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judy: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the "newshour" tonight -- >> it was un-american. we were watching the capitol building get defaced over a lie. judy: a key witness, a top aide to former president trump's chief of staff testifies that the former president encouraged january 6th protestors to march to the capitol, knowing they had weapons and he tried to join them. then, tragedy in texas, dozens of migrants perish after being locked in a tractor trailer in scorching heat, the deadliest human smuggling accident in the u.s. in modern memory. and, the end of roe, the supreme court's decision to restrict reproductive rights forces women
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judy: the congressional committee investigating the january 6th attack on the u.s. capitol today held a quickly scheduled hearing, its sixth this month, to present new and "urgent" evidence about what former president donald trump knew and said before, during and after the insurrection. cassidy hutchinson, a former aide to white house chief of staff mark meadows presented the most compelling and detailed account yet of the actions of the former president's inner circle. and she shared her reaction as she watched the events of january 6. >> i remember feeling frustrated, did it it really it felt personal. i was really sad. as an american, i was disgusted. it was unpatriotic. it was unamerican. we were watching capitol building get defaced over a lie.
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judy: today was the first time she publicly appeared before the committee, but she has spoken several time from behind closed doors. in video from those depositions, hutchinson explained that trump knew some members of the crowd were armed with weapons because he grew frustrated about the secret service security procedures, specifically the metal detectors, making the crowd at his january 6 speech smaller than he wanted. >> he wanted it full and he was angry that we weren't letting peoplehrough the mags with weapons. i was in the vicinity of a conversation where i overheard the president say something to the effect of, i don't care that they have weapons. they're not here to hurt me. take the effing mags away, let my people in. they can march to the capital from here. let the people in, take the effing mags away. judy: our congressional correspondent li desjardins and white house correspondent laura barron-lopez have been following the hearings today and join me now.
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laura, let me begin with you. cassidy hutchinson, not a name we are familiar with, but she was at the center of so much of what was going on at the white house. how did she fill in the timeline of what took place? >> cassidy hutchinson has worke for republicans for a very long time and she was in deadly contact with her boss, mark meadows, as well as a lot of other senior white house officials throughout her time in the white house and leading up to january 6. she testified that on multiple occasions there were warnings and raised concerns about thres of violence and on that day she said that she overheard rudy giuliani, president trump's lawyer, talking about proud boys and oath keepers being president at the events today. she also gave very important testimony about an exchange that she had with pat cipollone he, white house counsel to president trump, and in that exchange, he
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told hutchinson on january 3 that he was really worried about legal concerns that the white house could face if president trump decided to go to the capitol on january 6. making a movement that would be very logistically difficult, and he also warned her again on the morning of january 6. here's what cipollone said to hutchinson. >> and we understand, ms. hutchinson, that you also spoke to mr. cipollone on the morning of the 6th, as you were about to go tthe rally on the ellipse, and mr. cipollone said something to you like, make sure the movement to the capitol does not happen. is that correct? >> that is corct. i saw mr. cipollone right before i walked out onto the west exec that morning, and mr. cipollone said something to the effect of: please make sure we don't go up to the capitol cassidy, keep in touch with me, we're going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen.
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>> that exchange that hutchinson recalled was new, we had never heard that before, and also the specific crimes that cipollone was talking about. he told hutchinson he thought they could face obstruction of proceeding charges as well as defrauding of electors charges him and still come the spot all of those warnings, the president wanted to go to the capitol and urged his staff to make it possible for him. judy: laura, cassidy hutchinson testified about how she traveled with the president's motorcade to the rally that was taking place on the morning of january 6, and she also testified about the president's reaction when he learned that a number of the people at that rally or in that area were carrying weapons. >> that's right, as you mentioned earlier, judy, the president was really upset that his supporters were not being allowed into where his speech was at, which is the ellipse,
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which is right outside of the white house. and it was because they had weapons, they had knives, they had other very dangerous paraphernalia on them, and the president said, let them through , they aren't going to hurt me. and that he was pretty much dismissing threats of violence. after his speech at that stop the steal rally with his supporters, the president and went to go get into his motorcade, into the vehicle that we called the beast, and when he got in, he got in with robert ingle, who was his top secret service agent that day, and he was under the impression that he was going to be able to go from that speech to the capitol along with his supporters. when he was told by robert ingle that he was not going to be able to do that due to resources, here is how the president reacted. >> the president had very strong, very angry response to that.
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tony described him as being irate. the president said something to the effect of i'm the f-ing president. take me up to the capitol now. to which bobby responded, sir, we have to go back to the west wing. the president reached up towar the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. mr. engel grabbed his arm, said sir, you need to take off the steering wheel. we're going back to the west wing. we're not going to the capitol. mr. trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby angle and when mr renada recounted the story to me he had motion towards his clavicles. >> hutchinson was told that exchange about that episode in the beast by anthony arenado he was then deputy chief of staff to the president, and she said that she was told that when they
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return to the white house, because again, she was in the motorcade with the president throughout the day when he went to the speech and when he came back to the white house from the speech. she said that when she was told that robert ingle was standing in the room, the secret service agent with the president, he did not refute anything that was said in that episode. as the day went on, rioters broke into the capitol and we all watched as they started to descend into the senate, and hutchinson said that at that point, she witnessed pat cipollone, white house counsel to the president, confront mark meadows, chief of staff, and then cipollone was very concerned because we were starting to hear chants about hanging vice president mike pence. here's what cipollone said to meadows. >> i remember pat saying we need to do something more, they are
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literally calling for the bias -- vice president to be hung. he responded something to the effect that, you heard it, pat, he doesn't think they're doing anything wrong. >> we heard all the warning signs and all the concerns about what would happen on january 6 and that the president appeared to be dismissing the threats of violence, not just to members of congress but also to his vice president. judy: i will have lisa pick it up from here. when it comes to the president's then chief of staff, mark meadows, we did learn more today about his role in all of this. lisa: a lot of names here, but central is mark meadows. in his own history, mark meadows came to congress with -- as it -- with a member from north carolina.
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in 2015 he formed the freedom caucus with congressman jim jordan and then in 2020, he beheaded -- he became the chief of staff to president trump. a central figure, and what we heard described today in testimony was a picture of a chief of staff who was not acting to the degree to which it almost seemed there was a passiveness that may have bordered on permissiveness in what was going on in the white house's oval office. on january 2 in particular, cassidy hutchinson described a conversation with rudy giuliani. he brought up plans for january 6 in a way that really got on her radar like never before. she walked back into the white house and she was asks today, did she then talked to mark meadows, her boss, about what she heard from giuliani. here is her response. >> yes, i went back up to our office and found mr. meadows in his office on the couch. scrolling through the phone, i remember leaning against the
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door and saying i had an interesting conversation with rudy, mark, it sounds like we are going to capitol. he didn't lookup from phone, and said something to the effect of, there's a lot going on cass, i don't know, things might get real real bad on jan 6. that evening was the first moment i remember feeling scared and nervous for what could happen around january 6th. lisa: fast-forward to january 6, and she said her boss was unresponsive to her pleas to pay attention to what was going on at the capitol. she recounted this moment when pat cipollone reached out to meadows to try to get the president more involved. here's part of that conversation. >> the rioters have gotten into the capitol, mark. we need to go down and see the
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and mark looked up at him and president now. and mark looked up at him and said: he doesn't want to do anything, pat. and pat said something to the effect of, and very clearly, said this to mark, something to the effect of: mark, something needs to be done, or people are going to die and the blood's going to be on your effing hands. this is getting out of control, i'm going down there. lisa: just extraordinary testimony. we also heard today from hutchinson that meadows himself asked for a pardon. we reached out to his attorneys for response to all of this and we have not heard back yet. judy: there was literally one explosive disclosure after another. anything else you would add that was noteworthy in the way of accusations, and how are the former president and the others around him responding to all of this? lisa: some republicans have reacted with texts with a similar exclamation point. the president has in fact been
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responding today. here are some of the quotes he has put out on social media. he sai of hutchinson, i hardly know who this person is. he said it's a fake story that he reach out and assaulted a security a peer he also said there is no cross-examination for this so call witness, this is a kangaroo court. in the past president -- former president trump has disassociated himself and said he does not know people that we know he has been associated with in the past. we presented a lot of reporting, it's easy to get lost in it. we want to summarize what we've learned today overall. first that president trump knew about weapons here in washington dc and the chance for violence from the crowd as it was getting ready to go to the capitol, and then he himself wanted to march into the capitol with the crowd. the other accusation is that he assaulted the security chief sworn to take him because he wanted to take over and get
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himself to the capi accusation s important, witness tampering. the committee said they now have messages from trump allies two witnesses saying that they are sure they will be loyal. that of course is also a potential federal crime. with all of this, what we are seeing is the committee with more evidence of criminal cases that still remains in the hands ofhe department of justice. or hearings are ahead, but we don't know when. judy: they have pointed to hearings upcoming with more information to be disclosed. lisa and laura, we thank you both. joining me to further unpack what we learned today are andrea bernstein, co-host of the 'will be wild' podcast, examining the events leading up to and through january 6th. she's also a regular npr contributor. and jamil jaffer, a law professor at george mason university and former associate counsel to president george w.
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bush. welcome to both of you. there were so many disclosures and bits of new information today, it's hard to know even where to begin, but as you look at it all, andrea bernstein, what is standing out most to you? andrea: what we began to see today was a connection between trump and the violent activity that happened on january 6. what we've known so far is that he pressured his justice department to try to overturn state electors, that he pressured mike pence, that he pressured state legislators and state local officials, but what we heard today was a knowledge of president trump that people in the crowd before hand had weapons, flagpoles tipped with spears, body armor, pepper spray, bear spray, that they could not get into see him because they did not want to lay down their weapons. and even with that, he went out in front of them and said fight
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like hell, we are going to go to the capitol, i will be there with you. one of the things we learned is that at the time he really did believe he was going to the capitol at the secret service team did not let him go. what is emerging is the sense that this violence was understood by the president. rudy giuliani was saying as early as january 2 that somethg was going to happen on january 6. what this does is move us closer to the question of was president trump, what did he know about the planned violence? we don't know all of it, but we know that he knew there was a weaponized, riled up crowd, and that he himself was extremely riled up when he made that speech. judy: what is standing out the most for you? jamil: andrea is exactly right. the idea that the president knew the crowd was armed, was not worried that they were going to
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target or threaten him, but that they were planning to march to the capitol and was supportive of that and called on them to do it. that is pretty shocking direct evidence. on top of that, you add the fact that after the fact, when pat cipollone comes into the oval office with mark meadows and they leave and they are discussing what happen, and mark meadows is saying to cipollone, the president thinks mike pence deserves this, the chants of people saying hang mike pence, that he deserved it. it's just shocking that we don't see more congressional republicans today running fast away from donald trump, because it is just shocking and astounding what we heard today. judy: andrea bernstein, how surprising is it that a number of white house key people, including pat cipollone, were concerned in the hours and days leading up to january 6 about
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what happened? andrea: i think we've had some inkling of this. we know for example thapat cipollone was one of the people who did not want trump to replace his acting attorney general with another acting attorney general. so there has been an indication that there was concern around the white house. what is different today is we had direct testimony from white house aide, a young woman coming before this committee and most of the witnesses have been older men. there she is saying under oath, and obviously lying to congress is a felony, and she went up there and she spoke the truth, and we saw people like former general mike flynn, who had been convicted of lying to the fbi previously for trump pardoned him, taking the fifth amendment and even answering the question about whether he thought blocking the peaceful transfer of power was a crime. so that contrast was stark
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today, and having that eyewitness testimony really took us further into understanding what was going on in the white house up to and on january 6. judy: such a sharp contrast, you're absolutely right. jamil, what about in terms of evidence we heard today that legally incratamil: we have alwn that as a legal matter, there are some challenges in bringing a case against former president, particularly about evidence relating to politics and elections alike. there would be problems of the justice department being accused of being political. what is interesting is what happen right at the end of the hearing, or you had trump people calling potential witnesses before congress and saying the president knows you are loyal, he is thinking of you today. this is something you see literally in good fellows or
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casino, straight out of a mafia don mie. that may not be the actions of the president, but potentially the actions of his aides, who said these things, and maybe all the way up to the president, threatening witnesses before congress, that is a crime and that may be the place congress goes. i think it will be a lot harder for them to get a lot of these other charges against the president, obstruction charges, much more difficult to prove in the context of an ongoing election of a sitting president at the time. judy: what about that, andrea bernstein? you've talked to a lot of people around us. what are you hearing about whether brett -- the former president could speak about this? andrea: his own white house counsel thought he would be in serious legal jeopardy if he went to the capitol. he was warned that he could be
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charged with it obstruction of an official proceeding, but it is quite stark that the white house lawyer told the president that the white house lawyer warned the chief of staff the president could have blood on his hands. that is the man who in the president's first impeachment essentially blocked all of his participation coming from the white house. this is someone who is very loyal to trump who was saying these things at the end of the day. so i think there is concern there. at the very end of the hearing, the dramatic finale was when representative cheney asked cassidy hutchinson weather meadows asked for a pardon, and she said yes, he did. then the curtain dropped on her testimony. there was a very strong sense that he thought he had done something wrong. now we have this break in the hearings, presumably that is left ringing in the air for all
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of us to hear, and for the justice department to think about as well, about bringing charges to the president. judy: the fact that some of what kassidy hutchinson testified was hearsay, what she heard other people describe. how does that hold up compared to what we heard from the witness? >> it certainly was hearsay, but at the end of the day, she was a fact witness to a lot of what happened. she saw a lot of what happened, she heard the president speak. unless they refute what kassidy hutchinson said, i think the story sticks, and it is a real, real problem for the president and for republicans who seek to back the president in a further election or the like. judy: we thank you both. ♪
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judy: in the day's other news, the death toll rose to 51 in a migrant smuggling horror story in texas. they were found monday evening, packed into a tractor-trailer rig parked i san antonio. temperatures were near 100 degrees. president biden called it horrifying and heartbreaking. we'll get details, after the news summary. there's more fallout from the supreme court decision overturning roe versus wade. a texas judge today blocked a 1925 law that banned nearly all abortions. a federal appeals court allowed a tennessee ban after 6 weeks of pregnancy. meanwhile, the u.s. secretary of health and human services said he'll consider all options for abortion access, if they pass legal muster. >> we're not interested in going rogue and doing things just because. and so, to every american who's impacted, my apologies, that as i said we can't tell you there' a silver bullet.
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judy: one option could be setting up abortion clinics on federal land, but the white house warned patients and providers would still be prosecuted under state laws. it is primary night again, with elections in 6 states and several marquee races. republican tina peters is running to be colorado's top elections official. she's been indicted for election fraud and rejects the 2020 election results. and, new york's democratic governor kathy hochul faces p challenges after stepping inrima when andrew cuomo resigned. advisers to the fda are recommending that "covid" vaccines be tweaked to match the highly contagious omicron variants. the panel voted today for adding new protections to updated boosters this fall. the recommendation now goes to the full fda.
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in central ukraine, rescuers kept digging today in the ruins of a burned-out shopping mall hit by russian missiles. firefighters cleared rubble from monday's attack that killed at least 18 people, with 21 still missing. but ukraine's interior minister said no one could have survived the intense heat. >> we can now say for sure there are no living people remaining. at such temperatures, bodies can burn out completely. so, we can't rule out that a certain amount of people, remains, will be recovered only after the site is completely cleared. judy: meanwhile, the group of democracies pledged to support seven ukraine for as long as it takes. and, significantly, turkey dropped its opposition to letting sweden and finland join the nato alliance as alliance leaders convened in spain. we'll return to all of this, later in the program. the united nations now says the first decade of syria's civil war killed more than 300,000 civilians. it's the highest official estimate yet, but it does not include thousands
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who died from lack of health care or food. syria's war began in 2011. a court in germany has convicted a former nazi concentration camp guard of more than 3,500 counts of accessory to murder. the defendant, identified only as "joseph s.", is 101 years old. he entered court today in a wheelchair, hiding his face with a blue folder. the granddaughter of a prisoner at the sacksen-hausen camp welcomed the outcome. >> i think it's really important that, my generation and the future generation, that there will no longer be direct witnesses of this history, that we keep on this memory. judy: the suspect was sentenced to five years in prison. back in this country, a federal court in new york sentenced ghislaine maxwell to 20 years in prison for steering young girls to jeffrey epstein, for sexual abuse. the british socialite told the
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court that meeting the financier was the greatest regret of her life. epstein died of suicide in 2019. suspected hate crimes in california have hit their highest level since after 911. the state says there were nearly 1,800 reported incidents last year, up 33% from a year earlier. reports involving asian americans jumped nearly 200%. incidents involving sexual orientation rose nearly 50%. michigan's supreme court today ordered indictments dismissed against former state officials, in the flint water scandal. ex-governor rick snyder had faced misdemeanor counts in the lead-contamination crisis. issu the indictments, without using a grand jury. and on wall street, a sharp drop in consumer confidence pushed stock indexes down --
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1.5% to 3%. the dow jones industrial average lost 491 points. the nasdaq fell 343 points. the s&p 500 slipped 78. still to come on the "newshour", clinics ramp up aid for women seeking abortions across state lines after the supreme court decision overturning roe v. wade. the u.s. ambassador to nato discusses a critical summit at a time of uncertainty in europe plus much more. >> this is the pbs newshour from w eta studios in washington, from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. judy: the governments of both the u.s. and mexico are now investigating the deadliest human smuggling case in modern u.s. history. at least 51 people died after they were trapped in a sweltering tractor-trailer abandoned on the outskirts of san antonio.
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authorities are still working to identify the victims. stephanie sy has more. stephanie: it was a worker in the area who heard the cries for help and found the tractor trailer, doors partially open, and inside, people piled on top of each other. bodies were also found strewn along the road near the scene. more than a dozen other victims, including several children, were taken to the hospital. >> the patients that we saw were hot to the touch. they were suffering from heat stroke, heat exhaustion. no signs of water in the vehicle. it was a refrigerated tractor trailer, but there was no visible working ac unit on that rig. stephanie the heat index was : more than 100 degrees in san antonio on monday afternoon. authorities believe human traffickers were transporting the migrants. among the victims were 22 citizens of mexico, 7 from guatemala, and two from
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honduras. the president of mexico, andres manuel lopez obrador commented on the tragedy. >> these unfortunate events have to do with the situation of poverty and desperation of our central american and mexican brothers and sisters. it happens because there is also human trafficking and lack of controls at the border between mexico and the united states and inside the united states. stephanie: recent months have seen a record high number of attempted crossings from mexico. in may alone, us customs and border patrol agents encountered more than 230,000 migrants making multiple border crossing attempts, even as a covid public health ord remains in place, essentially banning migrants. the biden administration has attempted to lift the title 42 restrictions, but a federal judge blocked its repeal. san antonio mayor ron nirenberg called for compassion. >> so the plight of migrants seeking refuge is always a humanitarian crisis.
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but tonight we are dealing with a horrific human tragedy. stephanie: customs enforcement has detained three people believed to be part of the smuggling conspiracy. for more on the context in which these migrant deaths occured, let's turn to the policy director at the american immigration counsel. thank you for joining the newshour. anyone who has been in the southwest in the summer knows the heat be deadly, and being inside an un-air conditioned tractor-trailer truck, it is just hard to imagine how high the temperatures got in there. why would anyone take that risk, much less with children? >> many migrants are taking this risk because they feel there is no other way for them to get into the united states. even the children, when he of whom are trying to join family members in the united states, find that they really have no other options in order to come
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to this country. so smugglers convinced him to take routes that are inherently dangerous. stephanie: thiss happened before and we see it again this year. apparently 290 migrants have died trying to cross the southern border dust in the first six-month of this year. officials are reporting a record number of attempted crossings at the southern border since the may. main trump-era policies that were meant to deter migration during the pandemic are still in place, despite the biden administration's attempts to get rid of them, so the conditions are pretty much the same--how do those policies contribute to people continuing to try to cross this way? >> what we have seen is that title 42 is still in place, and for individuals who are from mexico, guatemala, honduras, and el salvador, nearly all of those migrants, especially those single adults caught crossing the border are rapidly expelled back to mexico.
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that leads people to attempt to cross over and over again, trying to get through without being detected. unfounately, every time a person crosses the border like that, they're rolling the dice and taking a chance that tragedy might occur. and unfortunately, what we saw yesterday is one of the worst tragedies of its kind. stephanie: a federal judge has locked biden administration's ability to repeal title 42, but texas governor greg abbott is blaming president biden saying , the deaths are a result of open border policies and a refusal to enforce the law. but you have demcrats on the other side saying it's because of trump's closed border policies so how do we make sense of all of this? >> no person gets in a crowded truck and puts their life at risk if the border is open. the reality is that for the migrants in that truck, there was no way for them to come into
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the united states legally, even if they were attempting to seek asylum. since march of 2020, the ports of entry have been shut to asylum-seekers and for those in the northern triangle countries, there really is no way to access the asylum process or to migrate legally. the reality is, the vast majority of people who come to our border and seek a better life have no legal ways to enter. over the last 30 years, we have made the border harder and harder to cross in the safe locations, which has driven people into more and more dangerous routes. 2021 was that was dangerous year on record at the border, and 2022 is going to be even worse. stephanie: and you have people like abbott's gubernatorial opponent former congressman beto o'rourke said there need to be expanded avenues for legal given the scope of this tragedy, migration. given the scope of this tragedy, with more than 50 people dead do
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n , yoinu gtsee ?that comin a do you see the prioritizing that more? >> the biden administration has said that it wants to expand pathways for legal migration and to address the root causes that are the reasons why people are leaving their homes in the first place. we are at a congressional impasse right now, even though the mirkin public by large majority supports increased access to migration, unfortunately, all of this is called in politics right now and one party has become very anti-immigration. as we saw with former president trump, even legal immigration was under attack. you cut off all avenues for legal migration, you're forcing people into more and more dangerous routes and the chances of a tragedy occurring go up. stephanie: thank you for joining the newshour. >> thank you for having me. ♪
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judy: in the days since the supreme court overturned roe v wade, one state after another has outlawed abortion. illinois is one of the few states in the middle of the country where people can still legally access abortion care. in this report coproduced with the newshour, kaiser health news correspondent sarah varney traveled to illinois to see what's happening there. sarah along the highway from st. : louis a billboard reads: welcome to illinois, where you can get a safe, legal abortion. hope clinic stands out like a beacon. >> amy redd-greiner supervises the front desk. patients travel here to granite
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city from at least 19 states, including texas, florida and kentucky. i'm standing here in illinois and just behind me is missouri across the river. normally you would not think twice about crossing state lines, but now these borders matter in terms of where women can access abortion care. so how busy have the phones been? dr. king: they've been ringing off the hook especially on mondays. >> dr. erin king is an ob-gyn and executive director of hope clinic. so people are coming to us much >>so people are coming to us much more in almost in states of crisis. there's much deeper levels of stress and anxiety both around living somewhere that is telling you that what you're doing is wrong. and then having to come so far as the distance has increased and people's resources have decreased. it's really scary to see people will drive 200, 300 miles, have multiple organizations, help them and still arrive and say. okay. don't tell anyone, because i know this is illegal. well, it's not illegal here.
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>> just 10 minutes away in missouri abortion is now illegal -- with no exceptions for rape or incest. this clinic and hers around illinois have been preparing for this moment for months, years even. they're staying open later, adding weekends, beefing up staff. and they've even built new facilities. >> we are seeing other colleagues start to come into the state where they may have been practicing in other states. they are moving their facilities or their practices into our state, which is going to increase access significantly. do i think illinois will be able to give all the access that is needed? no. >> but one way women can access abortion as a growing number of states outlaw it, is through medication abortion. it's been around since the early 1990's but it wasn't approved by the fda until 2000 for pregnancies up to ten weeks. now more than half of abortions are carried out using the two pill regimen that stops the pregnancy and causes a miscarriage.
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>> figure out how far along she is, if she's under 10 weeks we can go ahead with the option for medical abortion. >> it's been safely used for decades in countries around the world and is 99.6% effective. dr. sadia haider is the division director of family planning at rush university in chicago. in many states, abortion pills can be prescribed via telehealth or obtained online. >> when we think of self-managed abortion pre roe, we think of coat hangers and botched abortions in alleyways. is this the same moment? >> we didn't have these medications back in those days. so we actually have very good medications now that safely can provide medical abortion, both in the hands of clinicians and in the hands of patients. there's a number of studies that haveshown this that patients can do safely. >> to do that, they sometimes need to leave home to have privacy from their children or an abusive ptner. we heard the story of one woman who wasn't able to have her
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medication abortion safely at home, and relied on financial support from an abortion fund so she could finish the process in a hotel room here in decatur. over the last few years, as restrictions grew in surrounding states, illinois has become a safe haven. in 2018, about 5,600 women came here from out of state for abortion care. in 2020, that number increased 70 per to nearly 9,700. we're driving to chicago, that's where many women from the midwest and the south have to travel to access abortion care. the are just far more clinics in the chicago area than anywhere else in the state. anthey're driving long distances. from lexington, kentucky, it's 400 miles, from memphis, tennessee, it's 530 miles. and that's just one way. it's a busy morning at megan
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jeyifo's house in chicago. her husband is getting their kids ready for camp, and she and her colleague have a long list of women who need their help. together, they run the chicago abortion fund which helps women access care who can't afford it or live in states where it's illegal. sarah: we heard in hope clinic yesterday a lot of people coming from tennessee, kentucky, texas, oklahoma. what are some of the things people need in order to make that journey? >> definitely since the start of this year being 2022, each month we see folks from at least 20 states. we're supporting a lot of folks who are caing us, trying to figure out, can i be seen in my home state? is there a place close to me? or maybe they're just like, i know chicago. i'd rather just come to chicago and get care. megan: it can be as simple as, you know, over the border in indiana as a $14 train ticket. we have bought clothes for people who didn't think they were going to end up staying here for multiple day appointments, maxi pads. a hotel stay, a childcare
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stipend something that we really , try to underscore with our callers is that the difficulty you've faced up to this point to get an abortioisn't a reflection of e morality of your decision to have an abortion. this is political. this has nothing to do with you, your body, your doctor, your choices. those are yours, and we trust you to make a decision for yourself and your family that is is powerful and brave. >> ok, and do you have health insurance right now? >> the phone calls are constant. many of those women end up in chicago at clinics like family , planning associates. allison: it's difficult to imagine how this ramp up will occur to be able to take care of all these extra patients. one day, we're seeing our usual number of patients. and the next day, 20,000 more people are calling. dr. allison cowett is the >>dr. allison cowett is the clinic's medical director.
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allison: at least half of people who seek abortion have used some form of birth control in the month prior to them seeking abortion. there will always be a need for abortion, whether it is because people got pregnant and weren't intended to get pregnant because their birth control failed. also because there are many situations where women cannot stay pregnant for their own health and to save their their own life. there are so many different reasons that womeneek abortion. sarah: how do you feel in this moment? allison: when i'm here at work. i have to say, i feel very calm because i feel like this is we are part of a solution for so many people's lives. when i'm outside of my work environment, i do feel rage and i feel concern that thate're not getting that word out there, that this is a public health crisis and the end of women as equal partners in our society.
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sarah: we've gone from one end of illinois to the other. just behind me in wisconsin, clinics have stopped booking appointments for patients, forcing women to search elsewhere. it's another example that borders matter for the pbs newshour and kaiser health news on the illinois sconsin border, i'm sarah varney. ♪ judy: historic news this evening from the nato meeting in spain, turkey has removed its opposition to sweden and finland joining the security alliance. the scandinavian nations sought membership after russia's invasion of ukraine, and a deal has now been struck. our nick schifrin is in madrid for the summit, which starts in earnest tomorrow, and he joins me now. nick, hello. tell us what led to turkey changing its mind.
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nick: weeks of back channel diplomacy between turkey, sweden, and finland, with the u.s. and nato playing key roles. even those here just a few hours ago did not know whether the deal would go through, but it went through. there was a signg ceremony just a few hours ago here in madrid, nato, turkey, finland and sweden, a trilateral agreement in which sweden and finland gave into some of president erdogan's priorities. the agreement states they unambiguously condemn all terror organizations perpetrating attacks against turkey and names the organizations that turkey defines as terrorists. that is what a senior turkey's official tells me tonight is the most important part of this document. number two, the document says that finland and sweden drop embargoes that prevented him from selling turkey weapons and finland and sweden will address turkey's request to extradite kurds living in those countries. some of those extraditions
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include journalists, and the u.s. has refused some of turkey's extradition demands in the past. the nato secretary-general said today, he reiterated the core principle that countries that meet the alliance requirement can become members. >> nato's open-door policy has been a historic success. welcoming finland and sweden into the alliance will make them safer, make them stronger, and the area more secure. nick: that is a reference to the war in ukraine which has led to a historic shift in european security in a matter of months, as you said, it has been many years that sweden and finland have been proud to be military non-allied. today they believe they need nato to prevent pressure from
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further attacking, even in their countries. judy: you mentioned the u.s., tell us about the u.s. role in bringing this about. nick: it really played a key role, but it has downplayed that role from the very beginning. this morning, the u.s., sweden, and finland really calibrated a key call that president biden made to erdogan him a right before he was leaving turkey in order to come here to madrid, as the senior u.s. official told us to get erdog in the right frame of mind. right before they made the deal today, they call president biden, just to get his final blessing, and the official said they've been coordinating all this since november, trying to geto this day. the u.s. believes this is the most historic nato summit in decades, because of the combination of this expansion of nato and the combined major
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increases in the deployment of nato troops to eastern europe and increasing readiness of those nato troops to deploy to eastern europe. i talked about that topic with u.s. ambassador julie smith for the announcement here in madrid. one of the major announcements coming out of the summit is bolstering defense on the stern flank. the secretary-general announced yesterday that the number of troops on high alert grew from 40,000 to 300,000. >> right now the alliance has something called the nato response force, about 40,000 troops that are prepared to deploy within 15 days. by the end of this year, we will have a much larger pool of forces preassigned and ready to go, and that will be up to 300,000. and with the possibility of deploying those troops on just a
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few days notice. nick: how does it really make a big difference to have a number that is so much larger, but those troops are still in their home countries? >> you are right, nato allies do have forces, those forces trained together, but what is new and different here is that we are in fact reassigning or picking out -- reassigning or picking out sets of forces that will be at the ready, so that when a crisis does bubble to the surface, nato allies won't have to go around and have what we would call some sort of force generation exercise, where you are asking countries what is available. in this case, we will know exactly what allies have on hd and those forces will be ready to deploy within days. nick: the other step is the number of troops actually deployed in eastern europe. up until now there's been about 1000 troops in the baltic states
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as well as poland, effectively as a tripwire. not enough troops to defend those countries themselves. those will go up to gate level, 3000-5000. is that a high enough number to actually defend? ? that territory >> what the alliance did is task the commander at nato, general walters, an american, to conduct a review and try and determine what the alliance would need in its eastern flank to deter and defend against some sort of russian attack, or any attackn the future. he came back with the advice that those allies that currently have multinational battalions, that they suld be able to scale those battalions to a brigade. nick: then there's a question of the nato's strategic concept, the last time nato had it in
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2010 included this sentence, nato and russian corroboration is of strategic importance as it contributes to creating a common space of peace, stability, and security. at that time you were the head of director of nato policy. looking back, was the obama administration and all of nato confused? >> we rewrite this national security strategy once a decade. when we sit down and do that, we do the best job that we can at the time. in 2010, we were hoping for a very different trajectory of nato's relationship with russia. now if you look back at what russia did in 2014 in crimea, if you look at what it is recently done in ukraine since late february, we are obviously in a completely different era and a different set of circumstances. so this strategic concept into different
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than the one from 2010. the language on russia is going to reflect the current environment. it's going to reflect russia's war in ukraine, the war crimes, the indiscriminate attacks against civilians. nick: the document identifies russia as the most immediate threat, but there are differences among nato allies about how far to grow -- how far to go. president macron has said the west must resist the tendency to humiliate russia. every alliance has a different history with russia, different geography. we appreciate the countries that actually border ukraine or belarus, where russia has stationed tens of thousands of troops -- nick: easily warning that russia could have more there. >> exactly, those countries
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obviously look at the situation differently and the rest of us that have some distance from the war, but again, the fact that they've all come together to describe the threat and chart a path for nato going forward is a remarkable moment in nato's history. judy: nick will be covering those nato meetings in madrid in days to come. that is the newshour for tonight. judy woodruff. join us online and again here tomorrow. for all of us at the pbs newshour, thank you, please stay safe, and we will see you soon. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by -- >> architect, beekeeper, mentor. a raymond james financial advisor tailors advice to help you live your life. life, well-planned. ♪
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