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breaking, news, tonight, the mystery surrounding the sudden death of music icon, michael jackson, intensifies. questions mounting as to his sudden death. his $500 million empire, and more important, custody of the star's three little children. after murder charges leveled in the death of jackson, his family publicly claiming jackson was murdered. bombshell tonight. did police seize evidence from jackson's bedroom to make a case of homicide? reports police seized a bedside oxygen tank, a bag of liquid from an i.v. pole, also at
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jackson's bedside. police find multiple tanks of oxygen in the bedroom and more tanks empty in the garage. and tonight, as jackson took his dying breath, was he robbed of nearly $2 million and a cache of jewels? does this support the theory jackson got a lethal dose of diprivan, then went into a cardiac arrest just 30 minutes later? this as insiders claim jackson tried to kill himself for years, often carrying a suicide note on his person, writing dozens of such notes and then tearing them up, traveling the world in search of drus and gdrugs and g them. trusting only his bodyguards and a patchwork entourage to keep it all out of the press. tmz stands by the report this is now a homicide case as the dea's office still denies it.
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reports emerge, dozens, repeat, dozens of doctors being probed over jackson's death. and was there a massive cover p cover-up? we learn a high-tech security system allegedly monitoring every inch of the home, inside and out, including jackson's private living quarters. that secret video of jackson's final moments, gone. sources also claim a huge black leather bag full of drugs, an i.v. pole, syringes, and i.v. bags gone, this as we learn of an alleged chilling plot to steal jackson's body. reports the body now hidden and protected by armed guards to stop would-be body snatchers. and tonight, just-released video of jackson himself going up in flames during his '84 pepsi commercial.
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significance, was this the inception of the star's addiction to prescription drugs, an addiction that culminating in a second autopsy, revealing fresh needle marks in jackson's neck. that's right, his neck. other veins riddled with track marks. many actually collapsing from i.v. use. his skin, paper white. his body, emachuateed. all in contrast to private video of a dress rehearsal just hours before his death. drugs banned for consumer use, only found behind locked doors in the operating room, found in the home. jackson reportedly ingesting up to 10,000 pills in just six months, including 40 xanax a night. reports he even wanted to be put under with an i.v. drip for days on end, essentially lying there like a living corpse for up to 72 hours at a time. and tonight, will janet jackson beat the will?
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the will naming 79-year-old mother, katherine, guardian of jackson's three children. is sister, janet, now set to take custody? alternatives, father joe jackson he wants the children on the stage under the name the jackson three. jackson himself often revealing physical abuse, beatings at the hands of his father, always keeping his children far away, but now joe jackson boasting he will raise the children. and in a stunning statement actually blames 79-year-old grandmother katherine for all the beatings. has jackson's worst nightmare come true? and of course, tonight, the payoff. is a deal in the works where biomom, debbie rowe, drops her custody battle for jackson's three children? payoff, $4 million for rowe to just go away? rowe vehemently insisting it's not true. the fda announcing it may classify diprivan has a controlled substance. hey, washington, you're a day late and a dollar short, again! as vultures circle jackson's
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dead body, the fate of his three children unknown. >> we're not investigating the doctors, we're investigating mr. michael jackson's death. >> there are reports that this case is being treated like a homicide. this is from a los angeles d.a.'s office, basically contradicting that. here's a quote, it's still lapd's investigation. they have not filed a case, so therefore this isn't considered a homicide. >> i am doing well and i am strong. as you may already know, after my tour ended, i remain out of the country undergoing treatment for a dependency on pain medication. this medication was initially prescribed to cede the excruciating pain i was suffering after reconstructive surgery on my scalp. >> that ill-fated pepsi commercial in 1984. michael jackson's doing the pepsi commercial and the pyrotechnic go off too soon. michael jackson's hair catches fire. >> that pepsi commercial created such a painful situation, obviously, as his scalp was
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scalded. the most important part of that is that he was prescribed demerol to mitigate the pain. >> this event was considered the biggest event of his adult life. the implications of it, not just physically, but emotionally, and his life really did change after that. and tonight, a couple with 16 children, 12 adopted, many of them handicapped, murdered in their own home. part of it caught on video. we have the video. the suspects in full ninja garb invade the home. who gunned down this beautiful couple, leaving 16 children orphaned? tonight, police charge a blond beauty with accessory to murder. and eight suspect, pamela long wiggins, has been arrested and charged with accessory after
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the fact. >> they're not really saying a whole lot about what her role is, if they found something at her house. >> a lot of wild rumors float around, especially about any investigation as complex as this one, involving all the players that it involves. >> pamela, you've been charged with accessory to murder after the fact. >> investigators believe she was very close with leonard gonzalez jr., as his landlord and a friend. >> we know that she was associated with leonard patrick gonzalez jr. up until the day of the murders. >> what do you have to say for yourself? >> it is a combination of friendships, casual business relationships that brought this group together. >> did you know the billings were going to die? >> the investigators have found some key evidence in the killing of byrd and melanie billings. >> this is the vehicle that wiggins was riding in when she came to visit with investigators. >> apparently it was parked near the mansion before the robbery happened. >> a safe was removed from the billings' residence at the time of the murders.
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>> we've recovered the safe. we've recovered several guns, one of which we believe is the murder weapon. this was a home invasion robbery. think it is as simple as that in terms of the motive and what occurred. good evening. i'm nancy grace. i want to thank you for being with us tonight. the mystery surrounding the sudden death of music superstar michael jackson intensifies. >> the lapd has now come forward and said, this is not a homicide investigation. we are not considering this a homicide investigation. >> we might learn what caused michael jackson's tragic death. his life cut short at just the age of 50. any time now, toxicology results expected to be released. was his death an accident? how many of his doctors are being investigated? how many were associated with him? >> see, the lapd hasn't said it's not a homicide, they haven't said it is. they said they are open to looking at this as a homicide, if diprivan is in his system, if it was at the house, if they
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find a doctor who's responsible for giving it to him, because you don't administer it to yourself, then you could have a homicide investigation and you could potentially have charges. >> video obtained by "us weekly" of the 1994 pepsi commercial that went horribly wrong. it was the sixth take and the pyrotechnic went off too early, causing sparks to hit jackson's hair and explode into flames. >> he clearly has, you know, a large bald spot and doctors have spoken out since then and said that he had to undergo multiple surgeries, multiple treatments. >> he even looked back on that time, i think, and noted that that was when he began using the demerol. michael jackson had legitimate pain and he needed medication for that pain. unfortunately, the medication then overtook him and he became addicted to it. >> i am doing well and i am strong. as you may already know, after my tour ended, i remain out of the country undergoing treatment for a dependency on pain medication. this medication was initially prescribed to cede excruciating pain i was suffering after
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recent reconstructive surgery on my scalp. >> we are taking your calls live. tmz standing by its report that this is, in fact, now a homicide case. the district attorney's office still denying it right now. here is very disturbing and graphic video of what could be the inception of michael jackson's addiction to prescription drugs. you are seeing jackson in his '84 pepsi commercial, where he literally catches on fire, apparently unaware he's on fire and continuing to dance and film the commercial. then trying to spin the fire out. you see him coming out, surrounding by people, trying to help him. and when he emerges, his scalp is actually burned down to the skin. incredibly painful. there you see jackson coming up, off the ground. this is that '84 pepsi
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commercial that many people claim is the inception of his addiction to prescription drugs. did it ultimately kill him? and who helped him? that clip is obtained by "us weekly" of the pepsi commercial, showing just how severe his injuries were when his hair caught on fire. and let's see how they morphed it into the actual commercial. let's take a look at the actual commercial, liz. everyone, we are taking your calls live. as we hear reports this is now a homicide investigation. take a look. ♪ ♪ you're grabbing imagine on the run ♪ >> this is the actual pepsi commercial that aired after the burning. ♪
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my son. i'm here to celebrate my son. because he was the largest entertainer in the world. ♪ don't matter if you're black or white ♪ >> not letting him play with other kids, not letting him get a driver's license, all the things he did to restrict him. because to joe jackson, michael jackson is dollar signs. ♪ you know it's thriller >> he didn't get recognition. and i'm sad to say that this recognition came during his death. >> if i am guilty of anything, it is of giving all that i have -- all that i have to give to help children all over the world. it is of loving children of all ages and races. it is of gaining sheer joy from seeing children with their innocent and smiling faces. it is of enjoying through them the childhood that i missed myself. we are taking your calls live. straight out to mary margaret, senior news editor with
8:16 pm mary margaret, what can you tell me about reports that police found an i.v. pole beside the bed, empty oxygen tanks, a lot of them in the garage, oxygen tanks in his private living quarters, and that they actually confiscated a bag of liquid that was hooked up to that i.v. pole beside his bed? >> nancy, that's exactly right. it was a really eerie scene in michael jackson's bedroom. it was more like a hospital room than an actual bedroom. like you said, there were multiple used oxygen tanks in the quarter. there were pills strewn -- and pill bottles strewn across the room. there was an empty pill tray that we've heard of near the bedside. and like you said, there was that i.v. with a bag, which the police confiscated as well. >> to dr. bill hillabeck, thank you for being with us. in contrast to what richard herman has just blurted out, i
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doubt very seriously that michael jackson's responsible for putting fresh track marks on his neck. that would be virtually impossible to do, to shoot yourself up in the neck. >> yeah. i -- you know, shooting yourself in the neck, i mean, people who are drug abusers, they try to find any type of vein they can. when they stop, when they can't find anymore veins, sometimes they'll pop it underneath their skin. for someone to find a vein in their neck, it's not uncommon, i've seen it before, but that's a desperate measure. >> extremely desperate. and penny douglas fir, how would you explain the fact that there's a doctor living there that, according to reports, shows up in the evening and leaves every morning? i mean, that fits hand and glove with the theory that he would be out with an i.v. drip all night on diprivan. somebody was giving this to him. he wasn't injecting himself.
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>> nancy, i think the doctor was hired by the insurance company and not by michael jackson. that was a part of the deal with the 50 concerts, and i disagree with mr. herman. i think, if anything, i think it was an accidental overdose, because michael jackson lived for his children. i think if he thought he was going to die, he would have made better arrangements for his children. >> penny douglas fir, you just said that a doctor was there for the insurance purposes. now, wasn't that doctor to safeguard his health, to guarantee he would perform? >> he was, nancy, but the doctor's not with him 24 hours. so michael could take other things. >> why was he there just at night, when jackson wanted to get knocked out on diprivan? >> well, apparently that's when the insurance company wanted him there, or else michael wanted him there at night, but i don't believe this doctor necessarily gave him the diprivan. he could have had the diprivan long before this doctor was ever involved. this doctor may not have known about it. >> okay, susan moss, that
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argument is just disingenuous, because when police get there, when everybody gets there, there's an i.v. pole with a bag full of liquid hanging on it beside the bed. there's oxygen tanks all around the room, stacked up in the garage. we know you have to be administered oxygen when you're on diprivan. it's like you're being put out for major surgery, for pete's sake. if someone was monitoring him, he was drugged until he died. >> absolutely! it wasn't just thugs who gave him these drugs, it was doctors who took a hippocratic oath not to do any harm, but instead one of these doctors or maybe more gave diprivan. now that's a drug that you only use in surgery. the fact that he was given diprivan and not under a surgical situation, i think, is criminal. >> to myron hawkins, everyone,
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exclusively, the first cousin of michael jackson, he was there for the private family service for michael jackson. sir, thank you for being with us. tell me how the family is reacting to what many people think is a foregone conclusion. he's dead. he wasted away taking these drugs and getting drugs through all these people for years. >> mr. hawkins? >> yes. at this time, i would like to make a comment regarding that. the family is just waiting to hear the final results. i can't comment on that, because i don't know michael's doctors or i can't say as to what he was really doing before he died. all i know is that michael -- we're still in shock here in phoenix regarding his death and quite upset about it. we are still grieving. ♪
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there have been many disgusting statements made recently concerning allegations of improper conduct on my part. these statements about me are totally false. as i have maintained from the very beginning, i am hoping for a speedy end to this horrifying, horrifying experience to which i have been subjected. i shall not in this statement respond to all of the false allegations being made against me, since my lawyers have advised me that this is not the proper forum in which to do that. >> this accident took place back in 1984, here in los angeles.
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michael jackson later blamed his addiction to pain medication on this accident. and when you watch the video, it is very clear that, indeed, this accident was very serious. >> reporter: the video obtained by "us weekly" shows michael jackson's hair on fire, but as you can see, jackson doesn't seem to notice, until people surround him. the first one there was jackson's longtime friend, mikko brando, son of actor, marlon brando. >> i just went up to him, put my hands, shook his head, sent him down to the ground and tried to do the best i could. >> reporter: you can see as jackson gets up, his head is significantly burned, down to the scalp. >> he initially felt a very hot area and couldn't distinguish whether it was the hot lights or something was happening. and after a second or two, he felt the intense onset of pain, fell to the ground and several people came to put out the fire and apply ice to his head. >> reporter: days after the
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incident, jackson unsuccessfully tried to get the footage released. his record label, cbs records, released this photo. ♪ pepsi eventually ended up releasing the ad, which featured jackson and his brothers. jackson would later claim the accident and subsequent medical treatment led to an addiction to prescription drugs. >> as you may already know, after my tour ended, i remain out of the country undergoing treatment for a dependency on pain medication. this medication was initially prescribed to feed excruciating pain i was suffering after recent reconstructive surgery on my scalp. >> reporter: possible drug use is a part of the ongoing investigation into jackson's death. what, if any drugs were in jackson's system at the time of his death are still an unanswered question. the l.a. coroner's office continues to investigate his death. they say they could have definitive results within the next week. out to natisha lance, our producer, standing by there in
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l.a. natisha, what can you tell me about reports that in his dying breath, he was robbed of about $2 million and a cache of jewels? >> right. this is coming from la toya jackson. what she's saying, michael jackson always kept a certain amount of money on his property, and when they got to the house and started moving things out of the house, that money and those jewels were all gone. >> and what about the video? apparently this $100,000 a month rental home he was living in with his children had very elaborate high-tech security system, every inch of the place was under video monitoring, including his living quarters, but reports are there's a gap in the video of the time just before his death, natisha. >> right, nancy. reportedly, there was this video all around, in and about the area in the house where michael jackson was staying. it caught his collapse on this video. however, the video is missing along with a suitcase that also contained another i.v. pole,
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more drugs, and also syringes. >> out to the line. cheryl in illinois. hi, cheryl. >> caller: hi, nancy. thanks for taking my call. always such an honor to speak with you. >> likewise. thanks for calling in, dear. what's your question? >> caller: when michael received that horrific burn and was put on all that demerol, which was much needed at the time, but don't these doctors have an obligation to discuss with the patient about the dangers of these narcotics and addiction and develop some type of plan to help these people get off the drugs, you know, be it reduction or detoxing, and then follow up with them? >> to dr. bill hallbeck, how about it? what's the duty of these doctors? >> i totally agree. burn patients really do need these medications and they're receiving them intravenousously in the hospital and they need to go home on very strong medications to prevent this pain or to control the pain. the issue is that it's very
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difficult and it's a long process, especially with his burn. he had to have several surgeries, so he's on these medications for several weeks to several months and it's an addiction, a psychological addiction as well as a physical dependence. so it's a very difficult situation and they should be telling him about this possibility, but most people that are on prescription pain medications don't have this problem. you know, prescription pain medications, antibiotics are the most frequently prescribed medications in the u.s., but it's very available. >> you know, that brings to mind this question. to dr. bethany marshall, psych analyst and author of "deal breakers," i understand what dr. holubek is saying about around the time the burns occurred, but dr. bethany marshall, this is 20 plus years later and doctors are still agreeing to feed him dope
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like it's candy corn? what is their duty? and we know that there are dozens, repeat, dozens of doctors, that's at least 24 doctors, now part of a criminal probe, dr. bethany. >> their duty is to protect the patient and provide safe and reliable medical care, but what drug addicts do, we've heard the term doctor shopping. they'll go to one doctor, and especially if they're particularly wealthy and powerful, they'll say to the doctor, oh, you're so wonderful, and no one else has ever helped me like you, and you're the best. and they seduce the doctor with money and compliments. and that's why these doctors should not practice alone. they should always practice with partners in a treatment setting when it comes to drug addicts -- >> dr. bethany, you're making excuses for doctors doping up an addict. that he, jackson, seduced them. they're the doctors. it's their duty. >> well, explanation is not the same as excuse.
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but you have doctors with greed. i mean, look, he surrounded himself by people who have significant greed and that's why he was able to get these drugs. and look, there was greed at the end, jewels stolen at his house. no, it's not an excuse, but these doctors, it was definitely malpractice. >> to myron hawkins, joining us exclusively tonight out of phoenix, arizona. he is jackson's first cousin, he was there at the private memorial with just the family. myron, tell me about jackson as a youth, growing up, when he became a star, what went wrong? >> well, nothing went wrong. michael, basically -- >> well -- >> well, from my standpoint as a first cousin, i lived there in the house with them for a while. we lived -- after that, my mother and father moved out. we lived, right -- in fact, right around the block from them. during that time, michael as a kid, he was born in what, '59,
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we had already established a good relationship with our parents, being obedient, what normal kids do. michael was very playful. i have a photo here in 2003, we had a family get-together at the neverland ranch. i don't know if you have that photo there, nancy. >> i do. we're showing a lot of the exclusive photos that you have given us. okay. >> check this out. >> myron hawkins, but is it true, myron, that joe jackson actually took a belt to you too? >> oh, see, well the way you phrase that, nancy, i like to put it this way. we all, at that time, the belt was used to discipline. it wasn't used as an abusive weapon. my uncle and my mother disciplined us all. we were disobedient, that happened. a lot of the times the issue would be coming home straight from school. joe had five boys there, he was a black man working in the mills and sometimes that called for strict discipline. michael was one of the children that didn't believe a child
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should be struck with a belt or anything like that. but he wasn't abused. >> why did he take a belt to you, myron? >> sometimes if i acted up -- my mother took a belt to me. >> i'm asking you about joe jackson. he was not your father. what did you do, if anything, to deserve that? >> let me put it that way, nancy. at that time, families lived together and the grandmother and the aunt had permission from those parents to do that. if my mother babysited katie's kid -- >> are you going to tell me what you did or not? look, my grandmother helped raise me, so i get it. i'm asking you why somebody, not your parent, took a belt to you? can you answer it? >> i'm not going to go into specifics, but for being disobedie disobedient, not maybe obeying a matter of cleaning up your room. you tell the kids to do something. ♪
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shocking, never-before-seen footage of michael jackson, the accident that really changed his life. we know about it. filming a pepsi commercial back in 1984. >> he had a fire on his head. his scalp was scalded badly and he was in deep pain. so, initially, his prescription drug situation started out in a very innocent way. it was really important to him how he looked.
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i mean, as a celebrity and as a person who, unfortunately, wasn't really secure in his own skin, nonetheless, you know, he felt that he had to look good. and so his visual image was very important to him. >> the pain associated with burns is just horrific. it's the nerve endings, it's the hair, it's the skin. then you have grafts that you have to go through. it's a very -- it's a long process, an arduous process. >> this was something sthafs, you know, did not heal quickly or well or totally. >> out to firpo carr, thank you for being with us. what can you tell us, have any of the family members talked to you about the status of the investigation? >> well, you know, what i have is information that the family members may not have. that's because i was with lapd for about ten years, so i know the individuals who are involved, pretty much, in the investigation. for instance, kyle jackson, who's the commander of the robbery/homicide division of the lapd. but, of course, he's not giving
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up any information, and neither will his investigators do that, because they want to do it properly. and of course, chief bratton runs a tight ship. he's done a great job and they're tight lipped about everything. >> mr. carr, do you believe this is in fact a homicide investigation? tmz is standing by their report that it is. >> in my own personal opinion, i would say if robbery/homicide division is looking into it, then that is probably the case. we know for sure that michael jackson, i would assume, that almost seems like a contradiction of terms, he died at the hands of another. that seems to be the case. so sooner or later, we will find out, and i think it's going to be sooner more than later, exactly what happened. >> with me is firpo carr, jackson family friend, former family spokesperson. and to vince velazquez, homicide detective, vince, what do you make of it? the d.a.'s office still insisting it's not a homicide investigation. do you believe it? >> i do. that's not unusual, nancy. it's a death investigation until
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we can -- or they can establish, perhaps, motive and intent, it's not going to be a homicide. maybe manslaughter. all the evidence collecting, all that's going to be presented to the district attorney's office and the medical community and the medical experts are going to make a determination as to whether this doctor -- >> mr. velazquez, are you a jd, a lawyer, as well as a hostage negotiator? >> no, ma'am. >> then why would you believe that this is just a voluntary manslaughter charge, when obviously someone had shot him up in the neck? >> in this state, we have felony murder. in california, i don't know if they have felony murder. >> well put, well put. >> vince velazquez joining us, i want to show you that video that many people believe is the inception of michael jackson's addiction to prescription painkillers. this is the '84 pepsi commercial. there he is, many of these takes were done, i believe this was
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the sixth or seventh take and the hot lighting actually catches his hair on fire. this clip obtained by "us weekly." it's that pepsi commercial taping. it shows how severe jackson's injuries were. there he goes down. he was under intense medication while in the hospital and stayed on that regimen or a similar one after going home. many people say he never recovered from this '84 incident. extremely disturbing and graphic video. i want to go back to myron hawkins, first cousin of michael jackson. he wants to clarify, it wasn't a belt that jackson's father beat him with, it was a strap. do you think that makes it better? >> nancy, are you -- is that -- are you there? >> i am. >> okay, good. you keep stressing on that belt. i just want to make this fact known. my uncle did not abuse no one. he did not abuse me. we were disciplined. my mother whooped me with a
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belt, but didn't abuse me. no one in michael's family ever went to the hospital with injuries -- >> that is not what michael jackson says. >> i know what he says. what michael said was from his standpoint as a child. michael did not believe children should be struck or any type of discipline like that. okay? but anyone in america, millions of americans out there watching what i'm saying know that the normal procedure was if you were disobeyed, a lot of times a strap was used -- >> say what?! not everybody agrees with you. >> that's your opinion, okay? >> okay, and that is yours, myron. >> okay. that's your opinion, but you're trying to accuse my uncle of being abusive -- >> no, i'm not accusing anybody -- >> oh, yes, you are. >> i'm saying what michael jackson said on air. >> and i know what my cousin said. i lived with him and i know what he said. and i know his views. and his view on discipline, he did not believe that that type of discipline should be used on children.
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>> i heard you the first three times. >> okay. that's his opinion. >> let's go to a child lawyer, susan moss. what about it? >> i love when they say, joe jackson never beat him, except when he beat him, with a strap or a belt or some other apparatus. a beating is a beating. >> okay, you guys -- >> and to the other lawyers. penny douglas fir and richard herman, you know, there is not going to be any criminal charges against joe jackson, anything that did happen, myron hawkins saying it didn't happen, happened many, many years ago. it can never be resuscitated as a charge. yes, no, richard herman? >> no. but look at the psychological damage on michael of the beatings he took with switches and belts and straps at the hands of his father. >> penny? >> nancy, i have to say, i understand what his cousin is saying. i grew up in south carolina. i've been in many churches where i've heard sermons about spare the rod, spoil the child. these people believe they are doing the right thing. >> well, i don't know what your
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southern lineage has to do with anything, because jackson was raised in gary, indiana, and california, but whatever. to bethany marshall. what about it? >> marshall, what about it? >> mr. myron said he hit them with the belt when they didn't clean their room. that's not discipline. that's a a buice. i think there's a culture of violence. i don't think the inception of the addiction was with the incident of the hair catching on fire. i think it was all the abuse that made him disregulated and traumatized and unable to self-soothe without drugs. >> ian, back to the topic. >> yes. >> when will we get some sort of resolution on the murder investigation? >> well we're hoping in two weeks or less. that's the deadline we've been given. and we'll see, because there's going to be more and more coming out of this obviously.
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pal lalong wiggins has been charged with accessory after the fact. >> they're not saying what her role is, if they found something at her house. >> a lot of wild rumors float around especially about any investigation as complex as this one involving all the players that it involves. >> pam larks you're charged with accessory to murder after the fact. >> investigators believe she was close with leonard gonzalez jr. as his landlord and a friend. >> we know she was associated with leonard patrick gonzalez jr. up until the day of the murders. what do you have to say for yourself? it is a combination of friendships, casual business
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relationships that brought this group together. did you know the billings were going to die? >> investigators found key evidence in the murder of byrd and melanie bills. >> apparently was parked near the mansion before the robbery happened. >> the latest in the double murders of this beautiful couple leaving 16 children orphaned, to ed lavandera at the sheriff's office, pensacola, florida, what is the latest? >> reporter: we understand authorities here are saying they are approaching the end of their investigation, but we've had a lot of interesting details come out throughout the day. they found the safe they say was stolen from the billings' home and also found the weapons and the weapon they believe was used in those murders so we understand that those weapons are sent off for testing and that authorities are in the process of processing what was inside that safe. >> ed lavandera joining us from the sheriff's office. special guest deputy chris
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wellbourne, pia of escambia county sheriff's office. thank you for being with us. i understand a blond realtor is charged with murder, accessory to murder after the fact. why? what does she have to do with any of this? >> she was an associate of the seven suspects that entered the compound, upon investigation, we determined that a vehicle registered to her was parked near the compound and used as a getaway vehicle. it also contained the safe and the guns use in this horrible crime. >> with all of these people involved in the so-called conspiracy and i'm not trying to detract from the seriousness of it, two people are dead, 16 children orphaned, with this many people involved, i mean it's a foregone conclusion. somebody's going to talk. >> exactly. you can't keep this many people from not speaking to someone,
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and that helped in this investigation. it also helped that, well, we believe one of the people involved, one the persons of interest did not disable this video surveillance. >> you know what? all i can say about that, deputy, is praise the lord for that idiot that didn't unhook the security device. deputy, thank you for being with us. let's stop and remember army staff sergeant darrell griffin jr., 36, california, killed iraq. awarded the bronze star for saving the life of several soldiers. loved books reading by philosophers, writing, wrote 400 pages of a book, leaves behind wife diana, darrell griffin jr., american hero. thanks to our guest but especially to you. see you tomorrow night 8:00 sharp eastern and until then, good night, friend.
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