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banking ound you -- your plans, your goals, your dreams. your tomorrow is now. purepoint financial. >> and now, "bbc world news." jane: this is "bbc world news america." reporting from washington, i'm jane o'brien. russia will expel 60 american diplomats in retaliation for similar actions by the u.s. after a russian spy was attacked with a nerve agent in the u.k. >> the disruptive nature of lrussia on the internatio stage has been to the detriment of a lot of other countries, and there comes a point in time where you have to take action. jane: add another guest to the use departure lounge -- this time the veterans affairs secretary is out, and his replement is raising eyebrow womenften hear, usually
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-- jane: 2 republican lawmakers form an unlikelyriendship. now the real challenges overcoming division washington. -- real challenge is overcoming division in washington. to our viewers on public television in america an. around the glo russia has taken action. today the kremlin announced it would expel 60 u.s. diplomats and close the u.s. consulate in st. petersburg. the move is a diplomatic ttit-for-tat after the u.k identical action after the poisoning of a former russian spy and his daughter on uk's -- u.k. soil. the state department said there was no justification for the ion, and said moscow should not act like a victim.
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the bbc'steve rosenberg reports. steve: the diplomatic pressure has been unprecedented. russian diplomats expelled,ig foambassadors recalled after the salisbury attack. it was never a question of whether moscow would respond,. but wh night, russia expelled 60 u.s. diplomats for the 60 russians america had ordered out. >> as we spess, the u.s. amor is visiting our ministry, where my deputy is informing him of the measures. they include the expulsion of the equivalent number of diplomats. steve: russia is also shutting the u.s. consulate in st. petersburg. staff they are given until saturday to vacate ter building. will be other measures, too. >> as i understandsi it, r plans to take the same unjustified actions against 28 other countries that stood in solidarity with the u.k. ssia is further isolating itself following the brazen chemical attack. steve: an attack that left sergei skripal and his daughteri yulia fi for their lives.
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but the bbc understands that yua is now conscious and talking. her father, though, remains critically ill. trlier, the u.s. ambassad moscow told me there was no doubt who had targeted them. how certain are you that the russian ste was behind the attack in salisbury? ambassador huntsman: there has been enough there to not only convince the united states, but 25 other countries that have taken similar actions, that there is enough evidence t believe that the russian state was behind this action in salisbury. steve: america has expelled 60 russian diplomats, part of this coordinated international action. what signal does that send to moscow, do you think? ambassador huntsman:e you cannt military-grade nerve agent on the streets of salisbury utainst a british citizen and his daughter wit response. this is an expression of outrage at what happened on the soil of
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the united kingdom. steve: moscow continues to insist that it is innocent, that it had nothing whatsoever to do with the salisbury poisoning. tonight's tit-for-tat was expected, but it comes with a warning, that if there are further hostile steps against ke more russia will measures against the west. some in moscow fear a spiraling diplomatic war with the west could end in military conflict. >> this is not the way for solution. it is the way to hell. if you have not so many diplomats as you have, you haveo a lack of ation, you wannot react in this or that way, in the wronfrom the wrong point of view, and this is the way to the hell. oneve: the west sent a str message here over salisbury. moscow the west -- don't push russia. steve rosenberg, bbc news, moscow.
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jane: for more on the diplomatic spat with russ and growing white house departurbr, i spoke a f time ago with ron christie, who served as an advisor to george w. bush. quick reaction reaction on russia -- should this escalating problem with russia provoke a personal responsfrom donald trump, bearing in mind his text -- mixed messages on this? ron: i think he should. we heard from ambassador huntsman in great but this reqthe united states to stand shoulder to er with the u.k. and our other allies to say that this type of behavior will not be tolerated and we will take the wlead to ensure that russl be held accountable. jane let's turn to expulsions of a different kind. david shulkin, secretary for veterans affairs, isgout. he is nog quietly. he wrote an op-ed in "the new york times" saying t should not be this hard to serve your country. why does it seem that way? ron: with donald trump, you have a president ofhe united states who takes to twitter, who takes to social media to make his
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ces,y and personnelha which i find extraordinary. guld you imagine waking up this morning, janoing through your feed, and recognizing, i just lost my job? it is tiring to work at the trump white house. my friends there say it is chaotic, that there is a lack of discipli, and this form of firing -- we have seen several others in the last couple weeks -- destabilizes the way the white house operates. jane: ron, is it chaotic, or are actually -- bear with me on this -- are we seeing a president who is growing in confidence, saint -- just saying i don't want these people, i want my people? i think both are true. you see a president growing confidence. he feels more confident that he has his people around him. but this is the white house we are talking about. it is not just your people. you need the best and the brightest to work in the white house, and i think the president is being ill-served surrounded by people who just like trump rather than looking out for the best interest of the country. jane: talking about somebody who
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obviously likes trump, said he had great genes, his personal physician ronny jackson, taking shulkin's job.yo what dmake of that? ron: ronny jackson is a top-flight doctor. he ivery smart, very capable of course, the veterans affairs onadministration in washins the second-largest cabinet agency. i don't know whether a physician who is a rear admiral has the skill set to run such a huge bureaucracy. jane: why did he get the job, to you think? ron: no question about it, who does donald trump like, who is donald trump's orbi trump said he is fantastic, he is a great guy. well, now he is going to the veterans affaira and minion. jane: hope hicks, communications director has been with him for a , long how much of an impact will her departure have on trump personally? ron: significant. her office was right outside his neont door. not having someoho is on his campaign not by his side is really going to take a toll on him. the question becomes who is next, and why would you want to be the white house communications director?
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you have schlapp, who has been rgling for this, and anot gentleman, a spokesman. from my sources inside the white house, this is a deadly fight, an ugly fight, it is only going to get wor. jane: ron christie, thank you. quick look at the day's other news. 68 people have died after rioting and a fire at a police station in venezuela inmates ignited mattressou trying to ge relatives of prisoners say many may have died from smoke inhalation. among the victims were two women spending the night as visitors. the owner ofub a greek soccer has been banned for three years for storming on to the pitch with a gun. he invad pitch during a match earlier this month to nunfront a referee who disallowed a last- goal. malala yousafzai has met the prime minister of pakistan on her first return to the country five yea the head and being seriously
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injured by taliban gunmen. the nobel peace prize wi moved to the u.k. after the attack and campaigns for female education and human rights. here iwashington, congress is often a word synonymous with dysfunction, but two republican lawmakers fr south carolina with very different backgrounds are challenging the status quo. congressman treyowdy and senator tim scott have written a new book called "unified." they hope the story of their friendship will inspire unity in a country increasingly marked by division and strife. my colleagues jon sopel and christian fraser spoke to them a short time ago for the program "beyond 100 days." jon: on one level you say, whats is the bry here? you have got 2 republican politicians get along fine with each other, one from the house, one from the senate. but i guess you come -- you are from the same state, south carolinabut different back stories. sen. scott: let me just start with this -- one of the reasons it is such an important
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conversation to have come especially to folks, one black, one white, from south carolina , the history of our great state. we have a provocative history on race in south carolina. the fit shot of the civil war, charleston, south carolina. to have two gentlemen coming together after a raciallyte motimurder in emmanuel church in south carolina -- jon: which is when the white supremacist went in the bible study class.ex sen. scotttly. that is part of the genesis of this book. i turned to a white guy from my state, in spite of the fact that you look at who we were, we have transfors d, but that e basis. if this is possible in south carolina, it is possible anywhere, and the fact of the matter is that south carolina has evolved so much over the last 50 years that we are such proud representaves of a new south carolina. jon: did you like each other immediately? was there suspicion?
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you know, people judge each her easily. we work out which side of the track someone is from and what they are -- what their background is. did you bondd mmediately? take time? rep. gowdy: he is impossible to not like. it is quite possible to not like me. he is impossible to not like. he is a perfect combination of skill, leadership, and humility. so i liked him from ment i saw him. but keep in mind, we met in this storically large freshma class that was elected in 2010, and he was far and away the best known, most popular member of that class. he was elvisresley in that class. everyone liked him. it wasn't just me. christian: i've read some of the excerpts from the book. it is fascinating to read. i will pull out a little section because i want you to comment on why you are stepping down. you say, "to be honest, i'md ti the division, the disunity. i'm tired of the people who manufacture reasons to fight."
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is that why you don't want to go on? rep. gowdy: it's part of it.un i actually liky. i would rather us spending our y,me finding out things we agree on, and quite frane probably agree on about 80% of life. why our political discourse runs towards the area of conflict -- we don't do it in any other facet life. we don't sit by someone on the bus coming home from the airport saying, what can we disagree on? you talk about sports, you talk about fami. we don't do that in our political discourse. ecause i'm leaving going back to a job where facts matter and process matters and fairness matters, and in politics, winning is the only thing that matters.ri ian: senator, from over i here, quite obvious, the bvision in america, but is there a risk that omes
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vulnerable to adversaries abroad? sen. scott: it makes us very vulnerable when you look at the ioality that one of the mi of the russian meddling in elections was to take advantage of the racial division they could see. we hope address that. one of the things we talk about fo bringing african-american pastors and law ement together at roundtables for more than 18 months so we can discuss the incredibly important ig ues confrontmmunities of color and do so in a way that open dialogue leads to rapport and credibilitso we can solve oblems together. if we miss that opportunity, outsiders are in a position to take advantagef it. jon: let me ask you about this -- and of interesting quote noth in the book, b said recently -- this is kind of linked to russia, but the mueller inveetigation into r there was collusion. let's leave the collusion questi to one side. you say, "when you are innocent, act like it," to donald trump. do you think the attempts to undermine the mueller
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investigatn makes life worse for him? rep. gowdy: i do. by the way, that is good advice whether you are president or not. if you are innocent, act like it. i think the attacks on mueller -- frankly, some of my house colleagues trying to put artificial time limits on the investigation, trying to deprivi of resources -- as i look at mueller's jurisdiction, it is first and foremost to investigate what rsia did. the second question is whom, if anyone, they did it. that is number two. number one, what did they do? thats a supremely important task, and all americans should be cheering on bob mueller -- go figure out exactly what russia did. i have seen no evidence of collusion. he may find it. i have not seen it. but he did not include with -- but if the president repeatedly said he did not include with russia, you are innocent of the fundamental charge, act like it. jane: congressman trey gowdy and senator tim scotthere.
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you are watching "bbc world news america." still to come on tonight's program, exactly one year to go until britain splits with european union. with the clock ticking, how ready is the u.k. for brexit? the leaders of north and south korea are due to meet next mth , and the white house has said it is cautiously optimistic, but the u.s. ambassador to china has been more skeptical. terry bransta said he doesn't trust kim jong-un's latest commitment to denuclearize. ambassador branstad: our goal is to make sure that north korea is not a threat to south korea, to japan, to america, to china, anybody else in the world. reporteron the word "denuclearization," we heard it again yesterday in the talks with president xi. kim jong-un's father ud that word. you don't really believe him
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when he says he is committed to denuclearization? ambassador branstad: the history 'is they cou't be trusted. we need to make sure that if indeed an agreement is reached to do that, there is adequate verification to make sure that indeed it is carried out and that nuclear weapons are eliminated. reporter: do you trust him in terms of that word? ambassador branstad: no, we don't trust him. but we need to see what the possibilities are, and rather than just have him continue to do provocave things and shoot off more missiles, as he gets oser and closer -- he obviously said he wants to attack the united states. we have to take those threats seriously. :report could china host the talks? i don'dor branstad:t know where it will be hosted. that will have to be decided between the two countries. kim jong-un had not been in
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china since he took office. since he took control of the country. repoer: willing to have to come back here to meet your men? ambassador branstad: it is hard to say, and i'm not going to speculate where it might occur. a lot has to happen to put this together, but the president has said he is willing to do it. jane: exactly one year from today, britain is due to formally leave the european union. to mark the moment, u.k. prime minister theresa may has been uring the nation, pledging to make brexit a success for everybody. details still need to be ironed ou chris morris considers how prepared the u.k. is and whated still to be done. chris: just one year to go until the unit kingdom is due to part company with the rest of the european union. it is also one year since
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cltheresa may triggered ar50 of the lisbon treaty, marking the formal tart of the brexit process. prime minister may: in accordance with the wishes of the british people, the united opkingdom is leaving the en union. this is an historic moment from which there can be no turning back. chris: after a stuttering start, gotiations on a withdrawal agreement have made progress. legal text has been agreed on a financial settlement, the divorce the gove says the u.k. will pay the eu 39 billion pounds to cover things like outstanding bills and pensions. there is broad agreement on the rights after brexit of eu citizens in the u.k. and u.k. citizens elsewhere in europe, and crucially, on the of a 21-month transition period afteh brexite the u.k. will continue to abide by eu rules and gulations. the transition will give government time to get ready for a new relationship in the future.
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but there is still an awful lo to do in the next 12 months. both sides have promised no return to a hard border in ireland. there are intensive talks on how to guarantee that once the u.k. leaves the single market and customs union. there is no agreement yet on tho of the european court of justice after brexit. elsewhere, spain, for example, is insisting it must be consulted on the future status of gibraltar. as for a new trade deal between the u.k. and the eu, talks on that have not yet begun. the eu says the u.k.'s red lines limit what can be achieved, bu w the u.k. stits the most ambitious free-trade agreement in history. customs is one obvious challenge. the futuref fishing another. the aim is to reach a broad political agreement by october, but detailed trade negotiations will have to continue long after as left. is brexit on track? there are two big warning signs. firstly, nothing is agreed until
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everything is agreed. in other words, failure to reach agreement on one issue couldbr g the withdrawal deal crashing secoit is far from clear whether the government has a majority in the house of commona to win appfor the brexit it wants. there is just one year left, but there is still a long way to go. jane: chrimorris from our reality check team looking at where the brexit process stands. it has been eight months since violent protests in charlottesvill virginia, opened up a national debate over whether confederate monuments should be removed. in new orleans, 4 statues have been dismantled, and mayor mitch landririeu hasen a book examining the decision and the wider issue of race in america. i touted as a rising voice in the democratic party, and he joined our north americajo editr sopel. jon: i'm struck by reading your book that you tackle one of thel most controverubjects of
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monuments when it might have been a lot easier to walk on the other side and think, oh, two -- too complicated. mayor landrieu: yeah, that is true, but i'm the mayor of c great americy that was for the most part destroyed by a number of man-made and natural disasters. we suffered from katrina, from rita. from -- as you may know, not trying to be insensitive, the bp oil spill. i was in the process o rebuilding the city. one of the ways you fix things that are damaged is that you run to the fire, you don't run away. these confederate monuments were vestig that sent a message, particularly ton- afriericans, over 60% of the city i represent, that you are not welcome here. i don't think those were reflective of who we were in the city of new orleans because we were getting ready to celebrate our 300th anniversary, which tends to make you introspective about who you are, whe came from, and where you are going.
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reving those monuments i thought was an important step in the procs of sending the message that everybody is welcome and diversity is a strength. jon: by removing monuments, are you trying to erase thts of histor you don't like? is it like post-soviet union, let's ripnu down nts to stalin? mayor landrieu: actually, it is the opposite, it is telling our true history. these monuments were a lie by omission. it only reflected four years of was antory and it inaccurate reflection of who we were. if we use our public spaces to ireak about our history, we ought to speak ey about their history and what everybody has done,ot just a small group of people who do not really reflect who we were as a city. jon: the other thing about the inok, which is very intere you talk about construction projects -- the streets being resurfaced, underground pipes being laid, all the day-to-day bread-and-butter issues of politics. mayor landeu: correct.
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jo uri democraticit polician -- you are a democratic politician. what is the democratic party now?se it doesn' to have an identity since it lost in 2016 the presidential election. is it bernie sanders, is it hillary clinton? mayor landrieu: you see on the republican side and democratic side the election of president trump has upended what natural political alliances would be, and america is in a process ofri fi out what direction she wants to go in, and some of it is pro-trump, some of it anti-trump, some of it getting t out chaos -- jon: presumably not enough to be you have got tutting forward a positive message -- mayor landrieu: no question, but anti-trump is not just democrats, many republicans as well. the book speaks to our american identity, that as a nation dg in america people based on their behavior, not on race, not on creed, not on color, not on sexual orientation, nation of origin, and that diversity is a streng, not a weakness. that idea is being tested in american politics right now. the book talks about the monuments and the statues, but
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it really speaksore forcefully to who we are as americans and what really does make us great, and draws the conclusion that great unlessally b you are good first. jon: mayor landrieu, thank you indeed. mayor landrieu: great, thank you so much. jane: therefore we go, we wanted cat videoou a viral that takes us for a walk on the wild side. wathis man from seattlon safari in tanzania when some of the animals got too close or a group of cheetahs becamth curious abouvehicle, and one decided to jump right back into the car. another climbed onto the hood, and the safari guide thought it would startle the animals if they tried to drive away. everyone was told to remain very, very still. eventually the cat lost interest and they left. the man credits his guide for helping him through the ordeal, and although he looks fine to me, he was scared to death. k i the lesson is close the windows.
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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening, i'm judy woodruff.r on the newshnight, a shakeup at the department of veterans affairs. i speak to now former v.a. secretary david shulkin about tat led to his departure and challenges ahead f huge federal agency. then, mourning and protestn sacramento. an unarmed black man shot to death by police is laid to res amid calls for justice. plus, a new museum exhibitionio draws atteto the role native americans play in our nation's identity. >> for most people they don't see or really think about indians, yet they're sded by indian imagery, place names, and have connections with indians on a kind of deep, emotional level. >> woodruff: all that and more on tonight's pbsew


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