california at all but now he's just saying you can protect federal buildings but don't make any arrests or carryout any immigration law so we will see what judge breyer ultimately says. >> martha: pretty much what president trump said about the marines who were there to protect federal buildings. thank you very much. good to see you. that is the story of this thursday, june 12th. the story goes on soy look forward to seeing you back your tomorrow at 3:00 and then i will be on the five tomorrow evening as well on a friday. there's how you can reach me on social media. have a great evening. will cain starts >> will: good afternoon and live from texas this is the will cain show. stunning new video out of california lighting up social media. soon to be dominating cable news coverage and after that washington, d.c. it is democrat senator alex

padilla of california barging into dhs secretary kristi noem's press conference this afternoon and probably escorted out, manhandled by fbi and then placed into cups -- handcuffs. >> i have questions for the secretary because of the fact -- half a dozen violent criminals ... >> on the ground. hands behind you're back. lay flat. >> other hand.

>> there is no recording allowed out here. >> he says he was in the spirit of... conducting oversight. it's a lot of ways to ask questions but interrupting a press conference doesn't seem to be the most senatorial. kristi noem says he could've called. governor gavin newsom posted if they can handcuff a united states senator for asking a question imagine what they will do to you. asking a question scenes -- seems somewhat reductive... that is a physical manifestation a literal confrontation of extremism. but in washington, d.c., today we saw rhetorical extremism when it comes to illegal immigration. there was a back-and-forth on "law & order" and democratic governors of illinois, minnesota

and new york were on capitol hill for a contentious hearing. it's all about what they are states do when it comes to illegal immigration or what they do not do with sanctuary policies. to start, talking points. here's tim walls. >> they are angry the federal government has been snatching people up, putting them in prison and deporting them without a shred of due process. there's been no notice, no meaningful opportunity to object and according to the president no way to get out of these overseas prisons once you end up there. let's be clear. >> will: due process always the talking point. it doesn't cover these sanctuary governors when it comes to crime >> do you know... >> i do not. >> you should. those are men who came into this country illegally, and murdered 12-year-old jocelyn none gary in

my home state of texas. do you think that elected officials should have welcome them into our communities? >> before they committed a crime, i'm not sure what you're asking. >> he's welcome to type of individuals into minnesota. and the governor doesn't know even what's happening. the crime when it comes to illegal immigration but the governor of new york doesn't want to know. >> the immigrants who are here, hardworking to live a life and working on our farms and taking care of our parents in nursing homes and taking care of our children, they've been coming here for 400 years and we don't keep track of individuals based on their status. we make sure that people have services so we don't end up with an unexpected... >> will: this is the extremism you now hear from democrats. they are unified.

they all sound the same and if you doubt that might be extreme i would offer you what to democrats used to sound like? what did they sound like for example in the 1990s. >> all-americans, not only in the states most heavily affected but in every place in this country are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country. our administration has moved to secure our borders more by hiring a record number of new border guards, by deporting twice as many criminal aliens as ever before. we are a nation of immigrants what we are also a nation of laws. >> will: if the words of bill clinton in 1990 were transcribed and read today that would be described as all right of authoritarian but you don't have to go back to the 90s and you don't have to rely on someone the democrats would describe as a centrist. you can move to the far left and you can move to 2015. you can hear from bernie sanders

>> i think if you take global poverty that seriously it leads you to conclusions that in the u.s. are considered out of political bounds. things like sharply raising the level of immigration we permit up to a level of open borders. >> that's a right wing proposal which says there is no united states. you are doing away with the concept of a nation-state. i don't think there's any country in the world which believes in that. >> bernie sanders opposed to open borders and talking about how unfettered the legal or even legal immigration would make americans poor. cut to today and he had jasmine crockett. >> i don't know how many hearings we're going to to have about the fact that there is been this one immigrant that kill this one person and i'm not excusing any killings but they haven't had these hearings. >> will: one immigrant kill

that one person. in this rhetorical death loop for the party, in this rhetorical escalation where every politician is in a competition on the left to say something more outlandish and more extreme but yet still remaining unified in their insanity, no one outpaces mayor of chicago brandon johnson. >> when i talked about what terrorism looks like this is it. there should be no question to what our country would look like had the confederacy one. we are seeing it on full display. there's no art form in this. >> this is terrorism, enforcing hour democratically elected laws. standing for the rule of law as a vision of what should have happened sure the confederacy of ... that is the marrow chicago, what is happening with the left. i'd love for you to walk with me.

over to the monitor. i want to show you what's happened to ideological diversity on the left. they can say they don't represent the vast majority of the left. and i would say to you are you sure? take a look at this from the british journal of social psychology from 20 to any three. this is a map that shows ideological diversity on the left and right. what you see over here, picture a dime. that represents the diversity of debate and discussion and thoughts on the left. as you move to the right in 2023 you see that dime exploded, essentially into the size of a baseball representing the number of debates, disagreements, different ideas that exist on the right where today you have to ask yourself if brandon johnson is extreme how far is he away from the mainstream of democratic thought that is something that i think tim poole played out very well

on the trigonometry podcast. you talked about the need -- the requirement of complete uniformity on the left. >> what do you think would happen if you opposed their views in a public forum. you'd be threatened with violence. the reason i say its a cult is because you could not define what they believe, it's impossible. you could not map the logic of their principles or plan for this country. if you break it down it's about adhering to the murmur ration. >> will: the murmur ration requires democrat politicians and those on the left to sound more and more like brandon johnson and less and less like bill clinton from the 1990s. on the side of the right... they have all former democrats. there are some like this tiktok user who says fine let them have their extreme insane ideological uniformity and let them have the

results in their cities. >> someone asked me if i support the protests that are going on. i do. burn down your own backyard if you must because this right here is the greatest campaign ad. >> you get the cities that you ask for. you get california, you get new york. my next guest says if the left once the cities to burn then they should let them. it is ben shapiro who is the author of an upcoming book. than you have said this and i think it is fascinating. maybe trump shouldn't send in the national guard. >> the basic idea is that democrats seem to want to let their cities fall apart and if the federal taxpayer is supposed to fix all of that and how are voters going to learn that perhaps it's a bad idea continue voting for the same people.

i lived my entire life in california. i lived in l.a. until the time that i was 35 or 36 years old and then i picked up and moved to florida. we took dozens of employees with us to tennessee because california had degraded over the course of my lifetime because of the governance of absolute trash heaps like avenue some. we are not rare. between 2019 and 2024 california had net loss in population. my only point here is not that we want citizens to suffer. we don't but the local and state policies that are being and fermented in california were voted on by the voters and they keep voting the exact same way and if it is the theory that the people deserve to get what they voted for and you actually have to let them suffer the consequences of their own bad policymaking. >> will: donald trump and pete hegseth said yesterday we saw what happened in 2020, we don't want to see cities burned

to the ground once again. we don't want to see a police jurisdiction taken over and burned to the ground but you make a fascinating point. you are bailing them out and away and you are bailing these terrible mayors and governors out of reaping the whirlwind of their own policies. lying in the bed that they've made. >> it's essentially the policing equivalent of... people suggest you should be able to deduct those high taxes. the problem is you are subsidizing all the high tax state at the expense of the low tax states and if you do the same thing and keep bailing people out then how do you expect them to learn the lesson that perhaps they should vote for a different kind of party. the democratic party is a virtue signalling ad policy party and people are fleeing the state for a reason. i understand president trump wants to enforce the laws that are on the books. he's right to do that and i understand that tim tatian that wants you have people enforcing the law you have to defend those people. with that said, it's not a

horrible strategy. let every state be what they are and you will see people vote. >> i'm sure you've heard my set up here today on what's happened to the rhetorical but ideological extremism on the left. you heard me play some sound from tim poole who i'm sure you've had your disagreements with. he said the right still has the ability to have davis smith debate charlie kirk and end with a handshake and a beer. the left doesn't seem to have that. they don't show up. if they hear something they disagree they want to cancel it and sometimes respond violently. but it's ideologically onboard. bill clinton sounds so vastly different from brandon johnson from 2025 so if the left requires that ideological cohesion but it's onboard where does it go, what is it's been into this cult of agreement.

>> you... where every cause is the same as every other cause. you hear protesters saying this. you see palestinian flags flying with mexican flags while rocks are being thrown at the police. what do all these things have in common, the only thing they have is hatred of the broader american system and that's the unifying blue that is bringing all these people together. they cannot separate from that. they will continue to lose over and over because moderate americans it's not that they abandon the democratic party that the parties abandoning them >> will: it's a great reminder that the central point and the one thing that does stay while everything spins off is an antagonism toward the american system. we will check out your new book and the program is always. thanks for being with us. all three indexes today closing in the green. and happening this hour the

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>> will: the house just voting to pass president trump's nine-point for billion-dollar rescission package. making permanent some of the spending cuts including slashing federal funding for npr, pbs and usaid.

it was a close one mostly along party lines. now the measure heads to the senate. now in about 15 minutes there will be a hearing about president trump deploying the national guard to the l.a. riots we will monitor that as it gets underway. we've been showing you the images of these protests including in texas. today governor greg abbott announced he's deploying the national guard in his state. texas will not tolerate the lawlessness we've seen in l.a. i deployed 5000 plus taxes national guard soldiers and 2000 plus dps troopers across texas to maintain order at these protests. anyone who damages property or harms a person will be arrested. don't mess with texas. joining me now is governor greg abbott of texas. great to see you here today. you saw what happened in l.a. there are promises of more protests this week as part of what they are calling the no kings protest. are you expecting that this will be needed this weekend or in the

coming days in texas? >> we know that they are going to be protest across the entire state of texas and the state is very large. what we hope will occur is what occurred earlier this week and that is there were protests without any property being damaged or anybody being hurt. people are free to protest if they don't harm anything. however, because of the possibility, because of the sides -- size of the crowds could go large, we want to make sure we have the assets and place where we are going to be able to quickly respond. it doesn't do any good to have the national guard not deployed and have a city catch on fire. crime and chaos break out and take a day or two to get them there. we will have 5000 national guard preposition to make sure that we will be able to respond immediately if crime or chaos or lawlessness does breakout.

>> we will have it ready here in texas. i know your busy governing a state. you may have had opportunity today to check in on capitol hill. you saw several of your fellow governors testifying on some of their sanctuary policies and how it's invited in illegal immigration. i'm curious your thoughts. >> i didn't see it but here's what we know. without knowing anything about what you said, i know about sanctuary policies. i know they've been a magnet that have attracted so money people here that's one thing that president trump and his team are cracking down on. we have to end the magnet act deny the ability to attract people to our country illegally, knowing there are legal ways to immigrate here. people want to choose those ways but we shouldn't entice people to come here illegally and we have to crack down. >> will: yesterday as i understand you signed a bill to

help fund research, i believe to the tune of $50 million on psychedelics including bringing ... the former governor perry has been with me the last couple of days and it's been a big issue for him as well. tell me why texas has become the place where you want to push forward research on a psychedelic that many are saying helps others get off of other addictions. >> so texas is home to more veterans than any other state. we want to help those veterans any way we can. many of them came to my office and shared their stories with me. those who tried and it made a game changing difference for those who have ptsd are it could be opioid challenges or other issues. they said that trying ipa gain completely changed our lives. we don't know if this is going to be something that will turn

into a valid legal drug but what we do know is if we don't start we will not get there so with this -- it ensures that texas will begin the pathway that will lead to clinical trials that will lead to fda approval to ensure that our veterans and other people, first responders and others who may be addicted to opioids will have a pathway to get off of those drugs and change their lives for the better. >> i've been sceptical of different medicinal remedies to all of our societal ills but this is actually something to help people get off of medicines and off of other addictions like opioids so we will be watching what happens here in texas. thank you so much for your time. >> you got it thank you. >> will: the historic 2.8 billion-dollar ncaa settlement payouts have been put on pause. female athletes sued saying they won't get their fair share and that's wrong under title ix and

this i suspect is just the beginning of a very long legal battle. we dive in.

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leasing the statement the calculation of passed damages based on an error that ignores title ix and deprives female athletes of $1.1 billion. paying out the money will be a massive error that would cause irreparable harm to women sports. this was very predictable and it's just the start. joining me now is late travis. we were just on the other day together talking about this. it took no time. the question is if football and basketball bring in 85% of the revenue why should women, of course those are men sports the revenue-generating side, why should women get 50% that's the argument a have to make in court >> is the argument there gone to be making for years and years to come and i think anybody who tells you that they know the answer to this is lying because we don't know how title ix applies to payments such as these. we don't know how it applies to payments such as the $20.5 million that schools have

the ability to directly pay athletes going forward. the reality is this. football and men's basketball, primarily football but men's basketball as well are pretty much the only sports in america at collegiate levels that make any money at all and the money that they make is then rolled back in to a large extent on money-losing sports. and title ix, particularly because football is 85 or 105 scholarships going forward, doesn't have any female representation in football and so there has to be an evenness of scholarship. does there have to be an evenness of money for this going forward, judges are going to decide and it's a mess until they do. >> right now the lawsuit is about the $2.7 billion settlement, should that be split evenly? in the future it will be about whether or not the $20 million that each school gets to spend will have to go to womb -- half-full go to women and i said

is the other day, then there will be a countersuit. i can almost can predict and expected. football players will go this is anticompetitive, we should be getting 70% of the revenue because we bring in 70% of the money. >> i think the solution ultimately is that football and men's basketball have to be treated differently than every other sport because they are revenue producing but until the courts make that determination officially we're going going to have years of uncertainty i believe about how exactly these dollars ago to be distributed. it's a mess and anybody who tells you they know is lying. >> will: the only certainties i would suggest are that college football is becoming professional football and that is an inevitability and it's no longer going to be able to subsidize nonrevenue-generating sports and if it doesn't what happens to all of those sports. do they go away? that's probably a likelihood. we will listen to it more with you.

thank you so much. >> appreciate you. >> we have a big victory for the g.o.p. last night on the baseball diamond. >> that once in there for the strike out going to do it. what a night for the g.o.p. they've done it again. >> will: republicans blowing up democrats and the congressional baseball game. final score 13-2. it's their fifth straight win and if you were watching you may have recognized that voice doing play-by-play. that was kevin corke on the mic and he's here to talk about the game. that had to have been a lot of fun in fact let's listen to you call what might have been the play of the game. it was early but it's the play by august fluker. >> rob debt third! what a player!

>> absolutely awesome baseball. i told you we would have some fun tonight. what a move there. stab, dive, done. >> will: wasn't that when the democrats were rallying to maybe threaten to even up the game? >> the bases were loaded which is why that play was so dramatic and on occasion you get a chance to see a wonderful play and you're like i get to call this one in this particular instance. great play and the g.o.p. roll from there. >> these weren't professional baseball players, it looks awesome out there. there had to have been some low lights. >> there wear. it was a great night. 30,000 tickets sold, raised $2.8 million for charities all throughout the washington metropolitan area but there were some dropped balls, some unnecessary billing and for my taste the strike zone was a little wide. shades of eric greg. but it's all in good fun.

>> i don't know if it's a low light. there congressmen and few congresswomen but it's fun and greg stu be, a great picture. >> sometimes and i know you are sports guy and former espn colleagues and we can be honest about this, sometimes it's not exactly about speed its about placement and he was really always around the edges. painting the edge of the plate and he ended up with seven strikeouts. >> will: i bet it was fun for you to get back into a low bit of sports. >> just like riding a bike. >> will: we brought you this while the video a little bit earlier. it's a democratic senator forcibly removed after barging in to kristi noem's press conference. plus we dive into the devastating economic impact l.a. businesses, small businesses because of the riots.

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everyone is talking about. democratic senator alex padilla barging into kristi noem's press conference this afternoon and making a total scene. >> sir hands up. >> i'm senator alex padilla. i have questions for the secretary. the fact of the matter is half a dozen violent criminals... >> on the ground. hands behind you're back. lay flat. other hand.

there is no recording allowed out here per fbi rates. >> will: one amend barges in and starts blurting out questions this is the rational expected response that you would get. doesn't matter that it's a senator . that's not the way you conduct oversight senator. but here's what he had to say. >> if this is how this administration responds to a senator with a question, if this is how the department of homeland security responds to a senator with a question, you can only imagine what they are doing to day labourers out in the los angeles community and throughout california and throughout the country. we will hold this administration accountable. >> will: that that wasn't a question designed to get answers, it was a stunt designed to create a scene.

governor gavin newsom expressing much of that same sentiment you just heard quoting if they can handcuff u.s. senator for asking a question imagine what they will do to you. the responses if you wanted to talk you could've asked. >> i don't even know the senator. he did not request a meeting with me or to speak with me so when i leave here i will have a conversation with him and visit to find out what his concerns were. i think everybody would agree that was inappropriate. if you wanted to have a civil discussion especially as a leader, a public official that you would reach out and try to have a conversation. >> will: she met with the senator for about 15 minutes but he expressed his concerns about ice operations and the open line of communication. seems like that could've been the way it had gone from the beginning. joining me now is former georgia senator and... thank you for being with us here today. you saw that just unfold earlier today.

you perhaps have seen the video and seen the reaction on both sides. >> this is political theatre at its worst. it's in sharp contrast to what i just saw with my former senate colleagues. i came from a meeting that with the caucus where they were trying to solve problems for the american people, talking about cutting taxes for hardworking americans and small businesses and protecting the entitlement programs for those who need it and securing our border to prevent problems like this in the first place. this political theatre is classic playbook of chuck schumer, the american people voted strongly against it november fifth and they've also said that they want this tax cut passed. they want border security mike they want opportunity for all americans and the democrats are busy fighting for illegal criminal aliens while republicans are fighting for the american people, for small businesses and hardworking americans that deserved this tax cut while democrats vote against it.

>> we've begun to hear from some of the small businesses in los angeles who have been experiencing these riots. i want to share a low bit of sound from small business owners who have suffered in l.a. >> this doesn't look like they are protesting ice. they are looting the stores and everything. they break into these stores. >> there a bad. >> we are sick and tired of it. we have no one in charge. i would go to say we have children in charge of los angeles right now. >> will: you hear the words of the small businesses in l.a. i understand you have some figures to share about how much damage has been done. >> we estimate on the ground our disaster response team at that sba at $1 billion of damage has

been done to businesses in that area where those violent riots are taking place. governor newsom has made a strategic decision at every step of this process to stand with criminal illegals instead of standing with ice, instead of standing with our brave men and women and police officers, instead of standing with small businesses. he's refused to ask for disaster declaration that would support the recovery of these small businesses you just heard from. they've been looted and vandalized and we've got to make sure that we hold governor newsom accountable and make sure his residence know he's not fighting for them. >> will: it's sad for all these small businesses but we appreciate you being with us today, thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> will: before we go yesterday we looked in on some of the groups behind these protests in l.a. i wanted to share with you this from tiktok where several people were revealing exactly who they

were and whether or not they were organic protesters. >> when i was protesting the ice deportations for the past few days besides the fact that i got paid $150 to do so per day. they would give us certain streets or targets to go to and there would be pallets of thanks that could cause destruction. >> i just got offered $200 a day to go protest ice in new york. the organization was called no kings. this is what you need to do. you need to cause chaotic disruptions. >> will: coming up elder democrats one, david hogg none. the dnc kicking out long as vice chair after he pledged to take on an effective income bends. guy from the ruthless podcast joins me next

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♪ ♪ >> will: well, welcome back. the votes are in and the vice chair is out. dnc's david hogg announcing a x he is stepping away from his role as vice chair. after 75% of the members voted to redo their vice chair election to unseat him. joining me now is the "ruthless podcast" team, josh holmes, comfortably smug, john ashbrook, and michael duncan. so fellas, i think the easiest thing to do and what would certainly be tempting is to laugh at david hogg but actually i think the party to be mocked more readily than hogg is the dnc for this young whippersnapper coming in and trying to mix it up there at the dnc. >> well, you are absolutely right, will, and this is a very serious situation, obviously, david hogg out at the dnc.

reliably report, overexposed, the hogg overexposed. people thought it was sort of -- he was too in your face, shall we say? be that as it may, younger generation, he brought a different sort of genre and they were uncomfortable with it. >> here is the thing, for one second, it was probably about a full second, the dnc was like how do we appeal to young males? but also it is against our rules to be a young male. [laughter] it's incredible. you cannot make it up. >> yeah, their problem is very obvious, will, and you know, it is not dissimilar to other situations out there like indianapolis colts are a team without a leader. they don't have a quarterback. democrats do not have a leader. they don't have a quarterback, so i am very down on their season to come. >> all i would point out, will, is the cincinnati bengals just had one of their premier defensive players not walked out of minicamp, so i would just point that out for my friend

here, john ashbrook. >> will: just for the audience, a lot of internal charts being taken as they speak. a lot of inside baseball trash talk. it was smooth but not slick. the hogg in your face. i pick up -- so to the others -- we pick up what you are putting down. >> i don't know what you're talking about, will. you expect democrats to cut off their hogg? [laughter] >> i don't know where wil's head is at, smug. we are just bantering back and forth, commentary on the day. >> will: i was thinking holmes comes in with a dainty layup and smug comes in and slams duncan in everyone's face, what he had to say. you guys have been talking about this at ruthless. the protests and riots in l.a. and this is the comeback from one of the kids facing a police skirmish line. >> as long as you feel okay --

[bleep]. what that even means. yes, i'm in college. >> yes, i'm in college. he says. but by the way, here's the question for ruthless. is that kid or the kid making the face of the young black woman trying to get to work who responds "work?" more symbolic of this protest and dry it? >> no, of course not. these people are professional protesters, will. these are grad students who for six months studied marxist theory and now they have the summer off to practice it, right? so now you are going to lecture a working person, a cop, the african american woman just trying to get to work to feed her family and you are going to lecture them about work. what -- >> the man bun was a nice touch. >> hold on a minute. as long as that lady is allowed to go to work, the oceans will continue to rise. climate change will not be

solved unless she is not able to employ herself and fund her family's needs. [laughter] >> will: it would be funny if it weren't basically the same arguments being made from capitol hill among democrats. it's not radical anymore, as we laid out at the top of the show, it is common. this is what we hear not just from those and the in seen people on your screen but elected representatives in washington, d.c. i want to throw this to you guys, there is a new study out from yelp, okay, and it was in "the new york post." best french fries, fellas, and there is a shocking result. i got french fries here from mcdonald's, chick-fil-a, shake shack, i don't know -- that's in and out, okay. here's what is shocking. you know what came in second to last? mcdonald's. everybody watching -- yeah. everybody says it's number one, you know what got number one? in and out.

>> there might be some west coast bias in that. >> the mcdonald fry especially paired with the coke, and tested. chick-fil-a my favorite situation in terms of a meal, but in the fry category also arby's, the curly fries -- >> will: got eighth, arby's. >> i might be a little selfish, will, but i'm going to play to my hometown and say the best fry in america is indianapolis' own steak 'n shake. beef tallow fries. >> will: i'm going to have this fry from shake shack. thanks for being with us. "the five." ♪ ♪ >> emily: hello, everyone, i'm emily pet companion, joey jones, jesse tarlov, jessica tarlov,jesse watters, a. it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five." ♪ ♪