♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: my thanks to taylor swift, john oliver, imagine dragons! [ cheers and applause ] ben & jerry, the roots right there, ladies and gentlemen. [ cheers and applause ] everyone who works so hard on our show, thank you so much for a great first year. stay tuned for "late night with seth meyers." thank you for watching. have a great night. hope to see you tomorrow bye-bye everybody. [ cheers and applause ] ♪

[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers." tonight -- jeremy piven. creators of hbo's "game of thrones," david benioff and dan weiss. music from marina and the diamonds. featuring the 8g band. ♪ [ cheers applause ] and now, here he is, seth meyers! >> seth: good evening, everybody. i'm seth meyers, this is "late night," how are we all doing tonight? [ cheers and applause ]

that is good to hear. i'm so glad your spirits are high which is why i feel bad. i'm heart broken for what i'm about to tell you, because this is the big news today. zayn malik has officially left -- zayn malik has officially left one direction. however -- [ cheers and applause ] however, i am happy to say, i don't know which one that is. [ laughter and applause ] i saw it coming. i saw this coming as soon as he started dating yoko ono. i saw -- i said it. i said it on this show. [ laughter ] this is also interesting, in political news. because his wife is taking a leave of absence from work, senator ted cruz is being dropped from her health insurance, and will have to sign up for obamacare. [ laughter and applause ]

it's true, i'm not making that up. ted cruz. that ted cruz is signing up for obamacare, this is like finding out jenny mccarthy went in for a flu shot. [ laughter ] that's what it's like, you guys. zayn's gone, and he's not coming back. we need to get that through your heads. [ cheers and applause ] gone. i'm proud of zayn. go live your life, zayn. he's 22, go have a normal life, go do things 22-year-olds do. with loads of money. [ laughter ] i forgot i had a follow-up joke about this ted cruz obamacare thing. and i really derailed it by talking about zayn again. [ laughter ] so, anyways ted cruz's his wife she left her job now he's got to sign up for obamacare. you all remember. anyway, that's right. [ laughter ]

ted cruz is singing up for obamacare. but, he still plans to repeal it if elected president. he'll replace it with cruzcare, which is just a wine soaked rag you bite down on during your surgery. [ laughter ] it's very effective. very effective. [ applause ] burger king -- burger king stores in japan are reportedly planning to sell whopper scented cologne for those special occasions when you want to smell like the inside of a fat guy's car. [ laughter ] burger king is going to sell whopper scented cologne. though, if you love whoppers that much, you probably don't need it. [ light laughter ] you probably have the surrounding odors. save your money. spend it on the whopper.

this is fascinating to me, a florida couple was arrested friday, after they were scene having sex in a parking lot outside of a playground in the middle of the day. when the horrified children asked what was going on, their parents had to explain, you see, when a man and a woman love meth very much. [ laughter ] the birds and the bees and a drug called meth. there are new restaurants opening up all the time in new york city. this one sounds pretty special. a new restaurant in new york has just opened and served dishes made only from food scraps, donated from other restaurants. said arby's, "they're on to us, every man for himself!" [ laughter and applause ] we should have copyrighted this. in some good luck news, a man coming out of surgery has won $7 million on a lottery ticket that was tucked in his get well card.

and this is great, after paying his hospital bills, he still has $900 left. [ laughter ] [ applause ] that's good. you know what that is? that's whopper cologne money. [ laughter ] and finally guys, "vogue" has named what they are calling hollywood's new brat pack, it's justin bieber, kendall jenner, ansel elgort and this is surprising super creepy rob lowe. [ laughter and applause ] so, happy he made the list. he's back. ladies and gentlemen, this is the 8g band. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: how are you doing 8g band. you sound lovely. you look lovely. it's lovely to have you here. i don't need to tell you guys march madness is in full swing.

we have the sweet 16 coming up this weekend. a lot of us filled out brackets. a lot of us have since torn them up. and one of the things i mentioned about brackets the last couple days, is there are websites out there who have come up with non-basketball bracket competitions for people to put a vote online. things like best burrito or best action movie. so, we here at "late night" we went out and created a bracket of our own. we chose 64 totally unrelated things and we pit them against each other in a bracket we've been calling "the 'late night' tournament of things." [ applause ] this looks like a regular bracket, but our regions are stuff, objects, items and whatnot. and the first round is over. and man, oh man it's been an amazing roller coaster ride so far. sriracha out. tappan zee bridge out. intel pentium processor, better luck next year, you're out. so, now we're heading into round two. and boy have we got some

exciting matchups for you. over in the stuff region we've got estonia versus pommel horse. [ light laughter ] in the object region we've long time rivals yield sign versus phillips head screwdrivers. guiys, we're down to 32 things. so, go online and vote for who you think should win each matchup. just head over to latenightseth.com or vote on twitter @latenightseth. this could not be less important. give it up for march nonsense everybody. [ cheers and applause ] it's genuinely -- genuinely curious to see who's going to win this thing. we've got a great -- we have such a good show tonight, jeremy piven is here tonight. [ cheers and applause ] coming back to the show for the second time. jeremy piven. also stopping by, this is very exciting for us, the creators of one of my favorite tv shows, "game of thrones." david benioff and dan weiss. [ cheers and applause ] and they have promised me -- they have promised me they're going to tell us all how it ends.

and they're not. we'll have music from marina and the diamonds, it's going to be a great show. [ cheers and applause ] great show. if any of you know, if you watched the show i have a dog. my dog's name is frisbee, she's a seven pound three-year-old italian greyhound. she's adorable. my wife and i, we love her so much. but, like everyone who has a dog, we spend a lot of time wondering what's going on in her -- in the little brain of hers. so i, using my big old brain, came up with a great idea, to figure out what's going on in hers. let's take a look. >> hey, everybody, i'm here with my dog frisbee, and my wife and i are always wondering what she's thinking. so, today we're going to sit down with some dog psychics. [ laughter ] so, tell us your name and tell us your process of how you talk to dogs. >> catherine ferguson. >> seth: okay. >> and what i usually do is start by getting some background information. then i just connect with the animal's higher self. >> seth: well, i'll be very impressed if frisbee has a higher self. does frisbee strike you as an

animal who's happy in her life? >> oh, i think she's very happy. >> seth: does frisbee know that i am a celebrity? >> no, she thinks you're an ordinary man. >> seth: do you think frisbee that thinks the u.s. should get involved in a ground war with isis? >> she's not to keen on that. >> seth: that's good. so, we're trying to find out exactly how much frisbee likes her outfit. does she like this outfit? >> yeah, she does. >> seth: what does she think of this? >> she said, "this is ridiculous." >> seth: what does she think of this one? >> it's good for warmth. but, it's not -- it's just so much around her. she doesn't have a lot of freedom or movement. >> seth: would it surprise you that she gets so cold that she has to wear this from the end of august to the following middle of june. okay, so, i'm going to hold up some photos, and you tell me what frisbee thinks of these people or things. >> adorable. >> seth: that's her mother. >> the jury is still out on this one. [ laughter ] >> seth: the jury is still out. i'm glad you are keeping an open mind, fris. [ laughter ]

>> sophomoric. that's what the dog said. i didn't say it. i'm just translating what she told me. >> seth: hi, now we're here with sue pike. and sue you are an animal talker, is that correct? >> yes. >> seth: okay, great. so, what is your process? >> so, as an animal communicator i do the telepathic mind to mind, heart to heart. now, when i start to channel, just a head's up, my voice does change a little bit from what you're hearing now. >> seth: okay. >> why is everybody talking to me today? what is the big deal? just because i'm small doesn't mean i'm scared. it looks like i might be a little timid. but, looks are deceiving don't worry about that, i know what's happening. >> seth: based on how long winded that was. i'm happy for the first time frisbee can't talk. it's time for dog ink blots. >> i don't understand. >> seth: well, it's -- i need you to look at this and tell me

what you think it looks like. so, if it looks like a butterfly, say butterfly. don't say butterfly, because that's the easy one that everybody does for ink blots. >> doesn't look like anything. >> seth: frisbee, just try to help me out. >> come on frisbee what is that you think about? >> nothing. [ laughter ] >> seth: i can also not talk. christine, tell us about your process? >> i don't talk to the animals, usually, i look at energy. >> seth: what are your political views, frisbee? >> i think that people should be able to just do what they want to do. >> so people-based, you don't have a lot of dog views? >> what do you mean dog? >> seth: oh, are you not aware that you're a dog? >> dog? >> seth: this is very jarring. [ laughter ] so we're here with eileen garfinkle. >> hello. >> seth: and eileen tell me how you communicate with dogs? >> i work with spirit guides who give me messages about the animal and also about the person, usually. i do believe in past lives and you and she have been connected

many times before. >> seth: now, in the previous life, was i a person, was she a dog? >> no. >> seth: okay. what were we? >> i have to ask the spirit guides if i can have that information. [ laughter ] i get that you were two people. >> seth: oh wow. >> this is what i'm getting. she was -- i keep hearing child and lover, so there might be two past lives. [ laughter ] >> seth: now, as for that past life you have to realize it was a different time -- >> and we had different -- yes. >> seth: a lot of things like different values. you could get away with a lot of different stuff. >> that's exactly right. >> seth: i'm seth meyers. you don't have to be a dog psychic to know that frisbee thought this was [ bleep ] stupid. [ cheers and applause ] give it up for all our dog psychics. give it up for frisbee. we'll be right back with more "late night." [ cheers and applause ] ♪

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♪ ♪ ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back to "late night," everybody. you know, in this day and age, we know celebrities better than ever, whether it's through twitter, instagram or reading about them online. but we were wondering, how well do people actually know how to spell their names?

let's find out by playing a little game called "celebrity spelling bee!" ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: all right, we've got three contestants. welcome, everyone. you guys ready to play? >> yeah. >> yup. >> seth: all right, cassandra, the first round names. [ laughter ] >> first round. >> seth: cassandra, i haven't seen you in a while. where have you been? >> i was finding myself. >> seth: okay, great. and did you find yourself? >> no. but the police did. >> seth: oh, no. cassandra, i'm so sorry. all right! caroline, you're our first contestant. welcome. this is for one point, caroline. >> okay. >> seth: he recently starred as martin luther king, jr. in the oscar nominated film "selma." your name is david oyelowo. would you like me to use it in a sentence? >> yes. >> seth: okay. is it racist to misspell david oyelowo? we're about to find out. please spell david oyelowo. >> okay. d-a-v-i-d. >> seth: killing it so far.

>> o-y-e-l-l-o-w. >> seth: not too far off, but definitely wrong. [ buzzer ] all right, moving on. all right, are you ready to play? bill, welcome, bill. where you from, bill? >> long island. >> seth: long island. all right, bill. [ cheers ] we'll let the smattering of long island applause die down. [ laughter ] bill, you ready? all right, she is one of the youngest people ever to be nominated for an academy award and most recently appeared in "grand budapest hotel." your celebrity name is saoirse ronan. would you like to buy a vowel? >> yes. >> seth: you can't because she has them all. [ laughter ] please spell saoirse ronan. >> pass. [ laughter ] >> seth: buzz him! [ buzzer ] i bet pass is actually closer than you would have come. [ laughter ] all right, contestant number three. adam, where are you from, adam? >> new york. >> seth: new york, welcome.

all right, adam, your celebrity name is drake. [ laughter ] >> d-r-a-k-e. >> seth: well done. [ cheers and applause ] i believe it was drake who said, started from the bottom, now you're -- >> at the top. [ laughter ] >> seth: lucky this isn't drake lyrics. all right. cassandra. [ laughter ] that was a real gimme, adam. cassandra, the name for round two, please! >> second round. >> seth: okay. cassandra, i can't believe i have to ask this. but where did the police find you? >> a refrigerator! >> seth: whose refrigerator? >> mine! >> seth: cassandra, why were you in a refrigerator? >> i was hot, dummy! >> seth: okay. [ laughter ] i'm going to take the cards. thank you, cassandra. >> thank you! >> seth: okay. and caroline -- [ applause ] i didn't ask before. where are you from? >> i'm from maryland. >> seth: maryland. all right, great. so here we go. this is easy if you're from maryland. >> okay.

>> seth: after five seasons playing defensive tackle for the detroit lions, he recently signed a $60 million contract with the miami dolphins. your celebrity name is ndamukong suh. [ laughter ] would you like the country of origin? >> yes. >> seth: so would i? now, please spell ndamukong suh. >> okay. um, a. >> seth: you're done. >> okay. { buzzer ] [ applause ] >> seth: you are done. all right, bill, we're back to you. you're still at zero points. your celebrity name is alojz smolinsky. would you like to hear that used in a sentence? >> yes. >> seth: alojz smolinsky is our accountant here at "late night." and while he may not be a celebrity, he is a celebrity to us. [ laughter ] also, he is standing right over there. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: now, using all the clues he just gave you with his appearance, smell -- spell -- >> i'll smell him.

>> seth: smell him later. but right now, spell alojz smolinsky. >> a-l-o-i-s-e. >> seth: have you even moved on to the smolinsky? [ laughter ] >> no. >> seth: buzz him! [ buzzer ] all right! all right, contestant number three, you're in the lead with one point. although, you're in last place in drake trivia. [ laughter ] contestant number three, ron paul is a house republican representing texas' 22nd district. please spell ron. [ laughter ] would you like a hint? >> yes. >> seth: it's like the name don, but with an "r" and then an "o" and then an "n." >> r-o-n. >> seth: you are on fire! [ cheers and applause ] f-i-r-e. cassandra, the round three cards, please. >> round three! >> seth: cassandra, was it scary in the refrigerator? >> no. i had lots to eat! >> seth: okay. and what did you eat?

>> my toe. >> seth: ooh. wait, why weren't you limping before? >> i forgot! >> seth: all right. [ laughter ] >> final round! >> seth: okay, thank you. ♪ oh! and the sound of the swedish national anthem means that this is our sweden round. [ laughter ] contestant number one, caroline, this swedish actor played a vampire on hbo's "true blood." your name is alexander skarsgard. a word of warning, there's the swedish letter oowa, which is an "a" with a circle above it. and honestly, i have no idea what it's doing there. spell alexander skarsgard. >> okay. a-l-e-x-a-n-d-e-r. >> seth: killing it. >> s-c-a-r-s-oowa-a-r-d. >> seth: not bad! there's no "c." there's a "k." all right, contestant number two, here's -- ♪ the reverse swedish national anthem means we go in reverse order. so contestant number three, you

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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back, everybody. our first guest is a three-time emmy award winning actor, who is currently starring in the show, "mr. selfridge," which returns for its third season this sunday on pbs' masterpiece classic. let's take a look. >> you do love him, don't you? >> of course. >> i'm sorry. i've been so caught up with business i -- >> i love him, pa. and you know why? >> why? >> he reminds me of you.

>> i'm not sure that's a reason to marry anyone. >> i think it is. you're the best father in the world. shall we go downstairs? >> seth: please welcome back to the show, jeremy piven. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: i feel like you look very modern here, but you also, you rocked that retro look very well. >> thank you very much. it's so fun to return to 1908. >> seth: yeah. >> you know, it's a welcome departure, if you will. and you know, i -- one of the reasons -- i wanted to dress like myself out here. >> seth: yeah, you should. >> and i look a little like a

combination of a hasidic jew and run dmc. let's be honest. [ laughter ] >> seth: well, i've always thought that's who you are. those two things is who you are. >> thank you for getting me. >> seth: i do get you. >> yeah. >> seth: so, congratulations. third season starts airing, you just got picked up for a fourth season. this means you spent seven months of the year in london and that's a lot of -- that's more than half. >> yeah. >> seth: immediately. i mean, i had to do the -- quickly check it, double check it, but yeah. [ light laughter ] >> it's fantastic. i'm so blown away, i can't speak. >> seth: i know. >> yeah, i mean, london is just -- it's unbelievable. i haven't affected a faux british accent. >> seth: thank you for that. >> yeah. >> seth: on behalf of all americans, we're very happy any time one of ours goes over there and comes back without the sort of fancy talk. [ laughter ] >> oh, no, i want to. >> seth: you want it, right? >> i desperately want one. >> seth: gotcha. have you found yourself even going so far as to say "cheers" to people, like, when you say hello? >> no, i just -- and also, when americans say "literally," you know it's like there's another syllable. literally, that's the way we say it, so it feels a little pretentious. >> seth: yeah, good. it is.

so, i'm glad you're not doing it. [ laughter ] is it different? how is like working on a set in england different from working on a set here in the states? >> well, they're ridiculously prepared. i mean, you know, in this country it's like -- [ laughter ] oh, no. that doesn't mean to say that americans aren't prepared. >> seth: right, yeah. >> i'll never work again. [ laughter ] >> seth: you literally just ended your career. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> oh, my god. no, i mean, my cast on "mr. selfridge", they're all just brilliant. i mean, the woman playing -- it's interesting because when i walked her down the aisle, they were like, "is that your new wife?" i'm like, "no, this is my daughter. she is nine years younger than me, but she is my daughter." [ laughter ] i love it. this year they're going to age me up because my character makes it into his 80s. >> seth: all right. >> yeah. >> seth: so, where are you in the time line of the show now? >> i am 78. >> seth: okay, gotcha.

>> that's basically the visuals you're getting. no, i'm incredibly vain, seth. i'm not going to lie to you. >> seth: hey, look. you know, this is late at night. get your secrets out. >> do you want me to, seriously? >> seth: please. just keep them coming. >> i'm in total denial of my age. >> seth: yeah, interesting. i feel like i am a little bit sometimes, too. you know what though, because you're single. i'm married. when you get married, you can't be in denial about your age because you are constantly reminded. [ laughter ] because now, my wife says things like, when you say, "oh, there's a new xbox." she says, "you're 41. [ laughter ] you're a 41-year-old man." whereas when you live alone, you just go, "i'm getting the xbox." >> that's right. [ laughter ] i'm living the dream. you take a victory lap, you high five yourself and then smoke a lot of herbal medication. you drink a little bit. >> seth: there is that moment though when you finish playing, and it's late at night and you're alone, and you go, "oh, 41." [ laughter ] >> yeah, so things just got very sad just now. >> seth: yeah, they just got sad. that's all right. talking about prepared actors,

you came from a theater family. your parents had a theater troupe -- was it a school? were they teachers? >> the piven theater is a place where, you know, they do four shows a year and they teach and i grew up in the work. my father, i just remember as a kid, we would have the wrap parties, if you will, after the plays would be over. and i kind of got to witness all these amazing, eccentric people. and, you know, i overheard a conversation my father had where he was giving notes, and he had this very deep voice, very shakespearean. and he would say, "you know, in that last moment, if you could just do a lament." and they would say, "well, the show is over. so, you can stop giving us notes now." >> seth: it's a wrap party. >> and he says, "no, no, i know it's over, but just that last moment if you could." and he would just never stop, ever stop giving notes. >> seth: that's a fun guy to be around. >> he is a fun guy to be around. when we would go to restaurants, he would look the waitress in the eye -- and i was 12-years-old at the time -- and say, "you know, my son has a huge crush on you. [ laughter ]

he's just going through puberty, so he has hair on his situation." [ laughter ] and i would lose my mind -- >> seth: yeah. >> and it was frightening. it was tortuous. >> seth: that is not a good way to start. at 12, you don't want people talking about your situation at all. >> no. puberty is -- it's awkward. >> seth: it is. i don't think anybody would say otherwise. >> no. >> seth: i need to talk about this real quick too. the trailer, a new trailer for the "entourage" film came out. >> yes. >> seth: and that's very exciting. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: the end of the trailer lists some incredible cameos, one of which is liam neeson. fun to work with liam neeson? >> well, he's one of these guys who's so brilliant and yet willing to make fun of himself. and he pulls up in a convertible bugatti. and just like, you know, liam neeson, he's this guy from dublin who's just very humble and sweet. and he's not the guy that has a very specific set of skills that's going to kill anyone.

he's like a nice thespian, you know? and yet he's so self-deprecating. and as he pulls away, i yell -- because i try talking to him. and he just goes, "[ bleep ] off ari" and pulls away. [ laughter ] i'm like, schindler -- leave no jew behind. schindler! [ laughter and applause ] and he's just gone. [ cheers and applause ] he doesn't care. >> seth: he doesn't care. >> but that's the great thing about people when they do a cameo with "entourage," they just -- they're selfless. they make fun of themselves and it's a blast. >> seth: well, that's great and i can't wait for that. and congratulations again on season three and season four. >> thank you. >> seth: so wonderful to have you here. jeremy piven, everybody. the season premiere of "mr. selfridge" airs sunday night on pbs masterpiece classic. we'll be right back with david benioff and dan weiss. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ fly into sears, #1 in appliances and home of kenmore, the most awarded brand in the industry. and hurry in for the lowest prices of the season event! save 50% off stainless steel kenmore wall ovens

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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back to "late night." our next guests are the emmy-nominated writers and executive producers behind the smash hit series, "game of thrones", which has its season five premiere sunday, april 12th on hbo. let's take a look. >> you never told me why you set me free. >> because your brother asked me to. >> you could've said no. >> refuse the king slayer? a dangerous proposition. >> not as dangerous as releasing me. you risked your life, your

position, everything. why? you're not family. you owe me nothing. >> i didn't do it for you. i did it for the seven kingdoms. >> a drunken dwarf will never be the savior of the seven kingdoms. >> i don't believe in saviors. i believe men of talent have a part to play in the war to come. >> seth: please welcome, david benioff and dan weiss. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: oh, it's so sad to see tyrion's still drinking. still has wine in his hand. >> it happens to the best of us. >> seth: a few months ago, george r.r. martin was here. he actually knighted me because he has the power to do that. have you guys been knighted at all? >> no, not by george. only by the queen. [ laughter ] >> seth: you guys met the real queen.

she came to your set in northern ireland. and she actually -- this is a photo of you guys with the queen, looking at the iron throne. [ laughter ] and you guys, it was so nice of you guys to dress like museum guards. [ laughter ] >> i was about to say, look at my pants. >> seth: yeah. you were like, "oh, wait. oh, the queen's coming. i'll wear my oldest khakis." [ laughter ] did the queen -- did she sit in the throne? >> no, she's not allowed to. apparently, the queen of england is not allowed to sit on a foreign throne, so this is an esoteric rule we didn't know about until that moment. >> seth: gotcha. >> so, yeah, it looks like we're saying don't touch the queen. >> seth: right. it is funny that it counts as a foreign throne because it is -- >> it's fictional. >> seth: yeah, fictional. but i guess that's the thing about the queen, she's a stickler -- [ laughter ] -- when it comes to rules. she's a stickler. so, this is very excited, or exciting i should say. season five, we finally -- a lot of the characters who have been very far away from one another are coming back together to interact with each other. is that for you guys writing it, is that fun to finally sort of

be able to put characters together? >> yeah, i mean, it's for -- the first four seasons, so many of our favorite characters have been separated by an ocean and continents. and the chance to see them come together, you know, these worlds colliding for the first time, it's great for us. both for writing for the characters, but also to see these actual actors who, in some cases, have barely ever met before. like, they've met at the premieres but never really spent any time together, and they're finally spending a lot of time and it's been -- it was the most fun season we've had so far. >> seth: it's like you're introducing your college and high school friends. like, you know you like them all, but it must be a little like, i hope they all get along. [ laughter ] >> this group is all of my high school friends. >> seth: of this is all your high school friends. >> they're just all high school. >> seth: now, you obviously have this situation in your show where a lot of the characters are not long for this earth. a lot of people die in your show, sometimes very suddenly. how do you guys split up who tells the actors or do you do it together? >> both. >> seth: you both do? you do it together? >> the call of death is always mutual. >> seth: oh, wow. so, is it -- is that basically, they get a call and like an

assistant says, "david and dan. i have david and dan." >> if it's david or dan, they might be okay. but if it's david and dan -- >> seth: it's really bad. [ laughter ] >> and sometimes, we're just calling to say, "hey, you want to come out for dinner?" but as soon as they get that phone call, they think we're calling to say you're dead. [ laughter ] it's like the grim reaper on the line. >> especially after the scripts come -- before the scripts come out. >> yeah, after the scripts come out, they generally know who's alive. >> seth: right. with the books, you know, because again, the books are at this point ahead of the show, so do your actors -- have you found that a lot of them, when they know what their character is, read ahead and try to find out the outcome of their character? or -- >> they do. most of them do, but that can be dangerous because every now and then, we kill somebody who doesn't die in the books. >> seth: just for like, just to get off. [ laughter and applause ] just because we're gods. >> yeah. >> just because. and so then they get the phone call, and they're like, "but -- but my character doesn't die in the book." it's just really hard to explain

and that's when it's really tough. the ones who know they're going to die it's a little bit easier because they kind of saw it coming. >> seth: right. you guys had to meet with george r.r. before you were allowed to embark on this journey. and he actually -- is this true that he sort of asked you trivia questions to make sure -- >> well, he waited. it was a lunch that turned into late lunch, which kind of segued into dinner and everybody left. it was at the palm in l.a., and it got to the point where we were some of the only -- we were changing over for dinner service. and he waited until we were relaxed and had a couple beers and didn't think anything was going to happen, just like his books. [ laughter ] and then -- >> and then, he put down his fork and knife and i remember this. i mean, this was six years ago, seven years ago? >> no, it was 2006. >> so, it was nine years ago and i can still remember this really distinctly, i can remember like the little bit of butter caught in george's beard and the kind of the evil glint in his eyes. and he said, "who is john snow's

mother?" and it was terrifying because this is the job we wanted more than any other. i mean, we were so excited. we just thought, if someone will give us the chance to do this, you know, this will be the best job of our lives. and we looked at each other, and it felt like that tough question was going to decide our fate. and luckily the night before, we'd been discussing this and we thought we knew. and so, we said -- you know, we'll tell you after. >> seth: you should. >> and he kind of smiled a little bit, and he didn't say yes or no but he just kind of smiled. then, the next day we had the gig, so. >> seth: that's great. what's great about that is i feel like nerds everywhere sit with their friends and have conversations about, what do you think this is? and you guys actually had a chance to then answer the question you discussed and it's like what everyone would hope is that one day you're going to get asked that question you wasted all this time talking about. [ laughter ] >> you were the ultimate nerd. >> seth: you are the ultimate nerds. [ applause ]

george has said he wrote these books to almost make them impossible to film. he never thought they'd be adapted. one of the things you guys found out that is especially tricky about this show is how hard it is to work with horses. >> yeah. i mean, i think when -- [ light laughter ] when we went into it, we had no idea that it was going to be hard because we were [ bleep ] idiots. >> seth: right. [ laughter ] we had no experience. we'd never produced a television show. we never produced a movie, an internet thing, anything. >> seth: your credit was knowing who john snow's mother was. [ laughter ] >> yeah. i mean, you laugh, but that's the truth. >> ignorance is a powerful weapon. >> seth: absolutely. >> and so going into it, it didn't occur to us that having two characters on horses riding next to each other talking would be incredibly hard to shoot. >> seth: yeah, like you hit it -- >> and that horses are evil. horses are mean. >> i know people think horses are really beautiful and sweet, but they're mean and they've actually hurt some of the things that are beautiful and sweeter, me and dan. [ laughter ] >> seth: if there's anything to take away from today's interview, it's that.

so, if you did it again, less horses? >> but you can't do it. i mean, yeah, maybe they'd be on motorcycles. [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> motorcycles in westeros. seems like it would make our lives so much easier. >> "sons of anarchy" shot on our set or near our set. sorry, that's just a mix-up. but they shot right where we shot in northern ireland for one season and we saw them shooting over there and they're riding their motorcycles and we were so jealous. like, it's so easy. you just get on the motorcycle. it doesn't kick you in the face. [ laughter ] out there opening up their pipes, [ bleep ] messing up our sound. >> seth: you don't have to beat it or anything? >> nothing. they don't poop on anything. >> seth: oh, man. oh, motorcycles are the best. [ laughter ] you guys, i cannot thank you enough for being here. i'm so excited. you've done such a great job with this. congratulations. >> thank you. >> thank you so much for having us. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: david benioff and dan weiss, everybody! "game of thrones" season five premieres april 12th on hbo. and guess what? everyone here in our studio audience is leaving today with a copy of season four on dvd, which is in stores now. we'll be right back with music from marina and the diamonds. [ cheers and applause ] ♪

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>> seth: my next guest just released her third studio album, which hit number one on the itunes pop charts. here to perform the title track, "froot," please welcome marina and the diamonds. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ froot la-la-la-la-la-la juice la-la-la-la-la-la i've seen seasons come and go ♪ ♪ from winter sun to summer snow this ain't my first time at the rodeo ♪ ♪ nature ain't a fruit machine she's gotta keep her credits clean ♪ ♪ good things come

to those who wait but i ain't in a patient phase ♪ ♪ come on fill your cup up looking for some good luck good luck good luck to you hanging like a fruit ♪ ♪ ready to be juiced juiced juiced living la dolce vita ♪ ♪ life couldn't get much sweeter don't you give me a reason ♪ ♪ that it's not the right season babe i love you a lot ♪ ♪ i'll give you all i've got yeah you know that it's true ♪ ♪ i've been saving all my summers for you i've been saving all my summers for you ♪ ♪ like froot like froot baby i am plump and ripe

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♪ that it's not the right season babe i love you a lot ♪ ♪ i'll give you all i've got yeah you know that it's true ♪ ♪ i've been saving all my summers for you i've been saving all my summers for you ♪ ♪ like froot like froot ♪ ♪ ♪ living la dolce vita life couldn't get much sweeter ♪ ♪ don't you give me a reason that it's not the right season ♪ ♪ babe i love you a lot i'll give you all i've got

yeah you know that it's true ♪ ♪ i've been saving all my summers for you i've been saving all my summers for you ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: marina and the diamonds! "froot" is available everywhere now! we'll be right back. [ cheers and applause ]

[ cheers and applause ] >> seth: my thanks to jeremy piven, david benioff and dan weiss. marina and the diamonds, everybody. t-moblie and of course the 8g band. stay tuned for "carson daly," we'll see you tomorrow. [ cheers and applause ] ♪

♪ >> carson: what's happening, everybody? this is the skylark. i'm carson daly and you are watching "last call." here's what's about to hit your screen. for our music tonight, go city invades the fonda. also, coming up jonny two bags is in the "last call" snapshot. but, first up mary elizabeth winstead is here to tee up her two latest projects. the supernatural series "the returned." and the new film "faults." for more we go to aventine for the "last call" spotlight. ♪ >> "scott pilgram" has become kind of a cult classic already,