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the latest headlines with after the latest headlines with polly middlehurst . after the latest headlines with polly middlehurst. nana thank you and good evening to you . the you and good evening to you. the top story tonight on gb news the prime minister is travelling to northern ireland this evening amidst speculation that a deal could be close over the northern ireland protocol . rishi sunak ireland protocol. rishi sunak made the journey with northern ireland secretary chris heaton—harris to hold talks with all political parties , the uk all political parties, the uk and the eu have been in intense talks to secure improvements to the post—brexit trade deal. now expectations growing that new terms be set out in the next few days. terms be set out in the next few days . details right here, tv days. details right here, tv news . sir keir starmer has made news. sir keir starmer has made a surprise visit to ukraine to meet with presidents zelenskyy, the labour leader, pledging that support for kyiv will continue if his party comes to power. sir keir also visited the cities of buka and pepin where he was
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shown evidence of alleged atrocities committed by russian troops during trip, he called for russia to face justice in the hague . throughout the the hague. throughout the conflict, the labour party has stood united with the government in the united kingdom to show support for ukraine and we will have an election next year and may well be a change of government. but should there be a change of government next year in a general election there be no change in the position of support for ukraine, both during the conflict in the course . the conflict and in the course. justice the royal college of nursing says it's going to reduce england's services to absolute minimum when new strike action takes place next. and that includes any departments . that includes any departments. more than 120 nhs employers will be affected on march the first, with staff walking out for 48 hours. previous strikes lasted for just 12 hours, while the new
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strikes will also staff working previously in exempted departments, including in emergency, as we just said and intensive care. the health secretary, steve barclay, is calling the action a significant escalation , but says the escalation, but says the government is working with nhs england on contingency plans. now lancashire police has referred itself the police watchdog, over contact they had with nicola bully and her husband paul ansell to her disappearance. the force says it was called to nicola's home on january the 10th, 17 days before she went missing . it comes after she went missing. it comes after yesterday, detective boss unexpectedly revealed that the 45 year old was vulnerable and that she'd struggled with and the menopause earlier. ms. police family. the menopause earlier. ms. police family . the public focus police family. the public focus seemed more now to be about appalling into her private life than actually finding . than actually finding. scotland's health. secretary is reportedly expected enter the
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race to become next leader of the scottish national party . the the scottish national party. the daily record says humza yousaf will throw his hat into the ring after nicholas sturgeon stepped down as first minister. the snp's executive committee is meeting this evening to draw up a timetable for a leadership race of a possible replacements include deputy first minister john swinney and finance kate forbes . you up to date on tv, forbes. you up to date on tv, onune forbes. you up to date on tv, online and dab plus radio. this is gb news the people's channel sitting in for laurence fox tonight with . tonight with. get off me and it is fast approaching 6 minutes after 8:00. this is a gb news on tv, onune 8:00. this is a gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm not a quitter . online and on digital radio. i'm not a quitter. i like to online and on digital radio. i'm not a quitter . i like to call not a quitter. i like to call this fun hoist by our own petard
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. well, who knew would seal her own fate .7 my mother can't stand own fate.7 my mother can't stand . i just stand. that woman in my . it was all over for nicola the moment she attempted to use the trans community as a pawn in her game of independence with a gender recognition reform bill. she would have known full well that it was a ludicrous proposition to afford those as young as 16. the opportunity simply change gender without any medical supervision or need for gender dysphoria diagnosis. i suspect she is expecting westminster to intervene . then westminster to intervene. then she could say, look at the dreaded westminster interfering in scottish politics. i mean, there is the argument perhaps she felt affinity towards the trans community and was trying to help by opening the door every tom, dick and harry to abuse the system like rapist adam graham. he committed rape as a man. that the only way rape can legally be recognised. adam the rapist then decided to
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change gender, which meant he was then taken to a woman's prison under under the new name isla bryson, which preposterous. nicholas sturgeon had previously branded anyone who dared suggest such abuse and advantage of the system would take place as misogynistic homophobic and racist. her critics included author and self—made j.k. rowling . i mean, things went rowling. i mean, things went from bad to worse for nicola. i mean, during the first minister's questions on february the second, she refused four times to say whether she that bryson was a woman, despite her previous stance on self—identifying . this week, the self—identifying. this week, the justice secretary, keith , was justice secretary, keith, was asked if that rapist should now be considered a woman. this is what keith brown said . i think what keith brown said. i think thatis what keith brown said. i think that is the case. we have to accept people identify as in this case, as women. does the first minister agree with her just the secretary. first
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minister, i think that rapist should be considered a rapist . should be considered a rapist. hmm. other snp ministers have referred to bryson as she and four days later nicola also did the same, referring to bryson as her before backtracking and changing her answer to the person. nicola was, shall we say, not her usual confident self. i i can't remember. i'll take your word for it. name slip. i'm trying not to say. whilst i deplore the crimes bryson committed, i'm thankful that his behaviour demonstrated to even nicola's ardent supporters just how ridic this gender reform bill was. the double rapist attacks certainly shone a spotlight on the nonsense practise of allowing biological men into women's prisons. should clearly be stopped immediately. prisons. should clearly be stopped immediately . and the stopped immediately. and the safety of the female inmates first. it is safe to say nicola was correct that there are many who will be rejoicing that she is no longer post and decided to
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walk before she was put in a previous monologue. two weeks ago, my exact words were nicholas sturgeon was bitten off more than she can see. i don't want to say i told you so, but i told you so. well, it's rishi sunak and his snake like charming manner, politely. nicola out of office. donald however, did not mince his words. in a statement said, good riddance to failed woke extremist nicolas sturgeon of scotland. this leftist symbolise . this. everything wrong with identity politics, he added . the identity politics, he added. the wonderful people of scotland . wonderful people of scotland. are much better off without sturgeon in office. we've missed you, donald. i told my mother all i could get was laughter at the other end of the phone. perhaps now scotland can focus on internal politics rather than one trick pony. nicholas sturgeon its dogged obsession with independence . and perhaps with independence. and perhaps now can . the united kingdom. now we can. the united kingdom. it is fair to say that nicholas sturgeon was hoist by our own petard . goodbye, first minister
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petard. goodbye, first minister . well, of course it's been reported today that the snp will to quietly drop the proposed legal action against westminster's decision to block the controversial gender act. amidst nicola resignation. although sturgeon denied short term pressures for the cause of her resignation , it's clear that her resignation, it's clear that her resignation, it's clear that her name forever be associated with . putting female identifying with. putting female identifying male rapists in women's prisons . so it looks like the bill will fail. but should we be pleased? joining me to debate this are the commentators james melville and also sam .james, i'm going and also sam. james, i'm going to start you. you're in favour of scottish , but you don't of scottish, but you don't support the. is that correct to say . that's correct. it's say. that's correct. it's somewhat confusing. i mean i consider long term partner independence. but i think increasingly concerned by some of the policies picked on by nicholas sturgeon on the s&p government , especially over the
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government, especially over the last three years. i think there's a sort of juxtaposition with sturgeon where she freedom for scotland , but she's taking for scotland, but she's taking away a lot of freedoms for scots right now. it's not just this particular policy which is undermined women's rights, but it's also things the hate speech bill and also a lot of the draconian measures with the covid era lockdowns. so i think she's running out of gas in history. taught us a number of things about politics. one of which is you have a leader which is when you have a leader that goes some eight or that goes beyond some eight or nine they to find nine years, they tend to find something that becomes their undoing. they happen to play out in iraq. it happened with thatcher, poll tax and thatcher, the poll tax and effectively this is is now effectively this is what is now happened to nicholas sturgeon do you mean, it more to you think? i mean, is it more to do fact that she do with fact that what she proposed was somewhat ludicrous, although doesn't although some down it doesn't seem so. come seem to think so. come on. sanders that's ridiculous. not no any of medical of no need any sort of medical of gender dysphoria before being given the all clear to just change gender at 16. well i mean i'm the opposite's your guess i'm the opposite's your guess i'm not i'm not a fan of
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nicholas sturgeon. i'm a fan of independence either. but i but i do. but i do think, you know, that was there was some merit in in a gender recognition bill. i mean, the same bill has been passed in spain either today or maybe yesterday, brings maybe yesterday, which brings the amount of people the total amount of people living under under the same living under this under the same rules, up to about 400 million, with problems. so i so i don't think really is bill, that's the problem. i think is nicholas sturgeon delivery . i think it's sturgeon delivery. i think it's i think it's the fact of its timing. i mean , you know, lgbtq timing. i mean, you know, lgbtq people are living in a time of great peril. i'm actually going to sydney for sydney. well, pride next week and you know we saw this week with brianna that i'm getting the death of the trans girl the murder of the trans girl the murder of the trans girl the murder of the trans girl that get it the rhetoric, the toxic has the highest peaks that ever has in the past. and people are in real dangen the past. and people are in real danger. and i think it's not sort of stopping you that with regard to the obviously the murder of the girl was trapped. we don't know whether we don't
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know. the full details of this with the life thing at the moment. we don't know whether moment. so we don't know whether it's with it's actually connected with that trans so i just that person. trans so i just wanted make sorry it was very wanted to make sorry it was very so up until i'm like she's very stop for being trans at school to remove from school for you know for her protection and of course yeah , this is a this is course yeah, this is a this is an ongoing case. so i mean, we can't say one way or the other. i agree with you. but we can all agree that toxic around agree that the toxic around around trans the trans around the trans the trans issues around around trans issues and around around trans has reached a horrific level. and we and we have to we have to reverse it and we have to stop it. and none of us none of us are no, we have been on the same show talking about the fact that it's predatory. who are the problem, not trans women . but problem, not trans women. but that was that was the problem with you've exactly with the bill. so you've exactly the problem with the bill predatory men who we don't know whether be trans not trans we simply don't but the bill opened the door for these kind of people . james yeah , i agree. and people. james yeah, i agree. and it's, you know , you know, i want
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it's, you know, you know, i want equality as much as the next person. i hate any form of discrimination, but part of this was removed from the debate and the consultation exercise is the opinions . women right opinions. women right across scotland on sturgeon. i agree with a point that was made about sturgeon. sell this properly . sturgeon. sell this properly. she got and she got in a pickle over this and didn't communicate it properly and actually actually now nicola sturgeon's got our faults , but she has been got our faults, but she has been pretty good over the years at communicating and messaging scottish people. that's why she keeps winning elections. but on this failed she this one she failed because she didn't concerns in didn't listen. the concerns in terms of of the concerns terms of some of the concerns were going on regarding women's rights we're going to rights on this. we're going to have about in the have a debate how about in the road listen to all concerns. road and listen to all concerns. the sturgeon came that . the sturgeon came across that. she wasn't listening in terms of the concerns of women. also the concerns of women. and also it looked like was playing games to and get one over to try and get one over westminster well. well that westminster as well. well that that's how it did come across too here as well. but i mean, i'm to come back to some i'm going to come back to some point this sort of thing point that this sort of thing was wasn't was made. it really wasn't needed.i was made. it really wasn't needed . i mean, would you say
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needed. i mean, would you say it's wise to allow somebody to simply just change gender just like that, when especially you've seen the case of the person who proved quite clearly the shortcomings of the reform bill? again. yeah, i mean , this bill? again. yeah, i mean, this is a trans woman. i think she's just you know, she's a friend of mine. he's for he's looking for some sort of way to get a better dealin some sort of way to get a better deal in prison. yeah, but that's the problem with the bill. allows people like that to do that. yeah. for people like that can that anyway. mean you, can do that anyway. i mean you, you don't need gender you don't need a gender recognition gets close to recognition stuff gets close to the toilet in scotland or in the uk. that gender uk. it seems like that gender certificate is simply for people like rihanna, for example , going like rihanna, for example, going to as a boy when she's to be buried as a boy when she's a so, i mean, like , there a girl. so, i mean, like, there were there were were obviously there were obviously bill, obviously problems in the bill, but to remember that it but we have to remember that it was debated for hours and the longest debated scottish longest debated bill in scottish history, it's still history, and then it's still passed . so passed with an passed. so passed with an overwhelming majority. and this was nicola's . but was and this was nicola's. but going back to your point, whether whether by whether whether she's hoist by
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our that is possibly our efforts on that is possibly the because it's just like the case because it's just like that's the state of the state of politics, especially around the trans moment is that trans at the moment is that it's toxic and i she dove into toxic and i think she dove into it for reasons for reasons unknown whether it's whether she genuinely believed this was the right at the right right thing to do at the right time or not. i think, again, that she has said that this was it wasn't anything to do with that. resignation. we just that. her resignation. we just we don't know. am i'm i'm we just don't know. i am i'm i'm afraid unions. so i'm not i'm not going to about nicola. not going to cry about nicola. i'm well, i mean, she's absolutely impotent, but why was she james, you said that she's great and she's done great things. her record in scotland has been pretty deplorable. let's be honest. the biggest focus been on independence. focus has been on independence. i would say, would you not say that she's failed on many levels, not just not just the gender recognition reform bill. yeah, i'm not saying she's great. i think there's been a lot i think there's been a lot of failures. think me to separate out the independence argument from the recent record
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of the governments . i mean, of the snp governments. i mean, if you look at standards in terms of crime rates, in terms of education, in terms health. scott, scotland has been sliding because yes, she has been focussed a lot on playing politics to try and manoeuvre another referendum . i actually another referendum. i actually agree there should be another but a primary focus should be on the scottish people and the welfare of the scottish people and to the legislation that that has a broad consensus amongst scottish people and at the same time improving on things like crime, health education, infrastructure and so on and on. that measure of late , she has that measure of late, she has failed . she has, and she was she failed. she has, and she was she looked pretty weak as well. who do you see as a successor , do you see as a successor, james? well person i would like is angus robertson . i no longer is angus robertson. i no longer so bit i think he's professional. i think he's balanced. he reaches out to broader consensus is very good at playing the picture given he's experienced you know he took his time at westminster he's now at holyrood. he has experience politician and i
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think he can bridge what is quite a divided nation right now, especially the now, especially of the independence and independence debate. and what they who is a less they need is who is a less divisive . sturgeon was they need is who is a less diprofessional . sturgeon was they need is who is a less diprofessional , . sturgeon was they need is who is a less diprofessional , a . sturgeon was they need is who is a less diprofessional , a muchgeon was they need is who is a less diprofessional , a much greaters a professional, a much greater winning elections, but of late she was going down alleyway years of policy that was not in with the majority of the scottish people. i think angus robertson would professionalism point of view and an ability to reach out to wider communities in scotland and brexit. i think angus would be the perfect person and finally to some then do you think that this is the end of the bill that do you think it will disappear? do you think it will disappear? do you think it will disappear? do you think it needs to come back in other form ? bills, the bills the other form? bills, the bills the bills already been passed in scotland is to do whether it's to see whether going to it's obviously not going to come down to the rest of the rest of the uk. that's that's not going to happen. but i'm know as far as has access i mean bring back ruth i mean ruth davidson i say i mean i think she's fabulous. i'd like you to jump points and take the helm. i don't think she'll
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helm. yeah, i don't think she'll come. got quite come. i think she's got quite a well—paid job on some real estate last time estate and that's the last time i this is some let i heard this is some time. let me talk you. thank you very me talk to you. thank you very much. and also james very good to talk to you. so, james, melvyn, a tv news on tv melvyn, this is a tv news on tv onune melvyn, this is a tv news on tv online digital radio online and on digital radio coming up. inflation continues to hit of the worst of to hit worst of the worst of the. we'll be looking into the cost as new research cost childcare as new research has shocking figures. cost childcare as new research has asked shocking figures. cost childcare as new research has asked you;hocking figures. cost childcare as new research has asked you how ing figures. cost childcare as new research has asked you how expensive ., cost childcare as new research has asked you how expensive you we asked you how expensive you thought costs were. thought childcare costs were. i think reached . it's think they were reached. it's set in 2020 and the results are in. 14% of you said tha t £5,000, in. 14% of you said that £5,000, 45, as you said, in. 14% of you said that £5,000, 45, as you said , £10,000. and 45, as you said, £10,000. and 40% of you said 15,000 panels. but which one of you were right? all of that after . but which one of you were right? all of that after. break coming up , dan wootton tonight as the up, dan wootton tonight as the dust settles on nicola sturgeon's bombshell resignation, has the scottish dream evaporated and will her removal signal end of polarising nationalist politics? plus, as he turns his former master jeremy corbyn is keir starmer
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being honest when he says labour is no longer party of the hard left and desperate testing against illegal migrants really make you racist and far right. joins sarah vine. kelvin mackenzie and more of britain's top commentators on dan wootton tonight 9 pm. to 11 pm. on.
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gb news. good afternoon , this is good good afternoon, this is good evening and i'll say you see afternoons. this is gb news on tv online and the digital radio. i'm not that clear. it's just coming up 24 minutes after 8:00 this evening . we asked you if this evening. we asked you if you thought that jk rowling was the cause sturgeon's downfall on twitter. and i want you to use a set of sturgeon called own downfall and anti british woke harridan . another said j.k. jk harridan. another said j.k. jk
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rowling didn't have to do anything. sturgeon did it to herself. robyn says rowling another medal? yeah scotland is in her debt , another medal? yeah scotland is in her debt, meghan says. j.k. is the best. keep sending your views, please. activities at gb news. .uk now, according to new research, nine in ten early years children's services , years children's services, nursery schools and childminders will be hiking their already extortionate fees. now i know because i have a five year old who went to all the know all the sort of early years stuff. it is absolutely extortionate. so expensive. the early years alliance has revealed that coupled with the cost of living, crisis and lack of government funding, services will funding, childcare services will need to increase their fees by an extra thousand pounds or closure. so for those of you who answered apple earlier , the answered apple earlier, the group of 40% who answer £15,000 were correct . that is the were correct. that is the average cost of childcare currently sits at 14,000 and many are expect is expected to
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reach 15,000 this year with the extra thousand pounds. parents are afraid that they're going to have to quit their jobs because cost of childcare basically outweighs their need for the full time salary. now they still seem like madness. so here to , seem like madness. so here to, discuss this with me is journalist hilary freeman and ceo the early years alliance ceo of the early years alliance who conducted the research neil light's said that right now, hilary , gonna start with you. hilary, gonna start with you. you haven't said, how do i say it? neil talked about like i just say , let's look at least just say, let's look at least the thing sticks and you bloodsucker. thank you. hilary, what do you think? hilary, you're working, mum. yeah. jo, i hear you had your child at 44. is that right ? hear you had your child at 44. is that right? that's hear you had your child at 44. is that right ? that's correct, is that right? that's correct, yes. i'm going to beat you. i mine at 46. you're fat. yes. i'm going to beat you. i mine at 46. you're fat . yeah. mine at 46. you're fat. yeah. no, the second one. second one. so it's like that? yeah. so expense it, isn't it? it's ridiculous. i'll you. about what your astronomical . absolutely your astronomical. absolutely astronomical. the cost . and i astronomical. the cost. and i remember i was paying 1200
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pounds a month for four days a week and this was so would have been about four years ago and you know i was pretty much all of my income after it's after you know tax so it was pretty much pointless working. i worked mainly because i wanted to work and. i felt it was better for me and. i felt it was better for me and also better for my daughter to be at nursery other children than sitting at home with me. but yeah, it's unaffordable now, i'm guessing. i mean, do you have partner who can help to that cost or. because i was a single mum still i'm single mum . did, did do you have somebody that to help you with that cost . yeah. i mean i did , i did have . yeah. i mean i did, i did have a partner and he was at the time, but you know, he is not a high earner and you know, my income was we've we rely on having two incomes. so the fact that my entire income was was going on childcare meant that it was a real struggle . you know, was a real struggle. you know, we ended up having to. yes we
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ended up having to get lost cause on child tax credit to help us because were we were not adding enough to pay for childcare, which was a ridiculous situation, which meant that we were you know, i was paying tax on my own while i was paying tax on my own while i was earning and then i was getting money back from hmrc to pay getting money back from hmrc to pay for childcare . so, you know pay for childcare. so, you know , the system is ridiculous. was this thing nonsensical that you're not going to be putting money into the economy through tax so you don't work , but yet tax so you don't work, but yet you're going to be subsidised to not work so you can pay? it doesn't make sense talk to doesn't make sense neal talk to me some of things you me about some of the things you found research. it's found with your research. it's this nonsensical. no, no, this reality . the earlier is this nonsensical. no, no, this reality. the earlier is this is inadequately funded . so, you inadequately funded. so, you know, it should be expensive . know, it should be expensive. have to say that because it should be high quality. but the reality is that it's parents that are picking up the tab . it that are picking up the tab. it should be government and government have shortchanged the early sector . it's early years sector. so it's
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inevitable have to increase inevitable that have to increase our prices i mean you've seen just to give this some context we've seen something like nearly five and a half thousand close their doors in the last 12 months record closures. we are heartbroken isolation we represent thousand nurseries, preschools and childminders across england , but we're also across england, but we're also an operator ourselves . so we're an operator ourselves. so we're not in it for money. we're a charitable organisation. we operate 60 settings in areas of deprivation this time, four years ago we operated 132. we have closed half of our portfolio of settings because we cannot make it pay and it breaks even. that's about as good as it gets. so the reality , it's an gets. so the reality, it's an expensive . education we accept , expensive. education we accept, but if it's inadequately funded parents have to pick the shortfall and that's what's been happening for a decade. if it make sense. right. because there are other say, for example,
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finland , where they do pay a lot finland, where they do pay a lot of tax but then the joker's free. surely there has to be a better way of doing this. it makes absolutely no sense that you will stay at home or do less work. but money in the economy than be subsidised by the government like i just don't see why . why is it so expensive ? i why. why is it so expensive? i don't understand why it costs so much. it feels like they're getting a lot of money. so how come ? but. but the reality is, come? but. but the reality is, it isn't expensive compared to other . the cost is not. the other. the cost is not. the difference is if you look at some of the scandal 19 countries as a percentage gdp they invest considerably more the table actually that we talk in in terms of oecd countries is where a woman's the% of a woman's salary is the highest that's spent on early years care and education. the investment, i'm afraid, is one of the lowest. so
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i come to this point, if you do, if you sell to parents that they can have, all of these so—called free hours, but you inadequately fund it . i free hours, but you inadequately fund it. i have to tell you that government wrecking noise is that their own words tell us that their own words tell us that they are short the sector. then someone has to pay but make up the difference. and it's those parents who do not qualify for these entitlements . the of for these entitlements. the of effectively cross subsidising the early years . we don't treat the early years. we don't treat it as part of our infrastructure as part of our social fabric. it is almost just a return to work agenda for mums and it's much more than that it's about age . more than that it's about age. young children , developing young young children, developing young children. it's about is about us also getting parents back into the working environment so we don't treat that way it's you you actually give it some to hillary on this because some people might listen to this think you had the child you should pay for it you can't stop whingeing about the fact that it's costing you they're
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expensive. what would you say to that? because if people watch you say, i haven't got kids , you you say, i haven't got kids, you know, didn't have kids. i know, i didn't have kids. i couldn't got to pay couldn't afford them. got to pay for deal with well, for them, deal with it. well, i think now , you know, that think now, you know, that argument that know i'm not having kids, should i pay having kids, so why should i pay for is a bit silly because for yours is a bit silly because my going to be ones who my kids are going to be ones who are you know, we're looking after you when you're a pensioner. you know, they're going to be the ones paying taxes in the future. having children is important. and this country survive country can't survive without people children. mean, people having children. i mean, i personally that i might i know personally that i might have had another child if childcare so expensive. childcare weren't so expensive. and i the case for an and i that's the case for an awful lot of people. i think now with the fact rents are expensive as well and, people can't mortgages can't afford to get mortgages and to be an awful and that's going to be an awful lot not children in lot of people not children in the and this is the future. and this is important thing to sort out if look at countries like i was speaking someone today who speaking to someone today who lives south korea, she said lives in south korea, she said that childcare is completely free they get incredible staff there and of that is you know,
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there and of that is you know, the birth rate is low and the government recognises that if you want people to have children, which is important for the economy and you've got to provide childcare at a reasonable free to both reasonable cost or free to both , some incentives might help people . but do we want more people. but do we want more children on this planet? no joking. i thank you very much. it's really good to talk to you, hilary. hillary, that actually she's a working mother and i'll certainly to you very certainly neil to thank you very much to talk to both. much neil good to talk to both. right. so up, we're right. so coming up, we're talking school we all talking school since we all stopped doing our 11 plus exams class have got worse. now what's happened? what do you think i mean? well, we're getting into that with castleton, that with william castleton, leader social democratic leader of the social democratic party. go anywhere. party. so don't go anywhere. back this .
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stream us live on youtube . i'm stream us live on youtube. i'm not aware a revolution betrayed, say , peter hitchens in relation say, peter hitchens in relation to the destruction of grammar schools system that was introduced the uk about 60 years ago. certainly williams and coe systematically ripped up a systematically ripped up a system that took talented working class kids and thrust them into higher and the slums of british society . i wonder why of british society. i wonder why the likes of journalism , arts the likes of journalism, arts and politics have dominated by glass accents much more so than they were few generations ago. well we've got william colston , well we've got william colston, leader of the sdp and fresh from an interview with , mr. hitchens an interview with, mr. hitchens in the studio to discuss just that we're not in the studio. i lied, but good to talk to you, william. what's happened to our education system over the last few decades? the reforms that were meant to sort of reduce inequality have actually done exactly opposite , haven't exactly the opposite, haven't made . yeah, i think i think made. yeah, i think i think pensions is largely right.
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made. yeah, i think i think pensions is largely right . a pensions is largely right. a very good book, by the way, worth buying, reading . not for worth buying, reading. not for the first time. he's right about an issue. yeah. i mean, basically the grammar schools were revolutionary . they created were revolutionary. they created excellence schools. they were available to children merit, which is key and basically they caused competition of the talk. they effectively creates the new class . it was nothing that class. it was nothing that scared an old rovian or an old etonian at oxford oxford or cambridge , the fifties and cambridge, the fifties and sixties. then a very clever grammar school boy, and it often was a grammar school boy, not a girl, but they yeah, it was a revolution that didn't last very long. it was 20 years, 1945 to 1965. and in 65 they stopped the system . i mean, there were a lot system. i mean, there were a lot of problems with it. i mean there weren't enough grammar schools for a start, they were patchy and unevenly spread throughout country and people did object to. the early
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selection . it's not really selection. it's not really a question. i mean, it's interesting the question of selection . no one objects to the selection. no one objects to the selection. no one objects to the selection in print really . you selection in print really. you have it at 16 and 18. after all, you have to you get selected to go to the university . the go to the university. the problem was early selection in many people's eyes and it's not because it was until the crosland you saw a labour who decided that the was going to get rid of these things and he said would literally be if it is the last thing he does is going to make sure that happens. that's putting it very politely. but the conservative conservative party sort of made murmurs that they don't want to carry on the system of grammar ehhen carry on the system of grammar either. keir starmer has been talking about, you know, trying to level the playing field, as in getting rid of in levelling and getting rid of private schools. seems to me private schools. it seems to me it seems a very good thing to want to sort of tamp down on getting people to the merit of people . you know, this should be people. you know, this should be a good thing of grammar school
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does bring . people who couldn't does bring. people who couldn't usually afford to get into the schools . surely that's a good schools. surely that's a good thing. i do understand why this this sort of thing to try and get rid of the. yeah well you have a few left in kent and a northern ireland has grammar schools as well . but it's a schools as well. but it's a pretence really to suggest that you can have excellence without some form of selection. now what i really object to now that we have a selection now let's wake up you have selection by wealth in a leafy suburb very, very good comprehensives herding , you good comprehensives herding, you know. and there's nothing in the universe sharp as the elbows middle class parents who want good education for their kids and their right to don't pretend let's not pretend that we have a sort of free access system that makes the most of every of all the talents we really don't 80% of the comprehensives in this country spend virtually no one
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to oxbridge. so what we have we've replaced a system of grammar schools which were , you grammar schools which were, you know, obvious their selection by merit . we've replaced that with merit. we've replaced that with selection by wealth via house pnces selection by wealth via house prices , which is slightly prices, which is slightly dishonest. i think . i don't know dishonest. i think. i don't know further i don't believe i dishonest. i think. i don't know furtheri don't believe i mean further i don't believe i mean keir starmer can say can have a crack at free schools to be liked but actually if you look at the social structure, a lot of the people sending their kids camps in very leafy areas are actually more class than some of the independent schools in the big cities, which are very diverse actually. and a lot of the parents work very hard, send their kids there . well, i mean, their kids there. well, i mean, so keir starmer, should a bit of what i do which is i used to lecture in schools and across all the schools in the country and. i know for sure that when i went to the grammar schools and the schools that the private schools that behaviour discipline behaviour in general discipline was and actually was far better and actually years ago we were the know, we were the shining lights world. that was the brain drain where
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people in this country went off to america. the americans wanted the paper because . we were the paper because. we were so much cleverer sense . our much cleverer in a sense. our education system was so much better. but now there are comparisons education comparisons with other education systems aren't favourable. systems that aren't favourable. what think will actually what do you think will actually happen to this, to that we may find ourselves going back to the nofion find ourselves going back to the notion of bringing back the grammar school. i don't think we will i think i mean, will our seem much against looking at the potential of you know prospects of introducing selection in pockets you have some very very serious pockets of underachievement in the particularly in in the coastal towns and the towns not so much the cities, but in the towns it might be well looking at, you know, a roll out of some, you know, a roll out of some, you know , education, you really know, education, you really wouldn't call it schools, but selective education targeting those areas that might helpful. we've also got to be realistic actually you know we need to wake i mean you couldn't the country's got a massive public sector borrowing requirement .
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sector borrowing requirement. you know, they can't balance their and the idea that you're going to have sort of post war type of a massive schools building programme is not going to happen it might well be worth looking targeting it. i'd support that in principle. i think need to sort out if they really really truthfully don't want to bring back the concept that sort of notion of grammar schools and they need to sort sort out the school education system and try and bring it all back up to scratch because frankly, it's a bit useless at the moment. and i know because seen it it's really good to you thank you so much for your thoughts on all of that. it's, you really interesting you know, really interesting to hear think about that hear what you think about that that william claxton kristen that is william claxton kristen nunley i was going to get it from william thank you so much. lovely to talk to you this is dvd is my life on tv online on digital radio. i'm quick it's coming up to 43 minutes after 8:00. coming up next. 8:00. they're coming up next. smith in the news a lot smith has been in the news a lot lately. creepy videos, attention seeking exit restaurant outfits. you're not going to believe what
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46 minutes after 8:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel where live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm not a quitter. that was been away a few weeks to sam's smith. first we had this rather strange music video. and as some of you may want to look away, if you're listening in your cars or on radio, you. well, i'm doing you a favour. you'd have to look. but it's a to emulate some sort of rather disturbing and unmentionable behaviour. i mean, what on earth is ? he looks like what on earth is? he looks like he's having a good time though. you also check that out on you can also check that out on youtube i'll say don't allow youtube and i'll say don't allow the kids to watch this . and just the kids to watch this. and just and when you might have and just when you might have thought it couldn't have got any stranger turned up with
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stranger he turned up with a burst of all stressed as this would screeches those who would screeches to those who haven't seen it. you must check it out on it. it just looks like he's got two sort of inflatable hearts on his feet and some weird thing on him. he looks actually like a chicken. if you were in middle of were caught in the middle of like out and now just around it off, he pulled this weird one out bag for a big fan of out of the bag for a big fan of fishing. i do know that. so. yeah, yeah , i'd love to be yeah, yeah, i'd love to be a fish. fish of them. what? take a fly. fisherman i'd i'd be. i'd be happy to have a fish of them. i think i would like to one day. i think i would like to one day. i just like to end my days fishing like we can fish of them . he needs help . really. thanks. . he needs help. really. thanks. i'll be setting up that. we have to say people coming instead of mankind await maternal love is the love that's going to change the love that's going to change the future of mankind . so we'd the future of mankind. so we'd like you to. we would like to say people kind, not necessary , say people kind, not necessary, mankind more inclusive . there we mankind more inclusive. there we go. exactly my mistake . or to
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go. exactly my mistake. or to tell it, to do that by just intruder. joining me now to discuss all of this absurd , discuss all of this absurd, gender neutral nonsense is the transition to an influencer. all london only. thank you very much for joining . only what do you for joining. only what do you make of all this ? well, firstly make of all this? well, firstly , it's a blatant attempt by sam smith to garner more attention to promote his album. first, we have the satanic performance at the grammys. then the brit awards with that ridiculous outfit that looked like an inflated balloon . and now this inflated balloon. and now this clear attempt that , you know, he clear attempt that, you know, he wasn't serious. you wasn't even being serious. you could see he was smiling, trying to say the word fish to them. can actually imagine sam can anyone actually imagine sam smith imagine smith fishing? i can imagine him. watching, but him. maybe whale watching, but fishing. he's clearly fishing. come on. he's clearly doing the doing this to wind up the audience. it's working audience. and it's working because sales are because his album sales are going roof and he's going through the roof and he's getting millions of millions of views by provoking controversy. but can't i like but i can't believe i mean, like he is having a laugh. he clearly is having a laugh. but that's what i think well. but that's what i think as well. i interpret that way. but i interpret it that way. but justin was serious when justin trudeau was serious when he somebody the he correctly somebody with the word mankind is a kind .
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word mankind is a people kind. well, what do you think is happening with this sort of force feeding of this kind of gender neutral or or non—binary or whatever language that's been sort of fed? we feels like we're being indoctrinated . absolutely being indoctrinated. absolutely it is indoctrination. and i think it's just got to an absurd stage. now, where sam smith is claiming he's official. then like not a fisherman, but a fisherman . i think it's just fisherman. i think it's just become so ridiculous. and all these pronouns and things these pronouns and these things , we just need to get , you know, we just need to get back does he or she? back to basics. does he or she? you can be man or woman or you you can be a man or woman or you can you can be a man or woman or you can be trans, but you don't make all these different pronouns and call them and call yourself a fish them and then going on tv then sam's going on tv interviews and say that interviews crying and say that he's bullied for being he's being bullied for being called and you called non—binary. and why you can just it's can stop and you just think it's just become at this just become absurd at this stage. kids are looking up stage. and kids are looking up to this and thinking, this is totally normal. you yeah, it is a bit of worrying thing and a bit of a worrying thing and i think kids are getting very, very confusing to very confused. it's confusing to me. forcing to sort me. i don't forcing us to sort of change the english language to then it's to destroy it. i mean, then it's plural. they you know, why are we why are we why are people i
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mean, or even so, mean, mean, or even so, i mean, i watched it. i only saw it on youtube. the good morning britain susanna reid britain crew and susanna reid correcting madeley when correcting richard madeley when he called sammy , he she said it he called sammy, he she said it to zay and then she was serious no correction and as well people are being serious and you can get in trouble for so you call the misgendering people and things like that people are things like that and people are serious with this. you'll get punished for this. absolutely i mean, i've been punished with all of them just speaking my mind online at the end of the day, sam smith a man. he's a day, sam smith is a man. he's a biological you know, we all biological man. you know, we all know he's a man. so stop calling him that. he needs to take an engush him that. he needs to take an english lesson, back english grammar lesson, go back to realise that to university and realise that that more than person. that means more than one person. so thinks he's so unless sam smith thinks he's more one person, he is a more than one person, he is a man. so he needs to the man. so he needs to use the correct pronouns. him . that correct pronouns. he him. that would right, as they need would be right, as if they need to tell us that as well. we already know him well, that thing. and finally, nick, mr. gin, been gin, she's obviously been inspiring she inspiring pittard and when she was she called was she she called she called alia bryce and she or he or she got it wrong. and this is this
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whole thing that she put in there has been sort of her own doing. the thing that that she sort of deserved to go because of that, you know , i'm surprised of that, you know, i'm surprised nicholas sturgeon didn't go sunak cause she caused so much harm to women in scotland. i mean, fact she was mean, the fact that she was prioritising the rights of a male in prison that male rapist in prison that identified as trans, i'm putting, you know, a murderer that i didn't put as trans trying to get them to see her pronouns. it's pronouns. i mean, it's absolutely ridiculous put the absolutely ridiculous to put the rights criminal the rights to a criminal over the rights to a criminal over the rights know, rights women and, you know, women very angry in women with very angry in scotland, everyone was angry. and put women and it's not fair to put women at risk by putting men in women's jails. so i'm glad she's gone. surprise she didn't go soon now, but she has caused irreparable harm women and irreparable harm to women and also to teens that now think they go and identify as they can go and identify as anything want. know, anything they want. you know, it's normal behaviour. some it's not normal behaviour. some people born in people generally feel born in the wrong body, but most kids just to live their lives just want to live their lives and they shouldn't be indoctrinated woke indoctrinated with this woke ideology stop, ideology. it's got to stop, hasn't it? because children are just be confused just going to be confused and
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suddenly you have suddenly over to you. you have changed. you've changed. so you've the transition prissy transition taught me prissy about what's going on with you . about what's going on with you. yes, i struggled my whole life with identity issues. i used to get bullied a lot when i was youngen get bullied a lot when i was younger, so it led me to develop very low self confidence and self esteem. so i had surgery to try and improve myself and then that wasn't enough. so then i changed my identity. i was actually living as trans woman actually living as a trans woman last year and then i got to a stage where i still wasn't happy and i was thinking, what is the solution i like solution to this? i felt like i was maybe trapped in wrong was maybe trapped in the wrong body. kept me body. people kept telling me i was a woman. i clearly wasn't. and, you know, i woke up and realised that, you i just realised that, you know, i just need myself. so i've need to be myself. so i've actually campaigning actually been campaigning against ideology. against gender ideology. i'm currently in washington dc where i've speaking with members i've been speaking with members and i'm also going to be making i've been speaking with members a|big�*m also going to be making i've been speaking with members a|big announcemento be making i've been speaking with members a|big announcement tomorrow ng a big announcement tomorrow regarding d transitioning a gender ideology and my fight against that . hmm. well, wish against that. hmm. well, wish you all the of people. want you all the best of people. want to out about what to find out more about what you're doing? do you have a hashtag something? they need hashtag or something? they need to look you. really i'm to look out for you. really i'm
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yeah. so twitter, only yeah. so on twitter, it's only london going to be london tv. i'm going to be making announcement on making the announcement on american be american tv. i'm going to be posting on twitter tomorrow posting on my twitter tomorrow so can check it there so people can check it out there really is a set time. what time is it like? i'll be ready. i said. it's going to 6 pm. said. it's going to be 6 pm. new york time, so in the uk i think that's like 11 p am at night. so but it'll be on my socials. well it's in all. it's really to talk you. in a really good to talk to you. in a final word, what would you say to most? what would you say to people who are feeling the way you when were you did when you were unsure about would about your gender? what would you say to somebody that you say to somebody in that position ? so i would i would position? so i would i would just say to all the young people watching this, find watching this, just find confidence within , be happy confidence from within, be happy with you don't fall with who you are, don't fall victim what you see on social victim to what you see on social media. now, don't worship people like smith. that is i think like sam smith. that is i think is bad role model in is a very bad role model in trying young people trying to confuse young people that going through that are already going through identity just be identity struggles. so just be happy with who you are and know your and just be your self—worth and just be confident look the way you were born. listen, thank you so born. well, listen, thank you so much. all that's in london much. all that's all in london there is a detransition, an
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influencer. what? it's an dan wootton on the way next. but wootton is on the way next. but stay tuned for him . dan, what stay tuned for him. dan, what have you got coming up? none of what a treat to have you with this time. i turned on at 8:00 and i have to say, agree and i have to say, i agree with everything you said about sturgeon at the top of the show. i loved the return of your mum impressions, too. and i think she's got sturgeon. sturgeon totally right. so we're going to be continuing that debate tonight. nana and actually toby young is to in ask a fascinating question . has jk rowling , who question. has jk rowling, who they tried to cancel in this equivalent of a modern day witch trial, has she actually triumphed over nicholas sturgeon plus sarah vine , sean bailey, plus sarah vine, sean bailey, and from the snp austin sheridan 7 and from the snp austin sheridan ? on our superstar panel tonight . so i think it's going to get very heated. well, listen, that is going to be a cracker as you know, i watched from behind. i'm going to be watching here. thank you so much. done so to talk to
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you. will, that all sounds fabulous. thank to my guests fabulous. thank you to my guests and you. joining me us be and to you. and joining me us be back saturday i'm back on saturday at four. i'm going leave you with the going to leave you with the weather. hello i'm weather. enjoy. hello there. i'm greg. you has the welcome to your latest broadcast from the met will met office. a storm otto will move across uk over next move across the uk over the next 24 bringing some very 24 hours, bringing some very strong particularly 24 hours, bringing some very strong of�*articularly 24 hours, bringing some very strong of scotlandy 24 hours, bringing some very strong of scotland and across parts of scotland and northern england. can see northern england. we can see that pressure pattern for that on the pressure pattern for the named by the the next 24 hours named by the danish met institution, this system will bring some very strong winds, of up 80 strong winds, gusts of up to 80 miles hour so across miles an hour or so across exposed parts of scotland . exposed parts of scotland. already pushing in this evening across scotland, northern ireland, england ireland, cloudy across england and wales and patchy rain over the higher ground to the winds increasing during early increasing during the early hours, 50, 70 miles an hour, hours, 50, 60, 70 miles an hour, perhaps even locally as we head towards dawn. but mild night towards dawn. but a mild night due the cloud in the wind. due to the cloud in the wind. temperatures starting friday in double figures well where double figures well above where they the time of they should be for the time of year. they should be for the time of year . wet windy start, year. a wet and windy start, some disruption possible . that's some disruption possible. that's obvious. force . obvious. warnings in force. cloudy england, wales cloudy across england, wales dunng cloudy across england, wales during , patchy rain during the day, patchy rain sinking but brightening sinking south, but brightening up across north of the uk .
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up across the north of the uk. blustery showers witness blustery showers to witness eventually easing later on. but do take care if travelling through the course of the day . through the course of the day. exceptionally mild temperatures 1516 celsius despite the cloud and the wind across many parts of the uk into the evening time, the next weather system starts moving . in this system not as moving. in this system not as windy, but there will be some heavy rain associated with this pushing in across scotland , pushing in across scotland, northern ireland, hail, northern ireland, some hail, snow to staying quite snow possible to staying quite cloudy england and wales cloudy across england and wales as we head into the early hours. this starting to push this slowly starting to push through as a result, temperatures again frost free for many, perhaps just getting close to freezing for one or two spots of scotland start saturday morning. a mixed start to the day. we've got spells of rain to begin with, but they should start to ease as we push through the morning, allowing the clouds to some sunny breaks to break in, some sunny breaks to break in, some sunny breaks to develop of these to develop the best of these across northern of across northern parts of scotland. patchy scotland. that's some patchy rain southern scotland . rain across southern scotland. northern a time, northern ireland for a time, temperatures above temperatures still well above where should be for the where they should be for the time of year, largely
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time of year, staying largely dry into sunday. just a few showers . temperatures showers around. temperatures just into just sliding a little into monday .
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no spin, no bias, no censorship. i'm dan wootton. tonight as scots rejoice at their independence from scheming sturgeon . can the country be sturgeon. can the country be unhed sturgeon. can the country be united once again by togetherness and hope instead of queen mix trade mark division? i'll explain why the sturgeon era is now on rathlin and how she has done untold damage to scotland. and ironically , her scotland. and ironically, her separatism cause. that's in my digest next here my superstar panel gives their view. joining me tonight , sarah vine, shaun me tonight, sarah vine, shaun bailey and access mp councillor austin sheridan , an ex tory
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austin sheridan, an ex tory minister and with it kim weighs in on the snp figureheads catastrophic economic legacy , catastrophic economic legacy, big city style at 950 and as sturgeon's most famous critic, j.k. rowling speaks out in a landmark podcast . j.k. rowling speaks out in a landmark podcast. i j.k. rowling speaks out in a landmark podcast . i never set landmark podcast. i never set out to upset anyone , however , i out to upset anyone, however, i was not uncomfortable with getting off my pedestal . so was getting off my pedestal. so was the hunting and cancellation of the hunting and cancellation of the harry potter author a modern day which trial? and despite it all. did she end up emerging victorious over the scottish first minister? the free speech union founder toby young explores at 1020 after nicola bullies family his out and the lancashire police face accusations of victim blaming. was the force wrong to reveal details about the missing mother's issues with alcohol and the menopause? we're going to debate the crisis of confidence and competence facing the cops behind the missing person. investiga ation that has captivated the country as the msm continue to demonise
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ordinary brits for telling the government is love is enough on immigration ? does protesting immigration? does protesting against illegal migrants make you racist and far right? will tory mp for bury more james daly , former brexit party mep rupert lowe and human rights lawyer show abcon go head to head on that in the clash at 920. but does the crass stigmatisation of working class people as far right, despite their concerns, in my view, being genuine and legitimate , put lives at risk. legitimate, put lives at risk. calvin mackenzie gives his unfiltered take at 1040. also coming up on the show tonight, as meghan markle is slammed in court for subject her estranged sister to ridicule , contempt and sister to ridicule, contempt and disgrace is the sussexes web of lies finally coming back to haunt them? royal mastermind sadly, colin campbell and phil dampier analysed that with new information too. at 935. and it's not just an american to a harry and meghan and getting a right royal pasty instagram loving wife actually doesn't want her privacy . how dare you


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