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♪ >> good evening. on the newshour tonight, a tense moment. the united nations secured a council convened to discuss ukraine as tens of thousands of russian troops remain positioned along its border. then, an alarming launch. the united states calls for direct negotiation with north korea over its weapons programs following a test of a missile that could reach warm. and for nice. unpredictable weather patterns worsened by climate change threaten the long-standing traditions of outdoor hockey and skating. >> the biggest thing that causes us anxiety every year is the weather conditions. have had 40 below. we have had 40 above. it has been incredibly
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>> i'm stephanie sy with newshour west. we will return to the full program after the latest headlines. the standoff between russia and the west over ukraine sparked a stormy debate today at the united nations. russia accused the u.s. of bringing nazis to power in key out of. the added states said it is moscow that is the aggressive. in the united nations security council today, a fractious discussion over the crisis in ukraine. russia cruised the u.s., which called the meeting, of inciting panic and attempted to shut it down. >> the open format for discussion posed by e.s. is making this a classic example of megaphone diplomacy. >> but the meeting continued with russia in the hot seat. the u.s. pushed the kremlin to de-escalate its military buildup along its border with ukraine. >> this is the largest, hear me
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clearly, mobilization of troops in europe in decades. as we speak, russia is sending even more forces and arms joined them should >> diplomats from around the world urged russia to stand down or face consequences. >> the best case scenario, the scale of russian forces assembled on three sides of ukraine is deeply destabilizing. in the worst case, it is preparation for a military invasion of a sovereign country. >> but the russian envoy again denied plans to attack ukraine, charging the u.s. with x collating -- with escalating tensions. >> discussions of threat of war is provocative in itself. we were almost calling for this. you want it to happen. >> the u.s. and its nato allies have rejected moscow's demands nato pullback troops from eastern europe and ban ukraine from joining the alliance. ukrainian officials today said
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they had the right to decide their own treaties and alliances. at the white house, president biden called the security council meeting a critical step against russia's military posture. >> we continue to urge diplomacy as the best way forward. but with russia continuing its buildup of its forces around ukraine, we are ready no matter what happens. >> for weeks, russia has massed more than 100,000 troops along ukraine's borders and has begun joint military drills in neighboring belarus. in ukraine's east, ukrainian forces continue military drills. meanwhile, volunteers in kiev have begun self-defense training. >> amid the russian troop buildup, tonight, the state department ordered for me of u.s. government employees to leave belarus and warned americans against traveling there. the unit is based -- the united states called for north korea to
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stop firing missiles after its most powerful weapons tested since 2017. on sunday, pyongyang launched a mitchell that could reach warm. a u.s. territory some 2100 miles from with korea. we'll return to this after the news summary. the united arab emirates said it intercepted a missile today that was fired from rebels in yemen. it was the third attack in three weeks. you are you defense dio showed warplanes destroying the missile launcher afterward. the rebels claim suess anyway. uae forces are fighting and backed by iran. on the pandemic, the u.s. food and drug administration gave full approval to moderna vaccine against covid-19. it has been administered so far under an emergency authorization. visors vaccine won full approval last august. britain's prime minister boris johnson has apologizedgain for office parties during the covid locked down in 20 20.
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an investigation today found what it called failures of leadership and judgment. johnson told the house of commons he accepts the findings and he said quote, i get it and i will fix it. >> it is not enough to say sorry. this is a moment we must look at ourselves in the mirror and we must learn. that is why we are making changes now the way downing street and the cabinet office run. >> i the same time, the prime minister again dismissed calls to step down. northern europe is reeling after powerful winter storms killed at least four people and did widespread damage over the weekend. winds of 100 miles per hour and driving rain lasted scotland and the scandinavian countries toppling trees and destroying homes. thousands were still without electricity today. back in this country, new england and parts of the
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northeast spent another day digging out from a winter blizzard should in the boston suburbs, temperatures rose slightly as plows and shufflers returned to streets. some parts of massachusetts home within two and a half feet of snow. a federal judge in georgia rejected a hate crimes agreement in the ahmaud arbery killing last year. travis mcmichael and his father are doing life in state prison for chasing and murdering ahmaud arbery. the hate crimes deal would send them to federal prison where conditions are better for 30 years. ahmaud arbery's parents denounced the agreement. >> we want 100% justice. not know half justice. you have got to think. if an african-american man would've done that to a white man like that, they would have killed us on the spot. we want 100% justice. >> the mcmichaels have until friday to decide their next move. a third man convicted in the murder is not party to the plea agreement.
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at least six historically black university scrambled to deal with the bomb threats today for the second time this month. several of the schools locked down their campuses for a time. no bombs have been found. federal prisons nationwide were on lockdown today after two inmates were killed and two others injured during a gang altercation at a prison in beaumont, texas. it involved members of the street gang ms 13. fears of violence and retaliation prompted lockdowns at 120 prisons across the u.s. california is moving to dismantle its death row. the nation's largest, within two years. it is located at san quentin state prison. governor gavin newsom outlined plans to transfer condemned inmates to other spots -- to other sites and merge them into the general prison population. andwillie o'ree, the first black player in the nationality league will receive the congressional medal of
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honor. he broke the color barrier and played two seasons with the boston bruins. he still serves as a league and vested her -- a leak ambassador for diversity. spotify agrees to advisory's to podcast to combat covid-19 misinformation. nurses nationwide continue to battle with the surge of covid patients paired after high vr car bed barda discusses portraying desi arnaz in being the ricardo's. plus much more. >> this is the pbs newshour. from w eta studios in washington and in the west from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. >> over the weekend, north korea tested a missile that flies so far it could have reached the u.s. territory of guam in the south pacific. it is north korea's longest range test since 2017 and seventh such test this month. the most launched so closely
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together in the 10 years of kim jong-un's rule. >> this weekend's test was an intermediate range ballistic missile. north korean media showed footage of that launching and entering space. officials believe the range is more than 2000 miles. this test is the most aggressive step in series of moves that began in september including multiple short-range missile tests in the last few weeks. joan's first visit to a missions factory in years and repeated tests of missiles designed to improve survivability such as trained launched a listing missiles. many of these tests rake un security council resolutions but none so far have broken kim's 2017 promise not to test a nuclear device or international ballistic missile. north koreans worn figure missiles. what is the implication for u.s. policy?
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get two views. a senior fellow at the center for democracy and was the national security director for defense during the trumpet administration. jenny town is a senior fellow at the stimson center and the director of the analysis site, 38 north. welcome back to the newshour. anthony, let me start with you. why do you believe now for this intermediate range test? >> tim is looking to test and make sure these missiles work. there is a technical reason and a political reason. they have been testing missiles since september 2021. there is no consequences for that. only one set of sanctions that came earlier this month. kim may have thought the missile tests are ok for the administration. >> do think this is about a lack of consequences or north korea doing what it said it would a year ago, which is going through a list of tests including this one? >> i think there are domestic
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underpinnings. kim jong-un set these goals for the economy and the missile program. economic goals are not being met. military side is one area in which they can control and get some successes against the plan ahead of some big political meetings coming up. >> i asked a senior administration official yesterday whether they have the right policy and they said we believe we have the right approach: for talks without preconditions. is that the right approach? >> we need to do that certainly have talks without preconditions is the right message should it was the wrong message after a long range missile test, an intermediate range missile test. bidens policy in 2021 was engagement only. we know that does not work. now he needs to combine engagement and pressure and he needs to rebuild the diplomatic pressure. last week, secretary blinken talked to his chinese counterpart. north korean missile launches
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was not mentioned. that is an unforced error by the administration should >> increased pressure? >> i think there is a role for sanctions here but certainly pressure is not going to change north korea's calculus. it is clear they are moving forward with our technical capabilities and they are willing to accept the political consequences that come with it. especially right now when china and russia are n in agreement these measures rise to the level of unified international response, i think it calls for how do we get back to negotiations? how do we get back to a place and create incentives for north korea to make different decisions? weaning on the pressure is only continuing this track of development. >> incentives? >> we know the incentive track does not lead to negotiations. that is with a history tells us. north korea response to pressure. china response to pressure when
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the u.s. sanctions chinese banks, chinese individuals, chinese companies, russian banks, russian individuals. the sanctions the biden administration put in place earlier this month was interesting because it targeted individuals in russia and china. we know north korea response to pressure. they did it for the trump administration. they did it for the bush administration. that leads to negotiations. >> haven't we seen this before? north korea escalating in order not only to improve its weapons buto try to get concessions? >> you have to look at the bigger picture in terms of the more pressure we applied in 2017, the more north korea doubled down on its development. it did not bring them to the table. they went to the end and declared victory first. we need to think more about the message we are sending on the diplomatic side and remembering there is a consequence for failed diplomacy on the north
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korean side and be ready to come up with more concrete proposals not just an open call for negotiations >> during the trump administration, you tried something different. you tried high level direct diplomacy between kim and president trump. there were letters. there were statements. there was a we fell in love from president trump. it did not work. why not? >> the pressure was relieved. north korea continued their activities. they continued proliferation. they continued these prohibited programs and the pressure wind. i agree with jenny the bottom line is we had maximum pressure. that brought kim back to the table. he became -- he ran out the clock as he and his father and his grandfather has done before. the issue here is how do you combine engagement and pressure? it is the real question here. biden tried engagement only in 2021. that does not work. trump tried early on just
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pressure. how do we combine the two for a better policy? > does the international community need to resign itself to a nuclear north korea? >> the north koreans have agreed to denuclearization as recently as 2018. the question is, what is that expectation? it is not going to happen overnight. it will come at a cost. the longer it takes to come up with the first step down a denuclearizati path means the price is going to get higher every time. there are security reasons why they are doing this. there are coercive reasons should i would disagree it was pressure that brought north korea back to the table in 2018 should a more diplomatic opening from the south koreans that there was actual incentives on the table for them to take up and created a different opportunity for them to change course. >> north korea is drawing -- is going through a checklist we discussed that it published last year. on that list is a larger capacity nuclear warhead and a
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9000 mile range missile do you fear tse tests are next? >> i think those are coming. i think he has a list he is going through. if you look at the reactions to the seven rounds of tests in january, i think he is getting the message there are very little consequences. >> do you fear this is only going to escalate further toward nuclear tests and a bigger warhead test? >> north korea has been very cautious so far over the past couple of years to stay below that threshold knowing what we saw in 2017 was icbm tests, nuclear test did unify international community against them. they have been careful to sequenced this in a way to really ensure they still have some buffer especially while the country is still under lockdown and the domestic situation is in crisis. >> thank you very much. >> thank you.
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♪ >> the popular audio streaming service spotify has come under fire for hosting the podcaster joe rogan who has spread covid misinformation to millions. after two high-profile musicians took their music off spotify in protest, the platform has announced reforms. >> the joe rogan experience is spotify's most popular podcast, reaching at least 10 million people per show. that is far more than the most popular table -- cable tv hosts. while the standup comic and former reality tv star often talks with mainstream voices like astrophysicist nilda grass tyson or writer michael pollan, he has also lent his ear to a slew of covid conspiracy
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spreaders. rogan himself has bn at least some doubt about the effectiveness of the covid vaccines. >> if you're 21 years old and you say to me, should i get vaccinated? ago, no. >> after 200 medical professionals write a letter to spotify criticizing his work, neil young and john picked and joni mitchell pulled their music off spotify to protest rogan. last night on instagram, rogan offered something of a mayor caldwell saying he will try to do better. >> i'm not a doctor. i am a person who sits down and talk to people it has conversations with them. do i get things wrong? absolutely. spotify itself while not mentioning rogan directly said it will link any podcast dealing with the pandemic to reliable sources of information. so how should a company or society more broadly deal with controversial and what many would argue is harmful information? for more, i am joined by a professor in the school of journalism at the university of
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texas and author of the reality game, how the next wave of technology will break the truth. great to have you on the newshour. as we just heard, in his defense, joe rogan just says i am just talking to a plethora of voices. and he pointed out he has talked with other people who are supportive of vaccines. all of whom have beeon the newshour. he is hearing from a diversity of voices and what is the problem. what do you make of that argument? >> joe rogan tends to cast himself as a man of the people. he certainly does this thing where he says i speak to everybody. i want to appeal to people who are critical thinkers and who are open-minded. out of the issue here is while he does host reason to voices on his podcast, he also hosts extremists and he hosts people who spread misinformation. that misinformation can be very
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harmful particularly during a pandemic when you have millions of people listening to it taking they are getting open-minded content or critical content when they are getting quite skewed and problematic content that can lead to people not getting vaccinated and death. >> seems like spotify as youtube and facebook and twitter have all found there is money to be made in misinformation and disinformation and the outrage it sparks. >> that is exactly true. in my book, i talk about this concept of manufacturing consensus. creating the illusion of popularity for content through these mechanisms like algorithms on social media that prioritize content that is more sensational or provokes outrage or does what we call rage farming in the place of actually hosting scientific content or good quality content that helps people to understand what is going on from experts. >> what spotify has said in response to this is if you listen to any podcast on our
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platform that touch on the pandemic in any way, we will link you to smart sound fact checked information. what do you make of their reacon? >> i think it is not nearly enough. i am not advocating for censorship. i'm not advocating for spotify to kick joe rogan off their platform but what i do think is spotify gives joe rogan undue attention from millions of people. you go on spotify, you will see joe rogan's podcast often times right there front and center. often times the algorithms will boost it because it is more popular than other more quality podcasts. spotify has to do more through it algorithms to make sure this contt is not reaching more people than scientific content or people within the medical establishment who understand this in scientific terms. >> there are people who are calling for spotify to kick him off. it seems like that is what neil
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young was arguing. if rogan were kicked off spotify, wouldn't he take his colossal audience somewhere else and be in some ways outside of the checks and balances however me. as you put it that spotify is providin? >> with traditional media especially radio and tv, troops like the fcc are regulating what people can say and do. that is not censorship. that is working to protect people in a democratic society. you can ask howard stern what it looks like to be checked by the fcc. if joe rogan were to go to a more popular radio station, he would be regulated or held in check in some form. spotify gives him a massive platform. we are talking over 10 million people reached during his episodes. >> moving beyond joe rogan and spotify, how does a society deal with this issue when you have
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got misinformation and disinformation out there? it is a lucrative and everyone is carrying around of these broadcast devices in our pockets. how do we reckon with that? >> one of the things to do is to not respond with anger when you see people posting things that are deliberately provocative. particularly when it is influencers or people who have a reason to get more attention on social media. the texas gop spread some content that tied waiting in one -- in line for covid to waiting in line for elections. one of the things people can do is not engage. there are also ways of responding with counter speech to issues that are problematic and attempting to have civil conversations with other folks rather than fearing into an aggravated or hateful conversation. >> thank you so much for being
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here. >> thank you for having me. ♪ >> the pandemic continues to take a heavy toll. the united states averaging more than 2500 deaths per day. in mississippi where 50% of the population is fully vaccinated, hospitalizations have soared. intensive care beds are scarce. there are simply not enough nurses on hand. lisa has the story. >> kelly comebest is the nurse manager. take us right into the er. what does it look and feel like right now? >> today is a great example. we are congested and clogged up
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here lots of patients are admitted that should be upstairs and inside the hospital and are still staying in the er. it slows everything down and it can be chaotic. >> what does that mean? exactly how long are these patients who are waiting for a bed somewhere else, how long are they in the er? >> we are averaging about 24 to 36 hours. we have some longer. we are the exception in mississippi appeared most of the hospitals in mississippi have a several day weight to get their patients out of the er. >> that is astounding to hear you are on the good side of that with a day or a day and a half wait. help our viewers understand what is going on. can you talk about your staff shortage and where you are? how shortstaffed are you? >> we have multiple closed units at all of our campuses. multiple closed icu beds. we need staff. i have less than half of my allotted full-time positions
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filled. i have contract staff filling in a good portion of what is missing. i am working with about 75% of my shifts covered. that is with forced overtime on pretty much everybody. we are working very short. we are taking care of more patients for longer hours than we should should it is a very bad scenario. >> what about vaccination rates? in mississippi is among the three states with the lowest vaccination rates right now. what does that mean in your emergency room? how is that affecting you? >> it keeps our patient visits up. the overall numbers of patients that are sick is higher. the number of patients that are positive as higher. it is frustrating because you could have less ill patients to take care of or fewer of them and you don't. >> i hope that this round of covid is picking for you guys soon at least. >> it is honestly -- the covid
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is not bad. >> that is so interesting. it is a staffing issue. it is not a covid issue. >> it is absolutely a staffing issue. covid is very mild. there are some illnesses and some deaths and it is terrible and we are going to see the more detriment was done because of staff shortages then what covid is doing right now. in the summer, it was a different story. this right now is very much a staffing crisis. patients are doing worse because of a lack of staff. >> had happened to be a proud daughter of a retired nurse -- i happen to be a proud daughter of a retired nurse. that is one reason i know that to be a good nurse, you have to have tough skin. i hear that in your voice. you have to have a particular inner strength. i want to ask you, how is that strength holding up against all of this for yourself and for
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your fellow nurses? >> it is getting thin. it gets thinner, the inner strength gets very shallow. there is less and less to pull from. it requires your team to get tighter and be more cohesive. the worst part of it his stress level that comes with not being able to give as good of care as you want to be able to give. the nurses i work with that are the best are the ones that are really concerned about their quality of what they do. those are the ones that take the biggest emotional toll whenever they cannot do everything they want to do. we still give as good of care as we physically can. in most days, it is as good as it will get anyway we base ourselves on quality. whenever you route of people and you run out of situations and time, the resources are not there to do things. your quality can take a hit. that emotionally hits the best
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of them the hardest. >> this is a question of nurses staying and where they stay. want to wrap up by asking you, why do you stay? >> i was born here. my parents are here appeared my in-laws are here. i kids go to school here. this is my community. this is where i'm from. both my parents are products of this town. this is where i get my life from. this is what i'm giving back to. that is why i am still here is for the other people that are here because life would be easier for me making 30 or 40 times my net. it would make my personal life a little bit easier. it is not the right thing to do. >> i know our viewers are glad that you were here with us today. from the emergency room, the nurse manager. thank you so much. >> thank you. ♪
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>> with the start of the 2022 beijing lipid games just days away, there is a renewed attention around the relationship between climate change and winter sports. as the planet warms, beloved of past times that rely on the snow and ice face a growing threat. among them, outdoor skating. john yang reports. >> as the sun rises over south minneapolis, the sounds of hockey echo through the biting cold. skates slicing through the ice. sticks slapping for the opening face-off. talks ringing off the boards. on this day, the lake is the gathering spot not for beachgoers or boaters but for the rink rats of the u.s. hockey championships. the two weekend event draws thousands of players from around
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the world to minnesota, the self-proclaimed state of hockey where outdoor skating is practically a way of life. >> it is something that is embedded with us in this area. and in our lives especially if you experience it wants, you do not want to stop. >> i cannot feel my toes, my hands paid i don't know what is happening on my head. once you get out there and you get moving with the boys, it is a lot of fun. >> it is cold. it is noon and the temperature has only broken zero fahrenheit. that is just about perfect conditions for good scalable ice. but even in minnesota in mid-january, that is no longer a sure thing. jim is of the commissioner of the u.s. pond hockey championships. >> the biggest thing that causes us anxiety every year is the weather conditions. we have had 40 below. we have had 40 above. it has been incredibly unpredictable. >> in 2016, the event was
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postponed due to warm temperatures. when it was rescheduled, the ice was so soft that some players did not skied across it. they trudged. >> those types of events are scary and disappointing for the conditions of what we could have around us if things do not change a little bit for what we remember winter being like. >> the number of high-quality outdoor skating days has been declining especially in the last 20 or 30 years. >> robert is a professor of geography and environmental studies in canada were outdoor skating is so ingrained in the culture and image of pond hockey was on the five dollar bill. >> two things canadians love to talk about are the weather and hockey. we thought if we could come up with an environmental science project that links those two things to a broad understanding of climate change, we would have something. >> in 2013, he and his colleagues launched rink
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locations to collect more data on things like temperature and precipitation. kyle is one of them. she grew up in northern minnesota and fondly remembers skating on frozen lakes with her family. for the past two winters, she has built a 25 50 put frank -- 50 foot rink in her backyard. >> it is really hard to feel in your gut what the planet warming a few degrees a century means for you. you know this is bad but you don't see the immediate impact of it. what i think about as i'm entering data into the spreadsheet, if the conclusion of this is we are going to have a shorter skating season or potentially no skating season in my lifetime are my kids lifetime, that is a sad prospect to consider.
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>> as climate change chips away at the outdoor skating season, backyard rink boaters are not the only one feeling the effects. hockey was born on outdoor rings and nhl greats like when gretzky traced their careers today's skating in their childhood backyards. >> i played hours and hours outside should >> andrew spent 16 seasons in the nhl and help the boston bruins when the 2011 stanley cup. he has long been concerned about the environment. as a pro, he convinced hundreds of fellow players to buy carbon credits to offset emissions from their frequent travel. he now works for the nhl on a number of issues including sustainability. he says the most important part of the nhl green and should have is with the 32 teams are doing like improving efficiency at their indoor ice arenas. some located in florida, texas and arizona. >> it is hard to run a business with little impact especially if you're trying to keep ice frozen in giant rink that has a
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counselor and a basketball game that night. -- a counselor and a basketball game that night. look at, how do we run the most efficient building? how do we create the least amount of waste? >> the nhl was criticized last year for partnering with the maker of an ice refrigerant that has a higher global warming potential than ammonia, which is used to cool many professional and community ranks. in a letter, the leak said it has never been presented as the only solution and the vast majority of ranks using it had previously used refrigerants with an even higher global warming potential. the threat of climate change is about more than just future generations hockey players like andrew. >> the more important part is the social aspect of what outdoor ice is. it is not about developing nhl players. you are doing your drills and honing all your skills so you can make the nhl. you're messing around with friends.
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>> back in minnesota, the prospect of life without this past time is too much to bear. if this were to be lost, if you could not have pond hockey, -- >> you know, i don't think that is something i want to think about. >> on this day, they will just enjoy the cold. for the pbs newshour, i'm john yang in minneapolis. ♪ >> more lawmakers are weighing in on who president biden should select to fill the supreme court vacancy and held the confirmation process should be handd in the evenly divided senate. those are some of the issues to discuss in this week's politics monday with amy walter of the cook political report with amy walter and osma khalid of npr appeared tamra keith is away.
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hello to both of you. the big story of last week, justice stephen breyer announcing he is going to step down. giving president biden an opportunity to name his -- someone he wants on the court. amy, the president has said this is going to be someone extremely -- someone supremely qualified and it is going to be a black woman. are the opportunities for him and what does he need to be worried about? >> that is right. he has opportunity both to make a permanent influence on the court. this is somebody who most likely will be under the age of 60. able to sit on the court for a long time. it allows him as you pointed out to make good on his promise he made on the campaign trail to appoint a black woman to this position. the other thing i am looking for is how republicans are going to react. it was interesting to watch senator dickey urbawho is the
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chair -- senator dick durbin with the chair of the dishes she eric committee come out and talk to reporters and say i have talked to a lot of folks. there are a lot of republicans interested, potentially interested in supporting bidens nominee. a lot more names then you would have maybe cast. -- maybe have guest. it leads to this question of how much of a fight do republicans want to put up? how contentious do they want this? are replacing a more left-leaning justice with another one appointed by a democrat. it is not going to change the court. i think a lot of folks are looking at what happened with the kavanaugh hearings in october of 2018. at that time, it was a lot of talk about what this was going to do in the midterm elections. the fact it happened so close to the election, it was so contentious. it did as much to raise the intensity and enthusiasm of republican voters as it did democratic voters.
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if republicans make this a contentious drawnout process, it could end up backfiring in that it motivates what are now as motivated democratic voters. >> what are you hearing about this process and about how concerned the white house is about getting any republican votes for the nomie? >> i will say that to date, the president has been extraordinarily successful in his judicial appointments. it is one place where you look at to date, it has been over 40 nominees. throughout and i think he has put his stamp on diversifying the judiciary. what that means is this is something that clearly democrats have shown they are able to do without republican support. do they tried to court republicans? what i've begun to hear from democrats is this is an added bonus if they are able to get some republican votes but it is not as is harry.
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certainly the president wants to do this as quickly as possible. he has already said he intends to put the nomination forth by the end of february. he has -- tomorrow, he will be having over some of the leaders on the committee to the white house. what i will say again is i don't think democrats need republican votes, nor did they say they are going to spend a lot of time trying to seek them should >> know the president has said he should make -- he will make the decision by the end of february so everybody is trying to stay on top of the story. i also want to ask the two of was again out talking about the january 6 insurrection. here is a clip of what he had to say in texas over the weekend referring to the insurrectionists who assaulted the united states capital. >> if i run and i win, we will
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treat those people from january 6 fairly. we wil treat them fairly. if it requires pardons, we will give them pardons because they are being treated so unfairly. >> so amy, this is what he is saying. if he is reelected and we should say he put out a statement yesterday last night pointing out in his view that then vice president pence could have overturned the electoral vote result back a year ago. what are the political consequences of all of thi? >> the one thing it may do is put on a fast-track a real partisan commitment to reforming the act that in essence trump was referring to about
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pence's ability to overturn the election. the reform of it would make it clear the vice president has no role in deciding which slates of electors to accept or which slates of electors to deny. at the same time, i think the more donald trump is in news, the more that this as we get closer to the midterm elections, the more republicans have to talk about donald trump or distance themselves from these false statements he is making about january 6. the better it is politically for democrats. that is the kind of thing that fires up there base. it alienates independent voters. fundamentally, i think the leadership on the republican side really does want to put this behind them and move forward and donald trump is making that very difficult for them. >> how do you see the political
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calculus at this point for republicans? >> i agree with amy that i think this is putting a lot of pressure on having some sort of bipartisan consensus for the electoral act. that has been languishing to some degree in congress in part becaus democrats have been hoping for more transformational voting rights legislation. you have had a couple of key republican senators, mitt romney , susan collins who have been pushing for that. i would argue it has been more of the progressive democrats who have been a bit concerned about moving forward with the electoral act thinking it would be a replacement for any sorts of larger voting rights legislation to one donald trump makes comments as he did over the weekend when he put up the statement as he did sunday, it gives some sense of legitimacy that even for these progressive democrats maybe don't think it is enough that they need to do something. i do think it gives them another lifeline, rejuvenation of the electoral act to get through
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pretty quickly ahead of 2024. >> matter how may times we say he is not going to talk about it anymore, he keeps talking about it. redistricting. we have been talking a lot about republican legislatures and commissions drawing districts to favor them. in new york state, we are seeing a new map that heavily favors democrats. >> that is right. this is a state that in 2014 voters put -- voters approved a ballot measure that took redistricting out of the hands of politicians, put it in the hands of a bipartisan commission. it is a surprise to know when the bipartisan commission broke down. so it went back to the legislature, which is dominated by democrats. democrats gerrymandered a favorable map for themselves, which would basically cut the republican delegation in half from eight tfour. democrats wou have seats that
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are more democratic. three more seats that are heavily democratic. that is a substantial redistricting, gerrymander. it does not break the letter of the law but it certainly calls in to question the spirit of what was supposed to be government reform and taking it out of the hands of a partisan process. >> in just a few seconds, a reminder both parties are doing this. >> both parties are doing this. you sell it in michigan. this is a testament those independent commissions -- >> for sure. so thankful for both of you. we will see you next week. >> thank you. ♪ >> academy award-winning actor javier barred him is taking on
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his latest challenge in the film being the ricardo's and pushing for broader presentation in hollywood. jeffrey brown spoke with him as part of our alts -- our arts and culture series, can best. >> in being the ricardo's, he plays desi arnaz, the musician and producer who worked with lucille ball on the legendary tv comedy i love lucy. >> lucy, i'm home. >> the spanish actor did not grow up with lucy. when he watched it later in life, he was hooked. >> i discovered this amazing world. this amazing comedian. the artistry. the physical comedy they created. >> are you sure you are right? >> i am fine. >> the character he says was especially intriguing. >> what i found was this energy that i profoundly felt attached
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to her. the comedian, the entertainer are combined with the producer. the person who works hard to be heard. he was a foreigner. he had to make sure people will respect him. >> i was chained to this country. >> the film, written and directed by aaron sorkin, takes several true events and dramatizes them into one week of the show's production in 1952. a public accusation lucy was a communist in the height of mccarthy and the red scare. another of desi arnaz's philandering and a very real pregnancy they had important implications for a hit tv show. >> we have been through worse than this. >> we have? >> no. >> plenty of drama to bite into but it also called for singing, guitar playing and showmanship. i understand you told aaron sorkin you could do those things before you could.
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>> absolutely. i lied. >> you were faking it? >> there were so many boxes to check when you played this character that it was kind of overwhelming. but i wanted the part. was nice enough to trust me. he knew i was lying. i knew the moment i hung up the phone i will put myself to work. i worked tirelessly. >> he has worked his way to become one of the world's best known film stars. he won an oscar for best supporting actor in 2007 in no country for old men. >> i need to know what i stand to win. >> everythg. just call it. >> he has aeared in a variety of english and spanish speaking films including with his wife and fellow international celebrity, penelope cruz in everybody knows in 2018. he is on quite a roll now in addition to being the ricardo's kid there is -- ricardo's.
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there is a highly acclaimed spanish movie expected divide for the best foreign film at the oscars. but his casting as the cuban born desi arnaz drew social media criticism from someone between the part to go to a cuban or other latino. part of an ongoing call for more representation in hollywood. he says he sought the part but was at first put off. >> i was told they were going first to actors that were from cuba overhead cuban roots, which absolutely understood and supported. but then they did not happen for different reasons and they came back to me and i said of course. i worship the fact he was from cuba and i will work hard to earn it. >> director aaron sorkin defended his choice and told the time of -- the times of london the chrism is heartbreaking and chilling to see members of the artistic community recycle getting ourselves.
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bardem sticks to his decision as well. >> i absolutely respect the fact that of course they have to be represented. at the same time if or whatever reason let's say the director does not want that option and he wants to go to another actor that is not from the same place of origin, we have to respect that because that is what we do. we become different people. we portray people we are not. >> he recently spec -- recently picked up a screen actors guild nomination in his performance. more accolades may well be coming. more films are definitely on the way. this is your family business from several generations. did you ever think of doing anything else? >> i studied painting. i love painting. i guess it was in my blood, in my dna to perform. that is what my mother did, my grandparents did, my great-grandparents did. so i guess i was called to it.
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and thank god i was because it is a beautiful craft. it is a beautiful job. i think it is necessary as well. all of us locked in our houses. the importance of storytelling is huge. >> i see that you are playing king triton in the middle -- little morbid and you just wrapped -- little mermaid and you just wrapped production on lyle while crocodile paired what is going on? are you mellowing? >> i like to try different things. i like to put myself in a place i have not been before and see how i can cope with that. it was fun. it was great. the good news is my kids can watch those movies because most of my work is not kid friendly. at least they can watch some movies of their father. >> nice to talk to you. thank you. > thank you very much for your time. >> i cannot wait to see that film. that is the newshour for
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