exactly what we were hearing. responding officers busting out the windows, getting kids out any way they could. you saw the video of children rushed out of the school. they were trying to get them out any way they could. but at that point in time, what we are being told is responding officers, unfortunately, were having to hear the gunshots going off from inside the school
because again that gunman had barricaded himself inside one single classroom, was shooting in there, local police tried to get in, he shot at them, they were injured and it was not until the elite border patrol agent went in with another tactical team, a stacking maneuver, they were shot as they were coming in, he was injured but they were able to take the killer down and neutralize him. >> sandra: bill, with reporting on the ground in uvalde, keep us posted with the ongoing investigation. thank you, john. >> john: the names and pictures of the young victims and their teachers are starting to come out as grieving families share stories of their loved ones. alexis mcadams has more on the angle. >> if this does not break your heart the pictures will. learning more about the innocent lives lost. 19 students, 19 little kids and two teachers were killed in this
classroom there in texas. each one with their own story. i just talked to a family member of one of those teachers who was killed, that's 44-year-old eva morales, she was shot and killed in her classroom at robb elementary school. the 4th grade teacher worked at the district nearly 20 years. she was a wife and a mom, gunned down doing what she loved in the classroom. her family calling her a hero. >> she put love into everything she did, with her daughter, with her family, with the school, and i will always remember her, honestly, as a hero for doing what she did, especially as a mom to having her own child. i would say that. >> photos of the five killed out of the 19 kids. this is 10-year-old xavier, 8-year-old, 10-year-old, and two
more 10-year-olds. they were in a classroom yesterday afternoon getting ready to go on summer break in a couple days when the gunman walked in, barricaded himself in the classroom and opened fire. reports say one of the little girls in the class picked up the phone and tried to dial 911, but she was shot and killed. police say all of the families have now been notified. can't imagine what they are going through, these were families that did not know if their kids were alive, out there for hours with the confusion, chaos and heartbreak as they searched for these little kids. family members tell me other students just down the hall heard the gunfire, some tried to escape from the windows of the classroom. now relatives are wondering what red flags were missed? >> this is our family. who did not see a sign that someone was struggling with their mental health that was so disregarded in life that we didn't catch, that someone was on a spiral down, ask more questions, tell people, because i'm not kidding.
this could truly save lives. >> obviously the spotlight on the victims, but the families are saying what red flags here could have been missed by law enforcement, did this kid post on social media, did he talk to anybody about this, a lot of unanswered questions in this very tight knit community. most people grew up there, they we want to the same schools, and they know the victim, and the funeral homes, including the 1 across the street, say all funeral expenses will be covered. they don't want a dime from the families. >> john: according to some reports, did have a troubled background but nothing that particularly raised any specific red flags at this point that we are seeing. alexis mcadams, thank you. sandra. >> sandra: thank you, john. president biden addressed the nation last night hours after the shooting. in that address the president reiterated his push for more stringent gun control laws. gillian turner has the latest. she's live at the white house for us. what is the latest we are hearing from the white house as
far as reaction to all of this today? >> gillian: sandra, officials at the white house woke up today just like americans across the country, freshly horrified by what happened yesterday in uvalde. in the primetime address, the president opened up with scripture, and then dug deep into his own personal experience to try to explain to folks the nightmare the families in texas are now living through. >> parents who will never see their child again, never have them jump in bed and cuddle with them. parents who will never be the same. to lose a child is like having a piece of your soul ripped away. >> gillian: the president is laser focussed on two big themes he says he thinks can help the country move forward, first on his agenda is gun control.
>> the gun manufacturers have spent two decades marketing assault weapons which make them the most and largest profit. we have to have the courage to stand up to the industry. >> gillian: 54% of the country favors tougher penalties for gun crime as a means to reduce violence. even before the mass shooting, a majority of americans polled disapproved of the way biden is handling guns and crime. the second theme is building a case the u.s. is an anomaly, 27 school shootings this year to date. >> these kinds of things need never happen with the frequency they happen in america. why? why are we willing to live with this carnage? why do we keep letting this happen? >> gillian: we expect to hear from the president the first time at 4:00 p.m., publicly rolling out the new executive order on police reform.
it's been in the works for weeks. today just so happens to be the day the white house is putting the president out there on this. they say it really tries to provide more accountability for federal police officers. it does not address state and local police departments. sandra. >> sandra: keep us posted from the white house. gillian, thank you. john. >> john: now to capitol hill and how lawmakers are responding, bring in chad pergram. what's happening on the hill right now, chad. >> chad: lawmakers horrified about what happened yesterday but don't expect legislation soon. gop members suggest adding police officers to every school or arming teachers. democrats dismissed that. >> unless you are going to put a brigade outside of every elementary school, every church, every movie theater, every shopping mall in this country,
the solution is not going to be arming every single inch of every single school. >> chad: after sandy hook, the senate had more than 50 votes for several gun bills but needed 60 to pass. joe manchin opposes changing the filibuster for guns. >> filibuster should not be needed at all or even talking about throwing out the one tool that we have that keeps us working and at least talking together. without that, we have nothing. no checks and balances. >> chad: the shooting happened just before the confirmation hearing of steve duddelbach. gop members say he is supported by groups now fundraising off the massacre. >> gun groups like the brady campaign and every town wasted no time in attempting to profit off of this horrific tragedy in uvalde, texas.
>> chad: in his opening prayer, senate chaplain barry black mourned those killed in texas. encouraged senators to find compromise in what he termed "a sea of indifference." >> john: compromise would be a good thing. thanks. >> sandra: lieutenant chris oliveras with the texas department of public safety. our hearts are broken, sir. thank you for joining us with an update. first to whether or not there was indeed a school police officer that exchanged gunfire with the shooter. what can you tell us you now know on that? >> right, good afternoon, sandra and john. yes, exactly. i want to provide accurate information. update information i just received prior to coming on the show so there was a uvalde school police officer that was at the school prior to the shooter making entry into that school. there was an exchange of gunfire, that school police officer was shot and because of
the heroic acts, the shooter dropped a backpack full of ammunition, numerous rounds of ammunition at the entrance of that school. so this situation could have been much worse if not for the heroic efforts for the school police officer as the shooter made entry. and he barricaded himself into the classroom, and numerous children and teachers shot by the evil shooter that did these devastating acts of violence. >> sandra: how is that school police officer doing? >> you know, that's a good question. i can tell right now the first responders, everyone that responded to this school that actually that witnessed the horrible acts, the children inside the classroom just lying there helplessly, the teachers, everyone involved in the situation, it is making a significant impact on their lives right now. we do have support services to provide to the first responders as well as anyone else involved,
or witnessed this, you know, this tragedy here in uvalde texas. but just talking about the school police officer and also one thing to point out as well as i receive more updated information, when the tactical police team arrived and made entry, forcible entry, a u.s. border patrol agent, tactical operator as well as multiple police officers as well, but a county deputy part of the group. he exchanged gunfire with the gunman as well as they were making entry. he did have a weapon malfunction. in terms of that, they were able to shoot and stop the massacring taking place by killing the shooter. >> john: heroic efforts on the part of the officers, all of them. >> right. >> john: chris, i know you are just beginning to get into the why of all of this. reporting the shooter had an argument with his grandmother prior to the carnage over his failure to graduate. he shot her over the argument
and then went to the school. do we know why he chose that, because his grandmother worked there up to 2020. if that's the case, parallels between this and sandy hook in 2012 in connecticut are remarkable. >> right, and we have not confirmed that. texas rangers are the lead investigating unit in this mass shooting but we have not been able to confirm that. there is information pushed out there on social media as well as other networks, but we have not confirmed that as far as from our investigative purposes but are looking at that. we are looking at any possible indicators prior to this mass shooting as to what triggered the shooter to shoot his own grandmother and the mass shooting at the school and was this school the intentions to go to the school and commit these heinous crimes or was there something else that he was planning to do, but again, it's still an active investigation. trying to put the pieces together and gather accurate
information. >> sandra: has any of the eyewitnesses, including the school police officers you are telling us exchanged gunfire with the shooter, have they relayed to you anything that the shooter said, anything they heard from the shooter as he entered the 4th grade classroom or the building itself? >> no, we have not received any information on that. in addition to that school police officer, there was other local law enforcement officers that responded on scene prior to that specialized tactical team, they were unable to make entry to the school, he had already barricaded himself in a classroom. so what they did, another heroic effort, they started shattering windows and the school to evacuate children and teachers to save any other potential lives that could have been lost because of the mass killing. >> there were some indications, chris, the shooter was a troubled person. the "washington post" said he was bullied as a child over a
speech impediment, an lisp he had, his mother apparently had drug problems, cut his face multiple times with a knife just for fun, according to friends. missed long periods at high school, he was not on track to graduate from uvalde high school. posted photos of himself or posted photos of guns on his wish list on social media. even so, as troubled as the background might be, it's a huge leap to go from that to then shooting up a school. do we have any idea how that switch got flipped? >> you know, we don't, john, and we have not confirmed his history. what i can tell you about his history, no prior criminal history, no juvenile history, no arrest, not even a traffic ticket. no type of criminal background or gang affiliation. so some unanswered questions
there, but trying to work with fbi, atf, school officers, everyone here in this community to put those pieces together and answer those questions as to why and what triggered the shooter to commit this heinous act. >> sandra: we are told the vehicle on the side of the road on the screen in the ditch there is the vehicle that was driven by the shooter. can you add any, or give us any information on that? >> right, that is the shooter's vehicle. we do know he did flee from the scene after he shot his grandmother, in that vehicle. we are trying to put a timeline together as far as from the initial shooting with the grandmother and the time he crashed the vehicle nearby the school. we do know for a fact there was a call to the local uvalde police department in regards to a crashed vehicle and a driver, an individual armed with a rifle making his way into the school. that's what we have at this time. >> john: chris, you mentioned earlier as a result of the engagement that the school resource officer had with the shooter, he dropped the backpack that had a number of rounds of
ammunition in it. it's our understanding he purchased 375 rounds of 556 ammunition. we have also heard that seven 30-round magazines were inside the school. do you know how many expended or fully loaded, if they were loaded, 210 rounds on him plus the one in the chamber. >> right, john, still trying to identify and determine how many rounds were fired from the shooter and how much ammunition on his person at the time. we do know the sufficient amount of ammunition was left in the backpack as far as magazines, could have been used to complete even more killings. but if it was not for the heroic effort by the school police officer, there's no telling what could have taken place and how much more worse it could have gotten. >> sandra: lieutenant, obviously in the hours and days and for quite some time, i'm sure, there
will be a look back at any red flags that the shooter laid out that could have been seen or observed that he planned to carry out an attack like this. what can you update us on as far as the investigation, what it has revealed so far. obviously social media is digged into right now, but is there anything to add at this hour that we are learning about where he said he indicated, at least, that he planned to do this? >> right, sandra. we are working closely with fbi and their investigative efforts. right now they are providing computer and cell phone forensics, trying to go through cell phones, any type of media that they can try to obtain, any type of photos or indicators that would have set off any red flags prior to the shooting. but one thing that's key to this investigation, we are hoping and our prayers with the grandmother that she pulls through and she's able to provide information on the shooter as far as some of
his history. >> sandra: do you have an update on her? >> she's in critical condition. she is still alive, our prayers are with her hoping she can pull through and provide more information to this investigation. >> john: hopefully she will survive, and also aid in your investigation. any idea why as we look at the crashed pick-up truck of the shooter, any idea why he crashed? >> that's a question we are trying to determine ourselves. what lead from the initial event with the shooting of the grandmother, and from that time to where he actually crashed near the school, we don't know what took place in between that. we are trying to create a timeline, trying to figure out what took place, what caused him to crash, especially in that area. we do know the school was nearby the initial shooting with the grandmother, so again, you know, a lot of unanswered questions. we are trying to provide as much
information as possible and accurate information as we receive updates. >> sandra: lieutenant, we really appreciate your time. we hope to get another update soon. we await the governor there in texas, governor abbott is set to address the nation, the media, shortly as you can see, that is the bottom right-hand portion of your screen. we will go to the governor as soon as he begins speaking and get the update from him. >> john: chris frequently spends time with us especially on the immigration issue, it's a tragedy to meet with him today under these circumstances. bill daly, your thoughts over what we know so far. >> john, quite stunning to learn there was a school resource officer on-site and also certainly that his actions probably led to less casualties, as difficult as that is to imagine given the carnage that took place. but his actions led to the police then being able to arrive, tactical unit arrived,
the fact the shooter dropped a weapon and/or a bag of ammunition which reduced his capabilities. however, one of the things that strikes me and john, you raised it with the lieutenant a few minutes ago, he had this large cache of bullet, ammunition with him. the fact that he was at his grandmother's at some point, trying to put together a timeline. he shot her but he was there with both weapons, we understand, or, and large amounts of ammunition, so the intent behind that, after that, where was he going, this crashed vehicle as you pointed out close to the school, was that because he was -- it was chaotic and he thought the police were behind him or something else, was the school a target, or just one of happenstance. all this needs to be flushed out. but it goes to say despite the fact that he was able to get in the school, a school resource officer there, someone who exchanged gunfire with him, gave some head's up to other people
in the school, led to perhaps compromising his ability to be able to carry even more deaths. >> sandra: a live look at the ongoing investigation, you can see the fbi officials on the screen as they look for any clues obviously in the aftermath of this shooting. as you just heard from the department of public safety, update that the grandmother is in serious/critical condition, he said, in san antonio, serious condition, critical condition per d.p.s. a moment ago, she was shot in the face. and law enforcement is having trouble tracking down family of the shooter, friends of the gunman. they have not been able to got in contact with anyone. d.p.s. said he was a loner, unemployed, no criminal history. give us some idea what the investigation looks like knowing
it's hard to find anybody connected to the gunman. >> very good question. and the investigation has a number of aspects to it, what the lieutenant outlined, timeline of what occurred, what happened at the school and beforehand, and also know more about the background. what was the motivation, what was the person's -- the shooter's background that maybe led him to this. the fact that they can't reach any family members, you know, may be telling of some lack of we call grounding of his personality, his behaviors. maybe his grandma was trying to do the best she could but left alone could be difficult, so as far as the investigation is concerned here, the fbi is able to assist the texas rangers with some of the advanced computer forensics and quick turn around, looking at his phone, computer, social media profile, anything else that may give indication as you indicated before, perhaps some red flags that people could
have responded to. and all this needs to happen simultaneous to the investigation on the ground. it's ongoing, certainly no suggestion at this point anyone else was complicit. the question was anyone knowledgeable with his propensity to carry out these acts. >> john: we are seeing more folks arrive for the press conference that texas governor greg abbott will be giving in a few minutes. let me ask the difficult question. the first weapon was purchased by the shooter may have 17, right after his 18th birthday. the second weapon purchased on may 20th. and then four days later he kills 21 people at a school. what's wrong with the system that that can happen? >> john, these are tough questions. again, you know, we don't know why he was, did he have this intent when he went out to buy the weapons, waiting for his
18th birthday, or something that he either told people or he was harboring inside himself. when people harbor things inside themselves, it's difficult for us as much as we would like to know in advance, know there are some warning signals perhaps that we could have reacted to. it's very difficult to understand now, you know, what his intention was, whether it was motivated early on or whether it was something that occurred on the day perhaps he confronted his grandmother. you know, in my personal sense is he was certainly, his 18th birthday was important to him he went out and purchased these weapons, and i think, you know, we could get into issues around people should or should not have weapons, depending upon their behaviors, but if there's no red flags, if there's no indications somebody is under psychiatric counseling, it's difficult to take the weapons away. >> sandra: the governor has just sat down. >> especially those behind me
that i'll be talking more about here shortly. to begin with, let me point out the obvious. evil swept across uvalde yesterday. anyone who shoots his grandmother in the face has to have evil in his heart. but it is far more evil for someone to gun down little kids. it is intolerable, and it is unacceptable for us to have in the state anybody who would kill little kids in our schools. children are a blessing. god teaches us that. they are filled with laughter, innocence, and joy.
their love is a gift that parents get to unwrap every single day. parents in uvalde had that gift taken away from them, stolen by a demented person. days before, days before yesterday when these children were at school some were receiving awards for perfect attendance. these kids will never attend school again. to say the least, uvalde has
been shaken to its core. families are broken apart. hearts are forever shattered. all texans are grieving with the people of uvalde, and people are rightfully angry about what has happened. events like this, they tear the fabric of a community. our job is to ensure that the community is not going to be ripped apart. all texans must come together and support the families affected by this horrific tragedy. what they need now more than ever is our love. what they need is uplifting from all of our fellow texans, all of our fellow americans.
and let me emphasize something i know you all know. the reality is, as horrible as what happened, it could have been worse. the reason it was not worse is because law enforcement officials did what they do. they showed amazing courage by running toward gunfire for the singular purpose of trying to save lives. and it is a fact that because of their quick response getting on the scene, being able to respond to the gunman, and eliminate the gunman, they were able to save
lives. unfortunately, not enough. but i want to make sure that everybody knows all of the law enforcement agencies and groups that are involved and were involved in this process. the texas rangers are leading the investigation and they are supported by the texas department of public safety highway patrol, criminal investigative division, d.p.s. aircraft, d.p.s. intelligence, counter and terrorism division, d.p.s. crime and victim support. they are also supported by the texas division of emergency management, the fbi as well as multiple federal partners, including the dea, atf, hsi and border patrol. and then, of course, the valiant local officials. the uvalde sheriff's department,
the uvalde police department, independent school district police, uvalde county constables, mayor, county judge, uvalde district attorney's office, local public works and surrounding police department. and san antonio police and fire department also. let me walk you through some of of the facts of what has happened. there's been a lot of things that have been said, some are correct, some are incorrect. let me tell you the best information we have at this time, understanding very importantly, that this is an ongoing investigation and ongoing investigations often reveal new information as those investigations progress. the first thing that happened was that the gunman shot his grandmother in the face.
she then contacted police. the gunman fled and as he was fleeing had an accident just outside the elementary school and he ran into the school. officers with the consolidated independent school district approached the gunman and engaged with the gunman at that time. the gunman then entered a back door and went down two short hallways and then into a classroom on the left-hand side. the gunman entered into the classroom and it was connected internally to another classroom. border patrol consolidated i.s.d. officers, police, sheriffs and d.p.s. officer converged on the classroom, and a border patrol officer killed the gunman. as i said, texas rangers are leading the investigation joined by federal, state, and local law enforcement officials.
at this time we know that 19 children -- 19 children have lost their lives. two faculty members lost their lives. in addition to that, there are 17 people who are injured but their injuries are not life-threatening. all family members of all of these students and faculty members have been contacted and informed about the circumstances. officials are working with parents to ensure that the parents are going to be able to see their children. parents should contact victim services at the county fairplex.
we know that there are parents still striving to make a connection, all parents are welcome and urged to contact victim services at the county fairplex. the gunman was 18 years old and reportedly a high school dropout. reportedly there has been no criminal history identified yet. he may have had a juvenile record but that is yet to be determined. there was no known mental health history of the gunman. he used one weapon, an ar-15, using 223 rounds. there was no meaningful
forewarning of this crime other than what i'm about to tell you. as of this time, the only information that was known in advance was posted by the gunman on facebook approximately 30 minutes before reaching the school. the first post was to the point of he said "i'm going to shoot my grandmother." the second post was "i shot my grandmother." the third post, maybe less than 15 minutes before arriving at the school was "i'm going to shoot an elementary school." i mentioned that during the shootout that took place at the school, in addition to the students and the faculty, there
were three officers who were injured who all remain in good condition. one deputy sheriff lost a daughter in that school. before coming out here we had a long discussion with law enforcement at all levels. we had a discussion with community leaders, elected officials. and i ask the sheriff and others an open-ended question and got the same answer from the sheriff as well as from the mayor of uvalde. question was what is the problem here? and they were straightforward and emphatic. they said we have a mental -- we have a problem with mental health illness in this
community. and then they elaborated on the magnitude of the mental health challenges that they are facing in the community and the need for more mental health support in this region. i want to make sure everybody understands the mental health services that are available at this time, with me making one clarifying point in advance i'm going to redouble down in the aftermath. whenever anything as shocking and extraordinary and disturbing as this event is occurs, there is an urgent need for everybody affected to access mental health. i cannot be more emphatic than saying with great urgency,
everybody in this community, i mean everybody, victims, the families, family members, friends, the law enforcement involved, the entire community is in utter shock about this. some physical wounds that were sustained by the officers, they are going to heal in the coming days. the mental and emotional wounds are far harder to see and last far longer. the state of texas, working with federal and local officials and agencies, we are gonna be here for a long, long time. and one key point that we will focus on is making sure that everybody in this community has the access they need for as long as they need it to address what
the mental and emotional healthcare needs that they have. i want to list various agencies and make sure these are made available to the public. the mental health services currently available are from victim services from across the area from federal, state and local levels, including the family resource center at the uvalde county fairplex. schools have crisis teams at the uvalde civic center. they provide wrap around services for families who are affected. the texas child mental health consortium created by the state legislature in 2019 is available to assist. the blue bonnet children's advocacy center is available to provide services for children.
the texas health and human services commission is on-site and will be available for ongoing provision of services. the texas agency is providing supplemental counseling services. counseling services for law enforcement. and the fbi is also bringing in mental health services for law enforcement. it could not be overemphasized the importance of law enforcement officers, all of them, seeking out and obtaining this mental health counseling. the district attorney's office for victim services has a phone number available for all victims and candidly the entire community in a way is a victim here, and i was provided their number to give out to you publicly. this is the number for the district attorney's office for victim services, 830-278-2916.
and at this time i will pass the mic to lieutenant governor dan patrick. >> excuse me, excuse me. excuse me. >> sit down, you are out of line and embarrassment. >> sit down. >> sit down. >> the shooting is right now, and you are doing nothing. >> no, you need to get his ass out of here. this is not the place to talk this over. >> sir, you are out of line. sir, you are out of line! sir, you are out of line, please leave this auditorium. i can't believe you are a sick son of a bitch to come to a deal like this to make a pinnacle issue.
speak. there are family members whose hearts are broken. there's no words that anybody shouting can come up here and do anything to heal those broken hearts. . we all, every texan, every american has a responsibility. we need to focus not on ourselves and our agendas, we need to focus on the healing and hope that we can provide to those who have suffered unconscionable damage to their lives and loss of life. we need all texans to in this one moment in time put aside personal agendas, think of somebody other than ourselves, think about the people who were hurt and help those who have been hurt.
and this time lieutenant governor will speak. >> i was just about to say that there will be plenty of time to discuss and analyze what happened yesterday and do everything that we can within our power to hopefully prevent it from happening again. but now is a time people watching around the world in this country and this state to focus on these families as the governor just said. right now we need to put our arms around the families of these victims, the students and the teachers. this is not a partisan issue, this is not a political issue, this is an unimaginable moment that will impact the lives of
those who lost their children and those who survived. the adults, teachers, men and women of law enforcement who were there. we are better than this as a country. we are better than this. these -- these types of crimes when you see children killed go to the very core of all of us who have children or grandchildren. we can't imagine the pain that these families are going through. we saw it four years ago in santa fe. so, can we not be a nation that can stand together for at least a day or a week or a month? my gosh, to put these families first and everything else second? my gosh, you know, we live in a time, i said this yesterday, when people are at each other's
throats everywhere we turn. whether it's an internet, oscar stage, two coaches arguing or the political world or the media world. who are we as an american people? who are we? we all have to do our part. all do our part to make us a better people and a better nation. evil will always walk among us. and in times like this i've seen it, the governor has seen it, speaker has seen it, attorney general has seen it, in these other shootings, sutherland springs, el paso, santa fe, it's god that brings a community together, god heals a community, god heals a shattered and broken heart and if we don't turn back as a nation to understanding
what we were founded upon and what we were taught by our parents and what we believe in, then these situations will only get worse and happen more often. so no matter what your thoughts are today, pray for these families, pray for this community. give us wisdom. give us wisdom. right now let's focus on the families. they deserve that. they need our love. they need our prayers. thank you, governor. >> and now the speaker of the house. >> thank you governor, appreciate it. mayor, i'm sorry you had to witness that outburst. now is not the time to politicize pain and suffering. this time of year should be the happiest time in a child's life. summertime, getting out of school, enjoying your family and your friends. and instead this community is
faced with an unspeakable tragedy of which there are no words. there are no words to ease the pain and suffering and the anger in this community. i do want to reiterate what the governor said about the mental health of this community. this will take many, many years of pain and suffering and counseling. and your mental health is like any other health. it must be treated, it must be diagnosed, must be talked about. and legislature when we reconvene, we will have a long, very robust discussion about mental health like we always have and will continue to support mental health in this state, and especially rural mental health. like the sheriff said and the mayor said, every community has mental health needs and must be addressed. and this is another iteration of the mental health in the state. and thank the law enforcement,
d.p.s., border patrol, sheriff, police officers, both locally and the school district, i believe one district's police officer lost his wife in the shooting, was there on the scene, and the governor mentioned sheriff's deputy losing a child in that building as well. it's unspeakable tragedy for the whole community, and the mental health of our law enforcement is crucial in these times. and it's ok for them to say something is wrong as well. i do my deer hunting here in uvalde community, a beautiful community with beautiful people and all we can say is how tragic this is, and the support the state will show and will continue to show and we appreciate your resiliency and let us know how we can help in the state of texas. >> you think that, now the director of the texas department of public safety, steve mcgraw.
>> thank you, governor. on behalf of the sheriffs, the chiefs of police, asked to go through a timeline of the facts as we know the investigation right now. it's preliminary, the information, but we will provide as much as we can. first, as reported, salvador ramos was responsible for the horrific attack and killing of 19 school age children and two adults. 18 years old, drop out of school, no criminal history we have found to this particular point. lived with his grand mother, celia, who is 66 years old. on march 17 ramos purchased a semi-automatic rifle at a local sporting goods store. march 18, 375 rounds of ammunition for the rifle. march 20, purchased another semi-automatic rifle at the same local store.
fbi has been able to find information on his facebook account the government provided you information on that approximately 11:00 announced on facebook, a post, mentioned that he was going to shoot his grandmother, he shot his grandmother, rereported that he had shot her, and after that he reported that he was going to a school to attack it, did say elementary at that point in time. the timeline from 11 to 11:30. his mother reported him to the police department and she was able to run across the street to a neighbor and get help and she was medi-vaced to san antonio in critical condition but still alive. the subject, ramos at that point in time used her vehicle, grandmother's vehicle, living at the residence since march of 2022, used her vehicle to drive approximately a block and a half away from the school, crashed
the vehicle at that point in time, exited with a backpack, took a rifle with him, one rifle, dangle defense he previously purchased i mentioned, he went towards the west side of the campus, which is a back door. as he was approaching, as the governor mentioned earlier, a brave consolidated school district resource officer approached him, engaged him, and at that time there was not -- gunfire was not exchanged but the subject was able to make it into the school as the governor reported. he went down a hallway, turned right and then left and two classrooms were adjoining and that's why the carnage began. as he was shooting, the shooting began, we had uvalde police officers arrive on scene along with the consolidated independent school district officers immediately breached. we know an officer, every second of life, they breached it, engaged the active shooter, and
continued to keep him pinned down in that location afterwards until a tactical team could be put together, comprised of border patrol agents on the front end, members of the swat team for border patrol, and county deputy stacked and two uvalde police officers. they breached the classroom door, went in, engaged ramos and killed him at the scene. that covers it, governor. one thing i would like to say you hit the nail on the head. profession of law enforcement, and it is a profession, what looks right and how we measure ourself is the absence of crime and disorder. obviously this is a situation we failed in the sense we did not stop the massive attack but the officers that arrived on the scene and put their lives in
danger, they saved other kids, we are proud of that. and we are always looking to get better and look at anything out there. have yet to find a clue, whether it's social media or other indicators that he was about to do something like this, gives an opportunity to prevent it because as we know the overriding priority view, certainly the legislature in texas and the people of texas is that it's all about prevention, prevent the next mass attack. thank you for your leadership, speaker and lieutenant governor, being thank you. >> thank you. and now the superintendent for the consolidated independent school district al herald. >> thank you, governor. thank you for being here and your support. appreciate the team coming and speaking to us and providing the services and resources that we are going to have. as superintendent i could never imagine a day like yesterday. end of school, awards ceremonies, the time of a second, third or 4th grader's
life at that point. it was a senseless and tragic event and this magnitude, our community is heartbreaking. it really is. we have had a lot of support here from our community, surrounding counties, surrounding districts, and all over the state and i appreciate you for thinking of us and sending that support. i have to relay the heartbreak of our teachers at robb campus. i met with them this morning. as i looked across that room, there was a group of heroes in that room. if it weren't for them, along with the law enforcement that came, that were willing to cradle their kids, get them out of the classroom, when it was safe, when they were guided, and the trust our kids had in their teachers. that -- that says volumes for our staff here in uvalde.
they are heroes, they did heroic things yesterday and they are always very humble but they are truly humbled heroes. yesterday we lost two teachers. these two teachers, i would say, are the cornerstone of that campus to some great degree. two beautiful souls, they had taught on that campus for many years, they have kids in our district, and they poured their heart and soul into what they did in educating our kids in uvalde. 19 students, 19 precious students who came to school yesterday to enjoy the day, to enjoy the awards assembly, and as i look at their pictures, you can just tell by their angelic smile that they were loved, that they loved coming to school,s and they were just precious individuals.
this is a difficult time for everybody. we are hurting, we are -- we have been cut deep here in our community. we will move forward. it's going to take some time moving forward. our faith has been shaken. we ask you to continue to pray for these families, these kids, and our community and our teachers. i am a product of uvalde, born and raised here. i worked for the district for 30 years. and never thought i would be sitting in front of you doing this today. so please, pray for our teachers, pray for our community, and we will move forward. thank you, governor. >> thank you. we'll take a few questions. >> governor, you talked a lot about -- [inaudible]
>> so the ability of an 18-year-old to buy a long gun has been in place in the state of texas for more than 60 years. and think about during the time over the course of that 60 years, we have not had episodes like this. and why is it that for the majority of those 60 years we did not have school shootings. and why is it that we do now. reality is, i don't know the answer to that question. however, what i do know in talking to the leaders here, as well as leaders in other locations around the state, and that is one thing that has substantially changed is the status of mental health in our communities. what i do know is this. and that is we as a state, we as a society need to do a better
job with mental health. anybody who shoots somebody else has a mental health challenge, period. we as a government need to find a way to target that heavy challenge and do something about it. >> clarification -- [inaudible] >> director mcgraw will have the best information on that. >> processing the crime scene, the first the school, second the vehicle, and the third the grandmother's residence and it's a detailed process. i believe all the children were shot and killed by ramos. >> [inaudible]
-- weren't there warning signs on social media -- [inaudible] >> we did see some, and one was of a concern, and that concern was, you know, relayed to allegedly, we have not confirmed it yet, to someone in california who did not report it. and we are making sure she is interviewed and find out more about it. there may be other clues we are not aware of. this is a preliminary part of the investigation, we are going to scour everything to find anything that what could have indicated in some way, shape or form this individual was a threat to the community. >> auditor general -- >> none, none at all.
we are astounded, the beginning of the investigation, usually something out there. but right now it is as reported in the timeline. if we find out something else we will provide that information. >> [inaudible] >> i'm going to answer in part, but we have mike with us who may be able to shed additional light. the information we know, and you pointed out sb11 as you know, but others may not. people need to understand that in the aftermath of the santa fe shooting, i signed 17 laws to address school safety, and one of them dealt with threat assessment and preparation for threat assessment. and there are certain standards
that schools are required to comply with to make sure that they are addressing threat assessments. i have no information as we speak at this particular time about the status of this particular elementary school or the i.s.d. what the status was concerning threat assessment. however, to make sure your broader question is answered sufficiently, mike, you want to come up? the person coming up is mike morath, the commissioner for the texas education agency. >> so there is significant appropriations provided to ensure that the local school systems around the state have resources for this, one of the components of senate bill 11, additional up front funding for that. texas school safety center and our agency work in collaboration to provide technical assistance in training, to leaders to ensure that the threat assessment protocols and the procedures including threat
response plans, operational multi-hazard plans are practiced on a recurring basis. so there have been essentially fairly significant efforts to bolster those managerial practices and these detective or preventative practices around the state of texas. we will continue to do more, after any incident like this of course you reflect on lessons learned to ensure that we can prevent this kind of situation in schools going forward. >> if i can just add to that. >> n19, house and senate work together, put $100 million into trying to give the schools all the tools that they needed to try and protect the students. the marshals program, guardian program to arm teachers where
schools want it. we left a lot of those programs optional and the parents and the school districts and they are doing the best they can and you are always gonna have again no matter what you do, there is gonna be someone to find another area that's vulnerable, but legislature did act, the governor signed those bills, but we can and need to do more in the area of mental health. we have also been working on that as well. but need to do more. we've got to in our smaller schools where we can get down to one entrance, one entrance might be one of those solutions. three more minutes to find an open door, police were there quickly, but this school district has been doing a good job in trying to protect their students and those teachers died yesterday protecting their students and this is a continued work for us. >> governor, you were at a
fundraiser in walker county. why did you not cancel that -- planned on cancelling all events until further notice. does that include the nra convention. >> with regard to yesterday, i was in taylor county responding to a different disaster, the disaster of fires that had ripped through taylor county and destroyed 20 homes and that is when i learned about the shooting that was taking place pretty much at that time here. on the way back to austin i stopped and let people know that i could not stay, that i needed to go, and i wanted them to know what happened, and get back to austin so that i could continue my collaboration with texas law enforcement to make sure that
all the needs were being met here in the uvalde area. as far as future plans are concerned, listen, i'm living moment to moment right now. my heart, my head and my body are in uvalde right now and i'm here to help the people who are hurting. >> [inaudible] campus officer engaged -- >> going to be within 40 minutes or an hour, bottom line, law enforcement was there, they did engage immediately, they did contain him in the classroom and they put the tactical stack together in a very orderly way and of course breached and assaulted the individual. initial engagement? no, i mean -- it was -- yeah, it
confronted him, and wanted to find out -- heard the accident and was trying to check on that particular crash so he followed him immediately when rounds were exchanged and two uvalde officers went in and involved in also the shooting with the subject and were wounded and of course they were also responsible for containing him in that area. go ahead. >> [inaudible] >> i don't know where he was in the community but obviously the uvalde area, they got there so quickly and in force. i'll let them answer that question, they were there in force and of course they were, and importantly, some members of their tactical team on the team and took the lead on that stack. i'll refer to, i think i have a border patrol uniform.
>> thank you. first off the u.s. border patrol del rio sector has a station in uvalde, so 150 or so agents assigned in uvalde, and others live here. we had folks off duty, in training, and out of the field responded. some 80 agents responded. as to where that particular individual came from, don't have that yesterday. the investigation will bear out but we have a large presence permanently here in uvalde. >> not going to release his name just yet. [inaudible] >> we began talking bit -- i'll just tell you one thing we talked about, which is something we have heard in some other
regions of texas also, and that is in approximately maybe as much as a 40 county region around the area where we gather right now, there is no mental health hospital. and there is a shortage of beds for mental health in this region. if someone is suicidal, has a mental health problem, they often times will have to go to someplace like san antonio, and with the growing population in this region with the profound mental health challenges that were discussed with us, one take away i had was there is greater need for a physical mental healthcare facility in the region. but we know buildings don't treat people, people treat people, and so there needs to be more personnel, more strategies,
greater understanding by the mental healthcare provider community about what the needs are and they will be best equipped to know the best way to provide or let's say meet those needs. bottom line is this, a fair statement, that legislative leaders understand about health challenges in the more rural settings in the state of texas and we have a genuine commitment to help address those mental health challenges. >> sawed -- [inaudible] . >> it's one of those issues that was widely discussed and the last several sessions, and in particular in the 2019 session, and pretty much every issue was
raised by one legislator or another about potential ways to address shootings like this. and the consensus arose around those 17 bills that i did sign that they harden schools, made schools safer, addressed mental health, and issues like that were the solutions agreed upon by legislators at that time. and that is gonna be the similar approach i perceive legislators will continue to focus on. we -- we consider that what we did in 2019 to be one of the most profound legislative sessions not just in texas but in any state in addressing school shootings. that said, to be clear, we all understand our work is not done. our work must continue. and we will continue to discuss with legislators about all the potential avenues and pathways
that we can take to make sure that schools will be even safer going forward. >> [inaudible] >> i know people like to try to oversimplify this. let's talk about some real facts. and that is there are "real" gun laws in chicago. there are "real" gun laws in new york. there are real gun laws in california. hate to say this, but
there are more people who were shot every weekend in chicago than there are in schools in texas, and we need to realize that people who
think that well maybe if we implement tougher gun laws it's going to solve it. chicago and
l.a. and new york disprove that thesis, and so if you are looking for a real solution, chicago teaches that what you are talking about is not a real solution. our job is to come up with real solutions that we can implement. >> [inaudible]
-- one-point entry, and i have family down here -- and that's why i'm here today, and so -- is there a plan to address -- [inaudible] >> so the last thing first and that is all together we allocated more than $600 million, so more than a half a billion dollars to address school safety. as it concerns the first parts of your question, the answer is with the laws we passed in 2019, 3 years ago, all those measures that you were talking about were included in those laws. let me give you several examples. the an entire platform that was addressed what's called school
hardening or hardening schools. some of those strategies reduced the number of entrances. other strategies provide things like school marshals or having d.p.s. officers or others fill out their paperwork in schools so there will be a law enforcement presence in schools. they involve a different type of strategy that should make it more difficult for a shooter to get into a school. that said, i can tell you what we all agree upon, we are all going to go back and look at exactly what was passed, any shortcoming in what was passed, any shortcoming in implementation. i want you to know also that included in those laws were requirements by school districts across the state of texas to work with the school safety commission to make sure that all the strategies would be used and employed and tested, including
active shooter strategies for schools to be ready to be prepared to employ as needed. and so, yes, from pretty much every angle it was debated, and let me go back in time. this is something where i began working up the governor's plan to respond to this a year in advance, and legislators had an entire year to be looking at that, to be debating that, to getting prepared for that, then i made it an emergency item that everyone would focus on it and they did. so my point in saying that, and that is that this took the time, effort and mental involvement of all legislators during the course of that session to put what they consider to be the best solutions on the table, many of them were adopted, some were not. but we adopted what we consider to be the best plans that session. again,s we will always and
especially in this coming session, evaluate what more needs to be done in our schools to make them even safer. >> [inaudible] >> you understand that, and we are looking at, now we are getting into surveillance video so we can go frame by frame and track that every minute, so that's part of obviously the investigation and i'll wait until we have completed that part before we provide that information. >> [inaudible] >> right now, i don't want to say because i think we have an answer but we have not confirmed it yet. no, he was not, he was not chased. not at all.
>> [inaudible] >> all the victims have been identified, and all the notifications have been made. yes, ongoing recovery team, we have certainly our, a company of texas rangers with forensic background are conducting it and the fbi evidence response team and atf is helping as well. >> can we get you to speak up a little bit? >> [inaudible] >> limited information. we don't see a motive or catalyst, we are looking and will continue to do so. public, like anything else. they were out there. it's not, you know, he was trying to communicate and of
course some of the information is, we are going to have to continue to do interviews with people he had been in contact with. we are not close to being done yet. i can't comment on that right now. >> governor, you said evil people -- and [inaudible] talking about mental health. and i don't believe evil is a mental health classification, it's a mental health issue or battle between evil and [inaudible] having trouble reconciling this idea of evil and mental health. >> very interestingly in the meeting that we had before coming out here, i raised that exact issue because we talked about mental health, and to me, someone who is as demented as it
takes to kill little kids, it goes beyond it seems to me a mental health issue. that is the sheer face of evil itself. and so listen, i'm not a doctor, i can't classify these things and i don't know the extent to which mental health would be able to address someone who has the challenges or they would shoot their grandmother and then shoot and kill all these babies, all these young kids. kind of what was pointed out at the time in our discussion earlier is there could have been a time earlier in his life when it was a more typical mental health issue that could have been addressed. i don't have any information about that, and maybe others don't either. but is there a difference between a mental health challenge to be addressed and evil, i don't know. it's a big --
>> you say evil -- keeping guns out of evil people's hands. it's not fixable for mental health -- [inaudible] >> and this -- this -- >> that oversimplyfies things, you don't want to oversimplify things but saying it's evil seems to oversimplify it. >> it's a meaningful characterization, and the point is this. if you know someone more evil, i want to see what they did, but i consider this person to have been pure evil. go ahead. say again. >> the answer to that was given to this gentleman back here
earlier, and talking specifically and meeting before coming out here, and for one, not just this community, but the surrounding geographic area is lacking in a mental health hospital or other physical facility, and literally are either no beds or inadequate beds to address those with mental health challenges. and when you look at the population base and perhaps a growing population base in this geographic region, at issue we will be taking up is going to be what ways do we address mental health issue, does it include a physical facility such as a mental health hospital, if so, how large would it be, things like that. so, there are many issues for us to consider and evaluate and to work on addressing. speaker wants to add. >> i would like to add to that. in the last special session appropriated $115 million for the children's mental health consortium to partner with
campuses across the state of texas, higher education, four-year institutions, two-year institutions to have a mental health person on campus, mental health for children coming out of covid but it's for any child who wants to meet with a professional which is a challenge, i'm from rural texas, it's a challenge to have those professionals in your community. and appropriated half a billion dollars to have rural communities in texas have high speed internet to have a consultation online with a mental health professional, not just in the state of texas, but you can meet with professionals outside the state of texas. so telehealth, telemedicine situation came out of covid, rural broadband addressed late in october of this past year and many programs are being rolled out right now. >> [inaudible]
>> we have other ways of addressing it and other funds available for it. >> last question. >> [inaudible] >> so i'm not exactly clear on your question, but i think i have the gist of it well enough to answer it in this way. and that is we will all consider the best strategies for schools to employ but importantly we do have, in conjunction by working with schools we won't be imposing policies on schools without working with them. we need i.s.d.s and schools and school leaders and school safety professionals at the table for that discussion purposes if we are going to achieve the best
standards that are possible. thank you all. >> thank you for coming. >> sandra: you have been listening to and watching the update from texas officials there, governor greg abbott as well as lieutenant governor dan patrick, secretary of state, and senators cruz and cornyn on the stage, and governor abbott saying 19 children dead, two faculty children's dead at robb elementary school in uvalde, texas. 17 are injured, and they are not facing life-threatening conditions. all victims have been identified, all notifications have been made. the texas governor calling on the state to come together saying the uvalde community is
in shock, and led by the texas rangers, and nowhere done yet. and on the spent specifically, the governor calling him demented, saying there is no known motive at this time and he has evil in his heart. the d.p.s. and the governor confirming also that the gunman had taken to social media, that is the crashed vehicle of the gunman there along the side of the road, confirming on social media that that gunman posted moments before the shooting that he was going to shoot his grandmother, moments later saying he had shot his grandmother and then moments before he entered that elementary school, saying he was going to shoot an elementary school. the news conference was interrupted as you all saw by the democratic gubernatorial candidate beto o'rourke, he stormed the governor and said this is on you, accusing him of doing nothing on gun control. many in the audience said he was out of line, he was escorted out. lieutenant governor dan patrick
went on to speak saying we are better than this. a sad day in texas and for this country. we'll have continuing coverage here on the fox news channel. thank you to our affiliates all over the country for joining us. john. >> john: the mayor of uvalde had quite a reaction to o'rourke, calling him a sick s.o.b. and said he needed to leave. and people will be discussing whether that was appropriate or not. joining us on the ground in uvalde, texas, and interesting that stephen mccraw, d.p.s. director, saying the school resource officer from the unified school district engaged with the shooter when he first arrived at the school but that
no gunfire was exchanged at that point. did you catch that? >> bill: i did, and you know, we are still working off the information we heard from d.p.s. earlier, which is when the gunman arrived on campus there was some sort of gunfire exchanged between the school resource officer and the suspect. as we are told, the school officer was shot and injured. so, what we heard governor abbott say is apparently after that the suspect went in through a back door of the school, went through a hallway, and then apparently was able to enter a classroom which was connected to another classroom which is when that shooting took place. as you guys were mentioning, some of the new information we learned as well, the suspect apparently posting on social media within 30 minutes of the shooting, first posting he was going to shoot his grandma, then posting that he did shoot his grandma, and then posting he was going to shoot up the elementary school.
we also learned one of the responding deputies here apparently lost a daughter in this attack. we heard those political fireworks happen as you mentioned, the mayor calling beto o'rourke a sick s.o.b. i was on the phone with the mayor late last night, he is really struggling by the shooting. he is hurt by it, he told me two of his staffers found out they lost children in the shooting. so they did not appreciate the interjection by o'rourke during the press conference when they were trying to get information out. beto o'rourke, going to texas governor greg abbott and dan patrick saying they are doing nothing about the gun crisis, that this could have been avoided. greg abbott shot back at his political rival and said put aside personal agenda and think of someone other than ourselves. so unfortunately, that little political spat back and forth going to likely overshadow a lot of the information that was
coming out of that press conference. a lot of people loved one's families, the american public wanting more details on what happened here. we did get those details and then it sort of went off course a little bit with a little bit of a nasty political exchange there. >> sandra: so going back to the forewarning, the governor started out before he gave the news about the postings on facebook, gosh, you just grieve with these families, you see these pictures. he went on to say there was no meaningful forewarning, bill, in advance other than that new information that 30 minutes before the shooting took place on facebook he posted about shooting his grandmother. and then that he had done so, and then that he was going to the elementary school. you know, the investigation is far from over as you heard, the d.p.s. director say on the stage just new, they are pulling the surveillance footage. you have to imagine, bill, it's going to reveal a whole lot more
in the coming minutes and hours. >> it certainly will, and i certainly would not want to be the one who has to look at that footage. those officers are obviously going to see some horrible, horrible things when they go through the footage. but it's necessary to their investigation. by looking at that, they are going to figure out how he was able to get in, how he got in the classroom, what happened with the responding officers. a lot of questions remain unanswered. but yes, said there was really no forewarning what so ever, but for anybody to shoot their own grandmother in the face they have to have evil in their heart. said this man, teenager had no known history of mental illness but they also suggested that obviously mental illness has to likely come into play at some point if you are willing to shoot your own loved one in the face and come down here and kill 19 children. we are now learning he did make
some posts on social media before this happened. who saw those posts, was it ever relayed, does he have any friends who would have seen those posts on facebook. those are all questions that remain to be answered in the coming hours and days. >> john: in the question and answer section of the conference, bill, greg abbott was asked if it's appropriate for an 18-year-old to be able to guy a gun. abbott said the laws have been on the books that allow an 18-year-old to buy a long gun for some 60 years and said when you look back at the history of texas there is not a lot of -- there's not a lot of examples of what happened yesterday. what has changed, mental health has changed. we need to do a better job in dealing with mental health. he suggested that out there in uvalde, a fast growing area, of southwest texas, that there is a mental health crisisis not bein
adequately addressed. >> bill: he did. also kind of pointed to other cases like california and new york, and tougher gun control laws and chicago as well, they are constantly having shootings. may not be mass school shootings like here frequent shootings day in and day out. and the people who want gun control will point to the fact, why do you have to wait until you are age 21 to buy a can of beer but an ar-15 at age 18. this is going to open up a can of worms for the gun control argument, both sides will likely dig into the trenches again. you heard the governor talk about the policies in texas, he did point out, you can get an ar-15 at that age for decades and only recently have the mass shootings happening. and pointed to a mental health crisis. look, wherever this goes, there are political connotations
attached to it, it happens with every school shooting. >> sandra: the officials confirming the gunman 18 years old, high school dropout, no criminal record they have found, no known mental health history although the d.p.s. director on the stage did say there is a possibility of a juvenile record, i'm sure we will find out more soon. final thought on the ground, bill, thank you. >> bill: final thoughts, just talking to the people impacted here, especially -- i'm heart broken because we were talking to family members last night, especially that grandfather, i don't know if you saw, his 10-year-old granddaughter was missing, he did not know where she was, she told them she did not feel like going to school and they told her no, you have to go, we got notification from the family today that the 10-year-old girl, 4th grader was among the dead.
and hearing the mayor talking about staffers losing children, and the deputy losing a child, 15,000 people, this is going to reverberate here a very long time and a lot of lives have changed permanently here because of what took place. >> sandra: bill, following the news conference, following thank you, very much. >> john: sandra, you can just imagine what will go through that fellow's mind, if only i let her stay home. but as harris pointed out, it's not his fault. you are supposed to be able to go to school in the morning and come back in the afternoon. former fbi investigator bill daly joins us now. so, bill, there was a little tiny bit of warning about this, not a whole lot, just 30 minutes before the shooting, about 11:00 in the morning. central time. posted on facebook, i'm going to shoot my grandmother, i shot my grandmother, and then i'm going to shoot an elementary school. that's likely not enough warning for anybody to do anything.
>> not enough warning and you mentioned, bill mentioned who is monitoring that, it's not something that necessarily would pop up on the radar of officials or people that may monitor for such stuff, it had to be friends or other people to pick up on. at this point in time, no meaningful information that could have been used to red flag this ahead of time. one thing that came out of this, it does sound like the texas governor as a whole has come together and put together plans and looked at this after the other school shootings and as i think the lieutenant governor said, they can get better at this but probably say all the things we like to suggest that schools do with between school resource officer being there, kind of locking doors and what have you, something under, that they have in place and something under provision there at the school. what happened and certainly not finding fault or looking to find
at this point, we don't know the details, how this person then got into the school without being confronted and what may have -- what could be improved, let's say, going forward. >> sandra: governor abbott saying a moment ago, uvalde has been shaken to its core, families broken apart, people are grieving and angry about what has happened. obviously this will be digested for days, weeks, years to come, bill. the governor said finally that the reason it was not worse, quoting him directly, because law enforcement officials did what they do. they showed amazing courage by running toward gunfire to try to save lives. add to that, bill, it's just been in recent hours we learned there was indeed a school police officer on-site that engaged with the shooter. >> yes, sandra. finding out he engaged with him. what level the engagement was,
early reports and again all these things, because it's so fluid you hate to pin any particulars on things you may have heard in the past, that there was some gunfire outside the school. whether that was from the school resource officer, not clear, or the gunman shooting at the resource officer maybe injuring him, those are questions and details that are not clear yet. but i would say that the amount of response that was received at the school by police officers, the efforts that law enforcement went through to extract other students from other parts of the school as the gunfire was erupting and confrontation with the shooter is extraordinary, and astra -- as tragic as it is, he had large amounts of ammunition with him, he was shot and killed resulted in less
deaths that could have gone on. so it's a tragedy, it will be looked at. i know it's looked at closely by the fbi's behavioral analysis unit, looks at any mass shootings to understand those kind of leakage footprints, the bread crumbs that may have led up to it or things that may have been done at the time of the incident to improve things. so, we all work on this as improvement. it's no consult to the loss and suffering of the poor families today, but for the american public to know these things are looked at, you can tell by what the people in texas have done and other states have done, look carefully and put money and time and effort into what they can do to better the situation. >> john: let me ask you that question, bill, based on your expertise. you had a guy that did not show any overt signs of mental illness that would have raised a red flag with authorities. he bought two weapons legally from a local gun shop.
there was no warning of premeditation, didn't seem to be any trail of bread crumbs he was leading up to this. school resource officer on-site who had some level of engagement with the shooter before he went into the school. what more could have been done? >> yeah, john, great questions, and i think you know, that's something that raised in my mind what could have been done. you can get into the details once the thing gets fully developed and may understand what happened, whether it's looking now more at single points of entry, i think was raised during the conference and other security officials would say, do you have some type of magnetic closing doors so they lock and close, other things to do to improve things. and i think that's where we are with this, especially around this school, more improvement. and you have these risks out there in the outside world, and kind of the swamp and things come out. try to anticipate those, yes,
try to trip wires in place, red flags that may draw your attention to it, intercede ahead of time. however, whether you are protecting your home or other facility you need to look closely what you can do protect from any of those things coming in. you may not know what they are or when they may occur, tighten things up as best you can. always some room for improvement but certainly sounds like everyone took an earnest approach and heartfelt approach beforehand to improve things. again, which i think has led to the saving of lives during this tragic episode. >> sandra: bill, leave us off with how this investigation is going to proceed at this time with texas rangers leading it, the ongoing investigation, live pictures there, they are outside with the shooter's vehicle, trying to find anything and everything that could add to the investigation, just an update, three officers who were injured in the shooting, they are in
good condition. we heard that from the governor a short time ago. but also we are awaiting on an update from the grandmother and her condition. the governor last said she was in -- the department of public safety when we had the lieutenant on earlier said she is in critical condition but still alive. we obviously hope she's able to pull through this, she was shot in the face by her grandson. she would be a wealth of information as this investigation has revealed that this gunman was a loner, he did not have anyone close to him, and that's making this investigation very challenging. >> it is, and they are hoping to get some more of the granular level of information of the behaviors that led up to this from the grandmother, apparently she was the sole caretaker of him, talked about before the press conference it did not appear he has a larger family out there, that he's been in contact with, or at least we suspect at this point. no one is in the immediate area.
so those grounding straps, those things alluded to as we go out to both kind of a mental health, as well as a social well-being. families are important for a lot of reasons and you know, society needs to have families, needs to have things such as religion and other elements to keep us grounded and focus and stay on the straight path. find out what led him to this, and again, it is something that between the department of public safety, texas rangers are a part of, they were relying on other partners and law enforcement has specific expertise, we talked about doing forensics on the phone, on the computers, on internet searches, the bureau is well equipped to do that, and the behavioral analysis can work closely and support them as a federal partner, but this is a state issue and all the authorities. look at all the ones involved, it is amazing when the governor went through the list of responding agencies that came
through and ultimately with the department of border protection who ultimately shot this individual and took a stance very quickly to neutralize him. so i think, you know, all in all, tragedy, perhaps bright spot for us is people are looking at this, we put a lot of effort into it from law enforcement as well as from the public safety side and this needs to be improved. we can get there, we can get there as a nation, get there not because it costs money but because we need to do it to protect those young treasures of ours in school. >> sandra: appreciate you standing by through the news conference. thank you, bill. >> john: alexis mcadams is gathering the stories about the victims and each one of them tears at your heart. >> listening to the families talk and then looking at the video of so many of those families running around yesterday trying to figure out if their loved ones were ok and then getting the call the kids looking forward to a fun summer
after the year of school in 4th grade are now gone. family members i've been talking to, john, throughout the afternoon are asking were there any red flags missed. learning 30 minutes before the gunman opened fire he posted on facebook that he shot his grandma and on the way to shoot up this elementary school. disturbing facebook posts there, and then drove, witnesses say they heard several gunshots. >> i heard like 7 or 8 pops and i was like oh, my god, right away i thought of my grandkids at school. >> i was inside, my wife called me and said did you hear the like popping sounds? no, i didn't hear anything. i come outside and my wife said she saw somebody running. >> these are photos, five of the
19 kids that were killed. police say they were in class yesterday afternoon when a gunman barricaded himself inside and he opened fire in the classroom. we are learning from the governor it was a double classroom that had a connecting door with two teachers inside. one of the children, john, tried to call 911, but she was shot and killed by the gunman. investigators say all of the families have now been notified, you can see them, they are hugging and crying, for hours, though, confusion, chaos and heartbreak as they tried to search for their little kids. family members tell me other students just down the hall heard the gunfire wondering if they were next. some tried to escape from the classroom. two teachers were shot and killed in the classroom at robb elementary school, 44-year-old eva morales, worked at the district 20 years, her husband was a police officer there. the wife and the mom gunned down doing what she loved. her family tells me she was a hero.
>> there are not words, devastating doesn't even cover it. it was scary, and broke my heart, and i don't know how else to say it that when it happens in your home with your own family, that's different. >> different because amber who you heard from that lost her relative, also had her cousins in the same hallway where the gunman was, she went to the school, too, and this is a tight knit community. people grew up there, they went to the schools, and all know each other, including the people who own the funeral home across the street. they say all funeral expenses will be covered. don't want a dime from the families. they can't imagine what they are going through, john. >> john: whether it's there in uvalde or whether it was families at the parkland shooting or newtown, connecticut, the community will never be the same. >> no, they'll never be the same. you look at these little pictures the family members are posting as tributes, the one mom
went to the school yesterday for an activity, it was like a school activity that she went to, she took a picture of her son, all excited for the day and hugged him good-bye, took a picture, kissed him, the last time she saw him. and bill has been talking with the mayor there one-on-one and he's so heart broken, too, his community. they all know each other. and if they don't know the little kids, they know relatives, little brothers or sisters who went to the school, too. >> so unbelievably tragic. >> sandra: dan is joining us now, dan, jump in here as we continue to cover this absolutely horrific situation in uvalde. 19 children dead, two faculty members. we know that there are 17 injured at this time. the governor and his team gave an update that those are not life-threatening injuries, all
notifications made, as we see the pictures of these children who are now gone. >> yeah, came out of the governor's press conference and as the former cop, all the deaths are tragic. put myself in the shoes of those police officers, their kids and wife were in the building and they were trying to get in to save everyone. real emotional wounds to the community and to the area. the victims, their families, it's going to take a long time to heal. i'm glad the officials have brought in and have mentioned mental health and the need they are bringing services, trauma service for everyone involved and help the community heal. as you mentioned earlier, this is something they don't get over from, right. spoken to the officials in columbine and sat with the chief who unfortunately had to go into a classroom in texas in sandy
hook and the healing is a process that goes on for years and continues. at the same time, law enforcement has to look at what worked here, what strategies, how many lives did those teachers, administrators who implemented training and policies and programs, and the kids trusted them to keep themself and they kept their shelter-in-place and the officers who bravely went towards the sound of gunfire once again. make sure that unfortunately the reality of these events is among us, and we need to make sure we are putting every effort and resource we can to protect our kids. there is always another piece of technology we can put in place. i think, you know, having dedicated police personnel, school resource officers as we saw yesterday who can intervene quickly is key. they also are key and
instrumental in building relationships between children and police and the number of events that have been stopped because of school resource officers who had relationships with kids who come forward and talk about somebody who is a loner, someone is an outsider, someone was saying something or talking about doing something, they have been able to prevent a number of mass shootings. we don't know the exact number but a number have been prevented because police were able to intervene. this is going to be a long healing process for the community. i'm assuming we'll have national dignitaries will want to help the community heal and will go, that's going to be a challenge for law enforcement to do that, and make sure the victims and the services go forward and the same time i can't imagine being in that classroom and processing that evidence, the horror that this individual unleashed upon all of our country, on school children. and these were young school
children. very young kids. when we train schools with young kids this age, we use it as an active drill, we don't want to put the image of a gunman in their mind and it's unfortunate that just like sandy hook, that terror is in the room with the children one-on-one and their teacher and the terror that they went through is mind numbing. >> john: dan. i don't think we can ever imagine what the children went through or the families are going through. just so horrific, the whole thing. dan, thanks for being with us, appreciate it. >> sandra: thank you, dan. john, we all watched the news conference and we watched the moment when the democratic gubernatorial candidate beto o'rourke walked up to the stage, confronted the sitting governor, greg abbott, and said this is on you. he was called out by people in the audience and some of the officials on the stage. he then walked out, he was escorted out, forced out, and he
talked to the press outside and here it is. >> this 18-year-old who just turned 18 bought an ar-15 and took it into an elementary school and shot kids in the face and killed them. why are we letting this happen in this country? why is this happening in this state? year after year, city after city, this is on all of us if we do not do something. >> john: that was quite a scene there in the press conference and as i said earlier, i think a lot of discussion as to whether it was appropriate for him to stand up and interrupt that press conference, given the sensitivities all around. there's a time for politics, is today the time? i think a lot of people might disagree. >> sandra: you quoted the uvalde mayor, calling o'rourke a sick son of a b, making it a political issue. many in the audience were
yelling at him, he approached the stage saying you are out of line. >> john: he wants to be governor. and trying to piece this together. bill, we have about 45 seconds here. what are you hearing from folks there on the ground who were looking into this? >> bill: yeah, john, real quick. we are not hearing good stuff. unfortunately, you know, we talked to a lot of law enforcement sources. the crime scene they came across yesterday i'm told by multiple sources is one of the worst they have ever seen in their entire lives. a lot of the first responders having mental trouble right now processing what they physically saw there, i'm told several of the victims were still alive and they had to try to perform c.p.r., get them out of there, extremely graphic scene. i'm told by border patrol sources the agent went in as well struggling with what he saw as well, so keep our law enforcement officers and your thoughts today.
as they are running towards gunfire, they have to go in there and see that horrible, horrible scene and some of them are struggling with it. back to you. >> john: bill, thank you. great coverage today and yesterday as well. >> sandra: thank you, bill. >> john: it's a sad day for america. sad day for us here at fox. >> sandra: horrible. thank you very much for joining us. i'm sandra smith. >> john: i'm john roberts. "the story" with martha starts right now. >> martha: thanks, guys. breaking right now on "the story," in a moment that was fraught the excruciaing loss and when the nation is asking what is happen something why is there so much suffering? such serious mental health crises, more danger that we are witnessing it seems everywhere you turn. breakdown of community a loss of family, a loss of faith in many cases. as the governor of texas