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laura: this is "bbc world news america." reporting from washington, i am laura trevelyan. t countdown impeachment showdown. washington braces for public hearings into the president's dealings with ukraine, as ke witnesses get ready for the spotlight. everything for a better we meet a family of refugees w are still determined to reach europeespite losing their mother in the effort. plus, hillary clinton talks russian election interference, only this time in the u.k., not the u.s. she is calling for britain's government to release the key report. msclinton: i'm dumbfounded thathe government won't release the report about russian influence because every person who votes deserves to see the report before your election happens.
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laura: for those waton pbs and around the globe, welcome to "world news america."ac the iment inquiry in washington is about to go public. until now the testimony has been heard behind closed doors. house democrats are looking at whether esent trump abused his power by withholding military aid for ukraine while pressing for an investigation into the biden mr. trump called the inquiry a hoax. onthe first two people in of congress on wednesday are william tayl, top diplomat in ukraine, and george kent, deputy assistant secretary for european and eurasian affairs. ambassador to ukraine marie yovanovich is due to testify. meanwhile, donald trump has announced plans to probaany releasher transcript of his conversation with ukraine's president by the end of the week. to break this all down i spoke earlier with jay newton-small from "time" mazine. what is the big picture that democrats are hoping to paintth hese opening witnesses?
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jay: for them this is about the court of public opinion. if you go back to the impeachment triani of richard n, public opinion going into those trials was very much against impeachment. then they made the case that this is what the president -- this is why the president should be impeached, that this is the case against him. by the end of it you saw the menate turn against nixon and say, hey, it is o go, we think there is a compelling case you are not going to rvive. they are hoping, democrats, that the same thing will happen this time around, that they will make such a convincing case that there will be no choice and ublicans will have to turn against their own president and impeach him or tell him to go. laura: what is the case that is it that the predent abused his power, is it that he engaged in bribery jay: well, they say that there has been this quid pro quo, the question of the ukrainn call can you do me a favor, can you do this for me -- and thate thers an explicit withholding of a in order to get some kind of dirt against a polis,ritrategis
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quite interesting in defendinged in a memo released today amongst house reblthatheres tons of corruption in the ukrain and that the president had absolute right to have the ukrainians question potential corruption going on in their own country. isthe difference is that iot a question of ukrainian corruption politically within the country. it is a question of corruption that the ukrainians potentially colludeder with in an politics. heit is all intermeshed in question of what is sovereignty. is it ukrainian sovereignty, u.s. 70, and all -- u.s. sovereignty, and all so entwined it can get confusing.laura: iees are pointing out rightly that the witnesses have secondhand information about what happened. jay: it is a lot of hearsay. the whiseblower, who they already said will not be testifying, the original whistleblower, it was all secondhand information -- i hearfrom white houseers they were concerned about this
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particular call. really you have to democrats bringing forth in william kent and bill taylor the strongest cases that they thinwill make e connection in the most compelling way that there were laws broken and this was in fact collusion with a foreign agent to interfere in american elections. whether they make that case remains to be seen. laura: the president himself as meeting rkey's president erdogan, but will he be keeping an eye on the proceedings even though he says it is all a hoax? jay: we will see with th' presidens twitter feed. we will not instantaneously nowhether he is watching o my guess is that he will watch less t hearings themselves than the fox news summaries at the end of the day, which seems to be his choice way of consuming news. but he sometimes tends to tune in and-t you see him in ree responding, as we have in past hearings. it will be a circus, as they say in washington. but one in which they say also
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that we live in interesting times in the best sense of the chinescurse. ura: indeed. jay newton-small, thanks for being with us. jay was saying, turkey's president erdogan is in town for a white house visit tomorrow. some members of congress are urging president trump to uninvitehe leader. they say that turkey's invasion of northern syria was a national security and hunitarian disaster. congresswoman susan wild is on the house foreign affairs committee, and i spoke to her earlier from capitol hill. ted by asking if president trump should have gotten a commitment to a cease-fire by before granting this visit. rep. wild: i think we should have gotten the commitment before president erdogan was invited to the white house for a visit.ho it is a grear to be invited to the white house, and i don't think that it should have been done in this order. i would've liked to see the least get a commitment frommp at
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president erdogan to stop buying russian missile defense systems? rep. wild: words only means much. actions are far more important. i'm very concerned that we will heps maybe a command, or per -- maybe a commitmenla or perhapuage that is somewhat softer than a commitment, that will not be lived up to. that is why i believe at inviting him for this state visit before we saw the kinds of action we need to see had been accomplished. laura: are you worried about the kind of symbolism that this white house visit confers on president erdogan whilhe is accused of suppressing his domestic crics? rep. wild: i think we are sending the wrong message to the rest of the world. our allies have been focused very heavily on pressuring whesident erdogan at a tim we are inviting him to the white house, which as i said before is considered quite an honor to be doing that, and in the context also, as you said, of there domesticures in turkey and
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ree imprisonment of journalists and the way thatdent erdogan has behaved towards the kurds is to me sending very much the wrong message.a: lao you think congress will be sending sanctions against turkey for the president for him to sign? p. wild: i fully expect that sanctions will be entertained if something doesn't change very quickly. laura: the white house is also saying it might introduce sanctions against tuf it carries on with the russian defense system. is there common ground here? rep. wild: possibly, although we have sn inconsistent behavior on the part of the administration when it comes to turkey and this situation at th northern syrrder. i don't know if we are at the same mind as the administration orot on the issue right now. laura: congresswoman susan wild, texas a much -- thanks so much for joining us. rep. wild: thank you. laura: i will be at the white house tomorrowo bring you more on erdogan's visit, and the bbc will have special covera of the public impeachment hearings
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on capitol hill. we wl bring those to you liv along with analysis from our top team in washington starting at15 gmt on wednesday. a veryay significantn the nation's capital. more than 1000 migrants have died trying to cross the mediterrean sea into europe this year. it is one of the most dangerous the world. refugees anywhere in for many, the journey begins in libya, where our internationalrr pondent orla guerin met with a family determined to make their way acro. orla: he is how the european dream ends for some. the red crescent collects them with care from the beaches of libya. the unknown dead of the mediterranean. but this extended family from the crossing.planning toisk they have already tried it twice. a little girand her brother are now in the care of their
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aunt and their moave her all trying to get them to europe. >> this is a picture before she died. this is the last picture w have. this is the last memory. we try to remember delphin. we pray every day that she is in peace. orla: this was her a year earlier, 34 and determined tor find a betfe. her relatives tell me she gave them the strength to flee the poverty at home and traveled to libya. her sister tells me delphin gavi h locked in a detention center without proper medical care, and she says their long
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journey with the peo traffickers was a journey through hell. >> the rapes would happen like this. d they wouand we take our clothes off in front of the men and the boys. they would take us and do what they wanted with thwere beaten, really beaten, if they did not do what they were ld. there is one strong aly and we thought he might be the one to break out of the prison. they took a machete and they cut his ligaments so he couldn't move. in the end, he died. orla: for delphin, death came after two days at sea on a smuggler's boat. she and the children were caught and put back in detention, where she died in agony.
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>> she was crying out.i ke and asked what was wrong for the she said she had a -- what was wrong. she said she had a headache.lo we wered in. there was nobody there at night. i was praying that the sun would rise and people woulcome. she was dying in front of me, and i was powerless. orla: delphin's dream was for her 11-year-old to be a footballer in europe. >> i know if i go to europe i will be somebody to her. orla: how long has it been since >> two year since i go to school. orla: and you misst? >> ms it. orla: he admits he is scared to cross the mediterranean, but he is still clinging to his mother's dream.
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orla guerin, bbc news, trili. laura: he carries on without his mother. in other news, israeli leader benjamin netanyahu hco warned therd be a protracted flareup of tension with gae military i following israel's killing of a hacond islamic commander. for the second day clashes have continued along the gaza border. schools were closed as more than 150 rockets were fired from gaza in retaliation for the killing. the supreme court heard arguments in a case that affects almost 700,000 yng people. known as the dreamers, he came to they u.s. lega children and were given legal status under president obama. the trump admintotration wants nd the program known as daca , deferred action for childhood arrivals. a cision is expected in 2020. former bolivian president evo morales has arrived in mexico city, saying he asked for asylum
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because his life was in danger. mr. morales resigned on sunday after wes of protests over a disputed presidential election result. former u.s. president jimmy icartrecovering at a hospital in atlanta following surgery today to relieve pressure on his brain after he fell. there were reported to be no complications with the operation. the 94-year-old will rema in hospital for observation. the situation in hong kong is gettinworse by the day, with the police spokesman saying that of law has been pushe to the brink of total collapse. the latest flashpoint was at a local university, where protesters werlein running bawith the police. it comes a day after shocking footage of an officer shooting a demonstrator at close range. robert brand has more. robin: "run," she discounting in cantonese, and they are -- she is shouting in cantonese, and foey are running, but nor fun.
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university racetraere the escaping the tear gas and rubber bullets as police raided their campus. moving on to the grounds of a chese university is a marked escalation by the police. they said they needed to stop hropleing bricks and other dangerous items from a campus bridge onto passing traffic. by night, that bridge became the front line in a standoff. police on e side, protesters on the other, a raging fire in between. 24ours previously, this place have been completely normal. across the university, protesters and students formed a human chain to supply the front line with water and food. rsot sat inri groups, prepa their supply of weapons. you are sitting here making actual bombs. -- petl bombs. >> why we are doing this, yesterday you note that used
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real bullets. that can kill someone. if the upgrade theier weapons, we need to upgrade our weapons, too. robin: this scene shows cau how drastiy the nature of this confrontation has changed. it started out five months ago with hundreds of thousands of g on the stree in peaceful demonstrations. now at the entrance through university, there is a roadblock on fire, a burned-out car blocking the entrance tthe bridge, and around me, dozens of protesters in black sitting and coming next. knowing what is the start of this week has been different here. a standoff at the university more dangerous in its six-month now, this particular part of the purchase felt less like a confrontation -- of the protest felt less like a confrontation and more like a conflict. laura: hong kong grows even more divided and violent with no obvious way out. you are watching "bbc world news
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america." still to come on tonight' progm, a royal first. the spanish king and queen touchdown in cuba to mark 500 havana.nd's the founding of -- since the founding of havana. australian firefighters say they have a long way to go to contain huge bushfires that are burning out of control in eastern australia. the flames have come close to homes in sydney.ce here is so mer phil: fires abe unpredictable asts. more than 70 are burning across new southales. about half are out ofn control i is rugged and hard to reach. 3000 firefighters have prepared for what officials said was the most dangerous fire week t populous state s ever seen. a catastrophic fire warning was isned for the first time i sydney.
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there are fires in the suburbs of sydney. the outbreaks here came very close to homes just over the roads from the bushha lands continue to burn. ze has been brought unde control, and the substance you can see on the road and on the roofs of these houses is fire retardant. these fires just go to show how dangerous it can be here in australia's biggest city, as conditions get worse. homeownersuc here were. their properties were spared and even thoughs flad raged just meters away. >> a lot of cracking noise and the flames were really black up in the sky i can't even explain it to you. i won't see my house again. phil: the fear is that in such dry and dusty conditions, new fires could start easily and spread quickly.
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condions in new south wales etomorrow aected to be far less extreme. for now, sydney remns hostage to a smoki, toxic haz phil mercer, bbc news, sydney. laura: hillary clinton is worried about russian election interference, t in the u.s., but in britain. the goverreent there will ase a report -- won't release a report on whether russia meddled in the u.k. elections including the until after the election. presidential hopefs the decision is shameful. her comments come as more democrats consider getting into the u.s. presidential race. so would she run again? mrs. clinton along with her daughter, chelsea, have been speaking to the bbc's mishal husain.
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mishal: it would be gutsy to have another go at it. ms. clinton: it would be very gutsy, that is true. it is something i thinabout all the time. i think a lot about what is happening in our country, around the world. i try to give the best advice i can to the candidates who are running because my goal is to r heire the current incumbent. i think it is imperative that our country regain its leadership a its credibility, so i will do everything i can to make that happen. inmishal? will you be endo one of them? ms. clinton: i don't think so. i think i will suppom and answer their questions in any way i can. but once we have a nominee, to do everything i know to do to win.o mishal: whatu think about what is happening in this country, the direction o brexit? ms. clinton: my real hope is that the u.k. sorts itut. it is up to the people of this country to decide the direction.
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but we need a strong u.k. we need a u.k. with smart, sensible, forward-looking leadership. i'm dumbfounded that this government won't release the report about russian influence, because every person who votes in this country deserves to see happens.ort fore your election that should be an absolute conditio because there is no doubt, we know it in our country, we have seen in europe, we have seen it here, that russia in particular isin dete to try to shape the politics of western democracies, not to our benefit, but to theirs. mishal: why do you think they are not releasing it? ms. clinton: i don't know the answer that. i think a reporter like you and others should be relentless in trying to get to the bottom of it. we know from even this current trump administration's
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intelligence officials that the russians are still in ou electoral system. we know they are still pumping we know that they very much like to ensure the reelection of someone who has done their bidding, who just recently said he hopes he can be in red square on may 1 with military parade.ay day there is no doubt of the role that russia played iour 2016el tion and is continuing to play. there is a lot of evidence that russ played in the brexit election. now, i am not in your country bod i d't have a say any of that, but the fact that the current government won't release this report by your own questions. should raise some laura: hillary clinton asking questions about motion election
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interference in the now, royal history is being made in communist cuba. the king and queen of spain have begun an official visit to the island, the first time that ha ever happene the trip coincides with a 500th anniversary of the founding of havana, and is cuba's relations with i washington, whiroved under president obama, turned sour once again. from havana, will grant reports. will: it is a busy heavy with historic symbolism. when king felipe stepped off the plane with queen letizia, he became the first spanish king to make an official visit to cuba. thepcoming 500th anniversary of havana seemed like a good opportunity to the communist-run government to show them the island which christopher columbus once described as the most beautiful ld evereen. for years, havana has been slowly restoring its splendid architecture, and the government is keen to show its best face to the spanishoyal
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ong ose to be honored during the trip is the man responsible for hav >> we will illuminate the land at the top of the central dome as it was originally, a ray of light which along with the l moro castle represents a symbol of havana for the ages. will: yet the royalsrrive at a complicated time, too. s cuba ieling the pressure of new economic sections from washington targeted at the island's fuel supply. as the spanish royals and driven around the city, they may notice the long queues for petrol. the effcts of the latest tightening and sanctions of the trump administration can best be seen here at the petrol pump. the collapse in bilateral relations has turned the simple act filling the car with fuel into a daily ordeal for many cubans. at a recent forum havana with regional left-wing allre the cuban n minister warned
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that worse was to come. >> i feel the duty to tell you that difficult times are coming in which the efforts of everyone before the north american aggression will be decisive and possibly definitive. will: a in that regane, the spanish royal visit is important for the cuban government. ashe spanish king lake erie to cuba-- laid a wreath totiuba's naal hero jose marti, he noted that the island needs national support at the moment even if it does come from their form colonizers. will grant, bbc news, havana. laura: changing times in cuba. ucremember, you can findmore of all the day's news at our website. i am laura trevelyan. thank you so much for watching "bbc world news america." narrator: funding for this presentation is deossible by...
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