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massacre in ukraine and calls to try va vladimir putin for war crimes. while seth doane talks to a man who uncovered the death claims that made putin a very rich man. te dollar bill proclaims "in god we trust," but who do you trust when you invest in so-called digit dollar unravels cryptocurrencies. >> reporter: they're digit currencies that by-pass the government. >> it's very confusing. we're in the very, very early stages. i liken this to the 1994 of th internet. >> reporter: coming up on "sunday morning," a practical guide to using the new currencies for anyone who is used to

using the old kind. >> pauley: so often the women behind our presidents offered their own fascinating stories. lesley stahl is talking with the actors starring in the new tv series "the first lady." >> well, let me tell you about something. >> michelle pfeiffer plays betty ford. >> i am your wife, not one of your girlfriends. >> gillian anderson plays eleanor roosevelt. >> explain that. >> and viola davis plays michelle obama. >> i didn't know until i started investigating and doing research, who these women were beyond the images that we saw. >> later on "sunday morning," first ladies of the united states. >> pauley: speaking of starring roles, actor beanie feldstein is about to take on barbra streisand's signature performance in "funny girl," now on broadway.

as she tells our mo rocca, it is an exciting yet intimidating prospect. ♪♪ ♪ people who need people ♪ >> reporter: barbra streisand was a sensation when she played fanny brice 58 years ago. >> hello, gorgeous. >> reporter: when beanie feldstein was asked to audition for the revival, this was her reaction... >> am i allowed to curse. >> reporter: was it a combination of feelings. >> oh, my god, my god, oh, my god. >> reporter: beanie feldstein and the original funny girl ahead on sunday morning. >> pauley: we look at the career of randy rainbow. faith salie looks into the case of an exhibit celebrating sherlock holmes. we'll remember the life and music of folk legend woody guthrie, and we have a story from steve hartman and more on this sunday

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♪♪ >> pauley: ukraine's president zelenskyy is demanding world leaders mount a swift response to friday's train station attack on civilians in eastern ukraine. he called the attack yet another example of russian war crimes. our david martin looks into the charges and the brutal history of war crimes. >> reporter: more than 50 innocent people trying to flee the fighting, killed in a russian missile attack on a crowded train station. among the first responders, investigators gathering evidence to determine if this is a war

crime. war is full of unspeakable violence and civilians always suffer. but it is a crime to kill civilians on purpose. >> we're seeing a pattern of deliberate attacks against civilians. >> reporter: ambassador beth van schaack is the state department official in charge of assembling evidence that could prove russia is committing war crimes in ukraine. every day it seems there is another crime scene to investigate. some of them encompass entire cities where residents are being relentlessly bombarded by the russians. >> i think the mariupol theater attack is emblematic of that. obviously civilians full of individuals who were sheltering from the war around them, and it gets deliberately targeted by russia's forces. >> reporter: how do you distinguish between a war crime and atrociously bad behavior? >> we need to focus on

deliberate attacks against civilians. those are clear war crimes. there is no fog of war here, right? if you look at a map, for example, of mariupol, you can see where the military objectives might be, which would be appropriate targets for a military campaign. and then you see where the actual strikes were happening. >> reporter: then there are the streets of bucha. >> individuals who clearly were in custody with their hands tied, shot execution-style, left in basements, left in fields. this is not just shells coming from miles and miles away. this is close-range violence committed at the hands of russian forces. >> reporter: have you seen any evidence that the russians are actually trying to cover up crimes? >> chillingly, less of that than you might expect. bodies are left in the streets. they sem to be doing this in an unbelievably brazen way that is really shocking. >> reporter: who do you go after first, the perpetrator who pulled the

trigger, the commander of the tro troops, or their leaders back in moscow? >> frankly, always the above. but you're always looking to go up the chain of command. >> they could go to more senior ranks because of the massive evidence that is available. >> reporter: justice richard stone, the commissioner of war crimes committed in bosnia in the 1990s, says the key is establishing the chain. >> it may be hartoput it at the door of president putin and senior generals, but if what we're seeing in bucha is repeated in one village or another, there obviously is an order for that system to be carried out. >> reporter: it took years to investigate bosnia, but the dictator,

slobodan milosevic ended up in the international court in the hague. >> president milosevic never thought he would be standing trial in the hague, but there was a revolution in this country and he was kicked out and bundled off to the hague. >> reporter: milosevic was small fry compared to president putin. >> you saw what happened to putin -- he is a war criminal. >> reporter: how do you make a case against putin? >> because he essentially an autocrat, with complete control over the russian state and the russian military. it is actually a must easier case than we've seen in some other situations. >> reporter: do you need some kind of verbal direction that he gave to his commanders? >> even without the so-called smoking gun order, there is still this idea of command responsibility. the images are so stark. it is so clear his troops

are running amuck on terrorizing the civilian population within ukraine. >> reporter: have you heard anything putin has said to date that could be used against him as evidence of a war crime? >> it is more what he hasn't said that is important. he must know the facts, hing his own television screen, and if he hasn't taken steps to stop it, that will make him guilty of a war crime. >> reporter: will vladimir putin every be indicted for war crimes? >> i think he will be indicted. i'm not sure if he will be in custody. >> if president putin remains in russia, he will not stand trial in the hague, but it should not disuade prosecutors from going ahead with their work. >> reporter: an indictment of putin would make the president of russia an international fugitive. >> it is not easy for the

ahead of state to fear being arrested when he or she puts foot in a european country or a north american country. >> he is now trapped in russia. he would never be able to travel internationally, because it would be too great a risk he would be captured and brought before a a court of law. they will enjoy some impunity while they stay in russia. but we have seen perpetrators don't stay in their home states. they want to go shopping in europe or go on vacation, and they get identified, and we are never more integrated than we are now. >> reporter: if no russian ends upstanding trial, will this effort have failed? >> i don't think so. i think it is incredibly important to document the truth of what is happening, if only for the purposes of keeping an accurate history of this horrific moment in time, but also for the benefit of the victims and the

survivors. >> pauley: correspond david martin. by some estimates, vladimir putin is worth more than $200 billion. seth doane speaks with a businessman who has made it his life's work to expose the web of corruption behind putin's immense wealth. >> all of a sudden the world cares about vladimir putin's evil. >> reporter: bill browder, a putin target himself, says the war in ukraine is sharpening the world's focus on the russian president's, quote, "evil." but that has long been collar to this american-born businessman. it was in this london park that browder says he received an alarming phone call. u.s. intelligence had learned he might be kidnapped and taken to russia. >> my safe wo world in london completely evacuated. >> reporter: it started after he moved to russia in the 1990s, that

profited from the privatization following the fall of the s soviet union. they researched russian companies initially to invest. >> what we discovered was that the oligarchs and corrupt officials who control these companies were stealing all of the profits, all of the assets, out of the companies. the only way i felt like i could responsibly if i could figure out how they're doing the stealing and try to stop them. >> reporter: not a way to make yourself very welcome in russia. >> it is interesting because at the beginning of this moment, vladimir putin was fighting with the same guys i was fighting with. but it turned out he wasn't trying to end the oligarch era. he just wanted to become the biggest oligarch himself. this gives you some sense of the money. >> reporter: he showed us some of the elaborate

money operations he helped to uncover. >> the whole idea of money laundering is to make it so complicated that nobody could put together a chart like this. >> reporter: it takes an investment guy who has moved to rush to do this? >> it takes an investment guy whose lawyer and friend was brutally murdered, and who has made it his mission, to go after the murderers who did this. >> reporter: that lawyer and friend was sergei magnitsky, who was investigating a tax fraud scheme on browder's behalf. >> a bunch of russian officials seized my documents and organized an identity theft of my companies, and organized for a $230 million tax refund back to the stolen companies so they can enjoy the money. sergei was the person who figured out the whole $230 million tax rebate fraud. >> reporter: sergei magnitsky then provided testimony to the russian

state investigative committee. >> five weeks after sergei testified, the same officials who he testified against arrested him, and put him in pre-trial detention in russia, where he was tortured to get him to withdraw this testimony. >> reporter: sergei magnitsky died in a russian jail in 2009. he was 37 years old. do you feel responsible for his death? >> i do. >> reporter: how do you deal with that? >> i made a vow to his memory, to his family, to myself, that i was going to devote all of my time, all of my energy, and all of my resources to go after the people who killed him, to make sure they face justice. >> reporter: he lobbied for a landmark piece of legislation called "the magnitsky act." signed into law in 2012, it focused attention on the corruption they'd uncovered. >> part of the money from the scam went to purchase

a whole bunch of properties. >> reporter: some of that money wound up in london, new york, and dubai. so you have people in the tax office with neighboring villas? >> correct. >> reporter: he search for justice was the basis for a best-selling book, "freezing order," published by simon & schuster, which owns cbs. it is the tale of what happened next, a true story of money laundering, murder, and surviving vladimir putin's wrath. some of this sounds like something out of a mob mafia movie. >> vladimir putin is the mafia boss. it's like the sopranos, like the new jersey mafia and the brooklyn mafia, and they can take as much money as they can steal, and then ve to pay the boss. >> reporter: he alleges some of that stolen $230 million ended up in vladimir putin's hands, a

leader infamous for his shadowy wealth. the official salaries are about $140,000 annually, which raises some obvious questions. >> inside putin's $1.4 million residence -- >> and his $700 million yacht. >> with a million watch collection. >> reporter: putin has long maintained sergei magnitsky died of a heart attack and his anamous towards browder was clear in this 2018 press conference. >> we can bring up mr. browder. >> reporter: when he suggested to donald trump that russia might be willing to swap 12 indicted russian military intelligence officers if the u.s. would turn over bill browder. >> i was in shock. >> reporter: he has successfully campaigned for other countries to adopt the act to target corrupt officials and human rights abusers, and browder is proud it is now

among the sanctions used to punish russia since the insegence of ukraine. >> i feel hard broken because if the people had listened more of what i was saying over the last 10 years, perhaps we wouldn't be in this situation. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ voltaren. the joy of movement.

>> pauley: it has no intrinsic value, and you can't hold it, and often you can't spend it. so what is it about cryptocurrencies? david pogue explains. >> if you haven't heard of crypto, you clearly have not been watching tv. >> crypto. >> crypto. >> i don't think so. >> reporter: if you're not quite sure what qipt cryptois, in the next seven minutes you'll learn everything there is to know about crypto that is possible to learn in seven minutes. it's at easy as one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. number one, bitcoin was only the first crypto. crypto is short for cryptocurrencies. bitcoin was the original one and it is still by far the most popular. but there are over 10,000 different cr cryptocurrencies. anyone can start one up.

number two, they're digit. if you go to google and type in bitcoin, you get thousands and thousands of pictures of physical metal coins. don't be fooled. the only place you could see cryptocurrencies is on your phone or computer screen. the only cash register is the internet. and crypto is not easy to spend. it may not strike you as a regular currency. ffofor now, you'll have a really hard time spending it. >> do you take bitcoins? >> unfortunately, no. >> do you take bitcoins? >> no, no. >> reporter: do you take bitcoins? >> actually, we do, sir. >> reporter: you do? here is what it looks like to pay for lunch with crypto. i'm going to send 25 bucks. do you have the little code thing?

it is going to send me a verification code, 2808216, and submit. >> yeah. >> reporter: number four, banks and governments aren't part of the chain, so crypto needs a trustworthy way to track all of those transactions. and that is what the block chain is. a theoretically tamper-proof public online data base. >> different parties who don't know each other and certainly don't trust each other can trust that that shared ledger is the so-called golden copy of all of the copy. >> reporter: caitlin long is the c.e.o. for custodia bank. and at websites like block chain.com, you can look at the transactions hapening in realtime, all essentially anonymous. if you can't shop with

cryptocurrencies, what does it? at this point it is mostly an investment. number five, today crypto is primarily for investors. >> i think it is like probably the biggest bubble of our lifetime. it could be worthless at one point. ryan payne is the president of payne capital investment. >> we use oil, even gold. whereas in bitcoin, there is no use for it, which in my mind equals it could be worth nothing. >> reporter: but physical currency is not based on anything physical, either. the dollar has value all because we know that it does. >> it is a piece of linen with a picture of a dead president in green ink printed on it. for the last 20 years,

nothing has been backing it since the u.s. and the rest of the world moved away from the gold standard. that's all it is. >> reporter: number six, you buy and sell crypto at exchange websites. this is what it looks like to buy $50 worth of bitcoin at coinbase.com, which is the largest u.s. address. oh, they want my phone number. they want the last four digits of my social security. and pin number and password. $50, buy now, and i have successfully purchased one/1,000th of a bitcoin. i'm rich, i tell you. number seven, most cryptocurrencies are volatile investments. last may i bought some bitcoin, and in six months

my money has more than doubled. and as of this week, it has crashed almost all the way back down to where it started. number eight, it is going to get easier. >> it is very confusing. we're in the very, very early stages. i liken this to the 1994 of the internet, and it will have a look and feel very much like your online banking. >> reporter: crypto has some other problems to overcome before it is ready for the mainstream: there are all kinds of scams, the transactions are slow, and if you lose your crypto password, you can lose your entire investment, and crypto investments can bypass the sanctions on russia. and there is a terrible environmental cost. creating new bitcoins and confirming their transactions require vast amounts of computers, with vast amounts of powers. it spews out half a ton of

carbon dioxide. i'm trying to figure out how you can look at the same facts as crypto fanatics -- >> we love a great story. finance is a great story. this is human nature doing the what it does over and over again,ut it. >> reporter: caiout drea perfect system by any stretch, but it will make things better, faster, cheaper, and, quite frankly, more secure. >> reporter: number polarizing. you can't believe how many haters and how many fanatics there are, but in this early stage in the life of crypto, everyone seems to agree on one thing... >> i certainly would not ever encourage anyone to put more money into this than you can afford to lose. >> my philosophy is: just

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>> pauley: would anyone sdes collecting sherlock holmes

memorabilia. as faith salie tells us, the answer is elementary. >> reporter: it wasn't easy for glen miranker to select what twh wcat created the exhibit sherlock holmes' 21 objects, now on did play in new york city. how many objects are in your collection? >> about 8,000. >> reporter: when you do stop? >> my hope is i will stop the day before i die. >> reporter: it is not hard to deduce while they chose 221 objects. sherlock holmes and his side kick, dr. james watson, share a flat at 221 baker street. there is no mystery why he is fanatical. >> he can do things you and i can't do. he was highly flawed. no doubt, a misanthrop.

and yet he spent his live helping people. >> reporter: first editions, pirated copies, illustrations, and letters. >> a very large part of what interests me about the items in my collection, is why didktory?epo: author sir author doyle -- 59 stories followed. they clammered to get their hands on every new installment, says cathy miranker. >> people would buygane at the , at the train stations, and they would become engrossed, and they would look up, and they missed their stops. >> reporter: the 221 objects offer a little

myth-busting, too. >> interesting, though elementary, said he. >> reporter: elementary? >> yes. now, that may not be the line you remember. you probably remember, "elementary, my dear watson," which actually is not in this story or any story that already conan wrote. >> near the dear stalker hat or the pie appears in any of the stories. >> reporter: what? >> they're not there. the closest we get is this fear stalker which appears in one of the original illustrations but is not mentioned in the story itself. >> reporter: the signature pipe it was from william gillette, who first played the deductive in 1999. >> he said, do you have any objections if i use such a pipe, and conan

doyle said you can do whatever you like. i don't care. >> reporter: perhaps it had something to do with the fact he came to resent the popularity of his hero, so much that he ultimately threw holmes over a cliff. and one of miranker's most priced items -- >> i had been blamed for doing that gentleman to death, but i hold it is not murder by justifiable defense because if i hadn't killed him, he would have killed me. >> reporter: but he never succeed in killing off the old chap. when you talk about sherlock holmes, he sounds like a real person and someone you know. >> he was a real person. in fact, we're not sure he is not with us, still. i'm convinced at 150, give or take, he is still with

us.

♪♪ don't bring around a cloud to rain on my parade ♪ >> pauley: talk about a tough act to follow, mention broadway's "funny girl," and people think of barbra streisand, even though she appeared in the show decades ago. but as mo rocca explains, there is a new girl in town. ♪♪ >> reporter: this is the story of three women, barbra streisand, whose performance in "funny girl" on broadway marked the arrival of an exciting and unlikely leading lady. >> what is you trouble? >> i'm a bag kel on a plate full of onion rolls. ♪ look down and you'll never see me ♪ ♪ i'm greatest star ♪ ♪ i am by far ♪ >> reporter: beanie feldstein, the actress and comedian who 58 years

after streisand opened in the show, is starring in broadway's very first revival of "funny girl." >> hello, gorgeous. >> reporter: and the original funny girl herself, fanny brice, whose life was the inspiration for the musical. >> i was very in love with her ambition, her unapologetic spirit. something just happens when you get to play fanny. this just sort of belief in yourself. >> reporter: belief in herself and talent propelled brice to the heights. ♪ i believe ♪ >> reporter: born in 1891 to immigrant jewish parents, fanny was an eighth grade dropout, who began singing in poolhalland b.

♪ i'm just secondhand ♪ ♪♪ >> reporter: you write that she was literally built for comedy, what do you mean? >> this is the pert little show girl and the up-turned nose and the hail of blonde curls and blue eyes. she had a big nose and a wide mouth. >> reporter: barbara is a theater professor at tufts university and author of a fanny brice biography. >> she knew she wouldn't be the prettiest girl on the stage, so she would be the funniest. >> reporter: audiences knew when she sang "my man," her signature, she was singing about her ill-fated marriage with

con artist phil bronstein. ♪ people, people who need people ♪ are the luckiest people in the world ♪ >> reporter: but by the time barbra streisand starred in "funny girl" on broadway, brice, who died in 1951, was largely forgotten. the 20-year-old streisand made the role very much her own, as she explained in this 1964 opening night back-stage radio interview. did you research the life of fanny brice? >> no. they hired me because of whatever organic things we had similar in the biography. >> reporter: did you see her in the show? >> i would say i'm old enough to have seen her in the show twice. and i just remember being totally dazzled.

♪♪ >> reporter: streisand's ownership of the role is at least one reason the show hasn't been revived until now, says ted chapin, former head of the rodgers & hammerstein organization. >> i think it probably is the barbara factor, but i have a feeling when people thought of doing a revival of it, they looked at the actual show and thought, wait a minute, maybe the charisma that streisand brought to it got us through this show, and made us overlook some of the dramatic bumps in the road. ♪ i'm a great big clump of talent ♪ >> reporter: while streisand received raves back in 1964, the show itself got mediocre reviews. the revival script has been reworked by harvey fierstein, with a cast that includes jane lynch as the hotter of the new funny girl.

enter beanie feldstein, the sister of actor jonah hill, has made her own name playing smart, independent, and funny women in films like lady bird. >> the youngest justice every nominated to the supreme court of the united states. i love being a bagel on a plate of onion rings. >> reporter: it turns out feldstein has been preparing to play fanny brice most of her life. your favorite actress? >> barbra streisand. >> reporter: and how old are you? >> i'm almost 17. >> reporter: i met beanie 12 years ago in upstate new york. >> my mom put funny girl on for me when i was two years old, and my third birthday was funny girl

themed, so i've always been a barbra streisand fan. >> reporter: which may explain her reaction when she was asked to audition for the revival. ♪♪ >> reporter: what did you think immediately? >> oh, my god, oh, my god, oh, my god, this could be the moment i've always dreamt of and fear and self-doubt, all of the things fanny doesn't have, but also this door opening, potentially. ♪♪ >> reporter: if there is fear and self-doubt, it hasn't been evident. ♪ what a feeling ♪ >> a bit of pateé? >> i drink it all day. >> reporter: i love watching you dance. >> i love to dance. >> reporter: feldstein has thrown herself into the role, with the same gumption, and, yes, chutzpah at the original funny girl. >> any funny girl who gets to be on stage owes

something to fanny brice. none of us would have that ability if it wasn't for fanny smashing through these glass ceilings with this "you're not going to turn me away." >> reporter: do you think that streisand will come see this production? >> well, i don't know. i have no idea. i can't really take it in. >> reporter: would you want to know -- >> no, no, no, no, no. nobody tell me. if she even lands in new york, just no one tell me. ♪ people who need people ♪ ♪ are the luckiest people in the world ♪ >> reporter: by the way, the show oper opens on april 24th, barbra streisand's 80th birthday. ♪♪ [applause and cheering]

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>> pauley: take a dose of political satire, mix in a dash of musical theater, add some colorful commentary, and next on our horizon, comedian randy rainbow. here is rita braver. >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome randy rainbow! [applause and cheering] >> reporter: the fans who flock to see randy rainbow's shows -- >> hey, girl. >> reporter: -- are here because they found comic relief from politics and pandemic -- >> you got through it because of me.

>> reporter: -- by watching his satirical videos. ♪♪ >> reporter: often skewering conservative political figures. ♪ because alternative facts are facts that are not facts ♪ ♪♪ >> reporter: they've made him a social media sensation, with hundreds of millions of views. but even his most ardent admirers may not know the real and improbable randy rainbow story. just for starters, your name really is randy rainbow? >> rita, i swear to god it is my name. i know it sounds like the corniest stage name you could choose. i would not do that to myself. it is on my birth

certificate. ♪ once i was a no one, and now i'm blessed ♪ >> reporter: now 40, he grew up first on long island and then in florida, and credits his mother's love of musical of musicas and his knowledge. >> m my mother made me a skirt, and i did this whole tour de force for the neighborhood. >> reporter: how did they like it? >> they loved it. i don't know what the conversations were on the way home. it is really a testament to my mother for not ever making me second guess my decision to do that. >> reporter: he tells it all in his new memoir, it's a portrait of a kid, who found solace doing children's theater. >> i was chubby and

effeminate, and i didn't really fit in. it was a field day for the bullies at school. >> reporter: what do you like about living here? >> i mean, everything. >> reporter: a few years after high school, rainbow moved to new york. ttoo insecure to go on auditions, he did a series of jobs until he got the idea of making comic videos. one of the first using an infamous audio tape of actor mel gibson being abusive to his girlfriend. >> his rants were anti-semitic and homophobic, and i happened to be a gay jew, and i said, i'll date him. i walked around my apartment having romantic discussions with his tirades. >> you're a pain in my ass. >> you're a pain of my ass. >> reporter: his videos

went viral, and eventually, rainbow hit on the idea of spoofing the news. ♪♪ >> reporter: creating himself as a know-it-all reporter. >> and welcome back to the presidential debates. >> i have a great company, and a great income, and i don't say that in bragadotious way. ♪ likes to throw big words around and hopes we all notice ♪ >> that was the break-through video that got 16 million views in the first day. >> reporter: 16 million? >> 16 million. that was a game-changer for me. ♪ how do you measure four years of the lie ♪ >> reporter: he kept

going all through the trump presidency. >> joe -- can i call you joe? >> no. >> reporter: into the biden era. ♪ i'm so tired of quarantine ♪ ♪♪ >> reporter: rainbow not only plays all of the parts, he handles his own wardrobe. >> for executi example, this isa nurse. but their just halloween customs. >> reporter: it all happens in his studios. in his bedroom. >> frankly, i'm often not wearing pants. i put on pants because you're here, rita. >> reporter: we got to watch him in action as he created his latest video. ♪♪ >> i almost said it again. >> and then for the end -- >> reporter: taking on florida governor ron

desantis' law that bans discussion of sexual orientation with young children in classrooms. ♪ because i'm gay, gay, gay, gay, gay ♪ >> reporter: the so-called "don't say gay" law. >> reporter: you say you don't think of yourself as really being political. >> i know. people are surprised when i say that. it is never my intention or primary objective to make a political statement. i'm trying only to be am moving, first and foremost, but i'm poking fun at everybody, all sides and opinions, including my own. ♪ clang, clang, clang went judge holly ♪ >> reporter: there has been some talk you may take this show you have on the road and bring it to broadway? >> we're talking about it. can you imagine this schmuck in his living room making videos making a

show on broadway? i hope, i hope, i hope it is coming. >> reporter: sounds good to me. >> sounds like a happy ending to me.

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>> pauley: eleanor roosevelt, betty ford, and michelle obama, certainly among the many fascinating women to occupy the white house. lesley stahl is talking with the stars portraying these three remarkable first ladies. >> reporter: michelle pfeiffer plays betty ford. >> the e.r.a. has never been concerned with making women paid as men, just equal to. >> i didn't know how much she had done behind the scenes, and how really politically active she actually was. >> reporter: viola davis plays michelle obama. >> in four years, i don't want to look back and think, what did i become living in that house? >> she came into the relationship with her own

agency and autonomy, and all of a sudden she sort of had to trade it in, you know, to become first lady. >> add some hope to it, but you need to state the facts plain and simple. there are 30 million people out of work -- >> reporter: gillian anderson plays eleanor roosevelt. >> i admired her for such a long time. i didn't quite understand thed me. i'm 5' 3" and she was close to 6 foot. are you sure -- >> reporter: but you don't look teeny on television. >> but i fell in love with her in the process and glad i said yes. >> reporter: the portrait of these three first ladies will air on show time, on cbs news' parent company, paramount global. at first glance, these first ladies seem to have

little in common -- >> i have done everything i was supposed to do. >> reporter: but -- >> one of the really strong themes that runs throughout the series is finding their voice, their struggle to be heard. >> so you let him off? >> that is an admission of guilt. >> without consequences for his actions. >> reporter: was surprised, and frankly thrilled, that so much of this series takes place in the bedrooms, where the intimacy of the first family is portrayed for us. and i just want to go through some of the scenes that stick out in my mind. in one, michelle, is when gerry ford pardons nixon, and betty is livid. do you remember? >> oh, yeah. [laughter] >> yeah. it is the angriest that we

see her. >> reporter: you were seething. >> you know that this makes us look complicit, don't you, like we're part of the cover-up. >> she had made a promise to the american people that this family would always be truthful, and i think she held gerry to such a higher standard that she really, really believed in her mind he was going to do the right thing. and, um, i don't -- >> reporter: of course, gerry thought he was doing the right thing. >> well, he thought he was doing that -- well, he thought -- well, he thought he was healing the country, and he knew it was going to hurt him politically. >> reporter: but she was offended? >> because she felt it tainted the family, the honor of the family. >> i'm saying i can contribute. >> i'm saying, with all due respect, you're not qualified.

>> but you were happy to pick me up during the campaign? >> the campaign is over. third quarter is politics. >> reporter: the series takes some dramatic license. viola, one of the scenes that keeps res resonating in my mind is how hostile the relationship between michelle obama and ron emmanuel was. >> i think we took liberty. i actually don't believe that michelle would cuss out rom emmanuel. i think michelle stayed in her lane. >> reporter: if michelle would stay in her lane, why was the decision made she would not be portrayed that way? >> because you know once you get to that white house, as the first black president and the first black first lady, you know what you're up against. >> what rom thinks -- >> stop right there. you tell your work wife that your actual wife said to stay out of our family business. >> got it.

now i have two wives and neither of them are happy. >> it is like the famous quote, "we wear the mask that grins and lies." i'm saying there is a protocol that michelle is aware of, but with rom, we took some liberties, we did, for dramatic purposes. >> three, two, one... >> good evening, ladies and gentlemen. >> reporter: you see, each of the first ladies grow in their public roles. >> she hated public speaking. >> the cabinet is convening. >> and yet she did it anyway. she really, really believed that what she had to say was so much more important than anything that was going on with her and her fears and her self-doubt. >> my doctor advised me that the source of my pain -- iy much deeper.

and he thought it might be a good idea for me to see a psychiatrist. >> reporter: what was the moment when you said, i get this woman, i can play her. >> i saw my mother in her, and i was very moved by that, by women of that generation. revolutions were happening all around them, but they had made a pact already to really live for their husband's ambitions and fulfillments and support them. and all of a sudden the rules of the game change on them, and they were too far in to reverse course. >> it was terrible to have a black family in this house that they elect him? >> this is not about us. >> isn't it? >> reporter: in a way, viola davis had the greatest challenge.

>> everyone knows who michelle obama is. they know what she looks like. they know what she sounds like. they love her. if she had been dead for 100 years -- do you know what i'm saying? >> reporter: i know exactly what you're saying. >> and it behooves me to look at her behavior, her hands, how she holds her pearls, how she holds her lips. it is all of that work before i can g even get to the white house. >> reporter: viola davis feels a special responsibility for this series. >> fashion shoots, gardening -- you want me to be roasted alive as being an elitist and out of touch? >> reporter: tell us how it came about and why you wanted to do it? >> why i wanted to do it in the beginning and then why the hell did i want to do this? i wish i had a better answer. it is a chance for women

to play roles that are complicated, and who these women were beyond the images that we saw on television, and i was, like, are you kidding me? we can get these really awesome actresses every single season and they'll have the ability to shine. >> reporter: so there will be more seasons, with new casts of first ladies shining more light on the struggles, emotions, and flinfluence of these important figures in american history. >> they really are the unsung heros work behind the scenes and working for social justice. they had the courage to really listen to what they felt was just. moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis or psoriatic arthritis, enbrel can help you say i'm in for what's next. ready to create a bigger world? -i'm in. ready to earn that “world's greatest dad” mug? -i'm in.

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>> pauley: steve hartman this morning has the story of a man driven by a most singular vision. >> you're welcome to listen in, but i chose this week's story mainly for an audience of one. this 12-year-old named ted. >> yes. >> ted is my nephew. and he says sometimes his blindness feels insurmountable. >> i felt like udoomed. that does sound a little immature. >> a whoa is me kind of feeling? >> yes. i want to be like everyone else sometimes. >> that's why when i heard about this drag race attempting to set a new world record, i thought

ted and others like him had to make the driver. in 2012, dan parker of columbus, georgia, got in a crash. he suffered a traumatic brain injury so severe it blinded him. >> i never imagined i would be back in the seat of a race car, but i've been a racer all my life. >> a machinist by trade, he then designed this entire race car. >> everything in this car, pretty much, yeah. >> that just amazes me. >> what does he look like? >> mustache and a beard. you have a mustache? >> see, whiskers. i hope nobody sees them. >> don't worry about it. that won't be an issue. last week dan and his crew came here to spaceport, america, to attempt a guinness record: fastest car driven blindfolded. but, of course, no blindfold was needed, but sid drer next toem

him. hands ho hovering over the steeler steering wheel just in case. over 200 miles per hour, set a record and an example. >> i want you to know that blindness is not what is stopping you. surround yourself with believers and go for your dreams. you can make excuses or you can make it happen. >> dan says inspiring the teds of the world is the main reason he did this. and if my nephew is any indication, it was well worth the drive. >> if he can do that, i think i can easily pursue my dreams. what about flying in planes? >> that's exactly what i wanted to come from this.

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>> pauley: he inspired generations of singer/songwriters, from pete seeger to bruce springsteen. now on display, an exhibit devoted to the legendary woody guthrie. ♪ i ain't got no home, just wandering around ♪ >> pauley: he sang a song of america, of its destitute, of its hungry and poor and ruthless. he sang of myers anre crrsactory workers, of fathers who couldn't feed their children, of farmers whose soil had turned to dust. he sang in short about all of us, in all of our perseverance and possibilities. ♪ a rich man took my home and drove me from my door,

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