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judy: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on "the newshour" tonight, calls for action. demands for school safety grow more insistent as you've laced some of the slain tourist. then, the cost of the conflict. european leaders meet to discus another round of sanctions against russia as some countries resist an embargo on russian oil. and looking back. retired duke men's basketball coach mike krzyzewski root -- ncaa and histhemost five decad'e
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institutions. this program was me possible by the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. judy: funerals have begun in uvalde, texas, one week after a gunman killed 19 children, two teachers at an elementary school. two 10-year-old victims were remembered today in the first of 11 services this week. meanwhile, state police said that a teacher had closed a door that the gunman ultimately used get inside, but the door did not
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lock. we return to this later in the program. a special counsel probe sfered a blow today in its first courtroom test. attorney mhael sussman was acquitted of lying to the fbi. he had been accused of concealing ties to hillary clinton's 2016 presidential bid. he reported possible links between the trump business organization and the russian bank. after leaving the court, he claimed vindication. >> i told the truth to the fbi, and the jury clearly recognized that with their tremendous verdict today. i'm grateful to the members of the jury for their careful and thoughtful service. despite being falsely accused, i'm relieved that justice ultimately prevailed in my case. judy: we will consider this case and the verdict later in the program. president biden called the head of the federal reserve today to talk about the worst inflation
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in 40 years but pledged to respect the central bank's independence. the president met with jerome powell, who recently gained confirmation for his second term. >> my goal is not only to nominate highly qualified invidual but to give them the space they need to do their job. i'm not going to interfere with their critically important work. the fed has dual responsibilities. one, full employment. two, stable prices. judy: meanwhile, inflation in the euro zone hit a record 8.1% annual rate, largely due to a nearly 40% spike in energy prices. russian forces kept up a relentless onslaught in eastern ukraine today. ukrainian officials said that russians nowontrol most of the city of donetsk. thousands of civilians are trapped there without power.
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meanwhile, moscow announced a european union agreement to embargo 90% of russian oil imports. in southwest iran, authorities have cut off internet access to silence public anger after a deadly tower collapse. the tragedy killed 34 people, triggering anger over government corruption and negligence. state tv showed an official trying to calm the crowd near the wreckage site for being shouted down. later, police moved in and violently shut down the protest. back in this country, wall street closed out a turbulent month with a down day. the dow jones industrial average lost 222 points to close at 32,990. the nasdaq fell 39 points. the s&p 500 slid 26. for the month, the dow and s&p managed fractional gains. the nasdaq lost 2%. still to come, a former attorney for the clinton campaign is
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found not guilty of lying to the fbi. european leaders need to discuss another round of sanctions -- european leaders meet to discuss another round of sanctions targeting russian oil. >> this is "the pbs newshour" from weta studios in washington and in the west from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. judy: federal reserve chairman jerome powell is part of a white house push and at addressing the high inflation rate. sitke we house national counci. what can you tell us about the conversation between the president and chairman powell? >> well, they had a productive
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meeting. what the president communicated to the chairman was that he not only respects the independence of the federal reserve that he intends to honor it and give the federal reserve the space it needs to tackle inflation. the fed fed has a primary role in fighting inflation, and it is well on its way to do that, and the president wanted to be clear that unlike some of his predecessors, he was going to respect their independence. >> is that part of a strategy for the president to in effect shift responsibility to the fed for inflation? >> no, it is not about responsibility. it is about fighting inflation in a responsible way. the president laid out a plan. the first element of that is to give the fed the space it needs. importantly, that has not always been the case. that was not true with the prior president, and when you have a president that seeks to politicize the fed, you will gen
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steps that he can take and can work with congress to take to lower costs for families to try to make things more affordable for families during this transition and also to lower the federal deficit. we know if we lower the federal deficit, that will ease price pressures in the economy. this is about the president saying his top priority is tackling inflation. one of the things he can do is strengthen the independence of the fed rather than politicize it. judy:id the men also discuss other steps a president can take? we saw that "wall street journal" op-ed the president ote that him out today. he talked about supply chains and infrastructure. i'm asking because these things may be important in the long run. they are not intended to help inflation in the short one, though, are they? >> the meeting was broad ranging and talked about a range of topics including the current and
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future economic -- outlook, but when you talk about the types of steps intended to address the cost of gas at the pump as well as groceries, the president is focused on both steps we can take that are immediate and the steps that are medium-term, so something like releasing barrels from the strategic petroleum reserve -- that happens right away. the president has directed that happened now. something like directing farmers to grow more crops this year is something that would help to ease food prices right now, but you are absolutely right -- some of these steps are more medium-term, but the sooner we take them, the more impact we can have on the economy. building affordable housing will take months to do, but if we start now as the president directed, we will see more easing up housing prices over the course of the gear and into next. we are focused on the medium-term.
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judy: the average gas price is more than $4.60 a gallon. >> absolutely. the presidentnows that is on the minds of typical families as ey pull up to the gas pump, and it is creating anxieties as well. this is an unfortunate consequence of putin's decision to invade ukraine. you can see from when putin began amassing troops on the border of ukraine until now, the price of gas is up. the actions we have taken are focused on trying to keep putin from filling his war machine with revenues from oil and gas, but at the same time, we are trying to boost supplies outside of russia. that is what the strategic petroleum reserve is about a that's why the president is focused on this constant diplomacy of working with european allies and other oil-producing countries around the world. judy: as you know well, there
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are economists who were saying well over a year ago that inflation was looming and it was coming. one of those was former treasury secretary larry summers. is the white house -- is the president now acknowledging that he was late -- the white house was late to address inflation? >> i think if you look out on the global landscape right now, it is ear that inflation is a global problem. we saw inflation in the eurozone hit 8.1% last month. we saw in the u.k., inflation hit 9%, and that is because the principal drivers are a pandemic shutting the economy down now compounded by putin's invasion of ukraine. if you look around the globe, ee the united states s wyo actuuallyill well-positio address pricehad on because of the strength of oco etiur
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miwe do now have the tools to te on the price increases better. judy: would it have been better if the white house had seen this sooner? took, they helped to generate this historically strong recovery, and most analyst itit? aokhiedtinue tloo buasd on the historic gains?an
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noift. judy: thank you very much. >> thank you. ♪ the latest -- judy: the latest chapter in the ongoing investigation into the origins of the trump-pressurerobe came to an end today in what is considered a p defeat former president trum'''>> that's righ. a jury here in washington, lawyd chael osm shenan t to trial by special counsel john durham, who was appointed during the trump. former president trump long hoped durham would uncover behavior by officials who investigated him, his campaign, and alleged links to russia. for more on what today's
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acquittal was all about and what it means going forward, i'm joined again by carrie johnson, who covers the justice department for npr. great to see you again. this trial and the case itself was very complicated for those who look into it. you have been there all two weeks during the actual proceedings. can you give us a sissy and recap of what the charges were against him. >> i will do my best. this is a complicated case that boiled down to a single count of king false statements to the fbi in a meeting that the defendant had with then fbi general counsel jim baker in september 2016, just six weeks or so before the election. what the special counsel team were alleging is that sussman lied in order to get this meeting and told baker he was not appearing on behalf of a company or client but rather he wanted to bring allegations about strange links between the
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trump organization and a russian bank to the fbi out of the goodness of his heart because he was a good citizen. durham in fact argued to the jury that sussman was motivated for partisan political interests and wanted to use the fbi. that was the heart of this case. >> i see. sussman, his law firm, did represent the clinton campaign. he also represented a software executive, who that's how he heard about some of these alleged links, but this whole case does not sound necessarily at the core of what durham was principally charged with looking into, right? >> one john durham was appointed by then attorney general bill barr during the trump administration, it was a time when then president trump was talking a lot about the people who investigated shadowy allegations about the origins of the investigation, and durham was supposed to through all that
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bring to justice any fbi employees who engage in wrongdoing and also investigate members of the intelligence community who might have engaged in wrongdoing. in this case against michael sussman, the f vi was an alleged victim of sussman's life, not the perpetrator of the crime -- the fbi was an alleged victim of sussman's life -- lie up thi case in court at all? >> no, none of that ended up in this case in court. judge cooper told prospective jurors before the trial began that we were not going to
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relitigate the 2016 election. hillary clinton was not on trial. donald trump was not on trial. t wt juthhacte jurors a sickle ones we talked to outside the courtroom today -- that politics played no role in their deliberations, and that was not something they considered over the six hours they were behind closed doors thinking about this case. sre>>orrupt, -- our legal system is corrupt, our country is going to hell, and michael sussman is not guilty -- th last part sarcastic. >> carrie johnson of npr, always good to see you. thank you.
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>> my pleasure. judy: let's return now to the aftermath of the shootings in uvalde, texas, and some of the questions the country is grappling with. as we reported, there will be funerals and memorials for the victims over the next two weeks. as the communities and families grieve, many are asking about the police response on that day and what should be done next. >> over the weekend, the u.s. apartment of justice announced it is launching an investigation of the law enforcement response to the uvalde shooting. to learn more about why that is important, i'm joined by the professor at the harvard kennedy school of government and former assistant secretary at the department of homeland security. she is also author of a new book called "the devil never sleeps:
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learning to live in an age of disasters." thanks for being with us. this department of justice probe we think will start soon. why do we need it? what are some of the key questions they will try to answer? >> this is done by an office that deals with trainings and grants and best practices. what they essentially will do technically is just review what was the policy response and why did it seem to fail so miserably? police officers are well aware of what active shooter response is. we now know the best way to address and active shooter is to eliminate the threat, essentially shoot back and try to eliminate the threat. everything else can happen after that. there was clearly a breakdown in that protocol.
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was it a justifiable breakdown -- or what led to happen to this? we say in disaster management that the lessons are written on the headstones and that we have to listen to the dead, and i think that is really important right now, especially with 19 children dead and of course, also two teachers. each of them has a story to tell about what happened in that room, and it is incredibly palin a in the same place. g unfortunately, there will very likely be a next time. our standard in disaster management is -- could we have made things less bad? we do not pretend that a situation in which a person wants to shoot children in a classroom is in any way good,
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but could you have made it less bad? in the end, it is essential that we look at the public safety response, but we have already failed miserably are your children. we cannot lose sight of the real problem here, which is a gunman wanted to and successfully entered a classroom that would kill children that quickly, that horribly, just on a random day in america. >> the more we learn about the gunman, we saw that there were warning signs that were missed. when we talk about concrete steps, what kind of things could be done to avoid this happening again? >> national red flag laws that proved -- that permit family members to come forward and tell officials that a person is in troubl or may be a harm to society so that their guns are not accessible to them.
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it could be universal background checks or changing the age at which you can pchase weapons like ts from 18 to 21. these people live in communities. they are online and are expressing their desires. they are not hiding it. in the texas case, this is also true. we need people to feel confident to step forward, to understand these are not jokes, and to have social media platforms monitor this better, to know that how anyone can joke about this at this stage in american history is beyond question now. we need to come forward and assert agency over this kind of activity. otherwise, it is going to keep happening. >> thank. >> thank you. -- >> thank you. >> thank you. ♪ judy: the european union stepped
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up pressure on russia today by pledging to cut back on russian oil purchases, but the prospect of ending the war soon look grim as both sides look to punish each other. >> near the epicenter of russia's mom apartment, today's target -- an apartment building while residents slept. russians fired rockets overnight into residential neighborhoods. she wants to sh how lucky she was to survive. >> i was sleeping here and i was not impacted by the strike. i was probably born under a lucky star. >> her apartment shattered by russia's attempts to terrorize the population despite a common religion and language. independent researchers say the donetsk region could soon face a new russian ground advance.
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on state tv, pro-russian separatists showed off their handiwork and removed flags left behind by ukrainian soldiers who recently were treated along with some of their american weapons. ukraine has been using aoviet era multiple launch rocket system and pleading for the american version. u.s. officials tell pbs "newshour" that is under investigation but president biden said yesterday he would not provide the longest range version. today in kyiv at a press conference with slovakia's president, ukrainian president zelenskyy criticized what he called a shortage of weapons. >> our plans are clear. we will de-occupy our entire territory which historically belongs to us and in accordance with all international laws. this is our plan. >> the plan in brussels and the
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european summit finalized a deal to limit russian oil imports. today's deal exempts those pipeli deliveries after a compromise demanded by hungary where 65 percent ofll oil is russian. hungary's prime minister said he fended off the demand to ban all russian oil. the debate in europe over russian energy extends the definition of victory in crane. earlier this month, french president macron said it would take decades for ukraine to joi the european union, and russian priorities would need to be considered. >> in the future, we will have to build peace. let's never forget that. we will have to do that with both ukraine and russia sitting around the table. >> former secretary of state henry kissinger even urged
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ukraine to cede territory occupied by russia since 2014. >> [indiscernible] >> the most eastern european countries disagree. poland's president told ukraine's parliament, don't give one inch. >> if ukraine is sacrificed for calmness for political and visions -- ambitions even a centimeter territory, it will be a huge blow not only for the nation but for the entire western world. >> for more on what victory in ukraine should look like and today's sanctions in russia, we turn to a member of the european parliamentho has held a numr of senior positions in ukraine's government. welcome. what is your response to europe's steps today to ban all sea-based oil coming into europe
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after a compromise with hungary. >> i would not call it a compromise. hungary has simply use his veto power to extract a concession which i think will be used to make money. hungary actually has a pipeline to the adriatic sea and could import its oil from there, but it chooses to import it from vladimir putin. it is another sign of hungary breaking eu's and nato's solidarity on this war. >> is victor or bun being honest when he says his opposition to the plan is avoiding oil that would be more expensive for his citizens to play -- to pay? >> no, he is right. they will be a price for the sanctions, but the point is it is better to pay this price rather than have pressure on the eu border in a few weeks or a few months' time.
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instead of rallying with allies to stop an aggressive dictator, he is playing with them. >> we just heard from henry kissinger nonstop most that -- henry kissinger in davo's. in response, it was said that kissinger's response is not 2022 but 1938. is the message akin to appeasing hitler's in world war ii? >> in munich, remember czechoslovakia was threaned, and it was hoped the concession was -- this concession would satisfy hitler's and he would then stop. we know what happened. henry should have given this advice in private, and also, i
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think he is wrong -- wrong on substance. if putin gets the donbas like he got crimea before, he will then rebuild his army and go on the offensive again to try to get the rest of ukraine. what his plan is is crystal clear from his statements. he wants to extinguh ukraine as a state and as a people. >> the counter argument i speak to ukrainian officials about even is that the ukrainian army will struggle to re-seize territory russia has occupied since 2014 and if it is inevitable russia will hold some territory in ukraine, why not accept that now rather than later? >> if ukrainian politicians make this judgment, that is their right. it is their country and their people who are being murdered, raped, and taken to russia.
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those are painful decisions for any democratic government to make, but it is not up to us to be forcing ukraine into those concessions. we should be helping a democracy that has been attacked to defend itself. >> another argument to what you're saying is that the more heavy weapons the west provides two ukraine, the more it could escalate and lead to a possible conflict between the west and russia itself. >> if russia does not want to be hit by western weapons, there is a simple thing she could do -- withdraw from ukraine. >> u.s. officials tell me specifically on weapons they are considering providing ukraine multiple launch rocket systems, including the more mobile heimer system. president biden specifically ruled out some of the longer-range versions of those weapons because he says they could reach into russia.
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what is your response to that? >> i think that is prudent. we don't want to make it into a war with russia. we want to help ukraine defend its own territory. i think that is the right course. the nato ministerial has said that our aim is to chase the russians out of ukraine and not a step further. >> ukrainians say they cannot chase the russians out of ukraine without those longer-range weapons. >> let's start with the launchers. what kind of ammo you supply is a secondary decision. >> finally, in the time you have left, how do you see this war ending? >> it will end when the russians run out of missiles and when president putin and his circle conclude that reviving the empire is too costly in men and
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treasure, but we are not at that point yet. >> so this war will last a long time? >> it will last as long as russians think they have the god-given right to dominate and conquer neighboring countries. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. judy: myelin is known for her memorials, her architecture, her art. a new project adds a very personal side to her story and those of millions of other asian americans as the museum of chinese in arica seeks to expand its own presence and expand understanding of the american experience. jeffrey brown reports for our arts and culture series canvas. >> basically, it is a vertical landscape. it will start with stone at the
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base. >> she shows the design for a major new expansion of the museum of chinese in america. is this the puzzle? >> this is the puzzle. a tanker -- a tangram is a 14,000-year-old chinese puzzle that i played as a kid. >> the design may be playful, but the purpose of the museum itself she says could not be more important, especially now. >> i don't think you can be an asian american in 20 and not be acutely aware of the anti-asian sentiment, and i think all these are one of the reasons we have doubled down on trying to be part of moca.
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>> the museum of chinese in america is a small instituti that presents moments from more than 250 years. waves of immigration, biased discrimination and exclusion, images from popular culture, immigration into american life and the struggle for civil rights. there's also a law featuring stories of prominent chinese-americans. for the museum president, this is very much living history. >> the phrase "perpetual foreigner" has been connected with chinese in america and broadly asians in america. >> meaning? >> meaning my face will never be american enough to some people. it looks to foreign. we are constantly dealing with the pressure, the tension of being this perpetual foreigner and also being a monolith, not
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just chinese-americans, but asian americans in this country. if you think about the chinese immigration patterns to this country, you cannot find a more diverse group. >> an exhibition titled "responses" addresses the current moment of the rise in violence against asian americans. >> it grounds the moment in 250 years of racism and discrimination. what we are trying to do is make ose individuals to understand this has been going on for quite a long time, and it will take more than just protests and collective voice. it is going to take rewriting textbooks. it will take going into classes at a very early age. not to say one is better than the other, but really encouraged the broadening of the american narrative to reflect the true stories.
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>> lin grew up in what she calls the soul chinese family in athens, ohio. her family that her parents came from china in the 1940's, and she did not think much about it, but that will change dramatically in the first moment she came to public notice as the 21-year-old designer of the vietnam memorial. it faced early opposition, some of it virulent and focused on lin herself. some of that was around you being asian american. >> absolutely. the veterans were very careful to protect me from some of the "how could you let a gook design this" type of letters. i was just so sure that it was all about what you do and how
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you do it. >> many years later, she says designing this museum feels important. at an estimated cost of $118 million to be raised from government foundations and private donors, moca will feature historical exhibitions, contemporary art and culture, a performing arts space, and a genealogy center. >> you kind of want to share all those stories, teach those stories, but also celebrate how much we have contributed to and help build our country because i'm an american. i think is it's interesting because it is like i'm chinese-american, but it's more like i'm american chinese. i was born here. raise here. my cultural heritage, my parents brought a lot from china, but they also choose to come from america, and i think that is important. >> the moca president thinks the
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exhibition will be critical. >> i know my surname. it is yao. when people come here and say where is your old home, and they just say china, there's no pride. it is almost as if the chinese identity has been devalued, and i think what we are creating for in this country, for asian americans is a greater sense of identity. in that identity we think needs to be rooted in history. >> the expansion still faces challenges including protests by a group of chinatown activists who say money given by the city to purchase the museum, some $40 million, could be better used two help local small businesses and others hurt in the pandemic. that fight within the chinatown community is likely to continue.
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>> this is the front entry, both during the day renred and then at night so you can begin to see how the museum will really be welcoming. >>or her part, maia lin is staying focused on her part. >> you can definitely send messages. the message here is we are here. we want to share with the community. >> the plan now to close the current building late next year and open the new museum of chinese in america in 2025. judy: finally tonight, one of college basketball's most successful coaches on his almost 50-year career.
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i sat down with recently retired duke coach mike krzyzewski, knowno many fans as coach k. a college basketball legend has hung up his whistle. duke men's coach mike krzyzewski retired this season as the winningest coach of all time after a 47-year career. >> when you are going, you take a quick look at him and if you don't get it, get back up there. >> he came from humble roots, raised in chicago in a polish american catholic family. his mother emily encouraged him to attend west point where he was a standout basketball player under head coach bobby knight. he served in the army before coaching his alma mater. from there, krzyweski went to duke where for 32 years, he was a force in the college game. he set the ncaa record for all
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wins. he also led the u.s. national basketball team, winning three olympic gois side, his wife mickey, their three daughters, and 10 grandchildren. i met mike krzyzewski in his office at duke for an exclusive conversation about his life and legacy. mike krzyzewski, i try to be a fair reporter always, but i have to say being here at duke, my alma mater, with the chance to talk to you, it is a real treat. thank you. >> thank you. judy: this is a big change for you after coaching for almost five decades. >> it has sunk in but in a good way. since i was 16, i wanted to be a coach. i love it. sometimes to do something you love, you have to do things you don't like to get it done, and think i would still like to
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coach, but i was not willing to put all the time and effort of all the recruiting and rapidity of it got too much. i think 47 years is pretty good. judy: coach k's office is a museum of mementos. from the army -- >> i did serve. i was never in combat. i was an artillery officer. judy: there are keepsakes from those five national championships and the u.s. national team wins. >> people say, what's the greatest moment. it is that. judy: more than any duke when? >> that's not to minimize, but this is the world. judy: photos from fans. >> i have three groups of nuns around the united states that i write to. they pray for you. they say rosaries. judy: and family photos. >> my brother who passed was a
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captain in the chicago fire department, and my mom probably had the most influee of anyone in my life. judy: and of course, his wife. married 52 years. she has been in on all major decisions you have a in your life. >> a lot of people say it is the coach, but it is the family that makes the decisions. i was blessed to have her and my three daughters, and i learned sometimes the hard way the wisdom of a woman and the way she looks at things and my daughters do, that has helped me immensely grow, and change along the years. judy: i have heard it said that among your many qualities, mike krzyzewski can be stubborn. >> kyiv, i'm stubborn, but i'm also very flexible when i hear a better solution. it does not have to be my idea. in fact, in the mid-19's, i changed my leadership style a lot because i have been kind of
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a micromanager. maybe i was too stubborn then up until the mid-1990's, but after then, i had some health issues, physical and mental health issues in the mid-1990's, and i got through that, and it helped me immensely. judy: and you have been open about that. >> yeah. >> you have talked openly about that because you think it helps others who may be going through similar challenges. >> it is human. so many people who have problems physical and mental. in the old days, people would say you are crazy. i'm not crazy. i'm crazy if i don't help. i had no feeling during that time. maybe the greatest man i have ever known who was president at the time helped me. he worked with me for three or four months, and thank goodness i was around good people again.
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judy: she sheskey spent more than four decades here at cameron indoor stadium. the court is even named after him. we walked out on the floor he spent so much time on. what does this place mean to you? >> once we started going, every home game when i walked out here, i knew our crowd would be ready. it was a rush. judy: should sheskey thinks the pressure got to his team in his last home game here -- krzyweski thinks the pressure got to his team in his last home game here. >> they were terrific. one of my closest teams. i thought everything got really big for them. judy: coach k is stepping off the court at a time of flux for college athletics. what do youhink the state of college basketball is right now? >> it is in chaos, really. college sports. because of the ncaa not evolving
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and not adapting over the years to where now the old way of doing it and being structured, it has not worked. it is a business, and things like the in il -- nil have opened that up, and the ncaa is not equipped to handle it. it has to restructure to figure out how you put like people, like institutions in certain places to govern themselves and maybe come under one total umbrella concerning certain roles. judy: nil -- names images, and licenses. it has begun to change. >> the horse has left the barn or whatever those sayings are, it has left for the world. judy: you have the argument that it allows teams that are doing
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well to reap some rewards, but then you have the other argument that it is turning college athletics into a profession. >> that is because it has not been something that evolved. in the early 1990's, our players could go out and speak and make money at camps or whatever. really, it was name, image, and likeness, and the ncaa put the kebab -- the kibosh on it, and that was it. imagine if in 1993 they did not do that and the iterations occurred and they were adapting. today, you would learn how to control that and govern that. when it all hits you like a tsunami, it is not going to work. judy: in addition to that, you halve the hole -- you have the whole transfer portal issue, the idea that transfer -- that players can transfer to another
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school -- >> without sitting out. judy: and immediately play for another school. what does that mean? >> it is chaotic. basically we don't have any leadership right now and we have not a long time. the lack of leadership and adapting over the decades has caught up to us. it knocked on the door and said, you know what? you all are really behind. it is time to build a new house. judy: can youe part of figuring that out? >> are more than happy to talk to someone, but that's not what i'm going to spend the rest of my life doing. i would like to know who is leading before i do anything. it has been very frustrating for me and for a number of coaches over the years to give up so much time in ad hoc meetings or whatever to try to influence
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change because it went nowhere. so i don't want to be involved anymore in anything where it is not going someplace. i want my bus to go someplace. judy: players now if they are starved as freshmen can earn a lot of money. are you comfortable with that? >> it is the way it is. it is not going to change. we have to make that work well. judy: some people say what is going on in college basketball is there's just too much money. >> do you realizeuch we raise for the school? ow m hbesides making money, evey capital campaign, when it is a $3 billion, $2 billion campaign, sports is a big part of the marketing structure to make that happen, so, yeah, we make money, but we make money for everybody.
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judy: one other big area i want to raise is international sports. you coached the olympic team. teams of countries that played against other countries. does it matter if you are playing against a team, like russia right now with what is going on in ukraine? >> when there has been a world war, there are no olympics. personally, i would not do anything with them, but that's in the next room where it happens, not my room. judy: she sheskey -- krzyweski has never shied away from voicing his opinions. in 2020 when the murder of george floyd rocked the nation, he released a video statement after a series of conversations with his current and former players. >> black lives matter. we should be saying it every day. it is not political. this is not a political
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statement. it is a human rights statement. judy: do you think college sports have done as much as much as it could have two address systemic racism? we all agree there is systemic racism. >> i think it has done a rlly good job, especially in providing opportunities -- you know, sport has given people -- youngsters who did not have the economic ability to go to a college to go to college in so many sports, and title ix for women has been helping in that regard. judy: how do you think we're doing in the rest of the country ? >> we are not doing enough. why does one part of congress sit on this side and the others sit on that side? my thing is two is better than one if two can act as one. it would be a hell of a lot
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better country if two can act as one, and that is not the case and both are at fault. judy: one of the issues is if the 2020 election was fairly decided are not. >> that's crazy. to me, that's nuts. everyone in our country should have the ability to vote in the easiest possible manner. judy: and yet, there are active efforts right now to make it harder. >> crazy. i think that's nuts. judy: every corner of krzyweski's office is a living monument to a man who achieved success through dedication and structure. >> that's the price you have to pay. every night before practice, i would write out a practice plan. i probably have written 5000
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practice plans. judy: now for the first time in nearly half a century, his entire routine will change. as you sit back or sit forward at this stage of your life in your career, what do you take with you right now? >> for my whole career, i was a car that never had a rearview mirror. once i did something, it was done. no regrets, gave it my best. is that going to bother you? you know what? it doesn't make any difference. now i have reflected some, but not so much about games. for me, it has been very emotional but very gratifying in not remembering that we won a national championship or lost our last game or whatever, but what matters is people. we have had a tremendous impact
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on people during the almost five decades we have coached. judy: still no regrets? >> i have no regrets. for youngsters, there are two things i ride along. always try your best. to me, you are a winner if you always try your best. the others follow your heart and the pursuit of your dreams. i have done both, and i have been a lucky guy. judy: mike krzyzewski, a lucky guy, thank you very much. >> you are welcome. it is my pleasure. judy: we were glad to have that conversation, and he says he is taking his time to figure out that he is going to do next. online right now, people laid off the lawnmower across the nation for no mow may.
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