>> sandra: heck of a rally. it's great to have you back, john. >> john: great to be back. great to see the dow going up for a change. >> sandra: thought we would mention it. be here tomorrow. i'm sandra smith. >> john: i'm john roberts. "the story" with martha starts right now. >> john and sandra, thank you. good afternoon, everybody. i'm trace gallagher in for martha maccallum. andy mccarthy, k.t. mcfarland and joe concha ahead this hour on "the story." first, 22 days out from election day. another poll is finding by a long shot that the economy is the number 1 worry for likely voters as they head to the polls. and those likely voters favor republicans overwhelmingly. moments ago, the white house saying the president is hitting the road nonstop to re-assure voters. >> the president is going to get

out there and we have said multiple times to making sure that he's talking directly to the american people about how we are delivering on our promises, delivering on how we're really taking inflation seriously. >> this past weekend, he did it hit the road with this message. watch. >> our economy is strong as hell. inflation is worldwide. worse off everywhere else than it is in the united states. >> let's bring in stephen moore, former senior economic adviser to president trump and robert wolf, former economic adviser to president obama, founder and ceo of 32 advisers and a fox news contributor. we had five minutes but we had to do the title so now we have 3 1/2. thanks for coming on. steve, to you first. you and e.j. wrote this in the "new york post." average american is losing 34 k

and everything else on biden's work. the average 401(k) hit over 35,000 at the start of the year. the assets have shrunk. the average plan down about $34,000. 24% in less than one year. in you put in inflation, credit card debt is rising and you have the president just moments ago as we heard over and over saying the economy is strong as hell. people are just baffled at that comment. now they're getting angry if you look at the comments. >> i agree. the president talks about how well the economy is doing. the jobs market is good. it's what i call a cost of living recession where people's paychecks are not keeping pace with the higher prices causing real high strain. so not only did the average family in the last year lose about $4,000 of purchasing power, something that you reporting on at fox, but what we show if you look at people's

live time savings, someone 60, 65 years old, spent their life saving up their nest egg, they have lost about 20% of it because of the terrible stock market and also the inflation. that is a big hit, too, for seniors especially. it's like you're losing a down payment on a retirement home. >> even if you're working and getting your 5% raise, you're still 3, 4% under water. you're still 40% under water in this whole thing. when the president says, yeah, the economy is strong as hell, it really is -- really seems a bit disingenuous or out of touch. >> trace, let me unpack a few things there. first of all, we know the stock market is at a point in time. if we look at the first nine months, he outperformed trump dramatically. if we look at the way steve would talk about the economy by the stock market, bill clinton and barack obama would be the

two greatest presidents ever because they had the best returns. they blew away reagan and trump. so we know the stock market is a point in time. steve is being disingenuous because it's because of raising interest rates. we've been in agreement that we should raise interest rates because we thought the fed was behind the eight curve. we know why the stock market is coming offer. i will tell you, it's not a presidential aspect to it right now. >> but they're raising interest rates because inflation is going up. they're trying to quell inflation here. >> absolutely. >> inflation is eating people alive. gas prices -- >> i agree. >> the president is not acknowledging that. that is to a lot of people that i talk to and a lot of people when you go online, it's making them angry that the president does not acknowledge they're struggling. here's some of the white house officials talking about how well they're doing on inflation. watch this. >> when the president took

office, we were at risk of a economy going to a free fall. the american rescue plan stopped that. >> we're seeing signs that our red hot economy is cooling. >> are we easing pressures? the question is unequivocally yes. >> instead of saying how great we're doing over and over again, why not come up with solutions and say listen, here's the way we're going to handle this going forward. i don't get it. your thoughts. >> i don't get how the biden economic advisers can say that we're doing everything we can to bring down gas prices, everything we can to bring down inflation. they're not cutting government spending. we're adding more. what caused the run-away inflation is the $4 trillion spent. biden just last week implementing another $500 billion plan for students loan forgiveness. it's not true what pete

buttigieg said. we were in a strong recovery from covid in the last six months of trump's presidency. we had the vaccine coming it. we should be booming, not in this stagnation kind of malaised economy. >> you look at gas prices, they're like $7. people feel that viscerally when they drive around. final thoughts on this. somebody has to say hey, yeah, i know, it's bad. we're working on it. we're trying. your thoughts. >> trace, no question inflation is hurting everyday americans. let's be clear, gas prices were coming down every day until saudi cut supply by 10%. two million barrels. we should be going after what saudi has been doing as opposed to what america is trying to do. we know inflation is running rampant. i've been the first to say that. you can ask steve. we're doing a lot of things to make that come down.

>> we can produce a lot more energy here at home. that would bring the gas price down. >> we could. listen, i have asked the same thing a thousand times. get the governor going after the refineries in california. what refinery in their right mind would try to produce more gal -- gasoline for a state that plans to get rid of it. thanks. great to see you. meantime, senator bernie sanders pressed on inflation over the weekend. watch. >> senator, do you accept the criticism that the american rescue plan passed in early 2021 contributed to the current inflation issue we're dealing with now? >> no, i don't. inflation right now is i'm sure you know, chuck, is an international problem. >> "the new york times" probing democratic spending and its impact on the mid-terms publishing this headline. democrats spent $2 trillion to safe the economy. they don't want to talk about it. let's get to our senior congressional correspondent chad

pergram live on capitol hill. good afternoon. >> trace, good afternoon. over the summer, democrats hailed their passage of the inflation reduction act but inflation is still spiking. democrats are struggling to campaign on the law despite its name. democrat michael bennett finds himself in a tougher than expected re-election contest in colorado than is resigned to the political realities of the inflation reduction act. >> the elements of the inflation reduction act won't kick in for a while? finally, we overcam pharma to have a requirement that medicare negotiate drug prices on behalf of the american people capping insulin at $35 a month. these are things that will take awhile to put in place. >> democrats know that inflation is a political albatross for their party. >> i think inflation is real. it's one of the issues that will decide how people vote in november. i will also tell you that inflation has gone down the last

few months to 2% increase. >> democrats may not see a political advantage campaigning on the inflation reduction act. republicans are sure to remind voter whose they believe drove up spending and democrats are avoiding the hallmark of their legislative agenda. >> it's tough to campaign on a bill called the inflation reduction act when we have inflation running at more than 8%. voters can see through that. they can complain. maybe the legislation didn't achieve its objectives. certainly is not reducing inflation right now. >> republicans and democrats approved trillions in covid aid during the pandemic, but democrats muscled through their own massive coronavirus bill last year along with the ira over the summer. those remain top of mind for voters. trace? >> indeed they do. chad pergram, live on the hill. thank you. republicans have an edge on democrats when it comes to the economy, right?

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the senate race in pennsylvania has focused on crime, abortion, candidate personality and health despite the fact that the economy and inflation are the top concerns for voters according to the polls. a more central focus on the economy could be coming as democrat lieutenant governor john fetterman attacks dr. oz as being out of touch with working people and oz argues inflation would be worse with democrats like fetterman in office. >> fetterman has advocated for more spending, even more of the reckless spending of our children's money than joe biden's administration has accomplished. >> does anybody else other than me with a man with worth of millions of dollars and ten mansions thinks it's okay for a person work 7.25 an hour? >> according to monmouth university polling, fetterman is trusted more than oz by pennsylvania voters on every issue including the economy. this stands out given that republican candidates are favored on the economy and

inflation nationwide. part of this could be likability. polling shows the majority of voters have an unfavorable view of dr. oz. >> what you have seen john fetterman do is try to say i'm running against washington. they created these problems and my policies will help them. if you're oz in that same senate race, i think you blame the president and his party. >> as you mentioned, trace, according to fox news polls, oz and fetterman are in a toss up. their only debate is next week. >> trace: thanks. let's bring in mike allen from axios. i want to put in these numbers from the poll. they are surprising. this is which party do you trust to do a better job in handling the economy. you can see it republicans by ten points. it's significant because you think that would play into these races. when it comes to the senate race

as bryan llenas was just telling us here, it appears that they're putting character higher maybe in some cases than the economy, right? mike, you get this sense that he's getting better grades on the economy when, you know, really it's character, they just like him better is. that a fair assessment? >> yeah, it was a smart report. the way i would say it is identity, trust a different way of saying character, which is become a break-out issue there. just to zoom out for a second. pennsylvania, one of the four true toss-up races along with nevada where you once hung your microphone, trace, and of course wisconsin and georgia. if you look at the topics in the race, if you look at what is being talked about, you'd say dr. oz was pulling away, right? what's being talked about? inflation, fetterman's health, crime. this should all be helping dr. oz. but what fetterman has done is

very smartly honed in on this identity issue. he's saying that dr. oz is from out of state, he is a weirdo, an outsider. fetterman painting himself as a legit sun of pennsylvania, worked hard to build a family there and someone who will work for the people. and the drop the mic moment, when he accused dr. oz of being a cowboy's fan when they are playing the philadelphia eagles. >> trace: listen, i get the whole thing where you build your reputation on trust and so forth. it's fair to ask if voters care about john fetterman's stroke. the atlantic wrote the following. i'm going to get your take. fetterman's neuro physiological tests might suggest he's more impaired than he seemed or the records show a complicated picture. one that would be easily

misinterpreted by lay people or misconstrued by political opponents. keeping those records is not a secret for a great candidate who has suffered a serious health setback on the campaign trail. we have not gotten any health records since june 3. it's important. you talk about character and you talk about trust. i think that plays into this. what do you think, mike? >> well, any time that a candidate is not releasing something, it's going to give some voters pause. trace, people are going to see for themselves in that debate that you just teased. people are going to believe their own lying eyes or believe their eyes what they see. so like more than in most races, that's going to really change perceptions. it's very rare that that close to game day you see them going at it. of course, early voting began in georgia. we saw senator warnock vote today. so the mid-terms have already started.

trace, a quick fun fact for your viewers. on the night of mid-terms, i'd say that pennsylvania, pennsylvania, pennsylvania. you tell me who will win pennsylvania, i will tell you who will control the senate. we very well may not know georgia that night. that could be a run-off and whether or not republicans are ahead will be a massive game changer in the momentum for that run-off. you have to turn out all your people one more time. >> you're right. pennsylvania, everybody will be looking at pennsylvania, especially the debate. it's questionable whether debates are working across the country. having an impact. this one stands too. >> i have to jump in. one of the reasons they're not working so if your candidates are doing them, it's a rarity in the cycle. you're right, this is an outlier. this is must-see tv for anyone that cares about politics. >> mike allen, good of you to come on. thank you. >> thanks for having us.

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>> trace: breaking right now, jury deliberations are underway in the trial of igor danchenko. the primary source for the

discredited steele dossier. he's facing four charges of lying to the fbi after a judge threw out a fifth charge last week. in moments andy mccarthy will respond. first to david spunt. he's live outside the federal cross in alexandria, virginia. good afternoon. >> hi, trace. good afternoon. jurors began deliberating about 1 1/2 hours ago to give you an idea where we are now. i'm not clear if anything will be finished today. i have to tell you, igor danchenko's legal team didn't put on a case showing you possibly how confident they are about how things will turn out. we'll see if that proved to be an effective strategy once the verdict does come in when it comes in. they are deliberating right now over the four counts of lying to an fbi agent. the judge removed the other count last friday over a technicality. danchenko is the man the government says was the primary

subsource for christopher steele who compiled the dossier aimed at destroying candidate trump. durham alleged that danchenko lied to an fbi agent four times when he claimed he received a call from an unidentified male from a russian who had connections to republican politics. the government says danchenko never received such a call. cell phone logs show no calls came in on danchenko's account. his attorney said you can't prove the call didn't come from an app like signal or what's app or another encrypted service. a government witness testified that bucked the government's case telling jurors that danchenko was a valuable informant adding american national security is more at risk without him. he claims danchenko helped the bureau with some 25 investigations. listen, trace, i've been saying this about a week. on paper this case is about lying to the fbi.

every day in this courtroom behind me, it was clear that john durham was looking at something much bigger meaning the fbi. he also used the term -- i know you said during the tease, andy mccarthy said the elephant in the room is the fbi and he's your next guest. john durham said the elephant in the room is the fbi. trace? >> trace: thanks, david. back to you as the news warrants. let's bring in andy mccarthy, former federal prosecutor and national review contributing editor. he's also a fox news contributor. andy, great to see you. david spunt set up the question for you. the elephant in the room, the fbi is the elephant in the room. is that the theme of this trial? >> yeah, it's almost like the trial is secondary in the chase of the trial of danchenko. what is really important and this is in terms of the public interest as much as anything else was the performance of the fbi and what the trial has laid

bear is the fact that the fbi relied on preposterous information under oath time after time after time going back to the fisa court. their own regulations as well as federal law require that information is supposed to be verified before you go to the fisa course. they don't bother to interview danchenko until they went to the fisa court. when danchenko told them in january 2017 that the information that they hadn't been able to corroborate to that point was bogus, instead of going back to the court and correcting what they said, they went back two more times and relied on the same information. >> trace: yeah, it's amazing to me, andy, because you make a very good point. but if igor danchenko walks out a free man, no conviction, you know, it appears the left is going to say see, we told you. but there's no consequences what are the consequences for the fbi? everybody that is watching this can tell, this is a black eye

for the fbi. what are the consequences down the road? >> i think what we'll have to see in the final chapter when this gets written, trace, is durham's final report. up until now he's just brought these false statements cases against a few people that came up in the investigation because they provided information to the fbi. really in terms of public interest, the important things are what did the fbi do with the information and really if you want to get down to brass tacks, was the fbi tacitly in collusion with the clinton campaign in order to smear trump as a russian asset. that's what the bottom line of what this all comes down to. i don't think we'll get the full story on that until durham does his final report. >> trace: i keep going back to the fact that the testimony that the fbi offered of christopher steele and going to offer him a million bucks to verify the dossier. wouldn't you think outside

sources verify the dossier, not the guy that wrote it? i have 15 seconds. >> what i'd say about that, trace, if it's not corroborated and you're offering to pay to get it corroborated, that's a pretty good sign that it's not verified. you shouldn't swear to it in court. >> several times. andy mccarthy, great to see you as always. thank you. >> thanks, trace. >> trace: the ominous warnings from xi jinping about taiwan as he heads towards an unprecedented third term in power. have you heard about this? and our democracy 2022 coverage continues with joe concha as former president obama lines up events in three battleground states and takes this shot at cancel culture. watch. >> having fun, you know, not being a buzzkill, right? sometimes democrats are. sometimes people just want to

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>> resolving the taiwan question is a matter that must be resolved by the chinese. we will strive for peaceful unicase with the utmost effort but we reserve the option of taking all measures necessary. >> the comments came during the opening of the communist party congress which is expected to re-elect xi to a third term. let's bring in k.t. mcfarland. great to see you. very scary times for the united states. president xi has made it very clear that he wants to go after taiwan. my question to you and it goes back seven years to when harry harris, the then commander of the pacific fleet said china is worry number 1. these islands in the south china see is a big question. the question is do we have the robust ability to do something if chi goes after taiwan? >> if he goes after it

militarily, no. the pentagon has war gamed a potential u.s.-china conflict over taiwan. we don't win that conflict. if it is issue number 1 national security threat number 1, 2, 3 and 4, we need to improve our deterrent capability in that part of the world. the interesting thing is what xi jinping said this weekend. we know it's a corr interest of theirs. when i sat down with the chinese leaders at the beginning of the trump administration and during the transition, they said taiwan is a core interest of china. in other words, no compromise, no discussion. we're going to take over taiwan at some point. it was always vague. when would it happen? how would it happen? those are details that they never got into. so it was a threat, but it wasn't an immediate threat. xi jinping is talking about it being and immediate threat. they're going to take taiwan and the clock is ticking and it's going to be during his time in office. and that's that. now, why are they doing that?

they want it for a lot of reasons. but not only sort of the national pride reason, but it's also a strategic and military advantage. the thing that you talked about with those island chains, if the chinese control taiwan, they control the western pacific. they control all trade in the world's most important maritime trade route. >> and during that speech, he said national security 18 times. it sounds like, you know, there's a push, a big push to modernize the chinese military. that also is a very bad sign for peaceful u.s. international relations. >> yeah. it couldn't come at a scarier time. i mean what is happening in europe. vladimir putin is just crossed over a line. he's targeting civilian sites in ukraine. he's escalating that war. in the middle east, iran chanting death to america and providing russia with weapons.

in the middle of this, taiwan says don't forget about us. china says we're not forgetting about you. we want to bring you under control of beijing, a lot of uncertainties. you throw in the american political environment and our upcoming elections, it become a very volatile time. any one thing could go wrong. i don't think there's a high probability of any one of these things happening. but take it all together, it's not the odds i'm worried about. it's the stakes. >> trace: i'm wondering what you think of this unprecedented third term? we had these zero covid policies. it's becoming more authoritarian by the day, k.t. >> right. yeah, xi jinping is deciding that he's declaring that he's more important than the founder of communist china. so if he has the economy under his control, the military, all foreign policy and social and

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>> trace: the debate schedule is heating up with 22 days to go until the mid-terms. tonight we'll see two main events as j.d. vance and tim ryan are set for their second debate of the campaign. in georgia, governor brian kemp and democrat stacey abrams will get the chance to make a closing argument to voters on the first day of early voting. let's bring in joe concha and

jose. they're standing by. but first to charles watson live in atlanta. charles, good afternoon. >> good afternoon, trace. georgia senator raphael warnock and his republican challengering herschel walker squared off in a debate over the weekend. while walker has been applauded by some on both sides for his performance in that debate, it hasn't been quite enough to stave off the controversies that he's had in the past. we heard from walker on nbc's today show where he pushed back on some allegations that have dogged him in the media for weeks. he denied claims that he paid for an ex-girlfriend's abortion. for the first time, walker admitted the check used to pay for the procedure was in fact signed by him. listen. >> do you know what this $700 check is for? >> i have no idea what that can be for. >> is that your signature on the check? >> it could be. doesn't matter whether it's my signature or not. >> when pressed, walker said for the first time that the check is

his. >> is this my check? >> that follows a debate performance friday that has been roundly a prouded by republicans and some on the left. he declined to show up to a second debate where warnock used walker's absence to hit him on everything from abortion to claims that walker lied about being a sheriff's deputy. walker pushed back on reports that his church moved to evict tenants during the height of the pandemic. >> this is one more example of herschel walker and his allies lying. first of all, there were no evictions. the atlanta journal constitution reported that. and my church has no direct involvement in the day-to-day operations of that apartment building. >> trace, you mentioned that the other big race here in georgia,

the gubernatorial race with brian kemp going against democratic challenger stacey abrams, those two expected to debate tonight. trace? >> we'll talk about both of those, charles. live in atlanta. thank you. let's bring in joe concha, columnist for the hill and a fox news contributor and jose aristimuno, from the democratic national committee. joe concha, every poll has republicans more trusted on the economy. listen to this georgia voter and we'll go from there. watch. >> i think people really care more about like the kitchen table issues. more about the economy. there's been discussions in my circles about abortion, but i don't think it's the thing that is going to motivate most people. it's not going to affect most people's lives. we need to be realistic about that. not everybody is going to get an abortion. everybody has a bill to pay at the end of the month. >> when you put up this poll, joe, you see here that raphael warnock leading herschel walker

by seven points. that's outs side the margin of error. what's going on? >> georgia is a struggle. some see herschel as a weaker candidates. it seeks that arizona and georgia are the new battleground states when it used to be florida and ohio. a new cbs battleground poll came out. this is why democrats won't sleep well leading up to election day. 63% of voters in key states see fuel gas prices go up. seven in ten say the biden administration is not doing enough to address inflation. 7 in ten say biden bears a great deal for the economy. democrats are still losing independents that report their personal financial situation is bad and those are whom high prices have made their lives worse and more difficult.

elections come down to independents. if democrats can't win them, the republicans will have a good night. >> and the polls are starting to catch up when you see the big signs with gas prices at $5, $6 and $7. so the polls are very important and they don't show well for democrats. your thoughts. >> sure, joe has a good point. look, let me begin by saying that historically we know that the party in power loses seats. so democrats will lose seats in both the house and maybe the senate. the question is by how much. republicans have to win two out of three key races. nevada, pennsylvania and georgia. doesn't look to good for mr. walker that he's going to win that election. if they don't win that, republicans have to win nevada or pennsylvania to be able to get a majority in the senate. democrats have a very good

chance in keeping the senate as it is. we'll lose some seats in the house. to your question about polls. polls go up and down. we know in 2016 every poll said that hillary clinton would be president. she lost. we have to take a grain of salt when it comes to looking at the polls. >> trace: i want your takes on the stacey abrams and brian kemp race. this is tight. it's 50-49 with the governor holding the lead there. you know, you have to go where there's -- the debate is still tonight. stacey abrams has said she lost this thing. it's fascinating. when the democrats don't concede a race, it's fighting for justice when the republicans don't, it's an assault on democracy. what do you think? >> stacey abrams lost her number 1 issue, voting rights. voting was higher than it ever

had been before. joe biden is polling in approval in the high 30s in georgia. that drags down her ticket. in the end, it comes down to the winning bumper. if you want lower inflation for smaller government and less spending, vote for republican. if you want violent criminals to stay behind bars, vote republican. if you believe the southern border should be secure, vote republican. i'm not sure what the democratic bumper sticker should be. jose can fill in the blank. outside of abortion, they don't have a strong message. >> trace: jose, 30 seconds. give us a bumper sticker. >> results, getting things done. this president has done more legislation, passed more things than donald trump did in four years. this guy has done it in 1 1/2 years. so we'll be fine come november. >> trace: but inflation is still high and the stock market is still low and credit card debt is rising. these were the scenes in 2020 as minneapolis became the center of the defund the police movement.

wait until you see the wild video of what happened there this weekend next.

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>> trace: mayhem on the street in indianapolis after a brawl broke out. this taken by rebecca brannon. a group of people attacking a man on the ground outside a bar punching him multiple times, even kicking him in the stomach. crowds harassed police officers on horseback as they tried to break up the chaos. look. joining me now, will cane, co host of "fox and friends" and host of the will cain podcast. that video, by the way, included assaults inside the bar, assaults outside the bar, women twerking. we talked about the police being harassed on horseback. zero respect for the police

officers in an around that area. your thoughts. >> don't forget, cursing at the horse. no one was safe from the target of assault and verbal abuse on this night in minneapolis, which is indicative of the course of minneapolis the last two years. if you talked to residents, that's what you'll hear. it's been reflected in vehicle theft, in terms of burglary. crime up 16%. there's should be no neighborhood -- i don't care where you live in america. there should be no neighborhood, no community that has to live in chaos and a culture of criminalality. everyone should expect some level of safety in their life. they say it's at 2:00 a.m. and a bar closing. how do this affect everyone's life? including people on the street. in addition to crime being up, how about this? 911 response times in

minneapolis since the riots have gone from a ten minute response time to a 17 minute response time. what can happen? who can die? what kind of crimes can take place in 17 or seven extra minutes in minutneminneapolis. >> trace: and nobody thought it could get worse than 2021. 2022, up 19.3%. that's not a bump. that's a problem. that is a massive problem. your final thoughts. >> it's the epicenter. look, the reason you point out minneapolis, it's particularly a problem as you just put it, trace. it's also symbolic of the movement in this country over a two-year time frame. the epicenter of the defund the police movement, where they chase police out of the police station and had them abandon their post and said about

discouraging anyone from going to law enforcements. here you see the stats and the decreased quality of life for anybody that lives in minute alice. it's not just a problem in minnesota. >> trace: who would go into law enforcement? it's like going to an oil refinery. who wants to do that when you have states that want to get rid of gasoline? this could be the deadliest year in the history of this country for police officers. we still have 2 1/2 months to go and could be the deadliest year. 20 seconds left for you, will. >> well, the answer to your question directly, trace, is that you're not going to want to find out who wants to go into law enforcement. you demoralize them, pay them less, put them in situations of danger, you'll have less of -- you'll have a very, very brave and principled commitment to this job or you'll have people that you really don't want policing. >> that's right. you talk to some of these police

agencies. the biggest problem with policing is that they have lost respect. when you lose respect, you know long very the power you need on the job. will cain, great to see you. >> thanks. >> trace: that's "the story" of monday, october 17. as always, "the story" goes on. join me for america's late next, fox news at night. >> the count down is on for the election. georgia on the list. is the white house taking notice? welcome. i'm charles pain in for neil cavuto. this is "your world." we have fox team coverage. peter doocy at the white house. joe biden says the economy is strong as hell despite poll numbers showing americans disagree. an