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rachel: go. ♪ ♪ [laughter] [inaudible conversations] ♪ maria: good sunday morning, everyone. welcome to "sunday morning futures." i'm maria bartiromo. today, the fbi under fire and questioned over its motives as the director of national intelligence gets set to brief lawmakers on why the fbi raided the home of former president donald trump. coming up, house intelligence committee ranking member and ohio congressman mike turner on what to expect as we analyze the heavily-redacted affidavit behind that raid. then, fbi works overtime to
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elect joe biden right before the 2020 election. >> the fbi basically came to us, some focus on our team, and was like, hey, just so you know, like, you should be on high alert. there's -- we thought there was a lot of russian propaganda in the 2016 election, we have been on notice that, basically, there's about to be some kind of dump of similar to that, so just be vigilant. and it turned out after the fact when the fact checkers looked into it, no one was able to say it was palls. maria: facebook founder marker berg admitting the censorship directive came from the fbi as whistleblowers tell senator ron johnson a similar story about the directive on hunter biden's laptop. coming up, senator ron johnson is here on what the whistleblowers told him and what he's doing about it. then, president biden claims it's fair for all taxpayers to be on the hook for other people's college debt.
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>> i believe my plan is responsible and fair. it focuses the benefit on middle class and working families. it helps both current and pooch borrowers -- future borrowers. maria: coming up, phenomenal congressman bye ondonalds -- byron donalds on the policies that got us here and joe biden's efforts to keep stoking prices higher for everything, now including college. plus, 71 days til the midterm elections, and many senate races are sill a toss-up. ohio senate candidate j.d. vance on why he's leading in the polls in ohio. it's all right here, right now on "sunday morning futures." ♪ ♪ maria: and paris this morning, we begin this sunday morning with the very latest on the fbi's heavily redacted affidavit being unsealed on friday over the bureau's unprecedented raid on president trump's mar-a-lago
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home. the affidavit states the trump team turned over nearly 200 documents with classifications markings on it to the national archives and record administration. earlier this year the fbi claimed it had probable cause to believe additional classified documents were at trump's home and that the bureau's search will likely find evidence of obstruction. all this despite president trump saying that he declassified all of the documents found in mar-a-lago. approximately 20 of the 38 pages in the affidavit were either significantly or pulley redacted, leaving -- fully redacted leaving more questions than answers regarding the justification for this raid. last week on this program senator marsha blackburn spoke about the impact raid has had on america. >> we have seen the fbi become politicized, a certain group, a certain cabal in the fbi. people really fear this having
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two tiers of justice, two who separate systems, rules for thee but not for me. that approach. and it is unnerving to tennesseans, and we hear about this every single day and how people want justice to be blind, to be equal, to be fair. and they're frustrated with what they see happening from the doj and the fbi. maria: joining me now exclusively this morning with his first public reaction since the affidavit was unsealed is the ranking member of the house intelligence committee, congressman mike turner. congressman, thanks very much for joining us this morning. >> thank you for having me. maria: i want to ask you about the affidavit we just showed all of the redactments on that document. what do you react, how do you react to that, and do we know what these classified documents are in relationship? >> well, maria, i think this is what's interesting about the
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affidavit, even absent the redactions, what's missing are some imminent national security threat that would justify raiding the president's home. the former president president trump's home was raided which is the most invasive manner in which the fbi could have gone about this. department of justice could have gone to court and trieded to have the subpoena that they had enforced by the court. instead, they chose to raid mar-a-lago. in the affidavit itself, they cite the archivists, not the intelligence community, direct or of cia, department of defense as to opining that these documents or this situation is a national security threat. they cite the archivist. this is more like a bookkeeping issue than a national security threat which means it doesn't rise to the level of justifying raiding the former president's home. maria: so in other words, the fbi did not ask the intelligence community for any assessment.
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i know that you notified avril haines, and you did get a note back from avril haines, the director of national intelligence. we have that letter here. and what this says is that they were unacquire of it before -- unaware of it before this, and the director of martial intelligence not aware -- national intelligence not aware before pulling off this raid. >> maria, it certainly appears that way. when you look at director haines' letter, she says we'll begin the process, we'll begin to to look at these records, and she cites both the records that had been surrendered volpeen tearily and those that were -- voluntarily, and those that were taken in the raid itself. we'll look at them, we'll do an assessment. well, that means that the fbi is flying alone here. supposedly, they're looking for classified documents, with but they're not talking to the anybody who deals with classified information, and that would seem to indicate this is very, very suspect as to why it would rise to the level of needing to raid. they had other options, they
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should have taken them. maria: i mean, look, we go back and look at the russia collusion lie that the fbi knew that the dossier was pick and yet they still pushed -- was fake and yet they still pushed forward trying to get fisa warrants to spy on the trump campaign, and that's exactly what they did. they spieded on carter page for a year and no charges were ever brought. what do you make of what the director of national intelligence may say in this briefing? first, tell us the timing. when do you expect a briefing from the dni? when do you expect an assessment of all of this? >> they'll have to review the documents first before they come to congress to brief us which is the mistily part of this -- mystery part of this, why haven't they been involved previously? former president trump won in federal court, at least the court saying they have an initial intent to award a special master authority to go over these documents and return to former president trump those
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itemses that should not have been taken from his home. and also demanding that there be a more inclusive accounting of what was taken. as you know, when they released supposedly their inventory, for example, his passports weren't there. there's a number of items that we don't even know they've taken. saying their preliminary intent is to grant the special master, it really does show once again a court being very skeptical of what the fbi and department of justice is doing. maria: wow. but how aggressive. they also raided the home of the head of project veritas because project veritas had their hands on the diary of joe biden's daughter? i mean, what is going on at the fbi? >> you know, that certainly is another curious one, because that certainly doesn't rise to the level of any national security threat. this is, you know, a diary which, of course, certainly would be embarrassing to president biden, embarrassing to his daughter. certainly, now we're learning hat allegations that the diary itself had been stolen, but to
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go all the way to the level of not just subpoenaing the documents, but to raid a media outlet over this, again, it ises very, you know, unprecedented, and it's a line that we've just not seen crossed before. maria: meanwhile, when you take a look at what the fbi said about the capture of zawahiri, let's talk about that nor a moment because we -- for a moment because we saw that they went out on tv and said that they were tracking the family. they declassified those documents. how does that jive with this situation? >> you know, that's really interesting, maria, because if you look at what director haines has said, the director of dni, that she's going to review these documents and el the us what the risk would be if these documents were released, you can certainly e identify my threat to national security with any information that's released. with zawahiri, president biden's administration released information about how he was found, how he was tracked and how he was killed, all of which
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makes it more difficult for us to do those things in the future. and the payoff was really just brag as they were claiming credit for what had occurred. that certainly diminishes overall national security. so in all, we're going to be the very -- you know, as we look at these statements that we're going to get from the director, as we look at these document, i've called for all the documents to be bitch to the intelligence committee, we have to be very cautious. there's a lot more to learn are. i certainly think the court's order to initially indicate that they have the inclination to issue a special master for the president so president trump's documents would go to the special master for review and for disposition, i think that certainly helps the former president. maria: well, i mean, were these documents declassified? >> well, president trump says they are, kash patel has said they are, and this is going to be a fact-based issue. there's going to have to be some
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substantiation of this, but along the way it's not -- no one is questioning that president trump had full authority to do that as president. question's going to be how can they document that it occurred. maria: so who directed the fbi then? i mean, who is in charge here in is this the same group that oversaw crossfire hurricane and the efforts to ache the trump down during the -- take trump down during the campaign? do we know who directed the fbi to do this raid? >> you know, march maria, that's what's so important about this upcoming election in november. president republicans win the house, that's going to include the investigatory powers we're going to need to get to the bottom of this. we need to know who's directing the fbi, who decided not to use other options than to raid former president trump's to home, who decided to go to the media and say there's disinformation from russia coming out in the election, stop reporting on these issues that might be damaging to then-candidate biden. all of these things that we're
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seeing, they're coming if from somewhere, and we need to get to the bottom of who is this and how do we root this out of the fbi so that we can get back to an organization, an constitution that we trust. maria: and we're going to talk with senator ron johnson about that as well because he's had conversations with whistleblowers. congressman, i've got to get your take on china because now we've got news in the weekend that the u.s. coast guard was denied entry into the solomon islands' port, sparking concerns china is running the region over there. it's in charge saying that they own the south china sea. what's your take on the threat of china? >> this is very concerning because, maria, you know, this is a very provocative act. this is not just having an alliance with china, this is actually trying to impact us. we were coming back, according to reports, from an exercise that even included participation of the solomon islands themselves. so this provocative act certainly raises the bar. we've not seen this before within the area, and this is very concerning. maria: okay. final question here on the trump
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situation, do you think trump is going to get indicted? are hay going to go that far to stop him from run anything 2024? >> you know, one of the things that i think is very concerning to everybody besides just questions about the fbi's actions and the department of justice overreach is this issue of unequal application of the law. it would be incredibly unusual for the department of justice to decide when they didn't pursue former fbi correcter comey -- director comey, when they didn't pursue hillary clinton who had classified documents in her home with bill clinton, former president, to pursue president trump over an issue with the archivist. so i think that's what's going to be very important about the special master being appointed. i thinkst a big win for former president trump if this court follows through, because this'll give him an opportunity for the court -- not just the department of justice -- to take control of these documents and their final disposition. maria: congressman, we so appreciate your time and leadership on all of the above. thank you, sir.
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house intel committee ranking member, mike turner. quick break and then president biden's student loan plan and the impact it will have on an already red hot inflation story. we examine if it's pair for all taxpayers to be on the hook even if they paid off their loan or never took out a loan. that's next as we look ahead on "sunday morning futures." stay with us. ...the tower cam for a - hey! folks, we seem to have a visitor. it looks like - looks like you paid too much for your glasses. ...who? anyone who isn't shopping at america's best - where two pairs and a free exam start at just $79.95. book an exam today. (energetically) you guys are crushing it! see how the 8 grams of healthy protein in land o' frost premium meat gives you energy and keeps you full? let's get those buns toastin' bread.
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♪ ♪ >> mr. president, is is this unfair to people who paid their student loans or chose not to take out loans? >> is it fair for people who, in fact, do not own multimillion dollar businesses -- [inaudible] is that fair? what do you think? maria: well, that was president biden responding to millions of americans who either do not have a student loan or have already paid off their student loan even though inflation is hovering at
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a 40-year high. the white house claims that the student loan bailout will only cost $240 billion over 10 years. according to one estimate from the penn if or wharton unit -- penn wharton unit, taxpayers will be on the hook for over $1 trillion. another estimate from the can committee for a responsible budget has the price tag coming in between $440-600 billion. more spending, which has already stoked 40-year high inflation. joining me right now is congressman byron donalds of florida who sits on the house budget committee as well as the house oversight and reform committee. congressman, thanks so much for being here. >> it's good to be back with you, maria with. maria: so why is the president forgiving all of this debt and, obviously, going to raise taxes on rest of us to pay for this loan bailout? more spending after we've seen all of the spending in the last year and a half send inflation to to 40-year highs?
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>> the president's making this move because his approval numbers are in the to toilet. he's trying to get his base out to vote, so he's buying votes from people across the country. it is reckless, it's immoral. frankly, illegal, because the law that he is using is manager for national emergencies. well, guess what, america? the national emergency that was covid-19 is over. it does not exist. the president does not have the legal authority to do what he is doing. this is the complete wrong move, and it's going to make our inflation issues, which were caused by joe biden and the democrats, it's going to make them significantly worse. maria: well, that's a good point that you make, that he doesn't have the legal authority. how is it possible that he could go around congress with more spendingsome you saw the estimates, some expecting this to cost a trillion dollars. somebody's got to pay for that. who's paying for it? >> unfortunately, it's going to fall on the back of every
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taxpayer tax pay -- taxpayer in the united states and their children. in order obey for this, you have to borrow the money, and we all know that we're just borrowing it and future generations are going to have to pay this off. this is also a gross violation of separation of powers. when you talk about a price tag of easily half a trillion dollars, some estimates up to a trillion dollars, that is a congressional issue because you either have to borrow those funds, or you have to appropriate those funds. congress has not discussed this proposal, congress has not voted on proposal. the president is using a statute that does not apply under this condition. that is why it's illegal. congress should actually be going to court on this, because it is a violation of separation of powers. not to to mention the different companies where this is their livelihood actually getting these payments remade so that the debt can be paid down. they are people, i believe, have standing on this issue as well.
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more well, i mean, the president hasp done this before, he goes around congress, he blows off rulings from court orders about are remain in mexico at the border. a number of times we've seen this. so in other words, he went around congress again for this. will you be able to stop it? >> i think that when we take back the house this fall, we cae measures that we can use. and this is why for people listening across the country, the senate elections in arizona, in nevada, in pennsylvania, in ohio, in new hampshire, they really matter. georgia as well. because you need a senate and a house that's going to hold this white house accountable. look at what's happening on our border. i know it's not our topic, but the president of the united states is completely ignoring federal law when it comes to immigration. we have fentanyl in our streets, we have 6 million people who have come across our borders in the last 20 months alone. it is outrageous. it must stop. maria: by the way, we're going to get back to the border. i want to take a short break,
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but real quick before that, is the fbi the overseer of these elections that you say are so important? is the fbi in charge of insuring that these elections are free and fair? >> well, i think that's really the responsibility of each one of these states. states have a responsibility to govern their elections as outlined by the constitution. the fbi should only be involved if there are accusations of criminality that need to be investigated. maria: all right. we're going to take a short break. when we come back, i've got to get your take on crime spiking across the country as wellful we're talking with byron% on donalds, and we'll be right back. op me? uh-oh... i'm almost there... too late! boom! earn big time with chase freedom unlimited with no annual fee. how do you cashback? chase. make more of what's yours.
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>> i respect conservative republicans. i don't respect these maga republicans. we're at a serious moment in our nation's history. the maga republicans don't just
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threaten our personal rights and economic security, they're a threat to our very democracy. they refuse to accept the will of the people. maria: wow. that was president biden week once begun attacking voters who -- again attacking voters who support president trump and the america first approach. the president has been trying to make the words make america great again a dirty word now for a year behalf. we are back with florida congressman byron donalds. what do you make of this, the fact that the president is constantly attacking maga? he's trying to make maga appear extreme, and he keeps doing it. how is the support in the black community, for example, for maga and conservative voters? >> i think what you're seeing across the country is you're seeing a lot of voters, black men, voters of latin descent, hispanic voters, they're starting to go down the america first line, the maga line, because what they want is an america that just works. they want an america where the
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political foolishness in washington, d.c. is at an end. joe biden is the embodiment of political foolishness. he's been that way for 50 years. he cannot talk about his agenda, because his agenda has been a failure. this is why he talks about maag baa as if somehow that's going to square people -- scare people away. you're truly concerned about the future of our country, if you're truly concerned about saving our democracy, you have to take it away from the democrat party because this is the party that basically did this student loan bailout with no votes, no discussion, billions and billions of dollars. this is the party that's left of the border wide open, .nal in our streets. -- fentanyl in our streets. this is the party that passed the inflation reduction act, and they lied about the name. it's really a climate bill, and no member of congress even had a chance to debate the measure. if you truly believe in democracy, shouldn't the members of congress actually debate this stuff? they don't want to do that. they either want to rub to the
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courts, do it -- run to the courts, do it with a quick vote, or they want the prime minister of the united states to issue an illegal order -- president of the united states. i say the threat to democracy is joe biden. maria: well, that's pretty extraordinary. and all the while there is this massive dereliction of duty, a wide open border, inflation at 40-year highs, crime spiking across the country, and yet merrick garland is sending fbi agents to people's homes. not just president trump, also project veritas and a number of other people associated with trump as well who we don't talk about. but let's take one issue, and that is crime spiking across the country. up 37% in chicago, 36% in new york city, 11% in los angeles, seattle, 14%. san francisco up 8%. why so much crime spiking across the country? >> crime is spiking because the democrats in these cities do cannot hold people accountable. it's that simple. look, you have these district attorneys who will not prosecute.
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last time i checked the district attorneys this many these citien some of these states, they're not supporting donald trump or ron desantis. they support joe biden. hay support nancy pelosi. they don't want cities safe. they have demonized police all across the country. law enforcement officers who do their job with honor and with grace and with decency. and what the democrats have tried to do to the american people is gaslight them with the images of an officer that does something wrong, another officer that might do something heinous and try to paint all of law enforcement that way. that is why crime is up in our cities. we have to get back to law and order. you do not do that with liberal democrat policy. you do that with conservative, america first policy. maria: meanwhile, you've got more than 2 million people having been apprehended at the border, another million gotaways in the country. what's the point of having this wide open border? and let me just point out this
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gallup poll that finds a record number of americans right now consider themselves suffering under joe biden as he allows all of these illegal migrants into the country. what's end game here? >> the end game is to turn hem into u.s. citizens at some point with another one of these illegal day -- daca measures that barack obama kid when he was -- did when he was in office. in new york and california they tried to pass measures where noncitizens can vote. why would you do that except you're trying to change the electorate and change the nature of the electorate so you can keep power? if federal immigration law is to protect is citizenry not just from threats, with but also to maintain the cohesion of america. when you have a president who flagrantly violates the law on purpose, not only is it unconstitutional, it's destructive of all of our cities whether you live in a blue city or a red city, a blue state or a red state.
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don't believe me, go ask eric adams who now wants federal support. what he should be asking for is for joe biden to reverse course on his reckless border policy. maria: well, for a long time they've been talking about them being a sanctuary city, so what's the problem, eric adams? i thought this was a sanctuary city. congressman, it's all very disturbing, and we are watching it, keeping a spotlight on it. we so appreciate your time this morning. >> thank you. more byron donalds -- bye ron donalds joining us. quick break, and senator ron johnson is here with breaking news on what an fbi whistleblower told him was the directive inside the fbi on hunter biden's laptop. plus, reaction to media and big tech censorship. it's all right here and next. stay with us. ♪
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♪ >> the fbi basically came to us, some folks on our team, and was like, hey, just so you know, like, you should be on high alert. there was -- we thought there was a lot of russian propaganda in the 016 election -- 2016 election, we have it on notice that basically there's about to be some kind of dump of, similar to that, so just be vigilant. it turned out after the fact when the fact checkers looked into it, no one was able to say it was false. maria: that was facebook founder mark zuckerberg admitting on the
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joe rogan podcast that it was the fbi who called facebook and likely twitter and directed them to to censor the exclusive story of hunter biden's influence peddling from the new york post on hunter biden's laptop. this all happened just days before the 2020 presidential election. both facebook and witter clamped down on the explosive -- twitter clamped down on the expose with facebook limiting the sharing of the story and twitter us pending account of the new york post altogether. meanwhile, the 51 former intelligence officials who signed a letter that a claimed the laptop was russian disinformation five days after the post broke the story have yet to apologize or retract their statement. i had on this program john ratcliffe, the then-sitting director of national intelligence, who told us that is a lie and that the 51 who signed their names to this were wrong and that, in fact, it was not russian disinformation. he told us that on this program and on fox business, "mornings with maria." senator ron johnson has been
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investigating the business dealings of the biden family from day one, and he joins me right now. good morning, senator. a thanks very much for being here morning. >> good morning, maria. maria: your with reaction to what we heard from mark zuckerberg first. >> well, it's another piece of the puzzle of the politicization of these principal agencies. you know, the weaponization of federal a agencies began under the obama administration with lois lerner weaponizing the irs against obama's political opponents, and the partisanship, the politicization just continued. let's say the exoneration of hillary clinton, the editing of james comey's exoneration e-mail. by the way, that was the same cast of characters inside the fbi that immediately went into crossfire hurricane. we now know that as early as october 2016, certainly january of 2017 the fbi knew full well the steele dossier was tainted with russian disinformation. how do we know that?
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because my staff uncovered the classified footnotes to the fisa report or that completely con that that districted the fisa report -- contradicted the fisa report that the fbi had no knowledge of russian disinformation. look at the peter strzok/lisa page texts from 2016, 2017. the mueller probe never should have happened. in march 2018 the fbi, knowing full well that the dossier was taintedded, briefed senate intel and said the steele dossier had integrity. so time and time again we see the partisanship, partisan actions, political actions being undertaken by the fbi. now because we have whistleblowers coming forward, and i encourage to come forward, one to -- a number to senator chuck grassley said there was a scheme in august of 200 to downplay the derogatory information around hunter biden
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to basically squash that information -- 2020. that same month, august 6th, both senator grassley and i in our investigation received an unsolicited briefing by the fbi basically saying we are targeting disinformation. all of our investigation was based on u.s. persons and u.s. documents. now, the briefing was completely unnecessary. i knew it was a setup. so this day we do not know, even though we've asked are repeatedly who directed that briefing, the fbi, merrick garland's not come clean on that. and here's the point: eight months later, nine months later they leaked that briefing to smear me to the washington post. so the most recent whistleblower to my committee has come, the whistleblowers have come forward and said once they have that laptop -- and, again, it was offered to them in the summer of 2019 -- they finally subpoenaed and took possession in december of 2019, but fbi leadership said, quote, you will not look
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at that a hunter biden laptop -- maria: yeah. >> and also fbi is not going to change the outcome of the election again, and then they proceeded to do so by suppressing that information, talking to people like facebook and mark zuckerberg, possibly twitter, certainly senator grassley and i. that was certainly an effort to to suede us from continuing to do -- dissuade us from continuing to do our investigation. maria: yeah. there's a lot here. on the hand, you say they briefed you unsolicited, saying you are a target of russia so that they can leak that, well, we briefed senator johnson and told him he was a target. that's one thing you just said. and the other thing was about that whistleblower complaint. we have the letter that you sent to inspector general michael horowitz, and you sent him a letter saying whistleblowers have contacted my office to share serious concerns about the federal bureau of investigation. we pull out one quote here in this letter which is the quote
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that you just mentioned, and that is that the whistleblower told you there was a directive within the fbi. fbi leadership told employees you will not look at that hunter biden laptop because we will not affect an election. the fbi is not going to change the outcome of the election again. while telling the fbi not to look at the hunter biden laptop, they are, in fact, efforting to change the election. >> with well, absolutely. the fact that the hunter biden laptop was censored by twitter, facebook, we've seen polls that show that had the american public known the corruption of the biden family and hunter biden, joe biden would not be president, we wouldn't have open borders, we wouldn't have 40-year-high inflation, record gas prices, rising crime, all these disastrous results of the biden administration, democrat governance. it wouldn't have happened but for the fbi's politicization,
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their partisanship and suppression of the hunter biden laptop. again, they had it in december of 2019 and did nothing with it. maria: well, and let's point out that at that time president trump was being impeached for a phone call that he had with the head of ukraine. and here we have all of that information on the laptop that the fbi has about the million dollars that hunter biden was collecting from ukraine and burisma, from being on hair board. >> you know, maria, after senator brassily and i issued our report, the next day mr. mcisaac, the computer repair shop owner, offered us that laptop. we'd already been falsely accused, so we did our due diligence, we contacted the fbi. they didn't tell us anything. we repeatedly talked to them, what do you know about this. they would never admit that they had it. now we know they had it, sat on it. mr. mcisaac got impatient, turned that over to the new york post, the rest is history.
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but then "the new york post" story was also s&p pressed. what fbi -- suppressed. what fbi involvement was there in that letter by the 51 former intelligence operatives, former officials in that's manager we need to investigate. we need to find out how that letter was, how that was proposed, who drafted it. were they in contact with the same fbi officials that were trying to suppress this laptop information? maria: yeah. well, this matters greatly because when we don't see accountability, when we don't actually see wrongs being righted, the more than people will continue to dis-- the american people will continue to distrust and question. that was part of what was going on in 2020 the as well. people were questioning, well, can we trust them? we mow what they did in the russia collusion hoax. your election right now in wisconsin, you say they are interfering in your election because of these smears on you. let's take a look at where you stand in wisconsin. tell me about your opponent and why you believe you right now are being smeared and this is
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the result. 50% for barnes, 46% for johnson in the wisconsin senate race. >> well, again, because of their suppression, they absolutely interfered in the 2020 the election far greater than anything russia or china could ever do. and, yes, by basically saying i'm a tool of russia -- which i am not -- the wisconsin press picks that a up, and there are people who wisconsin who think i'm a tool of vladimir putining. nothing could be further from the truth, but they have smeared me publicly x they just might impact the 2022 election here in wisconsin as well because, let's face it, maria with, they do cannot want me reelected because i would be chair of the subcommittee on investigations. they know i will investigate their corruption. so ron johnson for, aisle going to need -- i'm going to need a lot of help. they've spent more than $50 million smearing me and, of course, the fbi's part of that process. maria: all right. is there anything you want to
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say about your opponent? >> he's the most radical leftist who wants to defund the police, he wants to abolish i.c.e., he supports all these disaster rouse policies hard creating so much pain for americans. maria: thank you, senator. good to talk with you. we'll be watching and keeping a spotlight on it. senator ron johnson in wisconsin. we'll be right back with j.d. vance. ♪
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>> there's probably a greater likelihood the house flips than the senate. senate races are just different. they're statewide. candidate quality has a lot to do with the outcomes. right now we have a 50-50 senate and a 50-50 country, but i think when all is said and done, we're likely to have a extremely close senate, either our side up slightly or their side up slightly. maria: and that was senate minority leader mitch connell,
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lukewarm on the chances that republicans are will take control of the upper chamber this november. the latest fox news senate power rankings show five races mt. toss-up category -- in the toss-up category with 15 seats solidly for republicans and 2 -- 3 leaning to the gop. mt. latest poll from the trafalgar group, j.d. vance holds a nearly 5-point lead with 71 days to go until the midterms. this poll will be released widelied today. it's not been out there yet. joining me right now is candidate j.d. vance, also the author of the best selling memoir "hillbilly elegy." thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. maria: so how would you characterize your race right now? what is most important to the ohio voters, in your view?
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>> yeah, maria, i think we're many a really good spot here in ohio. problem that my democratic opponent, tim ryan, has is he tries to be one thing on his tv commercials, but his voting record and public statements don't back it up. he criticizes mildly the debt forgiveness program, offender, he voted for the exact same thing two years ago -- on the other hand. you can't just flip-flop and expect people to take it seriously. we've got a lot of work to do, and i think we have to make sure that ohio voters actually get out there and vote, because if they don't, we're going to put a guy who supported defund the police and these inflationary policies into the senate of ohio. we deserve to have a good request senator from ohio, not a rubber stamp for joe biden. maria: a political action committee with close ties to mcdonnell connell is launching s launching a $20 million advertising campaign. i know there have been nonstop
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ads for tim ryan. do you feel support from the gop and mitch mcconnell? >> i won the primary and not everybody was happy, but i did. and i think it's time for us all to unite, and certainly i'm very happy to see some of the national republican groups coming into the state because the national democratic groups and donors have been behind tim ryan the entire summer. the only reason guy has a little bit of a chance is because he's been parading these tv commercials around with unlimited national money pretending to be something that he's not. we've just got to tell the truth about him, and i think both with our campaign and the national party's going to do that in the next coupling months which is one of -- couple of months which is one of the reasons i'm so confident. maria: i want to get your take on the american people. we've got polls that say a majority of people are either suffering or believe this country is headed in the wrong direction. we'll continue our conversation with ohio republican senate
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candidate j.d. vance after this short break. stay with us.
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for decades, i've worked at the intersection of domestic violence and homelessness. so when prop 27 promised solutions to homelessness, i took a good, hard look. it's not a solution. 90% of the money goes to the out-of-state corporations who wrote it. very little is left for the homeless. don't let corporations
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exploit homelessness to pad their profits. vote no on 27.
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maria: welcome back. we are back with ohio senate candidate jd vance. and, jd, it's surprising to me that the republicans are not doing with better in the senate polling that a we see given that that everywhere you look les another fire to be put out. we've talked about crime and inflation this morning and, certainly, corruption. but there's also this wide open border. you have to believe this is a real dereliction of duty now that 2 million people have been apprehended, another 1 million have gotten away, we don't know their intentions. and then, of course, the illicit drugs coming through. your thoughts on the impact in ohio. >> well, it's hugely negative, maria. this is one of the things that really bothers me about tim ryan. he says he stands for the working man, but what about millions of illegal migrants coming across the border and competing for jobs?
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what about the fact that ohio is the third leading state when it comes to opioid overdose deaths? these guys say that a we've got to show compassion for illegal migrants, and of course we do, but let's show compassion for our own citizens. let's secure the border. joe biden and tim ryan are have basically turned the u.s. southern border into the drug and sex trafficking capital of the world. we have got to shut this down. and, maria, i think republicans have got to be more aggressive. people can go to jd to support me, but we can't run away prosecute border issue because it's making our country poorer, less safe, and we've got to hang stuff around the democrats' neck because it's their fault. maria: yeah. >> if they made better decisions, if joe biden and tim ryan wanted to secure the border, they could. the fact that they're not shows how little they care about people across the up country. maria: we were just showing pictures of when i visited the border a couple weeks ago for the fifth time and went to the texas crimes lab where they get
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the guns and the drugs they have seized. it was absolutely extraordinary. and i have not heard joe biden mention the word fentanyl once, unbelievably. we will be watching your race, jd. thanks very much for being here this morning, and we appreciate your time. that'll do it for us for "sunday morning futures." have a great sunday, everybody. watch us again today op on fox news at 3 p.m. stay with us. ♪
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♪ ♪ howard: here's a question. we now mow why the justice department ordered the mar-a-lago search after pailing to retrieve some of the documents that a donald trump took to his florida home, but how do we do this? well, multiple people briefed on the matter says the new york times story that most of the media called a bombshell. people familiar with the matter said it's clear some of these sources work for doj and that these leaks are absolutely improper in a criminal investigation even if the target's name is trump. ye m


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