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unmarked england tonight. in my
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big opinion , is on the verge of big opinion, is on the verge of a brexit breakthrough. ignore all the naysayers if he gets a good deal across the line this week , it will be a turning point week, it will be a turning point for premiership. boris got brexit done. rishi can make brexit done. rishi can make brexit work . my mark means guest brexit work. my mark means guest is one of the longest serving meps in parliament and he's the godfather of brexit. so bill cash life in the studio . we'll cash life in the studio. we'll discuss the northern ireland protocol , eu discuss the northern ireland protocol, eu and boris johnson in the big question was nicola sturgeon good for scotland or bad and what will her departure mean for the next general election .7 and in the news election? and in the news agenda, with my panel, should rishi sunak do a u—turn on tax rises and are the public sick of woke lots to get through but my big opinions next. first, the headunes big opinions next. first, the headlines we talk to you on a sanchez. headlines we talk to you on a sanchez . mug. think you . good sanchez. mug. think you. good evening. this is the latest from
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the gb newsroom. lancashire police are working to identify a body that was recovered from the river wyre. it was located the area where mother of two nicola bulley disappeared. more three weeks ago. that currently treating the death as unexplained end and say her family has been informed of the latest development . the home latest development. the home secretary suella braverman has described the news heartbreaking and distressing . former and distressing. former detective chief mike neville says the post—mortem examination might not give us information about what happened. we have formal identification of the body. obviously, if it is, nicola has been in the room for a long, you know, nearly three weeks. all our best voluntary weeks. all our best voluntary weeks. but what they what whether the post—mortem can ever tell us whether she entered deliberately or by accident . deliberately or by accident. perhaps we'll never know . it's perhaps we'll never know. it's been too much speculation in this case. of course, we've had all sorts of rules going down there and causing even more harm to the family. so the sooner the
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police can get the post—mortem , police can get the post—mortem, when the identification of . i'm when the identification of. i'm sure be keen to get that sure they'll be keen to get that information there . a cabinet information out there. a cabinet minister says boris johnson's intervention on the northern ireland protocol is not unhelpful because there's still plenty of work to be done . mr. plenty of work to be done. mr. johnson is warning that scrapping the bill would be a great mistake and that comes a day after rishi sunak and the european commission president said they made very good progress on fixing problems with the post—brexit trading arrangements. the protocol bill introduced under johnson gives introduced underjohnson gives the uk the right to ignore eu rules and leader of the house of commons, penny mordaunt, believes that gives the government a stronger bargaining position. i think it's helpful to remind the eu that we have the northern ireland protocol bill. it's helpful to remind them what those expectations are . and but i would also just say that, look, there are encouraging signs that there is
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a people are saying there's a lot more to do, but progress is being made . the keir starmer being made. the keir starmer says under no circumstances will labour do a deal with the snp . labour do a deal with the snp. addressing a party conference in edinburgh, he urged scottish voters to put their faith in labourin voters to put their faith in labour in the wake of nicola sturgeon's resignation . sir keir sturgeon's resignation. sir keir says he can bring the change scotland needs and the tide is turning on the tories and the snp and the musical programme for the king's coronation has been revealed and anthem written by composer andrew lloyd webber , is one of 12 new pieces to be played . the ceremony. best known played. the ceremony. best known for musicals including the phantom of the opera and jesus christ superstar . he said phantom of the opera and jesus christ superstar. he said he's incredibly honoured to have been asked. greek orthodox music will also be on that playlist . a also be on that playlist. a personal request by king charles as a tribute to his late father . tv online and the abbey plus radio show with gb news. now
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it's back to market talent and . i my thanks to tatiana sanchez , my thanks to tatiana sanchez, who returns in an hour's time. welcome to mark dolan tonight in my big opinion in just a moment, rishi sunak is on the verge of a breakthrough. ignore the naysayers if he gets a good deal across the line this week , it across the line this week, it will be a turning point for his premiership. boris got brexit done. rishi can make brexit work in the big question. was nicola sturgeon good for scotland and what will her departure mean for the next general election? does it give labour an opportunity? my it give labour an opportunity? my smart means guest is one of the longest serving meps in parliament and the godfather of brexit. sir bill cash live in the studio discussing the northern ireland protocol, the eu and borisjohnson . it might eu and boris johnson. it might take it ten. prince andrew is
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likely to be turfed out of his £30 million royal lodge , with £30 million royal lodge, with king charles tightening the purse strings. good news . it's purse strings. good news. it's time the pompous prince paid his own way. we've got tomorrow morning's papers. that's tomorrow's papers at exactly 1030 sharp with a full panel reaction. and in the news agenda, should rishi sunak do a u—turn on tax rises and all the pubuc u—turn on tax rises and all the public sick of woke corporations reacting to those stories and many more? all my all star panel of award winning playwright and political commentator emma burnell best selling author and broadcaster emma wolf and top political commentator and a brand new star on mark dolan tonight reem ibrahim . we'll also tonight reem ibrahim. we'll also bnng tonight reem ibrahim. we'll also bring you up to speed, if there are any more developments in the ongoing nicole bully case. a very tragic situation and a body has been found as of course, tatiana has mentioned in the bulletin will keep you up to date on any developments in that story . now i want to hear from
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story. now i want to hear from you throughout the show, mark at the best bit of the show is when you in touch show is when you get in touch and i read out your emails uncensored and unedited. sometimes they quite sometimes they can be quite spicy, which is how i them. spicy, which is how i like them. it's a spicy 2 hours, folks, big debates , big guests, and always debates, big guests, and always big opinions. let's start with this . one brexit it big opinions. let's start with this. one brexit it is like beethoven's 10th symphony. great but unfinished, which takes me to northern ireland and a policy mechanism, the so—called northern ireland protocol, which plunks a border down the middle of our country via the irish sea , was never fit for purpose, but it was the concession which got a free trade deal with the european union across the line. i suspect the then prime minister, boris johnson , minister, boris johnson, accepted the deal, knowing would be dead on arrival and knowing it would have to be renegotiate it. and here we are with , our
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it. and here we are with, our new prime minister on the verge of a brexit breakthrough . yes, of a brexit breakthrough. yes, indeed. brussels said they would never budge on this , but they never budge on this, but they are now about to do exactly that . there are eurosceptic tory mp who are already talking down this deal, but brexit is must not fall into the trap of ideological purity at the expense of britain's national interest. and what is our national interest? well it's to end this dreadful and diplomatic deadlock to give the people of northern ireland a functioning government instalment and to agree a satisfactory future proof deal so we can all get on with our lives . do you want to with our lives. do you want to still be talking about this in ten years time? i don't. now, bofis ten years time? i don't. now, boris johnson has said that it would be a mistake for rishi sunak to get rid of the northern ireland protocol bill, which is currently in the house of lords and is a bill that would effectively tear up the protocol
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, which is a legally protected promise that we made to the eu . promise that we made to the eu. now this legislation has been politically very useful as it has sent a clear message to brussels that they either renegotiate the protocol or it goes brilliant. i love it. but for johnson say that no agreement with the eu and the diplomatic , political and trade diplomatic, political and trade war that would ensue is better than a negotiate to the agreements is reckless , wrong agreements is reckless, wrong and unhelpful . but we would and unhelpful. but we would expect nothing less . from the expect nothing less. from the blonde bombshell . expect nothing less. from the blonde bombshell. boris johnson is a military grade disturber and loses no sleep , making life and loses no sleep, making life hard for rishi sunak on the eve of what could be a groundbreaking achievement, bofis groundbreaking achievement, boris has his talents , but it is boris has his talents, but it is my view that he dishonest as a cellular level and is only motivation his only priority has ever been boris johnson . in the ever been boris johnson. in the end, my prediction is that a
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renegotiated protocol, the manifestation , a compromise on manifestation, a compromise on both sides , and one just good both sides, and one just good enough to satisfy unionist communities. and most tory backbenchers will succeed . it backbenchers will succeed. it won't be incredible , but don't won't be incredible, but don't let the greats be the enemy of the good. don't fall into the trap of ideological purity. it's counterproductive , tive and counterproductive, tive and ultimately hurts the brexit cause. ultimately hurts the brexit cause . if the dup accept the cause. if the dup accept the deal cause. if the dup accept the deal, that's good enough for me thatis deal, that's good enough for me that is my red line sorting out protocol wasn't even on rishi sunak's top five list of prior tees and yet resolving it will be his first political triumph demonstrating statecraft , deft demonstrating statecraft, deft negotiating prowess and sheer determination . if he gets this determination. if he gets this brexit breakthrough, it will boost his personal standing and will, in my view, change the narrative of this government from one seen as a failing ,
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from one seen as a failing, sleepwalking to electoral disaster , a government that wins disaster, a government that wins arguments , fix his problems and arguments, fix his problems and gets things done . the protocol gets things done. the protocol was never acceptable, and it's time for us to be one country again . i am hopeful that's what again. i am hopeful that's what the prime minister will achieve this week. let's see. to his credit, boris got brexit done . credit, boris got brexit done. if prime minister rishi sunak can make brexit work and achieve progress on his other priorities, particularly the economy, the nhs , stopping the economy, the nhs, stopping the boats he'll be laughing all the way to the next election . what's way to the next election. what's your view, mark, at gb news dot uk. i'll get to your thoughts shortly, but let's get the reaction of my all star panel. tonight's playwrights and political commentator emma burnell , bestselling author and burnell, bestselling author and broadcaster emma wolf and top political commentator reem
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ibrahim . reem, let's start with ibrahim. reem, let's start with you. welcome to mark dolan. tonight, your first appearance on the show. thank you for having well, it's great having me on. well, it's great to you. look, i think to have you. look, i think a deal the offing. it deal is in the offing. it represents compromise , represents compromise, both sides. the dup are happy, sides. and if the dup are happy, so am i. i actually want to echo what you've just said, mark. i think that actually the issue is and although i am proud to call, is that i essentially separated northern ireland into the european union's orbit and it means that we got brexit done because the northern ireland still under jurisdiction still are under the jurisdiction of the market and still of the single market and still have to abide by single markets regulations. now i will say i do think this is really just the silver lining for rishi sunak. i think that when we've got the highest tax bed in 70 years, thanks. and in all time, thanks. and in all that time, protocol won't be all safe here. however, is a start however, it is a good start indeed. what about you , emma indeed. and what about you, emma wolff? do you think this could be point for rishi be the turning point for rishi sunakin be the turning point for rishi sunak in his premiership? not even on those. the list of top five priorities, but if we can get this protocol sorted, we can
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all get on with our lives though. mark, i agree with you that it's incredibly important. we can't go on with this diplomatic we just diplomatic deadlock. we just can't and it does can't go on with it. and it does matter intensely to the people of northern ireland to trade and all that out but all of that out there. but i don't think this is something that's going to turn the tide for sunak. i think the for rishi sunak. i think the conservative party are in the death i they're death throes. i think they're going limp towards the next going to limp towards the next election, remember, election, which let's remember, is year dog and is next year down the dog and dark electorate are not dark the electorate are not talking you know, talking about, you know, general, people are not talking about they not about the protocol they are not they're cost of they're talking about cost of living. they're talking about strikes. they're about strikes. they're talking about immigration. if it if you're talking those are talking about the nhs, those are the that matter. it'll be the things that matter. it'll be important for rishi sunak to get this under his belt. if the dup can brought to it, can be brought round to it, which know , messages which you know, mixed messages actually that at actually coming out of that at the moment. but i don't think this is going to turn the tide for rishi sunak one jot. however, emma burnell you're nodding your head there, but it does change the narrative around this minister and this premiership solving problems,
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winning and getting things done. ultimately, a breakthrough on the northern ireland protocol. will desmond strike rishi sunak state craft, which is a headache for labour? well, i suspect won't be a headache for labour for two reasons. first of all, emma is exactly right in both emma is exactly right in both emma and i'm afraid we've been really boring agreement here and i know that boring is not what we're allowed to do on your show, but i do think that this is the thing that is going to change the electorate's mind. on whether this government is failing or not. what would be worse is if they don't get the deal over the line that would, i think, put up even further dent into rishi sunak already fairly battered public profile . but battered public profile. but secondly, the other reason that labouris secondly, the other reason that labour is it's almost certainly going to be labour votes that will get this over the line in the commons. so labour then sort of say, hey, we are the cross—party statecraft party too. so i think this harms labour at all. i think rishi
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sunak will benefit by not losing a if he manages to not lose . i a if he manages to not lose. i do agree that it's the dup that's really going to make the choice either way here. and that's that's where we just don't know whether this is going to get over the line or not. what's your reaction, mark and gb use used uk. i'll get to your emails shortly on that. and don't at mark don't forget at 10:00 my mark means guest it's bill cash. of course a legendary long standing conservative mp. he entered commons in 1984. he was the longest serving conservative mp in the house of commons and this guy knows a thing or two about brexit. he's the godfather of brexit, frankly, alongside nigel farage and one or two others. we'll get his reaction to this deal we'll get his reaction to this deal. is a brexit breakthrough in the offing will be asking bill cash but also ream interestingly mentioned tax cuts and the prime minister should rishi sunak do a u—turn on tax rises will be discussing that very very shortly . also, are the
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very very shortly. also, are the pubuc very very shortly. also, are the public sick of woke corporations will speak to the top academic professor matthew goodwin, who's written a fascinating article about the fact that we're sick of being lectured by the likes of being lectured by the likes of ben and jerry's ice cream and halifax about political correctness . so lots to get correctness. so lots to get through. but next in the big question, was it nicola sturgeon? good for scotland . sturgeon? good for scotland. we'll be debating that with none other than ann widdecombe. see you .
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in three. listen, we have a relationship and we talk every night and you agree with me on some things you don't agree on others. a lot of you are not having rishi sunak and you're not having any potential compromise when it comes the northern ireland comes to the northern ireland protocol was topic of protocol. that was the topic of my opinion . so let's to my big opinion. so let's get to your straightaway . john your feedback straightaway. john says mark, as someone who voted tory for 13 years and has been
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betrayed by the tories ousting boris, i'm telling you from a red wall voter, the tories are out at the next election . it out at the next election. it doesn't matter what rishi does now. people are giving up on brexit. immigration out of brexit. immigration is out of control and it's the working class suffer the most class that suffer the most because children and because their children and grandchildren can't get social housing wages never housing and wages will never improve. children improve. and migrant children who can't speak english get priority in the class room. even if your child has a send the poor and working class as sorry as a didn't quite read exactly what you said there, but i think your point is well made, john, and thank you for making it. we'll get some more of your emails. if sunak hasn't got emails. neil if sunak hasn't got the guts to put the northern ireland protocol bill onto the statue book, that's just one more reason to throw him out. meghan says. i think where she's profiled in the polls will rise significantly if he can pull off a deal. except of all to the dup and sinn fein. but it also have to demonstrate deportation of thousands of illegal immigrants and he's got to lower. well,
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meghan , we will be discussing meghan, we will be discussing whether sunak should do a tax u—turn later this hour . a couple u—turn later this hour. a couple more than we. good to go , more than we. good to go, jacqueline. mark i think your panel are absolutely right the electorate. don't give a fig for the northern ireland protocol you just want a big up. rishi because you backed him from the start. he needs to sort out the things on list of five. jacqueline thank you for that. and last but not least from rick. good evening, rick. how you rick has said dear mark, i'm usually a supporter but you've just shown the real remainer that you still are. compromise was always the remainers narrative compromise on the protocol would be the start of the mission, creep back towards the mission, creep back towards the eu. rick, thank you for your point. look, i take on board what you're saying and i understand that the idea of compromise essentially involves continued alignment with the eu and their rules , and that is a and their rules, and that is a huge problem. and let me tell you, hand on heart, since the
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day of the referendum, since that result came in, i have always wanted brexit to succeed. i've always wanted a proper , i've always wanted a proper, full fat brexit. no customs union, no free movement, no single market. let's do it properly . and i'm confident that properly. and i'm confident that brexit will be a success. keep those emails coming at gb news. greg, are you ready? it's time for this . yes indeed. it's time for this. yes indeed. it's time for this. yes indeed. it's time for the big question in which we tackle a major news story of the day. now tonight with news of impending departure and after eight years in charge, was nicola sturgeon, good for scotland . and what will her scotland. and what will her departure mean for the shape of not just scottish but british politics? does it give labour a better chance at the next election to debate all this? i'm delighted to welcome former conservative government minister, bestselling author and tv personality ann widdecombe , tv personality ann widdecombe, who is our star every sunday night on mark dolan tonight and
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a close ally and friend of nicola . and let me you who it is nicola. and let me you who it is it is former snp glasgow city councillor , broadcaster and councillor, broadcaster and writer austin sheridan. austin was nicola sturgeon good for scotland ? absolutely exceptional scotland? absolutely exceptional is good for scotland domestically and international is wales just that would put scotland on the map and terms our biggest achievements and i mean for example she led the covid pandemic and i'm such a fantastic model so much that she managed to gain the largest share of the vote and largest number of votes during the trip dunng number of votes during the trip during the 2021 hold a direction which was during the pandemic and the number on things like the baby box to love the child and the child payment to the kids out of poverty infrastructure work, the queen said . exhaustion. of course, the said. exhaustion. of course, the consumption was great for scotland. the most recent opinion actually showed that 64% of scots felt it should not take a job and across the entirety of the uk, 46% felt she felt she'd
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done a good job. those are stats that any four of the eight gordon tory families would have dreamed of when they left office . ann widdecombe nicola sturgeon must have been brilliant scotland otherwise so many scots wouldn't have kept voting for her. sorry she was absolutely lousy for scotland . i mean, if lousy for scotland. i mean, if you actually look at the things that matter, measuring the health service, for example , health service, for example, looking at education which used to be i mean, scottish education used to be the jewel in the crown of uk education. now a complete mess. and then of course , the reason that she has course, the reason that she has come to grief is because she tried to push an extreme transgender law, which the majority of scottish voters simply didn't want, and said so in poll after poll, and indeed , in poll after poll, and indeed, one of the most telling polls think was when people were asked in scotland if they'd rather be governed by a law passed at
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westminster, which they did approve of, then by one in edinburgh, which they didn't approve of, they always said that they would prefer the first scenario and finally , what did scenario and finally, what did she always talk about? scottish independence. first of all, the referendum on again, scottish independence . then she promised independence. then she promised a second one, which she couldn't deliver because it was unlawful, couldn't get it through westminster, couldn't get it through courts. she through the courts. then she said next general said she won the next general election if into an effective referendum on independence. and as far as we can make out from the polls again, that's not the way the scots want to do it. so no, i mean, she was not good for scotland. she was a strong personality . i mean, absolutely personality. i mean, absolutely agree with that. but she wasn't good for scotland. i mean, you measure whether people are good for a country or not by the outcomes. and by the way, mark, i'm going to take this i'm just going to take this opportunity of saying it. i've never with you never disagreed with you more tonight were that tonight than when you were that introduction on northern ireland. never mark no, no,
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ireland. just never mark no, no, no . says i'd better come on. you no. says i'd better come on. you are entitled to your view and you are a titan of british politics. so i take on board what you have to say. austin let's have a look at some of the detail here . massive attainment detail here. massive attainment gap in education upon which nicola sturgeon five years ago asked voters to judge her massive problems in the nhs . i massive problems in the nhs. i believe a deficit that runs to the equivalent of 12% of scotland's gdp . we've got scotland's gdp. we've got alcoholism, we've got drug deaths through the roof, scotland's financially broke covid outcomes were terrible . covid outcomes were terrible. the country is in a mess. eight years on. well, just out of america's surprise that the snp detected this of course we're going to talk about that and terms of education attainment gap has been closing, but not closing as fast as, what, late, obviously , the education was obviously, the education was impacted . the pandemic as is the impacted. the pandemic as is the health service . i've seen health service. i've seen similar problems over the border. the most recent stats on
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drug test and actually at the top that's in scotland have never looked very south of the border. dog deaths have increased . so as i said, these increased. so as i said, these are challenges not just the scottish government faced , but scottish government faced, but governments of all complexions across these islands face all of that to tories, england or wales . and then i live in wales, so these are all things that have to go in terms of, but in terms of the gender recognition reform the most recent opinion poll this was after nkosazana oates resignation 2000 pe on sexism supported and 16 seats for the green party . that's double the green party. that's double the number of msps should the tories wasn't 15 msps so in actual fact the gender recognition reform certainly hasn't damage to parties that supported the and actual fact at seem to support and it would be allowed just two independents majority parliament that i've seen so as to make having to say that the gender recognition reform to push the
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snp unsupportive it by every single party and the parliament apart from the tories as a vote loser, an actual with the pockets of one of because the all the popular decision of the tories . well that's because most tories. well that's because most of the main parties in holyrood have lost the plot and austin shendan have lost the plot and austin sheridan suggesting that the gender recognition bill hasn't been damaging for scotland, hasn't been damaging for nicola sturgeon. she's just quit now. i know he's in clyde land, i'm afraid he's doing a very valiant job of trying to defend nicola sturgeon, trying to defend her record. he's pulling out all the stops. but honestly, you know , stops. but honestly, you know, he's he's just not living in the real world. we know we know from poll after poll that the gender recognition bill in scotland was profoundly unpopular in scotland and simply going, i'm trying to extrapolate from a poll which shows voting intentions isn't an endorsement of the gender recognition bill so i think sorry , what did you say it's not
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sorry, what did you say it's not it's not what it is. all people kept saying that the gender recognition forum was going to be really damaged. snp it was going it was going to be it was going it was going to be it was going to leave in and too going to leave in droves and too not you know, until in it not far, you know, until in it is even more positive what it would have asked. it's often you've just lost your leader, nicola sturgeon's just quits after eight years. i wish it wasn't forced out of our population. our courier may be able to defeat, but it's such a last offer on a cloud. i mean, there's not very many of those that can truly say that they're left off with a quote . so i'll left off with a quote. so i'll go for the tories . why have they go for the tories. why have they selected off? so they wasn't going to all of the widows? because they've been disastrous. if it wasn't to alleged corruption within the snp and if it wasn't the woke takeover of the party most of the the party that most of the scottish public what scottish public hate, what was it that did for nicola sturgeon? most of the scottish public way of snp written in the poll of the snp written in the poll was way over. set to have 60 was way over. snp set to have 60
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msps, all and while the projected to have 45 and out of the 57 seats and for westminster i mean but i'll have to look i hear the snp are losing support the snp are still beating that opinion polls and nicola sturgeon's approval ratings 64% in scotland and 46% across the entire city of over 880 ten them any of the outgoing tory prime ministers would have loved to have lost by ofsted because they've got a disaster . have lost by ofsted because they've got a disaster. i hate to throw numbers around but a majority of scots were against the gender recognition bill when last polled . can we talk about last polled. can we talk about what this does to scottish politics? does it leave the door open for labour? austin because keir starmer has said that scottish voters will now look at labour with a fresh eyes . labour with a fresh eyes. absolutely not, because the labour party don't offer what people in scotland won, which is essentially the entry back into the eu labour have closed the door or not. would have also will not under any circumstance support scotland . tourism is one
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support scotland. tourism is one of the focus of the keir starmer in general not just in scotland but across the entirety of the uk as he thinks that if he says nothing that he's just going to walk an election because the tories obtained so badly. what can politicians obstruct your summer is weak and if the labour party and that's just the advice to them, if they actually want to them, if they actually want to have a leader that can govern properly, actually properly, they should actually that should and replacing them of somebody actually of somebody is actually a sensible and this could be good news for keir starmer has the departure or will the departure of nicola sturgeon open the door to a labour victory at the next election ? i think it certainly election? i think it certainly helps labour . election? i think it certainly helps labour. i don't think there's any point in denying that at although i'd like to think it didn't help labour, i think it didn't help labour, i think it didn't help labour, i think it does help labour. i think it does help labour. i think that it's been a big blow to the snp. i think the whole mess around the not only the gender recognition bill but also is the whole business of scottish independence and the fact that she get a lawful
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second referendum. i the whole thing does open the way for some labour gains in scotland. i've doubt about that. i didn't like it, but i think it's true. austin and sheridan, finally. why you so loyal to? nicola sturgeon. what she got on you? she got pictures of you in your speedos or something . oh, my speedos or something. oh, my goodness. i ask that i would feel really, really sorry for absolutely not. and i believe that that consumption as a politician has always done what she believes is best. now sometimes they get it wrong, then that's fine. but i believe that that solution is fundamentally well—intentioned and that is a connection that i work for. and a little. so when remember looking at who is next? we didn't and i don't know what i myself what i want to see them and because of what she then take for what i'm going to be judging , that same matter judging, i'm on that same matter . i'll be genuine. i'll be and they stand up for what they believe in something that keir starmer can't see that it does
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because all over the place he's what, double speak? austin we always love having you on the show. austin sheridan , a former show. austin sheridan, a former snp, glasgow city broadcaster and political commentator and writer. and my thanks to , ann writer. and my thanks to, ann widdecombe, of course, former conservative government minister, bestselling author and tv personality and the star of mark dolan tonight every sunday evening in the big question slot. and we'll see you in a week. lots more to get through, but let me know your thoughts. has been good for has sturgeon been good for scotland? it open door scotland? does it open the door to a victory at the next to a labour victory at the next election market? malt meats guest is brexit supporting tory legend sir bill cash he's live in the studio is . a brexit live in the studio is. a brexit breakthrough in the offing will bill cash with me in the way that iron has about a deal on the northern ireland protocol, all opinions are welcome . i love all opinions are welcome. i love it when you don't agree. so do get touch market papers at 1030. but next are the pubuc papers at 1030. but next are the public sick of woke corporate martians? see you .
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in two sir. bill cash is my mark meets guest live in the studio after ten is a brexit breakthrough in the offing now new research suggests that brits are cynical tired of attempts by big business to force political views on employees and customers. this to policy exchange a new polling by the political think tank reveals that the majority of the public 58% reject the suggestion that companies should be able demand that their employees declare gender pronouns. you know he him she her. when asked whether people support companies firing employees is because they share controversial but legal beliefs on social media outside of working hours, only 12% backed that kind of censorship . only that kind of censorship. only one in five of voters think
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companies should be able to refuse to do business with customers who beliefs that they disagree . matthew goodwin , disagree. matthew goodwin, writer, broadcaster and politics professor at kent university, carried out the polling. his new values voice virtues, the new british politics is out next month. and you can pre—order now in will likely be one of the politics books of the year. matthew joins me now. hi, prof . matthew joins me now. hi, prof. good to have you back on the show, matthew. are we now seeing significant pushback from the pubucin significant pushback from the public in relation to so—called wokeness or extreme political correctness? is a pattern emerging here ? well firstly, i emerging here? well firstly, i think it's remarkable that we spend a lot of our time talking about companies discriminating against workers of their beliefs or insist that their employees
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declare gender pronouns. but nobody's really looked at whether ordinary people support their staff . and when we went their staff. and when we went out and we surveyed , a out and we surveyed, a nationally representative survey of voters , large majorities of of voters, large majorities of them said , actually, i don't them said, actually, i don't think companies should be demanding their workers use pronouns. i don't think they should be discriminating against people because of their political beliefs. i don't think they should be monitoring what their workers are doing on social media outside of working hours . and so you put all of hours. and so you put all of this together at once again. you know, once again, what we find is that this very belief system that's becoming increasingly in our institutions isn't actually really by a large majority of people . indeed, we've seen the people. indeed, we've seen the halifax and their policy of asking employees on a voluntary bafis asking employees on a voluntary basis to have pronouns on their name badges. we've had ben and jerry's who sell ice , being jerry's who sell ice, being critical of the government's
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borders policy and the rwanda plan . why have companies become plan. why have companies become so political? matthew bell they would say . it's because they are would say. it's because they are , you know, they're virtuous. they're morally righteous. they are sort of aligning themselves with the new mood of the moment when we ask ordinary people , when we ask ordinary people, ordinary people, your viewers out there, only 10% of them say they think companies are doing this for sincere . a lot of this for sincere. a lot of people out there, i are looking at the adverts. they see on television. i think they're looking the posters they're seeing on the tube i think they're looking at what they're seeing in their workplace . and seeing in their workplace. and to be frank, i think they're quite sceptical, cynical quite sceptical, if not cynical . you know, there's a hypocrisy with this and let's be clear about this because it's important when a major retailer who will go unnamed demands on twitter that everybody celebrates, say, black history month. and if they if they don't
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, they're not welcome to shop at that. , they're not welcome to shop at that . but at the , they're not welcome to shop at that. but at the same time, , they're not welcome to shop at that . but at the same time, that that. but at the same time, that company is stripping rights away for workers or their ceo is involved in a tax avoidance scheme to pay as little tax as possible . that hypocrisy is not possible. that hypocrisy is not lost on people . and i think lost on people. and i think that's really what what what rubs a lot of voters up the wrong way. they feel that they're being lectured to they feel that they're being told that they're morally inferior. and at the same time the company these are clearly doing everything they can to avoid contributing to the national community. and i think a lot of voters as the polling shows, are pretty fed up with that really looking forward your book looking forward to your book given that sturgeon's political career has arguably ended because of her attachment to a particularly woke issue gender ideology which blindly accepts the premise that a man is a woman or vice versa will growing pubuc woman or vice versa will growing public irritation at political correctness be a factor at the next election, do you think? i
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believe it's been decisive in scotland already . will we see scotland already. will we see that at the next uk wide general election ? well, that's the election? well, that's the million dollar question. you and ihave million dollar question. you and i have been talking about this for some time and it wasn't that long ago, everybody on twitter and in london and westminster would tell you that, well, culture, war politics is dead. end politics. you know, that these issues won't really change anything. well, look, scotland, the message scotland is that if you pursue a policy which only supported by 20% of scots, the mssp, that you just had on was clearly not reading the research and went public opinion is. and if these policy that are only supported by a small minorityt are just imposed on people, then guess what? there's to be a political backlash to that . as political backlash to that. as i said in the aftermath of nicola sturgeon's downfall and as i write about in the book i think a lot of labour mps, a lot of folks on the left are going to be looking at these debates and thinking actually, if we keep
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pushing this as hard as we are , pushing this as hard as we are, there potentially going be there is potentially going to be a pretty strong backlash from voters of being voters are fed up of being lectured to these ideas , these lectured to these ideas, these issues. and i suspect keir starmer has probably watched the nicola sturgeon episode quite closely and will probably, if he's wise thinking i should start rowing back actually on some of this . yes. i mean, that some of this. yes. i mean, that image of him taking knee, i think we can all agree we condemn racism the most evil stain on humanity. but that photo of him taking the knee could be politically divisive for him. perhaps in some of those red wall seats , just those red wall seats, just because it's seen as political virtue signalling, because it's seen as political virtue signalling , woke because it's seen as political virtue signalling, woke finger wagging . well, i think the mood wagging. well, i think the mood is changing. i think a lot of voters we can see in the polling actually are becoming more aware of what this woke issue is . i of what this woke issue is. i think a lot of voters and your view is out there and now i think increase in the aware that this isn't just about being nice to people that there is a pretty concerted political project that
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is aligned to this, that when you're asking a worker to show they're pronouns, what you're asking them and let's clear about this is to themselves with gender identity theory, you're asking them to align themselves with a very specific beliefs which many people would argue is not really grounded in science and is ideology. right. and i think a lot of voters are looking at this and now thinking, i'm not actually down with allowing kids to legally change their gender without any medical advice. i'm not really with renaming pregnant women pregnant persons . with renaming pregnant women pregnant persons. i'm not really comfortable with the colonising all of our university reading lists. and i'm not with revising how we think about our national history that we're always told about the bad and we're never told about the good. and i think that rebellion that we beginning to see. and there are little signs of it. you know, i take the bestseller list this week in the bestseller list this week in the book section, the papers, one the bestsellers , one of the top bestsellers, nigel biggar's on
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nigel biggar's book on colonialism , which he he offers colonialism, which he he offers an account of you to the white view. he says, you know, british st got a lot of things wrong, but it got a lot of things right. and let's talk about some of those things got right and i sense the culture actually the there is the beginning of this pushback, a ecosystem pushback, a big ecosystem of organisations net works media channels like gb news news, substack, twitter youtube shows you think i think that ecosystem is to build and i think we're beginning maybe to get that that diversity of view to not to use a pun but that diversity of viewpoint that i think is really, really important in pushing down an ideology that is really only supported by about 15 to 20% of the country. and thatis 15 to 20% of the country. and that is the crucial. fair enough for listen, let me tell you, you can pre—order mathew's new book, values, voice and virtue. the new british politics. it's out now, but you can order it straightaway, be reading it very shortly . we asked you on twitter shortly. we asked you on twitter if you think the public is sick
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of woke corporations. 91.9% say yes. 8.1 say no tv get my might means guest is bill cash lots to come don't go anywhere .
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it's a brexit deal in offing is the brexit breakthrough you're on the way next week i'll be asking tory legend of course lifelong eurosceptic mp bill cash sir bill cash . he's with me cash sir bill cash. he's with me after ten. big reaction to big opinion. mark says in yet another example of brexit betrayal, stop this slithering up to the european union trouser leg. have you forgotten the european union threatened to invoke article 16 on a whim to thwart our vaccine programme? wait up, pam says hi, mark. if bill cash lord frost ids sir
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john redwood and ben habib approve rishi's plan, that's good enough for me. anything short of their approval is a big no no. unless they invoke article 16. pam, thank for that. i'll get to more of your emails . a quick one on. are you sick of woke corporate asians lecturing you about politics and political correctness? this from alan, who speaks for many woke can go to hell. just ignore it and don't conform to this nonsense . thank you alan. keep nonsense. thank you alan. keep those emails coming. market reacting to the now reacting to the big stories of the day. my all—star panel award winning playwright and political commentator emma burnell best selling author and broadcaster emma and top political emma wolfe and top political commentator, brand new star on mark dolan tonight reem ibrahim, now seven senior conservative backbenchers signed letters to the prime minister, demanding tax cuts they want april's rise in corporation tax to be scrapped. so it begs the question , should rishi sunak do question, should rishi sunak do a on tax rises ? reem you
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a on tax rises? reem you mentioned this in reaction to my big opinion, so why don't you take it away? you're you're an argument for cutting corporation tax, for example. oh, you've corporation tax save rishi sunak has already announced that he's going increase it from 19% to going to increase it from 19% to 25. that crushes businesses. and we're not just talking big corporations . we're talking corporations. we're talking about small businesses , those about small businesses, those hardworking in this hardworking people in this country that are just being crushed the tax burden. now crushed by the tax burden. now we've highest tax burden we've got the highest tax burden in 70 years. we've got a high tax burden under so—called tax burden under this so—called conservative we conservative government than we did under socialist did under the socialist governments attlee . governments of clement attlee. when we help the nhs to it, when we help the nhs to stop it, that absurd me and the fact that absurd to me and the fact that absurd to me and the fact that we've still got this going on i think is ridiculous now sunak to is a high high sunak to me is a high tax high spend conservative. we're already seeing this drive out investment astrazeneca investment. so astrazeneca for example , already pulled . a £320 example, already pulled. a £320 million investment deal within the north of england, put it over to the republic ireland where the taxes are much lower and they've been about the fact that taxes were the cause. this to me shows actually the
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to me shows that actually the united will be going united kingdom will be going down decline if we do down a path of decline if we do get grip this tax burden. get a grip of this tax burden. however, going to pay however, who's going to pay for this we've got 2 trillion this tax? we've got 2 trillion quid us of national debt, a quid to us of national debt, a deficit, which means that more comes than goes every comes out than goes in every month. inflation. month. and raging inflation. absolutely so we've got to be able to cut spending. we cannot do the liz truss sense of it initially go down and cut that spending, taxes away. spending, cut those taxes away. we've to balance the books we've got to balance the books and cut spending in the first instance and then we're able to cut taxes. would you cut those taxes. where would you cut those taxes. where would you cut departments? cut which departments? oh honestly , us government honestly, us government department of department thing is a lot of waste. moment within waste. so the moment within government bureaucracy, particularly to particularly when it comes to the , so with the public services, so with education, care at the education, health care at the moment, with the nhs, for example, spend just below example, we spend just below £200 billion a year. we do not need to be spending much on health care. indeed, people boast that the nhs is the biggest employer in europe. not sure in sure that's a boast because in the end demonstrates possibly the end it demonstrates possibly how it is. but emma how inefficient it is. but emma , you think about these , what do you think about these tax it will stimulate the tax cuts? it will stimulate the economy, growth, means economy, creates growth, means we look after we can then look after
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vulnerable . i think two vulnerable people. i think two things. first of all, rishi sunak has essentially made his political name on not being liz truss , and that means fiscal truss, and that means fiscal conservatism and that does mean probably sticking to his current plans and not going helpful. leather on tax . he's also leather on tax. he's also looking at an election in the next 18 months. he's not going to massive spending cuts when everything is falling apart already . so it's just already. so it's just politically i am and i think it's a bad i think we should be spending more on public services . they clearly need it at the moment . i think the tax i think moment. i think the tax i think the tax rises are a bad idea. no, no, i think i think cutting that i think they've got. but i think they're on the rise. and i support the in corporation tax. i do think that we could look corporation tax rates right that yeah a lot of corporation tax comes from smaller businesses who are struggling or are thinking particularly about pubs and restaurants at the moment, cafes , those hubs cafes, those hubs of neighbourhoods are really
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struggling at moment. they're really, really having a hard time. post—covid rebuilding. so i think they can be down to really changed the tax code around. but i think what's going to happen between now and the i just think politically sunak does not the space to take up this to change this tax code rise in any way from the general public. and he certainly doesn't have the space to make the spending cuts that reigns talking about in order to get that done. okay we've had for and against emma wolf. i think i'd be more impressed with these senior tories and kind of captains of industry if they were calling for windfall taxes on the obscene oil and gas profits, if they were calling for some kind of break on the scandalous food price inflation in major supermarkets , i don't in major supermarkets, i don't think that actually trickle down. i'm not as convinced by trickle down economics as the rest of you are. not? no still
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convinced of you. i think you start with the trickle down is a mischaracterisation. it's just if tax rates go up, i don't if the tax rates go up, i don't care astrazeneca i'm welcome to sing go the sing that and go to the republican lead national income don't you. that's why need don't you. that's why you need national income long term long term that's what you term of course, that's what you need to right. i think need to do. but right. i think you start from bottom up. you start from the bottom up. yeah, i mean, spending yeah, i agree. i mean, spending on the country is actually putting more money and making things cheaper for people who actually money in economy. actually money in the economy. what you rather say, what would you rather say, though, somebody running, a though, to somebody running, a small medium sized enterprise small or medium sized enterprise that employ employs perhaps 100 people? the argue they're either going have to lay people off or possibly they will fold as a result this tax increase. and result of this tax increase. and that will happen. yeah. okay. there is an argument for delaying forjunking delaying this or for junking this , but i'm just not worried this, but i'm just not worried about these. huge. instead there's huge businesses. i'm there's the huge businesses. i'm really they're really not. they're not they're going driven out of the going to be driven out of the united kingdom. you're united kingdom. then you're going to have this medium business of not having business instead of not having it. what they say. i it. that's what they say. so i call the that we're going call the people that we're going leave economics one eye, the
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leave economics one eye, one the laffer you increase laffer curve. if you increase actually up getting actually you end up getting less taxation the taxation for the for the treasury. well, i note that recent suggest that treasury. well, i note that rece or suggest that treasury. well, i note that rece or 3000 suggest that treasury. well, i note that receor 3000 millionairesthat treasury. well, i note that receor 3000 millionaires leave two or 3000 millionaires leave the year. it the country every year. it stands partly of tax . stands partly because of tax. and line is, i know and the bottom line is, i know we unequal world and we live in an unequal world and that's very sad. but we need these rich people here to spend their they their money here. and when they do come back, it's money. poor people money, rich people people spend money, rich people hoard actually need hoard money and we actually need we don't the we need short. don't leave the country want be here. if country if they want be here. if they have that big house and they have that big house and they have that big house and they have their children in school, communist quarter. school, it's communist quarter. i . and yeah, exactly. i know. and i do. yeah, exactly. it's weird. it's a losing common sense corner and a little spin got up . aitken left tonight . got up. aitken left tonight. last tonight . i don't think that last tonight. i don't think that persuasive . okay, final final persuasive. okay, final final word from me . i just think it's word from me. i just think it's ridiculous to insinuate that rich people always hold their money. that is genuine communism. i think that what we should be paying to spend the money on markets is some money. it may say invest the money in small businesses just like those that have run across the
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country. last time i saw a royal running a corner shop. i'll get it i think got to say it next time. i think got to say i'm all about the wealth creators, but i'm about the corner shop as well. your corner shop as well. what's your view, at gb news .uk? view, mark at gb news .uk? coming in my take and ten, coming up in my take and ten, i'm going to dealing with i'm going to be dealing with prince andrew who's likely to be turfed of his prince andrew who's likely to be turfed out of his £30 million royal him . that's royal lodge. poor him. that's a topic. it might take a ten. i'm not pulling my punches. pretty eye—watering stuff. prince andrew gets the dolan treatment next. and also my malt meets guest is a special man. guest is a very special man. brexit tory legend sir bill cash, the godfather . brexit if cash, the godfather. brexit if you like. he's live in studio taking your questions mark at all of that is .
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next it's 10:00 next it's10:00 and this is mark dolan tonight to have your company in my take it ten in just a moment prince andrew is likely to be turfed out of just a moment prince andrew is likely to be turfed out o f £30 likely to be turfed out of £30 million royal lodge with king charles tightening the purse strings. good news. it's time the pompous prince paid his own way. my means guest is one of the longest serving mps in parliament and the godfather of brexit, sir bill cash, will discuss the northern ireland protocol. the eu and boris johnson is brexit breakthrough on the way plus tomorrow's papers at exactly 1030 with full panel reaction . but next up, panel reaction. but next up, i'll be dealing with prince andrew and spark's will fly first. tatiana sanchez sanchez . first. tatiana sanchez sanchez. mark, thank you. this is the latest from the gb newsroom lancashire are working to identify body that was recovered from the river wyre. it was located in the area where mother of two nicola billie disappeared
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more than three weeks ago. the currently the death is unexplained and say her family has been informed of the latest developments. home secretary suella braverman has described the news as heartbreaking and distressing. former detective chief inspector mike neville says the post—mortem examination might not give us information about what happened ? there'll be about what happened? there'll be about what happened? there'll be a formal of the body . obviously a formal of the body. obviously if it is, nicola's been in the along with, you know, three weeks or than three weeks, but what they , what, whether the what they, what, whether the post—mortem can ever us whether she entered deliver greatly or i by accident perhaps will never has been too much speculation in this case of course we've had all sorts of ghouls down there and causing even more hurt to the families of the sooner the police can get the post—mortem and the identification done. i'm sure they'll be keen to get that information out . prime minister information out. prime minister has rejected calls by senior conservative mp to scrap a
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planned rise in corporation tax. rishi sunak is set, introduce a new policy hiking the tax from 19% to 25% in april. but several tory backbenchers are encouraging mr. sunak to abandon the increase as part of the march budget . it would be a blow march budget. it would be a blow to levelling up hopes. however, a government spokesperson says it's vital to stick to it in order to halve inflation this year and reduce debt . sir keir year and reduce debt. sir keir starmer says under no will labour do a deal with the snp dressing ? a party conference in dressing? a party conference in edinburgh as cautious voters to put their faith in labour in the wake of nicola sturgeon's resignation. sir keir says he can bring the change scotland needs and the tide is turning on the tories, on the snp and the movie all quiet . the western movie all quiet. the western front took the bafta's by storm this evening, taking home seven awards and. with that it broke the baftas record for the most
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awards won by a film not in english. well, elvis star austin butler won the bafta for the best leading actor. he beat colin farrell , best leading actor. he beat colin farrell, who'd been best leading actor. he beat colin farrell , who'd been the colin farrell, who'd been the favourite to take the prize and the banshees of inertia and was among the other big winners. evening winning the award for outstanding british film. it's just been kings tv , online and just been kings tv, online and derby plus radio . this is gb derby plus radio. this is gb news. now it's back mark dolan tonight . tonight. my thanks to tatiana sanchez, who's back at 11. welcome to mark dolan tonight. a busy my most meets guest is one of the longest serving msps in parliament and many consider him the godfather of brexit. sir bill cash . we'll discuss the bill cash. we'll discuss the northern ireland, the eu and bofis northern ireland, the eu and boris johnson is a brexit breakthrough on the way. also
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we've got monday's front pages, tomorrow's papers at exactly 1030 sharp with full panel reaction. lots to get through. plus, my all star panel . but plus, my all star panel. but next up, it's my take . a ten next up, it's my take. a ten prince used to be known as . prince used to be known as. randy, andy. well, now angry. andy as the duke of york faces eviction from his £30 million home, the royal lodge in windsor, which boasts 30 bedrooms. that's a million quid per room. nice work if you can get it. but charles may cut his income so he can no longer afford to keep living there and maintain the building. it must be a nightmare for poor old andy. and if he's watching, let offer the prince this gift from the team at mark dolan tonight. there it is . it's the world's there it is. it's the world's smallest violin . don't forget is smallest violin. don't forget is a prince who has brought the
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royal family into disrepute . his royal family into disrepute. his friendship with known jeffrey epstein . and he made a fool of epstein. and he made a fool of himself and his family. with that newsnight , in which he that newsnight, in which he claimed to have a disorder in which he doesn't sweat . well, which he doesn't sweat. well, he's sweating now as he faces life on the streets . i wouldn't life on the streets. i wouldn't go that far . of course, it turns go that far. of course, it turns out the privileged prince has inherited millions from his late mother and father and has enjoyed a reported annual salary of a quarter enjoyed a reported annual salary of a quarte r £1,000,000 from the of a quarter £1,000,000 from the royal coffers since 2001. our modernising, dynamic new charles iii, who i think we can all agree, has got off to a cracking start wants to have a slimmed down monarchy . and the first down monarchy. and the first lump of unwanted they should get rid is andrew himself who hasn't just shamefully discredited members of his own family. he is a national embarrass and he
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feels so in this country. apparently press speculation he may follow harry and meghan to america . they've got a massive america. they've got a massive place . montecito, california, place. montecito, california, lots of billionaires there. he likes billionaires. why doesn't he lodge himself with harry and meghan? apparently in their mansion, they've got 16 bathrooms. perfect for a guy who is so full of crap . andrew goes is so full of crap. andrew goes to america . perfect. allow me to to america. perfect. allow me to the airfare myself . as long as the airfare myself. as long as it's one way. king charles right to deal with this fat royal. because charles wants to demonstrate that the new monarchy 2.0 is in step . the monarchy 2.0 is in step. the modern world to earn its keep to run a tight and give the great british some bang for their. run a tight and give the great british some bang for their . you british some bang for their. you get the wrong kind of banging from randy andy . and don't from randy andy. and don't forget prince andrew , a man who forget prince andrew, a man who has been gifted house by his own mother when he got married but sold it to an arabic for 15
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million quid in two thousand and seven. this is a man who's settled out of court to the tune of millions against. his accuser, virginia giuffre . to be accuser, virginia giuffre. to be fair, he has protested his innocence from one. no problem. he may have been stitched up. who knows ? but either way, his who knows? but either way, his behaviour has been below par for top royal and he hasn't shown ounce of contrition for the embarrassed amount he's brought to his family , to his country. to his family, to his country. who could blame his older brother who has served the country with distinction and integrity for decades from turfing old randy andy out of his current digs ? andrew will be his current digs? andrew will be fine course. he has a personal wealth. you and i can only dream of. he never has to work again. not that he did in the first place. so it's time to dislodge this royal from the royal lodge . andrew should be getting sweet. f.a. from his sweet .
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sweet. f.a. from his sweet. home your reaction market gb news dot uk. it's time now for mark in which i speak to the biggest in the world of politics, showbiz, sport and beyond . tonight, one sport and beyond. tonight, one of the most experienced , of the most experienced, respected politicians in the country , sir bill cash, who has country, sir bill cash, who has been serving as a conservative of parliament since 1984, first elected for stafford and the constituency of stone in staffordshire in 1997. after his 10th election victory in 2019, sir bill became , the oldest sir bill became, the oldest sitting member of the of commons. but with the energy and enthusiasm of a man half his age, particularly when it comes to europe, a committed eurosceptic, sir bill has long campaigned for our departure from the european union. he was appointed a knight bachelor in
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the 2014 birthday honours and is the 2014 birthday honours and is the elected chair of the house of commons. european scrutiny committee . who better to committee. who better to scrutinise europe than sir bill? born in london, but growing up in sheffield, bill was educated at stony hurst college in lancashire before reading at oxford. he qualified as a solicitor in 1967, but a political career beckoned and the rest is history. sir bill, welcome to mark dolan tonight great sir . very good to see you. great sir. very good to see you. let's deal with an immediate political issue. is a brexit breakthrough in the offing ? breakthrough in the offing? well, i don't really think it is, actually. and i'll tell you why . first of all, there is no why. first of all, there is no text at. so there's zero papers to look at. nobody really knows what the ingredients or what the details are. that's number one. and the thing is that the issues so huge that the i'm reading on some of the whatsapps that somehow i'd rather people could
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be bounced into an agreement on tuesday is absolutely ludicrous because if that was to be attempted that would set up a whole chain of reaction which would not be helpful. we obviously want to have a solution to the problems of northern ireland. we had troubles. there has been disorder, stability , absolutely disorder, stability, absolutely essential. the good agreement is essential. the good agreement is essential to put all this at risk by trying to rush it without documentation so that nobody can actually see what's been happening. i mean, i've been happening. i mean, i've been talking to some of the dup people over the last couple of days and. they did have a meeting. but as far as i'm aware, they haven't seen any texts and it's the written word that really matters as well as the objectives. and you can't the objectives. and you can't the eu, i mean, that's let's be frank about it. i've come to this conclusion, having been you said on the european since 1985. well, during the pandemic, the commission president, ursula von der leyen, briefly threatened erect a hard border between the
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repubuc erect a hard border between the republic ireland and northern ireland over the vaccine rollout, even though they'd obfuscated about getting a deal because of because of not having a border. absolutely. and they objected. what was amazing was the fact that they actually imposed prohibition exports of imposed a prohibition exports of those vaccines illegally. well i mean, it was done on the so—called article 16. they had to come office. they had to cancelit to come office. they had to cancel it within two days. but the objective was to prevent the astrazeneca vaccines and others from coming over. and then they came to tear up. so absolutely shocking. behaving like really cowboy builders . well, cowboy builders. well, absolutely right. however we do need this resolved. and as i said, in my big opinion, i don't think it does the brexit cause any favours to have another decade of wrangling. the roll out will not in practical. our view my viewers and listeners view as my viewers and listeners in ireland suffering, in northern ireland suffering, they government as they don't have government as you i know a big you know i know that's a big priority though. and priority for you though. and what some compromise? so, what about some compromise? so, for green and red for example, green and red lines, means that any any lines, which means that any any goods intended sale only in
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northern ireland go through a green line, minimal or no checks at all. and also the ecj, the european court of justice only only enters a dispute if referred to by the northern ireland courts. that sounds like a deal to me. well, it looks like a deal to those people who don't necessarily know how these things work in practise. the bottom is, without bottom line is, without the detail, red detail, these green and red lines and we haven't seen the text, as i've said, i wouldn't put any money on being certain that that would work in the first place. the second thing is that the european that regarding the european court and regarding number of eu laws that have been made behind closed by majority vote by the council of ministers in without any involvement whatsoever from anybody , either from the uk or anybody, either from the uk or indeed from northern ireland. is that mess is the absolute the massive democratic deficit is, as we call it, it's a massive democrat vacuum. imagine you've
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got 2 million people in northern ireland. imagine and if you take, for example, manchester, liverpool put together, that's 2 million people. imagine if they all had laws over their heads by this system behind , closed doors this system behind, closed doors by majority vote and they weren't involved in it whatsoever . this is weren't involved in it whatsoever. this is a weren't involved in it whatsoever . this is a massive whatsoever. this is a massive problem and it can't be resolved just waving some magic wand and saying, oh well , there's some saying, oh well, there's some means of trying to ensure that the court of justice is somehow not going to be involved . all not going to be involved. all the evidence is that the way in which the eu always ultimately makes mind up is that they will stick , by the european court of stick, by the european court of justice, as being the key factor in the decisions that are taken now. you've never been the most a fugitive supporter of the prime minister. i mean, he has your support. you're a loyal guy , but you're not a cheerleader for rishi sunak. i don't think you've backed his candidacy in the leadership election, but he's not. he's you know , a smart
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he's not. he's you know, a smart cookie and clearly he has an eye for detail and he's got a political antenna, hasn't he? he's not naive enough to present a deal to the eurosceptic tory backbenchers or indeed the dup that won't wash with them. he's got something . well, that's got something. well, that's a good guess, but actually, i wouldn't bank on it because the reality is that i've said these things are very , very deeply things are very, very deeply rooted. i mean, actually fought and died over the question of whether or not we'd have a free democracy. we were conned into going into the european union in the first place because then the european community i wrote a piece the other day and i pointed out that the common neil, who is the negotiator this actually says in his own report to the then foreign secretary that he didn't grasp the legal the legal, legal framework of the legal, legal framework of the european system. i mean, it was beyond imagining. the european system. i mean, it was beyond imagining . so those was beyond imagining. so those people who are saying that we ought to go back in again, all that there's some other kind of
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deal that could be put on the table, must understand and that this is completely different this is a completely different arrangement what we have in arrangement to what we have in our. mps who decide on our. we have mps who decide on behalf of the electorate, be they labour, conservative, lib dem, whatever they they go into ballot box, they go into the ballot box, they go into the ballot room, they put in their vote and then those decisions are taken by the majority in a given constituency . they those given constituency. they those people are then entitled making the laws of this country in the european union. it's absolutely the other way round . it's made the other way round. it's made behind closed doors by majority vote. and the laws that are be made my have calculated that there's on the order of 450 of these laws that have been passed brexit in relation to northern ireland over the heads of these people. well you can imagine that they really are fed second tied and very angry about this because they've had no say in it whatsoever and unless they come up with a way of being able to
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that they are actually involved , then this democratic vacuum continues. well, is a brexit breakthrough on the cards . continues. well, is a brexit breakthrough on the cards. some doubt there from bill cash. bill cash is going to with me it's a mock meets special. next up, can rishi sunak stop the boats? we'll discuss that with sir bill
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next still with me for a mark mates special is bill cash. let's let's go back to the beginning, sir. bill, thanks for your childhood and your early life shape, your politics. well, i it did. i was brought. fact, i was born on the day at the very time when hitler invaded france . and when hitler invaded france. and on the 10th of may 1940, churchill became prime minister. that day of some extraordinary
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coincidence , as you might say. coincidence, as you might say. but the events that day, it was my mother must have been reeling. my father was a lieutenant doing his artillery training and basically , i mean training and basically, i mean the fact is that the whole of his career he was killed in the war, got military cross duty . war, got military cross duty. the principal fighting for your country, that sort of thing. i was brought up along those lines and when i went to school i had and when i went to school i had a similar kind of background we had seven theses at my school and we're quite a small school with 300 people. we were taught very much self—discipline , duty, very much self—discipline, duty, patriotism and to do the right . patriotism and to do the right. so for practical purposes , think so for practical purposes, think they had quite a big impact . and they had quite a big impact. and then i read i did history read history at oxford ? i did. then history at oxford? i did. then when the constitu national law. so i learned a lot about what useful resources it has . it useful resources it has. it meant that i was doing work. i mean, i was advising quebec , for mean, i was advising quebec, for example, in relation to the
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constitution and all that sort of thing, and you won't go the salt treaty. i did all that. i found wanting all so i'd learned a lot while i was growing up . a lot while i was growing up. and then i went into parliament in 1984, i had an advantage in one sense, which was without ever doing it, that i didn't stand how the mechanics of these things worked and what needed to done. if you wanted to oppose provisions and so on. then they made the most astonishing, i think , in retrospect, and think, in retrospect, and i think, in retrospect, and i think they think that a terrible mistake . in 1985 they put me on mistake. in 1985 they put me on the europeans select and then i saw the whole thing completely clearly . i saw all the detail . clearly. i saw all the detail. by 1986, margaret's olympic error and i put down the sovereign's amendment and, you know , mark, they wouldn't even know, mark, they wouldn't even me to the bases and i got up and remonstrate twice and i was told to sit down. of course, now that wouldn't happen because of what
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we've done . so to cut a long we've done. so to cut a long story short, after that, margaret was assessing ated and then it was over europe, of course. and then after that maastricht rebellion because the creation of european government was what the maastricht treaty was what the maastricht treaty was all about. so that was the beginning . then nis, amsterdam , beginning. then nis, amsterdam, lisbon. then the referendum campaigns and every single one of these was all associated . and of these was all associated. and we set up a maastricht referendum campaign in a place called great college streets in westminster , where we put all westminster, where we put all the briefs together. and every day we'd go in with these piles of briefs. and of course, the whips would look, oh, my god, father, it's not. and the reality was that they couldn't answer the questions. yeah so eurosceptic nicknames eurosceptic rebels nicknames allegedly nicknamed . the allegedly nicknamed. the bastards. yes. by john major. yes, i'm sure that's true. and i'm sure it's true. he said that you and your lawyer will tread carefully. and i think that david cameron might have referred to the erg as sort of like loons or something of
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something of that kind, something of that kind, something in spirit urging. so, something in spirit urging. so, so eurosceptics with previous glee judged to be an obscure minority , sort of just left minority, sort of just left field except that the happened and he well . can i tell you why and he well. can i tell you why we got the referendum them it was because i observe that actually having been turned down in debating the sovereignty which is about who governs this country it's about them . the country it's about them. the democratic question the collusion between two frontbenchers meant that they'd stay in the european union as they reprice the only way it was to get parliament abdicate its decision making process handed over to the people. and that's why i set the maastricht referendum to bypass parliament and get parliament to agree to do it. and that's what david cameron asked a huge number of attempts to get the referendum bill. margaret thatcher's last act in the house of commons, as i recall , was to vote for i recall, was to vote for a
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referendum on maastricht. so for practical purposes , we created practical purposes, we created a step by step approach and that created a sense that this was serious and had to be dealt with . and we all the referendum bill through a nine in 2015 and i always believe we were winners because you knew the one thing thatis because you knew the one thing that is most important about british politics, the british common sense , the british common sense, the british people's sense of identity , the people's sense of identity, the british people's understanding of democracy, i believe in it. and they really understand it. so they didn't take too much of lots of the opinion polls and things do. the thing that they believe is the right thing to do and that how we got it through and that how we got it through and your emotions when you when you i mean you would have woken to the news. you would have been at count somewhere you at a count somewhere when you won news. yeah, won the referendum news. yeah, when left the european union when i left the european union actually referendum i woke up about 230 in the morning and i heard the in sunderland i'd gone to bed earlier because i thought we were going win and i wasn't
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complacent because i was actually going to do to have conceded didn't well the one i am. well that's true but i had actually been asked to go and manage television programmes later in the morning. so i wanted get some sleep before that. wanted get some sleep before that . so i did wanted get some sleep before that. so i did and i woke up and heard the result in sunderland and i went back to sleep again because you could see if we won in some regions then the next day after your day that the days after your emotions having, having campaigned for for decades campaigned for this for decades , well tell me, tell me what went through your mind, how you felt of relief. you have no felt sigh of relief. you have no idea. relief. why some relief? because i believe it was absolutely essential maintain the right of the british people to govern themselves by own elected mps and not have these laws imposed on them . some laws imposed on them. some people think that brexit is a bit of a botched job, including the north island protocol, etc. i know, not perfect, but is it still better than remain ? it's still better than remain? it's absolutely 100% better, but not only that, the real reason why there are uncertainties and
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difficulties is as we speak is because of covid, which costs 400 billion and also the ukraine war which pushed up the cost of living inflation. so people's decisions changed people's discontent about the of living and inflation and all the things that go with that for small businesses in the rest are sort of, as it were, enveloped in a feeling that things aren't being properly. believe me , we've got properly. believe me, we've got the retained eu law bill through and that gets rid of the eu laws . and again, rishi sunak credit for that because he's put that through a it's been a mark me special. i could do a mark dolan tonight special with you and i know our viewers and listeners would it as well. only few would it as well. only a few seconds to. of course. let seconds to. yes, of course. let me tell you, you're as fit as a fiddle. got the energy of fiddle. you've got the energy of a your age. but you a man half your age. but you could be on beach. why aren't you? oh because i've got a job to the job is to look to do. and the job is to look after my constituents. and i pay tribute to stone constituency tribute to my stone constituency association people association and all the people in constituency return me in my constituency return me
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ever 1984, even maastricht was on. they gave me a standing ovation and, a meeting where i had to explain to them why i was really making trouble for the government, my own government . government, my own government. but the bottom line is being backbencher enables you to be able to do things which you can't do if you're a minister. so it's much better to be a backbencher if you want to fight the really big battles on the really issues go. i might really big issues go. i might have a for your next book have a title for your next book the that the world the backbencher that the world sir bill cash a delight to have you on the program. thank you so much. great to see you . i really much. great to see you. i really look forward to our next encounter . lots more to come, encounter. lots more to come, folks, including tomorrow's papers reaction papers with full panel reaction you shortly .
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and it's time for tomorrow's papers . okay we'll put ten
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and it's time for tomorrow's papers. okay we'll put ten p in the metre. it is the papers and of course they hot off the press where shall we start, carl? okay we've got the independents and they lead with the following free school meals for every primary pupil in london. the mayor of london today announce an emergency package to extend free school meals . every primary free school meals. every primary school child in the capital for one year in an effort to help poorer families through cost of living crisis . also, boris living crisis. also, boris slapped down for brexit treachery. tory grandee leads, warnings to ex—pm and allies and also a body found the hunt for missing nicola bulley you've been hearing about that in the headunes been hearing about that in the headlines with tatyana. we'll bnng headlines with tatyana. we'll bring you more on that as we get it. okay next up, we've got the eye newspaper police find body in river near where nicola bulley went missing . also bulley went missing. also controlling inflation, top of priority to fix economy, say
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voters. well, let me tell you the voters are right . shortages the voters are right. shortages mean his lead warship isn't armed. it's another story in the metro. nicola body is found . the metro. nicola body is found. the daily mail missing nicola body found less than a mile from where she vanished . also, kate's where she vanished. also, kate's opera gloves steal a baftas show and the daily there's gold them the birmingham hills are going to get my midlands accent sorted out bronze rush i don't know what any of this means. my lucky strike at secret location . a strike at secret location. a stunned panning prospector found gold dust in birmingham river in a birmingham river. but he say where it is so he can find a massive nuggets don't all rush at once and they a few pages which i'm going to get my panel to help me explain i'm delighted to help me explain i'm delighted to say we've got a fabulous panel tonight reacting to the big stories of the day . so, for big stories of the day. so, for example, we have emma burnell,
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who is a bestselling playwright author and fiscal commentator . author and fiscal commentator. we have emma wolff, author and, tv and radio presenter and a brand new star on mark dolan tonight reem ibrahim, journalist, analyst or commentator. look this is hard to know, isn't it? emma wolf what to in relation to the search nicola bulley the police have found a body been identified, yet , but is identified, yet, but is a tragic, horrific story may reach its conclusion in the next 24 hours. it looks that way it doesn't that one can't join. the other conclusion i can only imagine what the family you just imagine what the family you just imagine them waiting for that call . there's not much one can call. there's not much one can say really . there aren't many say really. there aren't many bodies in rivers and there was just no there was just no there were there were no clues leading anywhere, really. so it just seems like this is probably going be very awful end to going to be a very awful end to a tragic , terrible, sad, sad a tragic, terrible, sad, sad story. emma, half the police
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made a horlicks of . this made a horlicks of. this investigation i it does look rather like it doesn't it? i actually know you set my clothes on the wire or whatnot, so i know it 20 is go. i knew it quite well. my uncle lived there. he moved out 20. what what kind of place is. it's tiny village. it's a really small it's a one bus stop village basically or at least it was very scenic, very scenic, very beautiful. i mean, the countryside gorgeous it countryside is gorgeous and it feels like it's been over , i feels like it's been over, i think by crazy onlookers , people think by crazy onlookers, people coming in to make film, tiktok, videos and stuff like that. and i think that hasn't been well managed by the police. i think to be fair, they didn't expect it, but it's been a time now, it's been ongoing and it hasn't been well managed. and then sort of very old revelations about nicholas billie's power problems that she had that just felt a little bit more like the police were covering their own bums than they giving us the public
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information that we needed . i information that we needed. i don't think we did need to know those about nicola bulley. and now that that probably has come to such a tragic end, i don't think the family needed to be put through that. they made public. mean, i the police public. no, i mean, i the police investigators need to know that information but not us. yeah, absolutely not. i think that i would echo what both emma's have said that this is a hugely tragic story and the fact that this information was made public to begin with, i think is awful but i think also the fact that i mean, a lot of young people that have come along, film and tech talks are just in incredibly insensitive to this iteration. i think that especially when it comes to my generation, we need to humility and we to learn some humility and we need of these need to learn the of these situations , the social media situations, the social media elements of this was unwelcome, wasn't i mean, obviously you can't dictate to people if they've got the technology at their disposal. but people were turning up and doing tick tock, tick tock were filming dances.
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they were filming , you know, they were filming, you know, sort investigative videos. sort of investigative videos. and i just think it's first of all, not only does it potentially tamper with evidence that we can help for possible , that we can help for possible, you know, scene of a crime of absolutely . and that's going to absolutely. and that's going to be, the police should be, you know, the police should have, i think, cordoned off the area instance. area in the first instance. there's partly that blunder, but also some also people need to have some common sense. not go into common sense. do not go into those where there is those areas where there is obviously crime. it's only obviously a crime. it's only insensitive, but physically could actually harm the investigation. think that's a investigation. i think that's a real that wants real problem that everyone wants to themselves at the heart to put themselves at the heart of this story rather than thinking a real family thinking there's a real family here and woman who has here and a real woman who has disappeared, at least and probably has passed on that those those feelings are not about your profile. they're not about your profile. they're not about your profile. they're not about your your sense of yourself at the centre of any story. and i think that's real worry. let's look at the independent now . if i can read independent now. if i can read free school meals for every primary pupil in london, victory
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for the independent newspapers campaign . as the mayor brings in campaign. as the mayor brings in a flagship campaign. as the mayor brings in a flagshi p £130 million scheme. a flagship £130 million scheme. clearly there are deprived who need state support. but what about this blanket provision for all primary school pupils? i mean, not to throw around the word socialist, but it is a socialist policy. it is a blanket approach to every if you want to help the poorest in society, the most vulnerable children that definitely need those free school meals at school, you help them. you school, then you help them. you don't everybody. don't help everybody. essentially is, those essentially what this is, those children that are children of millionaires, children of very middle families, they're middle class families, they're also covered by the also being covered by the taxpayer the taxpayer has to taxpayer and the taxpayer has to foot this taxpayer and the taxpayer has to foot thi s £130 million i foot this £130 million bill. i think it's unaccepted people you've to have talks that you've got to have talks that approach situations. approach these situations. that's why have school approach these situations. thia �*s why have school approach these situations. thia government ve school approach these situations. thia government policy school approach these situations. thia government policy s
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wages. is that mentality or is this important and important this an important and important policy help struggling policy to help struggling families? an important families? it is an important policy . and, know, it's policy. and, you know, it's really, important for really, really important for children children need desperately need high desperately need good, high quality nutrition. we want the state response in feeding kids rather than families which is how it always has been. yeah, but what there are families who cannot feed their children properly i know properly and you know and i know that hungry child is not a that a hungry child is not a healthy child is not a happy child children desperately need good in order to learn good nutrition in order to learn to grow play to concentrate to grow to play to concentrate to grow to play to concentrate to you know , they're at school, to you know, they're at school, for goodness sake. it's obscene . blanket . not disputing the blanket i haven't yeah i haven't, i haven't. i agree him actually that the blanket provision of free school meals i think as long it's done sensitively it should be targeted the lower end of the spectrum . but what of the spectrum. but what i wouldn't want is a situation where some kids you know you censored when you were a kid you were very a school about getting anything for free, being the poor one not being able to go in the school on school holiday . i
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the school on school holiday. i remember all of this with shame from when you from my childhood when you couldn't go on school holidays. it was very clear was and it was very clear was rich and who was they already know who was poor. they already know because trainers. who's because of the trainers. who's got trainers. so i got the best trainers. so i just think long as done and think as long as it's done and everybody the same food but everybody gets the same food but some paying, if you some parents are paying, if you see i mean, that could see what i mean, then that could work. is though, you know, work. this is though, you know, an expansion of the role of the states isn't it? and some would say sets a precedent. emma say it sets a precedent. emma i know. i'll get emails from viewers listeners because viewers and listeners because we've the past we've debated this in the past who say that they've who will say that they've struggled in the past financially, still managed to feed kids. this very, feed their kids. this is a very, very difficult and it's expanding it for a year a year dunng expanding it for a year a year during which we know that at best inflation going to go down to, what, 8, 6? that's still very high for a lot of people . very high for a lot of people. we're not just talking about people who are on benefits, people who are on benefits, people who are in work of struggling a great deal using and i, i think graeme said something quite interesting is i don't want to throw around word
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socialist this is a socialist. this one is labour party membership socialist party sadiq khanisin membership socialist party sadiq khan is in it has been elected on a socialist plus 130 year old , £30 million that could be old, £30 million that could be spent tackling crime and making london's knife. crime has actually dropped by 13% in london, so he's clearly doing it's too high any of knife crime, but he's clearly there is work being done . yeah you work being done. yeah you mentioned it's just for you got family i mean i don't want to write about the stigma. yeah this is the there's an awful lot of research that shows that actually having these kind of a blanket policies really do kids across the board that would be right the stigma saying oh, i'm the kid on free school meals you know what kids can be you remember what that very cruel. no one wants to be. i'm old enough to with national health classes the classes yeah they do the laughing stock i'm still wearing. i'm pleased say. wearing. i'm pleased to say. very well. i'm too vain to hit my glasses on the television. you're gorgeous, but i want to
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cover any of that face. but listen, only thing that the listen, the only thing that the flip side to that is that, you know, extra burden on know, this is an extra burden on the state with the countries already mentioned already broke. and you mentioned it's a year. but it's it's just for a year. but it's it's just for a year. but it's it be very unpopular if it would be very unpopular if you withdraw that at all you were withdraw that at all i would keep it forever. but then i'm a socialist and a very proud one then you earlier you one and then you earlier you just said, oh, it's only for a year because it is only for absolute . but i mean, i think absolute. but i mean, i think this the year to start this is the year to start introducing of thing introducing this kind of thing more as a big state and there's nothing more permanent than a temporary government program like reagan . baby like like ronald reagan. baby like drop starting from tomorrow as fascinating story co op will be removing best before dates from hundreds of fresh products but worry not encrypted codes will be used instead to make sure that everything sold is fresh. but it does beg the question . but it does beg the question. those best before dates . are those best before dates. are they a bit of a con? are they a scam? do you care about them ? i scam? do you care about them? i ignore them. i just opened the packet and smell . wait, it's packet and smell. wait, it's very import to differentiate
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because i had to do a food hygiene standards certificate because i volunteered cook at a charity once a week . there is charity once a week. there is a huge difference used by which you really do have to pay attention to because you will get all sorts of botulism, what have you if you don't intend to do, use by date and best before is essentially a device rather than a rule . so best before is than a rule. so best before is if you have it by this date, it will taste fresher and but you can absolutely eat it two three days like for example apples are absolutely for most apples absolutely for most apples absolutely following the seven days after their best before actually if you wait to you get cider which is even better it's exactly an apple that's no good. it'll tell you be fluffy, it will be soft. it will be what? whatever. yeah the levels of food waste in this are absolutely shocking. we need to use our common sense. people need to smell. i would agree with things like meat and fish, which i wouldn't go anyway, which i wouldn't go anyway, which that meat which would have used that meat and would do need some
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and fish would do need some indication so that people can see that. but if your see and know that. but if your broccoli really and broccoli going really yellow and it's bits fluffy mould on, broccoli going really yellow and it's know, s fluffy mould on, broccoli going really yellow and it's know, it'stfy mould on, broccoli going really yellow and it's know, it's off. mould on, broccoli going really yellow and it's know, it's off. ifould on, broccoli going really yellow and it's know, it's off. if thei on, broccoli going really yellow and it's know, it's off. if the milk you know, it's off. if the milk smells high . my father used to smells high. my father used to say, the sniff test. say, you know, the sniff test. yeah, yoghurt stuff that is yeah, yoghurt stuff like that is apps fine for a week or apps will be fine for a week or two weeks after. the point is that you can when you smell that you can tell when you smell it, you taste it and you it, when you taste it and you can tell is an individual and you know what you're doing in. my look we've got heaps my family look we've got heaps of tea the fridge of egyptian tea in the fridge and of that has sell by and none of that has a sell by date. but we smell it, we taste it and know what it's like. it and we know what it's like. and actually i mean. my family's got a very much say not got a very much say waste, not what kind sort of principle. what kind of sort of principle. my family, my father would absolutely threw absolutely die. i ever threw a suit was perfectly good. so suit that was perfectly good. so i you i think we've i think you know i think we've just to clear about that. just got to be clear about that. and individuals know and people individuals know they're give they're doing and it means give it two year old. oh yeah it to your two year old. oh yeah . anyway you test it to the king. you're not sure it you give it to the baby first. see happens. just just feed it to
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him. yeah, well, the thing is, those babies are pretty hardy. i mean, i for our first son, we boiling. sterilised oh, i did that for a while. yeah and then we got to the second one. some of us said, wait a minute, babies walking around on the floor shoving. something that why actually why you bought actually putting that around lampposts that mouth around lampposts where have urinated all where dogs have urinated all oven where dogs have urinated all over. exactly i mean, i did want to also read we are a little bit sort of diva like these days because you know back in the day, unless it smelled like it was going to kill you, you ate it. i understand. got to be careful with things like shellfish, pork products. they can be pretty nasty, but beef is something that can just sit there really spoil . there. it doesn't really spoil. my grandfather used to keep butter in a cupboard. well there you go. and i think that actually nowadays, potentially this is a potentially this is a generational thing where a lot of people in my generation i'm 20 tend to sort of have it. and i'm sorry, i tend to sort of like chop . i know people in my
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like chop. i know people in my generation tend to maybe be a little bit more spoilt when it comes to food standards . but i comes to food standards. but i think my father would say in the day we did anything as long as it smelt okay. and then i think day we did anything as long as i think that nowadays it's actually becoming trendy it's, not waste food because it's again a way sort of again sort of in a way sort of so a justice warrior you so a justice warrior thing. you start there's these start out now, there's these apps, sort of get apps, so you get to sort of get the from shops that have the food from shops that have been left over people in your generation all the food in people your generation, out people in your generation, out cafes western. i was cafes in western. when i was a teenager, couldn't to teenager, you couldn't you go to mcdonald's once month as treat mcdonald's once month as a treat try the good news is a friend of mine says if you get food poisoning just think of the weight loss. absolutely i tell you, it's a great benefit lining. yeah. loving that flat tummy. let me tell you, after i've had gastroenteritis so i do just if you're not well, go and see gp. if you can get an appointment . we eat wallpapers appointment. we eat wallpapers next. don't go anywhere .
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ever the flood of emails in relation to my interview with sir bill cash, long standing tory mp and of course eurosceptic. some people characterise him as the godfather of brexit and. this from gillian mark van—tam take interview with sir bill words goodness gracious me , sorry. now goodness gracious me, sorry. now somebody has said let's , see i somebody has said let's, see i hopefully i've pinned this one but yes right mark i enjoy your broadcasting bring back sir bill from a viewer in ulster thank you for that rte michael thinks i've been pretty tough on prince andrew. that was the of my take it to end looks like he's going to be evicted from his it to end looks like he's going to be evicted from hi s £30 to be evicted from his £30 million royal lodge mansion in windsor because you're not going to get enough cash to maintain it i don't think you'll be
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homeless but michael has said mark, you're rather unfair on the prince . don't forget, is the prince. don't forget, he is a hero of falklands. michael, thank for that. we do love to balance the debate this program. how about this sell by dates used by dates. adrian hi mark my mum kept butter in the cupboard, then the fridge at no microwaves . mum didn't ever cook curries or bolognaise traditional english. or bolognaise traditional engush.can or bolognaise traditional english. can you even that now. well on this show you can adrian and lucky you sounds like you were well nourished in your childhood . now let's get to childhood. now let's get to another story castleford tigers player . joe westerman was caught player. joe westerman was caught on camera in an alleyway behind performing a sex act on a woman. the only a community see the onune the only a community see the online audience are calling for him to be sacked . the club have him to be sacked. the club have seen fit to not him of his duties. there was an investigation, but it begs the question should your private life affect your job and i know life affect yourjob and i know you love this story, so take it
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away. i don't know. now i just remembering milk on windowsills. you want the milk that sells classic. the students of having a carrier bag with your butter and your milk hanging out the window in winter. it is holding out . yeah. when i was at school, out. yeah. when i was at school, milk would be gone off in summer and fresh in the winter. it was weather related. also, you had a milkman then and they would put the milk in a glass bottle on your front step. and by about 9:00 it was just going to burn by. well, let's now talk about nookie. in the alleyway. i don't think that he should have done this because not from a moralistic point of view, but it's a public order offence to commit a sex acts in the street . do we have any more details? what was he doing? well, we know he was on knees, but what if i just said, well, i think we can get does educate and it's get does sex educate and it's good news is these two have been talking about sex all. the what i've actually spent the afternoon doing some sketches of what happened . i'll check them
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what happened. i'll check them out for you. love your french women. he's real . was being women. he's real. was being outside a greggs and not in it because it's a great shop, isn't it? he was thrown back of greggs. why is it always by age where the real pleasure is not the alleyway? it's the past. it's the steak bake. it's when combine the two mark, that's when you really on the role of being in the role afterwards. disgraced greggs like that. senousl disgraced greggs like that. serious i mean, it's just i think, look, i don't think it has anything to do with the facts with his job. i don't think that cheating on his wife necessarily negates the fact that probably good that he's probably a very good rugby i think what rugby player. but i think what it is just him and actually i it do is just him and actually i think it sort of it's more of a cultural awareness thing. maybe we to think anything we have to think of anything else that sex act else other than that sex act outside when he's playing outside greggs when he's playing when playing players when he's playing the players playing against him won't be distracted by what he's done he'll able to do his job he'll be able to do his job perfectly well. i mean, i think really it kind of depends on the job, right? if you're a policeman, you probably shouldn't be things shouldn't be having things happen way where it's
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happen in a way where it's illegal. but most the time it's just be grown ups , this stuff just be grown ups, this stuff and, you know, i think people have a sex. people have enjoyable things that they do all over the place . i know i do all over the place. i know i do . it should doesn't stop me being any good at job in the day do you go is it it's or is it a little bit more up—market to mo'nchengladbach all the this place is a mini roundabout. well well mini roundabout. does that say about him he was actually six foot four. but there you go. well what's wrong with a bed too big for, you know, you just can't wait until get home. so you've had an encounter on a roundabout. yes. all right. were there any crashes as it happened? it was two. and thankfully there was one else around for the exotic lifestyle you've got, we have seen schoolteachers and the like lose their jobs for an onlyfans account and. you know, onlyfans is a subscription service in which they, you know, perhaps perhaps somebody models may for
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nudity, maybe even sex. but what's that got to do with you being a maths teacher, i take it. why do you it does? it. why do you think it does? and actually look i'm pretty socially conservative. i think that shouldn't have that maybe you shouldn't have any account . you would like any fans account. you would like to good role model in to be a good role model in society, especially women , i society, especially for women, i think, commodification of think, the commodification of sex may be a separate conversation. however, it doesn't anything with doesn't have anything to do with job, think that actually job, and i think that actually doesn't away from how good doesn't take away from how good of may not of a teacher you may or may not be. so think that no nothing be. so i think that no nothing you do outside of work should affect your role, so long as it's not sort legal or you know, what that what about politicians that were so regularly or so drunk so drunk regularly or so drunk that to be walked to that that have to be walked to that cabs that we have to tell cabs and that we have to tell the whole group? no, because i'm worried about them going into work the day that it is work the next day that it is actually affecting same actually affecting work. same thing teachers who having thing with teachers who having sex behind greggs , sex in alleyways behind greggs, whatever. you guys will do it. i don't want them going in to work to teach my the next day, for example, they've been example, when they've been up all doing things an all night doing things in an alleyway , i raise a good point.
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alleyway, i raise a good point. i'm more worried about public figures teachers, you name it, being drunk and taking drugs . being drunk and taking drugs. but i think what you do with your loins is your business. but they go very briefly , a 2019 they go very briefly, a 2019 paddington bear, $0.50 pence coin could fetch you massive 5000 pounds a 50 p coin paddington bear worth and a half grand. well, apparently people have been finding it in the back of their sofas. so it begs the question, what is the strangest you've found down the back of the sofa ? you found anything the sofa? you found anything good down back of the sofa good down the back of the sofa and a piece bread down and found a piece of bread down the of the today, all the back of the sofa. today, all sorts things. let me sorts of things. let me get a sense, an exhausted, overworked mum you probably ate. no, i didn't the food is didn't eat. the food is definitely i many things definitely i find so many things tied to the sofas. it's really annoying me really funny money if . anything? no money. okay, if. anything? no money. okay, well , let me if. anything? no money. okay, well, let me have a quick look, see if there's anything gb news sofa. i'm looking. nigel farage, his aftershave. coconut oil is down my mark by my covers . your down my mark by my covers. your coconut oil . what the heck is
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coconut oil. what the heck is this? what is that ? no, i say this? what is that? no, i say it's a spider. oh, look at that i found that. now the it needs a name so let's call it a sturgeon the spider. you got wee nicola. isn't she gorgeous . oh you go isn't she gorgeous. oh you go see it full of surprises. oh oh did i just freak out . did i just freak out. arachnophobia has got israel. that's amazing . it is. it arachnophobia has got israel. that's amazing. it is. it is so cool. that's amazing. it is. it is so cool . it's a that's amazing. it is. it is so cool. it's a real i'm not. can you take away i don't that's natural notes. oh my panel freaked out but brilliant tonight thank you so much for the two emma's and rain and to you for your company and your email is. i'm back on friday at headliners is .
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