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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the "newshour" tonight, crisis in bolivia. the country's longtime socialist president steps down as the streets erupt in violence and supporters cry foul over a suspected coup. then, how rudy guiliani went from erica's mayor to a major player in the impeachment inquiry. plus, our politics monday team breaks down what to expect from the start of public hearings. and art out of the land: why communities of artists, all across the country, are working to revive rural america. >> i think it's a bit of an rural people are every bit as deserving of art as any other group, and maybe more so because they don't have as much access to it. >> woodruff: all that and more t onight's "pbs newshour."
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>> and with the ongoing support of these institutions: and individuals. hi >>program was made possible by the corporation for and by contributioyour pbs thank you.om viewers like you. >> woodruff: anti-government protests in hong kong erupted into chaos today, leaving two people critically injured. oneprotester was shot at cl range by police. elsewhere, a pro-china supporter was doused in flammable liquid and set on fire. hong kong's leader vowed to "spare no effort" to bng an
end to the violent demonstrations that have gripped the semi-autonomous chinese territory for over five months. blasts from riot guns echoed through the streets in central hong kong, the city's business eestrict once again ground zero for clashes betwpolice and protesters. thousands of anti-govement demonstrators flooded the streets at lunch hour. they were met by police in riot gear, who fired tear gas, d sent the crowds sprinting away. protests began in the spring, first in opposition to a proposed law to extradite criminal suspects to mainland china. they have morphed into calls for attacks by police.an end to >> they are not doing anything violent, andshhe police just t them. and we are so angry about the policethrutality. ane is no solution because the government never responds tt any of our reqon police
violence. >> woodruff: the cries denouncing police violce grew louder today after an online video showed a protester being shot. in it,n officer in hong kong's eastern sai wan ho district grapples wh a protester. as a masked man in black rushes toward him, the officer shoots him in the stomach. he is now in critical condition, but stable after surgery. police said the shooting was justified. >> ( translated ): it all happened just in a flash of a moment. and his pistol.o protect himself >> woodruff: police also accused protesters of beating up a man and setting him on fire. hong kong executive carrie lam condemned the demonstrators and called them "theeople's enemy." >> if there's still any wishful thinking that by escalating violence the hong ko government will yield to pressure to satisfy the so-
called political demands, i'm making the statement clear and loud here, that will not happen. >> woodruff: in beijing, china's that western governments areaims supporting and accelerating the protests. >> ( translated ): hong kong internal affairs and no foreign government, organization or individual has the right to intervene. twe express firm oppositi anyone providing a platform or creating conditions for practivists or activities hong kong independence. >> woodruff: back in hong kong, clashes continued in evening, apolice fired tear gas from moving othicles and prters lit fires in the middle of the street. police sprayed water cannons to douse the flam and disperse the crowds. tensions were high iain bol today, as the country struggled with a power vacuum left by the resignation of president evo
morales. his 14-year rule came to an end sunday, after eks of violent protests over claims of fraud in his re-election last month. but yesterday's lebrations were quickly eclipsed by clashes and fires that raged into the night. we'll have a full report, right after the news summary. the united nation's nuclear watchdog raised new concerns today about iran violating its 2015 nuclear deal. its inspectors discovered man- tehran hadn't previouslyhat declared. they also confirmed iran is enriching uranium at its underground fordo facility. meanwhile in paris, european union members met to try to keep the nuclear deal alive. >> ( translated ): i think now it's time to make it clear to iran that it can't continue li this iran must fulfil its obligations but the country isn't doing that when uranium is being enriched again. we want to keep the deal in place, but that's onra possible iffulfils its obligations,
too. >> woodruff: the head of iran's nuclr program reported his country was now producing more low-enrichedranium daily than previously believed, with the help of its fordo ntrifuges. under the treaty, that facility was only to be used for research. turkey began sending captured foreign members of the islamic state-- including one u.s. citizen-- back to their home countries today. it follo a pledge last week to repatriate some 1,200 isis fighters detained in turkey. serately, a former british army officer who helped found the syrian civilian rescue group "the white helmets" has died. was found near hisin mesurier istanbul early today. authorities are investigating the cause of death. australia's most populous state, new south wales, declared an emergency today amid raging wildfires. at least three people have died. northeast part of the state.the
th's already destroyed mor 150 homes and burned nearly 4,000 square miles of forest and farmland. fire officials warned conditions are expected to worsen.ue 60 we conto have more than fires burning across new south wales, more than h them remain uncontained. we can expect to see the alert levels increase on a number i these fires northern new south wales. extremely dry. are still the fire behavior is still quite volatile >> woodruff: australia's annual fire season started earlier than normal, afr an unusually warm med arid winter. australian enviral activists have linked the fires' intensity to climate change, and said the government is not taking strong enough action. spain appears set for more uncertainty, after a second general election this year failed to end the country's political impasse. sunday's vote put the ruling
socialists in first place, but they failed to secure a parliamentary majority. meanwhile, the far-right "vox" party shot to third place,fter more than doubling its seats in parliament. back in this country, a federal judge in washington has dismissed president trump's attempt to block a house committee from accessing his tax the democratic-led ways and means committee is hoping to obtain mr. trump's new york tax recorde dge today ruled he does not have jurisdiction over the. ca that, leaving the option open to file the lawsuit in new york. new york cgressman peter king announced today he won't seek re-election. the moderate republican s first elected to congress in 1993, representing part of long ise nd. king is th house republican to announce plansero leave aext year's olection. a record-settingis causing parts of the american midwest to
experienceanuary-like temperatures in november. that same wintry blast brought more than three inches of snow to chicago today, forcing some 900 flights to be cancelled. one plane slid off the runy at o'hare international airport, but no injuries were reported. stocks were flat on wall street today over uncertainty about u.s./china trade talks the dow jones industrial average gained ten points to close at a record 27,691. the nasdaq fell 11 points. and the s&p 500 slipped six. and, america paid tribute to our nation's veterans today with wreath-laying ceremonies, parades, and other events. president trump spoke at the 100th annual new york city veterans day parade, while vice president pence attended a solemn service at arlington tional cemetery. we'll have more on today's commemorations at the end of the program. still tone come on thehour,"
a power vacuum in bolivia as thi lo leader steps down amid violent protests. the long journey of rudy giuliani-- the man in the middle of the impeachment inquiry.am amy walter anda keith on the outset of a historic week. plus much more. >> woodruff: president trump today praised the bolivian people and that nation's military for forcing the resignation yesterday of bolivia's longtime presint, evo morales. mexico today announced it would offer morales asylum, as a power vacuum prevailed in the andean nation. but with morales and his top deputies all gone, what w for
bolivia? nick schifrin orports. >> repter: today in la pazit public buses sorched and abandoned. pharmacies are ransacked, and oted. south america's poorest country is violently divided, and right now, leaderless. >> ( translated ): what we need now is control over lootings,ie s that are taking place. but all of the citizens are in agreement that a change of government needed to happen. >> reporter: that change happed yesterday, when long president evo morales announced on state tv-- with a musical he was victim of a coup. >> ( translated ): i am resyigning precisely so that brother and sisters, leaders, authorities of the socialist movemes don't continue to be held hostage, chased, threatened. i am very sorry fothis civic coup d'etat. >> reporter: but what morales calls a coup, his opnts call the prevailing odemocracy. for three weeks, hundreds of thousands of protestors filled s e streets, accusing mora being a dictator and violating the constitution.
before running for theourth reme last month, moralesgnored sidents who filled the streets complained of increasing corruption. the protests became increasingly violent, with demonstrators and police clashing in clouds of tear gas. and yesterday morning, the final straw-- military commander williams kaliman said morales had to go. >> ( translated ): after analyzing the situatiooffl internal ct, we suggest the president of the state resign his presidential mandate, lowing peace and continued stability for the good of our bolivia. >> he really misunderstood he was losing the consent of the governed, a significant degree.ob >> reporter: rt garland is a former u.s. ambassador to bolivia. he acknowledges that morales was popular, and successfully helped lift up the poor to create a. middle class >> he made enormous progress in
but what has happened is that, in many way, he overstayed his welcome. corruption.lso witnessed financial corruption, but also political corruption. and so, people had begun to move away from him, including a sileificant percentage of pe who had been supporters originally. >> reporter: morales was bolivia's first leader of indigenous origin. heas from this rural, poor area. and today, his supporters say he was overthrown by a middle class minority. kathryn ledebur is the director of a bolivian think tank. >> it's interesting the way at the conflict has evolved now, it's really splitting down much more on class lines and ethnic lines and rural-urban lines. >> reporter: morales supporters blame the mitary and police for acting illegally, and warn his ouster could lead to more violence. >> it's clear that corruption persists in the police force, the police for is an institution with deteriorated credibility and now at this
point in time, that situation has become even worse. >> reporter: after m resigned, his vice president, the senate president, and the lower house president-- all in line to take over-- also signed. opposition leader carlos mesa called the vacm of power, the d of tyranny. >> ( translated ): the clear an unequivoll of the democratic opposition, of the ipvic opposition and the bolivian citizenis that a democratic government has to be built and that means sy respecting the political constitution of the state. >> reporter: that could be leden by newe president jeanine anez, whose emotion showed in la paz today. whether she can succly transition away from morales, could help influence democracy across a region with a history of military coups. >> if it goes in the direction of either returninto the radical left, or going further, or away from democracy, or a military dictatorship that could ve others ideas in other countries ideas, too.
so this is in many ways, a kind of laboratory. >> reporter: there's still a debate, if this was democracy restored, or democracy denied. but both sidesgree-- in today's bolivia, no one gets to stay in power, forever for the pbs newshour, i'm nick schifrin . >> woodruff: it has been another da of new twists and hundred more pages of documents released in the impeachment inquiry. lisa desjardins and yamiche alcindor are here to help us break it down and understand it. so to th of you, hello. this has all happened just in the last couple of hours. in fact, one of these sets of transscripts, lisa, has come just within the hour. >> that's right. >> woouff: so the two of you have been scrambling to catch up, to read the transcrypt. that's right. >> woodruff: so let's talk about these former, these are
former state depertment and fodefense department officials. >> that's right. let's starred with laura cooper, a defense departmentfficial which is a unique perspective. usually you have been hearing she is the deputy assistant defense secretary, specializes in russia where she says she spends most of her time but also works on long-term strategy for russia and for ukraine. she has been with the def department since 2001 but she says this year at one pointf almost aller time was spent on ukraine because of what wasn happening,r transcrypt which you say we just got, we learned that there was high concern and surprise when the aid money to ukraine was being froze en. the department of defense is one of the last to sign off on that. she said when thearned it. was frozen, that is something she oversees, no one understood it, and even more, judy, this is interesting. ine says seniors involve that process questioned if they congress had already appropriated those millions of dollars, and it waos ready to g.
they weren't sure even the president had the ability to stop that money from flowing to ukraine. >> woodruff: and this backs up other testimony given by others. >> it does. none was sure why the money was being frozen. >> woodruff: so yamiche, still more testimony from ven state departnt and one former state department official. >> yes, so the next person whose transcrypt was released today is christopher anderson, specialr advisor fo ukraine negotiations, also a carr foreign service officer. and he was an aid to kurt volker who was the u.s. envoy to ukraine at the time. he says he is essenally irregular chan theal rudyhis giuliani had when it comes to our relationship with ukrae d the u.s. policy with ukraine. he said that rudy giuliani was en as an obstacle to both increasing relationship with ukraine but a also n obstacle when it cometo pressuring russia.the other thing is that a conversation with william taylor. that is the current u.s. ambassador to ukraine. and they both say lk, we should not be pushing for any
sort of individual in dstigation. th't mention the bidens by name but they say anything having to do with that is really not somethg the u.s. should be involved in. he dusker of course, also say that he didn't actually hear vowrt kurt volker which slt u.s. envoy e,to ukrain he didn't actually hear him say that there was any sort of investigationee thatd to be done with the bidens or with barisma, which is of course the company that huntfo biden was working >> woodruff: and lisa, yet another t of transcrypts. >> right, so the womanhout took over from christopher anderson is named katherine cross, she was then the next advisor to kurt volker. she is also a special advisor for ukraine negotiations.of now a couple hings about her. as you see she also worked on ukraine issues for the national security council, nine years she of fact, as a career foreignter service officer. now what is interesting is she took over from the man, yam impe was just talking about in july. that is right as all of this wa. starting to- >> woodruff: the middle of this. i> the middle she said volker
told her he was to try to keep her out of the geul annie mess. however she also said kut volker came to her about this idea of asking ukraine for anst ination and asked her have we ever done this before, meaning has the united states ever asked another country for an investigation like this. it was that exceptional tohem. one other note, the time line just expanded with her testimony. she said that the first-- there was another package of ukrainian aid back in 2017. at that point one agency had objected to that ukrainian aid. it was mick mul vannee when he ran the office of bujts, and she testified mulvaney didn't like it then because he was worried about what russia would think. to protect ukraine from russian aggression. but here was mul viein's wo about what-- mulvaney worried about whawsh thought. >> woodruff: a diffeornt set of pies. and quickly mick mulvaney we learned is trying to join the
lawsuit by former nationalr security advihn bolton and his deputy charles cupperman who are appealing whether they should testify before congress. mick muly is very importanttaff to this, a lot for the reasons lisa just pointed ou. ere are officials and witnesses pointing to mick mulvaney in their tesmo saying he was part of the white house strategy, he was the one having theat convens, now he is saying look, i want the courts to decide whether i should have to testifore congress. that is controversial because he works just a few feet away from the president, and essentially e is telling him we don't want you to sho up toking could. but if the court tell mick mulvaney shoip, he is saying i might show up. that will be prooblematic his relationship with president r trump. the oting is all the politics, mick mulvaney is seen as on the outs with the president,till has an acting title, he is acting chief of f.aff, not permanent chief of st and as a result people think that this is also possibly a warning to president trump that
i could go to congress and tellh gs about you if you don't essentially bring me back into the inneufircle. >> woo very fast moving as we are now just a little more than a day a which from these public hearings and a a lot of fast work, thank you, yamiche and li. >> you're welcome. >> woodruff: clos various state department officials put rudy guliani at the center of the impeachment inquiry. he is the president's personal lawyer-- but now his own actions in ukraine, ones that are being called "shadow foreign policy," have put him and his associateos under the mipe. yamiche alcindor has this report on how a man once known as america's mayor arrived at this moment. sot guiliani 191111 8:20 >> we just pray to god that we can save a few people. a >> alcindor: tacks on september 11, 2001 thrust rudy guiliani onto the national stage. >> america mayor. he's the mayor of new york city. ladies and gentleman, rudy giuliani. >> i thank you for your
leadership on the ground. >> alcindor: for a city in crisis, giuliani, the mayor of new york, was seen as a steady leer. he helped rally those in grief and is often remembered for his fortitude during those times. prior to 9/11, giuliani was a divisive figure. >> i speak my mind. it was that way yesterday. t it's goingbe that way today. it's going to be the same >> alcindor: he presented himself as a tough on crime mayor who was going to clean up the city. >> it's gonna stop and end when we change the people who are running new york city. >> alcindor: but under his tenure, new york ushered in controversial policing tactics. >> no justice, no peace! >> alcindor: a federal judge later ruled some were racial discriminatory and was hence unconstitutional. before he was mayor, giuliani made a name for himself as one of the country's most powerful prosecutors. >> you're dealing with a true crime empire. >> reporter: early in the reagan administration, he was the associate attorney g-- the third-highest position in the department of justice. then, he became u.s. attorney for the federal pros's
office in manhattan. there, he was known for going edter corruption and organ crime. >> 12 board members have aided and abted wire fraud. >> alcindor: andrea bernstein, co-host of the tru inc. podcast from wnyc and propublica, has covered giuliani for decades. >> he put the families that ran the national mafia in prison. he sent corrupt political figures to prison, including a business partner of roy cohn, who president trump has often referred to as the lawyer no one else could match. and he also went after wall street traders. >> alcindor: in new york, giuliani was a big name. so was donald trump. the two ran in similar circles: >> they're of a certain era and they both have really made their bones by selling their brands, in trump's case, glitz and success, in rudy giuliani's case, law and order.
when rudy ran for mayor, trump became a major financial backer. and the giuliani administration helped trump's business projects, and they struck up a friendship, a chemistrlly, which has lasted all the way into the present.th >> alcindor: ie year 2000, r the two appeared togethe a comedy sketch for a press dinner. >> oh, you dirty boy.ug donald i tht you were a gentleman. >> alcindor: in 2007, not long after leaving the mayor's office, giuliani ran for republican nomination for president. several months, but dropped out after the florida primary without securing a single delegate. >> thank you all for your hard work, your spirit, and your support. >> alcindor: in 2016, guiliani was an early and vocal supporter of then candidate trump: >> what i did for new york, donald trump will do to america. >> alcindor: and when robert mueller began investigating the president as special counsel,
mr. trump turned to giuliani to be one of his personal lawyers. giuliani tootheir defense right to the court of public opinion on tv. >> the president did not collude with the russians. whatever collusion is. >> alcindor: now, guiliani finds impeachment inquirter of the >> so you did ask ukraine to look io joe biden. >> of course i did. >> alcindor: in closed door depositionon capitol hill, a parade of witnesses said giuliani played a critical role oin shaping u.s. policy t ukraine to benefit president trump politically.in thial whistleblower complaint that sparked the impeachmeninquiry states: e president's personal lawyer, mr. rudolph giuliani, is afi central re in this effort. the top u.s. diplomat toam ukraine, wilaylor, told to u.s. house investigators he was concerned about giuliani's astions. he said giulianieading a" irregular, informal channel of u.s. policy making with respect to ukraine." for guiliani, his work abroad has often been met with legal scrutiny. in 2001 giuliani launched a lucrative consulting firm.
hi-clients spanned the glob brazil, qatar, romania, argentina. >> by the time he ran for president in 2007, his disclosure forms showed that he'd gone from having less than five million dollars in asse when he left city hall to about somewhere between 20 and $50 million in assets, and much of that had come through these foreign business relationships. >> alcindor: a lot of that work remains mysterious, for example his work in turkey and with an iranian dissident group may have broken the law. >> rudy giuliani is going on a fishing trip, as in an information gathering trip in ukraine. >> alcindor: ukraine though is at the heart of the impeachment. inqu it might also be central to a possible criminal investigation. into giuli >> a criminal investigation into rudy giuliani's work in ukraine. >> joining us now a key figure in the ukraine drama, rudy giuliani, the president's personal lawyer. >> alcindor: giulifii made his rst trip to ukraine in 2003.
that began a decade of consulting and publicity tripshe toountry. >> people in countries aroundhi the world see m as a conduit to the trump administration. he began going-- he began working in ukraine for the mayors of various cities, for the mayor of harkif,he mayor of kiev. began making trips ther it doesn't seem like these trips involv real consulting work, maybe a speech, but certainly appearances. >> alcindor:uring the first two years of the trump administration, giuliani ramped up his trips to ukine. when he sought to dig up dirt on president trump's political rivals there he turned to two associates: v parnas and igor fruman >> these two individuals with a series of different kinds of businesses but no real track record in american politics began to get very, very close and to make very generous donations to trump's politicalca es. what was unusual about this isly that they reidn't have a business profile and in the case
ind yet they were making contributions ruup to the hundreds of thousands of dollars to republican political causes. >> alcindor: giuliani dispatched parnas and fruman to kiev. they were to uncover informatioo ndermine the u.s. intelligence community and findings that russia interfered in the 2016 election. in their efforts, the two connected giuliani with the ukrainian prosecutor general ate the ti, yuri lutsenko. >> lutsenko was a former prosecutor in ukraine and he is somebody that at one point in the past year said that he had information that could be t damagithe bidens and was working closely with rudy giuliani in his effort to, as giuliani saw it, expose some kindf malfeasance by the bid family. now, it's worth saying that there is no such evidence of that. alcindor: giuliani's meetings with lutsenko are an important thread in the impeachment investigation. as for parnas and fruman, they
ran into their own legal troubles. >> this investigation is about corrupt behavior. deliberate lawbreaking. >> alcindor: the two have been indicted by federal prosecutors for allegedly illegally funneling campaign contributions to get the u.s. ambassador to ukraine removed from her post, among other charges. >> my knowledge in the spring and summer of th year about any involvement of mr. giuliani was in connection with a campaign against our ambassador to ukraine trump's nominee to be ambassador of russia, deputy secretary of state john sullivan, in his public confirmation hearing before the senate last month. as these questions swirl, giuliani has been noticeably absent from his once frequent tv appearances.oe he has been naed by the u.s. house. tofar, he is refusi comply.r fothe pbs newshour, i'm yamiche alcindor.
>> woodruff: to set the stage for this first week of public impeachment hearings, i'm here with amy walter of tok political report." she's also the host of publicdi s "politics with amy walter." and tamara keithrom npr. she also co-hosts the "npr politics podcast." and before i turn to both of you, and welcome by the way, politics monday, a little bit of late-breaking news. and we were just talking about it with yamiche and lisa, and that is the inquiry or the filing by theu acting white se chief of staff mick mul vaibee who was wanting-- mul scrainee who was wanting to join the lawsuit by white house speciallt ecurity advisor john bolton, his deputy. charles cupperman, who were questioning their being spped to subpoena to appear before congress. he has withdrawn that filing.
we can set that aside for the as so many otheeces as bothuing of you know, now amy the hearings public hearings starting in two days. different from hearings behind closed doors? >> well, rht other than the fact it's public on camera. >> right. >> well, the ther row is that this coumaybe change people's opinions about impeachment which im very doubtful thgoing to happen. if you go back and you look at what the public hearings did during the nixon impeachment era, they did move public opinion pretty steadily. the summer of 1973 started and the impeachment hearings were public. they were watched by almost everybody, 70% of americans said they watched those hearings liver at some point and the president nixon, his approval ratings dropped significantly over tha susmer-- summer, dropped about 13 points. and interest and support for more investigation in to watergate rose. people are much me polarized
and partisan even than they wera in the 1970s. people are getting their information from so many different sources. there is no just four television stations. obviously people are going to go to the news sources for the appeals to them.al media that and so i think what we're going to see is one hearing and a lot of different interpretations of that hearing by a lot of different sourc'r. and wegoing to see them, i think, americans still pretty well setttled inhow they feel about this, the one group that i'm watching for are those vip voters who probably haven't been paying that much attention as rtisans have to this process. maybe they get involved a little bit. right now they are a little less supportive of impeament than supportive of it. maybe this pushes that but it'sy going to be ard to do that. >> woodruff: we may see witnessecalled by the republicans. we're waiting to see how that plays out, right. >> we are waiting to see how at plays out. they have put in a long wish
list and the best way toi describe its a wish list that they have sent to the democrats on the intelligence committee. the chairman adam schiff is the one without et goes to de soid ultimately. he has the ultimate power to decide who gets called. this list that republicans sent over includes names like hunter biden and the anonymous whistle-blower who they would like to have licly testify. schiff has made it clear he has no interestther of those potential witnesses. but there are other names on that list like ambassador voaker or tim imorris son who s a national security counsel aides or . and both of them are people who rave provided closed doo depositions. in those depositions there were some items that republicans took someolace in. moriston said, for instance, although he was concerned about the president's cl with zelensky he didn't think that a law had been broken. hibconcerns were more aout
u.s. and ukrainian relations and other things like that. t in their testimony, if you read it, there are also a lot of things that are maging to the president and that further corroborate this-- this narrative that democrats have built up around the call that democrats have been able to sort of corroborate around the call.e and so itms possible, at least, that democrats would be willing to hear from those tnesses because they are not slam dunk great witnesses for the president. >> woodruff: that's . and you mentioned hunter biden, and joe biden. we will talk about ery quickly. but is joe biden in the clear here? i mean we don't. >> well certainly republicans do not want to let him go in the clear and they want toll make that case in the house. which as tam point out, not likely to happen. where it could be an issue is in impeacpasses, it goes to the senate and st republicans in much course, and they can call witnesses there during the trial. >> an one other thinrt in the
f cross examination and in the questioning that republicans will do of these witnesses in this pubc hearing, in the private depositions they were asking about hunter and joe bideemso you can expect to do that in public as well. >> for whatever reasons a man named mike bloberg has decided, maybe joe biden's chances don't look as god as he thought a few months ago. he is now seriously exploring getting in. amy, quickly to you first. is this going to change the race if he gets in. >> if he gets in, maybe. but on the mars ns. there en conventional wisdom among, especially among democrats inside the beltway, elite and establishment that joe biden cannot win the nomnation race against donald trump.in the and what is happening today is this establishment, elite group of people saying we've goo ind a way to ensure that if it is not joe biden, if he collaps because there is this assumption amongst this group that he is going to llapse that somebody has to be there as sort of the moderate standard
bearer. izabeth warren's positions especially on things like medicare for all are way too far to the left for the swing state voters. but is michael bloomberg the answer that people are looking for? if you are amy klobuchar or pete buttigieg, are you ways raisurg and saying you know what, i think i can pick up the slack if joe biden is not around. >> woodruff: biden is saying i'm not week, i am go to win this. >>e is still running for president. and though it's interesting, ono of mleagues spoke with one of biden's allies. isn't in the race then michael bloomberg would be a great w optich was slightly off message. >> woodruff: one if ore tha slightly, so very quickly to amy klobuchar who said, we noticed yesterday in an interview, she was asked about pete buttigieg who has done very well in the polls with money. and she said if thmen on the
stage, my fellow women senators harris, war reason and myself, do i think we would be standing on the stage if we had t same experience he had, no. maybe we're held to a different standard. are they? >> for sure, women are held to a different standard. at the sse time i think it alo shows the degree to which iowa has become themost important state overwhelmingly. so if pete beut gietion gets a foothold by doing really well in iowa it puts choab char, harris, those others out of the mix. >> woodruff: double standard. c tainly she is stating a fact of american politics. women tein politic not even to run sphor higher office or to run r the see until they are much older because this has been the standard. there is like a desire to have a great amount of experience. >> woodruff: speaking of these women, we will see them and the guys on stage a week from this wedneay. tamara keith, amy walter, thank you both. >> you're welcome. >> you're welcome. >> woodruff: and we want you to please join us.
please join us forpecial live coverage of the first public impeachment hearings. we start on wednesday at 10:00 e a.tern time. and be sure to sign up for our newsletter dedicated to the topic. you can find the link to subscribe at pbs.org/newshour/politics. >> woodruff: tomorrow the supreme court will hear arguments that could decide thes fate of hundf thousands of dreamers. raat's the younger generation of undocumented imms brought to this country and protected from deportation. the justices will hear arguments ovnd a series of lawsuits ar the obama-era decision and president trump's efrts to end it whatever the outcome, it will be d e of the signature decisions of this session ll land right in the middle of the 2020 campaign. ames nawaz looks at the stak and how we got to this moment.
>> nawaz: in 2012, then- president barack obama was nning for re-election when he announced a new executive action: a program giving undocumented immigrants the chance to apply for protection om deportation. >> this morning, secretary napolitano announced new actions my administration will take to mendur nation's immigration policy, to make it more fair, more efficient, and more just, specifically for certain young people sometimes called "dreamers." >> nawaz: those who qualified for the deferred action ford childhrivals program, or daca, had to arrive in the united states before june 2007 before turning 16; be enrolled in school, or have a high school ploma or g.e.d.; pass a background check, with no felony charges s datus shielded enrollees from deportation, was renewable every two years, and allowed recipients to work legally in the u.s. nearly 800,000 people received
that protection, including ewaoluwa ogundana. whether she and others should still receivecthose same prons is a central question the supreme court will take utomorrow. at the age of five, ogundana was brought to america from nigeria. she received daca status when she was 15. >> i was cstantly insecure owing i was an immigrant and hearing i didn't belong here just added to that insecurity so when i had daca anrkknew i could could have a driver's license, i could drive, i could have my own car i dieel like iad to be insecure about anything anymore it broke thatr barr insecurity. >> nawaz: but the security daca provided was supposed to be only temporary, as president obamasa in 2012. >> this is not a path to citizenship. it's not a permanent fix. this is a temporary stopgap
measure that lets us focus our resources wisely while giving a degree of relief and hope to talented, driven, patriotic young people. >> nawaz: the president's move was met by a republican chorus of criticism, branding daca illegal and unconstitutional. w in 201n obama proposed expanding daca to protectam parents of ds, the republican-controlled house struck back, voting to defund daca. 26 stas followed with suits to block the expansion. in the years since, lawmakers have tried and failed to pass several bipartisan versions of the "dream act" to offer qualified dreamers a long-term soluon, despite strong bipartisan support for a legislative fix. >> i do beeve it's unconstitutional whether you agree with the merits or not but i also believe it should be replaced it comes to an end because it's replaced by something constitutional which is a legislative action.me >> nawaz: dr' fate was thrown into further uncertainty when candidate donald trump
vowed to eliminate daca entirely. here he is, in june of 2015. >> i will immediately terminate president obama's illegal executive order on immigration, immediately. >> nawaz: once elected, president trump appeared to soften his stance. >> we're going to show great heart. ltca is a very, very diffi subject for me, i will tell you. to me, it's one of the most difficult subjects i have, because you have these incredible kids, in many cases,o in all cases. >> nawaz: but seven months later, the administration announced it wou be terminating daca. then-attorney general jeff sessions. >> to have a lawful system of immigration and serve the national interest, we cannot admit everyone who would like to hme here. >> nawaz: courtsave since halted the president's move, and several offers to reform daca have been rejected by the trump administration, including another bipartisan bill from illinois senator dick durbin, a democrat, and south carolina republican senator lindsey
.rah >> there are a lot of people on the republican side of the aisle that understand your dilemma and want to find fair solution. you have done nothing wrong you came here as childn you contributed to society you passed criminal background checks. >> nawaz: that plan ined a 12-year path to citizenship, and $1.6 billion for the president's border wall. while the overwhelming majority of daca recipients come from mexico, dreamers' come from aten least 200 diffcountries, according to government data. today, after failed attempts to pass legislation and strike a deal with the administration, the futures of roughly 700,000 people brought to this country as children lies with the supreme court. but the arguments heard by the justices may focus on very specific legal questions.co lowets have found the trump administration did not provide a solid rationale for its decision to end daca. the administration argues it has the ability to do so through executive power.
for the pbs newshour, i'm amna nawaz. >> woodruff: americans moving to rural areas in growing numbers. and some residents of those areas point to a perhaps unexpected pull: the arts. cie national governors asion reports that rural counties with performing arts organizations had pulation growth three times higher than counties without them. jeffrey brown recently found a gathering celebrating and helping to spread this trend. it's part of our ongoing arts and culture coverage, "canvas. >> brown: friday night hot jazz, but we're not in a flashy club in new york. this is the vfw in the town of grand rapids, in northern minnesota.
on the gtar, sam miltich. performed in hundreds of venues around the world, including new but this small stage is home. >> people thought i was kind of crazy to try and make a life as a jazz musician in northern minnesota.: >> broah, it does sound a little crazy. >> it does sound a little crazy. and actually maybe it is a little bit crazy, but the quality of life where i grew up-- it was just so high and i s like acutely aware of how good that life was. and i wanted that life. so then it was a series of >> brown: and he's not alone. as we saw in the nearbymi perf arts center that played host to a recent "rural the summit is a bi event held in different towns. this o 350 artists and community leaders from 25 states, to exchange ideas, celebrate the role of creativity in small towns, and fight a national narrative about ral america in
decline. >> that's a pretty simple way to tell that story. and i thinunderlying that story is often this attitude of sort of "well why don't u just get over it' or ¡why don't you just move?' and i think tt kind of ignores the history and the complexity and it often ignores all of the yople who are working rea hard to make what's next forat ommunity. >> brown: laura zabel heads springboard for the arts, a minnesota organization that helps artists and organizations in both urban and rural areas, and puts on the summit. and where do you see the arts fitting in-- what's the role ofs arts and art >> they are-- they sort of have this ability to bring together all of these different things that communities need. and i think that's necessary for a community to move forward that than just telling peopl get over it. people need outlets for their pain and their shame and theiry. the practical side of succeeding
in rural areas: there are consultations for legaaid, economic planning and career advice. with a dream of being a professional dancer, molly johnston left her hometown of battle lak minnesota, which has a population of less than 1,000, for college in iladelphia. she remembers thinking she wouldn't return until retirement. >> i was the first one out of town after graduation, rthdy to explorworld. >> brown: but family andyl lifepulled her back to battle lake. the problem: how to make it work as a dancer. >> i'm creating opportunities that didn't exist in the first place. so it's not like-- >> brown: in what sense? i mean, explain that t >> well i mean there's no dance studio in battle lake, for instance, so i can't just like walk in and be like, "hey, i have my masters in dance, can you give me a job and a weekly paycheck?" >> brown: so she and a colleague created their own organization""
dancebarn collective," to put on a festival d give opportunities to those living in rural communities. she also teaches dance classes to make ends meet. >> we're becoming part of our town's makeup that when they see show at the bar on thursdayup night people show up and i think that's something really beautiful and surprising about living in a rural town,ar >> brown: jawsmith decoux came to the summit with a different perspective: as mayor of grand marais, minnesota, a small town of about 1300 people that sits on lake superior, near the canadian border. it's a town that's long valued the arts, he says, but im now making trt of its planning and policies, like incorporating artis and creative design in the reconstruction of a local highway. >> the ia is if you can at least consider art when you're working on any policy then you won't create barriers to the
development of art in your community. >> brown: everyone here acknowledges the challengeof making a life in art in a small town: earning enough income, housing, finding an audience. >> there's a lot of this that is really-- that's uncomfortable for us. >> brown: amber buckanaga hasos faced and other challenges firsthand. a member of the leech lake band of chippewa, she lives in east lake, on the reservation, and works as a fashion designer, incorporating traditional patterns into contemporary clothing. but lack of access to proper equipment and technology are a constraint. the wifi in her area, she said, isn't "even worth paying for." we do have those challenges and then on top of us being indigenous people, it becomes more challenging. and the access that these, that the non-indigenous population has to like arts spas.s and resour front of them and es toht in
them and people feel more comfortable inviting them to those things. >> brown: so you don't have that? >> no, no we just don't have that. a >> brown: here in grand rapids, where the massive paper mill and the crucial timber industry have struggled, an arts commenity has blos there's a gallery and small shops; pop-ups in the beautifully-restored old school house, an art walk on the firsta friday o month. and jazz guitarist sam miltich, a full-time musician, is a regular at the v.f.w. with grants from a state sales tax fund for arts and culture, he's able to bring musicians from urban areas to play with him in grand rapids. miltich says he feels a sense of mission. >> i think someone dubbed the term jazz ambassador of the north or some suchhing. you know and i've always-- >> brown: which you embrace? >> which i embrace. >> brown: yeah. >> and i've always felt, i think it's a little bit of an equity thing where i always hlt that rural people are every bit
as deserving of art as any other they don't have as much access to it. so it's about providing access >> brown: for springboard's >> brown: for the pbs newshour, i'm jeffrey brown in grand rapids, minnesot >> woodruff: we close tonight with a tour of commemos on this veteran's day, from the president's visit tothew york cityvice president's trip to arlington natiod l cemetery, yond, as america halted to express its gratitude to the men and women who have defended the united states. >> today we gather to recognizec the seof everyday patriots who have dedicated their liv to our country. men and women who raise their hand and take a solemn oath.
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