hunt that you should check out. it dropped today on the untold story. really interesting background on his thoughts on the monarchy. that is "the story" for today. thursday, september 15. the story goes on. look forward to seeing you tomorrow at 3:00. thanks for joining us. "your world" starts right now. >> neil: crisis averted, or is it? the white house and union striking a deal to avoid a streak with a pay-out to union workers that sign on. now the big question is, will they? we're all over it with edward lawrence at the white house where the deal was struck. jeff flock in philadelphia on if the rank and file will follow up. labor secretary marty walsh, the man that helped get it done in the first place. welcome, everybody. i'm neil cavuto. so much going on. that could have been a disaster for the u.s. economy. that doesn't mean it's a done

deal, but it's closer to a done deal. the vote is on. jacqui heinrich at the white house with the latest. jacqui? edward lawrence. i apologize. >> i can be confused for jacqui. i can see how that would happen. no, no, yeah, this was all approved about 5:00 a.m. this morning. that's what we understand. the president says that this is good for america. this is -- americans avert the strike, could devastate the economy while giving the unions about a 24% increase over the next five years or so. again, the president says this is good for americans. here's the president. listen. >> together we reached an agreement that will keep our critical rail system working and avoid disruptions of our economy. i'm grateful for members of the administration who worked tirelessly to help get this done. >> republicans say there's still a long way to go. all of the unions now have to

ratify this agreement. >> i hope -- i've heard that they have a tentative agreement. i hope it becomes an agreement. i hope we don't have a rail strike. i'm surprised the administration couldn't get this done before today. >> so union bosses say they can get the job done and the agreement will be pushed over the finish line. still, the white house, again, saying that this was a disaster averted. >> we have to remember what we averted here. this would have been devastating for our economy. devastating for our supply chain. so what we saw, you know, the last few hours in this agreement is that, you know, we are -- it's good for our economy and it is good for the american people. >> the president could use a win on optics this week. as you know, he held a celebration on the day that inflation was around nearly 40-year high and core inflation rose for the first time in four months.

>> neil: so sorry, edward. i thought you were going to become jacqui. that didn't happen. thanks very much. let's go to jeff flock there philadelphia. he's been following this closely. it's not quite a done deal here, but there's features to it that would be pretty appealing to other unions looking at this. >> there's some features that are appealing, neil. on the most important issue, that is to say work rules, attendance policies, there's not a lot of detail in there. yeah, they say it's going to get better. the devil is in the details. we caught up with the president of the brotherhood of locomotive engineers and trainmen. just emerged from that 20-hour negotiating session. he said it was a slog. but he understands that there's people that will be hard to convince. listen. >> we think we have a deal that our membership will accept. a strike is always a last resort.

it's part of the process. not only do unions have the right to strike, employers have the right to lock us out. that's happened before, too. it's a two-way street. >> here's what we know is in the deal, neil. the part that you're referring to that looks good is that 24% pay increase. i'll tell you, talking to some of these people, they feel they have been taken advantage of over the course of the past couple years without a raise. continuing to work long on-call times, shifts. this may not be enough for some

people. some people have said they are going to strike or they're going to vote against it if they don't have enough of an improvement in their quality of life. neil? >> neil: a very good point, jeff. one key union yesterday rejected the same deal. i don't know how much it would sweeten. we'll explore that later. jeff flock in philadelphia on that. i raised the issue with marty walsh on fox business. he talked about the tick tok moving forward to get it approved. the labor secretary. >> what will happen now is that the union leaders will take it back to their membership, have a chance to discuss it. democratic process, the members will take a vote on it. there's 12 contracts in total that need to be voted on. they'll be in sporadic time. i feel good. this contract, a lot of time and effort went into it. i think that at the end of the day, the members will look and see the importance of this contract. this contract respects the value of workers for the train companies. >> we're told you were shepherding this process and

took the better part of 20ey'll. i'm going to keep asking you questions. but i will out of curiosity, secretary, wonder what took so long? what were the sticking points? >> you know, this has been a two-year negotiation. took a presidential emergency board to come together to get this negotiation moving forward. there was several issues last night. a lot of it is language. it's about getting into the weeds on language. when you're in negotiation, you're down to the last several items, seems to be the longest to get it resolved. and i think a lot of it was passing paper back and forth. i was walking back and forth between the rooms, making sure both sides were staying, talking leading up to yesterday. a lot of it was done in person, through computers. yesterday morning when everyone came in the office, i said i want an agreement before today. with the help of both sides, we got an agreement done. >> neil: these are generous

provisions, secretary, for the workers and a lot of the pay stuff was ironed out. those were not new developments but a 24% pay increase by 2024. immediate 14% pay increase like now. $1,000 annual bonuses for the next if five years. someone has to pay for that. i'm wondering whether it's going to turn up in higher shipping costs, higher product prices for americans. >> let me address that. the 14% right now. the 14% is the workers on the trains have been working without a contract for the past two years. so they've been working with a wage from three years ago. if they had done a negotiation and got it done in time, you would have seen that increase happen. so that 14% is for the last two years. that's where that increase comes from. this is a good contract. you're looking at the companies that have done well in the last couple years here in the united states of america. the workers have worked hard. they have worked through a pandemic, kept our supply chains moving forward. we have to respect our workers.

that is what this contract shows. the carriers were at the table last night and they stated that. the unions stated that. at the end of this all, everyone walked away feeling in a good position. the president talked about it today. it's about making sure that we continue to move our freight around the country and continue to respect our workers that move that freight. >> neil: i want your thought on inflation and whether that is now with some companies laying off workers or downsizing, you know, in light of those pressures, does that worry you that inflation itself -- this is a separate deal, i grant you, is a real problem for american workers? >> no, certainly. i think we've been clear in this administration that we're doing everything we can to bring down the pressures. the numbers that came out the other day, i would have liked to have seen them lower. we're doing everything we can to bring the costs down like i'm doing everything i can to get opportunities for good jobs. we're going to continue to work. working on supply chain issues. if the rails struck and out of

work today, that would have added additional pressures to the inflationary numbers. we have to do everything we can to prevent adding to inflation and bringing costs down. >> neil: we should explain the long interview, quite a long interview, is on our fox business website here. we get into the math and the numbers and whether they add up and specifically whether this will translate because i did follow that up a lot on higher costs for items. i regret that was not in this thing. you can go ahead to our fox business website to see exactly how he explains the math and will not lead to higher prices or other unions trying to seize on this. saying what you did for them, we want you to do for us. steve moore on that part of the story. steve, i apologize. that was not included here. the gist of that was no, we don't think that this is something that other unions will do. it's a different case for different groups. do you agree with that? this has generous provisions. some of these are back dated.

if i'm another union, private or public, i'm looking and saying that's a good start. what do you think? >> so it was a fascinating interview. one of the things that really struck me is, you know, that 24% pay increase. it reminded me a little bit the last time i've seen pay increases like that, you know, it was the late 70s when you had the high inflation. i'll never forget there was a very famous story of the united auto workers signing i think like a three-year deal for a 25% pay increase. turned out that they lost money. inflation was so high over that period that they -- the wages counts keep pace with the higher prices. we're in this spiral, neil. prices go up so then labor -- the wages have to go up. the prices go up because obviously, you know, if you -- you asked the right question. isn't this going to raise shipping costs? of course it will. eventually passed on to the

consumers. we're in a dangerous situation right now where the pressures are all right now to keep lifting prices. by the way, i'm not against wage increases for workers. i want to see it. i want to see them getting wage increases over inflation, not under inflation. >> neil: we should stress the labor secretary said he didn't think this would pass on. >> i don't agree with him. >> neil: history doesn't indicate that with other deals. you raised a very good point. you know, prices go up, wages go up and then the wages go up some more in response to prices going up more. that was the experience of the 1970s. >> exactly. >> neil: a lot of people say that's where we're headed. you know, we see sporadic evidence of that. now we're starting to see lay-offs or employers now rethinking about how many workers can work from home. so the pendulum is swinging a bit. where do you see it going? >> i think the economy is slowing down. look what is happening in europe right now.

europe is in a pretty harsh recession right now. there's real worries. i've talked to some major ceos of fortune 100 companies in the last few days. they're worried that infection like a virus from europe will head this way. you look at, for example, what is happening in london right now where people are paying $9 and $10 for gasoline. that kind of inflation god forbid come be coming this way. >> neil: by the way, their inflation is running north of 9%. that's a relief from where they were in double digits. the fact is, that might be a preview of coming attractions. >> yeah. you know, it is true that there's been some lay-offs and true that there's been some hiring freezes. but a lot of these companies are still having problem finding workers. i think a part of this solution to getting americans back to work -- we're still about two or three million americans below the number who should be working if we had the labor force

participation rate before covid, neil. one of the reasons for that, a lot of reasons for it, but one of them is a lot of these welfare benefits and the end of work requirements for these benefits. i can't tell you how many employers that i talked to say i'm having a hard time competing with uncle sam for getting workers back on the job. >> neil: real quickly, steve. we were down another 173 points on the dow today. we made up virtually no ground since that big 1200 plus point day. i'm wondering what you make of that. >> if you compare the dow jones today versus january 21 of 2021 when biden came into office, it's no flat. no gains. that may sound not too bad except that don't forget that inflation also affects, you know, investors as well. so investors have lost about 12% of their money in the stock markets since biden came in because you have zero gains but 12% increases in prices. so that's a pretty negative

situation. i'd call it a bear market. >> neil: on the fears that the federal reserve will keep hiking rates. that will effect that real wage and real gain issue. >> what else are they going to do? they have to get this inflation under control. it's like, you know -- >> neil: they're the only game in town. we'll be watching that steve moore, good seeing you. meantime, we were talking about washington. big news in the nation's capitol that had nothing to do with what we talked about and everything to do with migrants. a bus coming this time outside the vice president's residence. griff jenkins was there for that. griff? >> it was quite a scene. two buses dropping migrants off outside of vice president kamala harris' house. we have on that story next.

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>> what these republican governors are doing again is a political -- they're using people, using desperate people, people that are trying to come here because they're fleeing communism themselves as a political pawn. >> neil: the politics not withstanding, this goes on with buses of migrants. you heard about the planes that arrived at martha's vineyard from florida. now from texas, two buses to washington d.c. right outside

the vice president's residence. griff jenkins was there to see it all. griff? >> good afternoon. governor abbott has sent nearly 200 buses of 8,000 migrants to washington d.c. since april. but this morning for the first time, two buses here outside of harris' home. take a look at this video we shot a little before 7:00 a.m. this is two buses with 101 total migrants. most of them venezuelan. there were some cubans, nicaraguans and columbians. we talked to some of the migrants, one in particular. he had a very different opinion of whether this border is open or closed. contrary to vice president harris, here's what he had to say. >> everybody says the border is open. it's open. we come in. we come in free. >> it's open for you to come illegally, right? >> yes, illegally. that's true. its on the news that ever coming

illegally. so we're doing the same. >> now, local ngos took the 101 migrants and brought them to another local church to try to help them find their way where they wanted to go. texas governor abbott says the buses will continue because he needs to bring needed relief to his border towns. the white house, the reaction very strong. here's what karine jean-pierre had to say. listen. >> it's a political stunt. that's what we're seeing from governors -- republican governors in particular. it is a cruel, inhumane way of treating people. we do our best to secure the border. we do our best to make sure that we fix a broken system that was left behind by the last administration. >> but under the last administration, the numbers weren't off the charts and unprecedented. neil, the two buses were from the del rio sector.

in the last 24 hours in just that sector, they've had 2,043 migrant encounters. finally, another governor weighing in. california governor gavin newsome has sent a letter to attorney general merrick garland asking him to investigate the legality of governors desantis and abbott bussing migrants to cities far from the border. >> neil: if were any of worried about texas handling this alone? >> i'm sorry. what was your question? >> neil: i'm sorry. were any of them expressing this alarm and worry over the plight of migrants when texas essentially and arizona as well were handling them all alone? >> well, what we heard most from the migrants is their concern about where they were going to go when they got off of this bus. they didn't know how they were getting to their destination. most of the ones here wanted to

go to new york is what we found out. they talked also about the fact that they have been pretty much led to believe that wherever they want to go, they can't come under this administration. that is a very different story than what the administration is saying, blaming it on the previous administration. neil? >> neil: as i said, going in and out of spanish with all of these, if it were me, i would have said all right. this is the best i can do. there they are. thanks very much, griff jenkins. i want to go to roy boyd, the texas sheriff. sheriff, always good to have you. this rage of expressed by those in martha's vineyard and other areas where migrants are landing, i didn't see the when guys like you were dealing with this on your own from anyone outside of texas, at least politicians outside of texas. but it does seem odd when it's in their neck of the woods. that you get this response. what do you think of it?

>> you're absolutely right. that's the genius in what governor abbott has done. on the other side of the spectrum, the liberal side wanted to pretend like nothing is going on and everything is fine and dandy. what the governor did, the governor opened this back up in to the national scene and caused them to have to react to it from a political and a public standpoint. so it just goes back to, you know, the deliberate mind of the governor and what he's done to try to bring this problem back in to the spotlight while it was being ignored. >> neil: representative hernandez representing martha's vineyard made a statement, these immigrants -- he's illegal immigrants were not met with chaos. they were met with compassion. we're a community and a nation that is stronger because of immigrants. but again, by calling them immigrants and not illegal at the face of it, that gets maybe to the core of the problem.

no one is distinguishing. a lot of these sanctuary cities, they're not distinguishing. yet they don't want those immigrants. that is what makes this kind of weird. >> well, they're all real good about embracing the theory of what they espouse, but they're not really good dealing with it from the actual perspective of seeing it on a day-to-day basis. and you know, they talk about this. the spokeswoman for the white house talks about compassion and all this stuff. but in reality, the inhumane side comes from the fact that the administration has provided a completely open border. we have turned over our responsibility of our border over to the cartels and the mexican government and they're enslaving these people. when they get off of these buses, they're not just free to go wherever they want and live their life. they still owe money to the cartels. most of these people have to go to where they were assigned and have to go in to servitude.

obviously the administration and their talking heads took a really good point from joseph garple said who even a lie becomes a trust if you tell it enough times. >> neil: i don't know that for sure. but there's an interesting point and notion that they're immigrants. i heard it from new york mayor adams and the washington mayor, the chicago mayor that this is bad treatment. again and again, they say immigrants and our welcoming nature. so if they don't recognize these migrants as anything less than illegal, and they are seeing them as illegal, there-in lies the problem. that tells you they don't see it as a problem. two million migrants trying to get in. they don't see that as an issue. they're not illegal. they're immigrants. we have to treat all immigrants equally, those that go the legal process and those in this case that don't.

that does not hint of any progress on this. >> well, there's no desire for progress. there's just desire to continue on with the problem that we have. if they wanted progress, this week when i drove all the way out from nogales through texas, i wouldn't have driven through border patrol checkpoints that were unmanned. i went over 950 miles the other day driving home from nogales and i found one checkpoint that was manned. there was one person in the checkpoint. he was waving people through because what is he going to do with a line of 1,000 cars down the highway? what is the one agent going to do? he's going to stand in his booth and flag everybody through. the border is completely open. we've seen that first hand. it continues to this day. >> neil: sheriff, it is amazing. thanks very much. again, to put this in perspective here, this country has consistently year in and year out taken in one to 1.5

million in the most recent year of legal immigrants. if you're looking at the two million plus that are getting in to this country illegally and lumping them in with just as legal immigrantses that should be treated the same, you got a serious math problem. but beyond that, you've got a serious crisis because you're more or less saying that this inflow of people coming into the country, that are just immigrants, not anything illegal about them. so do you like it when texas is dealing with this hahn its own and you don't address it or do you started worrying about it when texas is bussing the same migrants, legal immigrants to you and now you're upset about it. we're all over that and also over the long good-bye. ♪ applebee's all you can eat boneless wings. just $12.99.

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>> neil: you know, they're saying next monday's funeral for queen elizabeth ii could be the most watched global event ever. billions expected to be tuning in one way or the other, either in person or around the globe. maybe the long lines that are developing outside the queen's resting place is a sign that, well, those numbers could turn out to be the case. greg palkot has more from london. greg? >> hi, neil. it was just about a week ago at this time that we first got the news which turned this country upside-down. maybe a little bit of the world. that is the passing of queen elizabeth ii. the late queen has been lying in state in the flag-draped casket

at the houses of parliament behind us. there's been a steady stream of people paying their respects and all sorts of respectful ways. and yes, the line or cue, as it's called here, leads outside parliament, across the thames and down the river. right now it's said to be five miles long. the wait at the moment, nine hours. the mood along that cue though and we spent some time near the folks there, utterly feel good even in death. the queen is uniting folks. king charles iii took a bit of a break. his son prince william and wife, kate, met with crowds in eastern england. william confided in a member of the public said the procession brought back memories of his late mother. another dress rehearsal. this time for the huge state funeral planned for monday. the casket will be brought from

westminster hall to westminster abbey and then by procession out to windsor. that is the final resting place along with, neil, president biden and the first lady. folks are coming from all over the world in the next couple days for the funeral on monday. yes, a grand event regarded by just about everybody including, of course, the people here. back to you. >> neil: thanks, greg. we go to ukraine right now where president zelensky was involved in a car accident today. he's okay. it did remind the world what would happen if somebody happened to him. jeff paul in kyiv with more. jeff? >> yeah, neil, scary moments for ukrainian president zelensky. he just toured some damage in the new liberated city of izium when he got in the car crash. take a look at this video in kyiv.

it's really hard to tell if he suffered any sort of injuries. ukrainian officials say he had only minor injuries. the other car was taken to the ambulance. that wreck is now under investigation. the incident didn't show down president zelensky who welcomed the european union's top official. now, during his address, president zelensky referenced the need for more aid, weapons and military equipment. >> indeed, safety should be provided with air defense. i'm sure this is not a surprise for you. we all understand that air and missile defense systems are important. however, i am not sure how to solve this very quickly. i know this is a priority. >> russian president vladimir putin met with his chinese counterpart today in uzbekistan. putin thanked xi for his well-balanced approach in regards to the war in ukraine.

the chinese government later put out a statement not mentioning ukraine but saying that xi promises strong support of russia's core interests and neil, you might remember, before russia's invasion in to ukraine, the chinese got put out a statement saying that they have a friendship with russia that has "no limits." neil? >> neil: thanks, jeff paul. jeff paul in kyiv, ukraine. meantime here, we know that inflation is a very big worry. the first and top worry on the part of most americans. but we also know that abortion is moving up fast to be one. maybe because lindsey graham just made it even bigger issue after this. with directv i can get live tv and on demand together: football, housewives, football, housewives... whoops. i just want to talk! get your tv together. call 1-800-directv to save up to $120. ♪ subway's drafting 12 new subs for the all-new subway series menu the new monster has juicy steak and crispy bacon.

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about. but you might notice that abortion is still up there in the top three or four. maybe it's been resurrected again just as it was dying down by no less than lindsey graham. we have shannon bream with us right now, the anchor host of "fox news sunday." we haven't had a chance to talk since that big news. congratulations, shannon. very good to have you. >> thank you, neil. >> neil: it's interesting. abortion is a hot topic. but i wouldn't say it was fading as a topic, but less of one. the worst the inflation and economic news got. lo and behold, lindsey graham enters into this debate with a 15-week abortion ban. maybe you can tell me how that might change the equation. >> yeah, this is really interesting. neil, as you point out, inflation and economic issues tend to be at the top across the board for people looking to vote in the mid terms. we have new fox polls at 6:00. we'll see if that's the top issue.

it has been for months. abortion has crept up following the dobbs decision after the leak and the decision becoming official. democrats have made a lot of gains on this issue. they say it's helped them in special elections and they think it will help in the fall as well. so now comes two weeks out from the mid -- two months from the mid-terms. senator lindsey graham a pro life advocate and many times introduced a 20-week ban. he came forward with a 15-week ban. many republicans said that abortion should be a state issue. that's what happened when roe was overturned. so now the 15-week ban is raising questions. there's those on the right saying huh, this timing is curious. some in the republican leadership are caught off guard. i talked with folks in the pro life community that says of course, we're going to support it but we feel like the timing

could have been better. he's my exclusive guest on "fox news sunday." we'll ask them those questions and more. >> neil: no doubt you will. if he said nothing and left with it the official position that the states will beside this and some states say no, we're not going that far, and yet it seemed to be just moving in that direction. all of a sudden -- i imagine there's some republicans that say why now. why do this now? >> yeah, and gop candidates are now having to answer out in the field whether they support this after there had been an argument against sending it back to the states. you've seen them going forward and is a no, i'm pro life but i'm not going to vote for a federal ban. that's not the deal we made when we asked for roe to be overturned. this is about states. senator graham has said there's never a bad day in his might to fight on behalf of the unborn. so it's the timing i think that has us scratching our heads. >> neil: this is a dumb question but you indulged them over the

years for me. what happened to the discipline among republicans that mitch mcconnell used to inspire and insist on? you have scott going his way on hills senatorial committee push, his own idea to tax everybody that he himself has dialed back and now stamped as official republican policy. obviously the lindsey graham stuff and, you know, the back and forth on this abortion issue. they're not as tight or single messaged as they used to be. what is happening? >> you're right. in the senate especially. mitch mcconnell hoping to become majority leader again has run a disciplined house. he's very good with procedure and process. he's an expert at that. so he's done a very good job of keeping the caucus together. senate eric scott and lindsey graham are headaches that he feels like in the lead up to this huge mid-term. both senators would say listen, what i'm doing, my cause is righteous. i don't think there's a need to

apologize and asking candidates to embrace what they're doing. >> neil: it's an interesting development. shannon, look ford ward to the lindsey graham interview. injury jazzing up sundays now. appointment tv. thanks. don't forget, lindsey graham with her sunday that should be a pay per view event. you can watch it though. it easier. why wanted nancy mace's view on this, what she makes of this concern that republicans are getting kind of often message or confusing message. she's coming up.

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>> neil: all right. we told you earlier that mitch mcconnell is concerned about whether republicans have a shot at taking back the senate. he has his doubts about some of the quality candidates that you've heard. you also heard that shannon bream -- the idea of lindsey graham talking about a 15-week abortion ban after that period might have complicated that. we don't know how that would affect things in the house is anyone's guest where republicans are favored to pick up the seeds that they need to control that body. nancy mace hoping to make that herself running for re-election.

she joins us now. congress woman, good to see you. >> good to see you, too. >> neil: i raise this more in what is happening in the senate, congressman, so i apologize, but this mixed messaging that republicans are wandering off of the message itself. you know, the focus on inflation and the economy, getting distracted on donald trump and zapping time and energy from the economy and inflation. what do you make of that? >> well, inflation and the economy -- i represent a swing district, neil, where republicans are outnumbered almost two to one in this congressional district. the economy and inflation is still the number 1 issue across the board for every hard working american this year. i think when you look back at the decision to overturn roe v. wade, i think both sides were taken aback and taken by surprise by that ruling. and then we were like well, what

is next? as a republican, i'm one of the very few i think that have leaned in to this issue. this is an issue in my district. it's an issue in my state. it's an issue across the country. it's not the number 1 issue. in many districts, it's the second, third or fourth, top three to top five issue. it's something that i think we should be able to communicate with people about. there's no consensus on abortion for any reason up until this. there's no consensus for outlawing every abortion. coming up with solutions in state legislatures or in congress, finding that center middle ground, trying to find common ground is a place where we can start. it's an issue that i've been talking about extensively trying to find where we can bring people together so that both sides don't continue to use it to fund raise and use it to their advantage in campaign season. this decisions, this policy will make a difference in somebody's life. >> neil: still, lindsey graham is a south carolina senator.

you're in south carolina. would you have preferred he not get into in and what had been a view, let the states handle it? >> the overturning of row took the issue out of courts. put it in the hands of state legislatures. there's always a rule under congress. under obama, democrats could have codified roe v. wade and didn't after telling america that they would. senator graham's legislation wouldn't have an impact on the state of south carolina because south carolina's legislation and bills that have been signed into law are more restrictive. i believe that we need a message that is compassionate. showing compassion to woman and girls who have been raped, victims of incest, that we're not going to leave them behind. in states where they are banning abortion, that we ensure that every woman has access to contra

contraception. in south carolina, we have woman in rural areas that there's not a single ob-gyn doctor. so we have to think pragmatically. it's not mutually exclusive. you can protect women's life and the right to life together. that's where we have to build consensus on both sides of the aisle. >> neil: thanks, congressman. very good seeing you again. we did reach out to the come woman, andy andrews. we have yet to here back. fair and balanced. try to get to everybody. the latest is thursday night football. it's on. amazon is streaming it to your home. here's the thing though. a lot of people don't know how this whole streaming thing works. we're on it after this.

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♪ ♪ >> are you ready for thursday night football? they paid $11 billion to own thursday night football in today's game will prove it. but there is one wrinkle. a lot of people don't know what the whole streaming thing is about so older viewers might have difficulty getting in. we just need some guidance on this. with jim gray, sportscaster extraordinary. that's the wrap, right? i don't think it's fair, jim, the people my age or a singular know how to stream. we do. but the game on. obviously, amazon committee can stream fine with it so what do

you think? >> i think it's a big change for the nfl. they put the games on cable. espn it was sunday night football on espn back then. everybody, the audience eventually went with it. then they did it with fox television network back in 1994 when they left cbs and jumped over. so they have been willing to change and move with the times. that's what they are doing here. the people who are in the indigenous cities, other words get the cities in los angeles. tonight in los angeles the game is on fox local general 11. to the people in those cities will get the game. >> you've got al michaels 77 years young, he is a familiar face. he's got this very nice three year deal. so that's a recognizable face and that somebody who is going to be a comfort in the booth. how do you see all of this go going? >> it's going to look like football has everyplace else for

a long time. kirk herb street has been a great analyst on espn and he will be a terrific analyst doing the games on amazon and amazon prime. so they've got friday get ellie. he's 62 years old. he did sunday night football for a long time as their producer. he has assembled quite a crew. they will do a great job. is going to look like the nfl. like everyplace else. some people will struggle to find a pair they've told amazon that 12 and half million people will tune them but the tv networks competing against them say there will be seven or 8 million. the audience will drop off but eventually they will find. >> footballer remains hugely popular. 75 of the top 100 chosen television are professional football. it has not draw, doesn't it? >> and the ratings refuge this weekend. i mean they are up across the board. this is something new. people are not used with. you could still go to bars and get it on directv and still go to restaurants but everybody who

wants to see this game -- believe it, they are going to figure out how to find a pair they will will try to find quickly. before you know it there will be migrating more of these services as time goes on goes on. >> my teenage sons will volunteer -- no, perez here and now you are ready. we will see what happens. and you can watch it on this thing real quickly. real quickly on your device. so you know it's going to come -- ♪ ♪ >> hello, everyone, i'm dana perino along with judge jeanine piro, geraldo rivera, jesse watters, and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." liberals cities spending millions to fight the homeless crisis but the problem is it just keeps getting worse. there is heart breaking images of those living in deplorable conditions on the streets becoming all too common. as democrat leaders get accused of dumping billion