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>> i'm dana perino in for chris wallace. resident from prepares to announce his supreme court nominee before he heads to the nato summit where he faces rising tensions with european allies. ♪ >> i'm going to tell nato you've got to start paying your bills. the united states is not going to take care of everything. >> plus, the divide with europe over terrorists, withdraw of the iran nuke deal and improved relations with russia. >> i'm meeting with president putin and getting along with other countries is a good thing, it's not a bad thin thing. >> dana: we will preview the summit in brussels and helsinki with kay bailey hutchison, u.s. ambassador to nato. then as a list of possible replacements for justice anthony
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kennedy narrows the senate waits president trump's supreme court announcement. >> if you tune in and monday at 9:00 i think you will be extremely happy. >> dana: we will discuss president trump's possible picks and handicapped their chances of getting confirmed with republican senator lindsey graham. it's a "fox news sunday" exclusive. and we will ask ilyse hogue, resident of naral, pro-choice america, with the vacancy means for roe vs. wade. plus. >> we fed many hours of productive conversation. these are complicated issues but we've made progress on almost all of the central issues. >> dana: north korea takes issue with the latest round of talks following the first formal meeting since the singapore in summit in singapore. we will ask the panel what it means for getting rid of nukes on the korean peninsula. hello again from fox news in washington. president trump is gearing up for a high-stakes trip to europe this week which includes a likely tense summit with nato
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allies and potential concessions to russia in a face-to-face meeting with vladimir putin. but first, he will announce his supreme court pick, a move that could reshape the high court for decades to come. kevin corke is live at the white house with the latest. kevin. >> white house sources insist this will not be a nomination by committee or by congressional lawmaker input, this will fall on the president and the president alone, but that hasn't stopped competing voices on both sides of the political spectrum from trying to influence his choice. believed to be in the president's final four are thought to be conservative but there's pressure on president trump to nominate someone who won't draw the ire of pro-choice republican senators. that could -- amy kony barrett. some evidence that she would vote to overturn roe v. wade. but selecting a judge with a fairly limited paper trail just to avoid a fight in the senate is risky. such is the case with david
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souter, former justice, who despite being nominated by a conservative president, and george h.w. bush, proved to be anything but. >> in choosing justice kennedy's replacement, my greatest responsibility is to select a justice who will faithfully interpret the constitution as written. >> mondays pending supreme court announcement comes just ahead of the president's trip to europe for the nato summit and a pair of bilateral meetings with britain's theresa may and russian president vladimir putin, the latter of which could prove pivotal in shaping mr. trump's vision of u.s.-russian and u.s.-european relations. mike pompeo and decidedly choppy waters in his ongoing bid to get pyongyang to give up its nuclear ambitions but the north describing the u.s. atonement in the latest talks as regrettable and gangster-like. >> good faith, productive conversations which will continue in the days and weeks ahead. in the meantime, sanctions
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remain in place. >> meanwhile, the president's top diplomat, mike pompeo, not only sailed into choppy waters, he is a way as there are new developments on this conversation between the president and bob mueller. have you heard about this? the special counsel not getting new conditions set by rudy giuliani who told "the new york times" he would have to see how the basis of that sitdown would go so that the trump team could assess the mueller teams objectivity. very interesting. >> dana: indeed. kevin corke reporting from the white house. we appreciate it. in joining me know from brussels, the u.s. ambassador to nato, kay bailey hutchison. listen to what president trump said about nato on thursday. >> i'm going to tell nato you've got to start paying your bills. the united states is not going to take care of everything. and we are paying for the whole thing. >> "the washington post" reported trump for his part frequently tells european
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leaders how much he dislikes the e.u. and how it is worse than china. ambassador, what do you make of those comments, and is it possible for the president to convey a sense of cooperation? because there has been significant progress that nato has made. >> ambassador hutchison: nato really is making progress and they are doing it really at president trump's insistence and i think that it's very clear, and he's been very direct about the europeans needing to do more for their own security. i've worked for probably three presidents, all of whom have said the same thing. now i think for the first time we are releasing the europeans actually start going in the right direction. every ally is now increasing defense spending.
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we have had the largest increase in defense spending since the cold war and in the year and a half since president trump has been in office, it has doubled since 2014. i think he is making an impact and i think that the europeans, including chancellor merkel just recently has said we are going to do more. it we need to do more, it's the right thing to do and she is encouraging her parliament to increase the defense budget so that we will be more fit for purpose in nato for the fights that we want to deter. >> dana: do you anticipate that there might be any additional conversations within the nato meeting about the tensions regarding trade and tariff? >> ambassador hutchison: one thing i will say is that in all of the disagreements that we have seen at the g7 and with
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allies with whom we are now having trade talks and negotiations are in tariffs, that has not come up in the nato context. our diplomats are professional and they are staying on our nato issues, where we are 100% allied. >> dana: you said recently that nato's main concern now is russia, that the u.s. has beefed up its troops in nato countries that are next to russia like the baltics and poland. the president reportedly has said crimea should go to the russians since most people there speak russian. does that concern allies like those in the baltic states? and is it still the position of the united states that our nato allies have reason to be concerned about threats from russia? >> ambassador hutchison: i think definitely we are hardening our defenses as a deterrence against the invasion of any outside influence.
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most certainly russia, which has had much-maligned influence that has been an attempt to destabilize our alliance and our allies. it's also counterterrorism. we have a major effort, and it was president trump's request that we prioritize at nato more in the counterterrorism area, which we are doing. and i think it's very important that we support the ukraine and the illegal invasion of crimea in the detention area in eastern ukraine. ukraine is trying very hard to be a strong and sovereign nation and nato is committed to helping them do that with the reforms that they are seeking. so i do think that we are allied in that and i know that all of us in the united states is right there too want to assure that we
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have the mutual defense against any kind of malign influence that russia might attempt and most certainly the export of terrorism from afghanistan and other countries that is in our interest to do. >> dana: let me ask you about another nato ally, that is turkey. tomorrow the president is going to be sworn in. he will continue his 50 year rule. he now has expanded powers because of that election. russian prime minister dmitry medvedev is going to attend the inauguration. our u.s. ambassador post to turkey is still open. do you have any concern that russia is trying to flip turkey? >> yes. i do think russia is trying to flip turkey. they are trying to flip many of our allies. they want to destabilize the
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strongest defense alliance and a history of the world, and that is nato. and every effort that we can make that strengthens our alliance as well as the partners that we have is very helpful, very productive and very necessary. and turkey is one of our alliances most strong members. they are a framework patient helping us in afghanistan. they have been an ally for a long time and we will continue to work with them and we know that russia is trying to move into that but they are strong and they are a nato strong member. >> dana: i know that turkey is thinking about or trying to explore the idea of purchasing an antiaircraft system that russia builds and that the united states is opposed to that. do you think that president trump will address this with the president at the meeting this week?
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>> ambassador hutchison: president trump has addressed it with him. we have addressed it at every level. we are very much against that because it will affect the interoperability of our nato forces in turkey. we can't have a russian-built defense system with f35 going into turkey. we are working with turkey in every way not to put this russian system in the middle of their country when they are such a strong ally of nato, as well as the united states. >> dana: let me ask you about germany. you've said there is no discussion regarding u.s. troop withdrawal from germany but i understand the pentagon is undertaking a cost analysis, 35,000 u.s. troops that we have there. how do you describe with nato or even to the president the rationale for keeping u.s. troops in germany?
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>> ambassador hutchison: the u.s. troops in germany, which there are in the neighborhood of 30,000, are there for many purposes, part of which of course is our ally germany, but also they are a forward facing presence. they are hospital focus for us that helps when we have injured soldiers that need immediate care. they fly to germany, and they are going to be part of our military mobility in nato. so of course we want to make sure that we are getting help with the cost of troops in germany when it is in our interest to have them. that is a negotiation that we always have with countries but i will say that germany has been a very solid partner in having our
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troops there and it has a long-standing support facing both for us as well as for germany. >> dana: let me ask you about poland. i understand poland is lobbying for more permanent presence. is the united states considering that, putting our troops in poland? >> ambassador hutchison: we do have troops in poland. it is a rotating force, part of our enhanced forward presence and we have a great relationship with another great ally of ours in nato, poland, and they have offered permanent facing. certainly we look at all offers made like that, but no decision is being made right now, but looking at it, yes. in fact, congress has asked that our defense department look at the cost involved in new basing of any kind, wherever it might be.
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>> dana: ambassador, thank you for joining us today, i hope you have a good meeting this week. >> ambassador hutchison: thank you, dana. it's great to be with you and glad that you have the sunday show while chris is gone. >> dana: thank you so much. up next, secretary of state mike pompeo praises progress on his first trip to pyongyang since the singapore cement but the north koreans strike a different tone. senator lindsey graham joins us next. ♪
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♪ >> dana: north korea is accusing the u.s. of making gangster-like demands and the most recent round of talks since the singapore summit between president trump and kim jong un.
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secretary of state mike pompeo, who just wrapped up two days of meetings and pyongyang maintained his visit produced results but said sanctions will remain for now. joining me from clemson, south carolina, republican senator lindsey graham just back from a trip. we are glad to have you here. if we could start with north korea. the obvious improvement in relations because you have kim jong un used to say president trump -- now he's actually engaging on policy but it probably doesn't surprise you that much that the north koreans issued a statement yesterday saying the meeting was regrettable, saying they were robber-like and really pouring cold water on it. what do you think of it? >> senator graham: ith to see china's hands all over this. we are in a fight with china. we buy $500 billion worth of goods from the chinese, they buy 100 billion from us. they cheat and president trump wants to change the economic relationship with china so if i
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were president trump, i would not let china use north korea to back me off of the trade dispute. we've got more bullets than they do when it comes to trade. we sell them 100 billion, they sell is 500 billion, we can hurt them more than they have heard us and all we are looking for is for them to stop shooting when it comes to trade. if there is no doubt in my mind that it's the chinese pulling a north koreans back into the north korean friends, can't say the word friend yet. what you ask pompeo did he sleep well? if you knew what i knew about what we could do to the leadership of north korea, you wouldn't sleep very well. >> dana: i actually really enjoyed reading about that exchange with the north korean general asking mike pompeo twice, surely you couldn't have slept well last night and are secretary of state said i slept just fine. meanwhile, president trump will meet one-on-one with vladimir putin in helsinki. reports that the kremlin is working with the u.s. to have a deal that the president will except, they say putin has agreed in principle to u.s. and
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israeli demands that iranian backed forces in southern syria be kept away from israel's border, replaced with troops loyal to the government and damascus and according to two kremlin advisors. would you recommend the president agreed to that deal? >> senator graham: given russia's behavior, absolutely not. russia was supposed to make sure they had no chemical weapons. the last thing you can rely upon is the russians to take care of american-israeli interests. there is ideal to be had in syria. our troops in northeastern syria working with the syrian democratic forces have demolished isis and if we stay there we have about 2,000 troops, isis won't come back. if we stay in northeastern syria, iran can't march from tehran to be rude. i don't trust the russians to implement any agreement when it comes to the iranians, but there is an agreement to break russia away from iran, but no way can it be achieved with them staying
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there. it's an insurance policy against taking over syria and ice is coming back in the iranians owning the whole region. >> dana: how to balance the cooperation we need with russia right now on something with her concerns we have with russia on many other fronts? and how would you recommend president trump approach that meeting next monday in helsinki? it will be his first one-on-one with putin. >> senator graham: when putin denies that he was involved in our election in 2016, reject the denial, challenge them. don't let him deny the obvious. they are still trying to disrupt the 2018 election cycle. when it comes to syria we need to be partnering with turkey to make sure that we can maintain the presence in northeastern syria. at the end of the day, iran is a weak economy. they've got problems in their own backyard. what we need to do is partner with turkey and russia and break iran away. iran has a different reason for being in syria than most everybody else.
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israel cannot tolerate hezbollah and iranian presence in syria. the arabs will never accept him, nor will the syrian people. there's a way to get russia pulled away from iran but we have to have a presence in iraq and syria to be successful. in 2007 we lost 900 soldiers fighting in iraq and the last three and a half years we have lost 14. president trump has done a good job of destroying isis and countering iran. our soldiers in iraq and syria are insurance policies against iran domination and the rise of isis. if we keep this configuration in place with got some leverage regarding russia and iran. >> dana: you mention turkey. i wanted to ask you about that. you were just on a trip we spoke to the president of turkey. he is going to be inaugurated for i think the fourth term tomorrow. while turkey has been somewhat helpful in syria as you mentioned an ambassador hutchison just said, are you concerned that turkey is an ally adrift, and is there a strategy to get them back on track?
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>> senator graham: they are definitely an ally adrift but there is a new chapter in turkish history. he won big and he's going to have a long time to serve in turkey and we need to come to grips with that. we need to push and when it comes to the way they treat the press and human rights abuses. they have americans in captivity for no good reason. but having said that, we need to assure turkey that the kurdish forces we are partners within syria will not present a threat to turkey. that's a legitimate concern. turkey has no interest in iran dominating damascus. at the end of the day, their economy is better off hooked up with us versus russia and iran. they are a nato ally. i came back for my meeting somewhat encouraged that we can start over in a win-win fashion securing the northeastern part of syria and they can be a better ally when it comes to pushing back against iran and isis. >> dana: did you talk to him about this idea that they would want to buy and s400
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antiaircraft system? and do you think he wants to go forward with a? and if he does, will the congress vote to put sanctions on turkey since that's allowed? >> senator graham: we are not going to sell turkey the f35. our most advanced fighter and allow them to buy the most advanced soviet antiaircraft system. it will just be a matter of time before the as/400 would be used in a fashion to undermine the f35. they have to pick. i would like them to buy the patriot missile battery made by the united states and our partners. they are a neato partner. they need to release the pastor, who has been held in my view way too long, very much illegally. but you've got to remember that the president was under siege two years ago, there was an armed coup. i left that meeting believing that we can do business with him. you can't have the as/400, we will find a substitute for that.
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that helps us enormously. there's a win-win situation in northeastern syria. i think turkey understands the future is better with the west economically and i would like to do a a free trade agreement one day with turkey when they get their house in order and that would neuter russia and iran's influence vis-a-vis turkey better than anything i could think of. >> dana: i wanted to bring up past her brunson. he's been held for two years. this is of great concern to the president and the vice president. did you get any indication that he will be able to come home soon? >> senator graham: i met with him. here's what was interesting. the turkish president met with myself. the next day he let us go see the pastor who is doing well physically but has been in jail now way too long. he's lived in turkey for 24 years. he has nothing to do with the coup when it comes to what happened in 2016. he got caught up in a net and he is not a threat to the people of turkey.
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that is the defining issue between us and turkey. i don't believe they would let us see him if they were not looking for a way to end this and they have some other embassy personnel in turkish prison and we need to get this issue behind us. i left turkey thinking that after this election we've got a chance to do business with him better than in the past. we need turkey and they need us. >> dana: sounds like a worthwhile trip. let me ask you one question on domestic policy. the timing of the supreme court nomination seems to not be better for republicans. if you are on the judiciary committee. you've been around before for supreme court nominations, how much different like this one be and do you feel confident that the republicans will be able to confirm one of president trump's nominees before the midterms? >> senator graham: i think i've got two words and i heard supreme court and confidence. so we've got a technical problem, but here's my answer. republicans are holding four lottery tickets and all of them are winners.
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if you are a conservative republican, the four people named, particularly tom, i'm glad he is on the list. all republicans should embrace these picks. here's the truth. donald trump could nominate george washington or john marshall and they couldn't get through. it may be a handful of democrats will vote for a trumpet because they have to politically. i've never seen at this dysfunctional. there's nobody that president trump could nominate from a conservative event that will get many democratic votes. this is a nightmare for red state democrats to oppose a highly qualified nominee and all four of these people are highly qualified, been on the court, know what they are doing, mainstream judges. red state democrats are going to have a very hard decision and i hope every republican will rally behind these picks because they are all outstanding. >> dana: all right, senator graham, thank you for reading my mind since you couldn't hear me and for joining us today. it's always good to talk to you.
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>> senator graham: thank you. >> dana: up next, what could a conservative replacement for justice kennedy mean for roe v. wade? tlyse hogue, president of naral, pro-choice america, joins us when we come back. etty fast. you just want to get a real price and that's where true car comes in. only with true car can you see what other people paid for the car you want and you can connect with certified dealers who offer prices based on this same information. none of those other sites do that. from end to end, true car is your only one stop solution.
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>> dana: coming up, secretary of state secretary of state mike pompeo downplays north korea's accusation of gangster-like demands by the u.s. >> we had good faith productive conversations which will continue. in the meantime, sanctions remain in place.
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♪ >> dana: the president is set to announce his nominee for the supreme court monday at 9:00 p.m. eastern and much of the focus has been on how a new justice could join with the high court's conservative bloc to overrule the courts roe vs. wade decision. joining me now is ilyse hogue,
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president of naral, pro-choice america, an organization working to keep abortion legal and assessable. thank you for being here with me. take a listen to leonard leo last week on "fox news sunday." he's currently on leave from the federal society and he put together the supreme court list for president trump. >> i don't think at the end of the day it's about roe v. wade. it's about having judges on the court were going to interpret the constitution the way it's written. and part of interpreting the constitution is taking into account major precedents and that's going to happen. >> dana: conservative say the concern about roe v. wade is more of a scare tactic than reality, how do you see a? >> ilyse: we take the president at his word. he is the president of the united states and he is certainly the first major party nominee who put a litmus test on supreme court justices and that was to actually overturn roe v. wade purity, so we believe him. he's gotta vice president -- we
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think that's the mind-set that many americans are actually going into this with because it was such vocal talking point for him. we also know that the backpedaling that's happening now from people who had warned than critics of roe v. wade is partially because they know what we know, which is most american people, regardless of how they feel personally about abortion, believe that legal access is core to our country. >> dana: i have some polls and i think that we could put them up there. outlook opinion certainly has shifted since 1973. it's been 45 years and 67% of americans say they do not want to see roe vs. wade overturned. there is some variation by degrees. in another bowl, 50% say it should be legal under certain circumstances. 18% say it should not be legal at all. with 68% of people saying some or all restrictions or some restrictions, how do you plan to go forward, and is it a situation where you might like
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the states decide if there is this public opinion change? >> ilyse: thank you. i'm from texas so i'm very familiar with what happens when the state decides -- similar to other freedoms and protections of people would see in this country without a federal guideline that affirms the fact that it should be legal. many states already have decided that abortion should be criminalized. in fact, there are states with logs on the books right now that would make abortion the criminal act the minute it falls. and that makes women and doctors criminals. we think that the federal protection is necessary. we also know that the number of people who say in some circumstances, of course. it's a complicated issue, but when you first let out a little bit further, what we find is that people are very uncomfortable sitting in judgment. every individual has a story and that most people are compassionate and recognize that allowing people to make their own decisions about their families is that compassionate
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and healthy choice. >> dana: back to the supreme court nomination. i take your point that what president trump said in the campaign and what he says now is that he's not going to ask the people that he is interviewed for this possible position, but i want you to listen to two recent supreme court nominees and how they answered questions in the senate hearing about roe v. wade. >> can you tell me whether it was decided correctly? >> senator, again i would tell you that roe vs. wade, decided in 1973 is president of the united states supreme court. it has been reaffirmed. >> in your opinion is it set a law? >> the court's decision in planned parenthood versus casey reaffirmed court holding. that is the precedent that is settled in terms of the holding of the court. >> dana: those two seem very similar to me. they are different from the ideological perspective and if the new number he actually worked to answer it in that way, would that be satisfactory to you?
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>> ilyse: because president trump changed the rules of the game when he put a litmus test on the supreme court nominee, we think that there is actually -- we need an affirmative declaration. i think even susan collins says this when she said she needs to stand nominees demonstrate their commitment to upholding roe vs. wade and keeping abortion legal. >> dana: even ruth bader ginsburg said in her hearing that she would never answer them because it's a hypothetical that she wouldn't answer. >> ilyse: she actually did answer that. she held affirmatively that she believes it should be upheld. speculation on super dull my future cases that have not yet come before the court. we believe that actually what ruth bader ginsburg, and we have the clips that is in fact perfect, which is that women should be afforded this right to privacy, to make their own decision. it was decided and it is absolutely what most americans want. >> dana: i will have people take a look at the ad you have
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created. a full-page ad running in many of the cities all across maine because of pressure you want to put on senator susan collins. what other strategies and tactics are you going to try to use? and at the end of the day, there will probably be a vote, how do you think it will go? >> ilyse: we are really trying to channel the flood of calls we are getting into our office from people who aren't even our members into the senator 's ear, which is basically to take president trump at his word, don't vote to put someone on the court that will got it and criminalize abortion and we think that's a very compelling message for folks. do we think susan collins is the only person that needs to be heard? absolutely not. will he be careful what you wish for a moment for republicans who have spent decades being able to campaign against abortion but are reading the samples that we are reading, which is why you have leonard leo backing off, most americans actually really
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support this. >> dana: what about red state senate democrats who are up for reelection? will you be trying to run ads in their states as well? >> ilyse: absolutely. i think you will see a lot of constituents talking to their senators over the next couple months and that includes democrats and republicans. we don't actually see this as a partisan issue. we see it as an issue of constitutional human rights and i think that when they hear from their constituents and when they look at the numbers in their states, be it on criminalizing abortion or on health care, which has become very popular, i think the senators are going to have to really do their job and listen to their constituents. >> dana: or two may try and pass other laws because the supreme court justices can't find it in the constitution, they would probably look to congress. >> ilyse: they will have some tough decisions to make. >> dana: thank you for being with us, we appreciate it. >> ilyse: thank you, dana. >> dana: all eyes will be on the president announcing that tomorrow night at 9:00 p.m. up next we will bring in our sunday group to preview that election and what the president hopes to achieve in his upcoming
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>> spent the last three days interviewing and thinking about supreme court justice, such an important decision, and we are going to give you a great one. we are going to announce it on monday. >> dana: president trump building suspense for the announcement of his second supreme court pick in two years. it's time now for our sunday group. fox news senior political analyst brit hume. columnist for the hill, juan williams. fox news correspondent gillian turner and former republican congressman jason chaffetz. it's a pleasure to have you here today and wanted to ask you about senator mitch mcconnell.
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taking a bum rap for being obstructionist, but don't democrats deserve some of the blame for the depolarization of judges? all the way with the filibuster in 2013. >> it has been hardball politics on supreme court nominations at least since bourque, and obviously you can go back before that. that is the function of the fact that the supreme court has been the source and the other courts as well of so many of the victories that the left has claimed on policy for decades now. a result of that is a huge premium on the supreme court nominees and everybody in the political branches has pulled out all the stops to see that they can get their nominees confirmed or in the case of some blocked. if that is where we are and that is what mitch mcconnell has dealt with, what harry reid was trying to deal with. hardball politics all the way. it has been for the longest time. >> dana: juan, conservatives have been galvanized around these issues for the longest
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time, democrats not so much. look at what brian fallon, now with demand justice said in "the washington post" yesterday. he said if trump succeeds in this confirmation fight, progressives will learn the hard way of the importance of the courts. it's unfortunate. it might take that for the left to realize the courts are an institution worth fighting for. is the concern about a rightward shift in the court about to change that? >> i think so. i think even now you can see that the perception of a court -- and i think that's largely at stake here because you are going from justice kennedy, who was a swing vote. like a guy standing in the middle-of-the-road, especially on social issues, certainly a conservative but when it came to social issues, i'm thinking specifically of abortion rights, and thinking of gay rights. justice kennedy was open to this discussion. i think the public could see that while he could be persuaded one way or another. the potential here is for a very conservative justice to be put in place by president trump that
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would really say to the public know, the court really is a rubber-stamp for a conservative social agenda. and i think that would be not only harmful in terms of public perception of the court, which people want to trust, but i think it would suggested that to your point, liberals, or democrats would suddenly realize they have to get as activated on this issue as conservatives have been in the past. remember, the list that president trump is choosing from is basically set by the federalist society. you had leonard leo, click from him, on earlier. he's a key player in this. if there is no such person on the left. >> dana: jason, as the midterms approach, i wonder what you thought about the energy around this. it could be that democrats decide to turn out to vote. but conservatives turn out to vote in this case as well. a lot of the attention will be on the senate. do the house republicans run any risk of losing focus our energy in that regard?
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>> i think the enthusiasm gap gap goes the republicans direction. one of the best things donald trump did is put out that list of 20 plus nominees before he was elected and that gave a lot of enthusiasm to a very conservative base that knew that the court has made critical decisions and republicans notoriously have made mistakes on this in the past. they put up some nominees who didn't turn out to be quite so conservative. even though it's a house eat, they will get a vote. it's the same base of voters that gets enthusiastic and actually shows up to vote even in a midterm election. >> dana: we will continue to follow this obviously. any advice you would get to the senate democrats who are running for reelection? vote early with the president or wait and see if schumer presses them to not vote? >> i think the key for them is what the two potential republican no votes do. if collins and murkowski break against the nominee, that will give political cover to democrats who were in tight reelection races to possibly do the same. if the republicans hold then i
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think the heat is really on those people. >> dana: then you can see like a 54. >> you would probably get some extra votes, as was the case with gorsuch. >> the democratic base that we were just talking about for the first time being activated on this issue is pretty intense so you get someone like senator of hawaii who said she's going to vote against every trump nominee for any court as a result of this. >> she can do that because she's from hawaii. >> even fort red state democrats, like joe donnelly in indiana. i think that right now the previous vote on the supreme court from a trump nominee, you guys go ahead, we understand, said democratic base, democratic leadership. on this one, i don't think that holds. >> there are no safe bets in this go-round. there's going to be a fight from democrats no matter which of the three or four, depending on how you're looking at it.
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>> dana: it's going to be an interesting summer. i want to turn to north korea with you. secretary pompeo gets back yesterday, he says i slept very well, there's progress. do you see the north koreans coming forward and saying it's regrettable, they treat us like gangsters is just a bump in the road or a derailment of the process? >> i was thinking it's interesting you asking the question because in my mind earlier, but i was thinking to myself is is this a bump in the road or does this constitute a crisis? and i don't think anybody knows the answer yet. i don't think the administration -- i don't think secretary pompeo knows the answer yet. not because he's not knowledgeable, but because it's going to take another few weeks for that to become apparent. but one thing the administration is doing now is really circling the wagons. everybody from secretary pompeo, the president, the state department spokesperson to ambassador john bolton, now national security advisor. they've got a message and the message is to stay cool, calm
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and collected in the face of this whether it's a bump in the road or a crisis and to emphasize that it's a process and the process is ongoing and it's on track. at the first thing that secretary pompeo said yesterday when asked about the foreign ministry comments from the north koreans was they can say whatever they want to the press, but the process is ongoing. the next meeting is july 12th. it's going forward. >> somewhere along the way early in this process mike pompeo is over there and is talking to these north korean leaders and he get the idea that something is really different this time. he may be right, he may be wrong. so we move forward. we get to this point. if the north koreans, with all this bluster. pompeo seems serene about the whole thing. the question seems to me, who do believe? to believe the north korean spokesman or mike pompeo? in this case in terms of how the meeting what i would be inclined to believe pompeo, which is by
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no means to say this is all going to end very well and they will do nucearized. i think that still remains a long shot. >> dana: i think they are very clear right about all this. juan, let me ask you about another meeting happening this week. president trump will go to a nato meeting and he will have a one-on-one meeting with putin. what you think the president wants to accomplish in that meeting? >> with putin i think syria is the number one issue and the question is about how the russians play a role in the middle east. are they in fact linked inevitably with iran? you hurts on about this from senator graham in your earlier interview where the idea is that you have to be quite clear up with president putin that the united states sees him as an antagonist and someone who is stirring the pot and indirectly supporting iran's support of terrorist organizations throughout the middle east. so this is not in our interest. the question is how do you break that link, i think that's what senator graham was coming through, making it clear to them. and the second part of it, and i
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was surprised to hear senator graham say this, you've got to be quite direct with them about interference in our elections and we can't get president trump you have to say directly hey, putin, stop it. >> dana: what did you make of the questions about turkey and with the congress might do? the frustration as i understand it on the hill is very high. >> it is. on the one hand we've delivered, i believe it's two at 35's on the way to nearly 100 but at the same time turkey is now signaling that they may want to purchase -- the interoperability interacting with our nato allies is pivotal to this. the turkish president is going to be there for a long time. glad senator lindsey graham was there, but this all comes, it's multidimensional chess here and going back to juan's point, i want to make this really quickly about putin. i do think donald trump is right. the president needs to have a good working relationship, but people on both sides of the i want to see president trump take a much tougher stance with vladimir putin and say you can't
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metal with our elections, you can't be doing what you're doing in syria and we are going to stand our ground. and right now all you've seen from donald trump is acquiescing to putin and saying no, you can take crimea because they speak russian. that makes no sense to a lot of us. >> dana: presidents go on foreign trips, it's high-stakes. my theory is there's always something happening at home. then you have to try to deal with. once you are working overtime. how important is this trip for president trump at this point in his presidency? >> it's a big deal both for the first part of the trip and for the putin visit. all eyes will be on the putin visit because of the suspicion held to this day in many quarters that he really has a desire to really snuggle up to putin and he thinks he can be a great ally and partner of his. i have long thought that's fanciful, but i think he believes that. in his behavior towards putin on this and the body language and all of it is going to be very interesting to watch.
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the other thing of course is will he have a smooth and harmonious meeting with the allies ahead of that? that's an open question. >> dana: 30 seconds left, what you think on that point? i believe it will probably be smoother than we think. >> same issues on the table as the last time we have this conversation a year ago. the syrian civil war, like juan said, cyber warfare. those are the issues they got to talk about. >> dana: thanks, panel. and we will see you next sunday. up next, our "power player of the week." the rising star in the republican party bringing new ideas and leadership to congres congress. ♪
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>> dana: millennials have become the largest segment of our workforce and are becoming the largest segment of u.s. voters. and while they are very negative about washington, as we told you last november, one of their own is trying to change that. here's our "power player of the week." ♪ >> i wanted to get some accomplish much under my belt. >> explaining why she turned me down for a profile three years
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ago. when at age 30 she became the youngest woman ever elected to congress. >> i wanted to make sure that my first impression to my colleagues is that i am a workhorse. i invest myself in learning about the policy issues and i add substantive ideas to the discussion. >> i rise today in strong support of the national defense authorization act. >> she's a member of the house intelligence and armed services committees. and as a republican she wrote a change to obamacare that president obama signed. >> i wrote and passed the largest fix to our health care law and first term. we need a new direction. >> running on the slogan new ideas and new leadership, she campaigned on people's frustration with congress. >> i would ask every group that i met with raise your hand if you think washington is broken. every hand would go up.
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>> part of her answer, use technology and transparency to make congress more accountable. >> i use the example of posting on facebook. that's using a new tool to reach out directly to constituents and hear back from them on every single vote. that something every member should be doing. >> is there any pinch me quality that you are a united states congresswoman? >> there are pinch me moments every day when i walk in and see the capitol dome. >> she started in politics a while ago. >> i ran for student council secretary in sixth grade and around the platform of bringing a snack machine. and that is very popular. >> i figure you won? >> i won. >> she worked two years in the bush 43 white house on domestic policy. >> and that's the approach i will bring to washington. >> then in 2014 she ran for congress. >> how much pushback did you get? you are too young, too inexperienced? >> i got a lot of pushback initially. very few people took me
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seriously. paul ryan actually was one of the individuals that encouraged me and gave me great advice. you have two ears and one mouth. use it in that ratio. listen to what voters concerns are. >> she won her swing district by 22 points and in 2016 was reelected by 35 points. >> is it true that when he first got here you backstopped a lot? >> i did. and i still get stopped about once a month going back and forth to the dash if i wasn't wearing my pen there would be many votes that i would have missed. >> she is not just young, she's a maverick, often blocking the party lines. she voted against the g.o.p. tax bill in november because it eliminates the state and local income tax deduction important to new yorkers. and that's not all. >> i've introduced a republican resolution that climate change is happening and we need to find a solution. >> while she has had an impressive start in congress, she doesn't plan to be there forever. >> i do think institutionally
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congress benefits from having new members and new ideas so i don't see myself being here for 25, 30 years. >> maybe 15 or 20? >> i don't know. i'm thinking every two-year cycle. i need to go out there and make sure that i continue to earn the support for my constituents. >> dana: now she's trying to get more women to run for congress as the head of recruitment at the nrc see, she has worked to nearly triple the number of female republican candidates running for office this cycle. and now this for a programming out for you. be sure to tune in next week as "fox news sunday" heads to helsinki. chris will kick off fox news coverage from their ahead of the summit between president trump and russian president vladimir putin. and that is it for today. have a great weekend we will see you next "fox news sunday" ." ♪
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