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♪ >> a community in mourning the president grieves with families of those killed in the mass shooting in buffalo calling out the attack as terrorism inspired by the poison of white surpremacy. then. a critical moment ukrainian fighters leave a steel plant that was the last holdout in mariupol, ceding control of that
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strategic port city to the russians. and. the space between us russia's invasion of ukraine threatens its decades-long partnership with nasa and the future of the international space station. our teams are still talking together. we're still doing training together. we're still working together. it would be a sad day for international operations if we can't continue to peacefully operate in space. all that and more on tonight's "pbs newshour." ### clip title graphic our u.s.-based customer service team to help find plan that fits you. find out more, visit consumer
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this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station by viewers like you. >> president biden offered both consolation and a call to reject racism, extremism and white supremacy during a visit to buffalo, new york, today. the president delivered his remarks less than 72 hours after police say a white supremacist shot 13 people, killing ten of them, in an attack on black americans in the city. special correspondent cat wise reports from buffalo.
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>> today, president biden and the first lady hand in hand paid their respects at the makeshift memorial outside of tops supermarket. then met privately with families of the 10 victims killed during a racist rampage at the site in an eastern neighborhood of buffalo, new york. the president condemned the gunman for his targeted pursuit of black people in the store. >> "what happened here is simple and straightforward terrorism. domestic terrorism. violence inflicted the service of hate." "white supremacy is a poison." >> receiving calls for stronger federal regulation of guns, the president said there's little that can be done by executive action. but he did call out the spread of racist ideology online as a motivation for such attacks. "the internet has radicalized angry, alienated, lost and isolated individuals into falsely believing that they will be replaced that's the word: replaced by the other." >> biden was referring to a false idea known as replacement theory.
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today, sen. minority leader mitch mcconnell was asked to speak out against that idea and declined. >> "this horrible episode in buffalo is a direct result of a completely deranged young man who ought to suffer severe as possible penalty under the law." >> meanwhile back in buffalo, there were new details about the accused guman and the alleged plot leading up to the massacre on saturday. diary entries discovered on the platform "discord" indicate he had planned as early as november to live stream an attack on african americans he also traveled from his hometown over 200 miles away in march to scope out the tops store. >> you're gonna see a lot of ptsd, a lot of trauma. >> dr. kenyani davis chief medical officer of the community health center of buffalo spent yesterday providing mental health counseling and support to employees of tops, many of whom told her they'd interacted with
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the alleged gunman on previous days. >> he came in prior and and told 'em, it was the day before, that he was going to he was going to come back and kill him. and the employee said, oh, okay. people have guilt. not only do they have survivor's guilt, but they have remorse because he's like, "i checked him out. i had a conversation with him. i talked to him, you know, days prior." >> this morning, she was still processing what she heard. >> my first gentleman that i that i counseled when he recounted being in a freezer and hearing the shots come through. and when the police escorted him out and he had to walk over bodies, he literally described everybody what they were wearing, who it was. and so he can never unsee that. i don't think i can un-hear that, you know. for some residents, the crime
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scene has become a place togrve 61-year-old eric watts brought two of his grandsons as they looked on, he shared advice no child should have to hear. >> "you gotta be aware of your surroundings. keep your eyes open. be vigilant." >> watts who learned monday night that one of his relatives was killed in the shooting grew up in the neighborhood. now, he and his wife betty are raising five of their grandchildren in a house just minutes away from the tops supermarket. >> you brought some of your grandchildren there today. eric: yes. >> what were you trying to have them see there? >> racism is still here after all these years. i was trying to convey to them to be careful wherever you go >> do you worry about their safety? >> i do. every day they leave home, i worry about their safety. i keep my kids around me. i go to the grocery store. i take them with me now. i go to the store. i take them with me now. >> that must be hard. >> it iswhy do you have to
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live like that? why do we have to live like that now? >> watts and some in the community are upset at the way the alleged gunman was treated during his arrest. >> how many of our african-americans are getting killed in the streets for just holding a gun? how many of our african-americans are getting killed in the streets by the police for not complying? this white guy killed ten people. allegedly killed ten people and had a chance to walk out the store. >> watts was living in south carolina in 2015, when a gunman opened fire at a black church in charleston, killing nine. >> to see that happen in south carolina and then happened here saturday, it about back memories. it brought back such memories that that overfilled me again. this one hurts more because it hurts more because it's home. >> but that home is one of the most segregated places in america. about 85 percent of buffalo's black residents live on the east side where the tops supermarket opened in 2003, after a long community-led campaign.
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the area has experienced decades of systemic racism from discriminatory housing practices to the construction of a highway that split it in half. now, its poverty rate is far higher than the rest of the city and researchers say key measures of income, education and health are even worse than they were 30 years ago. dr. kenyani davis says the shooting was the ultimate injustice for a community that's had more than its share. >> this individual from three or 4 hours away who doesn't even live in our community, knows that we have these injustices, know that we had these structural racism, know that we had these issues and felt comfortable enough knowing that this is where i was going to be able to target the most black people. that that lets you know how bad these issues really are when it's not just a local thing. >> but in the days since the massacre, buffalo residents have
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also shown their resilience and unity launching a number of food drives for those impacted by the supermarket's osure people like lifelong east side resident latasha pouncey. >> it's sad that we have to come together for a tragedy like this, for people to come, you know, to help the community. but it's nice to see that people are coming together. >> residents we've spoken to over the past couple days say they want to see action, not just words from the president on gun violence, threats from white supremacy and racial inequality more broadly. for the pbs newshour, i'm cat wise in buffalo, new york ♪ >> in the day's other news: the u.s. "food and drug administration" authorized "pfizer's" low-dose "covid" booster shot for children 5 to 11 years old. the cdc's recommendation on the shot could come later this week.
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and, overseas, china restricted more beijing residents to their homes to help control a small outbreak. that, in turn, sparked new frustration from locals. >> "every day there's uncertainty because you don't know if you're going to be quarantined at home or segregated in an office area. every day also requires a nucleic acid test to be done. in fact, i still feel that this policy is indeed a bit toouch. but i also have to respect this policy." >> shanghai has reported three straight days of no new cases. the number of u.s. highway deaths shot up last year after a law -- after a lull during the pandemic. the "national ghway traffic safety administration' reports nearly
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43-thousand people were killed on the roads nearly 120 every day of the year. that was 10 percent higher than in 2020 and the most since 2004. in ukraine: the last resistance to russia's invading army appeared to crumble in the southern city of mariupol. ukrainian officials said their remaining fighters were abandoning a ruined steel plant there. that would give russia a major victory, a key port and a land bridge to crimea which moscow seized in 2014. we'll focus on this in detail, after the news summary. final election results in lebanon show "hezbollah" shi-ite militants backed by iran have lost their majority in parliament. sunday's vote came amid the country's economic collapse and political deadlock. as results were being tallied, supporters carried one opposition candidate through the streets, in a victory procession. >> this is a national celebration, par excellence. after two-and-a-half years of directly facing off in the streets against a government of injustice, finally, we've begun the journey to change in lebanon. this is a national
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celebration! >> "hezbollah's" most vocal christian party opponents were among the biggest winners in the voting. back in this country: in a fir of its kind lawsuit, two democratic presidential electors in wisconsin are suing the state's republican electors over the 2020 vote. the reblicans tried to cast electoral ballots for then-president trump even though joe biden carried the state. the lawsuit seeks future restrictions on the republicans, and up to $2-point-4 million dollars in damages. for the first time half a century, the u-s cgress has held a hearing on unidentified flying objects, or u-f-o's. a government report last year cited more than 140 unexplained incidents since 2004. at a house hearing today, pentagon officials said they have no evidence of anything like space aliens. but they insisted they're open to any explanation.
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>> our goal is not to potentially cover up something if we were to find something, it's to understand what may be out there then to work with organizations as appropriate - if it's a weather phenomenology with noaa, if it's potential for extraterrestrial life or indication of extraterrestrial life with someone like nasa. >> lawmakers from both parties said there's a potential national security concern if chinese or russian technology is involved. billionaire elon musk warned today that his deal to buy "twitter" can't happen unless there's proof that fake and spam accounts comprise less than 5 percent of users. musk said he believes the real figure is at least 20 percent. the "tesla" founder offered $44 billion dollars for "twitter" last month, but he put that on hold, last week. the head of the federal reserve jerome powell reaffirmed today that the central bank will keep raising interest rates until inflation declines. he also said that if need be,
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policymakers will consider moving more aggressively. the fed already raised short-term rates by 3-quarters of a percentage point this year. and, on wall street: stocks rallied on news of strong retail sales in april. the dow jones industrial average gained 431 points 1 percent to close at 32-thousand-654. the nasdaq rose 321 points -- nearly 2-point-8 percent. the s-and-p 500 also added 2 percent. still to come on thenewshour". the united states grapples with the impact of the pandemic as we pass the grim milestone of one million deaths our student reporting bs reflect on how seeing negative stereotypes of asian americans in media can affect mental health. we remember the victims of the racially-motivated mass shooting in buffalo and much more.
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voters cast ballots today for primary races in key states across the country. and observers are keeping a close eye on how endorsements by former president donald trump, help or harm candidates in these hotly contested races. to break it all down, i'm joined by our political correspondent, lisa desjardins. remind us which states are voting today - and why they stand out? >> it is just five states who voted today, but they are good ones. blue, purple, and red states across the country. we highlight them all in yellow just to be unified. these estates are important for several reasons. one of which is the u.s. senate.
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the candidates the parties will choose today in some of the states couldet up -- could determine which party controls the senate. in a close senate race is so important for the country and for both parties. >> let's talk about the first state closing its polls - north carolina - there is a high profile senate race there. >> the north carolina senate race is fascinating. these are the republican candidates. this is a race where former president trump has made an endorsement. the current congressman. he is opposing some well-known names. the former governor and also a former member of congress. right now, it is election day and you never know what's going
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to happen. it seems like trump's adore smith and the representatives ability to get ahead early on fundraising helped him. in north carolina, they had record-breaking early voting. today, the polls were mixed as far as turnout. let's talk about the democrat that would like to oppose one of those republicans. beasley is a former chief justice of the north carolina supreme court. if you, she would be the third black woman ever elected to the u.s. senate. she does have a large field of other candidates, but she is far out in front and she is expected to win the race. another race our viewers might be interested in, a race with madison cawthorn. he is known in recent days for a number of scandals in closing -- including sexual improprieties.
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the hot water he has gotten into, he faces three court dates coming up on traffic and gun violations. he is a trump-endorsed candidate. we will see. >> now to pennsylvania - where they have two races getting national attention. what are we seeing there? >> rocky wants to hear about pennsylvania also. talk about the senate race. president trump has endorsed dr. oz. he is a well-known health and personality on tv against the republican. we are watching kathy barnett on the left. she has surged in the past days as other candidates have been attacking each other. john federman has been out in front. he is lieutenant governor. over the weekend, he suffered a minor stroke. his campaign says he is having a
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pacemaker installed. they say he should be able to resume campaigning, but we will see if that affects the first day of voting. >> we are glad that your cat rocky is paying attention. and online you can stay up to date with the latest election results from pennsylvania and four other states that held primary elections today. that is at the battle for the city of mariupol appears to be over, after hundreds of ukrainian soldiers surrendered from their final holdout. the city has suffered one of europe's bloodiest battles since world war two. and now, russia appears to hold the entire ukrainian port, its largest gain of the
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war. nick schifrin has the story. >> ukrainian soldiers-wounded but alive and in the custody of their enemy. russian tv showed its version of what appears to be the beginning of the end of the siege of mariupol. a lonely procession of the wounded, some of the final ukrainian holdouts from the azovstal steel plant. what russia today called a mass surrender. ukraine admits more than 260 soldiers are being bussed to russian-controlled territory in ukraine. some today arrived in separatist-controlled olenivka, on the site of a former penal colony known for torture and squallid conditions. they held out for nearly 3 months, living and fighting from tunnels designed to withstand nuclear attacks. many of them in the azov regiment, born from a right-wing militia, now integrated into the ukrainian military. they held out underneath the sprawling azovstal steel plant. their resistance prevented russia from consolidating its gains,
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and today ukrainian officials called them heroes. >> mariupol drew in the russian federation's forces for 82 days. their operation to seize the east and south was held up. it changed the course of the war. an unknown number of ukrainian soldiers remain in the plant, but ukraintoday said their mission is no longer to fight. today in kyiv those soldiers' families, begged for their release, even into russian custody. >> they are trying everything to get them out. we try ourselves to help them in any way possible. >> they eat once a day. we hope for extraction. this is what we're fighting for. i don't see another way out. >> t city of mariupol is a city in ruins. ukrainian officials estimate a brutal 10-week siege killed 20,000 civilians and destroyed 90 percent of the city. the w-h-o was it could now face outbreaks of cholera. the only videos of the city today, heavily curated by pro-russian separatist occupiers. ukraine says residents are forced to work in exchange for food. but russia's
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control of the city appears to complete its objectives in southeast ukraine. before the invasion, russian separatists controlled territory up to a dozen miles east of mariupol. today, russian forces have seized a 500-mile strip along the southern coast, giving russia control of a land bridge corridor to crimea, annexed in 2014. >> this gives russia a corridor of land over which it can resupply and access crimea, its forces in crimea, its people in crimea. >> kevin ryan is a retired u.s. army brigadier general who served as a defense attache in russia, and is now senior fellow at the harvard kennedy school's belfer center. >> what's the significance of russia being able to claim that it has seized all of mariupol, including the plant? >> domestically, for putin, this is important for himself politically to be able to show that he has achieved a victory once the forces that are engaged and taking mariupol are finished
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with their mission, those russian forces can be directed elsewhere. they could go to the south west and present a threat to odessa. or they could be used to to move up into the eastern part of ukraine and help completely occupy the donbas region. >> in the donbas, russian shells continue to devastate residential neighborhoods, like in bakhmut today. the top of an apartment complex, ripped off, and gutted. among the wounded, a little boy, whom first responders fought to save. ukinian soldiers are fighting back with recently arrived american howitzers. ukrainian officials say these weapons will allow them to launch counterattacks, but it's not easy to evict russian forces from territory they occupied. >> the size of the ukrainian military versus the size of the russian military just simply doesn't seem to suggest that they could kick the russian forces out of the land that russia already occupies.
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and are now at the mercy of the russian military. for the pbs newshour, i'm nick schifrin. >> as so many have said, it's impossible to fully convey the staggering toll of this covid pandemic. the statistical comparisons have certainly been noted. the deaths in the u.s. are roughly equal to losing as many people each day as we lost in the attacks of september eleventh, 2001 but for almost an entire year. it's also roughly equal to losing the entire populations of boston and pittsburgh. but numbers describe just one part of this. and each life touches so many other lives. ed yong of the atlantic has been
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writing about this for more than two years. and he joins us again tonight. one of the things you mention is how different it is morning these deaths. you spoke about this because covid ticked off so many risk factors. what is that a reference to? >> the grief of many of the people i have spoken to is incredibly prolonged. it is disenfranchised grief which means it doesn't seem to acknowledge or validate. many of the people i have spoken to who of lost loved ones to covid never got to have the rituals that allow us to mourn. how did your loved one get
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covid? did they have a comorbidity? were they vaccinated or not? all of these factors have pushed their grief will of the surface to a place where they can't deal with it. they haven't been able to go out and about and try to live their normal lives. at this moment, when so much of the country is going back to normal, it's as if this grief has been placed in a time capsule then released again. so many of the people are sorrowful and raging all over again. >> you write and there is so much to ask you about, you write about how this has affected covid in morning those we have lost has affected differently the elderly and those with disabilities. >> the millions of death who have been recorded have not
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fallencross the country randomly. they have been concentrated among the elderly, the sick and immunocompromised, black and brown people, poor and low income people. that is contributed to our normalization of those deaths. they were already marginalized before the pandemic happened and they will continue to be marginalized in death as well as in life. meanwhile, the people who set the narrative disproportionately don't fall into those groups. they had thear eotheanr eslifesadving measured they were quickest to decide that the pandemic was over without grappling with the massive costs that the groups that i mentioned continue to face. >> you mentioned the vaccines. did you see a difference in the reaction to the mourning to
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those we lost before we had a vaccine or to those who had a vaccine but still succumbed as opposed to those whoade the decision not to get vaccinated? >> absolutely. if you talk to those who lost loved ones after the vaccinates came out is the question is where they vaccinated? they will get that before hearing things like i sorry for your loss. decent acts of compassion. that question about whether they are vaccinated cast judgment upon the dead, forces them to justify the loss of their loved one and their grief. in many cases, these were people who didn't have access to vaccines, who still continue to not have access despite them being readily available for matters for time or effort. people who have lost loved ones who decided not to get
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vaccinated, who bought into misinformation, does that warrant a death sentence? does that mean you shouldn't be allowed to grieve someone you have lost? that person is still dead, they still leave behind people who are broken and morning and who i think deserve the space and grace to cope with their grief. >> these are all questions we are all struggling with. one of the other points you make is that as you are talking to these people who have lost a loved one to covid, it is your observation that the so-called stages of grief are not what many people have come t believe , that there are five stages of grief and they follow one after the other. >> that's not how grief works. there aren't these discrete stages. they don't go in an orderly pattern. they don't always end in
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acceptance. leading to some kind of closure is a myth and an unhelpful one. any of the people who have lost loved ones to covid because their grief has been so prolonged have gone through multiple cycles of these emotions. they don't progress the way society thinks they should. they don't get over it really quickly. another myth we have is that time heals everything. time itself heals nothing. time gives you the opportunity, the chances to learn ways of coping with that grief. the pandemic denied people those chances because of the lack of rituals, sympathy, thing -- the thing that killed loved ones is on the news. it's not a recipe for learning how to deal with grief. it is a recipe for that grief to
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fester and stagnate which is what we are seeing now. that's why things like memorials, acts of national recognition are going to be so important for the 9 million people who have lost their loved ones. >> those memorials will continue. they will keep coming, this pandemic is still very much with us. thank you so much. >> boeing is set for a test launch of its small spacecraft to the international space station on thursday. part of its efforts to increase manned space launches from u.s. soil the space station has long been an international collaboration and russia and america have long been partners. but the invasion on of ukraine
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has led to new tensions and questions about the future. miles o'brien has our report about the rhetoric versus the reality. >> more than two months since russia launched its war against ukraine, and it seems like business as usual aboard the international space station - despite the turmoil 250 miles below. >> "first through the hatch is denis matveyev">> c intact. russian cosmonaut anton shkaplerov handed over command to nasa astronaut tom marshburn at the end of march, with some poignant words. >> people have problem on earth on orbit. uh, we are like, one crew. and i think iss is like symbol of the friendship and cooperations. thcamaraderie between us and russian spacefarers is more than lip service. you know, when you're on the space station. it's like there's
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earth with all the other humans and we're here and this is our world right now. former nasa astronaut scott kelly was twice a commander of the space station logging nearly a year on board during his last stint in 2015 and 16. and what's important to us is not necessarily what's important to those people down there because we're kind of relying on each other for emotional psychological support, help friendship literally our lives. but the head of the russian space agency - roscosmos - is on another kind of mission. dimitry rogozin - a prominent nationalist - is using social media to deliver a series of menacing even nuclear threats aimed at his western partners in the international space station. in early march, he tweeted a video of workers covering up partner flags on a soyuz rocket
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- writing the "rocket would look more beautiful." scott kelly fired back on his twitter feed "your space program won't be worth a damn," he wrote. "maybe you can find a job at mcdonald's if mcdonald's still exists in russia." >> the reason i did it in the way i did it is because i wanted to get his attention and it worked. >> so and then he fires back pretty quickly. >> yeah, he called me a moron. he said if the space station is is deorbited or something, or if the program is canceled, it's going to be my fault. >> a few days later rogozin orchestrated the release of a spoof video depicting cosmonauts closing the hatch to the russian modules and drifting away from the station leaving us astronaut mark vande hei behind home alone. and rogozin has repeatedly threatened to pull out of the space station because of western
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sanctions aimed at russia. but nasa leaders are not taking the bait. kathy lueders is the associate administrator in charge of human spaceflight. >> our flight controllers are still talking together. our teams are still talking together. we're still doing working together. it would be a sad day for international operations if we can't continue to peacefully operate in space. >> the us, russia, canada, europe and japan have been doing that for the better part of thirty years. it was an ironic twist for cold war space race adversaries. but in the early 1990s, congress was balking at the cost of what was then called "space station freedom." and the clinton administration wanted to keep russian rocket scientists employed for fear they might sell their services to the likes of north korea. >> it was essentially a merger between two human spaceflight programs in two in two countries. >> anatoly zak is publisher and editor of russian
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after the the us won the race to put humans on the moon, the russians focused on long duration missions on a series of space stations culminating with the mir. >> russian spacerogram was looking down black hole complete abyss because there was no money to build the next space station after mir at that time. suddenly from nowhere, almost these two very complex projects were kind of merged together in which russians benefited, far, far more than nasa benefited from from that agreement. the international space station was designed in a manner that makes the partners interdependent. the russian modules have the crucial thrusters to maintain the station's desired altitude and attitude and avoid collisions.
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while solar arrays on the us side produce almost all the electricity. >> it would be risky for the life of the station. neither side would really be able to survive very well without the other. >> wayne hale is a former space shuttle program manager now on the nasa advisory council. the agency is working on contingency plans in case the russians hastily bow out but it's complicated. >> it would be a real technological reach. but there are teams off studying how to keep it going right now. so. so it probably would not bode well. yeah, it would certainly put a challenge to the system, but it doesn't mean that we would end our space station program, you know, immediately. >> a divorce may not be practical even if truly desired. and so the partnership endures to the chagrin of some. >> all kinds of sanctions have been applied by the united states and the western governments against russia. but the international space station just sails on. >> author homer hickam is a former nasa engineer andanager who helped negotiate the memorandum of understanding that guides the partnership. he says i's time to re-evaluate the arrangement and pull the plug on the friendly photo ops.
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>> i just don't think it's good optics right now to show american astronauts and russian cosmonauts hugging and playing with their food and all that kind of thing, and really recommend that they avoid those types of optics. because after all, right now, the russian government is engaging in a hideous war against its neighbor ukraine, and killing men, women and children right before our eyes. >> up until now, the unlikely partnership in space that met with so much skepticism at the outset, has succeeded beyond most expectations. leroy chiao was station commander in 2004 and 05. >> it's pretty amazing even now looking back that, you know, all these countries who were world war two enemies, cold war enemies i mean sworn to destroy each other came together and built this most audacious space construction project ever tried. and it went off so well and it continues to operate so well.
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>> you know, if we lose this, you know, our ability to work peace peacefully in space with the russians, you know, what do we have left that keeps us together? so only bad things. and this is the one good thing we have left. >> the space station agreement expires in 2024. nasa is hoping to keep it in orbit until 2030. in less bombastic moments, dmitry rogozin says russia has made its decision and will notify its partners a year in advance. so it appears this fraught partnership will fly on for now high above the fray. for the pbs newshour, i'm miles o'brien. >> as key republican primary races are taki place across
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the country, a battle is underway within the g-o-p about its beliefs and its future. amna nawaz explains. >> the republican party has long been the political party of choice for conservatives but as matthew ntinetti explains in his new book, "the right - the hundred year war for american conservatism", the gop has also historically attracted those with populist views, similar to what we're seeing today. matt continetti joins me now. why as? >> a war is a struggle for dominance between two main groups. intellectual elites and the populist gssroots.
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and what i found in my 100 year study is that there have been times where these two groups, the elites and the populists, have cooperated. but more often there have been times where they're in conflict, where the conservative intellectuals, the conservative movement, wanted one thing and the populists wanted another thing. usually when it comes to the question of who should be the leader of this movement and of this party. >> we're in that struggle right now, too. >> oh, of course, yes. we've been going through this struggle in many ways since 1992 over which direction the republican party should take. should it be more nationalist? should it be more globalist or more open to global engagement? but certainly since 2015 and the rise of donald trump, that struggle has been tilted toward, i think, the populist side. >> you write about how obviously anti-communism was an early sort of organizing principle, right? if you said you were conservative, that was a strong part of your identity that went away with the cold war. so what what are the organizing principles today when someone says, i'm conservative? what
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does that mean? >> well, it could mean many things, precisely because that glue that anti-communism provided the movement no longer exists. so when i look at the right today and you ask someone, you're a conservative, what does that mean? i think one unifying factor would be opposition to political correctness, opposition to the so-called woke ideology, especially when it manifests itself in cultural institutions. that seems to be a binding commitment that many people on the right hold today. >> what about the potential overturning of roe? right. opposition to abortion rights has also been a core organizing principle. it's a 50 year fight. conservatives could be winning that. does that take away an organizing principle? >> well, i think it would actually vindicate those on the right who have said that working through institutions could produce results. so if roe v wade is overturned by the end of this supreme court term, that would actually be a win for the more establishment forces who are able to say to the populists, look, we took 50
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years, we had victories, we had setbacks, but we worked our way through the courts, through the judicial process, through organizations like the federalist society. and we finally came out with a win overturning roe v wade. that, i think would be a powerful tool for the more intellectual elite conservatives to use to reorient the movement more in their direction, as opposed to the grassroots populist side. >> it does take away one of those kind of rallying cries, right, that is is why we need to back are our candidates because of this particular fight. and some of the other rallying cries we've seen gaining ground often now include a lot more of those sort of dangerous and ugly messages that used to be on the fringes and are now kind of finding their way more into the mainstream. some of these really dangerous, like white supremacist ideas like we saw linked to the alleged shootein buffalo. there's reallyeen no meaningful effort from leadership to condemn these kinds of things, though, so why not? >> was very important for the conservative movement coming out of world war two to really define the parameters of
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conservasm. for william f buckley, jr, the leader of the postwar conservative movement, to say ai-semites can't be a part of my conservatism. nspiracy theorists can't be a part of my conservatism. anarchists can't be a part of my conservatism. in the new era, in the social media era, gatekeepers like william f buckley jr. no longer exist. and so it's incumbent on people to police their own institutions. and some conservatives have done a better job than others of that. >> but we're not seeing that kind of gatekeeping even from leadership. >> right? right. well, i think there's a problem. there's a tribal instinct that kicks in, especially these days, too, when republicans or conservatives see the liberals in the media or in politics saying one thing, they instantly want to be against it. and there's a rallying behind the opposing idea. and you see that playing out now with discussions over culpability for this awful act in buffalo. >> when you talk about the
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populist movement kind of gaining ground, the largest conservative conference is goi to be hosted in hungary, right, with viktor orban as their keynote speaker, who is an ally of vladimir putin. what does that say to you about where that conservative center of gravity is right now? and does it alarm you? >> it does. it's important to me as an american conservative that we put the american in conservatism, that we have reference to the american founding, to the ideals not always worked out in practice of that founding, and to the political institutions embodied in the constitution, the rule of law, the free market and civil society. when i see elements of the right look to european continental models of governance, i become very concerned. but precisely because there's an un-american this to
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them and that they look away from american traditions, american politics. that's where i think the future of conservatism ought to lie with the united states. >> that's where you think it ought to lie. but based on what you have seen right now with some of these more extremist forces, misinformation campaigns. you say in your book what a lot of conservatives will not say out loud that joe biden won the 2020 election. are you concerned conservatism is being overtaken by extremism here? >> i wouldn't have written the book if i wasn't so concerned. i do think there are some signs of hope. if we had been having this conversation in may of 2014, neither of us would have said that donald trump would be the republican nominee in 2016 or the president. or if we had said that, we'd be very rich because we could have won money on the betting markets. so what that tells me is that politics changes and changequickly. a new republican leader could reorient the movement and i thk a more positive, forward looking, agenda driven direction. >> the book is the write the 100 year war for american conservatism. the author is matt continetti. thank you so much for being here. >> thank you.
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>> the month of may is dedicated to asian american pacific islander heritage and mental health awareness two subjects mabelen bonifacio knows well. she is a teen filmmaker from georgia whose films focus on growing up and identity. faiza ashar, host of our student reporting labs youth mental health podcast, "on our minds" recently spoke to bonifacio about the toll asian american stereotypes take on teen mental health and well being. >> hi, mabelen great to talk with you today. i loved your video. so tell me more about what compelled you to make the video? mabelen bonifacio: so basically the whole "nothing less" video was kind of based off of a different video that i also made. basically, the whole thing between the both of them was me trying to tell my own narrative. and so i found like film
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competitions, that prompted me and allowed me to tell that story that i wanted to tell. >> every movement has had its shine. but the one that's been closest to me has been the fight for respect by the asian american and pacific islander community. growing up in a predominantly white and hispanic latino community, didn't give me a lot of opportunities to connect with my own culture. faiza ashar: how do you think stereotypes within the aapi community or better known as the asian american pacific islander community, negatively impact our community as a whole? mabelen: it definitely does impact people in a way that any stereotype would, and just getting diminished of your persality just because of like, who you are, and just being thought of as this one thing, the one reay smart kid who's always good at math. like that was always something for me growing up. i would always feel like i could not do less than, because everyone was like, "oh she's the asian kid! she's gonna get straight a's! she's gonns get 100s!"
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faiza: so how has this like kind of dinishing or like boiling down your accomplishments as just an asian how has this impaed your mental health? mabelen: i think it was like at the end of middle school, where it really hit the hardest, because it was that transition. and just the growth that like, people normally go through transitioning from middle school to high school, and just adding all of my identity onto that, because i felt like, i didn't know who i was. and i was just living based off of the expectations that like other students at my school had of me of like, what my parents thought of me what my sister thought of me. faiza: wow, i'm getting emotional hearing this like, because i feel like this is something that is so common, especially in the asian community. and we often don't talk about it because there's such a stigma surrounding mental health. mabelen: sometimes the first step in people's lives is to like acknowledge the presence or existence of mental health issues. and sometimes all it takes to take that first step is
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to have a conversation with one of your friends or someone that you trust and be like, am i really okay? because sometimes you're not, and that's fine. and then you just need to work your way around it. and then like, growth isn't linear. so even if you're on that journey, if you go downhill at some point, it's not the end of the road. ♪ >> finally tonight, let's return to bfalo. ten people lost their lives there this weekend. we wanted to take a moment to reflect on how they lived their lives - and the legacies they leave. katherine massey was known for her advocacy. last year, when a family member of a state lawmaker was fatally shot, the 72 year old wrote a letter to
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the buffalo news calling for stricter gun control measures. a friend told reporters "she would fight for anybody, without a doubt." 55-year old aaron salter was a buffalo police officer for three decades. after retiring in 2018, he took up work as a security guard at tops friendly market. salter fired back at the shooter, and is credited with saving lives. president biden spoke yesterday about salter's heroism: >> "we pay tribute to all law enforcement officers and their families who understand what it takes, what's at risk to save and protect all of us. and that includes paying tribute to the buffalo police officer, aaron salter" celestine chaney, a 65-year-old grandmother of six, went to tops supermarket to buy strawberries. her sister, joann, went with her but survived. "my sister survived breast
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cancer and three aneurysm surgeries to go to the grocery store to get killed." andre mackneil, who was 53, was at tops to buy a birthday cake for his three year old son. his fiance wrote on facebook following the shooting: "today my baby was born but today my soulmate was taken. how do i tell my son his daddy's not coming home? how do i as a mother make it ok? someone please tell me because i really don't know." margus morrison recently worked as a bus aide for the buffalo public schools and loved being around kids. the father and husband went to tops to buy snacks for a family movie night. his younger brother, frederick, told reporters: "it hurts me so much right now because i wasn't
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86-year-old ruth whitfield stopped at tops supermarket after visiting her husband at his nursing home. her son, a former buffalo fire commissioner, remembering his mother: >> "we're devastated. we're devastated. we're a very close family. we're very very close family and my mother was the glue that held us all together." geraldine talley, 62, was a regular shopper at tops and an avid baker. her younger sister, kaye, told reporters: "we had so many plans together, so many plans, and everything has just been stripped away from us." heyward patterson went to tops supermarket daily, offering rides to people for less money than ride-sharing services in the area. he was shot while helping someone load groceries into the trunk of a car. he was 67. 32-year-old roberta drury went to tops to buy groceries for dinner. her sister, amanda,
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described roberta as "vibrant" and someone who "made the whole room smile and laugh." and pearl young, 77, was a proud grandmother of eight who volunteered for years every saturday at a food pantry run by her church. she had been working this spring as a high school substitute teacher. pearl's niece, jaqueline, reflected on her aunt's legacy: >> "she was a pearl, she was a gem. she was a precious jewel and it reflected her name." we think it is important to remember not just how they died,
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but how they lived their lives. all that and more is on our web site, and that's the newshour for tonight. i'm judy woodruff. join us on-line and again here tomorrow evening. for all of us at the pbs newshour, thank you, please stay safe and we'll see you soon. >> architect. mentor. ber.eepe raymond james financial advisor taylor's advice to help you live your life. a life well planned. carnegie corporation of new york. the target foundation committed to advancing racial equity and committing the change required. with the ongoing support of
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. ♪ hello, everyone, and welcome to "amanpour & company" from kabul in afghanistan. here's what's coming up. a world exclusive with one of afghanistan's most powerful and secretive figures, the deputy taliban lder sirajuddin haqqani on working with america the rights of women and rls here and why he's finally coming out of the shadows and revealing his face to the public. then, reaction from the west and the thorny question of how the international community should deal with the taliban in order to help the people. laurel miller joins me, america's former acting special representative for afghanistan. and margot wallstrom, sweden's former top diplomat, who put
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