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us online or on the podcast good night from south carolina. life liberty and the vendors up next one —- "life, liberty & levin" is up next >> i am a martha maccallum to pay the biggest week in supreme court history in decades the court overturns roe versus wade. setting positions on life and back to the states where voters can decide. with it an already divided nation has a new firestorm. and a new issue likely to shift the political landscape. [cheering] fifty years of precedent undone. demonstrators take to the
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streets some elated. >> it's a celebration only for children in the womb but for women. >> others infuriated pre- >> stand up and fight back progressive victory for the sanctity of life it will save countless innocent children. it's a one incursion into liberties and rights of the people will lead to the next simile to the next grade. >> now president biden is vowing swift action and calling for calm. >> to keep all protest peaceful. >> will discuss how the ruling will affect state law across the country and what it means for the roberts court going forward. and talk with republican senator lindsey graham about the courts moves of abortion as well as second amendment rights and about his long fight to put conservative judges on the bench. plus how it all plays in the coming election. you as a georgia democrat stacy abrams of the ruling could impact her rematch against republican governor brian kemp. they will ask our sunday panel how resources high-stakes court
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rulings that shakeup the 2022 election. all right now on fox news sunday. arts and a flow again from fox news in washington as a supreme court monumental decision to overturn roe v wade sinks and across the country there is jubilation for those who'd never thought they stay at outrage from those who never thought they would witness this reversal. some clinics close her door and some emotions spill into destruction and tear gas. this at the arizona state house friday and in new york there are reports around 25 people were arrested. in washington fox turned to the midterms the political impact and calls out for congress to act on their own. the decision is one of the huge assigns three justices knotted by then president trump are
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having an enormous effect on places like guns and school choice as well put this as congress pulls off a bipartisan gun-control bill president biden sign that into a yesterday. in a moment will break down the supreme court ruling fox news legal correspondent shannon will also get reaction i should say from republican senator lindsey graham of the judiciary committee and from democrat stacy abrams is running for governor in georgia. but first we turned to alexander hoff who is life at the supreme court this morning where protesters are likely to be gathering later this morning. good morning to you alex. >> good morning martha. all is so quiet here at this hour. but we do expect crowds return at some point this afternoon for what will be the third day in a row. [cheering] corrects the reaction from pro-life groups with instantaneous and joyous. moments after the weight of what was lost for abortion and the
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hits hits. forty-nine years five months in two days roe v wade decision was handed down it was undone along with planned parenthood removing the federal constitutional right to an abortion. majority opinion authored by justice samuel alito read pretty we now overrule those decisions a return that authority to the people and their elected representatives. in a dissenting opinion justices breyer, kagan and wrote in overruling roe and casey this court betrays its guiding principles the rolling transfers of power over abortion policy to the state. twenty-two of which have either already or are now likely to ban abortion. for more have pending legislation. >> it is my hope that the rest of america will follow oklahoma's leader. >> virginia governor announced friday he will pursue a 15 week band. but a washington d.c. at least 16 other states there be no reduction in abortion access according to the pro- abortion
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research institute 11 democratic led legislatures moved to expand access in anticipation of the ruling. an invitation has been expended and transmitted our current are providers will take every >> present biden vowed to stand by the department of justice and guaranteeing a woman's right to travel for an abortion rate made a plea friday for the issue to become the cornerstone of the midterm elections. >> need to restore the protections of roe's law of the land. we need to elect officials who will do that. this fall, roe is on the ballot. >> i woke up this morning praying for this. and i never thought that it would happen progress or and lawmakers celebrate the ruling, the democrats took a tone of morning. >> today is one of the darkest days of our country has ever seen pickwick some taken to the streets to join protesters. [background noises] on friday protesters also gathered in front of the home of conservative justice clarence
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thomas. early this month congress passed a bill expanding 24 hour protection of justices to include their families. expert test out here have remained peaceful per gastric two people were taken into custody though after they appeared to port red paint beyond the security gate behind me that so far cleaned that up, martha. martha: alex hoff reported for the supreme court prejudgment of fox legal correspondent shannon bream. great to have it with us this morning. i was severe continuing she is or is senior legal correspondent i should point out as you all well know. have watched author of the week. tell us a little bit about the latest the impact of this is across the state, shannon? >> such a good job and touching on this there were trigger loss and actually go in both directions and states across the country for there are those that are tightening down on restrictions make it nearly impossible to get an abortion in their particular states are there others that did expand in
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anticipation of what may happen and roping overturn. governor from colorado on fox news sunday a few weeks ago. i really pressed him on just how far their log goes for he could not give me any limitation up to and through the ninth of march pregnancy. there are number of places that will be true across the country but it will be about people choosing to go to those states if that is what they choose. but keep in mind with these trigger laws like on the other direction that say there is no ability to get an abortion or after six weeks, 12, 15, whatever it is for the penalties and those lost nearly everyone i have reviewed the penalties or never for the woman it is always for the doctor of the medical personnel who help or should try to obtain an abortion will obtain an abortion for number of the states have made it clear they do not want the women themselves to be subject to any criminal penalties, martha. martha: one of things you hear is that will fault -- my convertible fallen for women who cannot travel, who cannot get access, who cannot leave their state. what is the remedy for that?
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is there an accurate remedy for that? >> yes, we've heard a number of state step up and say we make sure we provide options so that our state which is very liberal with their policy will be an open door for women who need to travel. you heard governor hogle and new york say we are putting $35 million towards this. 25 million of that is to beef up our clinics, our personnel to make sure they're able to ramp up their ability to see patients print off so interesting and off $10 million of the money new york is going to go to abortion. there is nothing in that conversation about security, provision for crisis pregnancy centers that don't offer abortions but offer other options but private groups are raising money think they are angry about this decision, donate here. we'll make we share this money with women who need to tap into our fund spread number private employers as well. if a growing list for keeping track of their outbox have said we will pay as an employee benefit for people to travel but for example dick's sporting
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goods had will pay up to $4000 per employees to reimburse them for travel expenses if they have to go out of state lot of public and private money stepping up to address that particular question. >> i'm just thinking of something i heard a lot of over the course of this. i don't if there's an answer to it yet, shannon. in regard to mailing prescription across state lines or do we know whether or not there will be restrictions on that? >> some states it got very specific. they've gone that far for the talked about not only the in person fiscal abortions you go under sub medical procedure but also the pharmaceuticals. by demonstrations talked about they want to make sure it can cross state lines. that's going to be the next phase of wading through this as if the different states have done it how that will work across state lines. >> with regards to the other lost out there, same marriage, these are contraception, when to chuckle bit more about this in
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the moment. what it should take when you read the opinion on whether or not overturning those is possible? >> not on the basis of the region sitting in this case. justice laid out was very clear proof that i don't how i could be more clear. we are distinguishing away the issue of same marriage, contraception, other issues of sexuality the court has weighed in on price and nothing in this opinion could be used. now this reasoning for anything but abortion. he said we differentiate as a different kind adjusting role in case he did. involving court potential life. he said none of this reasoning should apply to those now. but skin collateral attempted is justice thomas concurrency said that if true, accurate the majority this. nothing in this opinion goes to those topics. but then he has an added line. is him it comes to issue of substantive due process, other cases like the contraceptive the same marriage cases, we made to re-examine those at the future at some point. if he is saying nothing in this
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case gets us that conversation. martha: more and that's come shannon thank you, joining us this morning majority's now republican senator lindsey graham, member of course of the senate judiciary committee. senator welcome back to fox news sunday. it is good to have you here. >> thanks for having me. >> i want to start with this but this is the language of justice who wrote this opinion he said we therefore hold that the constitution does not confer a right to abortion. roe and casey must be overruled. the authority to regulate abortion must be returned to the people and their elected representatives. that was called by one call this the greatest victory in the history of the conservative movement. certainly something you have worked for, for a very long time senator. rex. >> what it does is take us back to before 1973. before 1973 the law of the land was each state could decide the
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issue of life when a life it begins whether to have an abortion. what the circumstances around having an abortion rate all this the conservative world have agreed to there's nothing in the constitution is nothing in the constitution that creates a right to abortion as a constitutional principle. this was judge made with this has done is taken us back to pre-1973 were each state can decide who their elected officials with life begins and how to treat life. this is a huge victory for the pro-life movement. president trump deserves a lion share of credit here pretty fight like a tiger chip at three constitutional conservative judges on the court pretty stood behind kavanaugh and all of us who have been working for the last 50 years to get this right. to have a constitutional resets. friday was a glorious day. >> i think of you fighting like
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a tiger as you say over brett kavanaugh's nomination process which you thought had gone to i think use the word to discussing places in terms of what happened there. so what is that like for you personally, senator is you look at this? we have a video of you giving that speech pretty sort of grabbed a victory from the jaws of defeat. >> it is satisfying to know that through the constitutional process you can make a difference. when roe came out we do not burn down the capitol as conservative as we did not go to liberal justices home and try to intimidate them. the radical left archons additional anarchist for they are literally trying to change this country from top to bottom for they want to pat in the court they're not like this decision. going to abolish the electoral college to california, york and pick the president in perpetuity. at the end of the day they want to federalize elections, taken away from the states to makeshift ballot harvesting and
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voter ids for these constitutional anarchists, here's my advice to you. quit trying to burn down america and work like we did in the fields for elect people who grew through the ballot box. your next guest, one of your guess is from georgia. i'm dying to see what she will say about how she would handle as governor any effort to regulate abortion in her state. this was a one to the ballot box by conservatives we are not going to let liberals intimidate the rule of law system to taken away from us. martha: it certainly has lit a fire under politicians on capitol hill for their going to use this as an opportunity in the midterms reduce nancy pelosi talk about how she viewed that decision on friday, watch. >> a romans right to choose reproductive freedom is on the ballot in november. we cannot allow them to take charge so that they can institute their goal. which is to criminalize
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reproductive freedom. to criminalize. to criminalize reproductive freedom you've got very tight senate races in arizona, nevada, georgia, et cetera this will be no doubt a powerful light of debate. >> this is a one issue we talk about what we elect senators and house members and members of the statehouses and governors. but is not going to change a 2022 outcome. most americans believe i really do believe most americans are comfortable with elected officials making the decision about life. that every state do it the way they live. with question on the ballot boxes $5 of gas you cannot walk down the street before without being attempts. we have broken borders. this is a big day for the pro-life movement. for all of us i wish were alive to hear and see this but for all of you been working for 50 years to elect members of the house and the senate and a president that would put constitutional
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conservatives on the court your day finally arrived. and to the left the way you do this is to do what we did. you take it to the ballot box. you don't try to destroy america. these constitutional anarchists like aoc have to be dealt with. there will be a backlash against this effort to intimidate our judges. >> i want to return justice thomas' concurrence. shannon just mentioned this is getting a lot of attention terms of whether or not this decision leads to other decisions as well. he said in future cases we should reconsider all of the substantive due process including griswold, lawrence, which are same-sex marriage and contraception decisions but he said we have a duty to correct the error, established in those precedent for that's going to send a chill through it many moderate voter mines across the country senator progress i really respect clarence thompson tried to destroy him, remember
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his confirmation process? they tried to destroy kavanaugh. bush 41 stood by clarence thomas, president trump stood by kavanaugh and here we are today. alito set the right tone but he said nothing and this decision puts those cases at risk. the reason he decided roe v wade was wrongly decided it deals with potential for life. these are the privacy issues like contraception do not deal with the potential for life. he made a distinction between same-sex marriage and contraception which i think will win the day overtime. one thing we are not talking about we would not be here if harry reid had not changed the rules of the senate allowing a simple majority. harry reid believed they were going to have a democratic president's forever. he took the rules of the senate change them in the simple majority rules led to trump getting great three great conservatives on the corporate one thing we are not talking about is justice ginsburg who is a mighty voice sheet shows not
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to retire. it was amazing series of events that allowed us to get here today. at the state level to my friends on the left you are going to have a hell of a fight on your hands at the state level at the ballot box. that is where this should've been all along. >> are going to see a lot of attention paid to state legislature places where people may not of paid attention. your colleagues in the senate, joe manchin is a pro-life catholic is calling for legislation to codify it roe v wade. makowski calls in the same bernie sanders said we got to end the filibuster and codify as a law roe and casey what you say to them? >> i don't think joe manchin is going to turn the senate into the house. he may be disappointed in this decision. if you are pro-life you should embrace this decision and allow states to determine not five unelected judges i don't see susan collins, or mccaskey
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pro-choice change the rules of the senate by the rules of the senate would require 60 votes to enshrine roe v wade. let's you blow up the senate that's not going to happen anytime soon. as conservatives you did 62 votes but here's what you have you have a full assault on the constitution by the left. it would to do away with the electoral college spray they want to expand the number of judges on supreme court to packet. now they are pushing bernie sanders to change the rules of the senate. the senate will hold here. the senate will not change. the 60 vote requirement for legislation will hold. if you left up to bernie sanders and elizabeth warned that blow the senate up to get their way. all of these want and outcome the constitutional provision restricting their ability to win. those be damned you want to change america to get outcomes. conservatives are going to fight were going to uphold the constitution. i don't think joe manchin, sinema or murkowski or collins are going to blow up the senate because there disappointed with this court ruling. i don't believe that i know this
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is something he felt personally passionate about with regard to life you have fought for heartbeat laws and pain lots of the course of your career pretty and spent a lot of time in the senate started now president joe biden. he has evolved dramatically want to think about the things he said on friday about what a somber day friday it was. i want to play for everyone what he said in 2006 about this issue, watch. >> i do not view abortion as a choice and a right i think it is always a tragedy. and i think it should be rare and safe they think we should be focusing on how to limit the number of abortions there ought to be a common ground and consensus ground to do that. >> averted that joe biden go senator asked the guy that ran in the guy we actually is
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president are two different people he ran as a centrist he is in governing the most radical way what happened is a radical leftist taken over the democratic party but he going where they are taking him. what are they want to do in light of this opinion? they went to change the makeup of the court to packet with additional judges so it will become a liberal not conservative right they want to do it comes to elections question what they want to federalize elections or take the final power away from the state, institute ballot harvesting it with voter id by the want to make d.c. in puerto rico as state there anarchists are in charge of the democratic party put i appreciate president biden saying to the left do not use what i worry about is this purchase going on check it judges home is giving a green light there are no rules anymore. if we don't watch it summons going get killed out here and i am urging merrick garland to start putting people in jail who
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show up at the justice is home to try to intimidate them and their family. if we do not reset here pretty soon somebody is going to get killed. do what we did, go to the ballot box try to win elections do not burn down the country backwards attorney general certain has a whole lot on the books to do just that at judges homes and justices homes present are always good to see a thank you very much, senator lindsey graham for joining us today from columbia south carolina. coming up next it will get reaction from democrats stacy abrams running for governor in georgia where the sates soon see major changes in the wake of this ruling from the supreme
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now that the high court has overturned abortion, and begin the process of governing the issue according to their own laws. in the state of georgia in 2019 the legislature passed the georgia life law which puts in place a ban after six weeks or when the heartbeat is detected. but it was held up in court until now. now governor kemp said he believes it will go into effect soon. joining us now, georgia democrats stacy abrams who is running against governor kemp this november. welcome to fox news said it's good happy with this. >> thank you for having me. >> with regard to that law i know you said you were appalled by the outcome of the court's decision. but given the law that was voted in by the legislature in georgia, do you support the fact that they will carry out the will of the people in georgia and put that law at a six week
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ban into effect? >> i do not. i would reject the notion this is the will of the people per this is a political decision made by the narrowest of margins and done to satisfy an even narrower constituency. geordie of georgians rejected the notion of overturning roe v wade. they rejected this bill and this is not the law that will be safest for georgia women. what is more concerning to me though is the notion that our constitutional rights in the bodily autonomy that women for 50 years have come to rely upon will be subject to state-by-state rather than being governed by a federal notion that no matter who you are, no matter where you live we live in the united states and our ability to control our bodies should be sacrosanct regardless of state lines for. >> we are seeing in different states that there will be different limitations based on a when people would be able to get an abortion. do you support any limitation on
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abortion or do you think women should have the right to have an abortion all the way up to nine months? >> i believe in abortion is a medical decision but i believe that should be a choice made between a doctor and a woman and in consultation with her family. i think the challenge we have is we keep putting this in a political space. this is a medical decision. the medical choices that should be made should be governed by what is best for that women in what is best as a suggestion of an advice of their doctor. chris yu used to be pro-lifer you say then converted to being pro-choice. you say it is a medical decision a lot of people disagree with that they take the decision about life and respecting life. i want to play this soundbite for you from another woman and leadership this is virginia lieutenant governor and she is talking in this soundbite about the situation in virginia. i want to get your thoughts on
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it, on the other side. >> 2019, 15000 plus abortions were done. 46% of them were done by black women. now, if the kkk has said we will pay for every black woman to have an abortion that wants one, we would say to ourselves wait a minute something is up why don't they want us to have our babies? we don't understand what is going on. so we are losing so many black lives that matter. >> you think she has a point in terms of losing so many black lives that matter? i've heard that sentiment from other people as well. >> that's an argument that is used to cloak what is i think a deeply disturbing approach to this conversation. affecting my tenure in the legislature i beat back a bill that was designed to deny access to the medical decision using arrays as a divisive tactic.
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i reject that. black women in georgia face the highest mortality rate. there are three times more likely to die. we note black women are the most likely underserved by their medical care. and we know that sometimes the choice they need to make it medically, economically, and personally is to have an abortion. if lieutenant governor or others want to address the racial dimensions we have to address all the racial dimensions. that likely of being underpaid the likely of living in broken public health infrastructures for the likely of not having access to medicaid and not having access to insurance which tends to lead to worse in pregnancies a worse outcomes we cannot cherry pick when we pay attention to the lives and safety of women per desert deepest challenge we face here in georgia. >> what about the lives and safety of the child? >> brian kemp has refused to
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expand medicaid and the state of georgia parties refused to support women at every stage of their lives when they are trying to make the best choices for themselves and their families. the reality is, if we care about the medical needs of women especially black women that we have to care the entire time for. >> i understand i'm asking you about when you see i asked you if you believe it all dipped in nine months i'm just asking you are talking about caring about the lives of women i am asking at what point do start to care about the life of that baby, that baby girl in some cases? >> what i would say it is a medical decision i do not know of a single woman who reaches the stage where this decision is easy. that is not the case. this is a medical conversation. while we are absolutely compelled to have these difficult conversations they should not be political ones. i should not be making decisions
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without having true understanding of the fact or should any other political leader. this is not a political issue. martha: i'm going to take this up to nine months in some cases depending upon the woman is that correct question at. >> that's not what i said i said this is a medical decision. and the medical decisions that have to be made have to be made in context. this is a specious approach to try to denude the entire argument the reality is abortion and reproductive care is personal and it is singular and should be made between a woman and her doctor but i do not have either the experience or the capacity to know what is happening with others. martha: i can move on to get talk about this a lot longer i'm sure they want to ask about this recent headline in interview you did with ask io is stacy abrams wants to defund the police. so what would you say to those who look at that headline and hear you calling for an increase for pay to certain law enforcement this is selection
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politics and that this is a change of tune given this soundbite from an interview you did with cnn which is now part of and adds your opponent has put out there should point out, let's watch for. >> listen to stacy abrams on defending the police for. >> yes defund them. we have to reallocate resources so yes. >> what is your reaction to that? and do you believe you have changed your tune on defending the police? >> you know because if you listen to the whole clip which brian kemp conveniently leaves that i said at the choice is between the murder of black people and is serving a black people than certainly brag don't think that it's what regard i don't think that is where we have to be. my intent is to balance public safety and justice. because doing otherwise has never worked. we cannot punish our way into public safety. we also have to recognize their deep challenges and how law enforcement engages our
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community that is when pushing both for public safety measures, accountability measures and criminal justice reform measures. what i believe most fundamentally this is true if you look at my entire record is that living wages have to be paid. especially to our public workers free to pet especially to law enforcement for the state of georgia if you are a correctional officer e makes 30,000 dollars in your committee supervisor that is someone who deals with probation and parole georgia has highest rate in the nation you make $39000 but if you are a trooper cadet you make a little over 40000 we need to pay a living wage in georgia that is what my proposal says. a living wage our public safety workers just as i want to pay it to her teachers. $50000 that is the right thing to do. martha: your opponent has also called and implemented pay raises for members of law enforcement. but that aside in terms of defend the police movement, would you say it looking back at it, that it caused damage? what we saw was a mass leaving
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of office of police officers across the country for a sudden increase in homicide rates. 19% in atlanta, 55% last year. do you think it was a mistake to defend the police? to have this movement across the country? >> the intention that we had in 2020 was to call attention to the harm that was being done to black people by the police. we had a litany of the murders that shock the conscience of every american. must be clear in the state of georgia violent crime went 65% in 2019 -- 2020 under brian kemp. has nothing to do with the reaction to george floyd's murder, to brooks murder, to breonna at taylor's murder it happened under brian kemp's leadership it happened under a president and a governor who believe that punishment rather than a balanced approach was the answer. we know that has never worked but we have to have the public
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safety and justice. that is simply the intention that i have. let us invest in a public safety workers but let us invest in making certain our communities are served that we center the well-being of our communities but we think about their health care. think about their safety and we think about those who are providing that safety. i want us to have the best law enforcement possible to protect our communities. but they also had to be held accountable. we can do both and is a false choice to say we have to do one or the other. martha: many look at that move in and say it backfired. it led to an exodus of police as i mentioned. you have seen an increase in homicide specifically and many cities across the country that a lot of people get arrested are back out on the street the next day. this is a dangerous movement that has led to a lot of violence and unrest in cities across the country. do you disagree? >> i am pointing to the data that is in georgia. we saw the largest increase in violent crime preceding that
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conversation that happened after george floyd was murdered after our brief was vertebrate let's fit their george was facing riots and violence prints were going to face a rise in gun violence because of a governor who is weakening gun laws and allow dangerous people to carry weapons without a permit without a background check. and so i think it is very convenient to try to attach this to one moment that is insufficient in terms of state and terms of the outcome. we know and george the number people leaving law enforcement often fight pay. they fight pay, they fight morale per that is because they are not completely supported by our government by our leadership. they need the ability to take care of themselves and their families. we have law enforcement officer special the local level who are on food stamps because we are not doing our job to provide a living wage for those be asked to do difficult job. martha: we certainly seem to come morale across the country and police were think a lot of them but attributed to movements
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to try to diminish the job and tried to put in a light many of them thought they did not not deserve before you go i want to ask my question. it is about president biden. his approval numbers are 39%. obvious that we have soaring inflation proof that gas prices putting a room debts and peoples while across the country. will you be asked in the present to campaign with you in georgia and the governor's race against governor kemp? >> i welcome anyone who wants to come to georgia to help improve the lives of georgians and that includes a president of the united states but more importantly invite people to go to my website stacy to learn about my plans for georgia parenthesis a state races the race about the future of georgia, georgia will retreat our public workers, public safety workers, teachers, anyone who should be doing the best for our communities deserve the best from our government police on my website stacy to learn more about my plan for georgia. >> look forward to the conversation we appreciate you
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being here today. stacy abrams we hope i've a chance to talk to the future more about this important race for the governor's office in georgia were thank you very much. >> thanks for having me. >> up next to bring or send a group and get a look at what the real impact is likely to be on the upcoming races as the democrats push to end the filibuster and reaction to what happened at the supreme court. we will be right
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>> you think the supreme court is broken in your opinion? xo think the supreme court is made some terrible decisions by cortez president biden expressing his disappointment of the courts recent decisions time out for sunday fox news congressional correspondent fox news political analyst one one's former rnc communication director xds national political reporter jonathan swann paid welcome to all of you. it's great to be with you in washington. no action want to take a look at
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another soundbite could be went out and asked people on the street with their reaction is because ultimately it's going to be how voters feel about this as we head into the midterms that will matter, watch this. >> we really need all kinds of state legislatures and courts to act rationally and judge fairly progressive think that countries are deeply polarized on this issue think people pro-lifer who work quote or arty democrats are lot of other issues in platelike inflation rate think it certainly an issue people are concerned about in gas prices we may have an impact. martha: jonathan star thiel star with present bright in his response i played a soundbite a moment ago he said back in 2006 that any abortion was a tragedy. he has definitely changed his tune on that. how does this play for the president going forward? >> inside the white house they have been preparing for this
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since it came out in the start of may with the decision for they immediately saw the entrance of the political this solace is the best opportunity to energize democratic voters this year. the gun as she was another that has been neutralized a little but because the bipartisan deal on the helper to the extent they have an issue that can rev up their baster base has been very depressed. they've got probably the most horrible a political for democrats in a decade. this issue has been to some extent a life raft for them but they're going to be a full court press on this for the vice president has a really prominent role in this. meeting with pro-choice groups almost every week since atlee cap and. there going to immobilize their political and outside infrastructure to get as much political bang for their buck does they can out of this decision. martha: i just spoke with they see abrams we look at the kemp/abrams race with the impact
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of decision like this in a place like georgia? >> not race as a pencil vignette governor and senate race we don't know yet. we don't know if jonathan mentioned how much is going to motivate democrats versus all of the other things everyday americans are dealing with every day, inflation be the most prominent example. and one thing republicans seem to be concerned about looking back at 2012, 14 and senate races what rhetoric are we going to hear from this? mary miller last night in illinois talked about white life whatever that means. at the shade of todd akin, murdock, four senate races we left on the table. it's one reason in missouri the republicans are so concerned about eric's potential to be as opposed the other candidates who do not have the controversial rhetoric and private life that he has had. martha: evans great point how do republicansbl sicorans sort of s discussion and how they talk about it given the fact that while there's going to be a lot
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erate voters in places like pennsylvania or michigan who may be swayed by this issue. it's difficult to tell how much though give the things a dozen point and given inflation giving gas prices how much is it going to matter? >> it is going to matter. if you look back at exactly the segment of the electric that decided some past elections. the point directly at suburban white women you'd say are they motivated to turn out, to vote is this a big issue for them? what we know historically is abortion has really been a trigger for people who are opposed to abortion rights for they made their number one issue. their test that takes into the pulse issue they vote on. this now shifts the dynamic. the dynamic now becomes people who say hey i didn't think my abortion rights were going to go away. they've been for 50 years, my mom, my grandma had abortion rights. and now that has been erased and
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i am outraged. i am now incentivized to go and vote. i think for democrats there's a big hope there. i think you are looking just picky about what doug is talking about your look at not only those states you are looking arizona with the market kelly race. you are looking pennsylvania in a big way in terms of the governor's race and the senate race were all the sudden outside of pittsburgh outside of philadelphia. >> i think it's an open question when you look at this issue. it has been a very long time this has been in place a lot of change in the world since then pray look at these young women pro-life groups who are outside the capitol they have grown in size look at the hispanic vote which is now becoming more conservative, slowly over time but what about the political impact of this? democrats are going to try to capitalize on this as much as i can. i think i'll try to bottle is in motion a piercing out in the
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streets would call for protests. or that into the midterms that could work for they could see some ads out there playing on that unknown fear of something like if you they sought with each of the wafer with reproductive rights think what else they could take away. play up the unknown fear. think that will absolutely try that nancy pelosi talks about what the plan is going to be from the midterms. i don't know if it works. four months is a very long time ahead of november special at washington anything could happen but think about what happened last year in august we are approaching the one-year anniversary. something like that were to happen again things could definitely go a different direction. i don't know helps democrats the way they hope it's helping. that is a people are talking about mostly. especially independence in states like nevada that i just went too. but with independent people who used to be democrats but people
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who use republicans are not unaffiliated voters. that is not the majority in that state they are mostly worried about gas prices, inflation, not as much about social issues. >> those states who just visited i think about the latino population, martha mentioned earlier. we see some inclination out more towards voting for republicans. but this decision really is a tremendous burden on working-class and middle-class women and specifically those who are latina, black, women who may have a child but most people who have abortions have a child. half of them are in poverty. someone who is trying to get their nursing certificate suddenly an unintended pregnancy. suddenly their life choices are limited because the rights have been taken away by the court talks about individual rights and individual liberties were they taken away individual liberties from these people. >> the line the states and people vote for the
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representatives in the state to govern estimate the people desire. [inaudible] >> just this very week he said the states cannot decide with regard to guns and what regulation of guns in the state. they said we are going to decide about abortion from going to take away abortion per. >> the second amendment is no lesser rate than others but very specific right. their argument is abortion is not dismissed as a fight right. >> on it sent women to show they can send doctors to jail but they cannot say anything about who gets to walk out the gun? martha: would back with more conversation with our panel. take a quick break cap next president biden has a european with leaders but are going to discuss their new plan and up the pressure on russia.
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martha: her back of the panel. today prison by begetting talks with the g7. jonathan them started they were on time. discussion about banning russian gold imports. the tapping never to the knights it's in the uk. what is your take on how seriously this cracked out our rushers actually have an impact given horsing on the ground there? lexi russian economies proven to be quite resilient. actually despite all of the heady optimism, they are digging in and making slow gains for this is looking like it is developing into a war of attrition. the big challenge for biden right now is keeping unity in the west. that is easier said than done pretty or arty seeing here in america how strong the argument is, particularly on the right and the base on the right about
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not sending any more money to ukraine. got all these problems are domestically paid why are we sitting $40 billion ukraine? the going have a lot more trouble in the conduct of the hill again to get something else for ukraine for this is becoming more and more difficult issue. they are trying to hold it together. it's really fragile it's really fragile this coalition that got together. >> you have been in the region. we are seeing a situation you got a blockade of great exports out of ukraine right now. and a question about whether or not the united states should be doing more to block break up the blockade and get the shipments through brick works and only that but think about the g7, the nato alliance is incredibly influential. then you got the rest of the world you got countries like india that are now importing detente of russian oil. so you have to think about why we are not hearing more of that from congressional leaders? why were not talk about secondary sanctions with other countries around the world are seemingly looking the other way and not siding with us on this.
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i do wonder why they are not questioning more about that. when the front door is closed in the back door is open doesn't really matter? are we gaining any significance out of this question. >> 15 seconds each quick thought of that dog cuts her. >> letter putin's best asset is time parties depending on that is what jonathan was referencing because it's great benefit in real concern here in the west. >> think the russian combat capabilities in the morning papers it was reported the u.s. intelligence thanks they are limited. if the united states and keep the alleys together, time may actually reverse and we may see more power with ukraine incapacitating supplemented by the allies. physics think of all big week ahead great happy with us this morning thanks panel will see you next sunday. up next to a a final word on the week ahead.
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liberty and levin". steve: breaking tonight president biden joined other world leaders on the first day of the g7 summit in germany where they committed to ban imports and russian gold and green infrastructure thing but nothing to help you with soaring inflation and gas prices today. on the plus side, so far biden has it fallen off the bike, he hasn't fallen up any stairs, he hasn't even fallen asleep.


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