[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers." tonight -- jennifer garner, msnbc host and journalist stephanie ruhle, music from bebe rexha, featuring the 8g band with allison miller and pearl. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] ladies and gentlemen, seth meyers. >> seth: good evening. i'm seth meyers. how is everybody doing tonight? [ cheers and applause ] that is great to hear. in that case, let's get to the news. after the "new york times" published an op-ed anonymously written by a senior white house

official yesterday criticizing president trump, trump tweeted, quote, "treason, question mark." even weirder, mike pence tweeted back, "sure, let's do it." [ laughter ] a spokesman for housing secretary ben carson said today that carson did not write the anonymous "new york times" op-ed by senior white house official. hey, don't worry, literally no one thought it was you. [ laughter ] we didn't even know you were awake. [ laughter ] according to "the washington post," after "the new york times" published an op-ed anonymously written by a senior white house official, president trump told a friend that he could only trust his children because they don't know how to write. [ laughter ] "well, i know it wan't either of you two bozos." [ laughter ] former white house press secretary sean spicer said in an interview today that he believes many trump administration officials are burnt out. while the president himself just looks burnt. [ laughter ] president --

[ cheers and applause ] president trump today thanked a north korean leader kim jong-un for saying he had, quote, "unwavering faith in president trump," which is only going to make it harder when trump sees kim's "new york times" op-ed. [ laughter ] a pilot flying over a cape cod beach today spotted eight great white sharks in the water. unfortunately he didn't spot the one that was right behind him. [ laughter ] just so you know, that's by far my favorite of all these. [ laughter ] a japanese hotel now has a robotic motion detecting dinosaurs that check guests in at reception. or, if you want to see robotic dinosaurs here in america, watch brett kavanaugh's confirmation hearing. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] a company has developed $1,500 mirror that has an

embedded video screen that can live stream fitness classes into people's homes. and then three months after you buy it, you can hang your clothes on it. [ laughter ] researchers in croatia believe they have discovered the world's oldest cheese which dates back 7,000 years. they found it at little caesars. [ laughter ] according to new research, more than one in four people have deleted the facebook app from their phones, while others deleted it, then re-downloaded it, checked it, got into a fight, and then deleted it again. [ laughter ] and finally the nfl's green bay packers have added several new concession items to their menu for the new season. including a bratwurst covered in a blanket of fried cheese curds stuffed in a pretzel bun. man, pretty soon nobody's gonna be able to stand for the anthem. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] ladies and gentlemen, we have a fantastic show for you tonight. her new movie "peppermint" is in

theaters this weekend. jennifer garner is here tonight. [ cheers and applause ] so happy to have her back on the show. she's the host of "msnbc live with stephanie ruhle," stephani ruhle joins us. [ cheers and applause ] very excited about that. and we have an amazing performance you won't want to miss from bebe rexha back on the show, as well. [ cheers and applause ] so you're here on a good night. before we get to any of that, the white house has been rocked yet again by an anonymous warnings about the president's fitness for office, and yet republicans are still moving forward with his supreme court pick. for more on this, it's time for "a closer look." ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: trump is being allowed to fill a lifetime seat to the nation's highest court despite constant leaks about how dangerous and erratic he is. every day new details emerge from famed journalist bob woodward's upcoming book "fear," whose cover looks like a lifetime movie poster about an evil stepfather. [ laughter ] and those details confirm that trump is as vulgar and petulant in private as he is in public.

in the book, even his own aides describe trump as an unhinged idiot and professional liar who acted like, and had the understanding of a fifth or sixth grader. [ laughter ] of course, you don't need a book to know that. [ laughter ] you just need eyeballs and ear holes. [ laughter ] trump is in private exactly who he seems to be in public. it's both shocking and not surprising at the same time. i mean, the guy literally misspelled his own wife's name in a tweet. [ laughter ] not like he's doing that in public and then in private besting world leaders in games of chess. [ laughter ] "bad news, angela, it seems you failed to counter act my queen's gambit by taking my pawn. and now my knight has your king in check. [ light laughter ] so if you'll excuse me i have to meet my wife, melanoma." [ laughter and applause ] now one of the most eye-catching allegations in the book is that trump's closest aides have resorted hiding documents from him to stop him from signing or reading them.

>> woodward described an administrative coup d'état and the nervous breakdown of the executive branch with senior aides conspiring to pluck official papers from the president's desk so he couldn't see or even sign them. >> woodward also details the actions of some top aides in the white house including former economic adviser goldman sachs's veteran gary cohn. quote, according to woodward, cohn stole a letter off trump's desk that the president was intending to go sign to formally withdraw the u.s. from a trade agreement with south korea. >> porter consulted cohn, gary cohn, who told him, according to woodward, quote, "i can stop this, i'll just take the paper off his desk." >> seth: the craziest thing about that story is that if you steal a piece of paper from trump's desk, he won't even know it's gone. [ laughter ] he's like who's blown away by the first half of a magic trick. "oh, my god, how did you get that lady inside the box?" [ laughter ] this isn't even first time there's been an explosive allegation from a tell all book

about how the trump white house deals with paper. you might remember that just a few weeks ago former trump aide omarosa manigault-newman wrote in her book that she once saw trump eat paper in the oval office. [ laughter ] now in fairness maybe he was just eating it so gary cohn couldn't steal it first. [ laughter ] gary comes in late at night looking for it and then trump flips on a light and says, "oh, are you looking for your paper, gary? [ laughter ] because i'm afraid i put it somewhere safe in my belly. [ laughter ] now if you'll excuse me, i have to meet my wife, majorca?" [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] but the book -- but the book is also filled with stories from trump aides who have loyally served him and agree with most of his agenda. trying to cast themselves as heroic saviors protecting the public from the whims of a madman. for example, cohn threatened to resign after trump's comments on charlottesville. but trump persuaded his economic advisor to stay on. chief of staff john kelly then confided to cohn that he shared

cohn's horror, trump's handling of the tragedy and shared cohn's fury with trump. kelly told cohn, "i would have taken that resignation letter and shoved it up his ass six different times." [ light laughter ] man, i would have loved to see that conversation. "i'm going to shove this resignation letter up your ass." "oh, yeah? well, i'm going to shove it in my mouth and it'll end up in the same place. [ laughter ] second, it's easy to talk tough but unless you're actually willing to resign and tell the american people everything you know, then your tough talk is worthless. john kelly is like a kid who tells his friends he's going to stand up to the bully who steals his lunch money and then when lunchtime comes, tells the bully, "keep shaking there's more in my back pocket." [ laughter ] now trump has denied all of this and yesterday in the oval office he called woodward's book a work of fiction, but that's not what he told woodward on the phone when he called him just a few weeks ago to complain that he hadn't been interviewed for the book. woodward recorded the call and trump was very complimentary. >> i spent a lot of time on this, talked to lots of people -- >> all right, good. >> and as you know and are

living, we are at a pivot point in history. >> right. >> and i would have liked to have done that and i maximized my effort. >> right. >> and somehow it didn't get to you or -- >> it's really too bad because nobody told me about it, and i would have loved to have spoken to you. you know i'm very open to you. i think you've always been fair. >> seth: oh, my god. how is there always a secret tape that contradicts everything trump says? [ laughter ] although i guess i shouldn't be surprised the same guy who can be tricked into not signing a piece of paper doesn't realize everyone around him has a gopro strapped to their heads. [ laughter ] but, hey, in fairness to trump, he probably didn't know he was being recorded. >> i'm turning on -- >> good. >> my tape recorder -- >> oh, that's okay. >> with your permission. [ light laughter ] >> that's okay. >> seth: oh, my god. [ laughter ] he's like a -- [ cheers and applause ] he's like bank robber who waves at the security camera.

[ laughter ] the craziest part of this phone call is when trump explains that his aides never asked him if he wanted to do an interview with woodward because they were too afraid. >> it's a chance missed, and i do not know how things work over there in terms -- >> very well. >> of getting to you. [ laughter ] >> well, if you would call madeleine in my office. did you speak to madeleine? >> no, i didn't but i -- >> madeleine is the key. she's the secret because she's -- >> well, i talk to raj about it. >> she's the person. >> i talked to kellyanne. >> a lot of them are afraid to come and talk, but you never called for me. it would have been nice, bob, if you called for me in my office. i mean, i have a secretary. i have two, three secretaries. if you would have called directly, a lot of people are afraid. >> seth: so to recap, trump says bob woodward's book is a work of fiction because he never spoke to woodward because his aides were too afraid to talk to him about doing an interview for woodward's book which is literally called "fear." [ laughter and applause ] trump is such a bad liar, even his lies prove that he's lying.

[ light laughter ] "your book called 'fear' is totally inaccurate and i would have told you that if my aides weren't too afraid to come talk to me. [ laughter ] now, if you'll excuse me, i have to meet my wife, mesothelioma." [ laughter and applause ] for almost two year's we've had this frustrating spectacle, trump's closest aides anonymously warning us that the president they work for is erratic and dangerous but refusing to actually do anything about it. and yesterday we got the most stunning example of that yet from an anonymous op-ed in "the new york times" titled, "i am part of the resistance inside the trump administration," warning about trump's behavior. and now the op-ed has put trump supporters in the weird position of having to defend the president's mental health. like south carolina senator lindsey graham who said this wednesday on cnn. >> to those who believe that this man is a fool, that this man is crazy, that there's something wrong with donald trump and it's just the people around him that keep us safe, you don't know what you're talking about.

>> seth: yeah, if you're out there saying he's a kook or he's crazy or he's unfit for office, you don't know what you're talking about. >> i think he's a kook. [ laughter ] i think he's crazy. i think he's unfit for office. >> seth: oh, my god, the author of the op-ed was lindsey graham! [ laughter ] that would explain the paragraph where he calls trump crazier than a wet mule eating corn through a picket fence. [ laughter ] but this week has been a perfect distillation of the gop's complicity of the trump debacle because even as a parade of trump officials quietly warn the public that he's unfit for office, they're letting him hang around to fill a lifetime seat in the supreme court with his hand-picked nominee brett kavanaugh. and in his confirmation hearing so far kavanaugh has been exactly the kind of loyal partisan trump would want. for example, he's been asked a series of questions that could be crucial to the russia investigation, like can the president pardon himself, does he have to comply with a subpoena? and every time he has refused to answer even those basic questions. >> president trump claims he has

an absolute right to pardon himself. does he? >> the question of self-pardon is something i've never analyzed. >> can a sitting president be required to respond to a subpoena? >> so that's a hypothetical question. >> seth: no, it's not. the president's lawyer rudy giuliani is on tv every day talking about how trump would just ignore a subpoena. you know, this guy, always looked like he just had a resignation letter shoved up his ass. [ laughter ] i mean it's mind-boggling that we're even considering allowing the president to fill a lifetime seat on the supreme court while his own aids warn the public that he's unfit for office. but that's corrupt bargain the gop has made. they're not heroes containing trump, they're collaborators working with him even though they know he's -- >> a kook. [ light laughter ] >> seth: this has been "a closer look." ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: we'll be right back with jennifer garner, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] ♪

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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: give it up for the 8g band right over there.

also this week, our drummer is from right here in new york city. she's one of our favorites. we're always happy to have her back. the new album from her band science fair is available september 21st. give it up for allison miller, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] also sitting in with us this week, it's a been an absolute delight to have her. she's an amazing vocalist whose her new album "heartbreak and canyon revelry" is available now. and everyone in the audience is receiving a three-song sampler download card tonight. pearl is here, everybody. give it up for pearl. [ cheers and applause ] thank you both. our first guest tonight is a golden globe winning and emmy-nominated actress you know from "alias" and such films as "13 going on 30," and "dallas buyers club." she stars in the action-packed film "peppermint" which is in theaters tomorrow. let's take a look. >> hurts doesn't it? knowing that it's all over and there's nothing you can do about it.

you didn't serve justice, your honor. i will. >> seth: please welcome back to the show our friend, jennifer garner, everyone. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ ♪ >> seth: how are you? [ cheers and applause ] >> great. >> seth: happy to have you here. >> so happy to be here. >> seth: that's why -- i have to say, that's why it's so helpful to have a clip from a movie. because i think if you heard there was a film called "peppermint," you wouldn't naturally -- >> right? >> seth: think it would be a scene like that. >> right, you think -- >> seth: yeah. >> no. >> seth: yes, this is -- >> not that. >> seth: a very -- and i do want to talk about the film. but first, i want congratulate -- you got a star on the hollywood walk of fame. congratulations. [ cheers and applause ] >> yes, i did. do you stand it? i kind of can't believe it. i saw, you know, burt reynolds today. >> seth: yes. >> wonderful -- >> seth: rest in peace. yeah.

>> rest in peace. and i saw him. and i thought, "oh, my gosh. i have a star like he does." >> seth: yeah. >> i mean that's like -- it's still there. it's still there right now while we're talking. >> seth: it's -- yeah. that's not just like -- >> unless they've jackhammered it out. >> seth: i think your safe. >> they do that now. >> seth: they do every now and then jackhammer one out. >> you know. >> seth: but i think you're in the safe zone. >> we'll see today. >> seth: whole family come? did a lot -- >> the whole family came. >> seth: that's really great. >> there were a lot of us. oh, my gosh. >> seth: that's a beautiful photo. look how proud everybody looks. >> oh, yeah. my sister, melissa, my sister, susannah, my nieces and nephews, brothers-in-law. >> seth: that's great. and then -- >> kids, parents, mom and dad. >> seth: and then you had steve carell, bryan cranston -- >> i know. >> seth: -- judy greer, all came to make speeches. >> that was so meaningful. the kind of weird mix of my family who are never at hollywood things and then three of my dear friends speak about me. it was just -- it was really cool. >> seth: it's really cool. it's such an amazing thing while also just being on the street. >> yes, exactly. [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> with gum on it. >> seth: yeah. >> anyway, do you have one? >> seth: i don't. >> oh, shoot. [ laughter ] >> seth: you know, that's one of things -- >> oh, that's awkward. >> seth: i'm glad we brought it up, though.

>> i am too. >> seth: and again -- >> i am too. >> seth: you know what? >> i do. >> seth: i'm so happy for you. i don't even need one. [ laughter ] [ applause ] that's my star? you're my star. so, obviously, this is a -- you are a vengeful mother in this film. >> yes. >> seth: you're -- some bad things have happened to your family. and you're taking it out on the people. >> so angry. i'm so angry in this movie. >> seth: is -- was it -- is it cathartic? is it cathartic to have mom rage? >> deeply cathartic. >> seth: yeah. >> yes, it is. it is deeply cathartic to punch things and to use, you know, learn to use weapons correctly and for pretend and not for real. >> seth: yeah. >> but it is. it's like -- there's something about making this movie that plays out every bit of mom rage you've ever had on the playground or every bit of mom rage you've had like when your child is put in the back of the class and like a -- and you feel like they should be in the front. >> seth: yeah. >> or their feelings are hurt.

>> seth: i'm glad you never actually reacted the way you reacted in this movie. >> right. >> seth: that would be a real -- if any of this stuff was on the playground, that would be a real tmz moment. yeah. >> i'd be wearing something else. >> seth: yeah, exactly. >> yes, yeah. >> seth: it's the same director as the film "taken." >> yes. >> seth: it's just -- >> pierre morel. >> seth: yeah, pierre morel. were you drawn to the idea of doing -- >> for sure. i definitely wanted to work with pierre. because he understands what i believe so firmly which is that an action movie is just a drama. and it's a drama that goes really far and really off the chains. and -- but you have to have the drama there in order to buy the rest of it. >> seth: and -- you know, obviously, the through line of both of "taken" and this film is like also parents and family -- >> right, yes. >> seth: of what people are willing to do which i think anybody can watching those can associate with the character immediately when they know that's -- it's not just a crazy action movie where people are doing these things for no reason. they actually have a core. >> no, it's definitely grounded in something. this woman is fighting for kind of just vengeance for her family and for justice for something that happened to them and the corruption, the broken system

that led to them just being gone with no reason and no recourse for anyone. and she goes off the rails a little bit. and it is a fantasy. it is not a how-to video. [ laughter ] but it is -- it's just satisfying. it's just like when the critics showed up and said that they had cheered in the movie theater. and i know they're going to write -- you know, i don't know what kind of reviews they'll write. but i can imagine. but i know that they had -- they had that feeling of, like, "yeah, get him." you know? >> seth: it's also -- i feel like it's been a long time since the "alias" days -- >> yes. >> seth: which is surprising. because, and i mean this genially, you look the same. so you kind look back and go, "oh, 'alias' was a long time ago." >> come on. yeah, it was. >> seth: did you have to -- was it fun to return to sort of your action roots? >> it was. it had been such a long time since i had done any action. i mean, the last thing i did that was action was "the kingdom." and my daughter learned to crawl. and she's 12. so that was a long time ago, you know? [ laughter ] that's how you kind of -- >> seth: unless she was a really late crawler.

[ laughter ] >> and yet, she was an amazing crawler. and don't cry, too. >> seth: oh, "peppermint," "peppermint," "peppermint." >> this is what's happening right now. but, anyway, yeah, the funny thing was that when i actually started shooting, there would be things where i would do a take. and i would say to the director, "i'm so sorry. i need to do that again." i did that as sidney. >> seth: oh, really? >> yes. >> seth: wow. >> which is the character i played in "alias." >> seth: yes. >> and -- because she is like, i mean, the way i would walk up the stairs, i did it so many times over five years. i would like, take a couple steps, and then look back at the camera and then forward again. and i was like, "hold on a second. hold up. that was -- that was -- it's on abc right now. got to do it again. i'm sorry. >> seth: and did you find -- was your recovery the same as your "alias" days? >> no. >> seth: yeah. >> no, nothing is the same. i mean i just -- i got in a fight. and this guy had a huge rifle. and he twisted my hand.

and i was -- it swelled up. and the crew members are like, "what happened to your hand?" and i was like, "oh, don't worry about it. we've got to keep fighting. we've got to make our day." and then, the next day, they were like, "your hand doesn't look good." and so they brought an x-ray machine to a trailer. [ laughter ] 'cause they didn't want to want to stop shooting. and while they were turning the camera around, they said, "go put your hand in this x-ray machine." and the guy's like, "it looks fine." [ laughter ] and then months later, it's still like this big. and a doctor is like, "yeah, that's a fracture." >> seth: oh, wow. >> i was like -- but i mean -- >> seth: they brought in a prop x-ray machine. >> i survived, right. [ laughter ] i'm okay. but yes, the recovery issues are real at 46. >> seth: yes. >> it's whiplash, a lot of whiplash. >> seth: i -- you know, fortunately your real children, unlike your cinema children, are fine. >> thank goodness. thank god. >> seth: and you post some things on instagram. how old is you're son? >> he's six and a half. >> seth: okay. so he sometimes will leave you art projects. >> sure. >> seth: like -- very gifted. >> okay. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] this is something. this a wonderful drawing he did in your calendar.

>> f-a-r-t. look at his spelling. >> seth: that's incredible. >> look at his penmanship. >> seth: yeah, no, that's what everybody is impressed with. >> i mean it's block letter. you like it, right? >> seth: and i don't want to make it a contest, but this is really amazing, your daughter. she's older. >> yeah. >> seth: so let's give her a break -- you know, give your son a break here. but she made you a 12-foot -- >> oh, my gosh. >> seth: she made you a 12-foot -- >> yes. >> seth: long scarf -- >> yes. >> seth: as a birthday present. >> she just started fourth grade. >> seth: and that -- i was thinking, "what does a 12-foot long scarf look like?" and it's a lot of scarf. [ laughter ] it's mostly scarf, yeah. >> it is. look, she gave it to me. we do birthdays in the morning at our house for some reason. and she gave it in the morning of my birthday. we're about to leave for school. and i said, "i can't wait to wear this." and she said, "it's chilly outside today, mama." and she was like, "you can wear it." and i was like, "yes, i can." [ laughter ] i can. i can. and i will. i look forward to that. >> seth: it's like one of those nature videos where a boa constrictor is eating an antelope. [ laughter ] >> it does. >> seth: congratulations on both

of your kids and the film. and it's always so great to see you. thanks so much for coming by. >> so good to see you too. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: jennifer garner, everybody. "peppermint" in theaters tomorrow. we'll be right back with stephanie ruhle. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ at at&t innovations, we give you more for your thing. here were adding tv and movies from our unlimited plan to the powerful new samsung galaxy note9... ...the perfect device for entertainment & productivity. so, it's essentially the ed helms of devices? how so? well he's both very entertaining and very productive. you think? yeah, i do. and that's my completely unbiased opinion. buy a galaxy note9 and get one 75% off. more for your thing. that's our thing. now for the whole family.im jeans with round the clock comfort. ♪ hurry in for jeans on sale

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>> i do work in the building. >> seth: you have a studio but you do not have a studio audience? >> no, i don't, but this morning, i came in and i see the amazing line because everyone's here to come see your show and i decided to give like a, "hey, you know, anybody from jersey?" i'm like waving, i'm smiling -- not one person talks to me. so i want to say sorry because you all must me totally disappointed. i saw you six hours ago and you're all like, and now i'm the guest. >> seth: no. no, this is a picture. you took this picture. these people are obviously very excited to see you. >> no, not one. not one. not a single one. [ light laughter ] >> seth: well surely, this guy was excited to see you. >> yes. nope. >> seth: really, all right. >> not even remotely. it's like my kids, i'm like, "hey, guys, i'm going on seth meyers, do you want to come?" and they're like, "to talk news?" "no." [ light laughter ] and my husband is like, "who else is going to be there?" and i said, "jennifer garner," and they're like, "what, electra?" 13 going on 30? yes. and i was like, "forget it now"" >> seth: and now, you're not invited. >> no, no. >> seth: we have shown clips from your show before. there's a personal favorite we have.

a lot of times, you have people on your show, people who are defending the trump administration, and sometimes they're a little fast and loose with the facts. you always seem very quick with a factual rebuttal. and here's an example of that that we enjoy. >> are we turning around 4% gdp? when was the last time you heard 4% gdp growth? >> five times during the obama administration. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: so, i mean, certainly to some degree, you are aware of some talking points that they're going to come, and was that one where you just couldn't believe how happy you were to hear something that could so quickly be rebutted? >> well, the thing that's amazing, these are major business guys, and they think, "oh, it's close enough, i'll just say it," and the president loves to say such negative coverage, "everyone is out to get me," but we're living in a house of unforced errors. the president is approaching having told 5,000 lies. >> seth: yeah. >> that makes him --

>> seth: the most ever, he's very happy to tell you. [ light laughter ] >> there you go. that clearly makes him a habitual liar. so fact checking him every day doesn't mean it's negative coverage. the economy -- i mean, that guy knows the economy. what president obama didn't do was sell the economy well. president trump is a fantastic salesman, but like a used car salesman, he's not telling the truth and it is our job to fact check him. so we do. >> seth: when someone like that comes on, and this happens a lot, do you think, you know, a trump-supporting ceo like that, do you think he actually believes what he's telling you or does he just think he's going to be able to slide it by? because, certainly, you would think he would know that it happened five times under the obama administration. >> without a doubt, but i think they think, "oh, it's close enough, and in the world of president trump, things are close enough." because one thing he has done is give people confidence, consumer confidence is up, business confidence is up, because he gets people excited. the problem is there aren't the facts to back it up and they don't think anyone is actually going to check.

and in this short-term environment, people don't. president trump makes people feel good. when they watched him on tv, on "the apprentice," it was primetime. they were sitting in their house on their couch and he's, "i'm this business guy, i'm this real estate guy, i don't take anything from anyone." people built a relationship and they trusted that. >> seth: you were in business for a long time before you were in television. what is your take, you know, coming from the world of finance, is this idea of trump is a great businessman, is it a mirage or is there something to the idea that he was good at this other thing before he was president? >> well, if you were to compare him to mitt romney, when mitt romney ran, all of his peers in private equity backed him. when president trump ran, you didn't see anyone from the big real estate universe. you didn't see any big new york business people back him. you saw people in middle america who wanted a change. and the thing is he did a brilliant thing in that he went to see them. those rallies were in places where i haven't visited.

i don't know if you visited. and it gave people hope. the twisted thing is he gave them hope without an actual resolution. he had the smarts to say i'm going to solve income and inequality, but he's not doing it. when he says, "i'm going to go after trade," that's a good idea. there are issues. china? yeah, there's problems there, but what he's actually doing makes no sense. and he said, "intellectual property or artificial intelligence, we're going to go after that." president trump, if you asked him about ai, no joke, he would think it was a steak sauce. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> so what he's offering the american people -- [ cheers and applause ] he's a brilliant marketer with no real solutions, and the country needs solutions. >> seth: you know, he falls back on the economy every time it seems like he's cornered. is there anything missing because like you said, consumer confidence is up, you know, business confidence is up. is there an argument to be made that he's making a fair point when he says, "hey, despite everything and despite how it's

a circus at the white house, the economy is good," or is there something that he's leaving out there? >> well, there's something to remember. the economy was good before president trump took office. it was a slow and steady climb out of the financial crisis. what obama didn't do was sell it very well. he's a -- somewhat of a, not a soft spoken guy, but certainly more humble than trump. everyone is. >> seth: yeah. [ light laughter ] >> and when trump says things are great and it's trickling down, it's not. we have lots of people with jobs, and that's great, but they just don't pay enough money. and so this idea that things are going to trickle-down, if you look at republicans that running for office now in the midterms, they don't talk about the economy because they know in their states people aren't living comfortably. it's those who don't need to run again. they're saying, "look at this economy, it's great." it's great for big business. right after trump won, i don't know if you remember, he snuck out of trump tower and he went to the 21 club, right? one of the fanciest restaurants in new york. lots of people love it. filled with wealthy people, and

he said, "i'm going to lower your taxes." and he did. so president trump wanted to impress and do this for the wealthiest people and he has done that. the concern is that people who voted for change aren't going to get that change. >> seth: i showed one of your greatest hits, and again, i'm a fan of your work, but i do -- i think it's only fair to show what really one of the flubs of the year. i have to tell you, i loved it. we were really happy when you did it. >> i'm glad you were. my kids were too. my kids were. >> seth: this i will say, if your mom was on tv and you were a kid, you'd be very happy about this. so here you are not as sharp as you were earlier. let's take a look. >> as california is farting, excuse me, fighting, the largest wildfire in the state's history. [ laughter ] they're farting. >> well, there are a lot of vegans in california. >> seth: that's true. [ laughter ] >> there are a lot of cleanses that go on. so they could be farting. >> seth: no, right. they're farting the wild fires. >> they could be farting.

listen, i did not get into television until i was 36. >> seth: yeah. >> so if you wanted a tv presenter who is a teleprompter super star with perfect posture and all of those things, then you picked the wrong girl. >> seth: no, i want, you know, once a year someone who actually says farting. [ light laughter ] >> you know what, we're going to be keep it real and you know, farting happens. >> seth: it does happen. thank you so much for being here. it's such a pleasure to meet you. >> thank you. >> seth: really appreciate it. stephanie ruhle, everybody. "msnbc live with stephanie ruhle" airs weekdays at 9:00 a.m. and "velshi and ruhle" airs weekdays at 11:00 a.m. on msnbc. we'll be right back with more "late night." [ cheers and applause ] ♪ okay... we're in this together. the splashes the lessons the friendships and...

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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back, everybody. sorry to do this, but if i may, there's something that's been bothering me that i need to get off my chest. i'm in the elevator earlier today, just me and this one other guy. and when he gets off at his floor, he turns to me and he says, "have a good one," and i'm like, "have a good what?" and he says, "huh." and i say, "you said, "have a good one," so i'm asking you, "have a good one what?"

but then, he just stares at me until the doors closed. and i'm sorry, but i gotta say it, these casual pleasantries can all go straight to hell. >> at this point in the broadcast, seth launched into a spontaneous and profanity filled rant about casual pleasantries and how he believes they are the worst thing in the english language. due to the obscene nature of his comments, network policy prevents us from broadcasting them. but due to a technical issue, we are forced to air the video portion of the show. in short, seth's position is that words are important and casual pleasantries are like hot air balloons. colorful but ultimately empty and by the time the ride's over, you're 20 miles away and have pissed in your pants. [ light laughter ] he then sternly declared that he will never have a good one nor will he ever take her easy. and if you say "ciao" and you're not italian, you can "ciao" down on my sack. seth then took issue with the expression, "don't be a stranger," saying, "how could i be a stranger, you know me." you would never say don't be a stranger to an actual stranger, at which point, an actual stranger appeared near his desk

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[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: my next guest is a chart toping artist whose album "expectations" is out now. back on the show performing her latest hit "i'm a mess," give it up for bebe rexha, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ everything's been so messed up here lately pretty sure he don't wanna be my baby ♪ ♪ oh he don't love me

he don't love me he don't love me he don't love me ♪ ♪ but that's okay 'cause i love me yeah i love me yeah i love me ♪ ♪ yeah i love myself anyway hey everything's gonna be alright everything's gonna be okay ♪ ♪ it's gonna be a good good life that's what my therapist say everything's gonna ♪ ♪ be alright everything's gonna be just fine it's gonna be a good ♪ ♪ good life >> new york city. ♪ i'm a mess i'm a loser i'm a hater ♪ ♪ i'm a user i'm a mess for your love it ain't new i'm obsessed ♪ ♪ i'm embarrassed i don't trust no one around us i'm a mess ♪ ♪ for your love it ain't new ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ nobody shows up unless i'm paying ♪

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♪ ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: my thanks to jennifer garner, stephanie ruhle, bebe rexha, everybody! [ cheers and applause ] allison miller, pearl, the 8g band. stay tuned for carson daly, we'll see you tomorrow. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> carson: good evening and

welcome to the show.