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covid shut down the annual affair, fleet week is floating back to new york city. a parade of ships marched up the hudson river. the event gave civilians a chance to say thank you. you can also tour the ships through memorial day. >> please keep in mind the series that preserve our freedoms. i'm john roberts. >> i'm anita vogel in for sandra. "the story" with trace starts right now. >> thank you. good afternoon, everybody. i'm trace gallagher in for martha maccallum. a contention press conference wrapping in uvalde, texas where the director was hammered with this question. we did police at the scene of tuesday's shooting not immediately breach the classroom door. >> yeah, from what i am right
now, it was the wrong decision. there's no excuse for that. i wasn't there. i'm telling you from what we know, we believe there should have been an entry as soon as you can. >> prior to that, he laid out a new timeline of events. if you haven't seen this, you need to watch. 11:27, the store is propped up by a teacher, a minute later, the gunman crashes his car. that teacher runs to get a phone and comes back to the open door. it remains propped open. at 11:30, the teacher calls 911 reporting a crash and a man with a gun. the door remains open. at 11:31, the gunman reaches the school parking lot and begins shooting at the school. two minutes later, he enters the school through the propped open door around began shooting into a classroom. he fires 100 rounds. at 11:35, three uvalde officers
intrerld the school. they're followed by four others. more gun fire is heard two minutes later and it continues the next several minutes. by 12:03, as many as 19 officers are now in the hallway outside the classroom. 12 minutes later, 12:15, border patrol tactical unit members arife. right about that time, a girl inside room 112 tells dispatchers that she sees eight to nine children still alive. we're now at 12:21. law enforcement moving down the hallway. finally at 12:50, an hour and 20 minutes after the gunman enters the school, they breach the door with keys provided by a janitor and they kill the shooter. it's a lot of details to dig through as the families of those lost in the deadly shooting continue to seek answers. jeff paul is live in uvalde.
he watched the dps lay out this information. jeff, it is a lot of information. it is hard to comprehend. but give it to us what you have. >> yeah, trace. the more we learn about the shooting, the more difficult it is to recount the 19 kids and two teachers being killed. one of the most glaring pieces of information, investigators believe there were children inside the school at the time of this shooting that were calling 911 and pleading with operators to send in police now. according to texas dps, this happened on multiple occasions throughout the agonizing minutes leading up to the children and the two teachers being killed. they also say that more than 45 minutes went by with 19 officers standing in the hallway before they could get border agents in with a master key to open the
door where the suspect was shot and killed. despite investigators saying most of the shots were fired in the first minutes, how many kids could have been saved if officers managed to get inside the classroom earlier. texas dps says while the incident commander thought there were no more threats to kids. now they believe it wasn't the right call. >> clearly there were kids in the room. clearly they're at risk. by the way, when you go back to shooting, there may be kids that are injured, shot but injured and it's important for life-saving purposes to render aid. >> it's unclear right now how many kids could have been saved and how many kids died during that 48-minute window from when officers first engaged with the shotter to the time that they stormed in. all of that is still under investigation. we have new video obtained by fox news from a witness that really shows you the agonizing
moments when teachers and parents were outside. kids are screaming during the shooting. take a listen. that was just a few seconds, trace, of those agonizing moments with parents and teachers and students running for their lives, trying to figure out if the students are okay. really this underscores coming up later today in about 1 1/2 hours governor greg abbott who was supposed to appear prior to this shooting at the nra convention in houston. he will give an update here. this community bracing for the president and first lady jill biden to arrive sunday. trace? >> a lot of questions to be asked and answered, jeff paul. back to you as the news breaks. let's bring in former d.c. homicide detective ted williams. trying to wrap my head around this, ted, as you are. we'll talk about the timeline of
the 911 calls. that is so important here. the reason the dps says they department go in is because the commander on scene said it was no longer an active shooter situation. again, let's go back to the timeline. at 11:33, the shooter enters the classroom. 11:35, there's seven officers on scene. two minutes later, it is clearly still an active shooting situation, and yet they don't go inside the classroom. >> this, trace, is just unspeakable. just think about it. these children, these 19 angels and two teachers, were being slaughtered while 19 police officers at the 12:03 hour is out there in the hallway saying
that this is a barricade situation. you would have to believe with all of these young people calling in, saying, please, send the police, send the police, also telling them that we have students that are still alive in here, you would have anticipated that someone would have overruled that commander and went and made a breach of that door. tried to save lives. so the question that they need to answer, how many, how many lives could very well have been saved if the right decision was made where we were told by colonel mcgraw the wrong decision was made. >> when the 911 calls are released, there will be a new reckoning. it's not nearly as emotional or compelling for me to read them. i'm going to read the timeline. 12:03, a female student from
inside room 112 calls. right? she calls back. advises, she was whispering, by the way, when she said she was in room 112. 12:10, calls back, advises multiple dead. 12:13 she calls back. this is 46 minutes after the gunman enters, 43 minutes later, 12:19, a new female student calls from room 111. 12:21, hears three shots fired during that call. 12:36, the initial caller said he shot the door. at 12:43 and 12:47, a caller asks 911, an hour and 16 minutes after the gunman enters to please send police now. there are some 27 police officers outside the door, ted. >> you know, this is such an
embarrassment. lives have been lost that perhaps could have been saved. these kids were crying for help. they were calling out, asking for help. you've got law enforcement officers standing out, waiting for a barricade situation and waiting for a swat team. they should have immediately moved in there, trace and tried to neutralize this person. just think about it. i read where one young lady was in there and she took the blood of one of her classmates and put it on her body and remains still in order to try to live. there's so many stories coming out now about other kids that were alive, alive, and they had to go through this traumatic incident.
some of them have now -- it's outrageous, trace. >> including story of one young girl that police called out and said are you okay? she said yes and then she was shot. ted williams, great to get your insight. it's a horrific situation. meantime, let's bring in former dhs secretary chad wolf. you've been listening to this conversation we've had with ted williams. the dps said it earlier. he said an active shooter situations, it's simple. you put people in a line, in a pile if you have to, you go in and you keep shooting until the shooter is dead. your thoughts on what we're hearing and finding out today. >> well, look, the timeline that they laid out is problematic on a variety of different fronts. there's going to be a lot of difficult questions to and from law enforcement and school system perspective. what was the teacher doing, why was the door propped up, why did it continue to be propped open?
a variety of different questions. at the end of the day, when you're law enforcement and you're not sure if it's an active shooter situation, you have to go in there and make sure that in this case the school is clear of any additional threats. you know there's additional students in there. you know that they haven't all been evacuated as the timeline lays out. they evacuated them later in that timeline. so you know students are still there. you have to take the initiative to go through and make sure that they're safe. again, i think -- obviously a lot of decisions that are made that were wrong at the end of the day. texas dps said that. as more and more information comes out in the days ahead, there's a lot of hard questions to be answered and some questionable choices that are made at the end of the day. we'll be looking to make sure that these officers were properly resourced, did they have the equipment that they needed. if they didn't, why didn't they have it.
most all uniformed law enforcement officers properly trained and on the front line should have the necessary equipment to do whatever they need to do in this case and not have to wait 30, 40 minutes for more individuals with more tactical gear. >> they had tactical gear. that's the question here. do you wait for the equipment? parents outside said we'll go in. give us your guns. help us. we'll go in and rescue our children. you said yesterday and we all said this, the border patrol agents were hero. now we find out the timeline. they arrived at 12:16. they didn't breach the classroom until 12:50. 34 minutes to get in the rule and kill the shooter. you find that unusual? >> well, i do. i don't know the reasoning behind that, right? i can understand a little bit of a delay of the time that they arrive on the scene to ascertain what's going on, to get an update. to do their job at the end of the day. the border patrol and the bortac
unit are first responders. they're not going to be the tactical on-scene commander there. they're there as backup. they have a certain set of equipment and skill set that many police officers don't have. so it doesn't surprise me that they were first through the door or the second through the door. they're heros. but they should have been put in a position to act sooner. >> i have to go but i wanted to know. you talk about the acting commander, the tactical unit on the scene. the decision made that we're going to stand back because it's no longer active shooter. can that decision be overridden in the field? >> in theory, yes, can it be overridden. you have a chain of command in law enforcement like military what they do requires belief in the chain of command. they don't like to overrule. you're always in certain situations. i got to think that this is one
where we said this is not the wisest decision. i can still -- we know children are still in there. maybe there's another way to do this. >> the parents could hear the gun shots. they could hear the gun shots, begging with police. everybody could hear the gun shots and yet they stood. chad wolf, great to get your insight. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >> tomorrow marking two weeks since another mass shooting rocked the nation leaving ten dead in buffalo on primarily black shoppers in a grocery store. now the buffalo news reporting that authorities are investigating whether there was advanced knowledge of the attack. the outlet reporting that just 30 minutes before the rampage, the accused gunman invited six people to read about his plan in a online chat room where racial hatred was regularly discussed. the fbi is reportedly tracking down those individuals.
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>> you're doing nothing. >> no. he needs to get out of here. >> this is totally predictable -- >> sir, you're out of line. sir, you're out of line. leave this auditorium. i can't believe you're a sick son of a bitch that would come to a deal like this to make a political issue. >> trace: governor abbott cancelled his appearance at the nra to be in uvalde. he sent a prerecorded message inside. the nra said this insaid. "although an investigation is underway, we recognize this was the act of alone deranged criminal. we will reflect on those events, pray for the victims and pledge to redouble our commitment to making our schools secure." meantime president biden and the first lady will head to uvalde
sunday to pay respects. ahead of thevisit, he's asking congress to pass meaningful gun control and asking to put somebody other than vice president harris in charge of their efforts. >> we have the present domestic policy adviser. she's looking at the whole of government approach. she has decades of experience co ornating enter agency processes. there's no one better. >> in knowments, james comber. first, gillian turner is live with more. good afternoon to you. >> good afternoon, trace. right now the president is enrude to delaware. as you mentioned sunday, he and the first lady will head to uvalde. they will meet there with the families of the school shooting victims as well as community and faith leaders. one person that the white house
is not committing to engagement with is the border patrol agent that was injured while in the line of fire on tuesday. listen. >> is the president making any -- he he considering calling or reaching out to the agent that was injured while protecting students during the shoot something. >> i don't have anything to preview or read out for you. as you know, he's going to go sunday. >> on top of the president's policy agenda, gun control. white house officials are weighing his options for executive action. the press secretary insists they're very limited. >> what we're saying right now is that we need help. we need assistance. the president cannot do this alone. congress needs to act. >> now, as a candidate, joe biden was noncommittal if the president could ban assault weapons. vice president harris felt
different. >> does the vice president have a point there? >> some things you can. many things you can't. >> let the senator answer. >> i would say hey, joe, instead of say nothing, we can't, let's say yes we can. [laughter] >> as you heard karine jean-pierre say just a moment ago, the president is relying on susan rice who is the head of his domestic policy council, former president obama's national security adviser to lead this gun effort. they're not standing up a task force on gun violence. he's not appointing a gun violence czar. both of these are tools that he's leaned on dozens of times to promote his policy agenda. >> trace: gillian turner live. thank you. let's bring in kentucky congressman james comer, the tom republican on the house oversight reform committee. thanks for joining us. the way the president is going after this gun reform, you think
it's unusual as well? >> it is unusual. the president has every right to go to texas. the president should go to texas. that's part of what the job of being president is. but when we look at solutions, i think the democrats were too quick to point fingers, too quick to advocate for their liberal gun control policies without getting the information in. as we heard, there's a lot of new information coming in about problems with the response from law enforcement. i have questions about the security around the schools. in kentucky, we had a terrible school shooting a couple years ago. we made an investment in trying to make our schools a lot more secure. you have to go through two doors and be buzzed in to get in just about every school in kentucky now. that's a wise investment. that's an investment that would be bipartisan support for in congress. i think we have to focus on school security and move forward from there when we talk about preventing these terrible
disasters in the future. >> trace: i heard you talk about that a couple days. i looked and did homework. you're right. the school security thing, it's hard to say because, you know, you don't know how many attempts there were. but it appears that kentucky has really had this robust response to school security and anecdotally it appears to be working. >> it should. it has thus far. knock on wood. let's hope and pray it continues to work. this is something that every american deserves that sends their kids to public schools to be confident that that school is fortified, that that school is secure. it doesn't appear that that was the scenario in texas. we also need to make sure that law enforcement are properly trained. that is something that is coming in to question here with what happened in texas a few days ago. >> trace: getting low on time here, sir. you go through every shooting. i was at columbine for 3 1/2
weeks. since then, there's protocols. but the calls for gun reform, for stricter gun laws, you know, the experts will tell you, it didn't change one single mass shooting over the past 23 years. what is the hope now with new gun reform? >> well, unfortunately you can't legislate against evil. evil people will do evil things. criminals are going to always have access to guns. the problem that the democrats want to talk about is they say the solution is simple. it's gun control. make it impossible to purchase guns. make it harder to purchase guns. in cities where democrats have passed gun control, excessive extreme gun control like chicago and washington d.c. where i spend a lot of time, you have more gun violence in those cities than anywhere. so just passing laws isn't going to solve the problem. it's against the law to shoot at anyone. so criminals will break the law. we have to invest in security,
we have to make sure that these schools are not only fortified but the schools have resource officers that are properly trained who understand how to respond in situations like this. we need to focus on mental health issues. prior to covid, we had a lot of mental health issues in this country with children. i think a lot of that is because of society, because of the social media, the instagrams and the pressure involved around that. video games with excessive violence. there's a lot of causes to mental health issues. then you have the excessive lockdowns. from what we heard from teachers all over america, the mental issues have been exacerbated because of the excessive covid lockdowns. >> trace: and a number of years since we focused on mental health issues. thanks, congressman. >> thanks for having me on. >> trace: we're also on verdict wash in washington d.c. as the jury deliberates in the trial of
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about donald trump and russia during the 2016 election. a tip the fbi says fizzled out. david spunt is live with more. good afternoon. >> hi, trace. good afternoon. jurors will deliberate another 90 minutes or so as i look at the clock. even if they have a verdict, it won't be read until tuesday. the reason why, the judge left for the long weekend. he wants to be there when the verdict is delivered and if the jurors have questions. michael sussmann charged with lying to the fbi specifically to the man on screen right, james baker. when sussmann came to baker in 2016 saying he had information on alpha bank via a computer server. alpha bank does have ties to the kremlin. kremlin said that sussmann was delivering the information on
his own. sussmann went on behalf of the campaign, pedalled to story to the media. jurors saw billing evidence that sussmann build the clinton campaign on the same day that he met with baker. sussmann's team said he did nothing wrong, have a long working relationship with the fbi and would never lie to the bureaus. jurors have to look at if his statement was false and fictitious. did he acted knowingly with intention to break the law. the final question was the statement made in the executive branch of government. in this case, which is the fbi. if jurors believe the government proved their case, they're instructed to fund sussmann guilty. the verdict form is very simple. it's guilty or not guilty on one charge. it's a false statement case. court will be back on tuesday when we may likely hear the verdict. trace? >> david spunt live in d.c. thank you. america's foreign policy focus
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most serious long-term challenge to the international order, that's mosted by the people's republic of china. >> congressman michael waltz, a former green beret commander. thanks for coming on. you heard secretary blinken there. president biden raised a few eyebrows in asia. he said if china invades taiwan, that the u.s. will react. what what are your thoughts? >> the speech that secretary blinken gave. he's right. china is the adversary in modern american history that has the military capability, the economic, the diplomatic capability to supplant the united states in leading the global world order. they're developing the capability to do so and he's telling his country to prepare for war. what is interesting, trace, the
speech sounded a lot like a trump administration speech. i would have think mike pompeo wrote it. it talked about fair trade, talked about investment in america, which sounds like america first, the quad alliance with japan, india, australia. here's where it was really lacking in terms of actions. the defense budget is going backwards when you account for inflation. president biden is at the naval academy. i hope he explains the fact that the navy is retiring more ships this year under their proposal than its building. not to mention protecting our technology and not to mention the billions flowing from wall street, hollywood, academia, you name it, in to china funding their military build-up. so it's a mixed bag in terms of them executing the rhetoric and the strategy they're proposing. >> trace: i talked to a lot of
generals that can't lead me down the path to show me if in fact if china invaded taiwan, how the u.s. would go about militarily opposing that. i want to move on that. you've been a critic of china. you said recently that the chinese communist party is stealing its way to the top. what did you mean? what is the remedy to stop that, congressman? >> yeah, so the chinese communist party as a matter of state policy is stealing technology and applying to it their military. they're doing it through cyber, doing it through our universities, through our research institutions and if they can't doing that way, they do it through mergers and businesses. many of the businesses distressed by covid and do it in nano technology, artificial intelligence, stealth materials and apply that over. we have to wake up as a country that they're in a cold war with us and they seek to defeat us
and supplant us. the way they mean to do it ultimately is watching america bankrupt itself like the soviet union bankrupted and couldn't compete. >> trace: seems like a fair assessment. thanks, congressman. have a great holiday weekend. >> thank you. >> trace: the major spending plan pushed by president biden that may soon get the backing of democratic senator joe manchin. remember the guy that got in the way of build back better? now there's a change of heart even as inflation soars. that is next. you see, son, with a little elbow grease, you can do just about anything. thanks, dad. that's right, robert. and it's never too early to learn you could save with america's number one motorcycle insurer. that's right, jamie. but it's not just about savings. it's about the friends we make along the way. you said it, flo. and don't forget to floss before you brush. your gums will thank you. -that's right, dr. gary. -jamie?
in talks with chuck schumer that could revive the build package. the talks are respectful and encouraging. mercedes schlapp is here and a former trump 2020 senior campaign adviser. mercedes, you saw the headline there. joe manchin appears to willing to negotiation to get build back betterish. a little smaller. gas is still $6.75. it's not the best time to throw more money in to the economy. you think? >> i think for senator joe manchin and i would say for republicans, the goal would be how do we increase domestic energy production. that is a critical piece of this. that's why you're seeing joe manchin saying we have to come back to the table. he wants to move forward with a scaled back piece of
legislation. republicans, even the rino-types like mitt romney i don't think this is promising. they're thinking the only way democrats can pass through any of these provisions will need to be through the reconciliation process, which of course mark penn knows well, which again, would require a majority where the democrats could deliver somebody for the american people. but not a big ginormous environmental climate change plan that is very unpopular. >> trace: that's the key, mark, this wouldn't be the 1.7 trillion that they talked about. it would be scaled down. but on the other side, kind of a win for the democrats going into the mid-terms, right? anything is anything. >> well, we don't really know. i've seen the same story in december and march. i think manchin and schumer have been on and off again. it's unusual putting a package like this together before the
election. i'm skeptical this will happen. if it does happen, it will depend on the content. i think americans want progress but they don't want to tax and spend. >> trace: interesting. elon musk was asked if we're approaching a recession. he responded the following. yes. but this is a good thing. it has been raining money on fools for too long. some bankruptcies need to happen. the covid state at home stuff has tricked people that you don't have to work hard. rude awakening inbound. mark, what do you think? >> these a pretty in your face comment. i think people are getting back to work. you're seeing there's more traffic. everybody is going to enjoy the great holiday here. there's some truth to what he says, which is that obviously there's been asset bubbles. obviously the stock market came back down to reality over the last couple months. but i don't think anyone should wish a recession on the american
public. >> trace: that's what i would think. your thoughts, mercedes? >> yeah, it's easy for a billionaire to say this is a good thing, a recession is a good thing. it's different when you have everyday americans, 2/3s of americans that are going living paycheck to paycheck dealing with gas prices, high gas prices, high food prices, a baby formula shortage. is there an enormous amount of stress being put on the american families. spending our way out is not the solution either. >> trace: i'm saying, i pulled out a receipt from nine months ago on a burrito place. $9. that same burrito today is $14. somebody has to explain how that happened. mercedes, mark, sorry for the earpiece. thanks for coming on. we appreciate it. on this memorial day weekend, the story of a gold star widow that had to find out more about her husband's ultimate sacrifice. that's next. >> i want everyone to get out, we all want you to have a great
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killed by isis militants in africa. it was a start of a painstaking effort to find out what happened in his final moments. it's been part of her work to make sure that gold star families are given the transparency that they deserve. >> michelle black's husband, staff sergeant brian black is one of four green berets killed in action in a 2017 ambush in the african nation of niger. when the u.s. army released an investigation, she felt she wasn't given the full story. >> i interviewed them as well as upper and lower level officers. with that i found the truth finally. >> the truth she says was leaders at u.s. africa command shifted the blame to lower level men including those that were killed on the ground and excused those that had ordered the mission. >> i don't think the hole military is bad. you get a few bad individuals and they're the ones that carry these things out unfortunately.
>> then acting secretary of defense patrick shanahan accepting the findings of an investigation into the deadly attack saying in 2019 "having examined an independent review by a senior general officer of the investigation into the 2017 ambush in niger, i am satisfied that all findings awards and account ability actions were thorough and appropriate." michelle compiled what she found in a book called "sacrifice, a gold star widow's fight for the truth." now she's leading a nonprofit called soldier's alliance, she helps soldiers and googled star families investigate what happened to their loved ones overseas and get them the support that they need. >> the biggest ones that i see right now is lack of emotional support as in counselling or, you know, being able to go and see a psychologist. you have to figure in our case,
there were multiple things that happened between just the draw mats tick sudden loss of my husband to it being a national news story and on every tv across the country to a video being released that was on every social media outlet once it was released. you can't go online running into it even now. these are things that we need to have available to these families because it takes them years, if ever, to recover from. >> ahead of this memorial day weekend, michelle says the holiday can be particularly hard for many gold star families. >> sometimes it's hard for us when we hear happy and memorial together. to us memorial means death. so happy and memorial don't really mesh for a lot of us that lost somebody. >> but says people should not miss out on the fun. asks americans to do one thing to remember what the day is all
about. >> we don't want you to quit having a good time. what we would love is if you learned somebody's name and raised a glass and remembered them. >> trace: on this memorial day we're honoring some american heros that you may not know about. it's martha's fox nation special secret history of world war ii. the story is of the u.s. ghost army that tricked adolph hitler in crucial battles of the war. watch. >> there were powerful search lights that shined up in the clouds to light up the area so they could see what we wanted them to see. >> germans flying overhead sam farm yards turned into phony repair depots, a forest converted into a decoy motor pool. they even saw fake tank tracks and fired at the fake artillery.
every small detail was vitally important. >> trace: the secret history of world war ii is available monday, memorial day at foxnation.com. that is "the story" friday, may 27, 2022. as always, "the story" goes on. we'll see you back here next week. have a good weekend and a thoughtful memorial day. hug somebody. >> let us do this, man! come on. let us do this. we need to get everybody back. >> i have to protect my children. >> what happened to the security? >> i don't understand exactly wh