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tomorrow on "special report", as aforementioneden with pennsylvania republican senate nominee dr. mehmetate no. that'll be liveht. on "special report". thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. that'secialreportthat's it for l report, fair, balanced and unafraid. . happy labor day. jesse watters primetime starts right now. ♪ ♪ well, good evening and welcome to a special edition of tucker carlson. >> tonight, it's hard to it's hard believe that buratti hit twos th hundred interviews that we've done for tucker carlson todayur over on fox nation. that's our chance.ha that platform to conduct longer interviews with people who are really interesting w and we want to talk to you for more thanr nh three or four minutes, as we would on the regular nightlytl show here on fox news. so these are our longdiscus discussionsis with some of
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the smartest people, newsmakers, authors, lawmakers, philosophers peoauthors,, and tr for our perspective is this is a subscription service, soant it cannot be censored by big tech, period. so it's always going toe. be there. he mentioned yo a few minutes and some of these interviewsboth here and there on our previous shows. but tonight we're going to show yo n a lot u a lot more .ee peopl we're going to be focusingount on just three people, thosry le would include country legend, john rich, competitive swimmer rileco y gaines, who turned out to be enormously interesting prin and tough.thinke burst first, we speak to one of the clearest thinkers we know,or victor davis hanson, frequently on our nightly show, one of our favorite guests and viewers are constantly asking us to hear more from victor davis hanson. so we're gonna bring i t to you h now in this first party tellshd us how you went from earning a ph.d. to becoming a dirt farmer. irin california's central valle. really an interesting story, his story. >> and it begins here. >> i'm in the same house, but
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it's one hundred and fifty years. and my parents were dyin0 g. l you, he v said, i don't know what to tell you, victor, but would you please keep the house? there o and so i don't know ifr my children want to live there or not, but it's in greatf like shape. i work on it all a the time and it's kind of like a museumbe for me.he so i don't want to be the first to give it up by walking rooms.. and it's just kind of crazy. i hear my aunt, she washe crippled. she lived in the living roomi se for sixty five years. i see where my grandmae lived in - the living room for sixty five years. yes, because they nobody had didn't people didn't put when they had polio she had polo crippled with terrible polio, el and she couldn't go anywhere. i remember talking tkio her and see my grandmother. in th >>e i go out. you, you grew up in your aunt was still living in the living room. yes. we he i meannext t she we had te a little house next to them. and then when ayn i they i m pae away, i moved in there. but i , i visit her every day. we were free range. no, we were like six and they just say go outwe and roam all over one hundred andov thirty acres and my grandparents ndparent house we have
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a house. neighbors would take care of us . it was ideal but in i don't see i thought i could recreate thats officially in the nineteen eighties. so when i came back i cai thougo my kids are goin g to be free schoo range. yeah. them in the public schools juslk like i did. alized i'm going to teach them all i w these skills. and then i realized i wasuse, y people thought they were crazyor because you know say your children are going to those schools. you went to stanford but? they're very great kids. they say to me now know, thankuw you because we all our friendser are multiracial and they gotac practical schools. my son was a great forklift driver and he worked once fordr orchard'iver as. e truc i think it was auto supplierk home depot. and their truck came icad nobodn and nobody was there to unloadre it. so he just he wasn't certifiedlc forklift driver, you know, a little costume on everything . so he just jumped on and d on and just unloaded it really quick and they fired him front loading a truck.nd he di >> yes. because he wasdn unauthorized'tv and he didn't havee the authorized kill from thata particular
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and he could he was a masterfus truck drivertruck drivnce he. he'd been doing it since he wasy eight . so he came back to me and he said they got angry at me.really and i said, congratulations, i'm really proud of you. i mean, that's really good. so those skills i , i was very proud that they had thosed and we're very close. i'm very close to my two children. yeah. ughter ti had a daughter that pd away and she was the same way. she was just so practical. and she grew up picking tomatoes. and so we try to recreate that artificially. but i'm not sure it was the same because it was so fun for us . it was hard work, but this is in a bubble. yo the life you describe trying too create does seem like anes ideal . i mean, it soundwoful.s one of r and i was i worry now when i'm six, i said, did i putind of my kids through, you know, kind of an ordeal to prove a point that they could stillian' be agrarianss an and have a faml farm. and then we grew uy p reallypo wort, poor an idea because farming was worth and at
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some point i just said tohe myself, they have no healtho insurance. i like to straighten stme their teet i've h. the sy myybste i've got to go back and join the system. so i cleaned u ap my act. and you can't raise your kids poorer than you were. yeah, yeah. e were cso we were called regreg that we were leaving the middles clas as, becoming peasants.i be and then i becamcae a great professor. what we were a politics like at this time, my parents wereo stan my mother had gone to stanford.u shlde was a i guess you call th- pat brown. remember very well jerry rr brown's fatherpat br can do dem for every little town theredertk was. the wealthy guy waerbis the undertaker, the big car dealer. it was this 90% tax rate and there was no mobility and they were all republicans and everybody else was democrats. and thenemocrats so my parents,r seems crazy, but they were very socially and culturally conservative, no drinking state . yogou know, ifa you go to a party, you have to shake their hands. d
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you have to look them insay the eye. victor, my mom would pick us up th from did you say thank you to d the host? i said i didn't knowid you get y get back. but they were also in thoseyou o days, you could be democratic,ul democratic was different. but my siblings are all verymuch much more liberal than i am still. yes. i'm the black sheep of the family. interesting. so when yo theu graduate stanfot with this doctorate in classics and decide to go back tode pruning fruit trees, did you have a political ideology at this point? i was conservative from a youngg age.e. i to antoldld my mo my mom i could nt vote for jimmy carter when i was and i liked him.d him, bo but i just couldn't vote fort tt him. f upset aboutbed o that because democrat he was a southern democrat in those days, not quite like shet thought. like thiquite like -s. t prob bulet biggest problem i had was i wrote a book about peoples, about dreams. i thought that it was wrong, that t you gave your product and you work so hard and yete
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you had to be vertically integrated and that requiredthad connections with government and capital totally. and i ista r have a populistbut th streak. i always had that that madate id much. trum so when the trump mega thingr -- came along, i was never i mean, was receptive to that.o the idea that we're going to go back and look at theseosers, hardworking people that we've written off as losers, deplorable, trump's trump's people that biden called chumpsf are dregs.ieth and i really identifiedem with them because i've b grown p with them. and so for me, it wasn't so much donald trump the person, d tht it was what he represented. and i couldn't figure why all206 these republican candidates in 2016 didn't say, why are we a giving china all of theslle trae is ambushes? why are we opening our border?th these warsese that i supportedh costiraq war and the but they were not in a cos tt to benefit moral sense, workingr th out for the people that were fighting them.
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and so i couldn't understand the never trump movement because i thought everybody wanted to help the middle class and conservatives. but i realized thae thtat t the republican party was one of myat i had grown up with . my father had said t fo me, , i like republicans. you just remember victory.they they hav have a certain class. so they have a certain view of,n you. and had kind oi kind of return , even though i don't dem vote democratic. buocratic, bt i i'm not comforte with very wealthy country club republican .to and that's a stereotype. it's unfair. s i realiztereotype, it's e, but i don't think it's unfair at all. you don't? yeah, well, no don't?.ker: i i grew u gworld sop in that wor. >> i can tell you it's not fair at all. i used to think it is unfair defensively, but now i realizeoa it's completely okay. yeah, it's absolutely true. well, stereotypes are rooted in some truth that they wouldn't off, of course. but did that so but by the time trump came around, you were an established
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famous i mean, i read you for a long time in national review . yeah. i don't know if i was famous, but. well, you're famous among conservative intellectuals. yeah, for sure. d you and you're one of my favoe pieces i've ever read on the changes. the central valley. di people knew who you were, who were paying attention. did affect your friendships.r diitd you lose friends over because you were an early adapter or adopter o ir whatever the phrase is ? i didn't know much about donald trump. muci wasn't a supporter of hisn the primaries, but i knew he was going to win.because he wasy i just knew it because he wains saying things that i could not believe. you kng to row, we're going to redo youngstowedn, ohio. and then he came to california to talk to a bunch of farmers. and i said, did he come here? and did he have the straw on the mouth and the caterpillar and didn't know he had this black suit? it was a hundred and five wagrees and he had two queens. and so i said,sn in other words, he wasn't hillary clinton or joe biden put you all in chains or you didn't change, as i
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middl said, he's authentic and he's representing the middle class. so i thought he had a very good o chance. but as far as your othertheryeah question, i , yeah, i lost all . those friends. i left national review last this year after twenty years and i think they were happy to nae me leave to an why didn't she leave national review? becaustie there were certain issues that would pop up occasionally i could predict, what the answer was going to be . the covington kids i just sense that before we knew anything, people would come and condemnem them or the access hollywood people at national. >> yes, condemn, because? i think there were certain people in the republican movement or establishmenan movet who felt it's their duty to internally police their own. and that's kind of a virtue signal to the left. a we are just part of your class. we share the same values as you
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do and we keep our craziesmpiril and they're not empirical. you saw it on january six . i mean, we all condemn that t buffoonishha riot. but within two weeks, i said to myself, ashley babbitt was shott unarmed and we don't know anything about the policemen. we don't know anything aboutan the report. when a policeman shoots somebody who's unarmed, there's. pictures everywhere. it was no no warning>> tucke, be way.y ar and then they're having officer sic nick lie in state. was but i want to know where the evidence is that he was killed. died of he wasn't killed. stroke o he died of a stroke ore of -- some type of the national review wasn't on that. >> oh, no, no. and then there wasn't armed insurrection. there were no weapons found on the people who were arrested . they're not event even being chd and tried with dispatch. they're sitting in an purgatory . and so these issues, i wouldngeu i would get angry about. and i try to convey that anger, but i think they felt that many i can't say they all, bulot i think a lot of them felt it
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learn how to protect yourself from life threatening blood clots that stop the clot. >> dogs spread the word. t when there's a lot of barking and yelling in the swamp. when we look back with a smokevs from what we're living through right now, victor davis hanson e will be one of those peoplelly a historians look to tppo understand what really happened because he takes the long view view. . he's a wise man.e dyin co his book, the dying citizen, hansen writes that american citizenship as we know it, is vanishing. and that's partly because politicians have used the immigration system tot dilute the meaning of citizenship in order to keep themselves in power. n power.d part oin the second ps our interview, hansen tells us how elite hhiels shield thems from the effects ofe effe their policies, particularly the openct border policiest mean ♪nd what that means fosr the rest of us . >> i'm confident if we would just have legal measured, se
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meritocratic and diverse immigration, it would work as i n itt always has with theker: we italians and people. dion you say diverse, what d you mean by that?y thatwe have twenty thousand thirty four thousand from mexico. hav we have some from kenya, we some have some from finland. we have themt get so that we dt get a tribal block where people do not see others that are unlike themselves. so that is one of the big differences in our immigration scheme. presently, it's overwhelminglyu from one region, one language, one ethnicity, whereason before that, you know, across greeced n and frantzce, absolutely. germany, mexico.. ted kennedy in the 1960, he changed the immigration law with family reunification rather tha immigran democratic l . but that was a euphemism forr ch change of demography to benefit the democratic party as the party of, you know, the patron. and these were going to be theat toasantshe and they were going o be indentured and they were going to show their fealty forba
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expanded welfare. that's simplistic, but it'sll hp basically what happeneped. i'm confident it's going to change, though. wereg to seereo startinsee th that, weren't we, in twenty ,19, eighteen and nineteen. a gradual ducation and illegal immigration and the powers of assimilation, i think would have kicked in. we saw to see more people from asiaas, but i'm very pessimisti twpeo million scheduled in this fiscal year to come across the border. it's going to be a disaste it'sr. im how will that play out overnk? time, do you think? we'll sure. it won't affect the people who engineered it. they will be . and the bicoastall will enclavew and their knowledge of peoplleeg who speak spanish will be maria the housekeeper, and juan the gardener. and they'll feel good aboutey wl puemselves, but they will never schotheir kids in an integratetd school or entertain orwith p socialize with people from mexico. i caeo mexn see it in palo alto, where i work at stanford. but in.he the long run, we're impacto it's going to the mexican-american lower and middle classes, becauseple r
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when you have these people fromm central america, they go ing th the firsey dt thing they do in the class, they'll say, you're a , you don't speak spanish to third generation mexican-american kid, or they'll haveird-gene crime or yu will not have advanced placement courses because you'llvanced have to return to the bilingual paradigm and the people who pay tha pt price for these local communities in california, in the american southwest, that are mostly mexican-american and they're progressing just if i could be reductionists along the trajectory of italian americanst, alons, if i say todu cuomo or giuliani, youom can't tell by the italian name what their affiliation is because holi've assimilated. they were catholics, southern european. they came from sicily. c, southern cand southern italy but basically untilol this way, e upe we gav on assimilation and control borders, they were starting to of ic the patterns of italian american. and you think that's changing?ch absolutely.el i meany. , there's a wide open rever border today.ugh ou it reverberates to our whole
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society. so we're telling people you must be vaccinated. i don't want to get inens the science of that. but citizens aresupposed supposs be vaccinated, but not two million people coming across the border unvetted or one hundred thousand refugees are not going to be asked to be vaccinated. but the soldiers who escort them at risk forrisk to their s have to be vaccinated. int, the vaccination is not the point. it's why do we make it harder on a citizen than alonso? just - >>- that's what i am.d the and what is the.n a bu i've noticednc the same and i se it on a bunch of different levels. yeah, but it's alwayh is the sse thing. we make it harder on the citizen than on the person. eric i think it's partly a generic idea that the underdog, the lefte left always wants toon romanticize somebody who's poor and coming here. hereing to heng to hav different roles, sort of like affirmative action for immigrants. but there is a raciae l component to it. i think the left in this and this kennedy wapner's anti race, you have tocist i be racist if you're going to be an anti-racis at. . if we had european poor come in from eastern europe in droves,
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i think they would have norn eup tolerance for them. and also, i do there's an ethnic element. th there's so many catalysts for illegaeralysl immigration.eb mexico wants the 60 billion that it shares with centrales w americanith remittances. they want a safety valve, youos know, march across the border, not on mexico city when we're corrupt and we're racist and they are racist. ,compared to the way they treat their indigenous people, then we have a massivel>> tuckey. el. th absolutely. and then we have the la razaen movement that wants to changinhg demography. we have the democratic party flip, california, nevada, coloradoe om calif, i think texs and arizona, they've done mexico. worlhey're a factoo theyr. then we had the corporate world were you know, it really drove down wagesdo. yo.u hire somebody and everybod diff, wellwell, yeah, but you're just it's not that different when you pay somebodyn ca six dollars or eight dollars isr cash versus ten or twelve. but it was different because the hardest workers in the world are people from warhawwhere k. they were desperately poor. work that
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and i've never seen people worka that hard, at least the first generation, very hard, very anrd, wonderful people, hard working and exploited d and it w really that was what was ironic about the democratic party. ty,d they destroyed their old union base or the lowe r middle classes of all tribes and racesg becaushte they they bought intoi this open borders ideade. you're old. i mean, you're old enough to remember very well cesarcesa chavez. yes. i grew ur chp with himavez. yes delanoe, i usehod to see yeah. he came to selma, my hometown. all the time, head of the united farm workers, great pickers unioers, gren, famously california grapes because ei a i think it's fair il say, a savage opponent of illegal immigratiolen. the he went down to the borderorce and use force to stop people from coming cross and the word u . if you go back go ba on the literature, i can remember at rallies in lincolnwo park in selma where people would say noulfor th because the
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they call them scabs. yeah, they are very.marted and then the teamsters sort of outsmarted them by pressuring both republican and democratic administrations open the border to destroy the farm workers and then chavez got into synanon and a lot of weird things and he kind of went crazy, went crazy at the yeahr:. why why would this is kind of far afield, but i'm interested. so the americautn labor movemeno led restriction to immigration for a hundred year10s. did restrictionist measure was a product of their lobbying, but then they decide they wantrw to open the borders, which obviously hurts their man. >> they wanted ttho the teamstes union. they wanteeyo get of the unid tf the union into the teamsters and certified established unions. and that was there was an ethnic chauvinism thatmore t united farm workers washa more than a labor union. it was a social cultural, political movement. and the corporate world looked d lo at that and thought thesokede g are, you know, i guess they thought they were communists or social communist.a
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so we'rems going to deal with the devil. we know the teamsters. so they backed the teamsters to break the united farm workers. but it wasn't hard to do whenthn the robert f. kennedy health fund was corrupt and chavez's family had a whole octopus tentacles all over the union. and so they kind of self imp imploded. and but the corporate worl butd would rather deal with. the teamsters any day than ufw. and then the wholen thin union f blew up. >> and now most of the labort uo is not unionized. riedreally gains certainly never expected to become a political figure. she dedicate a politicald her wo competitive swimming. and then the ncaa and the university of pennsylvaniae comr allowed a man called leah compe thomas to compete againstet here and to walk to the locker room as she and her teammates wouldn. change. r lifet changed he completely for an episode. tucker carlson herde ofe. gai she spoke to riley gaines about what that was like. the mome listen. abou next, tell us about the moment she learned about leah thomas.
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into the presence of top secret papers found in trump's home during an fbi search last month . it's unknown if the justice department intends to appeal the judge's decisiony. . >> jackie binya is now back to tucker carlson tonight. where the spent her life becoming one of the top collegiate swimmers in the united states . she set the two hundred meter ncaa championships record . but at the ncaa championships this year, gaines was forced tso compete against a man, at the the university of pennsylvania swimmer callin usylvaniag himseh thomas. for tucker carlson day. champoke tfor "to rally gaines t how hard she trained for that championship and about how she first learned that a maner. planned to compete against her. here's what she told us . >> what's the of the ninen, months you're in schools in session? >> like, how many of those areru we are tning?mm oh, so we'rehere there over sum, were there over christmas ,was a were there ovellr thanksgiving, were there over spring break, fall break't get tom. >> we don't get to go home ever. for real.
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yeah. real?we get christmas eve off and christmas day to come home. mabut we have a lot of international students who obviously you can't makekett home and that amount of time.her and so they'ree forced to kinda of stay there. were there over al tl break . mmer you never leave.gust a yondu get a week off in august and then you're right t back to it. >> so that's kinucker:thd ofat't hoping to tease out of you.ound >> i didn't realize it was that profound. so this is a commitment ofcan'tv people can't even know.o. >> so all summer you have tocauu stay there.yo you have tu o take classeshaveio because to swim, you have to tak take classes and to take classes. you're there to swim. so it's kind of like the cyclel wherswe your school and swim ali the time. kn so like yoowu said, i know you u being funny, but there's really not time for anything. there's hardly time tos ha to fe relationships outside of swimming. eher fardly time to se your familmily ay and things lie that. so it's why di?d yo u do that? i know it's crazy.tly, i i don't know. lik honestly, it is a bit like yoult look back and especially nowo ty
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that i'm done, i'm like, c how did i commit that much timer ? no st muchhing? effort to somet, but it's it's kind of the price you pay when you're that invested towards your goals. and towards getting better at something that you just kind ofs oddly love. how tight wa thes the team?am? yeah, really. close. we have about forty girls in our team, so it's kind of an interesting dynamic. but like i said, when we spendti all that tim e together, you have classes with your teammates. we're at the pool essentially all hours of the day. family, wc it ends up being like your family, which i think kind of replaces the feeling of notil being able to see your realy family all the time. ople thayou do have people thats like your family, which help.s. >> did you were you as close to your teammates? did you look. yeah, yeah, i did. >> i lived with three otherwe w girls. we werere like te like this. soa and so having that was nice. amazing. yeah. so all oo alf you, i assumen thy teeth kind of came up as you everyone on the kentucky team kind of came up as you did, like they've been doing this
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since they were littlebeen de tg toward a goal. >> yeah., makingiv making these massivee comm commitments all of a sudden o into this pretty predictableing, world, this pyramid of swimming. right. moving toward the top is thrown this like completely this curve- ball of a guy who's competing. so when did you first hear about us ? >>t so i first heard about thomas and about november of last year, which is about the middle of our season. so how swimming works is youmee kind of have dolmades ininason novebeginning of the season and in middle of the season, which, like i said, is november ,december ish. one b aligl teams will go to one likei bigger me and this is typically where like the fastest times thus far in the nation are hosted. >> and so you guys all know a each other allt some . you exactly. and so typically you kind of like any sport, i imagineer works. you're better swimmers know ofbr your bette sr swimmers, regardless of what school or what conference you're at. you know, that's just how it works.
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you know each other. you competpetee internationally together. you even if you'ree on not t you on the same collegiate team,s th you've probably been on teams together before. if that makes sensift e. and so you do all know each other. and so all oere thf a sudden, of nowhere, there's this article posted that says lia thomas, swimmer of upin post, won forty one two hundred freestyle, which is a very, very fast time1 20is a. had >> - and so this was right after i if you're a swimmer, you would be impressed by that. >> yeah, that's really fast. fod so i being someone who was contending for a national spot, i see thisr in that same eventh i seole this and i'm like, holy moly, that's really fast. son,who is this person? i've never heard of them. t and so i clickhe a on the artice and it says it's a senior swimmer. she's from japan, which is aol historically a swimming school,o . and so i was'm t completelaly ti for a loop.i' and so i'm talking with my coach . i'm like, who is this personhemd fecause i've never heard o them. and this is a really first time
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in their senior. so they must have just come out of nowhereno to post the fastest time by a great and the event that i was hoping to win the national title in.e i and so that was kind of the end of that. i get back to training and stuff, and a couple of days: later, another article was postedli. >> anyone know this? lee thomas? n did you know anyone? like i know it wa--s very much like s least for a couple of days. it was very much like it was peo this person?n. and then another article i is posted that very briefly disclosed. leah thomas was formerly, well, thomas and swam on the men's side for three years. i'eathen back to the other information of the article. and so i'm sitting theree, and and honestly, i was like relieved because i was like, oh, awesome. like, this isn't a threat to mel anymore because they won't be able to swim in some ways's like, great like i'm back in like my top contending spot. perfect. k in mphow much? t plumbe and you're one of the fastest>>y swimmer in the countryea infreet the 200 freestyle.ylucker: yeah. yeah. i mean, your event. in
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yeah.your e i think atvent the tim at the e i was about third or fourth ranked in the nation and so and so how fast was his time will lead thomas this time compared to your fastest time. >> at least a second hallefas faster. t was >> wow. yeah.hink and that was a time i think dua they swim in a dorm, which is if, you know, swimming really rare. and so it was kind of just like who ? like how who's this person? i was just like kind of.ound but when i when i found out that leo was formally well, thrl i was honestly thrilled. i was like, okayle, great. s hap soen i would never let this happen to where we have someonew to swim three years as aim male swim with the females at our national championships. onaland so i kind of just went about my my training because i was like, there's this is a good thing. maybe. but turns out two weeks before our national championship sensibly announced, leo will be competing with the females. >> and i was just like mind blow
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learn more about supporting veterans in your community by visiting legion dog. ker: despite his name, john rich didn't grow up rich. in fact, ha e grew up in a trailer park in amarillo, texas, and went on to becomend a country music legend. we dow sn with him for tuckerho carlson today and he toldd succ us just how he achieved successs and much more important than success, happiness. it turned out toit turne be bea remarkable interview. >> here's part of it. if you're 18 or 19 and you're trying to be a country music in star and you're on the road in a station wagon, with your>> i friends, what's the workdi schedule? >> well, it didn't makdn't meakl my parents feel happy to tell sn you that.
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i remember my mother saying you'll never amoununt to at to l of beans if you don't go tod my college. and my very cocky and disrespectful answer came back . well, a hill of beans is not what i intend on a mountain toe! buy. and i took off van pulling a trailer, playing holiday inns all over north america from vancouver down to orlando. i meano., everywhere in between. but that's where i got sharp and that's where i learned how to how to perform. and i was around guys that werei better than i was, whichng way omething i continue to do, is surround myself with people way better than me. n methey got they got a bar hig. ge so i know i'm still pushing, trying to get up there. and i got sharp around those guys and got good at what i do have stayed for.r: how m >> like, how many gigs a yearard would you play back then. yeah. y couple of hundred. what's that brutal. i would no i'm glad i did that. i would not do that now, but at nineteen twenty twenty one . twenty two . twenty three . that's, 23, that when you're sud take on work like and listen there's sten, to many great writers and singers
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and performers across this country that you're up against. your competition is ridiculous. there is no end to how great somebody can write a song or play a guitar or sing orlimi entertain. there's really no limit to it, i'ich is what excite it,s me abt it, that there's never anyit, ia ceiling i'm going to hit. i can always get better than u real yoam. and so because of that, you abouize if you want it, man, go get it. it's lik e the show you talked about the pursuit. we're not guaranteedt the right to be happy, tucker. we're guaranteed the right toin pursuean happiness. i and you're not always happyyou'e when you're pursuing it. but you ougho t tobe h be happyt you've got a right to at leastt go for it. we should take advantage of that in this country. thi that we have the right to pursue happiness and absolutely exhaus exht our potential everyo chance we get .he oth >> how hard is iert to get alon with the other guys inva a band it's real hard.s re yeah, we always read about thatd . oh everybody's got different lives. some guys are married with kids. some guys are in their earlyring twenties with no stringsg attached, you know, soan a lot f as wt of moving and shakin goes on in that. but you learn there as wellur ta thatm you're a team and you got
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to give sometimes they got tond give . sometimes itca can get hot downn the road. >> you lock a bunch of guys uprd for that many days in a row. it sounds awful. >> how did you get als als record deal? it's fun to pick up afteo.r playing that long word started getting out. these boys from texas areys pretty good and a record label d got heard about us and came out and saw us at this little tiny lounge. i mean, tiny. and we got in there and played a six. there wa>> tuckes that it was in tinyville at the opryland hotel . wow.nge ca and lla little tinedy lounge ca the backstage lounge. and wela played a set and a guy walks up, he goes, you guys should be making records. we went, yeah, we think so too. that moved into our first record deal. how the record do i think thatio sold two or three million copies? tam yeah. yeah. son co >>nce you sell two or three , i mean, you're kind of at that t point your point, you're really us . yeah, i do.y down like yes, i can lay downan, you' on the road because you're in a van man. you know, you're, you're like i'm like i'm calling the floorboard. i just want to be able toto lay lay down, you know, you're in between seats and , you know,ig
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you have to you have to struggle and suffer to go getin these big things. you just do. i think people these days think that if they don't get what they want, when they want and exactly how they want it,owb they'rrie onto a brick through'r my window. g yeah.tosh and they're never going to anyth accomplish anything that'sundera truly great because they don't understand what it takes to >> tet i >> they're not willing to bleed for it. so as soon as you get thee reco record deardl, then you become by definition, you're established, you're making money righy, peoplt. people are investing in you. right.and th and then outen of the woodworkss come all the people who attach t themselves to you to make money for themselves.yfor themselves. >> correct. >> tucker: what wa correct. at >> what was that like? well, you know, i think early ns on they're somewhat necessary because you don't know what the . well, of course they are. sadon't re doinyou don't know anything abot it. yeah. yeah. i mean, my first checky ar camen on a song on my first number one and my dad calls me and because my mail will still go into hiouse, ans house, he gi i just got to check in the mail from him. i really open it up. he opens it up and he goes, he t can't be right. i said, what does it say? good and he tells mgoe the number.
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and i went, good god . he goes, do you think that's a real.i tst bd, well, the song wen number one . i don't know what you get paid. i must be right.aid yo and so he you take 33% of thats and put it in a savings account because you're going have to pay taxes on this and ten percent of it is tithe tie out don't get that part. and he starts laying it out.sird i'm like, yes sir.n yo and then that's when you start getting business managers and attorneys and manageeysrt i. and all those things because you really don't know anything about it. gegood at whe justle lif life ju getting good at what you'reed getting good >> and you live ad in a trailer as kid in the panhandle ooff texasd >>o all of a sudden you make money like what do you doker: w with i don't even knowha whatth this means. what did you do with it? i bought my grandparents house . really? >> tll.y?fi first thinrst g i did, my granny rich and my papa rich world ward two vet. and here's a woman that was bor born in the dust bowl days in d the middlein of west texas.. the great depression real tough simultaneously. these things are going on and they were social security. she's still working 40 ,
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50 hours a week at a dollar tryn store. he's trying to flip used cars. i get my hands on this money. y and i thought you know what?s is the only reason i get to like th go chase down dreams like this n like that it,ld ma that went out and fought and bled and died for our rightt to go do it. and i don'he t like them being on social security and flipping used cars and stocking shelvesya at a friend's dollar store. so i'll buy them a house.ouse o sout i bought a house out in i ree country, big house, and i remodeled the basement. and that'snt and where i live ft the next four years. >> o way with your grandpa.ex that's right.ico thbest time of my life. >> is nothinve been thrilled. there's nothing betterg in u walking up the stairs.hours smog and your grandpa's been up for three hours smoking his fifth cigaret and looking. he go sit ab i need touo tell you a story thd it's something about world war two or some horrific thing you can't imagine, you know, and man, just what i what i got from that being around that generation, the greatest generation has never left me the military mission in afghanistan. will conclude on august 31st. i don't believe among any of
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i'm so sorry about your boss, but they moved the world cup to the holidays. >> we let the actual world come to my holiday season. >> are you kidding me? yeah. there's messi and ronaldo. yeah, but that's my time to shine. i mean, i'm not supposed to be with that. you know what? get blitzen on the phone. i got to get back up there right now. i got to go just for fauci upgrades into the detail. i want you to call. don't do is another option. do we have i'm not going to let anything happen to our family. no one can ever know the truth. bad news, the cleaning lady, all new episodes, monday, september 19th on fox and watch season one any time. >> hi , this is mike huckabee. isn't it amazing how so much that president trump that still rings true, but schools in the media don't want our kids
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and it looks like they want to put us on our knees and the only way a human being ever has to reach up is you have to put them down first. ifup i walk upo ttuckero tucked on my own two feet, i shakee fo your hand like this, rightr . what does it take for me tove t have to shakgoe your hand like that? >>o go down. tuc >> yes, it to put me down for me will ch up. and that's whanot i see going on in our country. and i will not abide by that. i will not set that example for my kids. ican i want i want regular everyday americans out there watchingistu guys like me with bothp fists up, still got a grin on my face .o that t go . i'm going to do that, too.wh and whatever area i live in and whatever my life is , i'm also not going tto beno bend the knee. good. everybody should say that coat's how you save your country. >> i completely and your ownunt dignity, by the way,ar and your self-respect. you're able to live with yourself. yeah. stay a manall ofif you stay a me of all the if we had, you know,h everybody, you know, iner nashville, all the creators, the artists, you know, nashville at dinner right now that was not being recorded, everyone could be honest. what percentagrest, whate woulde
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with what you just said?d? about the artists? i >> the artists? you i'd say i'd say you'd be wayr: l worth of 50% sixty still. yeah. i mean, you've got artists that are absolute there. they're full blown dedicated liberals. lown ded liberalare good for thh america. go be that. the problem is they're allowed to be a wide open liberal and still succeed in outsp the industry. but if you're anok outspokencons conservative, that is no longeen allowed. it's you see it in businessesd and corporations do. but that's how iart is . but art and music cannote be contained. >> tucke it is an x factor here. it is invisible. it is missed. it is smoke through the keyhole. you cannot keep it down. ic hav and so alle it takes is that the creators of that music have to have enough resolution that they're going to make sure it at least gets heard. t nd one time and you can't stopthat music. that's what's so exciting abou't what's interesting in listening to you talk, since i happeersin
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know your story and i know thata you're genuinely talented in businessre genui, so you're an l creator. i mean, you're an actual songwriter. you're not jusr, nott take other people's stuff and sing it, butu you're also good at commerce t and business. like, how did you do that? that's an unusual combination. i >> yeah, it isn't on you.-- it is .on't m peyou don't mean many people who can do that.lot of i've signed a lot of bad b contracts. i'vead o busi go out of businessuldn't with people. >> you know, i've learned it - i you the hard way. you me'v y peopleleaz along the way. >> now, never in the music business are you talking.again. here we go . conspiracy talk again. you know, i've always been the kind of guy that i always ask god fairly regular basis. hey, can you help me see around this corner? but because i can see straight ahead and i can see behind me, but i can't see aroundwhat's the corner. can you give me an idea of what's over there? jujust whenever and throughout
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my life he has given me little little bop bop move me aroundd h a little bit and i get to peek around the corner and i go , interesting. that's an interesting thing. it might take me ten years toit, see that come to fruition. at's a -but that's that's a thas what's around the corner. probably proba. t thank yoheu for the note. so thee n i'll move in that direction. >> ttake a long time doing it and still doing what i love to do. >> so you trust what you hear if you can't trust em, yout anyd can't trust anybody.y.e yo he's the only one you cau cany r totally trust. i call it short ball. long ball. got you've got to play to them both the same time.t m ou short ball mightt be that i'm out on the road. foreve one hundred concerts, but i don't want to dor. that forever. lon ball is this other thing that's way down the road that takes a long time to see ifkeep that's even possible, but that keeps me sane because i don't see an end to where i could possibly go . i see no ceiling above my headit because i can see around the corner a little bit and know that that's possible. that thaif we do this the rightu >> that' cs it for us tonight.
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