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>> following the deadliest strike on u.s. forces in afghanistan in more than a decade. >> to those who carried out this attack, we will not forgive. we will not forget. we will hunt you down and make you pay. >> we examine this consequential moment. what will become of those left behind? how will this crisis impact america's standing and security? those questions and more for secretary of state antony blinken, senator ben sasse from the senate intelligence committee and the latest from our team in the region. plus, the powerful witness accounts from one of the veterans helping afghan families escape. and with covid raging across the u.s., dr. fauci joins us this morning. new questions about the timeline for boosters, and his reaction to the intelligence report on the virus' origins. and tracking hurricane ida. as the gulf coast braces for impact.
good morning, and welcome to "this week." two weeks since the fall of kabul, two days until the deadline for u.s. troops to withdraw. this morning, the u.s. on high alert. president biden warning saturday that another attack on the kabul airport remains highly likely in the next 24 to 36 hours, and overnight, the u.s. embassy in kabul again urging americans to leave the airport area due to a specific credible threat. it comes at the end of an already desperate and deadly week in afghanistan. thursday's suicide bomb attack claiming the lives of more than 170 afghans, one of the deadliest attacks in the history of the war. and the nation now mourning the loss of 13 u.s. service members. the largest loss of americans in
afghanistan in more than a decade. most of them marines in their 20s. lance corp. david espinosa from texas who graduated high school just two years ago. rylee mccollum who was just weeks away from welcoming his first child. nicole gee, 23 years old cradling an infant during the evacuation at the airport. president biden traveling to dover air force base this morning attending the dignified transfer of those service members' one final trip home. late friday, a u.s. drone strike aimed at isis-k terrorists, members of the group claiming credit for the blast. but the threat from the group still active. so where do we go from here in these next perilous hours? i spoke with secretary of state antony blinken late yesterday. we'll bring you that interview
in a moment, but we begin with the latest. ian pannell joins us now from qat qat qatar. what do we know about the air strike? >> reporter: we're hearing from the u.s. military that it was a targeted drone strike against a vehicle born ied, in other words a suicide car bomb they believe was driving towards the airport where the u.s. troops are based and the evacuation mission is taking place. there was a drone strike on the vehicle. they say they believe it was successful. they say there was a secondary explosion afterwards that gives them confidence it was an ied. at the moment they're saying no reports of civilian casualties, but we have to wait for the full
assessment. this underlines the threats to the troops and the enduring threat from isis and other terrorist organizations inside afghanistan as we up stakes and leave. martha? >> the big question now, how does the military evacuate the remaining people while avoiding another catastrophe in the final hours? >> reporter: this mission was already difficult and dangerous, the president said as much. it's just become more so as the days have gone on. the fewer troops there, the more difficult it is to conduct the mission. they said they plan to continue to get people out. i've been speaking to someone familiar with the operation. he's saying they're getting buses in to the base. u.s. passport holders, siv applicants, but the process is still ongoing. the key question for anyone who spent time in afghanistan, the
afghans themselves, what happens when all the troops leave? the taliban said they'll help facilitate siv applicants, but there's no clear plan. >> thanks very much, ian. the biden administration. has been racing to evacuate the remaining americans seeking to leave afghanistan before tuesday's deadline amid those continued warnings about the security threats at the kabul airport. i spoke with secretary of state antony blinken yesterday evening about the latest progress. secretary blinken, the president is saying that the threat of a further attack of the kabul airport remains highly likely in the next 24 to 36 hours. what more can you tell us about that, and are you satisfied that our u.s. forces and others are
now protected given thursday's tragic bombing? >> martha, let me address that in a second, but if i could i want to say one thing at the outset. i think every american is feeling deeply the loss of our men and women in uniform in this terrible terrorist attack at the airport in kabul. men and women who were working to bring people to safety, 110,000 people evacuated from kabul, but i have to tell you at the state department we feel this loss in a particular way. i think you know this. so many of those lost were marines. if you go to any of our embassies around the world, the first person you're going to see is a u.s. marine standing sentry, guarding the embassy. we couldn't do our jobs as diplomats in any place around the world without the marines and of course, we certainly could not have done the job that's been done in kabul without these extraordinary men and women, including the 13 who gave their lives a couple of days ago. so i just wanted to share with
you and others how deeply we feel this especially at the state department. when it comes to the risk, going forward for the next couple of days, the president's exactly right. this is very high risk, and as he said, there is a high likelihood of additional attacks between now and the 31st. what i can tell you is this, and we met again this morning with the president and our top commanders both in the field and of course, the chairman of the joint chiefs and the secretary of the defense, and i know that they are taking every possible precaution to keep our men and women safe, but this is the most dangerous time in an already extraordinarily dangerous mission. these last couple of days, and so we will do everything possible to keep -- to keep people safe, but the risk is very high. >> and you talk about the risk. there were urgent alerts from
the state department before thursday's bombing telling from the gates.iately get away - as you know, we lost those 13 service members, more than 170 afghans. i know force protection has since been increased, and that's a military decision. but as a member of the president's national security team, do you have any idea why that didn't happen sooner given the urgent alerts? you talk about embassies. embassies have outer rims and they're not guarded by the taliban. that's what happened there. >> i'm going to let my colleagues at -- in the defense department, you know, address this. i think you heard general mckenzie speak to this in some detail the other day. the hard reality of this mission is that at a certain point, direct contact was necessary between our people, our men and women in uniform, and those coming into the airport, and that was part of the -- of the mission. every effort is being made to
make sure they're as safe as possible, but of course, whenever you have something as horrific as this, any time we have a loss of life we're going to go back and look very hard at what was done, and whether anything could have been done better, but the fact of the matter is from the get go this was an extraordinarily dangerous mission, and in these last few days with isis-k clearly and actively plotting against us, the danger went up even higher. >> and the pentagon launched a drone strike on what was described as an isis planner. that was late friday. were they involved in some way in thursday's bombing, or were they suspected in planning these attacks that could come in the next day or so? >> the isis targets that were taken out involved the two individuals who were significant planners and facilitators for isis, for isis-k, and i think we'll have more details on exactly what they did, and what
they were responsible for in the days ahead. >> we know this is a dangerous period. the pentagon does say that the withdrawal of u.s. troops from the kabul airport has already begun. we know more than 100,000 people have already been evacuated. it's an historic number which did take an incredible amount of work, but can you get all the american citizens who want to leave and our afghan allies who are at risk out by the tuesday deadline, especially given this threat? >> we're doing everything possible to do just that. we have about 300 american citizens left who have indicated to us that they want to leave. we're very actively working to help them get to the airport, get on a plane and get out of afghanistan. >> the administration keeps saying the commitment to our afghan allies doesn't end on the 31st, but your spokesman said the airport will not be open on september 1st and the taliban obviously can't secure safety when u.s. forces are present.
so how do you think any american citizens or afghan partners who are left behind will be able to fly out? what would you say to them on how to get out? >> martha, a few things. first, just about 24 hours ago a very senior taliban leader spoke on television and on the radio throughout afghanistan and repeatedly assured the afghan people that they would be free to travel after august 31st, and he -- >> but secretary blinken, they do not trust them. i know you say you don't trust the taliban, but now you're telling me we should trust what the taliban said. those people in hiding -- >> i'm not saying that, martha. i'm not saying we should trust the taliban on anything. i'm simply reporting what one of their senior leaders said to the afghan people. he specifically cited as well those who worked for americans and any other afghan for whatever reason. so that's point one. >> okay, but i want to go back to that. you're trying to reassure our afghan allies. they're not reassured. those interpreters who aren't
getting out, they're not reassured by a statement like that. what more can you tell them to get out, how to get out? >> certainly. martha, that was just point one. point two is this. 114 countries have made clear that it is their expectation that the taliban will permit freedom to travel going past august 31st. so that is a clear expectation across the entire world, across the entire international community. third, we have very significant leverage to work with over the weeks and months ahead, to incentivize the taliban to make good on its commitments. fourth, we have been very actively planning for what would be necessary to keep the airport functioning, either to have it
function immediately after the 31st or if necessary to take the steps to require it to reopen. the taliban have a strong interest in having an airport that functions. the afghan people have a strong interest in having an airport the entire international community has that interest. while the airport is critical, and we're determined to see it remains open, there are other ways to leave afghanistan including by road and many countries border afghanistan. >> that's a very dangerous trip. >> again, if the taliban is serious about the commitments that it's repeatedly made in public, including nationally, across the country as well as in private, then we'll find ways to do it, and for our part, we're making sure we have in place all of the necessary tools and means to facilitate the travel for those who seek to leave afghanistan after august 31st. >> you will not have an embassy there. what is the likelihood that it will open again given you won't have u.s. forces there? >> we're going to have to see
exactly what happens in the weeks and months ahead in terms of how the taliban conducts itself, what the security situation is in the country, but we're going to be very, very actively engaged diplomatically. certainly in the region, and we'll see what the -- what the prospects are down the road for afghanistan itself. we're also working very closely with dozens of countries that are similarly situated that have a strong interest in making sure people can continue to have freedom of travel and leave afghanistan if they choose, and working in close collaboration with those countries, we'll find ways to ensure that freedom of travel is meaningful. >> okay. hope that all happens. thanks so much for joining us, mr. secretary. >> thanks, martha. good to be with you. let's get a response now from republican senator ben sasse, a member of the intelligence committee. good morning, senator. i know you called for president biden to extend the deadline, but you heard secretary blinken. they are not moving that
deadline which likely means there will be people left behind. how do you think these afghans and american citizens will get out? >> first of all, martha, that interview was disgusting and the american people have a right to be livid about it. there is clearly no plan. there has been no plan. their plan has basically been happy talk. people have died and people are going to die because president biden decided to rely on happy talk instead of reality, and so they decided to outsource security around the airport to the taliban. they passed a list of american citizens and america's closest allies, people who fought alongside us. they passed those lists to the taliban relying on them. it was stupid then. it's insane now, and their plan still seems to be, let's rely on cares a lot about what world an- opinion thinks of them at french restaurants. it was -- it was a disgusting
revelation of yet again no plan. >> so what do you think we do now? i know we have a lot of unofficial groups. >> yeah. so martha, let's just -- let's distinguish between a number -- among a number of different groups. we have american citizens who are being left behind. we have american green holders who are being left behind. we have afghan allies who are siv holders, folks who fought alongside us, drivers, translators, people who actually fought with us. these people are people to whom we made commitments. we have nato allies who are livid at us. there are some groups, and i'm on the intelligence committee as you know, and there are some small ways to try to do things around the margins, but what we need is a commander in chief that actually has a big plan and a big way to solve this problem. president biden has been repeatedly disconnected from reality. he wants happy talk for some -- some political talking point he still wants to execute on, or a fight he's been having been
with obama administration alums since 2009. i'm not sure what's driving the happy talk, but i know what the consequences are going to be. the consequences are going to be a return of the taliban that has been willing to provide safe haven to terrorists in the past and right now they don't even have the power to make a decision about who they are or aren't going to provide safe haven to. we have al qaeda networks, isis-k, talibani folks themselves who are killers. we have so many groups who want to turn afghanistan to the global capital city of jihad, and the administration doesn't have a plan. they have all this over the horizon talk that is laughably shallow. if you sit in these meetings, and hear what over the horizon looks like, it's a pittance compared to the what we just had on the ground. >> given that the taliban said this date is a red line, given that isis is carrying out these
horrendous bombings and threatening more violence, wouldn' staying have put our forces more at risk? >> joe biden put our forces at risk by having no plan for how to evacuate. we are absolutely at risk, and we are at risk because the president has been so unbelievably weak, abandoning bagram base will be read about in military textbooks for decades as one of the stupidest military blunders ever. the president has tried to claim that somehow his military advisers were for this. that isn't true. what is true is that the biden officials at the white house told the military we'll get down to a couple hundred folks and then get down to zero quickly. therefore they couldn't defend bagram, and we have been relying on taliban to provide security around the border of an urban mostly civilian airport that has a single runway. we have been in a ridiculously untenable position for the sake of evacuating these folks. americans keep their word. 13 service men and women died this week and our families across this country are in
prayer for those families and the ultimate sacrifice they have made, but they were doing something to make sure that no one was left behind. the commander in chief should be doing the same, which is make sure that no one is left behind. >> thank you so much for joining us this morning, senator sasse. the round table is next and later, dr. fauci on the timeline for those booster shots. plus, a live report on hurricane ida. catastrophic damage expected as it intensifies and barrels towards the gulf coast. we'll be right back. folks the world's first fully autonomous vehicle is almost at the finish line today we're going to fine tune the dynamic braking system whoo, what a ride! i invested in invesco qqq a fund that invests in the innovators of the nasdaq 100 like you you don't have to be a deep learning engineer to help make the world a smarter place does this come in blue? become an agent of innovation with invesco qqq
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jon, i want to talk to you first here. listening to president biden in his top national security advisers before the horrible bombing, they were making this sound like a smashing success, but you heard what secretary blinken just said. >> yeah. i mean, it is -- they have been describing something that isn't reality. this has been an incredible air lift. more than 100,000 people evacuated, but what a disaster. clearly thursday was the worst day of the biden presidency, and we don't really know, martha, how bad it really is. we know the disaster that has unfolded. now the big question is does afghanistan once again become a safe haven for terrorist attacks on u.s. interests around the world or at home? >> which is of course, why they said they were getting out. that was solved. >> and maybe part of the reason why afghanistan had not been such is there was a military
presence in afghanistan, but now we will have this over the horizon capabili, t e bottomishe terror threat has increased and our ability to combat it has decreased. >> jane, i was saying you are literally just back in the united states after your courageous and incredible reporting from kabul for pbs. i watched you every step of the way, and you were with those marines right at abbey gate. a few days before the bomb blast. what did you see? i know you have pictures and images that you have shown on pbs about how close those marines were together. >> they were closeogno seiae's been muc discussion about how the taliban had been providing security. what the taliban had been trying to provide was some sort of crowd control. there wasn't really a semblance of security. people weren't really being
checked and this gate area was essentially into an open road. these are roads around the airport. you had u.s. marines and other american soldiers. you had british soldiers, soldiers from many different nato and allied countries standing around next to the taliban in many cases, next to thousands and thousands of people. these people had the ability to walk right up to these soldiers. they are doing that, and begging them for help. >> they were showing documents. >> any pieces of paper they had. sometimes i.d. cards that they had once worked at a base. they were desperately trying to prove they had a right to get into planes. because there was confusion as to what would qualify them for an siv or to prove they had helped with the war effort, people were showing up with any kinds of pieces of paperwork. folders with i.d.s, and some of them just pictures of them with american soldiers. we saw panicked crowds.
when we talk about security, at the time, much of the discussion of security was how to keep the soldiers, but also the people safe from the panicked crowds from stampedes, from the heat. there were people killed right there in the street. so to say it was chaotic is an understatement. so say there was a semblance of security checks is a misunderstanding of what was actually happening. >> you heard tony blinken say, look. it's just like an embassy. not like an embassy. >> not like an embassy. it's like a stampede of people trying to be controlled by various armed groups. >> president biden promised retribution. he promised if strike on isis-k would not be the last. leon panetta said he thinks the u.s. will have to go back into afghanistan. to jon's point that over horizon is not the same as being on the ground. >> no. it's not, and one of the things we've seen sort of in conjunction with the
deterioration of security in the last two months is the fact that we have had less and less intel collection on the ground, you know, troops not being able to secure the premises there. isis being able to embed itself in mountains and homes to be able to operate in the way they were. remember, 20 years ago when the attacks of 9/11 happened, technology was far less fist -- sophisticated than it is now. it really raises concerns about what is happening on the ground in the potential for another terrorist strike down the line which is why so many people were against us withdrawing in this way in the first way. >> you look back on iraq after we withdrew from iraq. we didn't really know the magnitude of isis taking over that country. >> i was the ap bureau chief in 2014 thow isis was able to sort of take over a third of iraq and syria because of the fact that our presence
was so limited there, and we were ultimately forced to go back in despite reluctance and something that secretary of state blinken said to you today is so important that we're now going to have our diplomatic presence limited as well. just to show you the arc of what's happened, we have been saying we're going to maintain a diplomatic presence in afghanistan and now we're saying we don't know what that looks like after september 1st. all those things combined are important in security measures we could be taking in the future sgh unlikely we will have an embassy for a long time because we don't have u.s. forces on the ground. gayle, you have spent so much time in afghanistan. tony blinken talked about the significant leverage we have with the taliban. have?uch leverage do we really - >> so i've never been want to believe we don't have leverage and i had the privilege of spending a lot of time in afghanistan when i was doing research for my first book and
you can go back and look at the first documents from the taliban takeover in 1996. the first thing they wanted which always surprised me was the u.n. seat in new york, right? they want legitimacy. they want to be taken seriously, and they want funding. let's be real about the money, right? the world bank has $5 billion put on hold. in the u.s. which has frozen its assets, it has afghanistan assets. if it has a country facing a pandemic, a crashed government, war and young population, two-thirds under 25, and they're willing to do anything possible to flee to safety. if it wants to govern this country and that's a big if -- i'm not at all a believer in taliban 2.0, but i'm saying use the leverage. we are the international comunity. we demand a few things. you want access to this cash, here's what it's going to be.
it's the grounds of the deal. we get mobility of people. we get mobility of people. so we create a humanitarian up and this is an international community. international community steps up and says, for access to all this stuff that you want, here's what it requires. one is mobility of people. two is not allowing half the population to go invisible and brutalized and third is that you, you know, keep your commitments on the terrorism front and i think that, you know, i'm not saying that deal will happen, but i'm saying the outlines of a deal could be pushed forward if people get serious about it because martha, you have a -- you have a whole group of young women, a generation of young women that's in hiding right now. i know of multiple young people who were part of this country's future who have no idea whether they can show themselves in public at this point, and they're trying to figure out what comes next. there must be a corridor to let those get to safety and allow the taliban to say, you know what? we're not the same.
we've taken so much heat from isis and they're saying, let's >> that's the future, and that's hope, but jane, i just want quickly, how will that overland route that tony blinken talks about work in the coming days? these people -- i have had marines say to me, they've got two days to live. basically they have two days to live, these people who are trying to get out, and then the taliban comes in. a real threat. >> and they have been going door to door in various cities around the country and a lot of these people who are hiding aren't just in kabul. no one expected kabul to fall so quickly. they didn't have an escape route. you have different people in terms of threat and the retribution. the scenes of chaos we saw at the airport are significant to everybody who's trying to get out because many of those people who are most at risk and would have been commandos and worked in intelligence services and worked with the americans
weren't able to get to the front because they were stuck behind crowds of people who were also trying to get to the front. there wasn't a prioritizing of people according to risk, and that is going to be something that is going to play out over the next few days. getting out over land is going to be just as chaotic. you think the scenes at the airport are bad, wait until you see the border crossings with pakistan. it's going to become increasingly difficult. it will also test how much the taliban can control those routes and that territory. they're massively under pressure now. they're getting pushback from members of the public. they're saying your brand -- it's supposed to be law and order. where is it? >> jon, i want to go to you. what do you see as the future there? if you rewind, biden called this the risk of civil war. >> president biden has portrayed
this as he has two choices. send in more troops, or leave as quickly as possible. those were i think not to two choices, and the bottom line is the intelligence he was receiving is not on the dangers of staying a little while longer. it was on the dangers of leaving too quickly, and i think one of the decisions that will be looked at intensely going ahead was the decision to abandon the bagram air force base, and it happened in the beginning of july and not just because it deprived us of a secure airfield about the military support being gone, but there were two prisons at the bagram airfield that were both -- >> filled with isis. >> filled with isis and taliban. the first released from those prisons happened under president trump as an agreement that secretary pompeo negotiated with the taliban, and that happened
in october which certainly added to the taliban's ranks and when the prisons were completely emptied just in the past two weeks, that clearly added to the ranks of isis-k and other terrorist groups and one of the haunting questions that i have, is this attack on thursday, was anybody who was released from those prisons involved in that attack? >> and you have to wonder, people who say, oh, the taliban is not affiliated with isis, even though they just left them. i want to talk about this poll. it shows 38% of americans approve of biden's handling of afghanistan. 84% say u.s. troops should stay in afghanistan until all americans are evacuated. that's not going to happen. >> here's the interesting thing about that poll you see.
you say 84%. it's consistent and one of the only things i have seen for years. a question where democrats, republicans and independents all over 80% say exactly the same thing that we should stay until all americans are to be evacuated. as you pointed out, not going to happen. >> a tough thing for president biden to say. he says he will help women and i girls. what do you see as their future there? >> it's concerning. a lot of people are concerned. the taliban is talking the talk, and you see that in situations like this we saw with isis as well. they go into cities and try to win over public opinion. they assure people they're not going to adhere to sort of strict interpretations of islam and things like that, but as time goes on, we will likely see them going back to the old ways. maybe not exactly as they were pre-2001, but sort of an extreme interpretation, and there is a legitimate concern for women and talin has never reallyeeamonf m rights, so obviously the u.s., its allies trying to find ways to help, and how do you do that when you don't have a diplomatic presence there, and ngos can't
operate safely? the u.n. doesn't know, and they have a lot of concerns. >> i want you to have the last word here, but we have about 15 second. afghanistan's future realistically? >> crushing heartbreak amid possible hope. >> okay. that sums it up. thank you all. what an incredible panel. what incredible experiences you have all had. thank you so much. coming up, dr. anthony fauci with new information about boosters and his reaction to that inconclusive intelligence report on the origins of covid. stay with us.
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be shorter or almost five months? that's being discussed. >> president biden floating quicker access to booster shots as the delta variant surge continues across the nation. almost every county now reporting high community transmission. for more, let's bring in the president's chief medical adviser dr. anthony fauci. good morning to you, dr. fauci. the latest data is that the case average is up 153% in the last month. covid hospitalizations surpassed 100,000 for the first time since january and daily covid-related deaths increasing, despite increasing vaccinations. what needs to happen at a time when covid fatigue seems off the charts? >> well, we can't let covid fatigue overcome us, martha. we still are in a situation where there's a lot that we can do about it.
we have now about 80 million people in this country who are eligible to be vaccinated who have not yet gotten vaccinated. we need to get those people a vaccination. we have a highly effective and safe tool to really get down those numbers that you just accurately portrayed. those are numbers that are really quite startling. we're still in an up surge. the numbers that you gave are very, very alarming, be you we can do something about it. if it was a situation that we had no recourse or no tools, you could see how frustrating it would be, but it's even more frustrating when it's a situation where we do have a vac even that's highly effective, highly safe, it's free and it works. we have to get those people who are not vaccinated in that group vaccinated. >> i want to concentrate on school kids with you this morning. as we transition into the fall of course, we have all these kids going to school, and
pediatric hospital admissions are at the highest point of the pandemic. does the delta variant just hit them harder than we expected? what's happening? >> well, what we're seeing is that this -- this variant, martha, is highly transmissible. the ability to transmit from person to person is much greater and more efficient than the prior variants, the alpha variant we had. that's affecting both adults and children. so you're going to see more children infected and quantitatively since more children are infected, you're going to see more children unfortunately getting hospitalized, and that's what we're seeing. we're seeing that. we've got to cut down the community spread. you can protect children who can't get vaccinated because of their age yet. we can protect them by surrounding them with a community of people who are vaccinated. that's how you protect children, and you also do it by complying with the cdc guidelines about masking, particularly masking in
school, even though you have vaccinated teachers and vaccinated personnel. you want to give that extra added level of protection for the children. that's the way we can protect them. >> and what's the latest timetable for getting vaccine shots for children under 12? >> well, right now the data has been collected and we should have enough data by i would say the end of september, middle to end of september, early october so that those data can then be presented to the fda to examine for the risk/benefit ratio of safety and benefit, and we will look at at least the middle of september to beginning of october. hopefully we'll be doing it quickly depending on the assessment of the ratio. >> you heard president biden say they're looking at whether booster shots should be given sooner than eight months, perhaps as early as five months. what's your recommendation? >> well, we're still sticking
with the eight months, martha. however, as we've said even in the original statement that came out, we're going to have to go through the standard way of the fda looking at the data, and then the advisory committee and immunization practices. we're remaining flexible that if the data tells us differently, we'll make adjustments accordingly, but for now, sticking with the eight. >> and the intelligence community delivered that review on the origins of coronavirus. it was inconclusive. will we ever know? >> you know, i hope so, martha, because it will help us to avoid this in the future, but we will need the cooperation of chinese scientists and public health officials if we're going to do the surveillance and logic as well as the animals being able to access whether or not animals have viruses that are closely related to sars cov-2. we need the cooperation of the chinese.
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impacts have started and so just south of us, the core of the storm is just a couple of hours from coming on shore. this storm, ida, that could end up being the strongest by wind speed in louisiana state history. so you saw the satellite image and radar, extreme wind warning. that's when you think 115 to 150-mile-per-hour winds. they told people in st. bernard parish, anyone highlighted in that fuchsia, that you have to treat it like a tornado. get inside now because it is coming. tornado watches extending into the florida panhandle. the track is critically important here because yes, it will decrease in wind speed and pass just west of us, but the closer we are to that eyewall, the bigger wind speeds we'll see. that stays a hurricane all the way up to the state line of mississippi, so eatovy lo e tna. so much to look at here, but we'll be tracking it. >> you'll be tracking it all day. stay safe. coming up, we'll talk with
the army veteran helping evacuate afghan allies who left kabul just minutes before thursday's attack. his emotional journey next. kabul just minutes before thursday's attack. his emotional journey next. at usaa, we've been called too exclusive. because we were created for officers. but as we've evolved with the military, we've grown to serve all who've honorably served. no matter their rank, or when they were in. a marine just out of basic, or a petty officer from '73. and even his kids. and their kids.
usaa is made for all who've honorably served and their families. are we still exclusive? absolutely. and that's exactly why you should join. before we go, so many have worked tirelessly through the past two weeks. that includes jariko denman, a former army ranger who served 15 combat tours in iraq and afghanistan, and he was in kabul working with other veterans to get afghan allies and their families out of the country, leaving just 30 minutes before thursday's deadly attack, and jariko, it is good to see you safely back here. you immediately went to kabul to
try to help with this network of veterans and others. how does it even work? >>t woed -it was much like when we would do operaon a special operations soldier. we figured it out on the fly. it would give us many of to our partners out as we could, and operate within the left and right limit of you can do this, you can't do that? >> these are unofficial channels, but you were inside the airport. >> absolutely. i mean, when i flew in on the flight that i flew in on, i was surprised we got in because it was just -- no one had ever done it before. it was the first charter flight that we made, and i didn't know if it would work, and when it did, i didn't know if someone would be at the plane telling me not to get off. i got off, and i didn't know where i would stay and just stteevyone wag,ig o. firi out how to communicate with each other, and pulling our
friends out. >> what was that like for you, jariko? i know you were getting hundreds of messages from people you know, from other veterans who were trying to get their interpreters out. >> right. i think for me, it had to become kind of a mindset shift because i had been out for awhile. i had to put myself back in the mindset of more like a combat leader, and it became triage at that point. and while it was really gutting to have one of your friends tell you the whole back story of someone who couldn't get out or needed help getting out, but if you had a stack of 45 people you needed to get out, you know, that day sometimes you just had to tell them, hey. tell your person to sit tight or take chances without me because there isn't the time or the logistics to get all these people. >> i know on thursday you sent me video from the night before the bombing that was terrifying.
people surging towards that gate, flash bang grenades going off. explain what you saw. >> i saw just complete carnage. it reminded me of, you know, when you watch a movie about world war ii or something like that, or, you know, looking back at hurricane katrina when people are just so desperate to get care, and then you add into the mix the taliban and isis and ied threats and those people are tracking that too. they're doing everything they can to get to the front. in the video, it, you know, sounds like you're going to the super bowl, but it's actually people not screaming to cheer. they're yelling for their lives to get attention of somebody to let them in. >> jariko, just on closing, i know you worked with some of those marines and navy corpsman we lost. this is a tough one for you. you have been in combat.
you've lost a lot of friends. this is a tough one. >> yeah. again, it was different going in with this lens. those marines and airmen and soldiers on that line and at those gates were just -- they were kids, and i was out there and tried to cheer them up, and, you know, they helped me so much getting -- getting my i people that i was trying to pull out and getting the people that other people asked me to pull out, and yeah. no complaining. it was all g as w, screw the many out. just one more. just one more, and they're absolute heroes. >> so are you for doing what you did over there. thanks so much, jariko. that's all for us today. thanks for sharing part of your sunday with us on this solemn weekend. please take a moment to remember the brave service members we lost this week and those still working to save lives. and if you are in the path of the hurricane, stay safe. have a good day. e path of
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