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population can laugh at themselves but than that one time he tells a joke that comes after him -- comes after them, and they have to attack him. >> jesse: i laugh at myself constantly because i am a total idiot. but i am secure in being an idiot and that's what's good. thank you so much. tucker carlson is up next. always her member, i'm waters, and this is my world ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." in the past ten days, two separate teenage boys have committed horrifying massacres in public places. on may 14th, 18-year-old murdered ten shoppers in a grocery store in buffalo and then yesterday 18-year-old killed 19 small children and two teachers at an elementary school in texas. both were very obviously mentally ill, the people around
them knew that. both killers had told other people they planned to commit a mass shooting, and then they did. so what can we learn from this? the first and most obvious answer is that the system in place didn't work. his teacher sent them to a mental hospital for evaluation, they knew he was a threat. they tried their best, he committed a massacre anyway. so we know for a fact that what we are doing isn't working, but we should also be honest enough to acknowledge that it's very hard to know what to do instead. despite we may have heard, the problem isn't that we don't care enough. there's not a person in this country who is not horrified by the sight of murdered children, it's the worst thing, and everybody thinks that. the problem is that the human mind is much more complex and harder to control than we like to admit. a person who is intent on committing violence is very hard to stop under any circumstances. an act of congress isn't going to do it. neither will gun control. there are more guns in this country than there are people. there always happen.
however you feel about the fact, you can acknowledge that you will never get rid of all of those guns. the constitution were hit with that and he would set off a civil war if you tried to do it. gun control whether you find the slogans appealing or not, will not stop the next person. every rational person knows it. the only way to stop these killings is to figure out why american society is pursing so many violent young men. there is a reason they're acting this way. what is the reason? it's not just mass shooters, by the way, the ones you see on television, its gang bangers and carjackers in armed robbers and indiscriminate haters who push strangers in front of subway trains. we have a lot of people like that in this country all of a sudden, more than you like to think about. why are they acting this way? with the only question that matters. of course is the only question our leaders hate to address because there's nothing in it for them. last night the president of united states went on television just hours after 19 small children have been murdered. he didn't do that to uplift or unite the country, which was
already united in its sorrow. instead he took the opportunity to once again harangue anyone who didn't vote for him, and he did it as always with a series of stale talking points left over from the 1980s. it was a shameful display. here's part of it. >> president biden: as a nation, we have to ask one in god's name are we going to stand up to the gun lobby? winning god's name will we do what we all know in our got needs to be done? what in god's name do you need an assault weapon for except to kill someone? dear art running through the forest with kevlar vests on, for god sake. it's just sick. in the gun manufacturers have spent two decades aggressively marketing assault weapons, which make them the most and largest profit. for god sake, we have to have the courage to stand up to the industry. >> tucker: children are dying because the gun lobby is
profiting. disgusting he would say something like that. it's also untrue, "the new york times" said the same thing within hours of the shooting. the gun lobby. please. the nra declared bankruptcy last year. the nra is a husk. in 2021 for example, the tech company spent more than $70 million lobbying congress. big pharma spent 82 million lobbying congress and the first quarter of 2021 alone. the nra spent just 2.2 million total lobbying in all of 2020, a presidential election year. spare us. whatever the problem is, it's not the gun lobby. they are not the reason those children were murdered yesterday. it's insulting and divisive and stupid. this is too serious a moment for nonsense like that. stop. but over at msnbc they were completely convinced. watch. >> and again, as president biden said, i thought he did an extraordinary job last night,
and i really do. i feel sorry for those who actually saw that and were actually forced to say something really [bleep] about him after he did it. that's how they make their money? it really -- it makes me really sad for them that they have that dark of a soul, that they are that twisted. >> tucker: joe scarborough set a naughty word on tv, this must be serious. and in fact it is very serious. in fact, it's too serious retired partisan platitudes from the reagan era. update your profile. politicians offering solutions to the tragedy that in the end serve only to make a political party more powerful should be excluded from this conversation. it is too important, they are speaking in bad faith, obviously. and so is anyone whose body guards to carry extended magazines or other so-called weapons of war. they are hypocrites, they have no standing. get back to us when you follow your own demand. if anyone on tv has been accused for a crime should also take this opportunity to be very
quiet, no one wants a moral lecture for you. but unfortunately that's essentially all we are getting, more wind at a time when we need more than that. beto o'rourke, who is running for office again because he has no marketable skills just stormed a press conference to berate texas officials. he did this in front of the families of some of yesterday's victims. watch. >> excuse me. excuse me. excuse me. >> sit down. >> you are out of line and an embarrassment. >> sit down. >> no. he needs to get the [bleep] out of here. this isn't the place to talk this over. >> sir, you're out of line. sir, you are out of line. sir, you are out of line, please leave this auditorium.
>> tucker: come on. that's saving lives? that's making this a better country? beto o'rourke sounds like one of those lunatics from the westboro baptist church gets off on making a scene. but that's essentially the answer with gotten to how to fix and prevent it happening. please. anyone who talk like this should be quiet for a minute and leave it to everybody else to figure out why this is happening. and this is bigger than a single mass shooting or even two of them in ten days. this been a huge increase in violence in america. on our streets, public transportation, in our schools. if not i guess it's measurable. from january 1st to april 10th of this year robberies in the new york transit system are up more than 70% year-over-year. felony assault in the subway have increased by 28%, grand larceny, gordon to the nypd, is up by more than 100%. those are all crimes of violence. and that's just underground. the same thing is happening on the streets and if you don't know it, you just got back to the country after a while. according to abc news, about 11% of violent crime in the city of
los angeles involved a homeless person, 2018, 13% in 2019 and 15% in 2020. if that was a graph, it would look like that. keep in mind, the homeless make up about 1% of the total population of los angeles but they are involved in nearly a fifth of all violent crimes in the city. but ignore it, it's not happening. get everyone who lives here knows that it is happening because the numbers go up every year and if you have kids you know it's happening because it's the same story in the schools. executive director of the national association of school resource officers told fox business that schools are "seeing more aggression in terms of fights. sometimes they are shoving matches and sometimes they flat out assaults." it's more misbehavior -- in schools. it didn't used to happen, it's happening now. more american families had guns at home 50 years ago than they do now according to the rand corporation, which studied this. 45% of american homes had a gun in 1980. in 2016, that had dropped to
32%. so the problem is not that we are more arms than we were, the problem is that people have changed, young men have changed, they are more violent. why? that's the bipartisan conversation we need to have now. in that conversation has been drowned out by lunatic attention seekers who are hoping to win the next election. but we don't need them now. never mind your election. there's something really wrong, and we can figure it out if we try. there will probably be a lot of causes. the use of antidepressants in this country is increasing dramatically. between 1991 and 20 team total ssri consumption increased in the u.s. by more than 3000%. 3000%. for member comedies are supposed to reduce mental illness. that's a real stat, published in the medical barrel of science. if not just this country, and canada, state-funded enter to present prescriptions for young people doubled over the last
decade. then, during the lockdowns come ssri prescriptions increased even more. a firm as a group called express scripts reported that antidepression prescriptions went up by more than 20% during covid. according to the latest figures, more than 40 million americans are now taking psychoactive drugs. that's roughly one and ten. so again, the point of these drugs is to make you healthier mentally, to reduce suicide and violence get suicide rates and rates of violence are spiking. we don't know that that's causation, but it's worth looking at. of course it's immoral to criticize big pharma, could we use an honest conversation about this? yes. immediately. clearly something is going on. watch. >> three major medical associations, including the american academy of pediatrics have together declared a national state of emergency in children's mental health caused by covid. parents report grief and anxiety and depression among children citing school closures and forced isolations the primary
culprit. suicide attempt among adolescents are rising sharply, most acutely among 12-17-year-old girls. 51% since the start of the pandemic. >> tucker: oh, so the lockdowns dramatically increased the incidence of mental illness among young people and in ten days we seem to go mass shootings by mentally ill young people. could there be a connection? that's not finger-pointing, that's not to blame b-17 for yesterday's shooting, we are not that low, we are not joe biden. but if people are becoming mentally ill because they are disconnected from others, what can we do to connect them to others and thereby reduce the incidence of mental illness? that's a real conversation. is there a more important one? meanwhile, more than 100,000 people just died of ods and the pandemic is responsible for some of that. watch. >> new numbers out today from the cdc show how drug overdoses have surged during the pandemic. more than 107,000 americans died of drug overdoses in 2021.
if that's the highest annual death toll ever recorded and a 15% increase from the year before. deaths involving fentanyl, meth, and cocaine, rose sharply. >> tucker: okay, so people are doing more drugs, they are more unstable, they are killing themselves more often, and in some rare cases, they are killing others. kind of mind-set would it take to go murder children in an elementary school? you are so disconnected from other human beings that that seems okay to you. what could be adding to the feeling of disconnection we have from one another? while, in 2020, adults in the united states spent an average of eight hours every day on digital media, staring at a screen. the lockdowns made it worse. they are not the only cause but they're definitely exacerbating it. at 20% jump from 2019. one of the people who spent an awful lot of time online during the pandemic was the shooter. he reportedly played a lot of call of duty instead of going
outside. the shooter in buffalo also spent a lot of time online as well. in fact, he blames the internet for radicalizing him. i spent all most you're planning this attack, he wrote on april 26th, oh how time flies, if i could go back, maybe i would tell myself to get the f off for chin and get an actual life. too late for that now. that's not an argument for censoring those or any other sites, it's an argument for experiencing real life, nature, other people, animals. anything but a screen buried staring at a screen all day puts you into your own world and in some small number of cases, it drives you insane, makes you mentally ill and violent. that's very obvious. it's one of the reasons why people in silicon valley don't let their own kids lose themselves in their stupid ipad. back in september of 2013 after a mass shooting, the late charles krauthammer identify the problem. we have a lot of mentally ill people and we need to stop ignoring them. obviously we've ignored that warning, so here it is again. >> he needed help.
30 years ago the cops would have brought him to a psychiatric emergency room, he probably would have gotten antipsychotics that he probably would have been hospitalized for a couple of weeks. that's the way it was done in the '70s when i practiced psychiatry, but today that doesn't happen. the cops left, he was left on his own, he was a man who shouldn't have been on his own, he should have had the state looking after him, and he ended up killing people. look, you want to respect the civil liberties of everybody, but there is a point in which if you don't take control of people who are clearly out of touch with reality, you are damaging them, exposing them, and of course tragically exposing a lot of innocents around them. >> tucker: yeah, exactly. this stuff is complicated. the human mind is complicated, and if the environment changes, so does the mind. people can't go outside or talk to other people or spend eight hours a day staring at a screen.
if they are on brain-changing chemicals in huge numbers, tens of billions of people, you think that has an effect? yeah. what effect? is anyone starting with murderers, not just mass murderers, but all murderers have in common? apparently not. it would be nice to know. instead of telling us about the gun lobby. please, no one believes that. and why, by the way, if the answer to mass shootings always universal gun confiscation? shouldn't we focus on the people who did it? on the dangerous people? it's like forcing entire population to drug rehab in response to fentanyl crisis. probably better to focus on the addicts. why did they get addicted, how can we help them? let's be serious about this. children died, it's real, stop with the talking points, be honest buried jason whitlock is always honest, the host of fearless, he joins us tonight. jason whitlock, it's not even about gun control, it's not even worth arguing about gun control, it's too stupid even to dignify with a response, but there's a deeper thing going on here. why is no one saying that?
>> it's much deeper and thank you for having me on, because i think this is a very important topic and you've laid it out beautifully. hey, look, big tech, these social media apps, this addiction -- this dopamine addiction that they have given all of us, our smartphones, they are our enemies, they are disconnecting our human connection. this young man lived a very isolated life, his family was in tatters, allegedly his mother was a drug abuser, he's living with his grandmother. that doesn't appear to be a connection to his father. he's online playing call of duty. he's connecting with other human beings through direct messages, instant messages over instagram. this whole world with filth, this social media matrix, it is not good for our minds and i will go all the way to everyone's most favorite president, barack obama, an
example we saw today that you did not reference. this is a very smart man. i believe barack obama is very smart. i believe social media has damaged his mind. he used this tragedy in texas and 19 slaughtered children to venerate and celebrate george floyd. he stood george floyd on the bodies of 19 dead children over twitter before social media. his mind would never go to connect george floyd to 19 slaughtered children and we must remember and celebrate george floyd. it's ridiculous, but it speaks to what social media has done to our points of view, our ability to critically think. we are building lives based around how we come across over social media apps that are not real human interaction. he would never say these things in a one-on-one conversation with anybody in texas we just experienced this.
you can't compare the slaughter of 19 children to a drug user and habitual criminal who resisted arrest and lost his life tragically because of policeman crossed the line. there's no comparison to innocent children being slaughtered. don't stand towards floyd on the dead bodies of children. but this is what social media begs all of us to do. that's a smart man that was the president of the united states. taking down to these kids and how they built their entire lives around their social media platforms and how can i be famous. and they don't care how you become famous over social media. if it's the slaughter of other human beings or if it's shaking your rear end nakedly on and only fans account, whatever it takes, just do it. we've got a mental illness pandemic going on across america
and really across the globe and we are ignoring it because, hey, let's just get rid of the guns. that will fix it. >> tucker: i would be sympathetic to getting rid of the iphones, i really would. [indiscernible]. thank you, deep as always, much appreciated. >> thank you. >> tucker: so joe biden took this opportunity, your off-balance and grieving, so he snuck through an executor order to change the country. more. he did that today to mark the two years since george floyd's death but it's not going to make your community any safer, it will make him more powerful. that's always the point. we will explain what it is next. ♪ ♪
♪ ♪ >> tucker: happy st. george floyd day. more than 100,000 young americans have died of drug ods in the last 12 months. you don't know the names, you never will, nobody cares about them. but today we
are reminded once again to celebrate the life of of violent convicted felon drug addict called george floyd who died two years ago today in police custody. all deaths are sad but why is this saturday and most? joe biden did mark the occasion with an executive or you for something called police account ability. it mandates more restrictive use
of force rules for federal law enforcement. before he signed the order by next mind it was necessary because black people in this country are all terrified knowing the police could kill them at any time. >> president biden: why this nation, why summary black americans wake up knowing they could lose their life and of course just living their life today. simply jogging, shopping, sleeping at home. >> tucker: because if there's one person in america who speaks with deep concerns of black people, it would joe biden. he definitely has got his finger on the pulse. what does this mean no? what are the public policy implications for you of what biden just did? no one knows more about the subject than heather mcdonnell, senior fellow at the manhattan institute, author of "the diversity delusion." we are always grateful to have her. thanks for coming on. what will this do? >> welcome of the problem with this executive order, tucker, is this narrative that it represents rather than the policy details, which apply only to federal law enforcement and are limited in scope.
but the narrative of this executive order is that we have a police racism and a police violence problem in the country. biden takes every opportunity to reinforce that idea and the results are in, and they are unequivocal, thousands more black lives lost in cities succumbing to predation and anarchy. after the george floyd riots of 2020, homicides roast 29%, the largest annual increase in history and youth homicide rose an astounding 47%. the victims overwhelmingly black. two dozen blacks are killed every day in this country. that's more than all white and hispanic homicide victims combined. if they are not being killed by the police, they are not being killed by whites, they are being killed by other blacks. the police are not the problem in the black community, criminals are. the police shot six allegedly unarmed blacks in 2021. compare that to the 10,000
blacks were killed by criminals. in fact the police officer is 400 times as likely to be killed by a black as an unarmed black is to be killed by a police officer. george floyd's death was sickening, but it wasn't a pattern, it doesn't represent the way most blacks die and if biden really cared about black lives, he would call for law and order and stop demonizing the cops. >> tucker: i wonder how long they -- this is all about the upcoming midterm elections and get out the vote at all that stuff, but what he said is so patronizing a disconnected from reality. does it still work? >> i think it does. if there's still people who absolutely do not want to confront the problem in the inner-city, which is the breakdown of the family, the breakdown of norms, and want to keep demonizing police officers even though the crime is now spreading across the country. the carjackings are happening, these absolutely insane drive-by shootings that are mowing down
kids. there seems to be an endless appetite for phony narrative that only produces anarchy and predation. >> tucker: anarchy is exactly right. heather macdonald, always with the facts. great to see you tonight, thank you. >> thank you, tucker buried >> tucker: here's a story we haven't talked about enough, deep mind is a british technology company that is owned, like most things, by google. it develops an artificial intelligence that exceeds the capacity of human beings. think about that. so the top research scientist there just said "the game is over." james barrett has been contemplate in this moment for a long time. he's written the book "our final invention: artificial intelligence in the end of the human era." we spoke to him about ai, what it is and what it's going to mean for the rest of us in a brand-new episode of "tucker carlson today." here's part of it. ♪ ♪ >> you suggest that ai may be one of these forces like nuclear
fission is the example that you use that might be more powerful even than its inventors anticipated. >> yeah. potential for getting out of control. >> tucker: can you ask when with that would look like? >> yeah. this is a big deal. this is something -- the late stephen hawking said the problem with ai is in the short-term who controls it. in the long term, can it be controlled at all. >> tucker: yes. >> elon musk said would let the genie out of the bottle. we may lose control of ai. it's our greatest existential threat. we have taught ai to master a lot of human abilities. ai will get better than us at artificial intelligence, research and development. so what happens when ai gets better than us that making ai? are intelligence goes like this. we are not getting -- our iq on average is not getting any higher. machine intelligence is going like this.
when we are in this curve somewhere. once ai is programming ai and making better and faster ai, that idea is called the intelligence explosion. then ai sets the pace of intelligence growth, not humans. not the top end of intelligence. we have no reason to think we are. so the way we are headed, we will make machines that are much, much smarter than we are. now -- and we have to make them friendly. >> tucker: how do you make machines friendly, especially when they are smarter than you are? but if you had to wait until tomorrow morning to find out? you can stream the entire conversation we had. fox nation, 7:00 a.m. tomorrow. for years you've heard that george's new voting laws are voter suppression. the president called them the return of jim crow. the results are in. what happened? it turns out we saw record turnout in the primary this week. so more people vote under jim crow? we will straighten it out ahead.
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>> tucker: so the delaware computer repair shop owner let the world know about hunter biden's laptop, his name is john, we interviewed him on this show. he told us he's going to fight back against the people who smeared him and there is some major news tonight on that front. trace gallagher has that story for us. hey, trace. >> the guy you say is the delaware computer repairman who first revealed the hunter biden laptop and also says it was used to ruin his life. so to repair his reputation and exact revenge, he filed a multimillion dollar lawsuit against emma credit congressman adam schiff, cnn, "politico," and "the daily beast" saying that he was falsely accused of stealing the computer, acting bizarrely, and peddling russian
disinformation. he says he was harassed by everyone from big tech companies to fellow delaware residents, and a few days ago he vowed to fight to the end. watch. >> i thought maybe i still have a chance in the court of public opinion. i now have a second chance to hold his people accountable and i'm going to fight like hell to do it. >> but today his attorney said, quoting her, "today john paul and "the daily beast" settled amicably close call. that means a friendly settlement, or as some legal experts surmised, image "the daily beast" decided to pay up and move on. though "the daily beast" is not commenting. so that now leaves adam schiff, the chair of the house intel committee, who without intel or evidence, went on cnn and said he thought the criminals behind a laptop smear of joe and hunter biden and politico, who reported that dozens of former intel officials believe the laptop to be russian disinformation, which has of course been debunked.
so i don't think it would be breaking news if a few more of these amicable settlements were in the works. tucker buried >> tucker: trace gallagher, thanks so much for that. so it has been 60 years and bull connor strode the earth. thank god he's gone, but then not so long ago the president of the united states informed us that jim crow is back, something called the new jim crow. it's in the south again. never thought that would happen. stacey abrams, who ran for governor last time, told us that voter suppression is the reason she's not in the governor's mansion now. a very specific claim. luckily you can test it against reality and reality came last night, a primary in the state of georgia last night. and here's what happened. early voting turnout was three times greater than it was in 2018. so the racist suppression either didn't work or it had the opposite effect. what should we make of this and is anybody going to apologize for scaring the hell out of georgia voters?
mollie hemingway is the editor in chief of "the federalist," doing a great job. she wrote an entire book about our elections. well worth reading. she joins us now. hey, mollie. so assess if you with the state of jim crow in the state of georgia's night. >> yes, worth remembering it was president joe biden and stacey abrams led this campaign that nearly every democrat took part in claiming that any election integrity was associated with jim crow. jim crow was a real thing that are country suffered through where the democrat party basically disenfranchised an entire race of people. it was very difficult to get rid of those laws, and so the swear really stings. the people who wanted to pass election integrity said that it was very unfair, that that was a horrible thing to say and that they simply wanted to make it easy for people to vote, but difficult for them to cheat. so they slightly streamlined somethings, made some improvements, developed some consistencies, they made it so that you have to show a photo i.d. in order to vote.
and yeah, the proof is in the pudding. there was this primary yesterday, voter turnout is way up across all categories, including in the democrat party, and this was a horrible lie and people should have been held accountable. you might remember this lie was used for joe biden asked companies or told companies to engage in an economic boycott of the people of georgia for the crime of wanting their elections to be secure. major league baseball complied with that demand from the president and they moved the all-star game from atlanta, something that they have still not apologized for and for which they have lost a tremendous number of fans, including people like myself, and other companies did as well. this was a lie and you should not be allowed to lie about something as important as keeping our elections secure. >> tucker: yeah. and claim a racist conspiracy and make americans hate each other more, divide the country more, which is what they specialize in. mollie hemingway, thanks much for that. >> think you.
>> tucker: marjorie taylor greene was in the race yesterday in georgia and a bunch of people in washington spent a lot of money trying to unseat her because they are for democracy. they tried to kick her off the ballot. she gets 70% of the vote in her district. are the democracy defenders celebrating to no. because they don't really believe in democracy. there are many unresolved questions, many, about the tragedy we saw yesterday in texas, a mass shooting of children. the question is what can we do, what can schools do to protect themselves from active shooters. we are going to talk to someone who has wide experience next. as a co ♪ ♪
♪ ♪ >> tucker: there's a lot we don't know about the atrocity that took place in uvalde texas yesterday, but the entire country, both parties, to be fair, our intent on proving renting it from happening again. children murdered, nothing worse than that. but it raises the question, what can we do in real life? rhetoric aside, talking points
aside, how hard is it to stop an individual who is intent on hurting other people? kelly mccann has thought a lot about this. marine corps officer, been in the executive protection business for many years in this and many other countries and we are happy to have them on tonight. thanks so much for coming on. i've heard you say this, if someone is intent on hurting others, it's very hard to stop that person. it's not fatalism, i think it's a reflection of reality. is that true? >> that's absolutely true. at the end of the day, a lot of people want to reduce this to a gun issue. it's not a gun issue. if someone is intent on hurting someone they are going to find a way to do it. some ways are more convenient in some ways are more concealable and some ways might be a little bit easier to pull off but at the end of the day, if someone is intent on that, they are going to find a way. the real problem here is why are we producing so many people in recent years that seem to want to do this. >> tucker: yes. >> if you look at the historical climb, it just seems that these incidents -- and they are anomalies, they still remain
anomalies -- are happening with more frequency. it's not really a gun issue are an access issue or maybe even a psychological issue. is it a societal issue? >> tucker: so it feels to me like there are a lot of -- boy, that's the answer that nobody wants to hear. i know you don't want to say it, i don't want to hear it, but how important is it to be honest about the threat that you face? i feel like a lot of people have an interest in selling some solution that's not a solution. why aren't more people just want about it? >> you know because we live in a politically correct society where everyone is supposed to be tolerant and everyone supposed to be exceptionally considerate and no one wants to speak the hard truth. the hard truth is 67,000 public on entry schools across the nation, assign a resource officer to each one of them and in a lot of cases -- in fact this shooter was confronted by two school district-employed police officers. they didn't get into a firearms
engagement, so that may be not an answer. okay, usually in a security situation it's a human breakdown, so the back door, there's a question, how did he get in the back door? was he left open because some but he went out to vape or smoke, was it left open after recess? these protocols make people complacent because in the vast majority of schools across the country, there will never be a school shooting. they are true anomalies and it's exceptionally difficult to protect effectively against an anomaly. most people won't spend the money, they lose interest, they get bored until the next one. and then we hear platitudes and a lot of other things that don't make sense. >> tucker: that's exactly right. maybe we should take a close look at with happening to young men in our society. maybe we should care about that. i hope that spurs the conversation. we are going to see you again soon, i appreciate you coming on, thank you. >> great to talk. >> tucker: a tragedy like this is irresistible, the grief lowers your defenses, you become prey for demagogues to leverage
your suffering, the suffering of the country, for their political gain. michael moore specializes in this, manipulate your emotions. he went on msn bc demand the repeal of the second amendment. >> to nickel and dime this, i don't know if that's going to do it, i think we need some really drastic action here. we need a moratorium perhaps on gun sales. we need -- who will say on this network or any other network in the next few days it's time to repeal the second amendment? you can't say that. why not? i support all gun control legislation. not sensible gun control. we don't need the sensible stuff. >> tucker: yeah, so it's always the same story, crazy person does something horrible, the system fails, therefore you lose your constitutional right and the people in charge become more powerful. we tried this before, by the way, we had an assault weapons ban in 1994, biden talked about it last night. it saved lives. it didn't, actually. the numbers are there.
one congress passed that law, for ten years they also required the doj to study its effects and what they found out, it didn't encompass anything. here's charles krauthammer pointing that out. >> we had a decade of that assault weapons ban from the mid-'90s. it lasted for a decade. if you look at the studies, had no appreciable influence on gun violence or the lethality in individual attacks and there are three elements here. again, it's the shooter, it's the weapon, it's the environment. and although liberals liberals in the mainstream media want to look at of course is the weapon. but there are other ways of looking at this. if you look at the shooter himself in the mental health issue, the fact that you cannot get a commitment on these kinds of people -- i'm thinking most of jarrod lautner, the shooter in tucson, arizona. everyone knew he was a grenade about to go off. anybody who knew him, who was in class with him, said that, but you could only stop him after he killed. >> tucker: we miss charles here at fox. ryan is a lawyer and former army ranger who has thought a lot
about this. he joins us tonight. thanks so much for coming on. so dumb people peddling cheap ineffective solutions that help them in the wake of a national tragedy. if you like we've seen this before. >> we sure have. the only reason to ban guns is to ban guns. it doesn't do anything to stop violent crimes. i look at situations like this, we have a bunch of defenseless children murdered and i don't understand who thinks it's a good idea to make the rest of us more defenseless also. beto o'rourke is one of those guys. the assault weapons ban not only didn't help. it made it worse. crime actually spiked during that and since then we've been great on violent crime in his country compared to history or recent history. it's easy to focus on the scary gun, but if we look at real facts, we look at real stats like the fbi violent crime stats, there are more murders by hammers every year than any type
of rifle, not just the extra scary assault rifle. and so you're absolutely right. focusing on the environment, focusing on the person that wants to do harm is what we need to do to solve this problem because focusing on the tool would make as much sense as banning pressure cookers after the boston marathon or banning box cutters after 9/11, right? >> tucker: is like the people tell you homelessness is about the lack of a formal housing. what a lie. it's ignoring the real problem because it's just too hard and you don't have the imagination or the will to make people's lives better, so you just say the thing that you memorized in 1983. >> and we know it doesn't work because look at all the crimes already broke. murder is already illegal, all these laws didn't stop him, so let's throw another law added it's going to be ineffectual? not only is that a problem violating our rights, that's a problem not saving kids. why don't we look at actual ways we would save our children instead of doing this? >> tucker: yeah. how about not lock teenage boys
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we are out of time tonight. we will be back, 8:00 p.m., the show that's the sworn enemy of flying, pomposity, smugness, and groupthink. now above all, spend time with the ones you love. see you tomorrow. ♪ ♪ >> sean: welcome to "hannity." we start tonight with a fox news alert. major breaking news surrounding the horrific shooting in uvalde, texas. coming up, a full report on all the disturbing new developments about the shooter. plus, we will discuss baidoa works pretty despicable political stunt from earlier today and the mayor of uvalde will join us. but first we check in on the ground in texas with our very own sara carter. she was just out at a vigil that took place there. sarah.