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these guys didn't write a plan for the homeless. they wrote it for themselves. ♪ ♪ ♪ captioning sponsored by cbs ♪ ♪ ♪ >> o'donnell: tonight, we're live from here outside the supreme court, where a majority may be preparing to overturn the landmark "roe v wade" case that legalized abortion almost 50 years ago. the bombshell leak from inside the nation's highest court: the new details on the investigation tonight as chief justice john roberts calls the leak of the draft decision a betrayal. protests in the nation's capital and around the country. what happens now? the states that could immediately outlaw abortion, and could the decision impact gay marriage and a woma's right to contraception? reaction across america. from outraging to celebration. >> "roe v wade" is going to die! >> o'donnell: the president and lawmakers.
>> "roe v wade" was wrong the day it was decided. >> it rocks my confidence in the court right now. >> i can't tell you the outrage i feel at this decision. tracking severe weather and thunderstorms. law enforcement needs your help to find the accused murderer who broke out of jail. and finally we go person to person with katy perry, talking motherhood with the pop ♪ ♪ ♪ this is the "cbs evening news" with norah o'donnell reporting from the supreme court. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> o'donnell: good evening, and thank you for joining us for a special edition of the "cbs evening news." we are here at the supreme court
tonight ahead of what could be a seismic shift in american law, politics, and society, as tonight, the nation's highest court confirmed the authenticity of this leaked draft decision of a ruling that would overturn abortion precedent in this country. you can hear the protests behind me. what this all means, it could mean striking down "roe v wade" after nearly 50 years, a decision that has caused fierce divides and legal battles in the decades since. but the court also stressing cog to tonight that the opinion is not final until it is officially delivered. and the chief justice, john roberts, calling the release of this secret document an egregious breach of trust. this is unprecedented in our nation's history. reaction to the news is intense. you're looking at live pictures of the protests behind me and what this means depends on where you live. take a look at this map. 13 states have what's called a "trigger law." that would ban nearly all abortions if roe is overturned.
13 more states are poised to outla or restrict the procedure. we have team coverage tonight starting off with cbs' jan crawford with me here at the supreme court. good evening, jan. >> reporter: good evening, norah. this is really a shocking breach of privacy, something that didn't even happen when the presidency was on the line in "bush v. gore." it raises questions about how this court will ever recover and what that final decision will be. the unprecedented leak sent shockwaves through washington as protesters clashed outside the supreme court. >> i think women should maintain the right to choose and have autonomy over their own body. >> i was the product of an unwanted pregnancy, and i certainly believe that i deserved life. >> reporter: amid increased security at the court, chief justice john roberts released a statement calling the leak a betrayal intended to undermine the intellect of our operations
and ordering an investigation into the source. confirming its authenticity, the court said the opinion does not represent the final position ofe opinion t any member. leaked to politico, the 98-page opinion to overturn "roe v wade" is a first draft, dated february 10, in a case challenging mississippi's 15-week ban on abortion, written by justice alito, it says, "roe was egregiously wrong from the start." four other conservative justices, clarence thomas, neil gorsuch, brett kavanaugh, and amy comey barrett reportedly voted in the majority. it's not clear whether roberts would have aloud the mississippe mississippi law to stand without overturning roe over whether he joined the three liberals. if the draft holds, it would represent a triumph of the antiabortion movement which has marched for life every year since the court's landmark 1973 decision that abortion was a constitutional right that states could not ban. the court in 1992 was one vote away from overturning roe.
over the next 30 years, that goal was a republican campaign promise. with justice clarence thomas on record opposing roe, from george w. bush nominated alito. a decade later after the death of justice antonin scalia, then- majority leader mitch mcconnell blocked president obama from filling the seat, giving former president trump the opportunity to nominate gorsuch, and later kavanaugh and barrett. like with every other supreme court confirmation hearing since roe, all were pressed for their view. >> "roe v wade" is an important precedent of the supreme court. >> it has been reaffirmed many times. >> so if i express a view on a precedent one way or another, whether i say i love it or i hate it, it signals to litigants that i might tilt one way or another in a pending case. >> reporter:se are plate answers for appellate judges obliged to follow supreme court rulings. as justices they can rethink them, and arguments in the mississippi case last december it seemed they were ready to rethink roe.
>> o'donnell: and, jan, this leak is unprecedented. what do we know about the investigation? >> reporter: people leak to the media for a lot of reasons-- they're outraged by something, they're disgruntled or in this case they're look to influence a justice, hoping to change his or her vote. there are not a lot of people who would have access to this draft ruling. the chief justice has asked the marshal of the courts to heads- up the supreme court police to launch this investigation, the f.b.i. not involved at this >> o'donnell: it comes at such a momentous time. this decision could affect millions of women. what about the integrity of the court? >> reporter: well, i mean, this decision would have been a blockbuster, no matter what, but it's a body blow to the supreme court because it is used to a long tradition-- this has never happened-- complete confidentiality when the justices are discussing these opinions so they can freely work through their decisions. it will take time for this court to recover. the chief justice in his statement today said the leaker will not succeed in undermining court operations.
that remains to be seen. a decision is expected some time this month or next month. >> o'donnell: you can already hear the protests and more behind us. jan crawford, thank you. well, tonight, as we gauge reaction across the country, our latest cbs news poll shows that a majority of americans do not agree with overturning "roe v wade." 62% of americans want that 1973 ruling to remain in place, while 38% want it struck down. we're hearing tonight from not just voters but also lawmakers, including president biden. from the white house now with the fast-moving developments, here's cbs' ed o'keefe. >> reporter: leaving for a visit to alabama today, president biden strongly criticized the high court's leaked draft. >> reporter: on capitol hill, the news infuriated members on both sides, republicans upset about the leak...
>> as someone who spent an entire career litigating before the supreme court, i'm utterly horrified. >> reporter: ...and democrats worried about the potential legal consequences. >> this is a five-alarm fire. >> i am angry. >> i'm very upset. >> i'm angry, upset, and determined. >> reporter: democratic leaders denounced the three conservative justices nominated by former president donald trump and accused them of lying to the u.s. senate and defiling the supreme court's reputation. two moderate republicans who also support abortion rights agreed. alaska's lisa murkowski: >> if it goes in the direction that this leaked copy has indicated, i will just tell you that it-- it-- it rocks my confidence in the court right now. >> reporter: maine's susan collins said reversing roe would be completely inconsistent with what justices neil gorsuch and brett kavanaugh told her before their confirmation. the president said lawmakers supporting abortion rights
should write them into law. >> i think the codification of murkowski are sponsoring a bill >> reporter: collins and murkowski are sponsoring a bill that would narrowly protect abortion rights but oppose a democratic bill that broadly prevents federal and state governments from limiting access to abortion. chuck schumer says he'll force a vote with republicans who oppose it on record.his andal as it gets. >> reporter: as for this year's midterm elections, democrats believe abortion rights will be a big factor. >> the contours of the november election this year changed. >> reporter: the bombshell leak was on the mind of several voters casting ballots in ohio's primary today. >> i felt particularly... emboldened to come out today and-- i don't know-- a sense of responsibility, especially with a lot of the reproductive rights discussions coming out of the supreme court. >> i'm going to trust and hope that the supreme court does their job and does it
impartially and that this little stunt doesn't affect their rulings. >> reporter: while justice samuel alito writes in the draft decision that the ruling should only concern the right to abortion, want president said today that if it's approved, it could ultimately affect other rights, like the right to same- sex marriage, birth control, and privacy. norah. >> o'donnell: ed o'keefe, thank you. and jan crawford is still with us. so, if the court strikes down planned parenthood versus casey as well, what would that mean for gay rights? >> reporter: you're hearing people say it you're hearing people who oppose overturning both of these decisions saying g it would affect a lot of other right, including gay rights. and of course some of that language in the later 1992 abortion case, casey, is cited and some of the gay rights, liberties there. but there are other decisions that could provide a foundation for these other rights, like gay rights.
>> o'donnell: so good to have you here, jan. thank you so much. and to underscore why this leaked draft decision matters, just today, oklahoma's governor signed into law a bill that bans abortions after six weeks of pregnancy. more than half of all u.s. states are already moving to restrict abortion at 15 weeks or less. that's a time period when 93% of women get the procedure. that's according to the c.d.c. and that would disproportionately impact low- income women and women of color. in some parts of the country, women would need to drive hundreds of miles to a clinic. we get more from janet shamlian. >> reporter: tonight, reaction to the draft opinion could be heard from coast to coast. >> what do we want? >> we want justice! >> reporter: some described hearing the news that millions could lose access to an abortion as feeling like a gut punch. >> i'm just shocked and appalled. i just wonder at what point our
country became a country where people's voices weren't heard anymore. the majority of americans are for pro-choice. >> reporter: while others cheered the opinion that would overturn "roe v wade." >> i feel, abortion is murder, and i feel that way. period. >> reporter: 26 states are poised to outlaw abortion or weaken access if "roe v wade" is overturned. these 13 states have so-called trigger laws, abortion bans that take effect immediately if the court strikes down roe. 16 states are going in the other direction with laws designed to protect abortion rights. among them, illinois. >> as long as i'm governor of illinois and as long as we haves state. and as with everything, the burden will fall disproportionately on the most marginalized women. >> reporter: but virginia's governor, glenn younkin, says he welcomes the decision. >> i do support the fact that this should be a state decision. that state decision is one we're going to have to work with our
legislature to do. >> reporter: providers like houston's dr. bhavil khumar says there's already dwindling access that could quickly disappear. >> i've seen several people each week tell me, "i can't travel out of state. that's not an option." whether it's because they're undocumented, whether they can't afford to travel, going to another state hundreds if not thousands of miles away is not easy to do and for many people not possible. >> reporter: in places like california, abortion will likely remain protected, but there's growing concern. >> it was really scary to me knowing that i thought-- i hoped would be protected for my entire lifetime is no longer protected on a national level. >> o'donnell: and janet shamlian joins us now from houston. you've been in a state that limited abortion rights last septembe. what has that been like? >> reporter: well, it's meant most women who want abortions after aboux have had to pack their bags and travel, places like louisiana, even colorado. and even that may not be possible if the draft opinion becomes law. tonight, there are
demonstrations planned for all over the country, including one right here at city hall in houston. norah. >> o'donnell: and lots of protests behind me, too. janet shamlian, thank you. now to the day's other big story, the war in ukraine. president biden called for more money and military aid for ukraine as he toured a factory that's producing javelin antitank missiles. those weapons have proved critical in ukraine's battle on the front lines. on the ground in ukraine, russian forces launched a full- scale attack on a steel plant in the city of mariupol. some civilians have evacuated in recent days, but hundreds remain trapped inside. cbs' charlie d'agata is in eastern ukraine. >> reporter: russian forces unleashed yet another assault on the steel plant in mariupol, despite the promise of safe passage to those remaining trapped inside. a reckless disregard for human lin
and the east, where they've been trying to overrun the frontline town of lysychansks if weeks. as we arrived, an artillery barrage echoed through deserted streets. with the russians now less than three miles away, only a hand ful of mostly elderly residents remain. this crater is the result of a russian air strike that landed on the doorstep of this apartment block, even as people were sheltering in that basement. residents gather water from a ruptured pipe. vladymyr said he can't leave because his 84-year-old mother is unable to travel. his neighbor, ludmilla, described explosions through the night, sending shards of glass flying. "people who are able to have left," she said. "those with kids, we, the old ones, are staying here." ( explosions in near distance ) doesn't that worry you when you hear that sound? "i kind of got used to," she
said. "i came here for water. what can i do?" despite russia's tactics to bombard from a distance, its ground forces have so far made only modest gains. "it's because they won't fight toe to toe with ukrainian soldiers," special forces major oleksandr told us. "they're just burning everything to the ground," he said. yet he and his men remain determined to hold their ground. charlie d'agata, cbs news, lysychansk, eastern ukraine. >> o'donnell: tonight, the state department is ramping up efforts to get w.n.b.a. star brittney griner released from russia, declaring today that she is being wrongfully detained. griner has been behind bars for 75 days. she was arrested after russian officials say they found cannabis vape cartridges in her luggage as she went through airport security. and there's an important update .
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>> o'donnell: being a mom in the 21st century means you have many titles, and that is especially true for pop superstar katy perry. between taking her daughter, daisy, to ballet class, being a judge on "american idol," and performing a residency in las vegas. we sat down with perry for a new episode of our new streaming show, "person to person." what is the most surprising part
of motherhood? >> i would say it's so beautiful. it's a game changer. it really is what life is all about. for me, i've had such incredible opportunities my whole life to climb so many different mountains and see so many different views, and, you know, there was a point in my life where i was really not in a great place mentally, and really low. and i think it's just because i tried to keep climbing the same mountain thinking the view woule change. and i made a real conscious decision, orlando and i, it's time. it's time to find that balance. it's time to bring something beautiful in the world to encapsulate our love and to grow from this experience. >> o'donnell: and you can watch the full interview on "person to person" tonight at 10:30, eastern, 7:30 pacific on the cbs news app. you can download it on your phone, tablet, or smart tv. we'll be right back. we'll be right back.
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>> o'donnell: we want to end tonight from here, at the supreme court, where throughout this broadcast you have been able to hear protesters hoping to have their voices heard after that draft opinion was leaked. thousands gathering here and in other places across our nation. we should note security tightening as more and more people are arriving here on the capitol grounds just across from the supreme court. we will continue to cover this story. that is tonight's "cbs evening news."
i'm norah o'donnell. good night. ♪ ♪ ♪ captioning ponsored by cbs captioned by media access group at wgbh right now at 7:00. i don't understand how this could happen. emotions running high across the bay area for the possibility of the supreme court overturning roe v wade and giving the decision on abortion rights back to the states. >> the court looks like it is finally going to recognize its error in roe versus wade. meanwhile, california says it is prepared to step in to rewrite its own constitution. also, tonight saying goodbye to a political legend. norman mineta passes away at the age of 90. he scales the sales tower without a rope or a net. the sales force spider-man and
the timely motivation for his climb. now at 7:00 and streaming on cbs news bay area, protests erupted across the region tonight. a fierce fight to preserve abortion rights. >> we will never yield. we will never give up until a woman's rights are permanently protected. thank you all so much. >> san francisco mayor speaking in the last hour. good evening, i am ryan yamamoto. >> and i am elizabeth cook. let's take a live look at the supreme court. the debate has been gathered all day. this after chief justice roberts confirmed the late draft indicating a possible reversal of roe v wade was legitimate. >> process spilling into the streets of the bay area. this is a view from the chopper. right in front of the federal courthouse in san francisco. that is where kpix 5's max darrow begins our team's coverage. repayment >> reporter: hundreds of people if not more
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