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forecast for today, but by tuesday and wednesday, upper eighties so more comfortable for our inland cities been really hot, rosemary, you keep talking. i'm eating. alright well, christian, you're going to join christian, you're going to join >> shannon: i'm shannon bream. president biden back from his high-stakes trips to the middle east and a meeting with the world's largest exporter of oil as high gas prices fuel public anger at home. ♪ ♪ >> president biden: i'm doing all i can to increase the supply for the united states of america, which i expect to happen. the saudis share that urgency buried >> shannon: the president asserting the overseas visit was all about reasserting influence in the region, but getting slammed for that fist bump with the saudi prince. if while americans still face high gas prices and the country hits another record on inflation. we will ask jared bernstein, a member of the president 's council of economic advisors, about rising recession fears. then, former president trump
claims he's already made a decision on 2024, he's just not timing of that decision will impact the republican party and midterms, only on "fox news sunday." plus, our sunday panel breaks down brand-new fox news national polls, all right now on "fox news sunday." ♪ ♪ >> shannon: and logan from fox news in washington. president joe biden back at the white house and not bringing solutions back with him from the middle east to the many poetical problems like sky high gas prices plaguing him here at home. new fox news poll's we will bring you this our show majority of americans disapprove of the job he's doing at his handling of the economy. hotter than expected june inflation report leaves wall street bracing for another big fed rate hike to cool it all down. in a moment we will ask white house economic advisor jared bernstein what the plan is
to address the surgeon prices. but first, let's turn to aishah hasnie live at the white house with more on the controversy surrounding the president trip. aishah. >> good morning to you. the president is back home from a very busy four-day trip to the middle east, overshadowed by one moment. it was the fist bump seen around the world, the president with saudi crown prince mohammad bin salman on, demand the u.s. hold responsible for the murder of journalist mawkish okay. >> president biden: he basically said that he was not personally responsible for it. i indicated i thought he was. >> the broadly criticized greeting was called shameful and worse than a handshake by his employer and the publisher of "the washington post." and his fiancee tweeting the blood of mbs's next victim is on biden's hands. >> president biden: i'm sorry she feels that way, i didn't come here to meet with the crown
prince. i came here to meet with the gcc and nine nations. >> the president's mideast tour began with meetings with israeli and palestinian leaders. biden embraced the trump era abraham accords, announced aid to the palestinians, and brokered a deal with saudi arabia to open its airspace to flights into and out of israel. the president said his he also discussed energy with a male or oil producer. i'm doing all i can to increase the supply. i expect we will see further steps in the coming weeks. >> that would be a welcome relief for americans were now paying an average $4.50 a gallon for unleaded, down slightly from the record just a month ago. meanwhile, inflation is soaring and so is the price for just about everything. groceries, household items, and even airfare is up significantly from a year ago. but the white house argues that consumer price index for june is "out of date" because it doesn't
reflect the recent drop in energy prices. even democrats though have had enough. >> i think people can feel and see spin and i don't think they like it. >> inflation is what west virginia senator joe manchin blamed for single-handedly tanking any hopes for climate change and energy funding in the party of us of his latest economic package. the president bowing to step with executive action as progressives/out. >> it's infuriating, it's frustrating. it's kind of predicable. >> we are going to have to just elect a couple more democrats. >> shannon, the president comes home to some pretty new brutal numbers. according to a brand-new fox news poll just released today, just 25% of americans approve of his job on inflation, 40% approve of his job overall. shannon. spoon aishah hasnie reporting live from the white house for us, thank you so much today. joining us here in washington, white house economic advisor jared bernstein.
thank you for being with us on "fox news sunday." >> jared: my pleasure, shannon. >> shannon: it's been almost a year to the day since president biden last year said that no serious economists thought that we would enter a period of unchecked inflation. we were at 5.4% then, we are at 9.1% as of this week. how to the white house get this all wrong? >> jared: that actually was the dominant forecast at the time and we were very much siting forecast across the board, including those of the federal reserve emma and i think there are number of issues. one is that there were some unforeseen things that occurred. for example, a war in ukraine. now, ukraine and russia are both bread baskets and energy baskets for the world, and those have put considerable upward pressure on prices. so for example, inflation, which is unacceptable he high, let's get that clear right out of the gate, went up 1.3% in june. again, unacceptably high increase. half of that increase is energy prices alone. since then the price of gas has come down $0.50 a gallon.
there are no 20,000 gas stations across this country where gas is below $4 a gallon. still too high, but that's moving in the right direction, giving americans some much-needed breathing room. they need more and we are working on it, but that is a move in the right direction. >> shannon: let's talk about how american families are feeling because we have brand-new fox news polling on this. 70% of people that we pulled this week said your family has had to cut back to afford necessities. we also ask them to look forward, because we know these numbers we just got reflect backwards. so looking forward, we are also asking them have they had a financial hardship over the last six months, 75%, and where they think this is going. they also have a negative impression of where we will be a year from now, so what exact we are you doing? >> jared: that's a great question, and i think the key word in there is "affordability." economists like to talk about inflation. for real people, what that means is what they are paying at the pump, what they are paying in their everyday lives and their household budgets. this was a kitchen table issue
for president biden as he grew up, and that's what he has dispatched best to do everything we can to help. right now on the doct, something that democrats are actually aligned on is a plan to lower prescription drug, drug cost. i think everyone who hears me say that probably give some kind of an applause. everyone wants to see that happen, but while presidents have tried to make it happen for decades, it still hasn occurred. now, we pay two to three times purpose captioned drugs what europeans pay for precisely the same drugs, so it's time to stand up to big pharma, come together, do something on the affordability there. we also have plans for lowering health insurance premiums. 13 million people will see an increase of $800 on average in their health insurance premium if we don't extend the expansion for coverage under the aca, under the affordable care act. these are issues that are on the docket that should be concluded before august, and frankly,
should be concluded on a bipartisan measure, because if you care about inflation, and every policymaker should, certainly president biden does, it's time to stop pointing fingers and take action. >> shannon: it sounds like his domestic agenda is imperiled in part by senator joe manchin. there are talks about doing something big on climate change, closing loopholes along with these other things that are agreed upon, but he signaled this week he doesn't want to swing for the fences. he has been a fly in the oi met for the president for a lot of his domestic issues, but he's gotten a lot of praise for blocking spending and bigger packages from economists across the spectrum say joe manchin actually did the white house a favor by putting the brakes on some of that spending. doesn't sound like is in the mood for anymore. >> jared: let's talk about swinging for the fences when it comes to -- good base from afar. seasonally correct there. four -- on clean energy, because that's precisely what this president intends to do. he recognizes the urgency of taking action against climate
change and building up our clean energy industries, which are so important for good american jobs going forward. and if there's no legislative path forward, then he will take the executive order and rule change path. i shouldn't say he will take, i should really take is already taken. so this president has tackled aggressively climate change measures already. for example, he's tapped the defense production act to significantly ramp up the production of clean energy. he has set the most rigorous emissions standards yet to be set in this country, and he has helped to jump-start the offshore wind industry. those are all measures that he took by the power of the pen from executive action and rule changes, and he will continue to do that. on spending, let me say something on spending. i was looking at these numbers this morning, that's what i do on sunday morning to prep for our conversation.
the budget deficit is down 1.7 trillion this year. that's nine months of the fiscal year, so that's nine months of this fiscal year and $1 trillion reduction in the budget deficit. a 77% decline, the largest on record. so i think when it comes to spending i think the record is strong. >> shannon: to be fair, we are coming off of -- you know, everybody would agree if you're looking at hard data, off of enormous pandemic spending. >> jared: totally fair point buried >> shannon: when you look ahead, the congressional budget office says if you look at your 2023 through '32, they say 1.6 is going to be the deficit number that's going to be added every year and we are going to have the worst ratio with regard to gdp within a matter of a few years. >> jared: you raise a totally to totally legitimate point, which is that when you're coming off a period of high spending, they're going to see some declin. but here's the thing, if you look at the percentage contributions that 1.7 trillion in deficit reduction, 26% of
that decline is due to increased receipts, increased revenues. 18% is a function of lower spending. so spending fell 18%. revenues went up 26%, even faster. how do we get faster revenue increases in an economy that is taking hits that we've been talking about? it must be a much stronger economy than a lot of people are saying, and in fact that's the case. so no denial at all about the unacceptability of these elevated prices, and we talked about some of the actions we are taking, particularly in the energy space, but also when it comes to ports, getting shipped. we are doing every thing we can to help ease price pressures. congress needs to step up and do a lot more. but underlying that is an economy with the strongest labor market in generations spit enough revenues that are up 26% this fiscal year. >> shannon: let's talk gdp,
because it was negative in q1 and the atlanta fed is signaling it's going to be negative in q2. technically that meets the definition of a reception, does the white house acknowledged that we are likely in a recession? >> jared: this often gets confused. the technical definition of recession is actually not two quarters of negative gdp. >> shannon: it's generally accepted. >> jared: right, but it has to do much more with a number of economic variables. they are actually doing better right now. so payroll growth. it's one of the things of the folks who date recessions when they tell us what starts and stops, they look at consumer spending. payrolls and consumer spending are actually very strong on the payroll side and strong on the spending side as well and in fact one of the things we are seeing is people are traveling a lot, they are kind of taking up some of that pent-up demand they didn't get to tap during the downturn, during the pandemic, and that's contributing to strong consumer spending, strong retail sales, job growth, and on up limit rate of 3.6% for the past four months.
it is very hard to conclude that we are in a recession when you look at the payroll and the job gains that we've seen. now, it is tricky to look around the corner here, and i'm not going to predict quarters down the road, but right now you've got inflation headwinds big time in this economy, not taking anything away from that. but you also have some very strong tailwinds that are boosting consumers. now, some of that has the american rescue plan's finger prints all over that. especially the fact that families, at least on aggregate, have quite solid balance sheets, businesses as well. >> shannon: must talk but some of the headlines dealing with household, the first headline, consumer credit card debt and annual percentage rates are headed to an all-time high. ne headline, car repossessions are surging, and the next one, americans are eating into their pandemic savings to handle inflation. we know that consumer sentiment has been hitting record lows in recent months. what happens to american consumers spoke to file these things, they know their own spreadsheet looks like stop spending? >> jared: it's a 70% consumer
economy, so the question kind of answers itself. let's unpack some of the numbers who just brought. you talked about debt levels, and blood, when interest rates are going up and the federal reserve is of course aggressively pivoting to do their part on inflation, something the president has very much endorsed, that's always going to increase the cost of servicing your debt, but if you actually look at the numbers on this, debt service as a share of income is near historic lows, so why is that? you said it yourself, people have very high levels of savings on aggregate. i want to be clear, there are lots of folks were struggling with this high level of inflation, but you know, as are macroeconomists, when you look at the stock of savings in the economy, it's up there in the trillions in you said it exactly correctly, shannon, folks are tapping those savings to continue to keep consumer spending strong. now, i am here to tell you that would not be the case where it not for the american rescue plan getting shots in arms and checks in pockets. the residual of that is still being felt.
>> shannon: there are limits to the savings though. >> jared: there are buried >> shannon: we look at wages up but inflation far outpacing nearly every sector. the greatest tragedy for american workers, they are soft or dormant the largest reduction in real wages since the 1970s, they have fallen intent of the last 13 months, they've now fallen more than president -- and they did during the fifth recession caused by the financial crisis. >> jared: you made what i think is a really important point here. yes, savings -- elevated savings from the ski plan and other measures are very much helping to support consumer spending. the real buffer in this time of elevated inflation. but that can't go on forever, you're exactly right. what you need in the backdrop is a strong labor market, because that's where most people get their incomes from. we have the strongest labor market on record in history by many conventional metrics. 9 million jobs since this president got here. there's a lot of talk about his economic headwinds. if you look at this tailwind of
job growth, 375,000 jobs per month in the past three months. now, you made a point about wage growth. wage growth is actually pretty strong, but inflation is so high. and that's with the president's agenda is all about. helping families afford scripting drugs, lowering the health insurance premium, something congress, i'm looking at the capital of the window here, something that congress needs to act on the for the august recess, and i'm talking bipartisan. i have heard republicans say for the many decades i've been here, they want to lower prescription drugs. president trump talker devout -- talked about lauren prescript and drugs. we pay two to three times what people in other countries pay for the very same drugs. that is just an unconscionable tax on our seniors, and we should not only -- not only does that help people's bottom line in terms of fort ability, it saves medicare $100 billion over ten years. so we should do that tomorrow, affordability. question on >> shannon: we will see if they are listening to, they are
just on the block on l. >> jared: i'm talking loud enough for them to hear me. i get fired up about this. >> shannon: we will see if they get your passion. jared bernstein, thank you very much. >> jared: it's been great talking with you. >> shannon: qaddafi with us. up next, former president trump's endorsement has been a boon for some, if us for others this election cycle. we will bring in senator rick scott to discuss that and whether a 24 announcement by the former president could help or hurt republicans efforts to win back the senate. ♪ ♪ dad's work, meet daughter's playtime. wait 'till you hear this— thankfully, meta portal helps reduce background noise. zero lace model. adjusts to low light. and pans and zooms to keep you in frame. take a look at this. so the whole team stays on track. okay, let's get you some feedback. i'm impressed. great, loving your work. meta portal. the smart video calling device that makes work from home, work for you. medium latte, half-caff, no foam.
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take back control of congress in the fall midterms, but there are concerns in recent weeks that some of the senate candidates running in and even those winning republican primaries could do more harm than good. these fears coming as former president donald trump teases a third white house bid, potentially announcing before midterms, or even over. joining us now, far to senator rick scott, who leads the senate republican campaigns. welcome back to "fox news sunday." >> senator scott: always great to be with you, shannon. we've got great candidates, it's going to be a great year. we just have to raise our money and run our races, but the biden agenda is horrible. this inflation -- i mean, what jared bernstein talked about, he's not talking to real people. people are getting their cars repossessed, people have to go to food banks. gas prices, food prices. american public are frustrated because this is hurting so many people in my state, so i think this is going to be a bloodbath for the democrats this year. >> shannon: so assuming that you have a good year, and republicans take back the senate and the house, the question is then what will you all do to make things better?
an opinion piece over at msnbc says the g.o.p. keeps slamming biden over inflation, but it has no solutions to offer. it says we all get how politics works, the party out of power blames the party in power for everything that's bad, but in this case, inflation is directly impacting the lives of all americans. what is the g.o.p. plan to reduce it? americans deserve an answer. so senator, what is your answer to the question? >> senator scott: sure. i put out a plan, rescue america.com. but here's what we have to do. we have to balance the budget. this is caused by reckless spending. every proposal democrats have is spend your money. spend more money. we've got to reduce taxes, reduce fees, reduce the size of government. we've got to become energy independent. don't go to saudi arabia and begged them for el. if we go to texas and ask them to get more fuel. fix the supply chain. the biden demonstration is a bunch of do-nothing people that all they do is blame. balance the budget, start with
that. that's the simplest thing we have to do. if you figure how to balance our budget, we can do it and reduce the cost of government. it's way too high. stop spending money. >> shannon: the government is good at that under republicans and democrats alike. there is a spending fever here in washington and you mentioned lowering taxes. because that point him up, i want to bring up what the president said in cleveland just a few days ago, talking about tagging you with the issue of taxes. here's what president biden said. >> president biden: rick scott from florida, who heads up the republican campaign committee, put out the plan. what does the plan do? it makes the system less fair by wanting to tax everybody making under $100,000 significantly more on average a lot more money. it actually raises taxes on those working families because he things you don't pay enough in taxes already. >> shannon: your response to the president? >> senator scott: first off, i've always cut taxes, never voted to raise taxes.
the democrats and biden even now want to raise taxes in every tax bracket. here's what i believe. we've got to get americans back to work. if you are able bodied, you have young children, you know, incapacity dependent, get to work. when you go to work, guess what? you pay taxes, you pay income taxes and you pay sales tax and you buy things. but with the president wants to do is every proposal he has is to raise everybody's taxes. my proposal, do what i did as governor, get people back to work. when i was governor we have 1.7 million jobs. that's how you get everybody to have skin in the game. but the democrats, they want to spend your money. their idea on how do we do -- reduce premiums for somebody? it's not to create a better delivery system in health care, no, it's to raise your taxes. and we arty have $30 trillion worth of debt on the biden agenda is to take it to 45. it's why we have the inflation we have. that's why gas prices are up. why is gas up so much?
it's because biden and the democrats, they have -- they have an agenda to get rid of fossil fuel. that's horrible for this country. we should be energy independent. >> shannon: to take on the agenda change that you would like to see will require more g.o.p. senators in the senate. let's talk a bit some of the headlines as you are working to lead that effort. "usa today," rick scott leads the republican bid to regain the senate. most candidates are struggling. "washington post," candidate challenges, primary scars have g.o.p. worried about senate chances. new york magazine said six off oral g.o.p. candidates who could save the democrat accented. and axios said this, confident about winning control of the midterms fear they will blow it after several depot thought candidates and one of the states. according to strategists, posters and other officials. what are your expectations? is there overconfidence among republicans? >> senator scott: well, there's an election, we have to work hard. but we have great candidates. we could potentially pick up six seats. we've got great candidates all across this country.
the biden agenda is horrible. look, we have to raise our money, the democrats are raising money. if you want to help, text win to 55404. we have great candidates. we are going to have a great year. it's nice of the democrats to talk about her candidates but raphael warnock. they've all lied about the position, all of them, they are all moderates, and then they vote with chuck schumer 100% of the time, so they have to go home, they have to explain why they vote with chuck schumer and why they vote to causeas prices go up, why they vote for more government spending. that's what they have to do. we are going to have a great year. >> shannon: you mentioned fund-raising. axios took note of this yesterday and they said the senate g.o.p. money flock, that was their headline. they said top senate candidates turned in poor numbers and key races from arizona to new hampshire. as if g.o.p. donors don't realize a senate majority is in reach or wrongly think it's a sure thing and it's clear they don't like a lot of the trump
candidates. that comes in contrast to democrats having some major halls. so where are you on fund-raising, why the deficit compared to the democratic candidates? >> senator scott: historically democrats have raised more money than us but we had record funding at the national republican committee, we are going to raise more. i'm talking to our candidates every week, they are out there raising money. bucket ron johnson, his fund-raising. you look at herschel walker and marco rubio. we have great fund-raising, but we need more. the democrats are doing a good job this year raising money, that's why i tell people you've got to help us. we have every reason to believe we can win. people are fed up, just fed up with the biden agenda. they are sick and tired of $5 gas, food prices up, all this stuff. they are sick of it. so we just got to raise our money and get our message out. >> shannon: one of our brand-new fox news poll's, laying out a lot of these exclusively this morning, is who cares more about people like you. we asked voters. they can be -- give the edge to democrats, saying more of them care about voters then do the republican party, so hard he
worked to change that perception at a time people are really hurting, and that matters going to the midterms. >> senator scott: i think first off you have to show up. i know when i've done my races, you show up, talk to as many people as you can, you listen to their problems. i did it all day yesterday at a variety of events, listening to people's issues, but that's how we have to do it. i shook hands with half a million people while i was governor. yesterday probably shook hands with two or 300 people, talked about their issues. we had a significant hispanic event yesterday, hispanics are going to vote our way because they are fed up with the government, they are fed up with a public school system, they are fed up with the government that's because their prices to go up so we just got to get out there and talk to them. when we do, we win and we are going to emigrate win this november. >> shannon: let's talk about one of your most prominent constituents down there, former president trump saying essentially he's made a decision about 2024. here's one of the headlines about the timing potentially of an announcement. it's as donald trump looks to fall launch for 2024, potentially upending midterms going on to say some republicans
fear an announcement will undercut them at a time they have a strong chance of retaking the house and senate. it goes on to quote prominent republican strategist. it says about the selfish things he does every minute of every day, it will probably be the most, everything we're doing that is not talking about the economy is going to be a disaster. do you have a sense of the president's decision, of his timing, and are you worried about how it impacts the midterms? does it turn it into a referendum on him versus these economic issues? >> senator scott: this year is going to be a referendum on biden. it's pretty simple. midterms are referendum on the president strategies, which are horrible, so this is not going to be about '24, it's going to be about '22 and a tell people all the time we got to continue to focus to win this november. we have every reason to believe we can win but this is going to be about gas prices and food prices and the democrats wanting to defund the police and critical race theory, things like that. it's going to be about three issues. inflation, my kids getting a good education, living in a safe community.
and the democrats on the wrong side of those issues, every democrat, they voted on the wrong side of that issue for years. >> shannon: does president trump change the topics, change the topics before the midterms? >> senator scott: shannon, i think it's all going to be about what's happening in your family right now. people are focused on what happens to them. i mean, they care about their job and the inflation. take florida as an example. the cost of living -- the cost of living in florida is up $770 a month. a month! all right, inflation in florida is up almost 14% since joe biden got elected. that's the issue that people are going to focus on. they know that the democrats are causing this with reckless spending and shannon, they want to spend more, they got a variety of bills, they want to spend more money. people know you can't keep doing that. families can't do it. why would anybody believe your government can do it? >> shannon: the polls show is over and over again, including the new pulse with got up today, the people are hurting and they blame the biden administration at this point.
we know you're working around-the-clock on those fall races, we are following them all. senator rick scott, thank you for your time. up next we will bring in our sunder group to discuss the new fox news poll's on how the president is handling the economy and inflation as well as how he's doing with groups critical from the midterm wins. as a co (vo) while you may not be closing on a business deal while taking your mother and daughter on a
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and help californians >> president biden: we agree on the need to ensure adequate supplies to meet global needs. energy producers have already increased production. i look forward to seeing what's coming in the coming months. >> the kingdom will play its role in this era as it announced to increase the level of the maximum sustainable production capacity to more than 13 millio. beyond that, the kingdom will not have any further production capacity. >> shannon: president biden and saudi crown prince striking slightly different tones during meetings about increasing the global oil supply. time now for our sender group. joining me now, seen a politics part of axios, josh kraushaar buried former democratic national committee can communications director mo elleithee. kevin roberts, president of the heritage foundation and former state department spokesperson organ or take us, welcome to all of you. it has been a busy week and weekend for the white house. morgan, i'm going to start with you, the white house, do they
have any deliverables that they can talk about for mr. kumar already suit we see the saudis pushing back that the president has touted on this trip. >> is a little messy but also they want 17, 18 months without going to the region and so they sort of had to. i think it probably should have set expectations lower. you're going sort of with egg on your face. even pursuing a policy with israel and the saudis arch enemy, there are tribal, the islamic republic of iran. they've not been able to negotiate a deal, they probably want and if they get the iranians to sign on to anything it's going to run into headwinds from menendez and other democrats before you even get to the republicans. so you're going to the region hat in hand, having treated it as a very transactional relationship, asking for things the saudis are probably not willing to give. they did sign the jerusalem declaration in israel where they said iran would never get a nuclear weapon, i thought that was positive. saudis have appeared to open up airspace for israel flights. thank you to abraham cards that
i was part of in the trump administration for that happening. largely think that they squandered 18 months in the middle east, so low expectations because they just haven't placed the emphasis that they needed to with the allies. they are placing all their emphasis with the islamic republik of iran. >> shannon: there were a lot of people on both sides of the aisle who did not want them to go. they didn't think it was a good look for us to go there and are fox news poll and shows when you ask what you think of president biden's handling of the u.s. saudi relationship, 32% approve but 55% disapprove. >> this was part of a big strategic pivot from the biden administration. in the past when i've talked about saudi arabia it's been about human rights, jamal khashoggi, they haven't talked about strategic interests getting more interest, energy production and forming a bulwark against iran. those are two very important strategic goals. i think as morgan was saying, that kind of gotten back on the right track but the messaging has been mixed in the saudis don't seem willing to fully play ball. we don't have a real announcement getting the type of
energy production we were hoping for, the type of oil extraction that we thought they may announce before biden came back to washington. and yet, saudi arabia is allowing some airspace over israel, but we haven't seen the type of wide range agreement that some people have expected during the trip. >> shannon: we also have the fist bump, the fist bump heard around the world and among the critics of that our congressman adam schiff, a democrat, who tweeted this. "if we ever needed a visual reminder of the continuing grip oil-rich autocrats have on u.s. foreign policy in the middle east, we got it today. one fist bump is worth 1,000 words." moe. >> i mean, yeah. look, this wasn't a great thing. i don't think anyone wanted to see the president of the united states going off and giving a bear hug to an autocrat who is responsible for the murder of a journalist who lived in the united states. no one wanted to see that. but i would rather see a fist bump from the president of the united states than a bearhug
from vladimir putin, or from xi in china, because that's the alternative. the alternative is that we give up our strategic positioning in the middle east and russia and china are dancing around ready to swoop in. i think the president's right to keep human rights on the agenda. he is right to pressure the crown prince on khashoggi, but at a time when we cannot afford to give russia and china that kind of a foothold in the middle east and at a time when inflation, we are seeing soaring gas prices, we don't want to do anything to exacerbate the situation with oil. this trip was a necessity. >> shannon: let's talk about the president's performance on a couple of issues. our new fox news poll shows only ask about economy and inflation, the president is upside down by double digits in the negatives.
>> they are very much related to this previous threat, shannon, that is -- i tend to look at policy from the standpoint of the forgten american, people in the gulf coast and rocky mount west, regardless of the politics. when they see that fist mom, while they understand the presidents have to travel abroad, as mo and morgan have said, they also understand is a lack of fist bump when it comes to american oil and gas production. that's the solution to the problems you present in your question. if you want to lower inflation, we have to attack energy prices. we shouldn't be going to autocrats around the world doing that, we should be ramping up production here in texas, wyoming, north dakota, places the president doesn't want to travel. i have no problem with the president of the united states traveling internationally but if you want to attend to these problems in the polls, which we feel every time we fill up our tank, we go to the grocery store, stop giving fist bumps to autocrats and start giving fist bumps to the forgotten americans. >> shannon: let's talk about the climate situation, because democrats had really been pushing for this big package that would have gone after climate change issues, billions
of dollars on that closi taxabl, that kind of thing. the president is coming back to the situation where joe manchin has put the brakes on a lot of what he wants to do. i want to play some of the democrats who are overly talking about how mad they are at joe manchin. >> i'm extrema disappointed, because this isn't just one or two democrats agenda, this is the democratic agenda that he has been obstructing since the very beginning, and i think again it just shows very clearly that he is unable to close a deal, that you cannot trust what he says. >> mr. fossil fuel industry in the senate? how is he the one making the decision of our climate investment? >> shannon: we all have a stake the suspicion and hear the whispers here in washington that there are other democrats hiding behind joe manchin on these issues. >> is true. joe manchin is the lucy pulling the football away every time from the democratic party and they have a right to be frustrated in a 50/50 senate. but they've got to think about the interests in west virginia back home for joe manchin, who
is up for reelection in 2024. joe manchin is in one of the most republican states in the country, it's an energy-producing state where any move to green energy, any move to regulate the fossil fuel industry is going to be very unpopular and i think they put -- democrats have put all their hopes and raised their optimism unrealistically at joe manchin is suddenly going to give them this competence of social spending package that's going to involve tackling climate change. it never really was in the cards. joe manchin never has had the political interest to really play ball fully with his colleagues in the democratic party. >> shannon: you talk about he is obviously always trying to appeal to the voters at home for him in west virginia where it makes a big difference. we've also got polling here on president biden, how he's doing with key groups that he needs to win and the midterms and potentially if he's running for reelection. he is upside down again with a lot of these groups, with women, with moderates, people under age 30. with independents. i mean, that is 72% disapprove and 27% approve, those are tough members going to the midterms.
>> they are absolutely tough numbers, there's no way to sugarcoat it. i will say this. if the president has got to continue to get out there and make a case on the economy. that's number one. number two. number three. having said that, the best thing democrats have going for them in these midterms is that they are running against republicans who are in state after state after state particularly in the senate -- the house is a different story but particularly in the senate where you are seeing races that in an environment that should be devastating for democrats are far more competitive becse of the republican candidates, and the environment has changed, the the past few months.nged over so i think democrats have a lot of work to do, and they have to do it, because if those numbers continue to erode, it's going to be near impossible. but there is time, and the republicans have allowed the
conversation to change in a number of states, enough that democrats are still in the mix. >> shannon: we're going to talk a lot about those races. a quick break here first. up next, more polls and a look at which party has the edge in both fund-raising and voter enthusiasm headed straight into november. ♪ ♪
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>> i think it's a close election almost everywhere and it's a 50/50 country, so i think it's way too early for either side to be assuming they're going to have a great election or a disaster, for that matter, this fall. >> shannon: senate minority leader mitch mcconnell hedging his bets this week on whether republicans will win enough seats in midterms to retake control of the senate. we are back now with the panel. our overall congressional vote preference, democrat versus republican in our fox news poll and, for republicans still have a three-point advantage here, but like i asked the senator, there are these conversations about is the g.o.p. overconfident, could they be -- should they be managing expectations? >> i was want people to be excited about going to the polls, so i want to deliver that message, and your poll indicates that, that there's been a dissipation in support for both
sides by both democrats and republicans and i think it out to be a warning sign for people that are conservatives for two reasons, shannon. the first is that the climate has shifted, the political climate has shifted some since the dobbs decision, but politics also is a related reality. but the second is that it really does come down to candidates, and i think that while the conservative movement has done a good job of helping to recruit some good candidates, the thing that still hasn't happened that is a bit of a frustration for us in heritage and across the conservative movement, is that there isn't a unified set of policies around which conservative house majority and a conservative senate majority wants to govern. we are trying to keep their feet to the fire and that because as i like to say for me, it's far more important to be conservative than it is to be republican. i think, to sum up here, that if the republicans were to do that in their house and senate races, then you would start to see the american people come home and deliver large majorities. >> shannon: as we talked about, it's about the candidates.
new york magazine has this headline. "six off of candidates who could save his democratic senate." awesome pensioner, asters in arizona , got the primary spacing artist come up in missouri. and current senator johnson and wisconsin. they going to say fortunately for the donkey party, republicans have some senate nominees with real weaknesses, so organ, which races are you really watching for this potential? >> i think georgia definitely. and especially when you look at the trump-backed candidates like j.d. vance in ohio, like masters, he still has the primary as well. but you know, i think that it's a little too early for what the new yorker just wrote about the dash it's very early. people are notoing general election odds yet. democrats have clearly gotten up bounce and funding post-dobbs, but especially when you're looking at a statewide race, the fox news poll number that really struck me was that democrats and republicans are both extremely motivated by 67%. that's not something i think any
of us have seen in recent polling, at least in this election cycle. and so that i think is what really stuck out to me, because when you get into these statewide races, they e normally a few points apart anyway, and so does this hold? i remember in 2018 during kavanaugh we all got really excited and thought it we are actually not going to lose, and we famously did. so we will see if this enthusiasm holds, but that 67% number should stick out to ever republican senate candidate buried >> shannon: which of these races do you think are the best options for democrats? >> look, i think georgia is a really fascinating state where you've got a competitive governors race and a competitive senate race in the current polling shows them going and splitting -- going in opposite directions in a way that's very helpful to the democrats in the senate. i think pennsylvania is one of the democrats biggest pickup opportunities. a really fascinating race with two very colorful candidates, a
state that has been very purple and a battleground state at the presidential end of the senate level, but should be the kind of state that looks good for republicans in an environment like this is not looking good for republicans right now. i think ohio is a fascinating race right now, a state that has been slipping away from democrats over the past decade in a very real way. democrats have a candidate there who kind of fits perfectly what the voters would want in a democrat and the republicans have an exciting candidate, one who, as a democrat, i would say has some problematic comments. it's just a more competitive rates than anyone i would have inspected in an environment like this. and i think what's been said, the conversation has changed. conversation especially in the past few months because of the supreme court decision on abortion, because of the shootings in places like buffalo and in texas.
people were anxious. there's a lot of economic anxiety, but that economic anxiety is now spreading to other aspects of people's lives in a way that is not helpful to republicans. so i think -- right now i think the senate is a jump ball. >> shannon: so we had the economy at the top of the list is what people are worried about, but crime and other things that republicans feel like you're going to be good issues for them, but you mentioned the others that have people concerned as well. we also are all looking ahead this week to the prime time hearing of the january 6th committee on thursday night, and there's been a lot of conversation about whether this taints president trump's ability to run again. the committee is not -- they have no power to prosecute, and they also don't seem to be cooperating with the doj, josh, at this point. what is the point of this committee? >> the prime time hearing, and this could the primary hearing about the january 6th, the riots, it's going to be what trump knew and how long he knew it, and the political impact of the hearings writ large, i don't think it's going to have a dramatic impact republicans soe
second thoughts about supporting former president trump again. speaking of the midterms, there is reporting that he might want to announce before the november midterm elections. that's the last thing republicans want, because it will do what mel has been talking about. refocused elections on a personality rather than the policies. >> shannon: another one of our polls as people do you want president biden, president trump to run again. democrats, 51% said they would be okay with president biden running again. 67% of republicans say they they would be good with president trump being their guy again on the ballot. >> i've certainly seen that on the campaign trail. there is still a lot of trump enthusiasm. this probably difference between donors and where the grassroots are, but he ran in 2016 about the donor base and he still famously became the president. i think what we are going to see going forward is especially on a trial like the january 6th hearings i don't think you will ever see another instance where republicans aren't involved.
the argument that republicans made not to be involved is very process-oriented. nancy pelosi didn't let two people on, and even during the trump impeachment over russiagate, even during all of that, you had republicans standing up and defending him in a way that you don't have any's prime time hearings because they are not involved. i think it was a mistake. >> shannon: very quickly, i want to ask you, does committee potentially do republicans a favor if they so tired in some way present a but he can't and that solves the big interparty fight for 2024 potentially? quickly. >> may be, but i think the committees goal is more about saving the republic then saving the republicans. so having donald trump never back in the oval office, i think a lot of people would be okay with buried >> shannon: average, gentlemen and lady, we got to leave it there, thank you, panel, see you next "fox news sunday." up next, "fox news sunday" says farewell to a friend this week, world war ii medal of honor recipient herschel woody williams. he served this country for a
might triumph over fascism. >> what he knew that true gratitude for missions service members was even deeper than metals. he made giving back a lifelong measure. >> shannon: heard from house speaker nancy pelosi and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell there, giving a final salute to one of america's true heroes this week. receiving a big honor here in washington. they are talking about herschel woody williams, who served in the battle of iwo jima. and he was the last surviving medal of honor recipient from world war ii. marines carried his casket into the capitol rotunda thursday where he laid in honor. it's a tribute reserve for the nation's most distinguished private citizens. williams died last month, leaving a special legacy, the start of a foundation to honor gold star families him of those whose loved ones made the ultimate sacrifice. here's williams telling us about it on this program in 2018. >> with got memorials for
veterans all over this country in most communities. what do we have anything that pays tribute to those families who sacrificed one of their own? no, we don't. i'd like to see one of these on every home but has somebody serving in our armed forces. i think it would do something for the community. i really do. and then this of course. to say to those people in the community, that family gave more than any of us. >> shannon: he's a true hero. the ceremony was one of williams last wishes. he was 98 years old. that is it for today, i'm shannon bream, i will see her tomorrow and every weeknight for "fox news @ night," 12:00 a.m. eastern, 9:00 pacific, on fox news channel. have a great week, and we will see you next "fox news sunday." ♪ ♪
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