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all right, good week, thank you. i'm bill o'reilly. please remember the spin stops right here are definitely looking out for you. >> the president: you didn't elect me to do what was easy. you elected know do what was right. >> we can cleanup the cesspool in washington, d.c.. >> obama isn't popular here in west virginia. i don't think he's popular anywhere in the united states. >> when these people talk about how the democrats are -- we can't balance the budget, i want to say give me a break. >> first, we have to change the people we send to washington. >> my victory will represent bringing the political process back to the people. >> we are very much afraid of the paladino administration. >> in september, the american
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economy shed 95,000 jobs, unemployment rate is 9.6%. if the white house thinks it can take attention away from those numbers, they are kidding themselves. >> sean: with just 18 days before the midterm elections, democrats are bracing strategies to save themselves before judgment day. according to their official news outlet "the new york times" they are adopting the strategy of triage trying to save any seats they can. david axelrod continues to pound home the dnc's baseless attack on karl rove, ed gillespie and the chamber of commerce. claiming the former bush officials and the chamber are using foreign money to influence the upcoming elects. axelrod has requested the chamber disclose all donors. this is ironic in a request coming from a man who worked in the obama campaign in 2008, which refused to take
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elementary measures to prevent fraudulent donations. it chose not to use basic scrutiny measures to prevent illegal or anonymous contributions. what this administration fears most is that like in the last gubernatorial elections in new jersey and virginia voters will send the democrats packing. my next guest did that. his first month at governor of virginia he turned the state's two billion dollar budget shortfall into a 220 million dollar surplus. if i were a democrat, i would be scared too. joining us bob mcdonnell is back. how do you make that kind of change economically in such a short period of time? >> well, the first thing we did is reject the two billion dollar tax increase that my predecessor left me. we said families are struggling, businesses are struggling. we've got to set priorities and cut spending. we look at the national debt,
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13 trillion going into 1.5 trillion a year we know that's not the direction for prosperity for the american free enter price system. we cut billions in spending back to 2006 levels. hiring freeze, reformed our retirement system and ended the year with a 400 million surplus. it is the right track, fiscal conservatives work. >> sean: i agree. i'm very concerned about our kids' future. i want you to go into detail. i'm arguing that if the republicans take back congress and they get the purse streupblgss their task is going to be very difficult. -- pursestrings, that their fasting is going to be difficult. how do you implement a hiring freeze and have pension reform when you are dealing with unions? >> it is all about tough choices.
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i've got a democratic senate republican house after discussion everybody realized we had serious long term structural problems in our budget. we had great uncertainty created by washington. and here in virginia. if we did not reduce spending we were gonna force either major tax increase proposals in the future or losing jobs and opportunities for our citizens. the only way we could get there was collective bipartisan effort to cut spending. we cut health care, education, we cut some things that were off limits in the past that were core services but it was right. when you cut spending you force people at all levels to do things smarter. we started a government reform commission. we've adopted 90 ideas through this commission from privatization to hiring freezes to consolidating boards and commissions to getting rid of things that are outdated. all of those save money. that's what this new
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republican congress that i hope will be in place, needs to do. make tough choices realize you got to set priorities in the end it is good for business and better opportunities for our people. >> sean: john boehner is talking about cutting spending back to 2008 levels. do you think it is possible they can go to 2006 levels nationally? >> with all the entitlement programs that have been created over the years, i think that's tough in the short run. if they don't balance the budget within the next few years, we are going to be a debtor nation for a while to come. it is very unfortunate. 13 trillion, $42,000 for every american family. that's why i think the republicans will win this time. everybody realizes an immoral long term debt on our kids and grandkids. we've got to make the tough choices. we can't have government guarantee outcome, we guarantee opportunity.
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i think it is incumbent, if the republicans win, their mandate will be reduce spending, be more innovative. don't try to be everything you can be. don't mandate things on the states like new unfunded mandates for medicaid through this obamacare bill. don't try to take over the banks and gm and student loan industry and health care. let the markets work better and competition will create more quality for less prices. the republicans deliver on those basic issues they will be successful. >> sean: anybody that follows the federal budget knows, i talk about earmarks, relatively speaking, it is insignificant in terms of the percentage of the federal budget. the real dollars are in entitlements. we just adopted a new entitlement, which is why i think obamacare needs to be repealed. when the republicans took over in '94, when they proposed
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reducing the rate of growth of medicare to 7% a year, every year for seven years, democrats demonized as trying to grandma on the street. if they try to tackle entitlement reform it is going to be republicans want grandma on the street eating dog food. how would you advice them to prepare for that inevitable battle? >> because it is not accurate. i've never seen a time as we cut about six billion dollars out of the last three year's budgets that people were more receptive in understanding the need to cut back when you've got one of the worst economic situations in modern history. when you have the major sacrifices that families and businesses are making. they know you've got to do that with government too. that's a bad argument. they need to stick to their principle and realize without cutbacks we have long term fiscal problems for our kids.
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>> sean: it is a great success story and great model for a lot of states. hopefully the federal government to follow. thanks for being with us. >> great to be back, thanks. >> sean: one former general has harsh words for politicians to rumsfeld, al gore even senator mccain. >> first the tea party movement has influenced races across the country. one, former house majority leader dick armey is coming up. could switching to geico really save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance? does a former drill sergeant make a terrible therapist? patient: and that's why yellow makes me sad. i think. sarge: that's interesting. you know what makes me sad?
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>> sean: we are in the final stretch before the midterm elections and the of the tea party movement are being felt across the country in numerous races. dick armey is right in the middle of it. his new book is in stores now. i sat down with him to talk about what this election means for the future of this great country. good to see you. >> nice to see you. >> sean: do you miss congress? >> not the least bit. >> sean: you have a profound impact. right in the heart of everything going on in the tea party in this country. it looks like we are really witnessing a conservative ascendancy, bottom up, where people are going to take the country back. >> it is exciting to watch. these folks have up all over the country. it is the most natural authentic grass roots movement i've seen. and they really love this country.
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the emotion that has brought them out is fear. they are afraid of what these folks in washington are going to do to their country. >> sean: in many ways it is inspiring. what do you make of almost every case when there's been a tea party candidate against an establishment candidate, christine o'donnell, joe miller, rand paul, we can run through the list, the he party candidate wins. >> and the establishment -- establishment candidate is the candidate that goes rogue and decides i'm going to run as a third-party candidate. which is what the establishment complained about the tea party they would be third-party candidates destroying our chances to win. we have a republican nomination won the primary fair and square and the establishment candidate that lost it, -- >> sean: i call it the sore
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loser syndrome, murkowski, crist another one in florida. i think you are right. i can think back over the years when people i would support conservatives that would lose. you gotta, you know, you know get out -- i'm like okay. in most cases that i can think of, i can't think of one that didn't go this way. the conservative would end up supporting the person that won. >> absolutely. >> sean: i'm surprised there hasn't been more criticism of this. >> again, because the tea party activists across the country keep their eye on the ball. they are up to what they think they need to do to reclaim this government, make it responsible for america and to america. and they don't have time for the petty political bickering, because policy what is compelling them. >> sean: i'm a conservative first and a republican second. you can register in new york as a conservative, which i'm registered as a conservative. when these guys get to washington they are on
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probation. i think a lot of people became disinfranchised because republicans lost their conservative values. you agree? >> i do. >> sean: you think they are on probation? >> i do. the most important day now has become the 3rd of november. how we're going to work with you to keep you focused on the straight and narrow? how we are going to remind you along the way? plus, the tea party activists are looking at the senate races saying we only had a shot at a third we got another third the next one. let's start looking at who we want to give a correction course to. >> sean: it will be interesting to watch. i think people need to manage expectations. this is a two election cycle. best case scenario republicans take the house and senate and they want to repeal health care, they will be successful, barack obama will veto that bill. if they want to extend the tax
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cuts they have some parliamentary maneuvers where they could hold up, you know the president, if he doesn't go along. so they have a little more power in that area, right? what can they do? >> here's the big thing, president obama is not going to go to center ground like clinton did. >> sean: i don't think he will either. >> if he's cut off at the legislative pass he's going to the regulatory agency route. he said if i can't get cap and trade legislatively, i'm going to get it through the epa. if a new republican majority doesn't learn and practice with great rigor, congressional over site part of their duties and do it effectively, obama is going to leave them in the dust again. >> sean: the problem is, every -- i guess scheme that they've come up with, has led us to the point where we are looking at a transformative election.
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>> yes. >> sean: i assume bill clinton and others are going to advise him, work with the republicans. try and balance the budget. try and rein in spending. i think he's a radical i'd log -- i'd log. i've been saying that from the beginning. i don't think he has clinton in him. if the republicans pass a balanced budget or a budget that is fiscally responsible. the president won't sign it. what do they have at their disposal, what weapons? >> they have to do the best they can. i think they still have the capacity to show the discipline of completing, for example the budgetary spending bills, 13 appropriations bills on time. if the president doesn't sign that's one thing but they will show the nation they've done their duty. >> sean: then they will be making their case that is going to be a two election
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cycle. they will need the white house back to accomplish the goal of going back to our first principles, constitutional government and our founding declaration. >> right. we across the nation will be setting our cap on who the most appropriate small government conservative presidential nominee. >> sean: who do you like so far? >> there are a lot of people to like. >> sean: give me a few. >> mitch daniels from indiana. mike pence from indiana jim demint from south carolina. >> sean: did you notice they orchestrate add attack on demint this week? >> they always attack what they fear. demint sets the standard for small government conservatism in the senate is probably going to have eight new senators that are going to share his perspective and be willing to do the work. >> sean: it is going to drive the leadership nuts. >> absolutely. >> sean: if they don't
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understand the mood of the country itj is time for new leadership. >> absolutely right. >> sean: i think we it settles. dick armey great job with freedom works appreciate you being with us. >> my pleasure. >> sean: sarah palin relates to americans across the country a new book explains the four things that have shaped sarah palin into the leader she today. we will explain what they are i'm done with airline credit cards promising 25,000 miles a flight only to be told... there's nothing for 25.
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. >> sean: sarah palin became a household name after the trait presidential election. a new book is examining the role faith plays in her life and how it is shaping her political future. there are four things that have impacted sarah palin from an early age. the first, palin's family life had a profound effect on her. the second, the state of alaska has helped shape the
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way she sees the world. the third, palin's outlook on life has been impacted by the eskimo culture in particular how they view women. and finally, palin was shaped by the belief that her life has a purpose. joining me the author of the book stephen mannsfield. you've had a number of best selling books, george bush, you looked at his faith. barack obama's faith, et cetera. why do you find that so interesting? >> because, if a leader is sincere about their faith, the faith is one of the most important things about them. it will shape their public policy, their conduct in office. don't we wish we'd known more about some folks' faith before they got in office. >> sean: black liberation theology. >> almost 50% of americans are not sure about what barack obama believes, even though i wrote a book on it. i'm saying, i think faith is
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important. we shouldn't be ashamed talking about it. first amendment shouldn't keep us away from it. it is important in connection to politics. >> sean: point number one, that palin's life in alaska and her family had a profound impact. she was stacking wood at a young age. she sat where you are and told me a story she went hunting before school and her father handed her moose eyeballs. >> yeah. >> sean: that would have had a profound impact on me. >> it sounds like we are trying to turn here into lincoln but she was born in 1964, the year the beatles showed up in america. you are right she chopped wood to heat the family home. they went hunting for moose to feed the family because they were school teachers in alaska trying to get by. she had as much of a frontier existence as you could have at that time and it profoundly shaped her. >> sean: that is the rugged spirit of alaska, you grow up, fish, hunt, you don't depend
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on the government for much and you take care of your family and you got rugged conditions. >> also the culture of the home. when the tv finally showed up in the heath home, that was her maiden name. the father put it in an unheated room so they would have to chop wood in order to watch tv. books were the primary thing, radio, family reading to each other. there are unusual things about that family. at night whoever washed the dishes listened to the rest of them sing while they washed the dishes. that sounds like little house on the prairie but that was what was going on. >> sean: were you able to do this book by interviewing everybody around her, correct? >> we had an opportunity to sit with the parents, the pastors, fascinating experience. >> sean: what about the eskimo culture? >> i'm partially native american myself so this
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fascinates me. in eskimo culture there's this tradition of women who are supernaturally gifted to provide wisdom for the tribe. this is part of that's know culture she would have absorbed. she married to a eskimo the idea of a woman being a leader, having wisdom for the tribe. this was part of her culture. women in leadership, out in the forefront making decisions for the society. this was not from the feminist movement. she got from it her alaskan culture. >> sean: we both like rick warren's book. she discovered early on and her faith taught her she has a purpose. i believe we are endowed by our creator, whether or not president obama remembers the words or not, just a side note. and every person, every human soul has special gifts. your job in life or part of your role in life is to find out what they are anfo bring them to fruition. >> you can't understand sarah palin unless you understand this idea.
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when we were doing the research on this book we encountered a man who is one of the heroes of the story. he was her youth pastor. he used to teach you have a destiny. everybody is made for a purpose. and he said, somebody, this is when sarah palin was a teenager. some of you will be called to political leadership. when he said that, something went off inside of her. a side story, when she had been chosen by mccain to be the vice president candidate and was making the famous speech in minneapolis, the day of, her mother called the old youth pastor and said whatever they say this is about, whatever they attribute the success to. we know it came from your ministry. >> sean: interesting back story. so much was made of the video released of people praying on her. i was raised a catholic. i spent a lot of years in the south. i really -- it opened my eyes in terms of baptist, an stem
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bring of god, church of christ, all these different denominations. i had a profound respect for them even though i was raised differently. maybe for some people that have not seen that before, that became a controversy. >> it looks odd. it looks elmer beganryish. they are laying hands on her -- on her praying for her to be successful to be protected from spiritual powers. i was put on the internet by the pastor who came later in her life and was unwised and later apologized. >> sean: there's a lot made recently the president went to church. there have been so many questions raised about the polls that show many americans think he might be a muslim. we know he was in jeremiah wright's church where they believe in black liberation theology. i have a real problem with barack obama's ex-pastor, america's chickens have come
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home to raouft, all that what is the differences -- home to route, all that. what is the differences? >> barack obama is a very liberal theological christian of the kind that believes there are equal paths to god. sarah palin pentecostal background believes jesus is the only way to god. she pwaoefts in the bible strictly -- believes in the bible strictly interpreted. barack obama he theological liberal, broad. that's got a lot of people thinking barack obama is a muslim because he's so broad it is sometimes hard to . >> sean: thank you for being here. -- >> >> sean: general shelton is here with his new book he talks about his relationship with president bush and bill clinton and differences between the two leaders. [ female announcer ] during endless shrimp at red lobster,
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>> sean: general shelton served as chairman of the joint chiefs of staff from october '97 until september 2001. he worked close presidents clinton and george w. bush. in his new book without hesitation, he draws sharp contrast between the two men from their partying habits to their wartime leadership. he does not hold back when it comes to criticizing them or top members of their administrations. joining me is the man himself the outspoken general hugh shelton. thank you for being here. had you an accident. you fell off a ladder, you almost refused medical help. your wife god bless her wanted to take out to hospital, what happened? >> i was trimming a tree after 450 parachute jumps my feet instead of being 24 feet in the air only five feet off the
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ground and hit the wrong way. bad parachute landing fall. >> sean: were you told you might not walk again. >> totally paralyzed the initial doctor said you will never walk again. you will be lucky to use your hands to the degree you can manipulate a wheelchair. walter reed went to work on me and 83 days later, i worked out unassisted. >> sean: they are some of the most amazing people i've ever met and what they do for these kids, these soldiers, and their struggles is inspiring. you know, what i found most amazing about the book, i don't think a lot of people were paying attention to this, osama bin laden was a hot topic lodge before 9/11. -- topic long before 9/11. everyone was frustrated he would elude us none more than president clinton. >> without a doubt. we started a long time before 9/11 trying to track this guy
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down and capture or kill him. from my perspective based on the terrible things hedon killing was probably the right answer. >> sean: i wrote about this in my book, why did we pass on the sudan's offer multiple times they offered us bin laden on a silver platter? >> i'm not familiar with those incidents. >> sean: bill clinton admitted it in a speech in long island. you were never aware of it, i believe you. >> you do a lot of contrasting, you find them very different but in many ways similar, highly intelligent you say about both. although you felt clinton came off better if the media. >> they are both great individuals, i feel like president clinton is as smooth as can be and deals with the media well. i felt president bush took unfair criticism for his appearances before the media on occasion.
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both very intelligent. both can sort through the issues. identify the high risk areas almost immediately. two great individuals to work for, both of them. >> sean: interesting considering the two so different politically and philosophically. clinton would rarely attend security meetings w george bush would be there early. clinton would be there late or sent sandy berger. >> two styles. one relied on his chief of staff and then bring him a recommendation, multiple options super the staff. the other sat there and helped you make the sausage, so to speak. >> sean: you leave some of your strongest criticism for rumsfeld. the mcnamara rumsfeld model, based on deception, deceit, trying to get the joint chiefs to support an action that might not be right for the country. no it all bully is a term i think you used. at one point you say he was
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doing what was in the best political standpoint for the president. you are accusing him under the surface of being willing to put young men and women in harm's way and jeopardy because of politics? >> not necessarily for politics. i think any time that you don't listen to your principle military adviser or advisers in the case of a combative command working directly for the secretary. if you are not at least hearing them out and following their advice i think you could potentially put men and women in harm's way. using a force not large enough to you get the job done exposes those that are trying to get the job done. >> sean: wasn't that what we waited the president did for a long time on the requests of mcchrystal. he wanted 40,000, he only got 30, it took months to get. i was shocked it took so long. >> i think a lot of us were. i wasn't there so i can't tell what contributed to the length of that. but it was quite a period of
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time between stan's request and the time we started the infusion of the additional troops. >> sean: seem if the troops on the ground, the generals on the ground say i need 40,000 troops or risk failure, there's the words that were given to the president to wait months and not give the full request, i found that stunning. >> to be candid it would move to the top of my agenda right away if i'm hearing that. that says we have men and women in harm's way. and the man on the ground commanding says i don't have enough troops. there are other things to consider. the president has to consider political, diplomatic, economic, and he has to coordinate with our allies in this case the nato operation. you got to coordinate actions through nato. it is complicated and it takes longer than just an american decision. >> sean: you took on a number of other power players in washington. the most amusing was how you referred to al gore as stooping to an egotistical
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power play when he burst into a meeting in the oval office that you were having with president clinton. you weren't that impressed with al gore? >> i liked vice president gore. but in this case, general clark made a decision to move the troops back on the -- from the lines. i told the president that the day before. before all that could be carried out, we had this in the heat of combat we had three troops that move out in the wrong direction when they hear fire and get captured. >> sean: the other person i was surprised at your comments considering his lengthy service, years as prisoner of war, senator mccain. you referred to him, you were convinced he had a screw loose. you were worried about the possibility someone as unstable as mccain might end up being in the commander in chief. you really think he's unstable? i've been around him a lot. i know -- maybe in the years past have a temper, unstable? >> i think in years past he
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was a lot more, he had a lot more tend fly often handle. i was incredible. we've got it on tape. >> sean: i hate to think what my wife has on tape. >> mine as well. it seems like the least little thing would set him off and he would skyrocket into the ceiling. >> sean: it is your view, your book. >> exactly. >> sean: we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> sean: it is an honor to have you. >> thank you. >> sean: our great, great american panel, straight ahead. gecko: are you ready for your talk, sir? boss: just going over how geico helps people save in even more ways... ...with good driver discounts, multi-car discounts, defensive driver discounts... woman: you! oh, don't act like you don't recognize me! toledo, '03? gecko: no, it's...i... woman: it's too late stanley.
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>> sean: tonight on our panel. republican congressional candidate if new york's 19th district, nan hayworth is here. he was bill deputy campaign manager, jacques degraff is here. former mayor of providence hosts his own radio program the buddy cianci show, vincent buddy cianci is back. guys good to see you. you live how far from barney frank's district. ? >> next district you can throw a stone. >> sean: do you know him? >> i met him a few times.
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our radio beam goes into his area. he spends most of his time in washington, until recently. >> sean: it is a radio show he could pick up the phone. >> he could. he's got trouble going on up there, especially with this recent -- >> sean: the allegation is, he gets a jet ride to the virgin islands from a rich guy whose got a 200 million dollars federal bailout and he stayed at his home. his answer is i'm supposed to have friends who are wealthy? no you are not supposed to have friends -- >> you could have rich friends. the only problem is their wealth and money can't end up in your pocket. >> these were bad decisions made and congressional democrats voted for him on the
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basis of relationships like this, we don't need that type of friend. >> sean: isn't that the type of cronyism, the american people are fed up with you. this guy is the beneficiary of your vote in congress, you get on his jet, go to his multi-million dollar house. people are saying wait a minute we are pulling our belt tight, isn't this all washington out of touch? >> it is the beltway madness. but it is not a democratic disease. it is a complacency disease. we've seen it over and over again. people understand the principle but they say i'm the exception. i'm so special that rule ought not to apply to me. >> sean: this is barney frank. >> he's tone-deaf on this7'ó. >> i think he's got real trouble this time because that issue is resonating at home in his district. he's always been kind of like
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a guy who has been teflon up there. he's had all kinds of accusation against him. the people like very liberal district. right now i think he's got serious trouble and i can see it. >> sean: do you think barney frank can lose? >> anybody can lose under the right circumstances. do you think because of the atmosphere? scott brown won in massachusetts. that feeling is there. that whole northeast, maybe the tsunami is not going to happen in the northeast or west coast. but the tsunami is going to happen the tea party movement and all the republican effort. democrats have stopped funding racism -- races in the midwest. >> sean: this is such a volatile year, all bets are over. >> part of the problem is this, whether he gets reelected or not it affects the body politic. democrats in other places get -- >> sean: charlie rangel is your church in his district?
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>> my church is in his district. and he is a friend. you can see -- >> sean: you are struggling now. >> he had to convince people in his district after the allegations were made. he did not get a free pass. >> sean: are you supporting him for reelection? the former chairman of the house, ways and means committee writes tack law. he didn't pay his taxes, he gets four rent stabilized apartments in new york. you don't think that's arrogant? >> no. i happen to know the facts. >> sean: isn't it against the law to have four? >> combined apartments are not unusual. >> sean: wait a minute, four apartments and $650,000, i just forgot the income at my dominican republic villa -- >> charlie certainly has made mistakes. >> sean: mistakes. >> do you think barney frank stayed at rangel's house in
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the dominican republic? >> sean: why do i think if it was me if i forgot to pay taxes on $650,000 and i wasn't obeying the law i might be walked out of don imus' and neil cavuto's studio with handcuffs on. >> this is why our voters are furious in district 19. this is why it is toxic to be a friend of frank's and rangel's today. >> optics are so wrong in that. mansions and he claims to be the man for the working person. the guy who is going to help everybody. he was going to bail everybody out of their house, foreclosures. >> sean: we saw this in massachusetts, virginia, the president is losing independents in every poll. a quarter of democrats want obamacare repealed, big number. now kids don't like him. think about it. he has lost 16% -- down 16
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points from last year percentage of young people which was a big part of his base in that last election. >> you live by the internet and you die by the internet. he rallied, these kids went crazy now they are disappointed, their parents' houses are being foreclosed on, no jobs. from a tactical standpoint when obama was starting his campaign those kids were all with him, during the primary season they were home, working. now that this presidential or this midterm election started, he was running the government, going around campaigning, but he wasn't activating the kids -- >> sean: what you're saying is promises you make on the campaign now he's got a record. what he's reading off his teleprompter is not as impactful. people are hearing the bs, you know, and the slogans and the platitudes. >> change takes time. it takes hard work and sacrifice but it also takes
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time. despite his legislative accomplishments the change that -- >> sean: he said we would have shovel-ready jobs, now he has no idea they exist. >> he's had resistance and -- >> sean: it is republicans' fault. >> i'm saying he inherited a historic situation. >> sean: he's got every bill he wanted passed, every one! >> he's had resistance. >> sean: how about his policies failed? how about socialism is a failure! >> democracy is not. we will see in the next couple of weeks what the people have to say about this. at the end of the day presidents in his situation historically have won the next reelection -- >> sean: if emad rates. i have seen nothing but radical tendencies in obama has i look over his career. >> you didn't say radical, did you? >> sean: extraordinarily radical. more with our panel, straight ahead. >> so, ah, your seat good?
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>> sean: we continue with our great american panel. sticking with the theme that government is corrupt. south in south dakota, you have democrats -- [ laughing ] >> there are some people in government who have made mistakes. >> sean: your friend charlie rangel is one. >> he's not again proven guilty of anything. >> sean: he has four rent controlled appears, it is against the law. >> in this country allegations are not convictions. >> sean: why did the democrats strip him of his chairmanship? >> he stepped down. >> sean: he was forced to step down. >> government is not corrupt. >> sean: i'm going to take my foot off your back and i'll tell you why. because i admire loyalty.
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i'm a very loyal guy. you are being extraordinarily loyal. >> because charlie rangel has been loyal to the american public. >> sean: stop, now you have really lost it. democrats in south dakota holding three early vote rallies on reservations featuring thieves for potential voters. does that sound like they are influencing people's votes with food? >> it is certainly food for thought. the democrats are ememploying a variety of tools as they have in years past. moveon has reared its head in our district. they tried to hold a rally in front of our headquarters, their organizer it is on video on youtube their organizer actually started physically assaulting our -- what kind of
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tactics are these? >> sean: can i take him to the black pearl in newport and offer everybody clam chowder? >> if i had to give back every chicken dinner that i ever bought for people who bought tickets to a fundraiser, we serve chicken or gave it away -- >> sean: that's different. >> democrats are guilty of feeding people is that the charge? >> sean: these are early vote rallies, they are bringing people in and feeding them. why don't we give away a cadillac. a trip for two to rangel's villa. >> they've done this on reservations. that's one of the things that is bothering a lot of the people about the way they do it. they get 95% of the vote, by buying a chicken dinner.
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>> sean: jacques if you want to persuade me to vote for you if you run for office, i want to go either to the black pearl or -- [ talking over each other ] >> what same saying is this, in all of the issues that you have on the table today, now to say the democrats are bribing indians with chickens. >> sean: i didn't say chickens. >> i said chickens. [ talking over each other ] >> you gotta give them something. >> can anybody be bought? >> why are republicans worried? >> sean: answer to your question is, if you don't have a lot of money, you might be able to. not only that, what's going on in terms of persuading people to vote and -- >> the gore/bush election conference phone call, president clinton was on it and the -- [ talking over each other ] >> i was just listening they were having a conference call and the mayor of detroit said,
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we're gonna be all set, he said because i the bands. they go vote, they got a great band, they get stamped if they vote they can come to the concert. [ talking over each other ] >> people in this country asked constitutional questions and were barred from voting or discouraged from voting by people who were officials of the government. you don't want to talk about that. >> sean: we have a bigger issue too. in both new york and in illinois, we have the issue of disinfranchising our military voters. new york was supposed to have this done by mid september. they asked for an extension they got an october 1st, extension. in many counties still have not sent out military ballots. usually their a 45 day turn around. it is now happening in two states where our brave men and women putting their lives on
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the line for us, their votes may not count. what can we do to rectify that? >> i hope those ballots are going out immediately. >> sean: too late. if it out tomorrow, it should have been out in mid september. >> there is nothing more disgusting. >> they have to figure out now get them back. >> i think that is absolutely -- >> sean: unconscionable. here's the problem i would argue and i know a lot of guys in the military they are more likely to vote republican. any conspiracy there? >> i don't know there's a conspiracy. anything that fails to deprive any american anywhere of the right to vote is morally wrong, should be illegal. and we ought to all condemn it, both parties. >> good answer. >> sean: have you ever been to charlie's rent controlled apartment? you hate me right now. >> which one? >> sean: have you been to any of the four? did you ever go to the dominican republic vi