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n foundation. by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing sol for america's neglected needs. and by contributions to this pbs stion from viewers like you. thank you. welcome to "outside source." president bolsonaro has lvid-19. we we live in sao paulo. esther day, boris johnson said bout care homes during t pandemic. >> too many care homes did not follow the procedures in the way that they could have. we are learning lessons th whole time.ros: care homes haven
affected by the coronavirus and thereas been a reaction to that. the prime minister is not apologizing. >> for him to brush over the government's failings and blame the social sector was, as i say, at best, clumsy. ros: melurne and australia is backern lockdown aecording its highe number of daily covid cases. we will look at what is behind that surge. the trump administration has the video sharing app tiktok sights. mike pompeo was asked whether he would recommend downloading it. >> only if you want your private information in the hands of the chinese communist party. ro welcome to the program. we have to start witpresident bolsonaro, no he is part of the total number of cases. here he is telling reporters earlier, he appears without a mask, then puts one on. he tells them he haseen feeling unwell, had a fever, suffering some pain, and then took a coronavirus tes
now he says he fls perfectly well. >> for example, i i have not taken the covid-19 test, i would not know the results. it turns out to be positive. ros: this is a man who has repeatedly downplayed the seriousness of the coronavirus. there any numbers of example i could show you. this is one from martz -- from march after the first covid death. >> m iny history of athleticism, if i was to be infected, i would not have to worry. i would not fe it. it would be like a flu or being under the weather. red health advice andaro has continued to attend social events. here he is at a rally in april protesting against social distancing in lockdown measures. he called repeatedly during that event. he has refused to wear a mask most of the time, despite it being compulsory since april. we were not short of options. here is one example from may. other rallies, he has been shaking hands with supportges.
this foos from march and throughout the pandemic, the president has been nothing if not consistent. is was last week. >> [speaking foreign language] translator: we need po respect thdemic. we regret those who have died, but i will make it very clear, the objective of the lockdown, of staying at home, was for hospitals to prepare themselves with intensive care beds and respite it -- respiratts. i don'now of a single person who has lost their life because of a lack of i see yo o access r la respirator. the goal is not to let the person who is infected in fact everyo else, because sooner or later, people will get the virus. ros: brazil is th epicenter of the pandemic in latin america. the number of cases is passed 1.6 million. the who tells us no one is immune. >> the virus does not really know who we are, whether we are prince or people, we are equally vulnerab. what highlights is our collective vulnerability to this disease.
wish mr. bolsonaro and his family the best in this regard. it is a in any -- brazil is a great nation a faces a difficult task at a difficult time. ros: south america correspondent katy watson is with us in sao paulo. tell us about the reaction there has been. reporter:ee it hasa very mixed reaction. this is a divided country politically. i think he has certainly made very many enemies in his handling of the crisis. the reaction haseen anything from go to. this is something he presumably thought was coming. people wishing him well. yes, the fact is it is from the very beginning that he is downplayed this virus. he has said that he would probably not reallffer many symptoms. he has been quite dismissive of the death toll as it continued to rise. course, he has the viru
himself. the fact -- the irony has not been missed among the ian public here today in the country. ros: is it going to have any impact on his ability to lead i braziln the short term? reporter: he says he has canceled engagements, he will be doing veoconferences from the palace in brasilia for now. so he is taking doctors advice here, clearly making sure that he will distance. although as you pointed out, when he did the press conference, he did take his mask off. the journalists were close to him. er still has got that cava attitude. i think that is something that he will continue to have. he wants the economy back up and running. we have seen in sao paulo and in rio last week shops beginning to open, bars and restaurants. e push to return to normality. but with the death toll rising with the cases every day, being so huge, lessons of normality is not quite there yein brazil. ro the last time we spoke on
"outside source," the bars and restaurants in sao paulo had hoarted opening. is that going? reporter: i went around the block, seeing how these restaurants are opening. there have bn some shops that have refused to open. s th that is not a good idea and they want to protect their woers, they want to protect the public. so they have decided to remain closed. the vast majority, after more than thr months in quarantine, brazil locked down at the same time in europe, it has been in lockdown for longer, we are still in quarantine in sao paulo. there's a sensef wanting to get back to normality, wanting to get the economy going. people need money. but it is coming at exactly the wrong time, given brazil is still not yet to have peached th anytime soon. ros: thank you. guyer bolsona is the latest in a string of leaders who have tested positive for covid-19.
british prime minister boris johnson ended up in intenesve care afterng positive in ril. several other members of his cabinet got the virus too including his advisor, dominic cummings. prince charles, the next in line to the throne, tested positive. and recovered after a period of self isolation. the honduran presidentiz was hospit after being diagnosed with a virus. he has now recovered. the european union's chief negotiator of brexit told us in april that he had the covid-19 virus as well. and russia's prime minister became the highest profile politician to test pub -- test positive forhe virus. other examples, the novi and announced on facebk that he had the rus. filly, are on, there were a number of different officials well over a r dozen, anigious figures as well who have died
after contracting covid-19. the list goes on. the virus, as we heard from the w.h., is not discriminating between those in power and everyone else. let's turn to a story in the u.k. there has been reaction from charities running its care home sector after boris johnson said too many care homes didn't really follow procedures as the covid pandemic began.ov somenment and ministers have said what he meant was that no one knew what thepl correct of action was at the start of the crisis. the opposition wants an apology. here is our affairs correspondent to pick up the story. reporter: thishe was reality for saint ives lodge care home on april 15, the day the government set out its support plan f care homes. they had already lost six residents. ♪ reporter: at that point, covid-19 outbreaks in residential and nursing homes had peaked, and thoweands of live being lost, getting
ppe was a struggle, testing for care staff was only introduced that day, and government help felt too little, too late. >>re the last ks wwe have been to the hospital where we have been dealing with end-of-life patients. it has been so awful. i mean, it is awful. it is just surreal. it really is. errepo against that backdrop, these comments from the prime minister have caused outrage. >> we discovered too many care homes didn't rely follow the procedures in the way that they could have. but we are learning lessons the whole time. i think at best, he was clumsy and cowardly by effectivel picking on a sector that the vast majority of these fantastic frontline care workers are on minimum-wag many without sick pay. for him to brush over the govement's failings and blame the social care sector was, as say, at best, clumsy. reporter:to the care s
maintains it was forgotten at the start of the pandemic. in the first month, patients were discharged from hospitals to care homes without tests. ev council officia described distribution of protective equipment to homes as shambolic. vernment guidance as contradictory. in the commons today, it was down to theealth and social care secretary to clarify boris johnson's comments. >> throughout this crisis, care homes have done amazing work. explaining that ber was asymptomatic transmission was not known about, the correct procedures were therefore not known, and we have been constantly learning about this virus from the start. reporter: many care staff have what they have experienced in recent months. there is a fear that history is being rewritten. e th also anger that here at westminster, politicians knew long before the pdemic that they care sector was underfunded, overstrriched, and
ins. ros: next on outside source, let's talk about tiktok the popular video sharing app. we have two connected stores to look at. tiktok says it is quite a hong kong peer e o's government looks set to ban it. quitting hong kong is connected to the newit seclaw which gives the chinese authorities significant ne powers. it is an interesting decision. tiktok is chinese owned an american ceoou this appear to be an effort to put distance between thehi company in. if that is a message for the trump administration, it is not cuing through. >> with respect to chinese apps on people's cell phones, i can assure you, the united states will get in front of this. it is something we are looking at. >> would you recommend people download the app on their phones tonight, tenorrow, any cuy? >> only if you wanfoyour private ation in the hands of the chinese communist party. ros: china also appears spleased with tiktok.
here's the chinese foreign ministern the hong kong ements of the sty. >> [speaking foreign language] translator: we hope the relative parties will look at china's afright touard its own sovereignty and security in a fair, objective and rational manner and they will take a fair and rational approach to the sue of hg kong. don't selectively set barriers and don't politicize the issue. ros: d't politicize the issue, says china. itter, facebook and whatsapp have said they will not hand over any data to hong kong authorities, but all internet platforms are being told that if they do not take down information or opinion that hong kong, they could be fined and their employees could be imprisoned.here is the bbc techr james clayton. reporter: there is clearly nervousness and worry around whether this data, if push came to shove, whatever be sharp with it -- shared with the chinese government. nthey have a huge existential there are lots of people in the
west who are very nervous about dchina. having that connection with china is not particularly good for business if you are an international chinese tech company right now. ros: tiktok has seen phenomenal growth in the last three years. it how beenoaded more than 2 million times. in the last quarter, it generated the most downloads for any app ever.as we come of the t market, india, banded aloer with a 58 ohinese apps. that appears connected to the border clash with china and the gowen valley in which rs indian soldied. india's government is claiming that the app so using data illegally ead ey are a t to india's national security. now, tiktok is facing the prospectslo ong the u.s. as well, which is another huge market. there is hostility elsewhere too. an australian senator says tiktok mike to be a data collection service disguised as social media.
here is james clayton ain. reporter if you look at tiktok's business model, it is in countries around the world, and they want to have a big presence in th west, in europe, in the u.s. and of course i wanted to have a huge presence in india. inthan market now looks very difficult forns tiktok, ering it is banned. the u.s. is looking increasingly difficult. where will this end? if you work for tiktok, even if you are on tiktok rightow, it is a worrying time. because really, at any point w, if you look at what pompeo said, if you look at the fact that trump does not particularly like tiktok, you remember tt rally that tiktok has claimed was tagged by them signing up in droves when they had no intention of actually going. if you look at the potential therefore some of tiktok's biggest markets to be affected here, it is clearly a aery
worryingnd nervous time for tiktok. ros: let's bring in james live from washington, d.c. what did you make of the decision to pull out of hong kong? >>s is certainly a very remarkable move. some analysts see it as a pr stunt for tiktok. it is reported that hon kong is the company. small market for last year, as wete rep tiktok had out -- had only 150,000 users in hong kong which is relatively small, considering the population in hong kong is around 8 million. and also ts is only 1% othe apps, number of users even in india. at the same time, the company confirmed that its ster appma would accessible in hong kong. many critics are saying, in this
move, tiktok basically treated them noifrent, which is exactly what the national security law allegedly aims to do. s: i was mentioning that tiktok is chinese ownut do the chinese authoritieshiiew it as a cnese company? >> indeed. tiktok was founded in china, in beijing. and its parent company first introduced the video sharing platform, which is tiktok'sde sister, i guess, and it was a great success. afterwards, the company introduced tiktok to the u.s., india, japan, and many other countries. similar to another chinese company, t huawetok finds itself amidst these international controversies and subject to chinese influence as critics say.
as you mentioned, the sequence, e u.s. secretary of state pompeo suggested that washington is considering banning tiktok because it might follow chinese governments rules to turn users data. d but beijing s would not do so. the hon if you look kong national security law, tiktok is a registered company in hong kong. it would need to comply to the law to turn it into das requested by the hong kong government. ros: before i let you go, i want to be clear, is there any evidence that tiktok and the chinese authorities worked together, coordinate together, in any way, cooperate together? he>> so far, is no clear evidence of that. and it will be interesting tol see on what le grounds the u.s. will approach, if it were two tiktok in the u.s. it is a strategy that tiktok has pursued a long time to distance itself from china. it does not seem to be working
right now. but it will be interesting to see how other countries will react to tha ros: ok. thank you very much. in a few minutes on "outside source." we will turn our attention to melbourne. 5 million people who live there are now beginning a new six week lockdown aft a surge and covid-19 cases. ♪ ro first minister nicola sturgeon says she hopes to move scotland into the next phase of leaving lockdown, meang restrictio will be eased over the restf the month. the scottish government is still not decidewhether to ease visitors from outse the u.k. nicola sturgeon pointed to the experience of other countries. >> allif of this iscult for every country in terms of tourism, in terms of domestic economies. but what will be even more damang is if we act now in a way that three weeks from now,
or a month from now, or three months from now, has us having to do. none of us can rule this out. we are trying to avoid it if possible because what would be most damaging is if, not too long from now, we are having to do what melbourne has done, what to belgrade has done, what parts of catalonia are doing for large part -- and large parts of florida are doing. it is putting everything into lockdown again. ♪ ro we are he in the bbc newsroom. our lead story is the brazilian president has tested positive for the coronavirus. british care homes have reacted furiously to boris johnson's claim that toany did not really follow coronavirus procedures. let's pick up on the main story from bbc world service. w.h.o. says latin america and
the european -- and the caribbean account for a lot of fses are that mak the center of the pandemic.ha there are more100,000 new cases reported every day in that area. brazil is the worst affected. thndisease is spreading countries like argentina, bolivia and peru. russia has arrested a well-known former journalist. the authorities allege he committed treason byfiupplying clas information to an unnamed nato country. ume arm says i can r sales to saudi arabia after ministers decided the country was not delibeintely violating rnational law in the conflict in yemen. involving saudi airstrikes were isolated incidents and we had had a genuine intent of complying with interna humanitarian law. campaign called the assessmentmo lly bankrupt. that is from the bc arabic. -- b arabic. melbourne is back in lock swn because ofke in covid
cases. in the past 24 hours, it has recorded almost 200 cases, the highest recorded daily total. as a consequence for the next six weeks, the 5 o llion people ve in melbourne can only leave their homes for essential purposes. that means work, school, food shopping, and caregiving. here is victoria state premier on the decision. >> stay-at-home means just that. not stay at your holiday home. not stay at your second home. your principal place of residence is where you must be.t exor the four reasons to leave your home. this is, i know, further then we went last time. but we are in many respects, inu a more preca challenging, and potentially tragic position now than we were some months ago. ros: let me show you this video from before the lockdown came into effect. this was just before midnighn melbourne. there wa a huge queue at this cosco supermarket ad people trie to stock up on supplies. there are stricter rules for
localized outbreaks within melbourne. this apartment block is one of nine where residents are banned one health official justified the move, calling the building a vertical cruise ship. residents say they were not given any notice before the lockdown came into effect and have been struggling to get food delivered. g a lot of people are sayng her come on, how did you not have anything in your pantry? let's not forget, the people living in these towers are vulnerab. some of us live paycheck-to-paycheck. weannot go out and do a massive sp or stock up on pantry items like everyone else can. yeah. it is not really for anyone to judge our schedule. so if we are being locked down, our human rights are -- our basic human rights are being stripped from us. the least they could have done is done this in a more organized
manner. it is not acceptable for children and babies to be waiting 48 hours to get some bread, milk, nappies, formula. things they needas it wust terrible. in the police do not have the skills to be dealing with this situation. i totally believe this is classism. s itiled as public health. because we are talkingbout the marginalized members of our society having their basic human rights stripped. it is absolutelassist. i will give you an example. absolutely cannot believe that premie w andrewsould lockdown a rise,illion dollar sky for example, in southbank, or s just across theet in travel and core and treat those residents the sameay. he would not do it. ros: this lockdown only affects lbourne and one other area. but the whole of itha victori been sealed off from its neighbors. it is bordered with suit -- it's border has been shut down since that means 59 ground crossings
four major highways, and two waterways are being monitored by police troops and drones. south australia has also closed its border. only those deemed essential workers are beingme allowed to n from victoria. if they do, they will haveoro quarantine4 days. the context here is australia has done well it -- has done relatively well. it has over eight point 5000 -- eight and a half thousand cases. almost all of its new cases are in victoriro you can seethis graph the new cases are accelerating in past their previous peak. also concern is 90% of cases are coming from within the community. those cases in australia were fromravelers arriving from overseas initially. that is changing. it is thought the surge in cases is more likely to be cacnected to bs of hotel quarantines. one important detail is mor than 20,000 people have gone through a 14 day isolation and
hotels in victoria after arriving in the state. this was one of the hotels in queson. one investigation points to the virus spreading from security guards working at them to their families. we have seen several international reports like this one in the times of london suggesng some security contractors were having sex with guests and families were allowed to go between rooms, but were not -- but we are not able to confirm those claims. already in the community.s meat processing plants have been infection hotspots. here is a report saying this wa linked to morthan 100 cases, and that was back in may. whatever the reasons, case numbers are definitelyoing up. and so is the pressure on the state governments. this article is scathing. it says unlike other scandal i it affecting hundreds of thousands of people, more than 310,000 to be precise.
esso, deng situation in victoria. you can get more details all of that through the bbc news website which you will get at bbc.com/news. see you soon. ♪ narrator: funding for this presentation of this program is provided by... language specialists teaching spish, french and more. raymond james. the freeman foundation. s also provided by, by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. and by contributions to this pbs station from thviewers like you. k you.
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