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months of lunacy in the classroom that we felt like we needed an update on thats as well. >> dana: subscribe to fox nation and check it out. >> pete: six episodes on fox nation right now in addition to battle for the american mind. >> jesse: do you know how to log on to fox nation, judge? >> judge jeanine: i sure do. i have fox nation. >> dana: castles u.s.a. >> judge jeanine: that means i can't go to europe. >> dana: "special report" suspect next. hey, bret. >> bret: hey, dana. i have fox nation, too. thank you. good evening from boston i'm bret baier. we are coming to you tonight from the edward m. kennedy institute in boston. we're located in a full sized replica of the u.s. senate chamber. earlier today i hosted the senate's project first debate here between south carolina republican senator lindsey graham and independent vermont senator bernie sanders. it streamed live on fox nation. and you can stream it now on demand on fox nation as well. we will have highlights from
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that event in just a few minutes. but, first, breaking tonight, ♪ the average price for a gallon of gasoline in this country is soaring past the $5 mark, a figure never before seen in the u.s. wall street took the skyrocketing inflation hard. the dow losing almost 3 percentage points today. the s&p 500 dropping nearly 4. the nasdaq losing four and two thirds. president biden continues to put the blame on others, vladimir putin, oil companies, but an increasing number of americans are blaming president biden, according to the latest poll numbers. that is now leading many democrats to both publicly and anonymously question whether the president should seek a second term. white house correspondent peter doocy leads us off live tonight from the north lawn. good evening, peter. >> good evening, bret. a quick check of numbers that have changed since president biden's inauguration day, gas prices are now twice as high and the average price, the dow jones
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industrial average stocks are now trading lower. but officials around here insist they have got the economy in great shape. >> we know families are concerned about inflation and the stock market. >> now that all dow jones industrial average gains under biden are gone. the white house is changing their tune on the stock market from a month ago. >> we do not -- that's not something that we keep an eye on every day. >> pete: but when things are good the president wants credit. >> it has hit record after record after record on my watch. >> as stocks drop, gas prices soar now more than $5 a gallon as president biden weigh as trip to a major oil producer. >> have you decided, sir, whether to you go to saudi arabia. >> no, not yet. >> but within a minute he had. >> it happens to be a large meeting taking place in saudi arabia. that's the reason i'm going. >> two days later no clarity. >> i don't have anything to announce for you today. >> now some democrats are going on the record saying maybe biden isn't best for them in 2024.
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david axelrod tells the "new york times" he looks his age and isn't as agile in front of a camera as he once was. and this has fed a narrative about competence that isn't rooted in reality. >> your close ally is president biden running in '24 and should he? >> yes, he is. >> if he does, he may not have the backing of aoc. >> i think if the president has a vision and that's something certainly we are all willing to gain and examine when the time comes. >> that's not a yes. >> yeah, you know -- >> progressives push the president to push bigger programs. president obama says plans like build back better would make inflation much worse. >> ironic way you almost have to thank joe manchin for blocking that because $6.5 trillion of spending in this economy would make these numbers look small. >> white house officials claim packages the president has signed have helped including the covid relief american rescue plan. >> did not and it led to this
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economic -- historic economic boom that we are seeing with jobs. >> historic inflation? >> no. that is not -- that is -- that is not -- that is not how we are seeing the american rescue plan. >> pete: but the current treasury secretary janet yellen said it did contribute to inflation. larry summers says it did contribute to inflation. officials around here say none of their plans have led to higher prices. that is still putin's fault. bret? >> bret: peter doocy live on the north lawn, peter, thank you. here are the final numbers from wall street. the dow cratered 876 today. the s&p 500 fell 151, the nasdaq plummeted 531. let's get some analysis from david as monday from fox business. david, good evening. >> good evening. >> this is a tough day. >> it has been tough for a week.
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sometimes you have good days. sometimes you have bad days but right now main street and wall street are converging with their concerns because, frankly, as americans begin to wonder whether they can afford the food on their table they're definitely sure they can't afford the high ticket items that are costing companies that are represented by wall street. you know, if americans aren't buying corporations aren't making a profit and their figures come down. so, again, wall street and main street are completely aligned now in fearing both inflation and a possible recession to come. >> bret: yeah, the fed is obviously making this move when it happens. we're not exactly sure. but it is going to increase rates. "new york times" writes it this way: fed may discuss biggest interest rate increase since 1994 which it lifts filters through the economy to make borrowing of all kinds including mortgage debt and business loans more expensive. slower command can help price pressures to ease as fire buyers
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compete for goods and services. but interest rates are a blunt tool. it's difficult to slow the economy with precision. likewise it is tough to predict how much conditions need to cool to bring inflation down convincingly. it's tough turning off this spigot to make sure that they have this so-called soft landing. >> well, and they are so far behind the curve. you mentioned larry summers or maybe peter doocy did. he and other democrats have been warning that spending all this money that the biden administration came in spending was going to hurt us in terms of inflation because you are spending money you don't have and you are printing money in order to pay the debts and that causes inflation. larry summers saw it. you have steve rattner. a lot of other democrats saw it as well. but janet yellen, the treasury secretary and even powell, chairman of the federal reserve, and that's supposed to be an independent body, janet yellen, of course, is tied to the administration, so she is putting the best face on things. but powell should have seen what larry surges and rattner and
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other democrats were seeing that it was simply impossible to avoid the inflation that was to come. instead they first denied it and called it transitory and now admit that it's up and a problem but blaming putin on it instead of their own actions. it's got to change. or americans are not only going to be facing higher prices but also a possible recession. which means their jobs could be at risk. >> bret: all right. wish we had better news. david, thank you. >> you got it. >> bret: a house panel investigating last year's capitol riot is focusing on what it calls the big lie. former president trump's insistence that the stolen 2020 election was stolen or that the 2020 election was stolen from him. congressional correspondent chad pergram has the latest tonight from capitol hill. >> a squadron of former trump officials with the singular message for the then president about winning re-election as states tabulated votes. >> very, very, very bleak. we have pegged it as 5 to 10%.
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not a very good optimistic outlook. >> jason miller told the committee that rudy giuliani called the president late. >> the mayor was definitely intoxicated. there was suggestions by mayor giuliani to go and declare victory and say won it outright. >> the committee played i have the video of president trump refusing up people about elections. >> this is a fraud on the american public. there is an embarrassment to our country. we were getting ready to win this election, frankly we did win this election. >> and then he said depositions from shocked trump officials as the president fanned voter fraud flames. >> i saw absolutely zero basis for the allegations. >> i thought if he really believes this stuff, he has lost contact with -- he has become detached from reality. >> the trump team went to court and lost at every turn. >> the simple fact is that the
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trump campaign did not make its case. >> an alarmed white house attorney confronted lawyer john eastman who pushed election conspiracies. >> i said to him, are you out of your f'ing mind? i only want to hear two words coming out of your mouth from now on. orderly transition. >> new tonight the committee says mr. trump raised $250 million to fuel election challenges. much of it in small dollar donations. >> not only was there the big lie, there was the big rip off. >> two more hearings this week on wednesday the push to get the doj involved in the election. thursday the pressure campaign on former vice president mike pence. bret? >> bret: chad, meantime a coalition of bipartisan senators now has this agreement on a plan to curb gun violence. what's in that? >> well, this was a breakthrough
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imagine number of 60 help states set up their own red flag laws it also enhances background checks for those younger than 21. it requires a review of juvenile mental health records. liberals wanted to raise the age from 18 to 21 to buy assault weapons. but the g.o.p. rejected that bret? >> bret: we will follow it chad, thank you. let's bring in fox news seen ler political analyst brit hume. brit, good evening. let's talk about this january 6th committee and what the ultimate goal is here as you watcher it. >> bret: well, so far, what they have laid out is a set of facts with which we have been familiar for, what, nearly two years now. and, you know, if their case was that trump whipped up the crowd, that brought them to -- and
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brought them to washington to protest the theft of the election from him, that would be compelling and it would also be not new. but the committee has a larger ambition, as we know. that is not only to prove that trump was responsible which many of us have been saying for many years myself included but that this was part -- that he knew there was nothing to his case. he pressed it anyway. and put together and led a seven part conspiracy to reverse the election and damage our democracy in the process. that's the claim. so far i don't think they have moved the ball on that very much but that's what they are trying to achieve. it remains to be seen if they can do that. >> bret: right. but i guess the question still is are they moving towards trying to make a legal case against donald trump or one that is a political case to somehow prevent him from being a factor in 2024? >> brit: well, i think they are
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doing both. jamie raskin, one of the committee members has said, you know, part of what they are doing is to create something that can be referred to the justice department for possible prosecution. what strikes me about this interpret that if they succeed either by damaging him or staining him, such that he is either unable or for legal or political reasons to run again, they might end up finding out that they have done the republican party a great service because i think a great many republicans think they can't win with trump at the head of the ticket again. they are afraid of his supporters and don't want to come out against him directly. but they like him to go away. the effect of this committee is to make his possible candidacy go away, i think a great many republicans would privately be very glad. >> bret: well, we will follow it each stretch the way. brit hume, thank you. >> bret: up next, will the u.s. supreme court overturn the roe v. wade abortion decision? how might that play out in washington and around the country? we will have a live report when
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♪ >> bret: much of the country experiencing a major heat wave tonight. temperatures are expected to
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soar above 100 degrees in many places. the national weather service says the system is stretching from central nebraska to west virginia. north into wisconsin and south into mississippi. the high temperatures are also expected in southwest parts of texas, experts are advising people to stay indoors and keep hydrated. meantime major flooding swept away at least one bridge, washed out roads and set off mud slides in yellow national park today. authorities have closed entrances evacuated visitors from that area. park officials say the flooding hit after recent unprecedented rains. power is out in some areas of the park. now to capitol hill and the supreme court. we are still waiting for a decision from the u.s. supreme court on the challenge to the roe v. wade abortion ruling. >> the case was not among those announced today. draft decision overturning roe was leaked several weeks ago. tonight correspondent david spunt looks at some of the
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possible scenarios of what could happen. sphoo h. [shouting. [. >> anticipation mixed with anxiety outside the tall gates surrounding the u.s. supreme court this morning ahead of what could be the most significant ruling in more than 50 years. the justices in the coming days are set to decide whether to uphold mississippi's ban on abortion after 15 weeks. the justices could move to overturn roe's nationwide guarantee of abortion access. if roe is overturned, where a woman lives may determine if she can legally get an abortion. >> i do not believe that -- that abortion should have ever been a federal issue. this should be something that is -- that is fought at the state level. >> we will be there for the win of other states. >> we will stand up. we will fight back. >> look to new york for a nation leading response to this crisis. >> some john roberts may be
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forge ago compromise. >> body going on behind the scenes. that said, i would be surprised if the final outcome dramatically different than what we saw in the draft opinion. [shouting] >> the impending decision comes as the safety of justices is also front and center. a 26-year-old man sits behind bars charged with attempting to kill justice brett kavanaugh one week lay almost radio silence from president biden. more protests are expected outside the court in the next few days. last month a u.s. senate passed a bill to enhance protection for justices and members of their family on a bipartisan basis, clean-up is unusual in washington, bret, but we do know now this has been held up in the house we are told as soon as
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tomorrow house members may take a vote to protect supreme court justices and their families, bret? >> bret: david spunt outside the supreme court. thank you. up next, senators lindsey graham and bernie sanders debate the hot issues here at the kennedy institute in boston. we will have some of the lively exchange. first, here's what some of our fox affiliates around the country are covering tonight. fox 8 in cleveland. country singer toby keith reveals he was recently diagnosed with stomach cancer and is privately receiving treatment. the 60-year-old keith has canceled the scheduled performance next month at the ohio state fair. boise idaho patriot front group considered to be white supremacists by some near an idaho pride event saturday. the men were packed into the the back of a u-haul truck with right gear. the local police chief say the men intended to stage a right there. and this is a live look at slangs from fox 13. one of the big stories there
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♪ >> bret: welcome back to the edward m. kennedy institute for the u.s. senate in boston. feels like you are in the senate. earlier today i moderated a debate here between south carolina republican senator lindsey graham and independent vermont senator bernie sanders. it was part of what's called the
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senate project. it was streamed live today on fox nation. you can also get it on fox nation now. the oxford style debate is designed to have substantive discussion of policy in the hopes of finding some common ground like the senate of old. with late senators ted kennedy and orrin hatch, for example, men with much different views of the world who came together to get significant legislation passed in the meantime kinship senator sanders won the coin toss to begin the debate we begin there. >> the working class and the middle class of this country are in serious trouble. we are moving toward an oligarchic form of society where a small number of billionaires, not only have extraordinary wealth, they have extraordinary political power. >> i have a different take on things than bernie. i just want to remind you a little bit about where we are at. the democrats have the house,
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the senate, and the white house. their agenda is not working. crime is rampant, this defund the police effort that you have been leading and others has taken a toll. the bottom line is it's a tough time to be a cop now. who wants to go into law enforcement? it's time to let the cops know you're not the problem. the criminal is the problem. >> bret: senator sanders your response. >> i never called for the defunding the police. >> i stand corrected. >> what i do believe in is a former mayor worked very well with our police department. we need community based policing that reflects the people in those communities. we have to fight racism in every way that we can. but i have never called for defunding the police. now, it's interesting to hear senator graham speak because other than the partisan rhetoric, what you don't hear him talking about are in fact the most issues facing this country. i didn't hear lindsey talk about the crisis of climate change.
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>> at the end of the day i believe climate change is real but that's no reason to destroy the fossil fuel industry in this country. we're moving to electric cars but that's going to be 2034, 2035. your party has made us miserable when it comes to filling up our tank. >> well, let ngts talk about gas prices you are right. they are outrageously high. i think the president should bring the major oil companies in and tell them we are going to have a windfall profits tax on what they are doing in order to stop them from ripping off the american people. what you need is a government that represents all of us and not just wealthy powerful special interest. do you know what the american people want? theyed want medicare for all. joyce and beauty of private insurance. talk to the millions of workers who lost their private insurance during covid. >> in terms of your proposal for medicare for all, i am
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challenging you and your party who run the senate to bring it to the floor for a vote and we will see where the votes are let's go back to gas prices. we should be producing more oil and gas here. and when you say it's the oil company's fault? bull. they are in a business. the reason they are not producing more is because it's impossible to produce more under this administration. and if bernie was in charge and people like him, it would get worse, not better. >> bret: senators, thank you. that is the end of segment one. if you will, come join us at these desks. we will make a transition to the seated moderated section and we will go deeper into some of the discussions you have talked about. senator sanders, president biden has said recently that this is and senator graham mentioned it, part of a giant transition for the u.s. economy. is pain at the pump part of that transition to a greener economy? >> let me say this, that in
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terms of inflation as i'm sure you know, we're looking at an international phenomena. create millions of jobs transforming our energy system away from fossil fuel to energy efficiency and sustainable energy. and i think at the same time i think the president has got to call those oil companies, those executives into the oval office and say stop ripping off the american people. >> bret: do you think there is any part of that to senator sanders' point? >> you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out. their campaign agenda was to destroy fossil fuel production. it's not gas wanting to produce oil and gas it's the policies have made it almost impossible here at home. russia, which is invading ukraine and one thing bernie and i agree is that putin sucks. so,. >> bret: i assume you concede that point? >> i'm not in favor of the vulgarity but the intent is correct.
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>> putin is a bad guy. there you go. i will use the other word. the bottom line is, people know when they go to the pump it doesn't have to be this way. i don't see anything changing. until you change leadership. >> but right now we are looking for the first time in my lifetime and yours, at a real threat to the existence of democracy in america and do you know why? because we have a former president whose name is donald trump goes around the country telling people hey, i won the election. in fact, i probably won it by a landslide but they stole it. they took it away from me. all right. now, that happens to be what we call a big lie. >> bret: can you address that, senator? can you say definitively the election was not stolen? >> yeah. i voted to certify the election. there were some mail-in balloting chicanery out there but no, no, i voted to certify the election. president biden is the president.
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>> he won the election? >> yeah. >> okay. what about all of the characters out there saying he didn't. republican candidates that you want people to vote for. >> what about the people saying defund the police. you talk to them i will talk to that crowd. >> your crowd is a lot larger than my crowd. >> why is he talking about trump because he can't talk about anything else. >> ha ha. >> bret: senator sanders you chubled before when senator graham mentioned socialism. i want to let you deal with that. >> i understand we can do red baiting. i guess it works among a certain. >> you are a socialist, aren't you? >> i'm a democratic socialist? >> the policies i advocate are taking place all over europe. >> you describe problems but your answer is always the government. it's always socialism. >> let's ask the american people where they think it makes sense that somebody who makes a million dollars a year or $10 million a year or $100 million a year pays the same amount into social security as somebody who makes.
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>> let's ask that? the polling has given us the answer they think it is. >> why aren't we voting on it? this is fun. >> it is fun. >> the reason he doesn't want to vote on it. >> i want to vote it. >> you are in charge. let's vote. >> bret: can i get the sergeant at arms here? no, i'm sorry. let me ask the question this way. the national debt, senator sanders stands at -- more than $30 trillion. it's 133% of g.d.p. gross domestic product. should americans care about that. >> yeah. >> is that a problem long term? >> yes, it is. it is. it's something we want to deal with. lindsey apparently thinks that people just love paying money to the insurance companies. if i go to the american people and i say hey, bret, guess what? you are going to pay more. you are going to pay 5,000 more in taxes but you are going to pay 8,000 less in premiums to deductibles and co-payments. i know he works for fox, maybe he can't say it but most people would say bernie, that's a
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pretty good deal. you saved me 3,000 bucks and you are guaranteeing comprehensive healthcare. >> bret: senator, i was waiting for the fox, i was waiting for it okay. okay. let's see if we can get to something you all agree on. is there a common ground on any issue. >> sure. >> that the two of you can see eye to eye on and what is that? >> i don't know. you know, i'm on the budget committee with bernie and it's been a blast. look, i thoroughly enjoy it there are things we can do. here's where i think upper income americans like both of us, i am willing to take less from social security. i'm willing to have a different cola and reshape my benefits. i'm willing to pay more into part a and b. >> so i think you should lift of the cap completely. you will make social security solvent for 75 years, solve the legitimate issue you raised. and, yes, jeff bezos and elon musk will pay a lot more in taxes. so on what?
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on medicare. >> bret: on the common ground question. i didn't get it out of that answer. >> what you got is he sees it as a problem. i see it as a problem. all right? medicare i see medicare solvency as a problem. that is why i want us to stop spending twice as much per person on healthcare as any other country on earth. >> there is a bipartisan agreement currently on gun control legislation, senator sanders, you are not as of yet. is that a common ground issue around the edges that don't deal with everything you want that you all can get to. >> look, if that bill, you are right, it hasn't been written yet, we have an outline of it. that bill came to the floor would i vote for it? i'm quite sure i would. it is a step forward. i think clearly it does not go far enough. >> so the fact that bernie s. willing, bret, to vote for this is very encouraging to me we will see how it shapes out. >> bret: senator sanders, senator graham we will have to leave it at that thank you very much.
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>> bret: thanks to senators graham and sanders. you can get all of that debate on fox nation right now on demand. we're also going to repackage the hour and it will run on fox news channel this saturday coming up 7:00 p.m. eastern time. up next, the battle to win the republican nomination in a senate race g.o.p. considers crucial to its takeover plans in november. ♪ ♪ (man) [whispering] what's going on? (burke) it's a farmers policy perk. get farmers and you could save money by doing nothing. just be claim-free on your home insurance for three years. (man) that's really something. (burke) get a whole lot of something with farmers policy perks. (dad) bravo! (mom) that's our son! (burke) we should. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪
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♪ life size replica of the u.s. senate here at the edward m. kennedy institute. tonight we are getting a look at the mugshot of paul pelosi the husband of house speaker nancy pelosi from his arrest last month for driving under the influence. pelosi was detained in napa county, california. the picture was taken in the early morning hours of may 29th. it was released today. >> the district attorney's office is refusing to distribute any dash or body camera video from that arrest. saying it could jeopardize the ongoing investigation. ♪ >> in tonight's mid term focus
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the nevada senate primary for republicans, voters will choose a nominee to square off against incumbent democrat catherine tore cez mass stow who is considered vulnerable this year as the g.o.p. tries to gain control of the u.s. senate. fox business correspondent hillary vaughn reports tonight from reno. >> in nevada's closed republican primary on tuesday voters will pick who will go head to head with sitting democratic senator catherine cortez mass stow. former attorney general adam laxalt is a household name in nevada politics. his grandfather served as governor. >> i have been beating mass stow in every head to head poll come out on this race. we already are known in this state as someone who has a record. >> sam brown a war veteran and newcomer to politics and nevada after living in texas where he deployed to afghanistan. >> i will outwork catherine cortez mass stow i put in the sweat equity and that's was salt
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frontrunner criticized brown for being numbery in ned and losing a texas in texas before he moved here. >> i just moved from texas a few years ago. i came back. medevaced and recovered in san antonio. serving all of america including nevadaens when i was there. >> laxalt as a leg up when it comes to star power. hitting the trail with g.o.p. heavy weights and endorsement from former president trump which so far has been a big boost for candidates. 96% of people trump encorresponded or 91 out of 95 have won their primaries or advanced in their races. brown is brushing off laxalt's long list ftsd glitzy endorsements. >> we are not relying on political celebrities and surrogates from d.c. to come out and rescue us in a primary. >> cook political report calls masto the most endangered democrat in the midterms which means this could be the best bet for republicans to win back the
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senate. but republican voters here do not want to bet on the wrong horse. so some voters are making up their mind vegas style one voter said it was too tough to choose between the two so he flipped a coin. bret? >> bret: hillary vaughn live in reno. thanks. up next, the price of a gallon of gas soars past $5 a gallon. we will talk about the u.s. economy and today's capitol riot hearing session as well. first, beyond our borders tonight. actor kevin spacey is -- sexual offenses against three minute in britain. 62-year-old is due to appear in court thursday. spacey has been accused of similar actions in the u.s. he has denied all allegations. and this is a live look at tokyo. one of the big stories there tonight, a japanese foundation says its launching a fundraising drive to provide more than 1200 ukrainian evacuees in that country with additional financial support for language studies and other needs. acceptance of the ukrainian
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evacuees is unusual for japan which has extremely strict refugee and immigration policies despite its own shrinking labor force. just some of the other stories beyond our borders tonight, we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ i'm going to stand by you ♪ even if it brings me through ♪
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>> before the election it was
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possible to talk sense to the president, and while you sometimes had to engage in wrflging march. after the election he didn't seem to be listening. >> the trump campaign and surrogates mislead donors as to where their funds would go and what they would be used for. so not only was there the big lie there was the big ripoff. second committee hearing talking again former president trump and his efforts to say that the election was stolen. let's start there with our panel guy benson political editor at town and host of the guy benson show on fox news radio. kimberley strassel and harold ford jr. former tennessee congressman and co-host of "the five." harold, where do you think this
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is going as you look at the last two committee hearings? >> well, first of all, thanks for having me and i am glad you are there at the kennedy is school i think the wage the former president has to be wondering if this is leads to more than what's before this committee. i think it's important that it be aired to the public to the country those who supported president trump and even adhered to the belief he is the winner and even democrats, those who are glad he is out of office but some of those who may not be loud enough about protesting and demanding action outside the houses of the supreme court justices. our politics have gone to a bad place. that's why i started with i'm
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glad you are where you are. that debate was civil and serious. aimed for outcome not invitement. that's what politics is when it's at its best. the world looks up to american politics. i hope this hearing if it does nothing more than remind americans who we are and politics revered around the globe when we are at our best. >> bret: kimberly, your thoughts? >> i agree with harold. that there is a lot of interesting information and that americans definitely deserve to be clue ghood that. a lot of people still have a lot of questions about that day. i think the more concerning thing for some people as they watch this, especially if you see comment like that from congresswoman lofgren and others is the committee using this as a basis to try to build a case for some sort of criminal referral to the department of justice. some sort of justice afterward against donald trump or others for their actions leading up to or on the day of january 6th?
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then we move beyond the realm of educating. having a discussion. talking about how we make sure this doesn't happen again and, again, throwing this into partisan politics and a lot more upheaval going forward. >> bret: guy, i want to turn to all these stories popping up whether president biden is running in 2024 or not. the white house again said yes he is running. however, alexandria ocasio-cortez over the weekend saying this. >> if the president chooses to run again in 2024, i mean, first of all, i'm focused on winning this majority right now. and preserving a majority this year in 2022. so we will cross that bridge when we get to it. >> that's not a yes. >> yeah, you know, i think we should endorse when we get to it. >> bret: when we get to it, guy, "new york times" this weekend
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democrat whispers of no start to rise. really whispers are loud. >> yeah and they are getting louder. first of all, bret, your back drop is so amazing. so cool i have to say it. this story you are referencing in the "new york times" is long and it quotes a lot of people on the record and quite a few people on background with these rumors starting to swirl and grow louder people are starting to actually articulate joe biden's ability to lead that party into the next president election. aoc was squirm ago little bit over the questions. all hypothetical maybe we will cross the bridge if we come to it i'm still of the belief that he is not going to run again. i have no special knowledge of that i don't think he can i don't know if he can it's a very
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taxing process. i'm not sure there are many democrats that you would talk to anywhere in the country, including in the white house in a true moment of quiet honesty who would say yes, this is going well, and we are confident about this man's ability to be the standard-bearer again in a rough and tumble year long presidential campaign. and i think those noises are starting to gain more momentum if you will even though we are not five months out from the midterm election people are looking ahead. >> bret: harold, brit hume said what's interesting about the january 6th committee if they are successful. let's not say they are going after a conviction but going after denigrating somehow former president trump so that he doesn't run again or is incapable of running again politically, democrats would be hurt by that potentially because joe biden's case would be i'm the guy who beat donald trump. if there is another republican or up and comer, it becomes a different scenario what i hope
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it does i hope it does happen that way brit is smart. adherence to the rule of law. i remember when al gore lost the presidency to george w. bush. the court decided to stop counting votes in florida. i accepted that i was as big a supporter of him as perhaps anyone other than him. he even accepted it. can you imagine president trump if the state of pennsylvania, arizona, georgia where the governor of that state was joe biden's brother as jeb bush was in florida him how he would be behaving today? the rule of law should be venerated i would remind guy also i thought the rangers were going to be in the final of the nhl for the stanley cup lost six months is a long time and two and a half years is a long time. but if biden doesn't say it he will lose. >> the rangers aren't 79 years old. [laughter] >> bret: last word kimberly. >> whether a part of that? the rangers?
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i mean. >> bret: maybe biden. >> biden, look, the age as guy just pointed out is a real problem. it isn't just said among democratic parties look at the polls the polls are bothered ability to continue leading. >> bret: all right, panel, thanks so much. here at the edward m. kennedy senator we got a tour, behind the scenes from the chair here bruce pars lay. and we started just down the hall in senator kennedy's mock-up of the d.c. office. take a look. >> well, that is the goal of the senate project is to try to bring the senate back to the days of kennedy. >> bret: from the office it's only a short jaunt to the senate chamber. >> correct. >> bret: come on in. this is the senate chamber and it's almost exactly a replica. >> this is virtually the same
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building, the same space, the same dimensions. this was known as candy desk. the senator who sat here had to keep this stocked with candy. today when a senator walks out and wants some candy they get it right here. there is so much meaning to everything here. but, it is the only replica of the united states senate in the world. >> bret: all right. fair, balanced and unafraid from the edward m. kennedy institute. went over a little bit. "jesse watters primetime" is right now. hi, jesse. >> jesse: i will allow it. thanks, bret. call it a partial victory. moments ago the napa county d.a. was forced to release paul pelosi's mugshot from the night nancy was out of town when he got popped for drunk driving. today was a deadline for our foia request and what l