it's trump chinese leadership. >> griff: just in the seconds we have left, how is the montana beef industry feeling this? >> yeah, well, this is something i worked on hard back in 2017. we opened up the chinese market to u.s. beef. it's the second largest export market for beef in the world. we ship $1.6 billion of u.s. beef into china. and so this is a really important market. and that will be, i'm sure, one of the topics to discuss to work through the differences. >> griff: we will continue to watch it. senator danes, thank you for your time today. >> carley: thank you so much. "fox & friends" starts right now. ♪ >> lawrence: all right, saddle up, it's 6:00 a.m. on the east coast. it's wednesday, may the 7th. it means it is brian's birthday! >> ainsley: wohoo. >> brian: we're still going to focus on the news.

>> lawrence: and back to the news. three teenage it tren de aragua after this shocking daytime attack on the police in times square. border czar has a message in the sanctuary city where they ran free. >> we're going to take these public safety threats off the street with your help or without your help. >> brian: more delays expected at newark airport today as shocking reports show air traffic controller are using cold war era technology no. wonder their radar didn't work last week. >> ainsley: biological girl changing in a male locker room and the boys are being investigated and we will tell you why. "fox & friends" starts right now. >> lawrence: 133 cardinals gathering for mass at st. peter's basilica for the start of the conclave to elect a successor for pope francis. >> ainsley: the first vote is

happening later today and the next vote will direct not only the dock turn direction of the church but governance and finances a lot at stake. alex hogan is live in rome with the latest. >> yes, back in rome for another historic week as the world looks to the vatican where the conclave will begin today mass took place st. peter's basilica as you see behind me as the cardinals pray over this decision again. father ray gave the homily we are here to invoke the help of the holy spirit so that the pope elected he and the world and the church need in this moment in history. later this afternoon there will be another prayer that is going to take place before the cardinals take their oath of secrecy. talk of cardinals giving up phones and electronic devices their rooms will be swept for bugs. starting today phone signals will be deactivated in the

vatican. use signal jammers to prevent surveillance just as it did during the last conclave in 2013 it is worth noting this is going to be the largest conclave ever. there are 133 cardinals from 71 countries. it's largest representation will be from italy as you can see here followed by the u.s., brazil and france and spain. and there are some top contenders that are making some waves and they include 70-year-old petro, the secretary of state. and he is seen as a diplomatic choice. another cardinal who has been in a lot of conversations is 67-year-old louise antonio a philippine. he has been dubbed the asian pope francis. someone who could carry on the legacy of the late pontiff. because the conclave will start later on in the day today, we do only expect to see one vote.

the smoke we will wait to see will likely happen sometime after 7:00 p.m. potentially going into the 8:00 p.m. hour here local time. again, black smoke if there has not been a pope that has been chosen. white smoke if there has been a decision that has been made. so, a lot to come in the hours ahead. there are more people that are lining the streets here behind me. a crowd that will likely continue to grow on this big momentous day. back to all of you on the couch. brian, happy birthday. >> brian: thank you. i appreciate it. >> ainsley: yes. hey, alex, when it comes to the voting, if some of them don't want to be pope, do they make that known. if they really don't know each other, how do they start voting on another cardinal? >> oh, great question, ainsley. so, one thing that we did see in the last week, this was an opportunity for the cardinals from all around the world to gather and to get to know each other because 80% of them were made cardinal by pope francis.

so a lot of them, inevitably, have not met each other. this past week was a chance for them to gather for more discussions. we know they are currently having lunch. probably spending these final moments to get to know each other and figure out what the future of the catholic church might look like. and when the vote does take place, the cardinal who does eventually have two thirds of the votes will be asked do you accept the election result? in theory, of course, that potential cardinal could deny those election results. of course, that is not something that we have seen take place in a very long time. so a lot of anticipation. there has been a lot of back and forth here among italian press as to when we could see the first white smoke. if we look back at the last two conclaves, that did not happen on the first day. that happened on the second day. of course on the second day there is going to be more votes. four votes will take place tomorrow. only one will take place today. guys? >> brian: alex, do you just need

a simple majority? >> lawrence: two thirds? >> a two thirds majority. we believe i believe 89 votes out of the 133 cardinals. and, again, one thing to mention about these 100.1 some of these indications just as we have seen in the last week of these conversations of who is going to be a likely contender, very important to take all of this

with a grain of salt. because as we have seen some times in the past, these people who are making headlines potentially being the likely next pontiff are. >> brian: thank you alex. >> ainsley: thanks alex. >> brian: very rare not going an american a lot of resentment. >> lawrence: i'm fascinated with the process. different when you are saying you are going to be holy, like i'm going to be the person that leaded whole church. how do you handle that with humility? >> ainsley: you know there are politics involved. however, you are also representing the church. >> lawrence: right. >> ainsley: you need to be humble and you can't, i guess, make it known -- you have to remember like they feel like god has

lucas, what happened? >> good morning, guys, 9 indian government says it launched strikes terrorist camps in pakistan terrorist attack in kashmir killing dozens of civilians. one of the deadliest masters decades. here is president trump after learning about the strikes. >> a sham we just heard about it as we were walking in the doors of the oval. just heard about it. i guess people knew something was going to happen based on a little bit of the past. they have been fighting for a long time. you know, they have been fighting for many, many decades. and centuries, actually, if you really think about it. no, i just hope it ends very quickly. >> lucas: dispute over kashmir dates back to 1947 following the

partition of british india into india and pakistan. both countries claim the entire himalayan region for decades the area has been contested. the strikes mark the deadliest encounter between nuclear armed. both india and pakistan bitter enemies and fought civil wars the last one in 1999. the trump administration is urging both sides to de-escalate. marco rubio said in a statement, quote: i am monitoring the situation between india and pakistan closely. i echoed the president's comments earlier today that this hopefully ends quickly and engage pakistani leadership towards a peaceful solution. pakistan denied involvement in terrorist attacks that reports pakistan fired artillery into kashmir killing at least 8 people, guys. >> ainsley: all right, thank you so much, lucas. back here in the states, in new york city. there is now a manhunt for some gang members. the gang members are part of -- it's an offshoot of tren de

aragua think are called los diablos the little devils. and there were a handful of them trying to steal a pocketbook from a lady right there in times square. the peace got involved they started throwing bottles at the police officers and attacking them throwing all kinds of things looks like massive. >> brian: instead of manhunt, kid hunt. one 12-year-old at the center of the robbery ring. >> ainsley: 12-year-old is right there, brian in the white t-shirt. >> central park in guy was arrested. let him go because of new york rules when this documents minors and illegal immigrant minors. the gang is sitting there distracting. going at the cops. throwing scooters and everything else at the cops. including a basketball while tda guys are robbing women and trying to steal their purses and their wallets. >> lawrence: this is another consequence of the open border policy under joe biden. people keep saying be compassionate. be compassionate. you don't know what other cultures find accessible or not.

when you go latin american countries young people a part of this gang. they recruit them young. we showed you a report the other day of the leader of the east coast when it comes to tren de aragua. he was 20 years old. don't be shocked when you have a 12-year-old part of it as well. >> brian: what are these people -- if you are sitting there and the cops are fighting against this gang. help the cops out. why are you standing with your back against the wall. you can see who the bad guys are hopping on the back of the cop. >> some of the suspects living in migrant shelters including one who police said was living at the roosevelt hotel, many of them under the age of 18 like brian said one that is 12. those arrested right attempted assault on a peace officer and criminal possession of a weapon. several are believed to be behind a series of attacks that were part of a wave of robberies in central park last summer. >> brian: here is tom homan last

night with laura. >> this is another example of sanctuary cities not cooperating with ice. look what happened? nypd officers are attacked. if you are brazen enough to attack a armed law enforcement officer, you are much more dangerous to an unarmed civilian. we are going to look for these public safety threats and we are going to take them off the streets in new york and every other sanctuary city. every sanctuary city going to triple the workforce. flood the zone with officers. we can't arrest them in jail we will arrest them in the community. if we can't arrest them in the community we will arrest them at their worksite. triple worksite. flood the zone, take these public safety threats off the streets with or without your help. >> lawrence: have pam bondi later on in the program. ask her about this. of course we are shoring the video of new york. but these kids are all over the country. some of them are in the schools. that are part of the gangs as well. they are selling drugs as well. they have to be initiated into the gang, which includes a violent act. and one of the under reported stories were all these hotels,

especially here in new york city. remember they jacked up the price because there were charging the city to house. gut hotels because they have been damaged so severely. the effects of what happened with these open borders is going to be impacting this country for a long time. >> brian: 12-year-old arrested five separate times and say going to find these guys good, let them go again. new york city they are minors, that's why tda uses them. a distraction or to be the tip of the spear. talk about what is happening locally. finally joe biden is coming out and speaking out yesterday to the bbc. >> ainsley: he had an interview and they were asking about the decision to get out of the race. listen to this. >> should have you earlier to given a chance? >> i don't think it would have metered. we left at a time when we were -- we had a good candidate. she was fully funded.

and what happened was i had become -- what we had set out to do, no one thought we could do and become so successful on our agenda it was hard to say i'm going to start now. i meant what i said when i started i'm prepared to hand this to the next generation, transition government. but things moved so quickly that it made it difficult to walk away. >> lawrence: just listen to him. his breathing is out of control right now. he can barely complete the sentence. he is stumbling there. and i do think, to his credit, there was a plan to pass the torch that he said he was going to be transitional president. they realized kamala harris couldn't win. which is why he wasn't going to endorse her and pass the torch at first? >> brian: lawrence, if he was going to pass the torch, there would have been a primary and a

vice president like george h.w. bush even though reagan was successful he had to earn the nomination. no one anointed him. he by the way he said i meant when i started i'm prepared to hand this to the next generation things move so quickly? are you kidding me? you worked an hour a day. had you plenty of time to reflect and say this is the perfect moment to get out and finish off on four years and try to end up on a high note and fight -- what does it say that he think about kamala harris if i gave her more time she had plenty of money she still wouldn't have won? is that what she is saying? >> ainsley: he bowed out after that debate. it wasn't time was moving fast. he did such a terrible job june 27th on that debate and bowed out about a month later july 21st. kamala had 106 days to campaign and eventually raised to donald trump. she raised $1 billion during thattered pooh. not only did she get the other money. she also raised another billion dollars. she still lost. she became the first democratic presidential candidate in 20 years to lose the popular vote and the electoral vote.

>> brian: pretty amazing. very critical of president trump. he says he is appeasing vladimir putin. he says you cannot just allow him just to get land. well, what did you do? >> lawrence: you just allowed it to happen. >> brian: no himars. himars. atacms: bring in more weapons to make them successful. bleed them out that was his policy. >> lawrence: what did he say a minor incurelings that. allow a minor. that's when putin attacked. so, i don't think he should try be to quarterback now. >> brian: al three days and ride ow zelenskyy says i need weapons i don't need a ride. he is the last person to talk about ukraine. >> ainsley: i'm turning this heater off. getting warm in here, carley, are you feeling warm? >> carley: that's what brian was hoping you would say. >> ainsley: i heard him. >> lawrence: your birthday gift. >> ainsley: that's your birthday gift today. >> brian: thank you. >> carley: happy birthday,

brian. more news to get to scott bessent and jamieson greer are expected to meet with their chinese counter parts in switzerland this weekend it. will be the first set of talks since president trump's tariffs went into effect. >> what we are going to do in exercise is we have agreed to talk. and on saturday and sunday we will agree what we are going to talk about. my sense is that this will be about deescalation, not about the big trade deal. and but we have got de-escalate before we can move forward. >> carley: the trump administration says it has been in trade discussions with over 100 countries. attorney general pam bondi and fbi director kash patel is hailing unprecedented results from operation restore justice. a coast-to-coast crack down on child sex predators. the fbi has opened 250 investigations across 55 field offices. all targeting the violent online network called 764 which lures

teens on popular platforms and coerces them to engaging in violent or sexual acts. attorney general president obama attorneygeneral pam bondi will . i say never say never. i have had many things that were not doable and they ended up being doable. only doable in a very friendly way. if it's to everybody's benefit. you know, canada loves us and we love canada. >> carley: the two leaders meeting yesterday in the oval office. president trump has suggested making canada the 51st state would be a win-win for both sides. and a scary scene o at a florida press conference yesterday when the state sur attorney general garcia who fainted while speaking. >> you will have to forgive me i got sit down because -- i am not

feeling well. >> we gotcha. >> wow, florida surgeon general leaping from his steeted catch garcia while others brought her some water. officials say she was back on her feet after a couple of minutes. my goodness, hope she is okay. democratic senator john fetterman calling out a new york magazine report which quotes current and former staffers questioning his mental health. >> it was a hit piece, a one source hit piece and names sources. there is nothing new. they are actually not concerned. it's a hit piece. >> fetterman dismissing the claims from his former chief of staff who says fetterman was avoiding the regular checkups advised by his doctors not sure if he was taking his medication saying, quote: his behavior frequently suggests he is not.

and those are your headlines, guys. he has responded to that report. >> lawrence: not right. not cool. >> brian: attack your moderates while your former president tries to defend himself and while crockett loses her temper in the airport. >> lawrence: democrats only tell us the truth when they are done with the candidate. that's what happened we saw this with joe biden as well. when they are done with the person they could have told us in the middle of the campaign. >> ainsley: might not be true. he says it's a hit piece. it seems like his relationships are being damaged and a lot of his staffers are leaving. >> brian: put it this way he is suffering from i'm a moderate. he was actually going to appear with dave mccormick for his book tour but there were so many protests they stopped it because they couldn't handle the security. let's see, i like to see him sit down. also, democrats are nervous about getting too aggressive. that's a moderate seat. if you put that seat up in jeopardy. by the way if he decides to a way. it's going to be a hell of a fight for that seat. >> ainsley: i used to think he was way too progressive.

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traffic control system back in the spotlight. the "wall street journal" editorial board points out this the faa still uses floppy disks and using some systems 60 years old. the government accountability office says 76% of faa systems are unsustainable or potentially unsustainable. why hasn't this outdated technology been fixed along the way? why is it coming to fruition now. bring in retired faa control collin psychology begins. how did we get here think have been changing them piecemeal the last 20 years under something called next again. they did try back 1988 advanced system. one time was the largest nondefense contract ever issued in the government. and that one failed. it was given to ibm and laurel corporation, and they spent about six, seven years trying to revamp the entire system and at

the very end they had scott overruns 5.9 billion if they kent working would have gone up to 7 billion. ever since then with next gen., little parts. little parts of advanced automation system and i retired in 2016 now that stuff is old when i first came in we had really old stuff. it's time for stuff to be replaced. >> brian: the thing is. it should be scheduled. and should be able to go from administration to administration and shouldn't even matter who wins the election. so far if you look at the problems that we have right now in newark, the faa still relies on decades old technology. the radar system cold world war ii era. floppy disk and copper wires. 92ers 'of the budget overall is spent trying to maintain this antiquated equipment. in the meantime, they are talking about getting star link

to function as backup system if they are going to overhaul it. how long would it take to overhaul it from sea to shining sea, not just in new jersey? >> years. it would take years. it's just -- it has to be -- first of all it has to be fully funded and you are exactly correct. it doesn't matter who is in office. it should be something that is just continued throughout all the years from president to president. and it should always be trying to upgrade the system. >> brian: here is sean duffy, the transportation secretary on what it's going to take. >> >> the whole system, you know, it's going to take three or four years. again, we are talking, -- we are using copper wires, we have to go to fiber. we have to redo all of our brand new radar systems. we need new radios and sensors on tarmacs. everything, the hardware and the software have to be redundant, so it's going to take time to do that and got to core goff it. >> and the human beings, we need

air traffic controllers, how do you feel about the 45 day trauma relief for the air traffic controllers in new jersey that had the experience the trauma of what went down a couple of days ago? >> i have been involved in situation like that where we lost radar communications, it is traumatizing. especially if you know you may have a situation. in their situation where i worked, you have a little more room in that terminal environment you have a lot less room to get something done. i can imagine it was pretty traumatizing. it's there for that purpose. >> brian: i know but 45 days when you are already down. i'm just wondering how feasible that is. i look at people the at war regular basis they experience that sometimes four times a day. lastly, the "new york post" has an editorial today and says they should consider private advertising air traffic controllers. should they? >> i don't think so. it really needs to be just properly funded. and they have been trying to do

it piecemeal for years. same thing with the staffing. staffing has been an issue since the strike in 1981. >> brian: all right. thanks so much. i appreciate it. collin scoggins, thanks for expertise. >> thank you. >> brian: a real problem across the tunnel. all waiting for smoke set to rise from that chimney telling us if we have a new pope. we are live in rome right after the break. ♪

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and that is a threat and a risk for coastal louisiana. moving towards new orleans, a lot of lightning associated with these storms. and several inches of rain in a short period of time. so the flash flood risk today, again for parts of louisiana as well as coastal texas in towards mississippi and alabama. here's the rainfall still to come. two to three inches on saturated ground for new orleans. so the flooding concerns will remain over the next 24 to 48 hours. here is your forecast today. watching the gulf coast in towards florida. and the central u.s. as well where we could see scattered storms. the northeast has been a rough time for travel because we have had this cut-off low and the potential for flooding. not only through today but the rest of the workweek and maybe into the weekend as we have this area of low pressure that's going to linger and cause some travel delays as we go through friday. i will keep you up to dated. ainsley, over to you. >> ainsley: i know you will. thank you much, janice. >> janice: of course. >> ainsley: right now a live look into the vatican today

cardinals will be casting first vote to elect a successor. joining us jonathan morris and senior correspondent benjamin hall. good morning, gentlemen. >> good morning, ainsley. >> ainsley: i know both of are you catholic. benjamin, i will start with you. 20e8 us what today looks like when will the vote be and when will we probably see that smoke? >> every eye is on the chimney on the sistine chapel. one vote today we expect to see that smoke about 1:00, 1:30 eastern. people are looking two different things at the moment. they are looking at the secrecy, the tradition, that generally surrounds -- a police car going behind us at the moment. >> ainsley: we can hear it. >> the secrecy of this conclave, you know, sistine chapel, no cell phones. the tradition of what they have to talk about. the way they put the folded up paper into the challenge let. this is something that has been going on wondering which

direction the catholic church goes. many cardinals think that pope francis was too liberal. that he moved too progressive. the question now is what is the new pope? how do the other cardinals come together to pick what comes next. financial implications and we are looking at the moment no pope has been elected on the first day. tomorrow four votes keep watching that chimney on the top of the sistine chapel white smoke or black smoke when the pope is finally elected. >> ainsley: brought up a good point 80% of the cardinals were selected by the past pope and was liberal and more progressive. do they have the same type of mind frame? do they think the church needs to be heading in that direction as well? and what are the chances of a pope being very similar to the last pope in thought? >> >> yeah, great question,

ainsley, the short answer is no. those 108 of the 133 electors are not that pope francis selected himself are not necessarily in line with him. kind of social issues or political issues. of course, pope francis chose to talk a lot about the migrant. he chose to talk a lot about no borders. he chose to open up and say we should be blessing same sex couples. but then without giving a lot of nuances to that or even changing any doctrine. but, most of these cardinals that are coming from -- that he elected coming from far-flung areas of the earth are not worried about conservative or republican -- i'm sorry conservative or progressive or republican or democrat, they are just saying we live in areas in which the christian faith is persecuted, just keep in mind, ainsley, for the first 300 years of the catholic church, most of

the popes died as martyrs for the faith. and i would say the church is now swinging back to the center because people are getting back to what matters most, the proclamation of the gospel of jesus christ. >> ainsley: benjamin we are looking at possible successors the one top left preadvocacy 69 years old from the united states is anyone saying pick me i want this position? >> interesting john and this and i have been talking about this nobody goes i want to be pope this is what i will do as pope. i have these groups, for example, there are 17 cardinals from italy, 10 cardinals from the u.s. and those are quite strong groups. and, you know, some people are saying cardinals who want to become pope also have to find

the king maker the person who can bring all those votes. all those votes country ideological votes can you get all the conservative and liberal votes? fascinating to speak jonathan how this sort of lobbying has been going on behind the scenes. and it's been interesting to see that most people feel it's unlikely there will be an american pope. some feel the u.s. has so much power in the world already to have a pope in the u.s. might make it even -- give it even more sort of power. but, certainly cardinal dolan is here. and if president trump put his name behind cardinal dolan so, one thing is certain, and this is whoever you think may become pope is likely not the person who will be elected pope it is always often someone else after the negotiations take place. >> ainsley: has a pope ever been selected on day one with that first vote? >> no. but in the very beginning and ben was absolutely right when he said thousands of years. it's been 2,000 years since the

papacy has gone from one person to the next. and saint peter, of course, did not -- was not in the sistine chapel. it was not built and he passed it along. this will be the 267th, 267th pope. now, just think about that compared to the 47th president of the united states. this has been going on for a very long time. >> ainsley: very long time. yes. i heard you earlier simon who eventually became peter jesus renamed him. one of the disciples. he was buried there behind you way, way, way down underneath -- what did you call it the area in the center of the church? >> yeah. called -- right below st. peter's basilica, which we will watch over the next couple of days, if you take a lump line all the way down to the scafy, that's where his grave and his bones were actually found. >> ainsley: amazing. thank you, gentlemen. this is fascinating. we appreciate it.

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in effect at airports across our country. officials say can you still flight without one but for now you will face extra screenings and displace: karen read trial continues. she is accused of hitting then boyfriend john o'keefe with her car and speeding off. prosecutors played voice mails in court yesterday that allegedly drunk read left o'keefe to die that night. and dhs secretary kristi noem is holding a news conference in springfield, illinois this morning on the failures of the state's sanctuary policies. nome's visited comes weeks before illinois governor j.b. pritzker and other blue state governors are testifying on capitol hill on the impact of immigration policies. we will bring you that coverage. for now we will send it over to lawrence. >> lawrence: that's how you do a wall walk. >> ainsley: thank you. >> lawrence: great job, ainsley. >> ainsley: thank you. >> lawrence: a serious story in loudoun county virginia three high school students investigated for a possible title ix investigation after a biological girl who identifies as a boy secretly recorded them

asking why she was changing in the boys locker room. seth wolf is the father of one of the students under investigation and he joins us now with his attorney josh. gentlemen, thanks so much for joining the program. i'm reading a lot of the documentation here. seth, i guess the confusing part is that the biological girl is filing sexual harassment, but she was the one recording the boys in the locker room. >> yeah. that's correct. and so we're confused and trying to get some answers. >> lawrence: so tell us -- i'm sure your son was confused when he saw a biological girl. what did he tell you when he came home? >> he was confused. he was asking questions. so we're trying to find out just what's going on. and through these questions now he is under investigation.

>> lawrence: josh, i want to go to you about the legal ramifications of this. do they have any standing here? you got a biological girl in the boys locker room recording. last time i checked, it was illegal to record in the locker room, right, in the bathroom. >> well, what i can say is this. it certainly violates the loudoun county policy. whether it's a crime or not, i believe it's being investigated. this overall, the loudoun county policy certainly violates state law under governor youngkin. they continue to ignore it. also violates the recent executive order of president trump. that's a big problem for them and we're going to have to address that. >> lawrence: josh, is this the first time this has occurred in this school district? because i know the roles have been reversed where you had a biological male going into a girl's bathroom. it just seems like loudoun county is always in the news regarding these topics that parents should be hang ling. it shouldn't be litigated in the

schools. >> well, i don't know how frequently it's happening. but i can tell you this: the policy allows for it to be happening all the time. parents may never know. here, this happened to come to light and now the law center representing boys and family who vindicate them. so this could be happening all the time. that's the problem with this policy. is that we just don't know. but this is anecdotally one egregious situation that we are having to work through. >> lawrence: seth, just from the appearance of this and reading, i know it's not typical, you normally see the roles reversed. but, i guess how is your son feeling about this? i am sure he didn't expect a biological girl in the bathroom. >> yeah. i think his biggest feelings are one is that just like questioning and that he is being investigated by that this is a conversation that he was having amongst his peers. he wasn't even questioning

student or anything like that. just a conversation between his peers. and very confusing. >> lawrence: seth, how do you feel about the school district. feels like this is a reoccurring thing in this school district. i know you have other children as well. are you considering moving? >> no, we're not considering moving. we want some clarification why we're not aligned with the state and the federal guidelines. >> lawrence: loudoun county said this in a statement right here. to be absolutely clear, loudoun county public schools would not investigate or discipline students based on their personal opinion, thoughts, or beliefs. we reject any characterization that implies our schools are unsafe or that we fail to protect the rights of all students. real quickly, counselor, i got about 20 seconds. is that true?

>> well, i want to make it very clear, these boys that we are representing did absolutely nothing wrong. the most they ever did is ask why is there a girl in our locker room and they expressed concern. none of the boys ever spoke to this girl once. there is no basis for this investigation and the founding freedom law center is theme represent these families and happy to represent any child in virginia whose child is undergoing this injustice. >> lawrence: they said they want to protect all students. the biological boys should have been protected here but they are not. so why are they being investigated? >> well, that's a good question that i don't think any of us know. because this is a truly insane situation. when those who are the real victims are the ones being punished. >> lawrence: it's not right. gentlemen, thanks so much for joining the program. we are definitely going to be following this story. they need to give some clarification here for all of the parents that send their

students in to that district. seems like they are always in some sort of drama concerning this issue. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> lawrence: not just the ivy leagues being accused of dropping the ball on anti-israeli protest. the other colleges in the hot seat. that's next. ♪

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