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>> also the u.s. president says that democratic party has reached an historic agreement on economic reforms work neary -- worth nearly $2 trillion. pres. biden: it's a framework that will create millions of jobs, while the economy and invest in our nation. >> the deal is dubbed build back better. ♪ ♪ >> let's start with the gro row over u.k. fishing rights. u.k. government spokesman said the french investor will be summoned to the foreign office. here's the latest statement from the government ministry. the actions are unjustified and new not appear to be compatible with the trade and cooperation
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agreement or at law. we regret the confrontational language that has been consistently used and the next step the foreign secretary has instructed minister morton to summon the french president. the flashpoint is this reddish vessel, last night it was detained by french authorities and taken to a port. france said it seized it because it was operating in its waters without a fishing license. another vessel was also fined. >> i think it is important to say, obviously, that it is disappointing. we as our country fulfilled all our obligations under the tca, but at the same time, cross government, discussions will continue. the commissioner will work with his counterparts in the french administration. >> tensions have been simmering after u.k. resisted the request
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to can tin you fishing in -- setting out rules who can fish in the english channel and who cannot. this is where they want to fish, 6-12 nautical miles off britain's shores. let's hear from two french fishermen. >> the goal is to recover the rights that we had. whenhe brexit deal was made, the french had to keep their fishing rights, so we would like to keep our fishing rights and not lose them like the british are forcing us to do. >> it's all talk. some things were said, and that's it. at the moment we are not leaving. we don't know if we will have a license or not. we are at a standstill. >> the latest row came to head on tuesday when the u.k. government said it would allow a
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handful of small french boats to fish in u.k. waters. on wednesday paris threatened to block fishing boats and increase taxes on goods. disproportionate, we will defend our rights, our fishermen and our coastline. the french secretary of state repeated the warning. >> the first measures we will apply from the beginning of next week's could be completedf there are no gestures from britain because our objective is not to impose these measures, it is to get the licenses. >> as britain does not respect rights concerning our fishermen, we will strictly limit the docking in french ports of reddish marine products. we will carry out systemic custom checks and put in place
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checks of other products headed in the direction of the united kingdom next week, reinforcing our cuent procedures on border checks. >> this vessel was seized and taken. france saidhe trawler was found to be fishing in a bay without the proper licenses. the u.k. has threatened to retaliate. here's the u.k. environmental secretary. >> it is very disappointing to secomments that came from france yesterday. we believe these are disappointing and disproportionate and not what we would expect from a close ally and partner. the measures being threatened do not appear to be compatible with the trade and cooperation agreement or wider international law and of carried through will be met with an appropriate and calibrated response. i am aware of reports of enforcement activity being undertaken by the french authorities and in respect of two vessels. we are looking into these
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matters urgently. that was the view from the u.k.. here's the french prime minister for the view there. >> i would like nothing more for this to take place. we are always open for discussion, morning, noon, and night. at the same time, i want to say to the british government that will ensure our interests and our word are respect. >> today the captain of the detained vessel was taken in for questioning. you can see him here in the back of the police car wearing a red jacket. he was later released. the company that owns the boat said in a statement, the fishing activity is entirely legal. it appears our vessel is not -- is now in the ongoing dispute over the ongoing fishing climate. let's talk to adam's age the
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paris correspondent. give us a viewpoint of how this is being viewed in france right now by the french government. it looks like things have really started to escalate. adam: i think from the gornment's point of view it has been escalating since the end of december, beginning of january. they say they are expecting britain to approve all the applications for fishing licenses from french fishermen within two weeks. and that nine months later about half of those applications haven't been approved. so they ar angry and irritation has been growing steily since then and has now boiled over. >> so what happens now? the french ambassador will be called. what do the french do in response to that? >> if there are no more licenses approved, that is to say there is a ban on british boats
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landing their catches in france, stringent customs checks on lorries entering and leang france from britain, which will disrupt trade and cause delays in calais and other ports. the say if that doesn't work, the second raft of measures, which they haven't detail, concerning the energy supply and the channel islands, they haven't said what they want to do about that. i don't think they are going to cut their electricity but there may be hikes or reducing it or something around that. where it goes after that, i don't think anyone knows. >> what is your feeling about how far you think the french are willing to go? >> my feeling is that both sides, and certainly the french, don't want to get into a trade war with britain over this. the french all the more so because there is no sign of an appetite in the european union
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on the hole for a trade war at this time. they find themselves slightly out on a limb. i don't think britain wants to get into a trade war with france and the ee you either. the danger with this is that once you start on th spiral, it can get out of control and it can be difficult to back down without losing face. so i think the situation at the moment is that both sides would like the other one to make a concession and then to be able to pullback the troops as it were, so long as they are not the first to do so. >> adam sage, paris correspondent for the times, thank you. ♪ >> big news in the world of tech, after months of growing criticism about its business practices, facebook a nail -- unveils a new name, meta.
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mark zuckerberg made the announcement on thursday. >> it's time for us to adopt a new company brand to encompass everything that do. to reflect who we are and what we hope to build. i'm proud to announce that starting today, our company is now meta. our mission remains the same. it's still about bringing people together. our apps and their brands, they are not changing. we are still the company that designs technology around people. >> the co-founder of elevation partners and former advisor to mark zuckerberg. i asked him what he made of the new name. >> i think it's ridiculous. i think facebook is trying to change the subject and they are trying to create a new corporate structure that will protect mark zuckerberg from liability for all the harms his company has
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done over the last 10 years. and it's not going to work, and we should all just simply recognize that the name can change, but the facts don't. this company has done a great deal of harm and it should be held accountable for all. >> you don't tnk it is going to detoxify the brand at all, moving forward with a new name? >> if anything, i think it will make people laugh at it. the virtual reality experience is nowhere near ready to be the transformational experience they are talking about. the vision they have for it is truly dystopian. truly all about tracking us through every aspect our lives in order to manipulate human behavior. that is incredibly unhealthy for democracy, it's unhealhy for public health. the whole thing is really disturbing. >> you are not holding back at all, are you? if you were advising mark zuckerberg, what would you say to him? >> very simple, the business model has to change.
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the problem is not social media. social media has so many good aspects. but this notion of collecting data on everything in society and converting it into models that allow you to predict and manipulate human behavior, and then creating a global network of 3 billion people with no barriers and no protections, that has brought all of these really dangerous ideas that normally just exist at the fringes of society, it has brought them all into the mainstream. you can see this in the united states, the united kingdom, around the world. facebook has been at the heart of undermining the response to the pandemic, at the heart of undermining democracy. it has been taking away the human autonomy of half the world's people. >> is it a case of, we need more regulation? >> we need safety, because these products, it's the whole tech industries culture, we need something like the food and drug
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administration to decide which products are available to go to market and under which circumstances. we need privacy. we need to end this thing where corporations are allowed to use data to manipulate human behavior. that's just not fair. we need new competition laws to update antitrust from the 21st century. governments around the world have an oportunity to make the changes that are right for their country. these companies automate everything, so if each country does their own thing, in aggregate it can't be ptective of everyone. >> so how do companies like facebook make their money then? >> facebook made money before adopting this business model in 2013. it would make a lot less money, but this is the trade-off between democracy, public health, and the rights of all citizens versus the prophets of one company. it doesn't seem to be about
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prioritizing facebook's profits at all. >> so you think today was a public relations disaster? >> i don't know if it is a disaster, but all i know is that it is aningless. >> the company is now known as meta. in washington, congress is looking at whether the world was misled about climate change. we take a closer look. there are lockdown restrictions in moscow now, new ones that trying to tackle record surgeon covid debts and infections in russia. reporter: i think it is accommodation of issues. on the one hand, many russians have a fatalistic attitude to life. that is affecting things. also, many russians simply don't believe what the authorities
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tell them. there's a lot of distrust of -- toward the authorities. even when the prime minister or the president of russia is on television and says, look, you need to get yourselves vaccinated, vaccination save lives, it will protect you and your loved ones. many people just ignore that. i don't believe it all of these issues are affecting the pace of vaccination in russia. until the authorities can find a way of getting people out to get those vaccinations to increase the number of people who are protected, then this is going to remain a big problem. ♪ >> this is outside source, live from the bbc news room. after france detains a british trawler, the u.k. summons the french ambassador in a growing row over post brexit fishing rights.
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let's turn now to washington, where president biden says his democratic party has reached a framework agreement on economic reforms worth nearly $2 trillion. the plan sets out investment in social care, affordable health, and efforts to combat climate change. here is the u.s. president. pres. biden: it's a framework that will create millions of jobs, grow the economy, invest in our nation and our people, turn the climate crisis into an opportunity, put us on track to win the economic competition for the 21st century against china and every other major company in the world. it is fiscally responsible, it is fully paid for. 17 nobel prize winners in economics have said it will lower the inflationary pressures on the economy. >> we spoke about how president biden reached this agreement. >> president biden and democrats
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on capitol hill have been working with the divides of their own party over the past couple of weeks, between progressive and moderate democrats. like president biden said, neither side really got everything they wanted in this deal. however, it is unclear what regressive house lawmakers, like alexandria ocasio-coez are going to do with this bill. there is obviously still some work to be done, but you have establishment democrats pushing these progressives to accept this bill and say, look, we can focus on what we didn't get done in this legislation for another time, and president -- form and president -- formative present -- former president obama putting out a statement asking progressives to accept this for the time being, saying it's the best chance the party has to get their reforms passed through congress. >> explained two beers, why does it matter? obviously $2 trillion is a lot
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of money and a lot of things are potentially down the road in the pipeline for this money to be spent on. >> this piecef legislation matters because back in the summer when we saw the bipartisan infrastructure package passed through the senate, there were number of progressive lawmakers in the house saying, wait a minute, we want to have a separate economic spending plan. it was originally $3.5 trillion passed alongside the infrastructure plan. the problem is, you had moderate mocrats joe manchin and kyrsten sinema sg we don't want this much, we want to start cutting. as a result, you had a number of key progressive and in some cases bipartisan priorities cut from this package for the sake of getting it down to lower price point. that includes paid family leave, for example. that is a major portion that has been cut. can see in the future paid
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family lea as well as some other initiatives being worked on separately, but it is unclear how these progressives are going to accept that. i don't think they are very happy at this point. >> let's stay in washington. top executives of major western oil companies are testifying in front of congress for the first time. they are accused of misleading the public about climate change. hearing is being held the house of representatives oversight committee and six oil industry leaders are testifying. they are the ceos of exxon, chevron, and bp america. the president of shell and the heads of lobby firms american petroleum institute and u.s. chamber of commerce. the chairwoman opened the hearing. >> after four decades of deception and delay, it is time for the fossil fuel industry to finally change its ways. thousands of companies have
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already recognized the imminent threat of climate change. and they are working with community leaders and scientists ring down emissions. it's time for big oil to finally join the rest of us in this fight. >> the timing of the hearing is significant. on sunday, over 120 leaders will meet in glasgow for major climate summit called cop 26. chairwoman m asked executives to make a pe to commit not to spend money opposing efforts to tackle climate change. cpl bp america responded. >> what i would say is we have stopped all reputational advertising at bp. >> i know that you have taken steps in the right direction, i heard that in your ttimony, thank you. will you take the pledge, yes or no? >> what we are pledging to do is advocate for low carbon policies that do in fact take the company in the world to net zero.
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that is the pledge unwilling to commit to. >> i'm asking if you will stop spending money, either directly or indirectly, to oppose efforts to reduce emissions and address climate change. to stop spending money. i take that you don't want to take the pledge, all right. >> as you might expect, hearing is v much divided along party lines. here is republican congressman ralph norman. >> issues are impacting everyday americans in an overly ambitious and unrealistic climate agenda. the people of south carolina did not send me to washington to bankrupt our country. even the phrase build back better these to be changed to
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bankrupt america better. spending hard-working taxpayers money on liberal pipedreams. >> the oil firms insisted they want to shift from selling fossil fuels to renewables but environmentalist accused them of greenwashing and say most of the effort is still on extracting fossil fuels. here is democratic congressman ro khanna. >> are you embarrassed that your production is going up while european counterparts are going down? >> demand for energy is going up in the world. >> so you are not embarrassed. i'm just asking an open question, it's not a gotcha question. do you commit to anything matching your european counterparts should try to bring the actual demand of oil production down? >> with all due respect, i'm very proud of our company and what we do. >> our correspondent has been
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following the hearing. reporter: you offered a pretty good summary of what has been happening on capitol hill all throughout the day when it comes to this hearing. of course democrats are really pushing for oil exetives to admit that in fact, they were misleading people in america and around the world about the harmful effects of fossil fuels on the environment, that in fact they did have more knowledge than they claimed to have said they did. from the point of view of the oil executives, what they are saying is that anything we have said in the past was using the kind of information that we had at that time. research evolves, science evolves, and we have evolved with that science, and now we are committing ourselves to try and reduce our greenhouse gas emissions, recognizing what we can do and that we play a role in doing that. >> how significant is all this? reporter: i think that's very
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important. this is the first time we are seeing these oil execs making their way to capit hill and testifying under oath. democrats were billing this has something that was going to be, this was history in the making and would often refer back to the famous hearing in which the executives of big tobacco went and testified on capitol hill. i think most people can remember the photo of those seveneaders of big tobacco who all stood with the right hand raised as if taking oath -- as they were taking oath on capitol hill. democrats actually went on to make mention of that hearing several times. they were hoping this would have that same kind of impact. but it really didn't, for a few reasons. one is just shared visuals.
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you and i know a lot about shared vuals because we work in television. that kind of stark image that we saw back in the 1990's, that just didn't exist. u also didn't have a lot of bipartisan support. >> is the here in the u.k. has a special new resident, and endangered black rhino. he was born at the flamingo land resort on sunday. here he is taking his very first steps. zookeepers say they are pleased with his progress. he is the very first black rhino to be born in europe this year. to put it into perspective, there are just 3000 black rhinos left in the world so this is a very important event. a quick reminder of our top story, the latest escalation in the dispute between britain and
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france over fishing rights. the french ambassador has been summoned to the foreign office in london to receive the diplomatic process. you can tweet me and also go on to our website for the latest on all the stories we areatching here on outside source. goodbye for now. ♪ narrator: funding for this presentation of this program is provided by... narrator: financial services firm, raymond james. man: bdo. accountants and advisors. narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. and by contributions to this pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. ♪ ♪
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