stephen colbert is next. the news continues streaming captioning sponsored by cbs >> georgia republican senate candidate herschel walker, strongly denying accusations this morning that he paid for a woman's abortion in 2009. >> they're claiming that on september 12 of 2009, that the woman has a receipt for an abortion. they are claiming that, five days later on september 17th, you sent a $700 check, and that you sent it in a get-well card. >> i can tell you, i sent out so many "get well," send out so much of anything. >> what about the $700 check? >> well, i send money to a lot of people. >> do you enjoy sending vague cards to strangers for no reason, constantly? hallmark introduces the herschel walker collection. when you just want to say something to someone you don't

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>> stephen: hey, here we go! load it up! load it up, baby! load it up, hook it up, haul it out. right over there. ( band playing ) ( cheers and applause ) kind of a gene simmons vibe! >> louis: yeah, yeah, kind of, yeah! >> stephen: hello, hello, hello. happy tuesday. >> audience: stephen! stephen! >> stephen: beautiful. hey, everybody! ( cheers and applause ) thank you very much. please have a seat, everybody. sit down! sit down! ( cheers and applause ) thank you very much. that's so exciting. that is so exciting. it's got my heart rate up. >> louis: you okay? you all right? >> stephen: yeah, i'm all right. >> louis: you good? >> stephen: welcome... ( cheers and applause ) welcome, one and all, to "the late show." i'm your host, stephen colbert. ( cheers and applause ) well-- you know-- you can feel-- you can feel sort of the energy in the news cycle picking up, because the midterms

are only about five weeks away, something like that. maybe a little bit less. and one of the key races for control of the senate was turned completely upside down last night. i'm talking about the georgia senate race between incumbent democratic senator and king of the sears portrait studio... ( laughter ) raphael warnock. and g.o.p. nominee and psychic failing to read his own mind... ( laughter ) herschel walker. walker has made headlines because he's in favor of a national abortion ban with "no exceptions." turns out, he might make one exception to that. ( laughter ) because, reportedly, back in 2009, herschel walker paid for his girlfriend's abortion. i have not seen a hypocrite this big since gandhi did that ad for arby's. ( laughter ) "be the mats you want to see in the world." now, of course, walker denies it. he tweeted the report is, "a flat-out lie." and if there's one thing herschel walker knows, it's

lying. because he has done a ton of it. including falsely claiming he was an f.b.i. agent, hiding the fact that he had secret children from his own campaign, and falsely claiming he never falsely claimed to have graduated from the university of georgia. really! ( laughter and applause ) >> louis: wow. >> stephen: he not only-- >> louis: wow. > stephen: that's impressive. he not only lied... he lied about lying? what kind of lesson does that teach his secret children? ( laughter ) and this woman evidently has the receipts. specifically, a receipt from the abortion clinic, a copy of a $700 check from mr. walker, and a signed get well card. this is... what's the word? a disaster. ( laughter ) so, walker went on the fox news last night, and was asked about this evidence by the most effective form of birth control known to man, sean hannity. ( laughter and applause ) jim? >> the get well card, it looks

like it's included with your signature in the article. have you seen it? and, is that your signature? >> i haven't seen it. but, you know, i can tell you, i sent out so many "get well," i send out so much of anything. >> stephen: well, sure. i mean, all celebrities send cards to complete strangers. in fact, you know what? herschel's going through a tough time right now, so, let me just get this done real quick. ( laughter ) ( cheers and applause ) "dear-- dear herschel, get well soo-- you know what? get ( bleep ). stephen." ( cheers and applause ) and, i will now mail that, through the television! ( laughter and applause ) walker-- >> louis: that's good. that's good. ( cheers and applause )

>> stephen: walker had a pretty terrible excuse for the money, too. >> what about the $700 check? is there anybody you can remember sending that much money to? >> well, i send money to a lot of people, and that's what's so funny. i do scholarships for kids. i give money to people all the time, because i'm always helping people, because i believe in being generous. >> stephen: it's true! he does like helping people. for instance, that interview really helped raphael warnock. ( laughter ) also-- also, in the midterms, there's some interesting new footage out of the michigan governor's race, where incumbent gretchen whitmer is running against republican nominee and woman lecturing the waiter just how spicy she wants that-a meat-a-ball... ( laughter ) tudor dixon. in the latest polls, dixon's trailing whitmer by a whopping 17 points, and she's raised so little cash that her campaign

has not had the money to fund its own commercials. so, michigan's gratiot county republican party made their own commercial for dixon, and they did not let their lack of budget or talent stop them. ( laughter ) dixon shared the commercial on social media, and now, well, i'm sharing it with you. ( laughter ) jim? >> hey, have you seen the tv ads with the governor talking about the great things she's done for michigan? >> she's a liar! whitmer can say what she wants, but we live here. just look around. man. >> during covid, whitmer locked down businesses like the owosso barber, and put one woman from holland in jail. >> oh, yeah! >> stephen: man. ( laughter ) i've got to say-- "sons of anarchy" is not as good as i remember. ( laughter ) the community-- the community theater bikers had some more complaints about whitmer: >> 3,000 restaurants closed. and she's pro-business? >> yeah, right. >> and what about those higher gas and food prices?

>> our schools were closed for almost two years. poor kids! >> and she put covid patients in gram's nursing home! >> gram died alone. ( audience reacts ) ( laughter and applause ) >> louis: wow, wow. ( laughter ) >> stephen: and the oscar goes to... ( laughter ) biker gandalf! also... ( cheers and applause ) it's sad! it's so sad. also, you can't be mad that whitmer closed the schools, and also be mad about people catching covid! "drunk driving's up, and she closed the bars! gram drank alone." ( laughter and applause ) ( cheers and applause ) then it was time to plug their candidate of choice...

someone? >> okay, okay, i'm voting for the other chick! what's her name? >> stephen: that's the kind of enthusiastic endorsement that'll put your campaign right over the top! reminds me of the eisenhower's campaign slogan: "i like... the bald dude. what's his name? jimmy crimcram?" eventually, they remembered the candidate they love so dearly. >> okay, okay, i'm voting for the other chick! what's her name? >> tudor dixon! >> okay, let's roll! >> watch out for potholes! >> stephen: "okay, here we go! vvvroom-- uh-oh, it's a pothole! i hope gram doesn't hit it. gram rides alone." ( laughter ) ( cheers and applause ) vvvroom... vvvroom...

vvvroom-- eeee! ( applause ) of course-- thank you. it was a team effort. that was a team effort. ( cheers and applause ) and the oscar goes to... ( laughter ) of course, the biggest issue in the midterms remains former president the loch ness fraudster. all the news about him is terrible, so yesterday he decided to do something about it-- he sued cnn for defamation, charging the channel acted with "real animosity" to cause him "true harm." true harm? they reported the facts! that's like suing your mirror for giving you cankles! ( laughter ) specifically-- you sue your mom and dad. specifically, the suit claims that cnn tried to "taint the plaintiff"...

which is not easy. the plaintiff is mostly taint. ( cheers and applause ) there you go! there you go! ♪ ♪ ♪ ( cheers and applause ) we're back, baby! we're back! touch and go there for a while. ...with a series of ever-more- scandalous, false, and defamatory labels of "racist," "russian lackey," "insurrectionist," and ultimately, "hitler." "ultimately hitler," of course, also the name of world war ii's worst-selling cologne. ( laughter ) over in eastern europe, ukraine's army has once again blown through putin's forces-- ( cheers and applause ) this is today, right? it's been coming, really happened, amazing. today, they've recapturing large swaths of territory from the russians, and anybody who thinks they know how this war is going to end is an idiot. enter tesla founder and... ( laughter ) evil baron from the new season

of "bridgerton"... ( laughter ) elon musk. yesterday, musk floated an insane new plan to end the war in the most elon musk way possible: via twitter poll. so, what was in musk's plan? "redo elections of annexed regions under u.n. supervision." "crimea formally part of russia." "water supply to crimea assured." "ukraine remains neutral." so, russia gets everything they want, but, in exchange, ukraine gives russia everything they want. sounds like the kind of plan the kremlin would thank him for. which could be why, shortly after, the kremlin thanked him for it. ( scattered laughter ) it really seems like musk is doing russia's bidding here. explains why his latest model tesla... is potato. ( laughter ) >> louis: ha, ha, yes! ( laughter and applause ) >> stephen: i like they got the old-fashioned grill. >> louis: yes, yes! >> stephen: got that old grill on the front. they don't make that anymore. that's first generation. top ukrainian officials clapped

back at musk's poll. ukraine's ambassador to germany responded, "( bleep ) off is my very diplomatic reply to you." ( cheers and applause ) hey! hey! that's not right. the diplomatic reply would be "please ( bleep ) off." we've got a great show for you tonight! ( cheers and applause ) my guest is maggie haberman! but when we come back, "meanwhile!" ♪ ♪ ♪ join us, won't you? ( cheers and applause ) ( band playing ) at progressive, if you want to protect the homes and autos of those who bundle, you must become a true master. water damage... fire damage... wind damage... i'm not getting this metaphor. protect the home! -ready? -no.

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president. and, joining us later in the show, one of my colleagues, tyler templeton from "tooning out the news" on comedy central will be joining us here, live via satellite from outside mar-a-lago. yeah. ( scattered cheers ) yeah. that's an exclusive. we call that an "exclusive," i the business. now, you're a healthy person, aren't you? >> louis: i try to be. >> stephen: yeah? what do you do to stay healthy? >> louis: you know, i do high- intensity interval training-- >> stephen: high-intensity interval training! >> louis: in the old days, we used to all work out together in the dressing room. >> stephen: you guys used to work out together? >> louis: yes! >> yeah. >> yeah. >> louis: oh, yeah. >> stephen: you're not-- you're too young to say "old days," by the way. ( laughter ) >> louis: i know, it's right there! >> stephen: i'm only asking because i-- evie, the other day, said, "you're going to go take a stress test." >> louis: oh, really? >> stephen: yeah, she made an appointment for me to go to the labs and take a stress test. and i said, apropos of what? and she's like, just go do it. and i said, okay. and i saw four doctors, over the course of, like, one day. and each one of them said, why are you here? and i said, my wife made an appointment. that's why i'm here. and they said, right, right, right. ( laughter )

so i did the stress test, i got on the treadmill with the thing strapped to you... >> louis: yeah. >> stephen: you know, and the thing, and the thing here, and the thing there, and you run? turns out, i'm immortal. ( laughter ) >> louis: i could have told you that. ( cheers and applause ) >> stephen: because, i had this thing... they scanned me... i can't be killed. if this show won't kill me, nothing will. ( laughter ) i thought they were going to find a blockage in my heart the size of a golf ball, honest to god. but i got the cat scan, 100% clear, there ain't nothing in there. >> louis: all good. >> stephen: no heart! >> louis: oh. ( laughter ) >> stephen: anyway, very excited to be alive. folks-- laer i am e goooretteon't ynk? yeah. syeah. folks-- ( scattered laughter ) i spend most of my time right over there, combing the day's news and selecting only the finest, most supple linden wood, hand-carving it into epic and topical characters, then preserving them in beeswax, and connecting the limbs to a horizontal control to create the

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♪ why don't you hear me cryin' ooh-ooh ♪ >> stephen: there you go! thanks, man. ( cheers and applause ) thank you, baby. hello. don't judge me. don't judge me. hey! thank you, louis. welcome back, everybody. ladies and gentlemen, my pfirst guest is a pulitzer

prize-winning journalist whose latest work is the bombshell book, "confidence man." please welcome maggie haberman! ( band playing ) ( cheers and applause ) >> thank you! ( cheers and applause ) >> stephen: thanks for being here. got your own theme music now. >> thank you. >> stephen: there you go. really nice to have you on. obviously, i have admired your work for many years. as i said before, i've watched you on the "anderson cooper power hour" many, many times. it's really-- you know what's interesting? it's fun to see you smile. ( laughter ) because-- because you have a lovely smile, but you never smile when you're on panel. you're just like, stone-faced. it's like you're the ultimate poker showdown. >> you sound like my father. thank you. >> stephen: yes. >> thanks for that. >> stephen: yes, i am loathe to say to a woman, "you should smile more."

what i'm saying is, is that you really do really play your cards close to your chest when you're reporting on... the former president. as you do in your new book, "confidence man: the making of donald trump and the breaking of america." ( cheers and applause ) 500 pages. you get your money's worth with this book. this book-- there have been many books about the president. but, as it says here on the back, there is a little blurb here from axios that says, "this is the book trump fears most." why do you think-- ( cheers ) ( cheers and applause ) why do you think-- what makes this book different, maggie haberman? >> i wanted to paint a deeper portrait of trump. i wanted to go back and look at the world that made him, the specifics of his character. and this is a character study. and donald trump does not like people talking about his character. he prefers two versions of a portrait of him, and one is adulation, and one is one that basically makes him sound

like a strong man, a very competent strong man. this is neither one of those, and so, he doesn't like that. >> stephen: okay, so it's not adulation, he is not a strong man. i'm sure it is a complex characterization, because there are a lot of threads being pulled here. but he actually said, and it says so in the book, i believe, it says that he pointed at you at one point and says, "she's like my psychiatrist." what did you think, when he said that about you? >> that it didn't mean very much, if anything. it was a meaningless line, meant to flatter. he is always playing to whatever audience is in front of him. and the reality is that he has said that about his twitter feed, other interviews he has given... he treats everyone-- >> stephen: a bucket of chicken, ( laughter ) mm-hmm. >> he-- ( laughter ) >> stephen: have you ever eaten with him? have you ever been with him when he eats? have you ever eaten-- seen him eat in front of you? >> this is me smiling. ( laughter ) >> stephen okay, but if you are-- if you are-- let's just say, for a second. i know you are not his psychiatrist-- >> no.

>> stephen: but if you were his psychiatrist, after doing this character study-- a deep analysis, if you were-- if you were a doctor, what would be your diagnosis? >> i intentionally didn't write a book of "takes." i wrote a book of reporting, about who he is. and so, my diagnosis, i think, is in the book, and i hope people read it. ( laughter ) >> stephen: well-- ( laughter ) i feel-- i feel vaguely scolded for asking that question. "i did not do takes, stephen." >> not that! no, no, no. not that, no. >> stephen: okay. >> no, no. just, but it's just reporting. and i want people to read the reporting. >> stephen: well, there's amazing stuff in here, there's bombshells in this book. >> thank you. >> stephen: one of the things we learned here-- this is reporting you did for the "new york times," but it's also in the book-- he flushes notes and government documents down the toilet. he mistook staffers of color as the waiters at the white house. he insulted angela merkel, called her "that b." did he say "that b," or did he say "b-i-t-c-h?" ( laughter ) >> the latter. >> stephen: the latter? okay. >> and he didn't spell it.

>> stephen: he didn't spell it. >> he didn't spell it. >> stephen: could he spell it? ( laughter ) ( cheers and applause ) okay. the list goes on. what do you think in the book upsets him the most? >> the flushing documents down the toilet. was actually-- was actually-- >> stephen: revealing that? >> yes, i think that is what upset him the most. he had a-- an immediate and pronounced and angry reaction to that reporting, when i put it out many months ago. it was reporting that-- >> stephen: he called you, he called you. >> he issued a statement. it was a phone call to the world. and, i think his exact statement was, his question was, "who would know that?" which i think was actually a literal question that he was asking. ( laughter ) but he asked it out loud. but it made him-- it made him quite angry. and then he spent some time asking some of his aides, you know, "what do you think of that reporting?" and usually, that's because he's trying to figure out whether something is damaging to him or not, or how much more could be there. >> stephen: y'all have photographs, too. there are photographs of the stuff torn up at the bottom of the toilet. >> there were, in two different toilets, in two different countries. one in this one, and one overseas.

>> stephen: wow. >> right. >> stephen: so, spreading it out, not to clog up one pipe. ( laughter ) very thoughtful. because he is very obsessed. remember how obsessed he was with, like, low-flow toilets? now we know why! >> i think-- i think-- ( laughter ) i think it may have answered some questions, yes. >> stephen: can you talk about the role the media played in the rise of the former president? politically, i mean. how much of that, in his success in politics and the trust that people had in him, has to do with the success of "the apprentice?" >> an enormous amount. i think, without "the apprentice," there is no donald trump presidency. because, he was basically playing himself on a television show that was produced by a fan of "the art of the deal," mark burnett. and, you know, it was all staged. it was creating-- the people who were involved in the show have talked about how they were trying to make a sort of broken- down, eroding empire look magnificent for the screen. and-- >> stephen: what do you mean? like, how so?

>> they built a conference room on a set. because-- >> stephen: that's not his conference room? >> no. you know, they-- when they were filming in one of the casinos, they realized it looked a little dingy, you know, and it had seen better days. and so, he was basically built up to this, you know, sitting in a leather-back chair, and he came up with this catchline, "you're fired," which the producers of the show realized was gold, and he was emulating george steinbrenner, the former owner of the yankees, when he did it. but this was a presentation that viewers saw, and i didn't really understand this until-- i was not an "apprentice" watcher. but i didn't really understand this until i was in iowa and i was interviewing voters during the iowa caucuses in 2016. and i was asking people at one of his final rallies in dubuque, iowa, a very leading question, which was, basically, "are you here because this is the last time you're going to see him, the spectacle is ending?" and i kept getting this answer, "no, i'm caucusing for him." and one man looked at me like i had eight heads when i asked the question, and said, you know, "i'm caucusing for him." and i said, "why?" and he said, "i watched him run his business."

and he meant "the apprentice." so, without "the apprentice"... >> stephen: which was all an illusion. >> which was-- which was television. it was the art of television, yeah. >> stephen: wow. and we know that television can be an enormous good in the world. we know this much. ( laughter ) >> i mean, naturally, of course. >> stephen: i mean, there are times, there are times-- ( cheers and applause ) so, speaking of-- speaking of the harm that television can do in many different ways, do you think that it is possible to-- or the right thing to do-- do you think it is possible to ignore a former president who doesn't want to be ignored? because you can ignore george w. bush. he just goes and paints, you know? ( laughter ) but-- and fishes, and stuff like that, and, you know, let him do that. but we struggle with that here. is that, you know, i don't decide what the stories are. we're talking about what people are talking about. and he just won't go away. can he be ignored? >> at this point, no. i don't think you can ignore a former president. one of the things that i found, in the course of the reporting and the writing was, the real issue, the significant criticism of media, relates to the '70s, '80s, and '90s.

all of these news stories, as he is myth-making about himself, describing himself as bigger than he is, describing himself as coming back from bankruptcies, when he really hadn't, yet, and, then he gets to "the apprentice," and that carries him through. by the time he became a candidate, for the reasons i said, a lot of voters in the republican base believed he was this hyper-successful tycoon. but then, he had a real thing. he had a solid base of voters behind him, who wouldn't believe anything they were told otherwise about him. and he has them, still. now, he doesn't have the whole republican party right now. there are aspects of the party that are not with him. but i think, if he's the nominee again, they will be with him. i don't think it's responsible to ignore it. i do think it is responsible to contextualize it. >> stephen: now, you-- you were one of the first person to take him seriously. maybe the first major reporter to take him seriously. did you feel like a cassandra, when you were doing that? like, "no, this guy is not a joke, this guy is real." >> i remember in 2011, writing a lot as he was running for

president, sort of. he hadn't actually announced. >> stephen: it was mostly the obama birth certificate thing, was what he was using as his sort of magic carpet. >> he was using the birther lie to elevate himself, because he saw that it worked. and he was on it much earlier than we realized. he was talking to people about it behind the scenes before he started talking about it in interviews. and he was using it in a very-- it was incredibly cynical politics. and he refused to get off of it. and we all thought we were fact- checking him, and in fact, we were just spreading it further. which is something else that i think we all have to think about, in terms of how we do our jobs. >> stephen: so if you shouldn't ignore him, and what he is saying are lies-- but, by checking the lies, you repeat the lies, and drive them into people's heads so they forget that they're lies and only rmember the accusations-- what's left? >> at this point, we can't ignore him. i think we should have done things differently in 2011. even though i think the media was correct for rebutting this, i just don't think we thought about what the effect was. because he exists in these ten-minute increments of time,

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you're a journalist. i'm not asking you to oraculate. but, do you think that he is going to run in 2024? >> i think he has backed himself into a corner where, he has to. i think that-- >> stephen: what corner? >> the corner is, he wants attention, he wants to fundraise, and he's under investigation. and he wants to be able to say the investigations are witch-hunts, and he would love to have the constitutional armor the presidency affords him back. so, i don't think his heart is particularly in it. he doesn't seem to be enjoying himself with politics, the way he once did. now, maybe that will come again. but i do think, at the moment, i think he will run. it doesn't mean he will stay in the whole time, but i do think he will announce a candidacy. >> stephen: you-- in your reporting in here, you say that there is a moment where he sort of admits that he took documents he shouldn't have from the white house. can you recount that moment for us? >> it was a strange and very vague comment. i asked him, on a lark, if he had taken documents from the white house-- mementos-- >> stephen: you said

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♪ ♪ ♪ ( cheers and applause ) >> stephen: hey, everybody! welcome back to the show. ladies and gentlemen, it seems like the walls are starting to close in on former potus bloatus. the january 6th committee continues to gather damning evidence, the justice department is continuing their investigation of the classified documents he was hoarding down in mar-a-lago, guarded no doubt by his crack security team of croquet-playing orthodontists who are actually chinese spies. and recently, new york attorney general letitia james filed a suit-- ( cheers and applause ) --to keep him from doing business in new york. i'd say that's enough to drive his lawyer to drink... but i'm pretty sure that ship has sailed. ( laughter ) now, to find out-- to find out how the former president is dealing with all of this, i wanted to send a

reporter to mar-a-lago. but, forcing a journalist to spend time near the former president seems... inhumane. (the team at comedcentral's "tooning out the news." their new season starts tomorrow, after "the daily show," on another network, which i already told you, is comedy central. so, joining us now from florida, the host of the conservative shout-tainment show, "hot take," tyler templeton! thank you for joining us, tyler. ( cheers and applause ) >> great to be here, stephen. >> stephen: now, tyler, it's certainly true that you and i don't see eye-to-eye on every issue. you're a staunch supporter of the former president. >> how dare you! i do not support former president barack obama! i support the current president, donald trump! or are you so blinded by your ideology that you can't accept that he is president, and 50 feet tall? >> stephen: well, you cannot deny the former president is

under investigation on multiple fronts. you're down there on the ground. do you have a sense of the panic inside mar-a-lago? >> panic? quite the opposite, stephen! everyone in trump world is doing great. right now, they're actually having a rocking party here, where the theme is "nervously pacing and muttering, 'i can't go to jail'." >> stepn: sounds fun. but, shouldn't he be a little worried? how will he possibly defend himself, when he got caught red-handed with classified documents stored in a completely unprotected environment? >> don't get hysterical, stephen! those documents were fortified behind a state-of-the-art ultra-secure door knob. and, even if guests located the knob, how would they know which way to turn it? >> stephen: now, with all of these problems mounting, do you think the former president can make a run in 2024? it seems like he has competition there in florida from governor ron desantis. >> oh my god, don't make me pick

between trump and desantis! why can't we have two presidents? we had two bachelorettes. yes, i watched gabby and rachel's entire journey. but it was on tv at the gym. i swear! ow! son of a bitch! >> stephen: tyler, did you just get hit in the head with a croquet ball? >> hello? >> stephen: tyler, are you there? >> yeah. how's it going, man? >> stephen: it's going fine, tyler. we're trying to get a report from mar-a-lago. >> that's awesome! where are we taking it from? ( laughter ) >> stephen: we're going to you, tyler. have you been into mar-a-lago to see what's going on in there? >> yes. >> stephen: and, do you want to tell us what is happening in there, or is there some reason you don't want to actually inform us as to what is happening in mar-a-lago? >> oh! wouldn't you like to know? pliberal-- >> stephen: yes! yes, you're a reporter! i would like to know what's happening.

>> well, they've unjustly taken stuff. ( laughter ) >> stephen: yeah! files that say "classified" and "top secret" on it. that's not "unjustly"-- it's the justice department that did it! that is the justice. >> well, how would you-- so, hold on a second. you're telling me that you know it says "classified" and "justified" on it? that must mean that you are behind this somehow! ( laughter ) >> stephen: no, i saw photographs that the justice department put out. >> oh, yeah? where was that, inside of joe biden's room? ( laughter ) don't laugh! >> stephen: i think-- we're not laughing, tyler. we're not laughing at you, we're laughing with you, tyler. i think we're having a little satellite issues here with you, tyler. we're not-- some of your words don't have meanings in them. ( laughter ) >> hold on, stephen. i have just received exclusive breaking news that our series, "tooning out the news," will

premiere tomorrow night on comedy central right after "the daily show." >> stephen: that's not breaking news, tyler. i said that earlier. >> great! sounds like we have a second source confirming my report, and "tooning out the news" will deliver even more up-to-the- minute cartoon coverage of the biggest stories. just take a look of this clip of my colleague, liberal warrior kylie weaver, sitting down with secretary pete buttigieg. >> well, there is one thing we know for sure: it's great that joe biden's approval rating is on the rise, and there is no need for the party in to 2024 to rally behind a young, vibrant, gay, transformative political figure. >> ( laughs ) that's right. we have a great president. >> mm-hmm. i mean, where would we even find someone like that? like that person i mentioned. i mean, they don't even exist. it's impossible. and even if we did find them, would they have the courage to seize this singular moment in history? >> or just a great day job that they want to, you know, continue doing. >> mm-hmm, well, luckily we don't have to worry about that. we're not in an ironic divine hell where, the better we do at our job, the better it is for

our boss, and the further we get from fulfilling our destiny. >> right. >> exactly. we're on the exact same page, bestie. >> stephen: thank you, tyler and kylie. check out "tooning out the news" on comedy central, starting tomorrow. we'll be right back. ( cheers and applause ) ♪ ♪ ♪

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