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candidates that are focusing on those issues. that is the way to win but now get engaged go out and vote don't forget to set your dvr we will see you next sunday we will see you next sunday when "the next revolution" is televised. trey: supreme court beginning a new session this week with more challenges. public okay av patrol av court has wayneed in recentwa ynyears, 25%, among those surveyed. they are also issues of trust among court members.25 and the av math of someone leaking a draft version of the dobbs opinion. leaking didn't stop oral ter
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the opinion it just reducedhe the court to the same level of tricks and gimmicks as the rest of politics. e rest of politics, you might expect members of congress to leak to reporters but not the court until now, you look at court a docket, you see cases involving free speech and immigration and voting rights, what is really on the docket is the role of the court. become something of a super ledg legislative body. you need 5 votes on the supreme court, 5 is easier than 51 or 251 or 18 or 80 million in a presidential race, why try to convince 80 million of your fellow americans when you could just get 5 lawyers to agree, it's easier. whesome have decided to do what is easy rather than
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what is right. we have another institution damaged by politics. joining us now judiciary crisis network president keri se severino. thank you for joining us, which cases will be of most significant to the viewers? >> you alluded to a few. one of the big ones has to do with racial preferences and education, affirmative action, two universities are being sued university of north carolina, a state school so governed by federal law. and then there is harvard which receives federal funds they have to comply with nondiscrimination laws, but it seems they are discriminating in their admissions in particularly to the detriment of asian mutuasian-americans and a case that has to do with
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whether a web designer can be forced to make web sites not for weddings she disagrees with on principle, she doesn't want to support. that cause. and this is sort of like masterpiece cake shop, but it will focus on free speech. and on web design area. and then there is a really important case regarding voting out of alabama and north carolina regarding voting rights as well the right of north carolina to determine for its legislator to determine what the districts are, north carolina state courts are taking over the process that the constitution gives to states legislator, how to draw their districts that is important going to november election. trey: all right, let me ask you a question that has positiveelpuzzled me, the court is suffering of a
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decrease of public approval, is it our fault, the court's fault or both. >> there is a lot of blame to go around on one side when court acts in a way that is political, rather than legal, that does decrease its standing in the eyes of american people, i think of things like obamacare case or where it teamseems that chief justice roberts switched his vote for political reasons. and i think that hurts the legitimacy, we've seen in present years a campaign of basically trying to caught down the court, so when it does act in a legal way that comes to results that maybe liberal media don't like or democrat in congress don't like they stand up and say the court is illegitimate,
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we hear this with every one of trump's appointees are somehow illegitimate on the court. that takes a drum beat, in a try to attack justice thomas, and we saw what happened with justice kavanaugh and on, this effort t to intimidate the court and hurt their representation in hopes it will make justices vote more like the liberal media would like them to do. trey: do you think that court already knows that source of a leak but they don't want to share it or do you think they don't know it and will we ever know how this historically bad leak occurred? >> i'm shocked that the court wasn't able to identify, there is a small universe of people who would have had access to that draft, i don't think they know, i think if they it we would have see seen action
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from come comments they have made in last month, seems that's don't know what the progress is on search for this person, which is really damaging, not knowing who you can trust in that building is doing a number on the court's abil ability to funk. thfunction. i wish there were more effort or pressure put on to find that leaker, he or she should be suffered the consequences, instead they are probably out somewhere getting student loans forgiven and saving a $400,000 boaps that you is wbonus. so, that is not the consequence you should get for that behavior. trey: i'm in the wrong line of work if they are giving 400,000 dollar bonuses. thank you, keri for joining us, i'll bring you back you
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trey: welcome back to "sunday night in america," hurricane ian left a devastating wake. death toll is high, this storm could wind up being among costliest ever, south carolina congresswoman nancy mace is joining us now, the images are devastating, what
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is our coast, the sof coast of south carolina like. >> charleston dodged a bullet but north of here between charleston and myrtle beach not so lucky with highest storm surge since hurricane hugo. the images are devastating after flooding sometimes comes fires, pauley's island in garden city had similar fires, we have times to clean up after hurricane ian. trey: one would think that giving aid to those impacted by national disaster would be above politics, i want you to listen to the vice president then respond. >> our lowest up communities and communities of color that are mos immuni i'm
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-- most impacted by these extreme conditions, we have to address this in a way giving resources base oar based to equity. trey: i listened to the entire clip, she prioritized women as getting paid before others, i cannot speak to california i can not say what happen there, frequently like in south carolina we'll live with men. how do you prioritize giving we women relief but not a man if they live in the same house, i was dumfounded. >> this is literally the definition of discrimination, hurricanes don't see color or political, affiliation or gender, all they see is
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destruction on the coast, that since cred eb since -- is incres incredibly racist, the fact that vice president of united states is making those kinds of comments shows a lack of leadership, everyone, should have access to hurricane funding and resources and clean up, that should happen in the country not lou the lithrough the lens of color like the vice president does. trey: how do we do it based on need, whoever need its, do it first, is there sufficient aid budgeted to fema and elsewhere to cover the losses or will congress need to appropriate more for u.s. states and territory? >> i can't imagine we won't have to appropriate more, if you look at florida alone you are talking about most eexpensive disaster in
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history, billions, we voted for continued resolution friday we spent billions overseas rather than those here at home who need it most. i can't imagine we won't need more funding for the natural disasters, i want to thank governor ron desantis, and thank governor henry mastemaster who have been on front lines leading their states through the crisis, they have done a great job. trey: i'll add my old colleague pedro, the governor of puerto rico, i cannot imagine having a island, a constituent state devastated the way that florida and puerto rico have been, and we had hugo.
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our hearts are broken over the images we see. good luck to you as you make sure people get what they need based on need. to recover from this natural disaster. >> thank you, trey. trey: yes, ma'am. >> coming up we hear words like right, left, left of center, far right, rarely does media refer to someone as hard left or far left. we tackle this question. ♪ ♪ luxury exemplified. innovation electrified. with apple music seamlessly integrated. the all-new, all-electric eqs suv from mercedes-benz.
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trey: welcome back to "sunday night in"s america," republican house members unveil their commitment to america. a.a series of legislative proposals they will campaign on between now and the mid terms, it's good to tellto people what you are for, politics often degrees to h how bad the other side is and scant attention given to what a party believes. but there are challenges foror house republicans, first ison one rooted in expectations.. managing expectations is crucial in all facets oflife life. there is. a reason we advise people to under promise ande
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overan perform. telling people what you want to achieve, what you is good, but you also have to level with the voters on the likelihood of legislativecc success.estake if the g.o.p. taking house but not senate likelihood of success is zero. if the g.o.p. taking house a senate it is slightly higher than h zero but not by much because joe n is still in the whiteri house.ca there also challenge of communicating conservatism.un conservativeics believe in bel less, less government.rnme less regulation, lessg, spending, less official government as opposed to state and local government. i s a believe in less from others and more fromyour yourself. making that argument is hard
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to do in this li political environment, tell voters what you believe and what you would do but tell them the truth. voters appreciate honesty, and they do not like to be misled, part of being p conservative means settingar the right expectations. joe biden is notroot signingis your ideas into law. u can keep bad ideas from becoming law. i have been wondering something for over 40 yearsov now. the lateer 1970s i wrote my first letter to editor.er ti was rolling newspapers in a gas station bathroom onein morning about to begin my paper route, there was at story in the paper about u.s. supreme court in that story some members weres referred to as ul trali
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conservative butbe none ultrath liberal, seems then and now that extremists, could only be on the right according to the political writers this, r week i read stories from italy with interest their new leader was called far right. and hard right. more than anything else this week. of course, she was the firstwo woman chosen to lead italy, but thatat was buried, only historic if the other side does it.f th with media really wanted you to know is she was quote hard right or far right. that had me wondering who gets to decide what is left,or right or center, to say someone is hard or fart, right, means you know whereis right. is to know where right s you have to know where the center is. so who gets to decide that?
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to many kamala harris was a far or hard left senator. but not according to media, t theyhe never refer to her thaty. way. the media tried to convincepr uses that president biden was a moderate. compared t o what? to whom? the media also told us amy coney barrett was' devoutba catholic in a bad way, but nancy pelosi and joe biden were devout catholics but in a good way. w says who?me according toas what measurement?l wrpolitical writers,? is that who we're looking to? what you read someone is far right, or hard right, maybema they are. but to knobut w that you have tn know where the center is.. who gets to define that? if i candidate or elected official is far right, why
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are liberal politicians neveanr described as far left? if you win an election in a country that tells me you must hold a solid mac majority of support, if a country supports you, can s you be hard right, it woul seem you would be squarely in middle. the truth is that "new york times" does tn 't have asm clue wha it conservatism is or conservatives believe or why, to them, erving on the right -- everything on the right is far right. and if they think that joe biden is a mod moderate, theymode have no clue wherwhe the center. is it has been 40-something years since i sat in thatri bathroomng rolling newspapers wondering why there were ultra conservative judges onn the bunch but not ultra liberal judges on the bench.
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only we can be far or hard. never the left.ss high guess i is -- my guess is we don't need a far left newspaper telling us whatep the center oorf this country. is they have not seen the center of this country sincey, s i was a kid sitting at that g gaass station. joining us now is hoover instead senior fellow victoryo davis hanson thank you. why is there never a hard left? >> you have to start with premise that left feels they are superior. using power of government to make everyone equal not on the front end of opportunity but on theo back-end. they also realize that is contrary to human nature to common n sense.
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requires force to force people that contrary to ourr constitution and what people will put up with. they don't trust democracy or trust 51%. they don't believe that their ideas on energy or inplinflation or border will ever win 51%, they go to institutions on set of globalization, the biggest money in america for last 30been years has been on the left. they have systematically added to their control off the new york time, chicago tribune, and "l.a. times" and now they control social media, they control hollywood, and k-12 and a academiaca and wall street andse corporate boardroom, they feel they don't have them th majority of support among population, their message, repelsth people, they havethey seen what happens through history from french revolution. what happens, when you try
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force people to be equal andou you use the government to do it they have confidence they can change the language and they can message and advertise and entertain and use professional sports to get that message across. they are always going to be enlightened, disinterested. empathetic and people who believe in human nature will always be selfish, right wing, that is how it is, republicans are live and live, conservativist traditionalist, saying i'mican not 360 degrees 24/7 obsess on this i have confident in l people. and theye. are like us. they kind of are commoney sense and in the end they come around. some republicans feel ud ra unyou know we would rather lose nobley than win ugly. they are -- they have
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intent, deep down they don't have confidence incons constitutional government or democracy, it would reflect the will of the people, their message does not appeal to 51% of the people.ey: trey: you know professor, i got a lot of challenges that s include direction. i struggle with lift a -- left and right, i know, if i do not know where the center sis, i don't know where left is right s who gets to decide where the center is? to know where left and right is, you have to know where t the center is. is that the same? >> you and i believe thatbe there isli an absolute value,is that there is aa center. that is centered on the constitution as we know it and was handed down. we know what the constitution, is that is thed do center. those on the right who would want to yonteru know change itw and make it you know are
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those on the left, thatth would likeat to make itnt social, we know whater the center s they norths, absolutists, they don' tt believe, they arebe relativists, you havlie seen them move, now it is normal is getting rid of the electoral college. it is why to we have two senators in each state when i they represent small s populations in idaho or wyoming? why don't we getn rid of the filibuster, bring in two states and pack the court?o because in any given day itay is i all relative and about power, they know they can't appeal to people on these issues, we get the cycle dramas, we have january 6y insurrection.he then we haven walls areosin closing in trump raid, thinth thene bombshell phantom of opera biden speech, then we splice them with jussie smollett or duke lacrosse or volleyball or covington kids, anything other than
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d dispassionately down the center look at the issues, they don't h confidence in tha t process, because who in the world believes an 8 open border will oor 8 sw% incoll inflation is not inflation, who po believes you would shut down fossil fuel energy industry when we were biggest natural gas and oil producer in the world and its benefits, they have an agenda they know won't beis popular. n unless they distract peoplehe and they one of the reasons they do it is with language.lang they don't want the center,th the centere would allow free debate on both sides they t want to move io t way to thee left. trey: victor davis hanson thanyou k you so much, we canca talk about relativism when i have you back, i think it will be the death .
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>> thank you. trey: up next will the wil economy impact the midterms as much as it is impacting you you? steve forbes joins "sunday america." um otc strength lidocaine that contours to the body to relieve pain right where it hurts. and did we mention, it really, really sticks? salonpas, it's good medicine. ♪ hisamitsu ♪ [acoustic soul music throughout] [acoustic soul music throughout] [acoustic soul music throughout]
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trey: welcome back to "sunday night in america," inflation is high, interests rates are rising, unemployment is going up uyour retirement account going down, our economy shrank for a second quarter in a row, that used to be a recession. steve forbes is form man editor in chief of forbes media how do you see the current state of the economy. >> the current state of the economy is is not good, whether we have downturn in third quarter, which ended, will be be best of a sluggish quarter, we're headed for a resoluti recession next year, the federal reserve wants to make people poor, in their wrong headed thinking is
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they believe the only way to cop cuto concur inflation is make people poorer, we're headed for tough times unnecessarily. trey: so far. the retirement accounts have been reduced. was that ever noin going to work? what was that about? >> that is what happens when you are in a bubble and you believe your own propaganda the bill with spending and taxes, big boondoggles coming down. it the hurt the economy, waste resources hurt the businesses which hurts people's employment prospects. why they call to th to the. words do not change reality, not words from the white house. trey: speaks of reality the
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fed, is it handling its business correctly? if not what should it be doing. >> i federal reserve unfortunately is not handling its business correctly, for a lmg ti a long time it over printed money 'is now creating a shortage of liquidity in the economy and the world. so, they continue to raise interest rates artificially, see what happened in mortgage market, 6.7 approaching 7% that is hitting people as the mortgages reset, most people have mortgages that reset of year, that i want to continue to keep races high to slow the economy. so, banks are discouraged from lending, bank reserves are going down. the fed is giving us worst the both worlds like in the 1970s this is stagnating economy. and rising prices. >> i want to give people the clearest picture i can. i don't want to depress them but want to tell them the
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truth, is there more pain ahead before things begin to turn? >> sadly there is more pain ahead. the country will find ways to survivor the next two years. because of the bad things that white house is doing, central banks like the fed are doe, i think resetting the -- we're setting stage for a massive come back starting with november election but in 20 24 we'll see a reaganesque like revolution with a stable dollar tax cuts and deregulation, and get the american economy moving the way it should, people are ready and raring to go they need the proper environment to flourish that administration continues to do everything possible against it. you saw the other day they rescinded 5 leases for drilling for oil in gas at a time we need merge more than ever. american people see the reality even the white house doesn't like naming bills
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ain'antiinflation what it stokes inflation. trey: steve forbes they say there is a bounce after the midterms we'll see, if so and how high, steve forbes thank you for joining us s so on a sunday night. >> thank you. trey: coming up republicans need 5 seats in house, one in senate to control both chambers of congress, history on their side but polling indicate its may be tightening press be brett baier and senator john thune them u tell us whe bipolar depression. it made me feel trapped in a fog. this is art inspired by real stories of bipolar depression. i just couldn't find my way out of it. the lows of bipolar depression can take you to a dark place. latuda could make a real difference in your symptoms. latuda was proven to significantly reduce bipolar depression symptoms. and in clinical studies, had no substantial impact on weight. this is where i want to be.
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trey: welcome back to "sunday night in america" we're less than 40 days from midterms, control of house and senate on ballot but so too is rest of president biden's presidential term, without house and senate his agenda is essentially over, elections tell us who will govern in future but they are a rif referendum a report card of the past, majority of our country thinks we're on the wrong track headed in the wrong direction. more voters trust republicans on issues like crime and the economy and inflation but those same voters trust democrats more
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on education, the environment and social issues. to be fair the president's poll numbers are up some. from where they were you about still not very good. and midterms are right around the corner. joining us now host of special report and fox news chief political correspondent bret baier thank you for being with us, are there certain house and senate races you are following more closely than others that would give the viewers kno an indication how the night might go. >> we're following a lot of races this are toss ups fox power rankings, on foxnews.com/politics. where they leap democrat or republican. or they are in yellow space on this graph, they are toss ups in the house there are 30 toss up races. the house republicans only
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have to win 20% of those to take control of house, democrats to hold on have t to win 83% of those toss ups, overwhelming thought in the expert space of looking at these races that is that republicans are in a good position in house. in the senate it is in the air with a number of races just a few points behind, in pennsylvania that is a race that we're watching in georgia. and in arizona. and wisconsin. those are you know traditionally states we watch in close elections, they are states we're watching this election. it is going to decide cell control of u.s. senate. trey: despite your ou youthful appearance you have been covering politics for a long time, why do americans seem to chose a divided
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government, they don't want one party with full control for very long that san historic trend for us. >> really, it is. midterm elections are that. the party in power in white house traditionally loses seats in the midterms, just the way we as country have developed. that the administration is trying to get things done, usually a bumpy road in the beginning. it seems like after two years of the first administration, there is a blip and we have seen this historically. you are right to say historically also that america seems to like when one party in white house and one party controls congress successful wet economy we've seen history that shows that america seems to like that check and balance of congress and the white house. we'll see if it this time, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said give me enough senator to take
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control of u.s. senate and i will in his words make joe biden the moderate he campaigned he would be that is one of the pitch lines for mitch mcconnell this time. trey: that is the perfect segue as one would imagine from someone as talented as you to my next question. if the polls are right, and economy is important to would seem g.o.p. would be poised for big gains. but on senate side it is real close, maybe trending occurred democrat control is that what you see? and are you surprised given where the economy is? >> i think two or three weeks ago i would have said 100%, trending toward democratic side by one or two seats or hole on, in last couple of week its has gone back to the mean abortion issue, while strong in democratic base politics, overturning of roe v. wade
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has seemed to kind of diminished in its import acts yimportants you youy see immigration and crime tick up. mostly the economy. you see some races that may look a couple points behind they close in final days, they don't need a big red wave, they need a rip to ripple to take control. trey: what we need is bret baier on election night. we have bret baier telling us what is going on and why, thank you for joining us on a sunday night. >> thank you, trey. trey: joining us now senate minority whip from south dakota senator john thune, history on g.o.p. side, the
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economy is not doing well, yet the projections are according to some for democrats to hold the senate, do bluff that believe that to be true? if so, why? >> i don't, trey, i think we'll win it. by the way nice to be with you, and congratulations on the show. i just think that in the end, when people fundamentals of this election year lock in and people look at these candidates, the issues will be clear, the contrast will be clear, the democrats are trying to wave shiny objects and make it about something else. in the end it is about price of food, gasoline and our energy security and the border, and what a disaster that. is and it will be people answering the question, do i feel safe in my neighborhood. in my community and country? there is a security issue. economic security, energy security. national security, i think those are issues that will
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motivate voters on election day, i think that the conventional wisdom, the you know those who pontificate about these elections right now suggest perhaps that democrats have an edge in senate but i don't think that will play out that way, i think in the end it will be are you supportive of this crazy agenda that has given you 40 year high inflation, and you know, just a wide open porous border creating all kind of security issues and crime in the cities, these are what motivate people to vote. trey: senator, when i reflect back on being around you, reasonable level-headed mature adult, you are the perfect person for me to ask about reasonable expectations. even if the house and senate were to flip to g.o.p., president biden is still in office until january of 2025. what is a realistic expectation for republican voters givin given the fact
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that democrat will be in white house even if republicans takes house and senate. >> good point. and you are getting an issue that people will be thinking out in terms of what can a congress acome bl accomplish with a democrat in the white house with a veto pen, this will force people to priortize. wildpriortize. >> we be in a better position to force him to the table, maybe forces biden to become the moderate he promised high would be in the first place, it remains to be seen, one thing i know
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this country and american people need a check and balance against a reckless extreme far left agenda, which has been promoted by this administration and their leader snip s leadership? congress, no question if my mind people will look for something that says we want to go in a different direction. they get the house and senate back. and i think more than anything else we have to stop the bleeding and stop madness and crazy spending and the you know in belief that we don't need all of the above american energy program. that makes us energy independent and focused on giving you know wealthy people tax credits for electric vehicles that the sum total of their energy program, that i think that administration and people of look for a change from this
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administration'sgenda. trey: we have got a little bit of time left. i am vaccinated as people wrestle with with whether or not to stay in public service, i think you really wrestled in any to stay in what has proven to be a save seat for you, did you wrestle whether or not to run for reelection and why do you do it. >> you know, i did it. we miss you in congress. we need i think really principled leaders people who are willing to ice commuse common sense to make good decisions, i said i feel that i have something to offer right now where our country is and world is a time we need people who are willing to step in to the arena and to the right thing no matter of consequences or circumstances. it was hard, i got you know spend 35 to 40 weeks' year in dc, i have a family and
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the kids and grand kids here in south carolina. and -- south dakota i would love to spend more time with them, but in the end ' it is about wanting to make a difference, hopefully we want to do things that purpose driven that serve causes greater than ourselves. as you point out. it is a place where it can get frustrating, i understand the frustration that american people have too as they look at washington. it is about trying to get results and solutions and making a difference. trey: the people of south dakota' you back. you won your primary overwhelmingly, senator john thune thank you for joining us. >> always good thank you, trey. trey: thank you for expinding paspending part of your sunday with us, i hope you have a great week ahead, until next week you can find us on-line or trey
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