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enough. >> sandra: i'm sandra smith. president biden headed to the scene of another mass shooting at the nation looks for answers. ♪ ♪ mourning and frustration in texas were 19 precious young students and two brief teachers were gunned down at school. >> president bidi am sick and tired of it, we have to act. >> sandra: we will have a live report from uvalde, were a t-knit community faces loss and law enforcement face questions about how this happened. >> the information that i was given turned out in part to be inaccurate, and i'm absolutely livid about that.
>> sandra: and gun owners, lawmakers, and former president trump gather at an nra event in houston with protesters outside. as washington begins yet another conversation about elusive gun reform legislation. >> we're going to try to work through this and see if we can find a common ground buried >> sandra: we will ask republican congressman mo brooks, who has an a rating from the, and is in a runoff for the republican nomination for senate in alabama about the divide over gun violence and gun rights. plus, the president signs an executive order on police reform two years after the death of george floyd as crime across the country rises. we will ask democratic senator ben cardin about the president's moand the deadlock in congress. then, pennsylvania's closely watched blican senate primary heads to a recount. we will ask our sunday panel about the big test for former president trump's influence.
all right now o on "fox news sunday." ♪ ♪ >> sandra: angelo again from fox news on this memorial day weekend. the president and first lady are on their way to texas days after 21 people, most of them children, were killed at an elementary school. he will once again play consoler in chief to a community reeling from tremendous loss. tragedy and other recent mass shootings is sparking renewed calls on capitol hill to ramp up gun control measures. in a moment we will speak with congressman mo brooks, who is in a runoff for the republican senate nomination in alabama. but first, let's turn to casey stegall, he is in uvalde for us, where the community there is still grieving this morning. casey. >> sandra, good morning. indeed they are. resident biden and the first lady expected to make
multiple stops, meeting with multiple victims of tuesday's senseless act, now deemed the second deadliest school shooting in u.s. history. 19 children, mostly fourth-graders, and two adult teachers, were murdered in their own classroom. police say the 18-year-old shooter managed to get inside, robb elementary school, with a door thave been propped open. when responding officers got on teame incident commander decided to wait on the.w.a.t. team instead of engaging with the gunman right away. as a result,5 plus minutes ticked by, officers in the halls as little kids flooded 911 with pleas for help. until federal agents arrived, breaching the room and shot and killed the team gunmen as he emerged from hiding. >> the benefit of hindsight, of course it was not the right decision, it was a wrong decision, period. there's no excuse for that.
>> officials say the suspect's legally purchased of the gun and the ammunition used at a local store days before. through his social media,ing searching for a possible motive. this is the national rifle association is holding their annual conference this weekend down in houston. more than 270 miles from here. the nra event was on the calendar prior to this tragedy. a few keynote figures chose not to attend, like the texas governor and the texas lieutenant governor, well texas senator ted cruz and former president donald trump were in attendance. meantime, the funerals will begin this week here in the community of this small, tight-knit community, i should say, a week that many students had looked forward to because it was the beginning of their summer vacation. sandra. >> sandra: our hearts are
broken all over the country as we continue to see that unity grieve there. casey stegall, thank you very much, reporting from uvalde, texas for us. joining us now, republican congressman and alabama senate it mo brooks. congressman, welcome and thank you for joining us here on "fox news sunday." >> congressman brooks: thank you, sandra. >> sandra: you heard just a moment ago there, republican senator john cornyn of texas and some other republican members of congress had spoken out as well. they are suggesting that perhaps there could be some common ground found here on gun legislation in the wake of this most recent shooting. would you support any changes, sir, to the current gun laws on the books? >> congressman brooks: let's, for emphasis, understand what the second amendment is about. the second amendment is designed to help ensure that we the citizenry always have the right to take back our government should it become dictatorial. that was a great fear of the founding fathers and quite frankly it's a fear today. and as long as we enjoy on
infringed second amendment rights, then we don't really have to worry that much about the government ever becoming dictatorial. but the moment that we take from our citizenry our ability to take our government back if the both of the ability of dictatorial forces increases to the point where perhaps they will try to implement a dictatorial government at the federal level. so i want to protect the second amendment right to bear arms, the amendment is very clr, it's is the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infrd. if there are proposals out there that guarantee the rights of the american people to freely exercise their second amendment right to bear and keep arms, then i will consider them. but if you're talking about depriving people of their second to member right to bear arms, first, it's unconstitutional, so you're going to have to address that with a constitution amendment and we will see how congress and the states react to that kind of measure, but second, it's not the proper way to go if you want to preserve our freedoms, and i say that having been the target of an assassination attempt on the baseball field in virginia where
0 come bullet's were fired over about a seven minute period of time. so i've been in the middle of one of these things and i was a primary target of the assassin where he had my name, my physical description in his pocket at the time he launched this attack. what we have to do is stop the motivation that causes these criminals, these horrific individuals, to do what they do. >> sandra: i want to dig into that in just a moment, because you did say some things on that this week. but first, to the specific gun laws in your state, sir. the minimum age in your state to buy and ar-15 like the one the school shooter used in uvalde is 18 years old. there's no waiting period between the time that a firearm is purchased and when it's actually turned over to the buyer. there's no license for the sale of ammunition. gallup research does find that a majority of americans, 52% of them, are in favor of stricter gun laws when it comes to the
sale of firearms. so to the majority of americans who feel that way, you say what? >> congressman brooks: i suggest that the polling data that you have does not really american people.ions of the i expect that the people who were polled by way of example were not properly explained what the purpose of the second moment right to bear arms is and i will use my own history as an example. if there are many times when i went to school with a shotgun in my car. why? because i just got through duck hng. there other teenagers my age at that point in time that also brought their weapons to school and they had been hunters too or whatever it is the hunting season was about. now, bacen i was growing up, we didn't have these mass killings, okay? they weren't there. they didn't occur. or if they did, i certainly was not cognizant of them and they were very, very, very rare, so rare that i cannot recall a single instance in which one of those things occurred during my youth. today they are much more common. what's the big difference between when i was growing up and today? the big difference is the
decline in the moral values, the decline and a respect for human life. if we teach proper moral values, it would teach respect for human life, if we properly address until health issues that may somehow or another be associated with all these things, then that is the way to fix the problem. >> sandra: okay. to that point, this week you suggested ju that, what you believe is behind the rising number of mass shootings in america. you said this. it reflects poorly on liberal policies that encourage out of wedlock childbirth. divorce, sigel parent households and a moral values that undermine respect for life. mass killings that are common in america today work on the issue just stated, when i grow up, a very rare thing. the way to prevent mass moral values. say, is to restore i will dig into that more in just a second, what does that statement, sir, unfairly blamed single-parent households in his country fothe rise of mass shootings? >> congressman brooks: absolutely not. it blames moral values decline in the united states of america
and there are a lot of factors that have contributed to our moral decline. by way of example, the studies i've ever seen suggest that children who are raised with just one parent around, they don't do as well by the time they become adults. why? because it's almost impossible for a single parent to do the kind of job that two parents collectively can do, it's just a numbers game. and there arlot of single parents that do an excel job raising their kids, but they are super parents, and i thank them for the effort that they've put forth in producing children who later become responsible adults. but unfortunately, the data is very clear, those single-parent households, for whatever rea end up resulting in children who are more likely to be on welfare, less likely to get the kind of grades you expect to get in school, more likely to be involved in drugs and unfortunately are more likely to be involved in criminal conduct. that's just the data. if that's not to say that all single parents do that, okay? that is not the data. we are talking about probabilities and tendencies and one, two, three, four, 5%
greater prep ability, that has an effect on society. >> sandra: restoring moral values, your calling for glacial change there. people want to know what can be done today. aren't you then making the case for red flag laws that could help these communities identify someone who owns a firearm who doesn't have respect for human life? they have been adopted in 19 states, but not alabama. would you ort that? >> congressman brooks: under the united states constitution, before you can do something to this kind of individual, you have to show, one, that their mind is off a little bit, and two, that they have engaged in some kind of conduct that would warrant you've taken the appropriate kind of action against them, by way of example, to house them for their own protection or protection of others. it might be non -- mental capacity type of hearing, there are laws already on the books to take care of those types of issues. the problem is identifying them and identifying them as opposed
to the problem associated with miss identifying others. there has to be a balance, and that's a real challenge for our probate courts around the country and every other governmental body or person who is responsible for determining when someone becomes a risk to themselves and to others. that's a very difficult thing to mind read. >> sandra: so is it fair to say you could be, if it was written correctly, open to some sort of red flag law in your state? >> congressman brooks: are not talking about red flag laws. i'm talking about a person who is a danger to others that we already have laws for that are already on the books, okay? if you've got some kind of mental issue and you are a danger to yourself or a danger to others, then you already can be subject to court jurisdiction in the appropriate court remedies to ensure that you are no longer a danger to yourself and others. that is this now, that's been on the books in alabama for decades and i believe it's been on the books throughout the country for cades. >> sandra: several speakers meanwhile, sir, chose not to
attend this weeks and a texas, including texas governor. the nra endorsed you recently, you believe it was appropriate to hold that meeting in texas? >> congressman brooks: are not going to comment on the meeting in texas because i'm not a part of it but i very much appreciate that the national rifle association, gun owners of america, and the national association of gun rights have endorsed me in this united states senate race in alabama over all other comers. that says a lot about who's going to actually fight to defend the seconendment right to bear arms and in alabama, that's a big deal. >> sandra: all right, onto the semi gnomic senate primary runoff in the former president donald trump. you are now in a runoff in the alabama senate primary against katie brett, who i should know we did invite to join us here but she was unavailable. all this is happening a performer president trump saying you had blown it by going "woke" for not talk about what he says was 2020 election fraud. what exactly did the president ask you to do after the 2020
election? >> congressman brooks: the president and i had many conversations between septem september 1st and his decision to unendorse me that revolved around his being reinstated, revolved around his wanting to rescind the election and i can understand him wanting to do that, okay? he was robbed, in my judgment, in 2020. in his judgment, he was robbed and so i can understand that desire. the conflict was one i would explain the law does not permit us to do that. our one shot at reversing the election, our one shot in an election contest by the united states constitution and federal law, is on january 6th that's it, that's the final appeal day. so anything we do after that has to focus on winning the 2022 and 2024 elections. we can use what happened in 2020 as a motivation to try and get better election laws to use as a motivation to win in 2022 and 2024 to save our country, but what is none in 2020 is irreversible under the united states constitution and
the united states code, and i'm one of those who believes in law and order. i might not like it, but that's the end game, but that is the end game the end game. if >> sandra: just to go on the record, there has been still no evidence or proof provided that there was any sort of fraud -- >> congressman brooks: that's wrong. i don't know why you people in the media keep saying that. that is absolute false. that is absolu false. you keep saying every time -- >> sandra: what is false? >> congressman brooks: 150 congressmen and senators who absolutely disagree with you on what you just said. so what you calling them? what are you calling them when you say 150 republican senators and congressmen look to th voter fraud issue and said there was a major problem? what are you calling the commission on federal election reform, bipartisan committee with jimmy carter on the one hand and james baker, ronald reagan, white house chief of staff on the other, back in 2005 who analyzed the systemic weaknesses, systemic flaws in our election system and warned us that elections are going to be stolen if we don't fix these problems and those problems were not fixed -- so i don't know
who's telling her there's no evidence -- >> sandra: the courts under judges -- the courts and the judges that have -- some inside the top in administration. >> congressman brooks: don't go into the. >> sandra: i want to finish up -- >> congressman brooks: no. i'm getting in the last word on this on because you just made a false statement,kay? the courts are not the final arbiter of who wins federal election contests. coss is buried that required by the united states constitution, that is required by the united states code. for congressmen and senators and the president. so don't be surprised -- >> sandra: let me just quote -- let me just quote the g.o.p. commissioner in wisconsin. in "the wall street journal" today. printed -- i will read it verbatim. he said "there is no evidence that election fraud is the reason trump lost in wisconsin, and that is not for lack of looking." his advice to your party is to pivot away from these conspiracy theories, focus on the issue that affects wisconsin families and their pocketbooks. i want to move on to january
sixth and the committee buried >> congressman brooks: look at the judges opinion in pennsylvania but talked about over 2 million illegal ballots cast. if that was there court order. >> sandra: sir, have you been subpoenaed yet by the january 6th committee? >> congressman brooks: supreme court justice who found significant voter fraud and nursing homes in the state of wisconsin. look at the 2,000 mules documentary that has come out. look at how many mass mail out of ballots there were a cross do not it states for which you have no security buried >> sandra: okay, and that has been looked at and fact-checked by multiple outlets, including writers, who have debunked that as any sort of proof that there was widespread voter fraud. january 6th -- >> congressman brooks: are absolutely long. to keep going with that story if you wish. >> sandra: thank you, sir, respectfully, i want to move on to january 6th and the committee buried at even subpoenaed? have even served a subpoena as it has been confirmed for other republican congressmen have? >> congressman brooks: i don't know if the committee has issued a subpoena or not because i
haven't been privy to any conversations with them. all i hear our media reports but i can say for a fact that i have not been -- that i have not been served with any kind of documentation and there is no subpoena until it's been served on the person to whom it is directed buried >> sandra: okay, and you have signaled this week that yoe not going to comply unless certain conditions are met coming including testifying in public. should we expect to, if you are indeed served or have been served, to see you testifying in public before this committee? >> congressman brooks: well, i have to get with my colleagues who have been purportedly subpoenaed -- at least they say they have been served. i don't know why i haven't and some of them have. i guess with kevin mccarthy, he went out of his way to ac service but i've looked at some of their communications too. if the witch hunt committee. and i believe that some of their communications have merit, but the things with me that are required is first it's got to be public, it's got to be something that you a fox news can have a
camera on, so that the american people can see it. no more of this clandestine meeting stuff, secret meeting stuff involving the public's business. no more these little leakages, okay? it's got to be in public, it's got e congressmen to congressmen, it's better to be limited to issues associated with january the 6th and it has to be after the senate primary is over with. i don't want this witch hunt committee and nancy pelosi trying to interfere with a republican primary election for the united states senate in alabama buried >> sandra: congress and, lastly, looking ahead. if you win this runoff, what is the plan to win in november? >> congressman brooks: well, i'm going to be the democrats. i have a hry of beating democrats like a drum and i have no reason to believe this election in november would be any different. they are socialist, dictatorial, amoral, absolutely the opposite of what we believe in in a state of alabama. my record against democrats is 14 wins, zero losses. that's a pretty good record and i will defend that against any other comer -- none of the other
republicans running in this race have won even a single election. none of them ever held public office before. i'm the only one that's ever held public office, i'm the only one who's ever beat the democrats and unlike in 2017 when we elected a democrat to the united states senate from ruby red alabama, if mo brooks is the nominee, it ain't happening and if you want to help, please go to mo brooks.com buried >> sandra: thank you very much for joining us here runs a "fox news sunday," so is good to speak with you. >> congressman brooks: my pleasure, very lively. >> sandra: okay. up next we will bring our sunday pane discuss the debate over gun control and the fate of former president trump's favorite candidates in these tough midterm battles. ♪ ♪ because her small culinary supply store, titans pans, is up and running. and this, is nfl star derrick henry, accidentally tagging “titans pans,” and this, is nfl star instead of his loyal fans. which, very unexpectedly, has her business trending. and trending. and trending. and oh my.
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rights. >> sandra: president biden and former president trump both speaking this week on the politi of gun control after tuesday's mass shooting buried and it is time now for our su group. fox news senior political analyst brit hume. politico congressional correspondent olivia beavers and fox news political analyst juan williams. welcome to you all, thank you for being here today. >> thank you, senato >> good morning. >> sandra: juan, start with you first. there is a newer form for federal gun registration right now. democrats have not been able to succeed in the past to reform gun laws, even after sandy hook. will this time be different? >> sandra, good morning. get done.ical that anything can you know, stopping mass murders shouldn't be political, but it clearly is, and nothing was done to congress after newtown in 2012 when even more children were slaughtered by a gunman.
if you know, if the man from mars landed here fr today and sw us so divided that we can even deal with policies to stop mass murder of children, i think he would just be in disbelief. but you know, right now with uvalde on our heels and buffalo, i think there is growing public frustration and as a result, some pressure on the congress, so you may see some marginal steps taken that most likely is a red flag law. you were discussing that with congressman brooks, but there's also thoughts about more mental health care resources being given from the government to local government and then there is some hope for possibility of background checks. again, the american people overwhelmingly support this, gun owners as well as people who don't own guns. and there is some thought even, but unlikely, of maybe raising the age to 21 because we've seen that very young pe,
18-year-olds, you know, going into a gun store, buying these assault type weapons, you know, huge amounts of ammunition, body armor, that should raise a lot of concerns. >> sandra: britt, both texas governor greg abbott and texas lieutenant governor dan patrick canceled there in person appearances at the nra convention in texas after this shooting buried in doing so, patrick said he didn't want to to these families in uvalde that are still suffering in this moment, but several high-profile republicans, including former president trump, did appear in person. is that insensitive? >> you're asking me, sandra? >> sandra: yeah. >> i suppose so. the truth is it's -- you know, if the thing had happened -- if the shooting had happened in washington, d.c., and the dash and the convention were happening somewhere in the same distance away in another state, n't think it would have had
the same -- because the same reaction. you know, i suppose from appearances sake that you could say showing up at the nra convention was insensitive to the people in uvalde, but i doubt any of them were paying very much attention to that. these are -- whether you want or didn't go, it's a political gesture all the way around. >> sandra: olivia, to the midterm elections now, katie britt and mo brooks, with whom we just spoke, are heading to a senate primary runoff in alabama. in the last few s, he has been surging despite a very public repudiation from former ident trump. what does that say about the power of the trump endorsement? is it waning? >> donald trump's endorsement, i remember asking jim jordan about this a couple weeks ago, what happens if, you know, candidates will get his endorsement lose, does that mean that his influence is waning, and he said this is the most important endorsement in the republican party, and i think that's a fair thing to say. it an end all be all?
it does not appear so if you look down in georgia. in this case, when he lost the endorsement, mo brooks kept on pushing forward when katie britt was focusing on mike durrant in this primary and katie britt has had a soaring campaign. i think she went for maybe 4% of having republican support in the state when she first launched a campaign to having 44%, a 15-point lead over brooks, so we are seeing this runoff. we will see if donald trump gets involved in this primary race, but clearly it wasn't a kiss of death for mo brooks. >> sandra: i want to get to the primary results in georgia. by first bringing back up this "wall street journal" piece from this morning, the wisconsin g.o.p. apostate's latest meltdown, asking why do republicans seem so determined to lose the november elections. in it it says this. "this week's primary results in georgia prove that most republican voters are ready to stop looking backward at 2020 and start going to get some real work done for their states and
their country, time to leave 2020 behind." so, governor brian kemp overwhelmingly won the blican primary for georgia, feeding trump-backed candidate, florida senator david purdue, by more than 50 points, huge margin. give us your take on what this all means for donald trump and his power over the republican party. >> he remains a highly influential figure in republican politics and it may well be true that his endorsement is worth more than any other single individual's endorsement, but the evidence from georgia is pretty clear. this was the big one for him. he badly wanted to defeat brian kemp because hlt brian kemp didn't stand up for him when the election was allegedly stolen, and he also wanted to see if brad raffensperger, the candidate -- the incumbent candidate for secretary of state go do both men won. as you noted, kemp won by a huge margin, which suggests to me that is important as a trump endorsement can be, his influence is starting to wane.
people are, as "the wall street journal" suggests, looking ahead and not back and i don't think that any candidate who wins the nomination on the republican party and goes inte fall election talk about what donald trump seems to want to talk about, which is how the election in 2020 was stolen, it's going to find that a very powerful message at a time when so many other issues of greater day-to-day importance to people are crowding that issue while out of sight. >> sandra: olivia, finally, to pennsylvania's republican primary, officially headed for a recount. dr. oz currently leads david mccormick by less than a thousand votes there when he's declared himself the presumptive nominee. he did so on friday. is dr. oz getting ahead of himself here? >> it looks like is taking a page out of donald trump's playbook, which is exactly what donald trump advised him to do. you know, this is going -- both mccormick and dr. oz have hired an army of lawyers and they are playing it out about whether these undated ballots
are going to be counted and we are going to see how that plays out, but right now, oz is trying to claim he has the nominee and we are just not clear yet with this recount. so, you know, we will find out soon enough. >> sandra: all right, many thanks to our panel. we are going to take a quick break right. we will see you shortly next. overshadowed by guolence, the white house this week taking unilateral action on criminal justice reform. we will bring in senator ben cardin to discuss the moves and state of negotiations on capitol hill. ♪ ♪ (vo) while you may not be running an architectural firm, tending hives of honeybees, and mentoring a teenager — your life is just as unique. your raymond james financial advisor gets to know you, your passions, and the way you help others. so you can live your life.
♪ ♪ >> sandra: president biden this week signed an executive order on police reform aimed to increase accountability and bringing trust between law enforcement and communities. it comes two years after the death of george floyd and as the u.s. continues to see a spike in crime. in just a moment we will ask senator ben cardin about these reforms and about the prospect for bipartisan moves ongoing legislation. but first, to kevin corke. he's live in washington forest with the latest on the talks on both sides of the aisle. hi, ken buried >> as the president and first lady travel to texas to
comfort the families of those killed in lastk's stating shooting, back here in washington, battle lines, as you well know, have been drawn by congressional lawmakers over how best to address gun violence, though i think it's fair to say the sides may actually be closer than ever to finding some common ground. >> i don't kw whether we will be able to get 60 votes in the senate, but i'm going to do my best to try. >> that's the hope from congressional democrats and even some republicans, that this time lawmakers from both sides of the aisle will support some measure of "common sense g legislation." >> i think there's a sense of, you know, urgency that maybe we didn't feel before. >> as they do so, the white house is hopine upper chamber will soon confirm the first permanent atf director in seven years, though the nomination faces political headwinds. ass the white house, on a number of fronts. especially with the out of stock rate for baby formula rising to 70% nationwide, up from 45% a
week ago. gas prices surgingthis holiday weekend in particular, the price per gallon of gas nationwide up over $4.59 a gallon, an all-time record high. migrant board of trustees reaching numbers never before by border patrol agents. there may be just a bit of good news for the white house to report. we crm the friday the inflation method actually have peaked with the annual price change for the personal consumption price index, or pce, as you know welcome center, that's down from 6.6% in march. we will have to see how mae plays out, sandra buried >> sandra: just a little bit of hope that inflation may be topping out. >> may be. >> sandra: that's one data point, we will see what happens. thank you very much, kevin corke, reporting live from washington, thank you. joining us now for marilyn, senator ben cardin, welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> senator cardin: sandra, it's good to be with you, thank you.
>> sandra: let's start with prospects for reform. can democrats deliver ten republican senators on any gun reform legislation? your take. >> senator cardin: the jury is out on that. we've tried on sony different issues and have not been successful even to start debate, whether we deal with gun safety issues or we deal with immigrn or we deal even with we've been not been able to get ten senators to even start debates. if we are going to have to wait to see. i think the urgency is there. i was listening to senator cornyn, i really do think there is a real urgency that we caow that we can act act. i'm confident if we can get a bill on the floor and the gun issues and can pass it, it will be the right signal to the american people. it probably won't go as far as i would like to see us go, but it will at least show that congress can act. >> sandra: even some republicans who have signaled openness to reforms also point out how complicated this really is.
here is senator lindsey graham on that. >> this man had no criminal record. he shot his grandmother in the face, he lawfully purchased a gun. i don't know how -- i can't tell people that i can think of a law that would have stopped this particular shooting. are there other things we can do? yeah. let's see if we can. andra: your response to that, senator? >> senator cardin: i think we can do some things that will save lives. i think the red flags background checks, these issues will save some lives. i like to go further than that, investing in mental health is good also. but the military style weapons, i think getting them off the street would be very helpful in saving lives. will it save our lives? no, but america is an outlier in gun violence. we are in a class by ourselves. we have to ask why. one of the reasons is the fact that it's so easy to get these military style weapons. particularly an 18 euro being
able to buy that type of weapon, i think it raises questions about america and our laws compared to the rest of the nation -- world. >> sandra: senator -- senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, sir, has blessed some gun reform negotiations, but in the past, he's been open to conversations, yet ultimately doesn't support reform bills. listen. >> i don't want to overstate my optimism though. charlie brow enough to know that up until now the football has been pulled out from under me every single time. maybe this time is different. >> sandra: so when you look at the chances here, is mcconnell just going to pull the football out from underneath democrats again? >> senator cardin: well, we hope that these bipartisan negotiations will lead to a critical mass of republicans that will be able to delivert least ten votes so that we have a debate on the floor of the united states senate.
the united states senate is known as the great deliberative body, but if we can't even get a bill on the floor to debate, where are we? i mean, this is an issue that the american public expects us to act. enough is enough. congress needs to act, needs to take action that can help avoid these types of tragedies. elementarychool children being gunned down? we've got to do something. and clearly the gun safety issues are one, mental health is another. there's a lot of areas that we can make progress and wed to debate that and come together as a body in order to keep our children safer. >> sandra: this is also happening in the middle of the texas gubernatorial race. take a look at this moment when democratic candidate o'rourke confronted texas governor greg abbott. >> excuse me. >> sit down. >> you're out of line and in embarrassment. >> sit down and don't play this stuff. >> you are doing nothing.
>> no, he needs to get his leap out of here. >> this is totally predictable. >> sir, you're out of line. >> sandra: senator cardin, oily democrats are frustrated, the country is frustrated, b does that sort of confrontation help matters? >> senator cardin: at this moment, i'm hopeful that democrats and republicans will come together and recognize the safety of our children, the safety of our community needs to come first. so that's where we hope that this bipartisan group will be able to come together with some legislative action that will give the public confidence that we are trying to deal with this issue. >> sandra: but were you specifically, sir -- were you okay with nfrontation? >> senator cardin: i didn't see the video, i can't see it because of where i am right now. i'm for us being honest with each other and listening to each other and making it clear that our frustration is there, america is an outlier, we need
to recognize that, we need to make our communities safer, and we got to make our schools safe. if that's an area where parents send their children, expected to be a place of safety. i know there's a lot of frustration, a lot of anger, a lot of fear that's out there. let's come together and do something about it. >> sandra: okay, so the president will be in texas today, heading there right now, and is pressing for action. but here's white house press secretary, listen. >> we leave the mechanics to senator schumer, we want to see action. that is what we are calling for -- but again, we leave it to the leadership, the democratic leadership, to figure out how they're going to move this forward. >> sandra: iat enough for you or should the white house be doing more on its own to get something here? >> senator cardin: i thinkt this moment we need to have at least ten republican senators that will allow us to move forward on the senate debate. senator schumer is our point person on that. he's the one that's delegated to
get that type of support, working with senator connell. if obviously the president is going to be engaged. he's been veryaged, president biden has been very much engaged in senator liberations, i'm sure he will continue to do that. >> sandra: congress an remains deadlocked on police reform and has been for years but this week the president used his powers to sign an executor order focused on federal law enforcement, which include the creation of a database to help track police officer misconduct. some police groups celebrated the order as a reprint for further congressional action while others are dismissing it as political theater and faltered at fort opaqueness. it all comes at a time of spiking crime coast-to-coast in his country and as republicans hammer your party for being soft on crime and not doing enough to support our police. so, senator, is this going to bring real change or was this just as symbolic photo? >> senator cardin: i think with tresident it is very important to get the data so we know exactly what we're talking
about, sharing that information, providing resources to train police officers on sensitivities of communities. i think all that are important best practices, establishing best practices in the use of force. all that are important investments. what i prefer the united states senate to tahis issue up and pay us sensible reform? absolutely, but once again we could not get 60 votes, couldn't get the republicans to join us on the senate for discussion of this, but i thk with the president it is the exact message and i'm glad to see it's receiving a warm response from our law enforcement. >> sandra: i want to finish off with an issue every american cares about in this moment, that is inflation. mill are hitting the road for the holiday weekend, sir, and they are paying record high gas prices. truckers are feeling the pain, grocery bills are sky-high. what is the plan, sir, to bring these prices down? >> senator cardin: sandra, i agree. we have -- american families are confronting price increases, they're having a hard time
dealing with their family budgets,rgy costs are way too high, the president is taking some steps to ease that but the release of our reserves, we recognize the international circumstances was a war in ukraine and energy prices are not determined here in the united states, but we need to do more about it. our game plan is to deal with the call centers affecting american families, dealing with the cost of health care, prescription drugs, hoping to have action in those areas come as a deal with the cost of child care. the president has a plan on that. we hope we will have cooperation from the republicans and we can get some issues that really affect the average american family's budget buried >> sandra: as sky-high gas prices remain and is inflicting a lot of pain on american families, so this is clearly biggest issues come novemberthe elections. thank you very much for joining us, senator cardin, always good to talk to you, thank you. >> senator cardin: have a nice holiday, good to be with you. >> sandra: you as well. up next, we are back with our
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♪ ♪ >> sandra: and we are back with our panel now. juan, to your first -- thanks again toll of you for joining us -- the supreme court is expecting to rule on a huge second amendment rights case in just the next few weeks and it may lead to looser gun laws. it's a challenge to a new york state regulation that requires residents demonstrate a "actual and articulable need to have a concealed weapon in public." considering that and other recent of elements, to expect, juan, democrats to push for either court reforms or an expanded court? >> you know, i think it's important to note here that that case or talk about in new york state, sandra, has been upheld by lower courts.
i think there are seven states, including most american big cities are covered by a requirement that you have to prove a need to carry a gun in public at all times. in 2008 the supreme court said you can keep a gun at home. they s about mental illness and people who are convicted felons being excluded, but they said that's right. in this case, the question is can you carry a gun on the subway, to a stadium and sporting event? you know, what about in a government building? and so i think that there's going to be great frustration. you mentioned the democrats, but i think publicly, if the idea is that people can just carry guns all around, and i think that you're going to see some expression that, you know, you have three trumped justices pushing this court to the right and taking cases like this would seem to divide the country. >> sandra: i will let britt respond to that and also point out that you rewind a couple weeks and the court was already under a lot of scrutiny and
pressure afthat draft opinion on abortion was leaked. one expert on the court saying "i can't recall the last time the supreme court ruled in so many cases likely to spark a strong bullet of. are we, brit, seeing a departure from the more incremental record of the john roberts court? >> well, i think if they overturn roe vs. wade we could certainly say that. that of course looks like it could happen because of that draft opinion that leaked, but it's not clear that will be the final judgment. it will be interesting to see what they do in this second amendment case. it's a little hard for me to believe that the court, having upheld the right to keep and bear firearm as a constitutional right is prepared to go along with the idea that in order to exercise that right you've got to check in with your local government agency to prove that you need it. interesting to see how the court to craft an opinion on that but i have a feeling that regulation may be in trouble. >> sandra: the president signed an executive order on policing this week, marking two
years since the death of george floyd in police custody, this after high-profile effort to pass criminal justice reforms in the senate ultimately failed. so is this order enough to please the progressives who have long hoped for substantive change? >> i think that they're going to say that this is a good step but in terms of incrementalism, they are deftly going to want to push for more changes in police form. it's just a start in their mind, but for the time being, they are going be happy that they are pushing this advancement. >> sandra: very interesting stuff, thank you very much to our panel for joining us on all that. thank you very much. and we will see you next sunday. up next, a look at the best advice commencement speakers had for the class of 2022. for the class of 2022. ♪ ♪ es you hope the more you give the less they'll miss. but even if your teen was vaccinated against meningitis in the past they may be missing vaccination for meningitis b.
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allow yourself the space for self-awareness, you will arrive at a place where you can grow. >> your voice has power, and you have to use your voice even if it shakespearean there are times when you'll ask for change and are times when you'll have to create it. your life has purpose, so it's important to live a life of purpose. >> so here's what i believe. seek your purpose and you will find happiness. seek happiness and you will find neither. >> adversity doesn't create character. adversity reveals character. men and women, when the challenges come -- and they surely will -- you will be, in that moment, the person you have
been preparing to be in every quiet moment before that. >> graduates, i look at this unsettled world, and yes, i then see the challenges, but i'm here to tell you, i also see the opportunities. the portunities for your leadership. >> president biden: i cannot promise you the way will be straight for the sailing will be easy. but i can promise you that you all have the tools needed to navigate any waters you encounter. >> decide what is yours to hold and let the rest go. often times the good things in your life are later anyway, so there's more room for them. >> persistence is my greatest talent. r give up, never close a door on your life, always
persist. i don't define myself by my job. i'm not just a doctor, nurse just a comedian, i'm not an annoying overactive. i persisted in knowing the world for decades and the world relented. i'm just me. >> you are prepared, tischs. you've got the goods, tischs, you've earned the confidence tischs! you are the nyu elite and you are going to go out there in the real world and kick some creative ass! can i get a hell yeah! >> sandra: on that notur best wishes he students and rents of the class of 2022. and that does it for us here today. thank you so much for joining us, i'm sandra smith. i will see you again tuesday for america reports on the fox news channel. that's each weekday at 1:00 p.m. eastern time.
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