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captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit robert: politics and science collide at the white house. president trump: you can apply heat to cure. lbert:ds to tensions. president trump: hhee you ever d of that. >> that is a treatment. >> and unease about the economy after another stimulus bill is signed. >> that is how you are going to bring it back by states declaring bankruptcy. you will see the market fall through the cellar. robert: growing outrage as some governors push to re-open. >> we annouing plans to safely
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o-open sectorsour economy. >> i would tell him not to turn th switch on and go. robert: xt. >> this is "washington week". corporate fundings provided by -- >> life isn't a straight line and sometimes you canlfind your in direction. fidelity is helping you to work through with financial planning and advfor today and tomorrow. >> agh! >> additional funding is provided by the estate of adams and howen foundation committed
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to bridging cultural differences, the publication for public broadcasting and contributions to your pbs foundation from viewers like you. thank you. once again, from washington,de tor, robert costa. robert: good evening, as the death toll in the united states surges past 50,000e, peo president trump's asserons how to treat coronavirus continue to roil his administration. the president took no questions b the latestefing following a week of tensions between him and hlth experts. joining me to discuss these issues are reporters who you r are. nancy cors, chief congressional correondent from cbs news, toluse olorunnipa and times" and shannon pettypiece
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frombc news. a short briefing a long weeken presal claims that were at odds. here's the back sry, the cracks began to show when dr. redfield told the "washington post" that a flu a coronavirus flu outbreakill be even moreul diff than the one we went through and calls to liberate states were not helpful. the president then said redfield had been misquoted but redfield said he had been correctly quoted. president trump: dr. redfield was misquoted about t fall season and the virus, total ily misquoted. >> you were accurately quoted.
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>> i was quoted. robert: another flair up when a senior government scientist said he was rem hed from post from resisting efforts to promote hydroxychloroquine that has been used by some doctors t treat the virus. the presidentncouraged by conservati commentators. the f.d.a. warned tha they should not take the drug to take covid-19 outside of a hospital due to reports of heart issues. but it was thursday's news conference. the president expressed hope about e power of sunlight to defeat the and turned to a science administratorxp tore the idea and what he called disinfectants. president trump: i would like you to speak to theic m doctors to see if you can apply
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light and heat to cure. again, maybe it can, maybe itn' i'm not a doctor. have you ever heard of thatea and the light relative to certain viruses but relative to that. >> that is a treatment. certainly fever is a good thing when you have aever a helps your body respond but i have not seen heat and lht. president trump: i see the within a minute, one minute and is the a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning. robert: by friday morning, bleach companies issued a statement warning against improper use of their products, the president president trump: i was answering in a sarcastic question to the
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reporters in the rm about disinfectant on the inside. repo robert: you came back from the white house andow we got here to this short briefing, no questions. the president not engaging at least tonight any more about hydroxychloroquine, about disinfectants. what explains the president tonight not to take questions and continue to push the issues he was pushing on thursday? >> for weeks, the president's advisers have been telling him to cool it on the briefings and not helping him politically and the numberseflect that. they are getting worse and worse for him when you hook at the approval rating and the number of americans getting accurate information. the advisers have been telling him cut these back, do fewer of them and spend less timeth o e. and disinfectant-light briefing we had on thursday was the
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culminion or case in point of what his advisers are trying t tell them. they did not want to talk about whether or not the president told people to inject themselves withelieve or whether or not light could kill orut p a light inside someone's virus. thats not what they want to be talking about. they spent the entire day to clean this up. it started in the morning and the they said media was misquoting and dr. birx taped an interview and said thi is the president publicly musing. so the reaction tonight is hopeful that the president is going to cut bk on these briefings going forward and listen to their advice. nothing is over until it's over. robert: we are seeing a
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political calculation to pull the presidentack but there is a health cost when this pridentoes. maryland issued a statement said do not use disinfectants on your own body and you engaged with speaker pelosi who raised health concerns. nancy: and you know, what she said is obviously people should not be injecting lysol into their lungs. another stateme we never expected that anyone would have to make, but this is -- this goes beyond sarcasm. this is junk science and it's a problem because this is a time when americans need facts from n their gover more than ever. and it wasn't just maryland, but public health departments all around the country whoweeted and told people not t consider doing this. and the reason theyhe felt had to do that, robert, is because they were getting so
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many questions from citizens. you cangh sort of l it off, but this has reaworld implicatns and people watching these briefings and wonderi whether they should take this advice seriously. robert: you have looked at fferent news outlets. what is your reporting revea on that front? jeremy if you had experienced the story of thent presi remarks yesterday in the briefing through conservive media, you either would not have known he said it or you would have received a sanitized version ofhose remarks. earlier today on fox news, i listened to the waist they covered this and the editing of what the president said would have left you with the impression that he was taken out of conte that he could have
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been talking about a lifesaving experimental measure to use lihet to kill virus. and done, the political divid d in this cntry are being imposed on the real scientific conversations, medical issues that have to do withhis virus in way that is going to reflect very poorly on this country's political discourse, you essentiallyave the culture wars colliding wits t global health crisis and that is not a good thing. it's not a good thing f the people who are sick and it's not a good thing for peoe who try to preventhemselves from getting sick. the idea of a t medication, debate of a medication entering a political context is unchartered territory.
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robert: it has been unchartered rritory and think back to president kennedy in 1962 thet amendmo the food and drug safety act that drugs would be approved by the food and drug administration. when you report o this culture inside the you see the president's advisor and dr. hahn making a few remarks, what are you hearing whether health experts whether it is commissioner hahn or dr. birx feel pressure to go along with the president over science? toluse: president trump said he his brain and said he has the information he needs to direct the federal health response to this pandemic. the president wants to play a
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central rule talking about drugs that have been not vetted and it is laughab like using light inside people's bodies or disinfectant to try to get rid of a virus that very many scientific experts around the world are tryinging to figure out ways to get rid of the virus and the president trump who has no medical expertise may convince his supporters but does not actually work when it comes to getf rid o this virus. all of these experts are trying to tip toed aro the president and explain his comments and ways to work with him, work with his unique personality but it has been difficult. and dr. bright being pushed out and dr. bx and dr. fauci trying to figure out ways to
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stay on his good side and listen to him when they bring difficult decisions. and that's why we have a disjointed response fro the white house and the administration. eshoo: nancy, congressm is going to call dr. bright to testifybo the experience. will house democrats pursue investigations on all of these nancy: i asked pelosi about that in her pressonference and said absolutely. and here's where thd situation creates logistical situations. you can be sure that the house already scheduled a hearing featuring doctol bright and nt to haul him before congress as quickly as possible to hear s what he to say. at this point we are in thismb where we believe that the
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house will come back to ma washington o 4, but that is pending the decisions by not just officials here in the district of columbia, but also the capitol physician and sergeant at arms. this is a decision that is being made i all of those officials decide it is not safe, that date will get pushed back again and some of the urgency will be on lost. there was a lot of discussion over the last couplof weeks of enabling members to hold hearings theology allows them to do that, but there has been a lot o of debater that's a good idea, whether they could do it securely and itd is t to remote voting and has been pued for now which means it could be weeks before dr. bright
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speaks to congress. robert: could he come to testify before congress this summer? nancy: house democrats are eager to hear it. as long as the house i back here in washington and in session, it appears that both sides are eager to make that happen. robert: shannon,ne time question on ts, hydroxychloroquine, the f.d.a. should statement, the president touted a lab study about sunright. the political advisers are saying, maybe enough with the news conferences, but is hein to pull back about making statements that are notpproved by the f.d.a. about treatments? shannon: it has been two weeks since he talked about hydroxychloroquine. he raised in a briefing that he had coronavirus survivors w
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came into the cabinet room. but thatre wasy much it. ere has been a chip, chip, chip of stories of studies andc studies raising questions about this. the f.d.a. put out a statementn cauting people not to use it. the f.d.a. commissioner was at i theing and talked about a test that had been approved but made notion of this new hydroxychloroquinefaffed about it not talk on fox news. so i think on this front, te white ho frying to distance themselves from that. but as we saw in the briefing with the light and the disinfectant, the president can't help himself from wanting to go down the path of a miracle re and talked about a vackine coming very soon, which it isno but again, trying to get into
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dr. trump's mind set and we continue to see that.o robert:e briefing is the big story in washington for political reporters most days. t the big story for almost every american is the economy, what going on with their bank account and economy and four millio americans filed for unemployment. and the "washington post" noletted thatobless figures have not been seen. congress responded to this economic pain by passing a an aid package. in short, it includes, $300 billion for the small business program, and hospitals and virus testing. $500 billion was sought by governors. senator mcconnell opposed that request sparking fury from sore
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governors. and looking to jump start their economies, governor cuomo was at the white houseith the president this week. >> frankly, this is no time to act stupidly, period. i get the pressure. i get the politics. we can't make a bad decision and we can't be stupid about it. this is not going be over. any time soon. robert senator kemp of -- governor kp of georg is opening businesses. it came after pressure from conservatives and this message. president trump: i told t governor of georgia that i disagree strongly with his decision to open certain facilities which are in violation of the phase one
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guidelines. at the same time,e must do what he thinks is right. is right. to do what but i disagree with him on what he is doing. robert: nancy, how much of a hard line is the majority leader taking on this upcoming negotiation? will he yield onegotiati to aid to states? we have seen him back off on previous rounds of talks? nancy: you watched him conduct these negotiations in the past. and he is a savvy negotiator and if he stakes it out in the beginning where it looks like it is only democrats that want this stnge fun he can go ahead and give it to them and said i have given youhat you want and here's what i want. when the reality is, frankly, that mere republicans along wito ats know that statesre going to need another bailout.
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their revenue is shrinking rapidly and spending more to ombat this crisis and both governors are telling congress they are going to need this thes fds. i'm not sure that mcconnells going to stick to this position, but clearly as congress revs for the next negotiation over as ca 2 or phase four, whatever you call it, that is going to be a big part of it and he is trying to find a negotiating position to enable h to get things he wants. robert: you just fil a story for "washington post." what is the real story behin the scenes scenes? he is in line but in odds with the president?s toluse: he able to propel himself to the top of the ticket. but sin he too office, he has
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clashed with the president in clueding his the new senator. president trump one of s. enator collins and we see them clashing of the opening up o georgia. president trump seemed to be very much in favor of the fact at georgia was going to open up very quickly l ase as last week and a this week. there was pushback that spass and bling alleys would bede incl and they said that isn't what they recommended and that was indirect contrast to president trump's own guidelines which the president has eemed unfamiliar with. the president decided to blicly rebuke governor rebuke and surprising the governor's aids after speaking to president
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tr but criticized him on wednesday and doubled down and wasn't happy how he was handling this. president trump had called governor kemp and asked him to modify his order and governor kemp declined and said he was going to move forward and that clash is continuing with the top republican governor and the president. robert: you covered the tea party for years and you said earlier this being a culture war, we saw thousands of the wisconsin state capitol, is there a new tea party on the right to pressure some of these governors? jeremy there is an element of therv conive base which is unhappy with these restricks. i think, though, the question is what type of conservativismoes that represent and is that brand of conservativism dead because
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of the coronavirus? and i think this is something that i hear my sources talking about. the answer iset free-ma conservativism is on lifesu ort. it is an ideology that republicans have no use for and almost zero political will from the people to see those types of policies enacted. small government-free market conservativism really has no role in thisype of environment. and so when you see these protestors. there are thousands in michigan, kentucky there are hundreds. robert: they are pretty small. jeremy by and large they ha small and fringey. people are waving confederate flags and carrying semi-automatic weapons. this i not an outpouring that we covered in 2009 and 2010.
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i do think, though, there is a difference bween that type of uprising and revolt, which is fairly contained and the type at you could see slowly bubbling up. i woo kite call it a revolt but as people described it to me, patience are fraying. there areeopleho are home now at weeks. robert:hey are getting restless. jeremy i want toll get shannon in here real quick. speaki the fight on the right. the president is pushing on immigration, is that going to continueith more executive orders? shannon: that was the way to get theopic back into his comfortable turf. he wanted to talk about immigration and can't. a way to get theat conven on his turf for the number one
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this picture of a future where there are so many jobs that immigrants are floodinger and spin the thing forward and people think things will be be. l than they actually robert: packing it all into 30 minutes is n easy in weeks like. nancy cordes, jeremy peters, shannon pettypiece and toluse olorunnipa. our conversation will conti online. this week's topic, the 2020 campaign. from washington., good night >> corporate funding for
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